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23:56 slef Hi. Finally figured out how to get back here:-)
23:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #61 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:30 rambutan http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57568443/massive-snowstorm-seen-from-space-in-satellite-photo/
22:59 jcamins We do. :)
22:57 rambutan well, as long as you have plenty of red wine, potato chips and cat food it's the weekend...you can wait out the storm
22:56 rambutan :)
22:55 jcamins It made the igloo very disappointing.
22:55 jcamins And I discovered that I was incredibly claustrophobic.
22:55 jcamins In 1996 we had so much snow in New Jersey that my friend and I excavated an igloo.
22:55 jcamins Yeah, but I admit I'm having some doubts about it being all that.
22:54 rambutan supposed to be a historical snow/ice storm...
22:54 jcamins rambutan: yeah, the snow/ice was pretty dramatic a bit earlier, but so far not too bad.
22:53 rambutan jcamins, doing OK out there?
22:23 magnuse ...and wishes #koha a nice weekend
22:22 * magnuse trusts that jcamins handles both things well
22:16 jcamins Believe it or not, preparing a release of a module for CPAN is actually as confusing as preparing a release of Koha.
22:14 jcamins Mostly because the first version I uploaded turned out to be broken.
22:13 jcamins Two versions of Template::Plugin::MARC in one day!
21:15 oleonard Have a good weekend everyone
21:10 * jcamins delegates. :)
21:10 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
21:10 jcamins @later tell wizzyrea Do you think you could please update the license listed on koha-community.org/about to reflect that Koha is GPLv3+?
21:09 jcamins sweil: if it says GPLv2+, then it definitely needs updating.
21:09 sweil jcamins: Then http://koha-community.org/about/ is misleading.
21:09 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
21:09 jcamins @later tell cait You might want to take a look at http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koha_%28Bibliothekssoftware%29
21:08 sweil There is a new article in the German Wikipedia. Maybe some experts want to review and improve it. See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koha_%28Bibliothekssoftware%29.
21:08 jcamins Version 3.12 will have all the license statements changed.
21:08 jcamins No, the license is GPLv3+.
21:07 sweil English Wikipedia says Koha is GPLv3+. Should this be GPLv2+? (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koha_%28software%29)
21:02 huginn chris_n: The operation succeeded.
21:02 chris_n @later tell slef do you know anything about these people: http://www.ovh.co.uk/ ?
21:01 * chris_n looks around for slef
20:58 oleonard (the Apache config option only. The other aspect works fine)
20:57 oleonard Doesn't work for me, but I don't know if it's me or the patch...
20:45 jcamins oleonard: and restart Apache after changing the configuration file.
20:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7740 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Highlight items in own library in search results/detail page in OPAC
20:43 oleonard khall: Is an edit to koha-httpd.conf the only change required to test that aspect of Bug 7740?
20:33 huginn rangi: Quote #208: "<mtompset> Tonight... I tango with git." (added by jcamins at 03:01 PM, June 28, 2012)
20:33 rangi @quote random
20:33 jcamins New version of Template::Plugin::MARC uploaded.
20:26 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #74: "<owen> chris: Not to mention the cute kid quote AI you've been developing. that takes a lot of cycles" (added by gmcharlt at 01:11 PM, May 18, 2010)
20:26 gmcharlt @quote random
20:16 khall np!
20:15 oleonard Thanks
20:15 khall oleonard, yes, that's exactly what I meant
20:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9011 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add the ability to store the last patron to return an item
20:13 oleonard Bug 9011
20:13 oleonard Sorry :/
20:13 khall oleonard, can you give me the bug number?
20:12 oleonard khall: In your test plan you say "Optionally, you can also verify this works even if patron issuing history has been set to anonymize issues upon return." Do you mean at the patron level via the OPAC?
20:12 rangi or the cataloguing action_log
20:12 Morthland That's what I figured. Let me take a look at that.
20:12 khall yo
20:12 oleonard khall still around?
20:11 bag here's the database - http://schema.koha-community.org/
20:11 bag one sec…
20:11 bag well then I think you'd be more interested in looking at the acquistiondate in the item record
20:10 bag heh
20:10 Morthland I program C, but I am a fish out of water here.
