Time Nick Message 00:00 drojf good night #koha 00:08 dcook After much poking around in Zebra, could anyone just tell me if it's possible to write a query that retrieves everything from a certain acquisition date to the present? 00:09 dcook I see that Zebra can sort by acqdate, but I don't know what it's actually using... 00:10 dcook As attribute 32 seems to refer to Date-of-acquisition which is MARC 541$d? 00:11 dcook It looks like it uses publication date :S 00:11 dcook At least when you query Zebra 00:11 jcamins dcook: acquisition date and publication date are different. 00:12 dcook I would hope so, but I don't see where the acquisition date is stored in the marc 00:12 jcamins Acquisition date is 952$d. 00:12 dcook Hmm 00:12 jcamins Publication date is... 00:12 jcamins 008. 00:13 dcook Intriguing... 00:13 dcook So publication actually uses 008 and not 260$c? 00:13 dcook That's probably a good thing 00:13 jcamins And, yes, you can search by acquisition date newer than a certain value. 00:13 jcamins pubdate,gt:1234 00:13 jcamins Maybe. 00:13 dcook O_o 00:13 dcook You mean acqdate? 00:14 jcamins Yes, that's what I meant. 00:14 jcamins I'm not sure that actually works. 00:14 jcamins I usually use PQF. 00:14 jcamins PQF works. 00:14 dcook Hmm, I've tried, but I'm getting nothing 00:14 dcook PQF...that uses the Bib1 attributes? 00:15 jcamins @attr 1=Date-of-acquisition @attr 2=4 @attr 4=4 "1234" 00:15 huginn jcamins: downloading the Perl source 00:15 jcamins I believe that will work. 00:15 dcook In the OPAC or just in Yaz? 00:15 jcamins (prefix pqf= 00:16 jcamins In the OPAC you can use pqf=... 00:16 dcook Oooh. :D 00:16 dcook Hmm, get a failure in yaz 00:16 dcook Unsupported Use attribute -- v2 addinfo 'Date-of-acquisition' 00:17 jcamins Hm. 00:17 jcamins Not sure why, and I'm not working on Koha things at the moment. 00:17 dcook No worries 00:18 jcamins You can try @attr 1=32 00:18 dcook Thanks a lot for the pqf prefix insight and that Zebra uses 952$d 00:18 dcook Mmm, good call 00:18 dcook I imagine that'll work, since it works for the sort 00:18 dcook Hmm, maybe not 00:19 dcook Interesting.. 00:19 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 00:20 dcook When I try f @attr 1=32 "2008", it isn't looking at 952$d, it's definitely looking at 008 or 260$c 00:20 dcook But yes, thanks again, jcamins. I really do appreciate the help :) 00:21 jcamins It's probably a different attribute, then. 00:21 jcamins It's the one identified as Date-of-acquisition in bib1.att. 00:22 dcook That's 32 :/ 00:22 dcook Hmmm 00:22 dcook There is also one for 8014, which is an Items Index 00:22 dcook But it's commented out 00:23 dcook It claims that it's handled by 1=32 00:24 jcamins Hm. 00:24 dcook There is an entry for Date-of-acquisition in record.abs next to melm 952$d though 00:26 dcook Hmm.. 00:26 dcook Now I try it using 2012 instead of 2008, and it looks all right... 00:26 jcamins Sounds like you have some bad data in 541$d 00:26 dcook Ahh 00:26 dcook Nope. Just me being an idiot. 00:26 dcook Multiple 952s 00:26 dcook In the 2008 example, most of them said 2012 00:27 dcook But one said 2008 (as did the 008 and 260$c) 00:28 dcook I should put up a post-it that says "check twice, then press enter" 00:29 dcook One last question... 00:29 wahanui it has been said that One last question... is it possible to get a log going all the way back to a specific commit? 00:29 dcook ... 00:29 dcook @attr 1=Date-of-acquisition @attr 2=4 @attr 4=4 "1234"\ 00:29 huginn dcook: I suck 00:30 dcook 4=4 is...year, greater than or equal 00:30 dcook what's the 2=4 for? 00:31 jcamins Greater than or equal 00:31 jcamins 4=4 is year 00:31 dcook O_o 00:59 dcook Ahh...I see now 01:00 dcook How the Bib-1 attributes work that is 01:00 dcook Not sure why 1=32 works when it is used on its own but is an unsupported use attribute when used with other attributes :S 01:00 bag bag? 01:00 wahanui I LIKE BASEBALL 01:00 bag nice! 01:00 dcook lol 01:01 bag only 6 days until pitchers and catchers report for sprint training! 01:01 dcook Is that in California or does everyone head south? 01:02 dcook My sister is a baseball fan in Florida :p 01:02 bag the two spots are Florida and Arizona for spring training 01:02 dcook Mmm, that's what I was thinking 01:02 dcook Who's your team? 01:02 bag The New York Mets 01:03 bag the mets - is supposed to stand for Metropolitans - but if you are a true fan - it really stands for My Entire Team Sucks :P 01:04 dcook Hahaha. I don't follow much myself, but I imagine the Yankees cast a pretty big shadow 01:04 bag yup they do 01:04 dcook Although was there a big upset sometime in the past few years when the Mets beat the Yankees? 01:05 bag yo hankbank 01:05 hankbank yo bg 01:05 bag hankbank: is another one in California 01:06 dcook Ahh, hey hankbank 01:07 dcook Lots of west coast folk 01:07 dcook Well, I suppose I qualify as mid-west. I only lived on the coast for 2 years or so 01:08 * hankbank 'hank bank thinks of himself as a new englander' 01:09 bag yeah I'm a new englander at heart 01:10 bag welcome back edveal 01:10 edveal Hello 01:12 dcook jcamins: the issue was that 4=4 attribute. I'm thinking possibly because the 952$d is yyyy-mm-dd, but...not sure. Anyway, @attr 1=32 (or Date-of-acquisition) @attr 2=4 seems to work like a charm 01:12 dcook jcamins++ 01:12 jcamins Oh, I guess it isn't a year. 01:13 dcook *shrug* I guess not 01:20 dcook As for the ccl.properties, I don't think it actually references the Bib-1 attributes for acqdate or pubdate 01:20 jcamins I don't think so, no. Just Date-of-acquisition and pubdate. 01:21 dcook ? 01:21 jcamins The numeric attributes are unnecessary. 01:21 dcook What I mean is...for title, it says : "Title 1=4 ti Title" 01:21 dcook I figure that means "ti" or "Title" will be sent as 1=4 01:21 bag jcamins are you not RM for 3.14? 01:22 jcamins bag: I devoutly hope not. 01:22 dcook But for Date of acquisition, it says: "Date-of-acquisition 1=Date-of-acquisition / acqdate Date-of-acquisition" 01:22 dcook hehe 01:22 jcamins dcook: that sounds right. 01:23 dcook But shouldn't it say... 01:23 dcook "Date-of-acquisition 1=32 / acqdate Date-of-acquisition" 01:23 bag ahh I thought RM was a 2 release cycle these days 01:23 dcook That would match the pattern of the others. 01:23 jcamins bag: only if the RM runs for two terms. 01:23 bag hmm anyone offer up for 3.14 yet? 01:23 jcamins dcook: it doesn't matter whether the configuration uses the numeric attribute values or Zebra's native attributes. 01:24 jcamins *native labels 01:24 jcamins bag: nope. 01:24 dcook Hmm, touché 01:24 bag whoops 01:24 dcook Well, in theory 01:24 bag hmmm.. has that been brought up? 01:25 jcamins The lack of any other candidates for RM? 01:25 jcamins Nope. 01:27 jcamins I was thinking of sending an e-mail. 01:28 jcamins Unfortunately, I don't see much chance of anyone volunteering. 01:30 dcook Personally, I don't know where you find the time, jcamins 01:30 dcook Even if I had the ability, I wouldn't have the time 01:30 dcook And surely you must be busier than I am 01:33 jcamins dcook: neither do I! 01:40 dcook On the plus side, I've figured out the ccl 01:40 jcamins Yay! 01:41 dcook It looks like "acqdate,ge:" will work 01:41 dcook Although, if I'm not mistaken, the ccl.properties file looks like it might have the BIB1 relations slightly wrong 01:41 dcook At least the one I have misses "gt" and then it screws up the mappings after that 01:42 * dcook checks master 01:42 jcamins I'd believe it. 01:42 jcamins Our CCL configuration is not very usable. 01:42 dcook Agreed. I'm tempted to write up a doco about it now that I have it all up in my head... 01:43 dcook There is no way to search acqdate with the OPAC web form that I saw 01:43 dcook The only way is using ccl, pqf, or whatever else we have through the search bar 01:44 dcook P.S. Thanks again for that pqf prefix tip! 01:44 dcook Yep, incorrect in master too 01:45 * dcook goes off to work and be silent for a bit 01:47 dcook Actually...while I remember...how many versions of Koha 3 will there be before it becomes Koha 4? 01:49 jcamins It'll work better once the search rewrite has gotten in. 01:49 jcamins An indefinite number. 01:49 jcamins When an RM says "I want to call the next version 4.0," it will be 4.0. 