20:10 Morthland Just playing around in the .pl, I was hoping to add a "Catologed after this Date and Time" option
20:09 Morthland Does the item search for the label creator use this? It seems like the items are listed by the exact time they are cataloged.
20:07 bag well there is the timestamp in mysql - so yes
20:00 Morthland Does the database record both the date AND time that a record is cataloged?
19:31 jcamins Oh, and write POD.
19:31 jcamins Now I just have to figure out to add a binary to a CPAN dist.
19:28 jcamins Very cool!
19:28 Dyrcona yw
19:28 jcamins Thanks.
19:28 jcamins I understand now.
19:27 jcamins Ohh.
19:27 Dyrcona jcamins: It also works like this $fh = *DATA; if ($ARGV[0]) {open($fh, $ARGV[0])}; while ($line = <$fh>) {....}
19:26 Dyrcona jcamins: A simple example http://pastebin.com/g7KGHF3n
19:25 jcamins Hm. It looks like maybe the __DATA__ file is only usable for <DATA> not as a filehandle.
19:20 jcamins First rule of debugging: if you're using a system that doesn't have strict variable name checking, CHECK YOUR SPELLING!
19:19 jcamins Dyrcona: that would be great, because the data I am including would arguably be better put in a different file, but I'd prefer not to.
19:18 Dyrcona I'll see if I have a decent example hanging around that I can paste.
19:18 Dyrcona jcamins: __DATA__ is good as a sample file, and not so much for strings.
19:16 jcamins On the other hand, it just caused my head to explode and didn't work, so I'll use a heredoc.
19:15 Dyrcona It's really handy for sample data to test your program.
19:13 Dyrcona for instance: while(<DATA>) { do something with $_ }
19:12 Dyrcona jcamins: You can read the data in your program via the DATA filehandle: *DATA or <DATA>. If using strict, you might need <::DATA>.
19:11 jcamins This sounds about my level of difficulty. :D
19:10 Dyrcona jcamins: Below that you put your data.
19:10 Dyrcona jcamins: At the bottom of your file, you put a line that contains __DATA__
19:09 jcamins SelfLoader?
19:07 jcamins I think that's what I want.
19:07 jcamins Dyrcona: ooh, how do you use an __DATA__ section?
19:06 huginn Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.
19:06 Dyrcona @later tell slef TIMTOWTDI: You could use a heredoc for your string, i.e, <<EOF\n.......\nEOF\n, (I do this all the time), mutililine quoting with qq/....../, or a __DATA__ section. I typically use the last for example or default data when my program can read from a file.
18:56 libsysguy anybody around that I can bribe to take a look at the nginx installer?
18:43 slef damn sure I've used it before
18:42 slef else I'll try to remember tolook
18:42 slef please @later me if you find it
18:42 jcamins So long.
18:42 slef sorry gtg out... I'll ping back in a few hours (maybe 5)
18:42 slef should befiled near those two on the perl man pages though ;)
18:42 slef hmmm
18:42 slef ah but << EOF means the string is in the middle
18:41 jcamins slef: that requires the string to be in the middle of the file.
18:41 slef you could also look into the qq quoting
18:41 slef like bash << EOF and then EOF at the end IIRC
18:37 jcamins Does anyone know what that way is?
18:37 jcamins I have a Perl question for the wisdom of #koha: I want to embed a fairly large string in a Perl script. I believe there is some way to do that which results in the string being at the end of the file.
18:28 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "RDA http://t.co/8MqgOiyd #kohails"
18:16 cait have a nice weekend everyone!
18:15 * cait waves
18:15 bag right Batch sounds good to me too
18:14 jcamins Yeah, I'm loading some files.
18:14 bag I read it as FIELD not FILE :P
18:14 bag whoops I read that wrong
18:14 jcamins bag: The vote on #evergreen was for MARC::Batch, so I'll use that.
18:13 bag jcamins MARC::Field I'd guess first?
18:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4266 major, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Signed Off , encumbrance and expenditure not used in code
18:09 jcamins bug 4266
18:05 jcamins If I want to load a file of MARC records into a list of MARC::Record objects and possibly sort it, do we think I should use MARC::File::* or MARC::Batch?
18:03 jcamins Okay, question for... anyone who might have an opinion.
17:55 jcamins gmcharlt: around?