01:49 jcamins Or when there is an consensus that that we have reached 4.0. 01:50 dcook Looking forward to the re-write :). What's the progress like on it? 01:50 wajasu i suppose 9325 is resolved and on master. is it in 10.2 or will it be in the next release? 01:50 jcamins Waiting on QA for the first patch. 01:50 dcook Mmm, fair enough. Thanks for the info. 01:50 jcamins bug 9325 01:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9325 critical, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, overdue notices sent same messages for all users. 01:51 jcamins wajasu: yes, we reverted bug 8378. 01:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore 01:51 alohabot Hi mib_tm, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 01:52 mib_tm Howdy y'al. I got a question. 01:53 mib_tm How do I set Advance Notice to work in Koha 3.8? 01:53 wajasu was teh 9352 part of the reverting, throwing out the fines syntax broken fix? and do we still need to fix the fines syntax? 01:54 jcamins Bug 9352 was caused by the patch for 8378. 01:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9352 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Needs Signoff , Zebra indexes useless subfields in UNIMARC 7XX 01:54 jcamins 9325, sorry. 01:54 jcamins mib_tm: turn on EnhancedMessaging. 01:55 wajasu so i guess fines syntax is still broken then. 01:58 jcamins Then enable I guess. 01:58 jcamins Whoops. 01:58 jcamins I guess. 01:58 jcamins mib_tm: then enable the advanced notices message. 02:03 mtj peeps, do i need to turn on some syspref - to get patron images showing ? 02:04 mtj i have sucessfully uploaded an image - and its sitting in the patron_image table, ready to go.... 02:04 jcamins mtj: you have to enable patron images. 02:04 jcamins I think it's PatronImages or PatronCards. 02:05 mtj perfect - thanks jcamins++ 02:09 bag heya mtj 02:09 bag yup system pref 02:13 mtj hey bags - man, i love it when its a pebcak error :p 02:13 dcook Huh...apparently Zebra actually doesn't support all the Bib-1 attributes... 02:14 dcook http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/querymodel-rpn.html#querymodel-bib1-nonuse 02:15 dcook So...no "not equal", "phonetic", or "stem" relations. That's cool...:@ 02:16 jcamins Uh. 02:16 jcamins I didn't realize there was no not-equal. 02:16 jcamins stem and phonetic I knew. 02:17 dcook Is part of the re-write about that as well? 02:17 jcamins No. 02:18 dcook O_o 02:18 jcamins I'm not rewriting Zebra, just the way Koha interfaces with it. 02:19 dcook Right. I was wondering if you were going to try to handle stemming before the query got to Zebra somehow 02:19 jcamins Not unless someone pays for it. 02:19 dcook Like the "Multi-lingual stemming" part of your RFC 02:19 dcook Mmm 02:19 jcamins Right, but that's not funded. 02:20 dcook Mmm 02:20 jcamins And an optional additional feature. 02:22 jcamins Unless that's a feature which you're interested in funding, in which case we can move it up to "part of the search rewrite" status, of course. ;) 02:23 dcook Hehe 02:24 dcook How I wish I had the money to sponsor Koha re-writes 02:25 * jcamins too! 02:26 mib_tm thanks jcamins for the tips. I think I got it now. 02:27 jcamins mib_tm: good! 03:10 mtj another random off-topic Q for the group… 03:10 mtj anyone have any opinions about upgrading either lappys or servers to SSD drives? 03:11 jcamins mtj: I do not, no. 03:11 wajasu looking at the template toolkit templates. 03:11 wajasu those Reerences at the bottom. i guess they get substituted above. 03:12 jcamins wajasu: what? 03:12 bag I've got a SSD lappy 03:12 bag it's been fine so far - althought it's a bit small 03:12 wajasu ./koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/catalogue/detail.tt 03:13 mtj ok, thanks jared - i think i might buy an SSD drive, as they are pretty cheap, for a smaller one 03:13 bag we did some testing on putting mysql on a SSD attached to a server - but didn't notice any better I/O 03:14 jcamins bag: aren't you supposed to not put databases on an SSD because there are too many rewrites? 03:14 bag *testing* 03:14 jcamins Ah. 03:14 jcamins :) 03:14 bag we were trying just to see 03:14 mtj … i might google-about to see which ones to select/avoid 03:15 bag hoping we could find some better I/O - the VM's we are currently using just don't have enough 03:15 wajasu when i look at the bottom of the template, i see enumerated references. i guess those get substituted for the [numbers] up above. 03:16 jcamins wajasu: huh? 03:16 mtj bag - yeah, i was thinking about running my dev xen.vm file from an SSD... 03:16 * wajasu just learning how the template toolkit works. 03:16 jcamins What's "[numbers]" mean? 03:17 wajasu [9] is and example 03:17 bag yeah that should be fine mtj 03:17 jcamins And you see that in the template file? 03:18 bag we were looking for something to handle 2+ million circs 03:18 wajasu i suppose th [9] gets replaced with the References enumeration at the bottom. 03:18 mtj bag, hopefully an SSD will speed-up some git stuff, on big repos 03:19 bag I think it will 03:19 jcamins wajasu: http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/index.html 03:19 bag plus they are so much less noisy 03:19 wajasu i'm looking at koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/catalogue/detail.tt 03:19 libsysguy first they came for my dial up sounds and I said nothing 03:19 jcamins libsysguy: hehe. 03:20 libsysguy then they came for my HDD noise, and I said nothing 03:20 jcamins wajasu: I just looked at the file, and I see nothing like [9] 03:20 bag heh 03:20 jcamins Nor anything that says "References". 03:20 bag heya libsysguy 03:20 wahanui libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck or koha's youngest developer 03:20 libsysguy hey bag 03:22 wajasu wierd detail.tt looks different depending on if I use vi vs less. 03:23 wajasu i was using less 03:23 wajasu maybe my less is interpreting tt stuff. 03:24 wajasu or the pager in my system 03:27 wajasu i am looking at the author By link and its hardcoded with: /cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=au:[% author |url %] so i think we need something here to change that link in case UseAuthsWithTracings syspref is enabled. 03:30 jcamins dcook: are there any instances you can think of where you would want to use greater than/less than for something other than dates? 03:31 dcook Not off the top of my head 03:31 jcamins I couldn't think of any, either. 03:31 dcook Maybe call numbers, although I wonder how well that works 03:32 dcook Maybe local codes of some kind 03:32 dcook Mmm, price 03:32 dcook Although that's unlikely, I would think 03:33 dcook barcode 03:33 dcook I'll stop there, lol. I figure date is the most useful. 03:33 dcook Hmm.. 03:33 dcook Possibly typo in bib1.att... 03:33 jcamins What typo? 03:33 dcook line 263 03:33 dcook llength 03:33 dcook att 9905 03:33 jcamins No, that's right. 03:34 dcook Sweet. I just noticed it out of the corner of my eye 03:34 dcook I've tried some of the examples from http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/searchguide.html 03:34 dcook But I can't get > or < to work, although maybe I'm mis-reading the examples 03:37 jcamins I'm not sure it works. 03:37 jcamins I never tried it. 03:37 dcook Makes me wonder how many frustrated librarians they've been or if it's just not that common 03:38 * jcamins doesn't know why that would be in the manual. 03:38 jcamins Seems pretty wrong. 03:38 dcook My thoughts exactly 03:39 dcook It not working precipitated all my earlier questions/investigations 03:40 dcook How does one edit the manual? 03:40 jcamins You can submit a patch to the kohadocs git repo. 03:40 dcook Mmm, there it is 03:41 dcook It's so seldom that I look at the git from the top level 03:42 dcook So much documentation, so little time 07:02 * magnuse waves 07:10 * cait waves 07:10 magnuse \o/ 07:15 magnuse shame on me for no signoffs in december 07:20 cait december? 