17:46 libsysguy no excuses :p
17:46 oleonard It's late for paul_p anyway libsysguy
17:45 libsysguy he always bounces out
17:45 libsysguy I think paul_p knows when I am looking for him
17:38 cait1 :)
17:35 khall np, great work!
17:35 oleonard khall++
17:35 oleonard Thanks for the signoffs khall
17:24 cait meh.
17:24 cait hm #koha works, but reading bug mails does not ...
17:22 * khall had IndependantBranches enabled! : )=
17:20 khall odd
17:20 oleonard Works for me khall
17:20 khall even though my db has the default sample patrons
17:19 khall when I try using the letters on members-home.pl I get one results for 'a' and none for anything else
17:19 oleonard Which patron search khall ?
17:18 khall is patron searching messed up in master?
17:17 drojf successfully transferred 200k files. let's do another 500k. my hoster will love me
17:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=813 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , OPAC virtual shelves should store comments
17:13 oleonard rambutan: Re: your thesis, see bug 813
17:10 jcamins Warmer here.
17:10 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.8°C (6:05 PM CET on February 08, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
17:10 jcamins @wunder konstanz
17:09 drojf oh good, then it is not sunday already?!
17:08 * jcamins waves back.
17:08 * cait waves from the train
16:54 mustard Thesis: Koha should provide for space-limited online storage so that patrons can maintain notes about items in the library collection or other things. Notes relating to items should be linkable to those items.
16:42 oleonard It's way too early in the day for me to be trapped in the no-git cloud. Must be the bad weather.
16:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9571 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Fix width for textareas in Edit Item screen
16:37 * oleonard starts a patch fight on bug 9571
16:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9283 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Change structure of export checkouts form
16:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow number of results per page to be selectable for guided reports
16:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9332 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Display call number in "Holds waiting" notice (checkout page)
16:34 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 9283 - Change structure of export checkouts form
16:34 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 9417 - Allow number of results per page to be selectable for guided reports
16:34 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 9332: Display call number in "Holds waiting" notice
16:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1043: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1043/
16:22 jenkins_koha * nengard: add tip about idreambooks having content limits
16:22 jenkins_koha * nengard: add IDreamLibraries section
16:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #279: STILL FAILING in 1 min 9 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/279/
16:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #279 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 9 mo 16 days ago)
16:21 oleonard I love "git stash pop." So handy.
16:13 nengard I'll note that in the manual
16:13 jcamins On their site, not when the data is displayed in Koha.
16:12 jcamins Also some serious encoding errors.
16:12 jcamins Yeah, there are definitely a lot of ISBNs missing from their database.
16:12 nengard and none of them show the ratings
16:12 nengard I have all of them in my catalog
16:12 nengard http://idreambooks.com/newbooks/search?q=picoult
16:11 nengard I'll use that for the manual, but you should know that it's not working on all books
16:11 nengard pants
16:11 nengard it is showing on bossypatns
16:11 nengard hmmm
16:10 jcamins Bah. I missed the bug number in the update message.
16:10 jcamins If you could try downloading the record for Bossypants (ISBN 0316056863) from LC, we can check if it's a problem with the book or a problem with the script.
16:09 reiveune1 bye
16:09 jcamins It works for me with the two tabs.
16:08 nengard I do have 2 tabs for holdings ?. if that matters
16:08 nengard not that it will help
16:08 nengard my demo is a VM so I can't share a link, but can share a video after my webinar
16:08 nengard I was toggling back and forth to try things out
16:08 nengard okay it's on and not showing
16:08 jcamins That would get in the way of it showing up.
16:08 jcamins Hehe.
16:07 nengard i might have turned it off :) hehe
16:07 nengard hang on
16:07 jcamins It might be that they do not have that particular ISBN in their database, though they were supposed to have fixed it so that all related ISBNs were listed as well.
16:07 jcamins Hm.
16:07 nengard I did when I tested it ? like i said
16:07 nengard hmmm
16:07 nengard I'm searching Jodi Picoult in my catalog and theirs and it's in both, but I see nothing in my opac
16:06 nengard [off] no clue ?
16:05 jcamins [off] wtf? How can they not have Harry Potter yet?!?