07:20 wahanui i heard december was ok .. some years 07:23 magnuse heh 07:23 magnuse cait: just saw some stats from rangi 07:23 cait aah 07:24 cait there is always another month :) 07:25 magnuse yeah 07:26 magnuse well, i'll probably not be able to contribute much this spring, except for during the hackfest 07:26 magnuse i have high hopes of better times ahead, though :-) 07:27 cait ) 07:27 cait :) 07:27 cait I hope that once I have finished my current distance study course I will have more time too 07:27 magnuse yay 07:27 cait there was not a lot of time between the first 2 exam dates this year 07:27 cait so it's quite stressful 07:28 cait but it should be a bit better after that 07:30 magnuse nice 07:31 magnuse bonjour sophie_m 07:31 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:31 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 3.0°C (8:00 AM CET on February 06, 2013). 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Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). 09:10 drojf good morning #koha 09:11 magnuse kia ora drojf 09:11 drojf hei magnuse 09:13 skk i am converting data from excel to marc using marcedit. need to know how to import multiple items with single bibliographic records is there a way in MARCEDIT or koha marc import while importing records match bibliographic record and then only attach item to it 09:13 skk i have 30777 excel data which is imported into marc but wanted to know how can i attach multiple copies to single record while importing data into koha 09:14 drojf add multiple 952 fields 09:14 drojf if i understand you correctly 09:14 skk means 09:14 skk i have a excel sheet where i mapped each column and converted a marc file 09:15 skk i would like to now check whether while importing records into koha is there any way by which i can attach multiple items to single biblio 09:15 drojf are the multiple items part of your data? 09:15 skk yes 09:16 drojf then you need to create a 952 field for each of the items. i don't know how that works in marcedit. 952 is the field koha uses for item data at import level, with info like barcode and call number. what do you do with the itenm data so far? 09:17 skk right i added item details in 952 tag only but wondering how i can attach these single records to a common biblio 09:18 drojf i don't know how marcedit works. in general, the 952 fields for each item need to be added to the record data of the respective record 09:19 drojf if they are seperate in your data, how are they connected? in excel i mean 09:20 skk my excel has title, author, accnumber, call number, branchname, itemtype while converiting excel to marc i mapped each field with marctag 09:22 kf mornign paul_p and drojf++ :) 09:23 paul_p mornign kf ;-) 09:24 drojf morning kf an paul_p 09:34 kf meh 09:34 kf 3.6.10 stopped logging fines 09:34 drojf are you still not on 3.8? 09:34 kf while 3.6.3 still did 09:35 kf no, on 3.6.10, preparing update to 3.10 09:35 drojf oh. i thought you upgraded to 3.8 not too long ago 09:38 kf ah no 09:39 kf i wastoo worried about hourly loans 09:39 kf and the problems we had around that 09:40 drojf ah i see 09:52 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Newsletter Koha Comunautaire de Décembre 2012 et Janvier 2013 http://t.co/AnaRwgve" 10:17 drojf @later tell rangi they have rebuilt koha with indexeddb ;) http://mdn.mozillademos.org/en-US/docs/IndexedDB/Using_IndexedDB$samples/Full_IndexedDB_example?revision=342953 10:17 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded. 12:52 H Hey koha 12:53 H Are there anny search parameters u can use in koha a % or something if you dont know the total word 12:54 jcamins_away H: ? 12:54 jcamins_away H: that is, use a question mark. :) 12:54 H ah 12:54 jcamins_away Or turn on QueryAutoTruncate. 12:55 H what was that last tip ? 12:55 jcamins It's a syspref. 12:56 jcamins QueryAutoTruncate tells Zebra to automatically treat every word as left-anchored. 12:56 H f?sh did not work for fish 12:56 kf aah 12:57 kf wildcards? 12:57 H :) 12:57 H ye 12:57 H ye my english sometimes i know 12:57 * kf looks at jcamins and waits for 'search rewrite' :P 12:57 jcamins kf: no, I'm not fixing that. 12:57 kf oooh 12:57 jcamins Wildcards in the middle of the word do not work. 12:57 H lol oeps i did bring up the wrong subject 12:58 kf H no, not at all :) 12:58 jcamins I'm rewriting search. 12:58 jcamins However, adding wildcard searching is something which would be incredibly expensive with very little benefit. 12:58 kf H: I was not aware that we can do that now and thougth jcamins will know and if it does not work currently, he might know how to make it work :) 12:59 H ok but the ? at the end would work then ill test it sec 13:00 H ah it does not 13:00 jcamins In that case you probably have AutoTruncate turned on already. 13:02 H well i'm happy with the result but its a question we probably gonna aget as we will do a demo for our institution so i asked here 13:13 * Oak_ waves 13:13 kf hi Oak 13:19 oleonard Hi #koha 13:21 kf hi oleonard 13:21 kf :) 13:22 libsysguy oleonard! 13:22 wahanui i think oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! 13:22 libsysguy how is the bootstrap working coming? 13:22 oleonard Going very well. The YUI menu to Bootstrap conversion is a piece of cake 13:22 libsysguy excellent 13:23 libsysguy is the next order of business the underlying element structure? 13:23 libsysguy :p 13:23 oleonard ? 13:24 libsysguy actually I am probably wrong on what I am thinking, but when I first started I was frustrated by the page layout (not that it can't be changed with css etc) 13:24 oleonard What page layout? The Bootstrap grid? 13:25 libsysguy probably YUI 13:25 oleonard Oh I see. Well converting all staff client templates to Bootstrap grids (or even some other grid) is certainly possible, but not a priority for me. 13:26 libsysguy that seems like quit a bit of work for very little return 13:27 jcamins You know what I'd like from Bootstrap? 13:27 oleonard A pony? 13:27 wahanui http://uber.geek.nz/pony.jpg 13:27 jcamins I'd like a keyboard-only cataloging module. 13:27 oleonard I'm sure they're working on that jcamins 13:27 libsysguy they? 13:27 jcamins oleonard: where "they" is libsysguy. :P 13:28 kf jcamins: deleteditems has a timestamp! 13:28 jcamins Yay! 13:28 libsysguy jcamins you're not supposed to tell people that I have secretly been bitching about the cataloging framwork 13:28 jcamins It's not that secret once you share a patch. 13:28 kf jcamins: I think deletedborrowers might have been the one without... 13:28 * kf has to do research 13:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #16 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: STILL FAILING) 13:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #278 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 9 mo 14 days ago) 13:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #16: STILL FAILING in 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/16/ 13:35 jenkins_koha nengard: update transport cost matrix info 13:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #278: STILL FAILING in 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/278/ 13:35 jenkins_koha nengard: update transport cost matrix info 13:37 oleonard Any UNIMARC people around? I'd love for someone to look at Bug 8278 13:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin 13:38 oleonard (speaking of YUI) 13:41 libsysguy can jenkins do deb builds? 13:41 jcamins Jenkins does build the packages, yes. 13:41 jcamins !jenkins start Master_Packages now 13:41 jenkins_koha jcamins did you mean me? Unknown command 'start' 13:41 jenkins_koha Use '!jenkins help' to get help! 13:41 jcamins !jenkins help 13:41 jenkins_koha Available commands: 13:41 jenkins_koha abort <job> - specify which job to abort 13:41 jenkins_koha alias [<alias> [<command>]] - defines a new alias, deletes one or lists all existing aliases 13:41 jenkins_koha botsnack [<snack>] - om nom nom 13:41 jenkins_koha build <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period 13:41 jenkins_koha cb - list jobs which are currently in progress 13:41 jenkins_koha comment <job> <build-#> <comment> - adds a description to a build 13:41 jenkins_koha currentlyBuilding - list jobs which are currently in progress 13:41 jenkins_koha h [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 13:42 jenkins_koha health [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 13:42 jenkins_koha jobs [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 13:42 jenkins_koha q - show the state of the build queue 13:42 jenkins_koha queue - show the state of the build queue 13:42 