16:05 nengard I'm going to search their site first
16:05 nengard hmm okay
16:05 jcamins I don't think they have Harry Potter.
16:04 nengard I was looking at harry potter
16:04 jcamins [off] They have not added nearly as much content as they said they were going to, so it's also quite possible that you don't have any books that are in their database.
16:04 nengard no errors popping up - where/how would i check the logs?
16:04 nengard let me look
16:04 nengard hmmm
16:03 jcamins Do you have any script errors?
16:03 jcamins [off] http://kohadev.cpbibliography.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=85532
16:03 nengard might be interaction with other prefs?
16:03 jcamins nengard: it seems to be working for me.
15:54 nengard is there maybe an updatedatabase problem there?
15:53 nengard (i did when i tested it)
15:53 nengard I was going to document this, I have the preferences, but don't see the content when i turn them on
15:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8733 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Adding critic reviews to book pages
15:53 nengard jcamins bug 8733
15:50 oleonard I was directed to look for their link to marketing materials, but couldn't find it because it was covered up by an old guy talking at me
15:49 oleonard Dear Recorded Books: What the hell is with your web site?! (warning, auto-playing audio) http://www.recordedbooks.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=rb.home&library
15:37 oleonard I'm good. Seeing patches get pushed is always a good way to start the day.
15:37 ryansipes oleonard: It's going pretty alright, how are you?
15:36 oleonard How's it going ryansipes?
15:28 jcamins_away \o/
15:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #1043 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9329 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Wrong message for already expired cards
15:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9320 normal, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Pending reserves is showing reserves already waiting
15:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9451 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , borrower_stats.pl gives off warnings and is not Plack-compatible
15:27 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 9329: Wrong message for already expired cards
15:27 jenkins_koha * sophie.meynieux: Bug 9320 Pending reserves report should not show waiting items
15:27 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9451: Quiet warnings and Plackify borrower_stats.pl
15:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1042: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1042/
15:25 nengard thanks :)
15:25 oleonard Congratulations nengard
15:23 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @nengard: "Thank you all for your support, I was one of the People's Choice Awardees on http://t.co/UQNcwbsU http://t.co/M4ge3RD6 #kohails #opensource"
14:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9283' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f481d9259d889f74dd556e17ed6d4aa9a3a7f50a> / Bug 9283 - Change structure of export checkouts form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d68b8357d75cf2808d82a86ff5d6582403e6c51a> / Merge branch 'bug_9417' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f66162592
14:54 jcamins_away That's going to have to wait.
14:54 jcamins_away Yeah...
14:54 kf you might be able to give him some quick hints while I would have to learn all abourt how it works first :)
14:53 kf ....
14:53 kf but since you know how it works... or at least you know most of it
14:53 kf jcamins_away: it's only a guess
14:53 jcamins_away If he reran the creation script, that's bad.
14:53 jcamins_away kf: separate the entries with commas, make the ISO2709 export show up regardless (or add another syspref), and move the CSV profile editor to Administration.
14:52 kf and the any index seems a bit weird to me,?
14:52 kf from the changed comments I think he reran the automatic creation and I am not sure now if that is good or bad
14:52 drojf i guess the question is who to make it better :P
14:52 kf jcamins_away: I wnted to ask you to take a look at the dom patch from martin
14:52 kf I guess the qeustion is how to make it better ;)
14:49 jcamins_away None of these things make the least bit of sense to me.
14:49 jcamins_away Huh?
14:49 jcamins_away If you want to create a CSV profile you have to look under tools?
14:49 jcamins_away Huh?
14:49 jcamins_away You have to fill in either ExportRemoveFields or ExportWithCsvProfile to export as ISO2709?
14:48 jcamins_away Huh?
14:48 jcamins_away so you use vertical pipes to separate entries?
14:48 jcamins_away You're exporting a CSV...
14:48 jcamins_away I am amazed every time I try to edit a CSV profile how unintuitive it is.
14:47 oleonard No, lay it on us jcamins_away
14:45 jcamins_away Have I commented recently on the extreme user unfriendliness of the CSV export?
14:39 oleonard I was up all night!
14:39 jcamins_away oleonard: incidentally, in case you were worrying about finding a javascript editor that supports arbitrary tags, it turns out you can do it with TinyMCE.
14:30 kf hi oleonard :)