jenkins_koha s [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 13:42 jenkins_koha schedule <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period 13:42 jenkins_koha status [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 13:42 jenkins_koha testresult [<job>|-v <view>] - show the test results of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 13:42 jenkins_koha userstat <username> - prints information about a Jenkins user 13:42 jcamins !jenkins build Master_Packages now 13:42 jenkins_koha jcamins: job Master_Packages build scheduled now 13:42 libsysguy would there be a way to keep he old packages? 13:42 libsysguy the** 13:42 jcamins It would require another jenkins slave with more disk space, I think. 13:43 jcamins And I'm not sure why you would want to. 13:43 libsysguy don't we just release the most stable package? 13:44 jcamins We release signed packages based on release versions. 13:45 libsysguy oh so there are packages for 3.8.2 3.8.3 etc etc 13:46 jcamins I think right now we have the apt repo set up to remove unreferenced packages. 14:22 oleonard gmcharlt++ # for testing patches 14:23 kf gmcharlt++ 14:41 * oleonard almost ruins his day by forgetting he turned off AllowOnShelfHolds for testing 15:11 oleonard Bug 9529 is a dumb typo bug I introduced, so I would be grateful for a signoff 15:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9529 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Adding a patron shows javascript on screen under login section 15:27 Rob_synd_dev Hello 15:28 oleonard Hi Rob_synd_dev 15:28 Rob_synd_dev I'm a consultant working on the Syndetics project for Bowker. One of our clients is using Koha and not getting some Syndetics images because the EAN field (024 field with ind1=3) in MARC records is not being used when ISBN is present. The EAN can be used in place of the ISBN in a Syndetics image request (such as isbn=9999999999999/lc.jpg). 15:28 Rob_synd_dev What would be involved in getting Koha changed to support using EANs in image request? 15:29 Rob_synd_dev Should be "when NO ISBN is present" 15:29 oleonard Rob_synd_dev: Our bug tracker is here: http://bugs.koha-community.org 15:29 oleonard The first step would be to file a bug with a detailed description of the problem. 15:30 oleonard Rob_synd_dev: Are you guys willing and able to submit a patch, or are you looking for someone else to make the change? 15:32 Rob_synd_dev I'm not familiar with the project. What programming language is it in? I could ask for approval but I was wondering if someone else could make the change. 15:34 oleonard Perl 15:34 oleonard It might be something one of the support companies would be interested in picking up if they have customers who use Syndetics 15:35 oleonard Or of course they could be convinced to do it for hire 15:35 * jcamins doesn't have any clients using Syndetics at the moment. ByWater or Equinox might. 15:35 nengard We do 15:36 nengard but we have plenty of devs in the oven right now ;) so I 15:36 nengard am not volunteering :) 15:36 nengard expecially since I'm not a dev :) 15:36 jcamins nengard: this could be your breakaway opportunity! 15:36 nengard HA 15:36 nengard pleny on my plate thank you 15:40 Rob_synd_dev1 Just got kicked off. So I'll log the lack of Syndetics EAN support as a bug. 15:40 jcamins Rob_synd_dev1: so, to make a long answer short: it sounds like no one will be implementing the changed Syndetics covers retrieval gratis. 15:40 kf logs? 15:40 wahanui logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ 15:41 jcamins (okay, that wasn't actually very long, but I wasn't sure if you had missed the responses) 15:41 Rob_synd_dev1 I see, good to know. Thanks. 15:42 jcamins I/my company -- and a number of other companies/individuals -- will do developments for hire, of course, if you prefer to go that route. 15:42 kf Rob_synd_dev1: it needs someone interested enough to pay for it or do it themselves, you could hire someone or provide a patch 15:42 jcamins And we're always happy to help new developers through the process. 15:42 kf ah right, jcamins can phraseit better :) 15:42 nengard new developers++ :) 15:42 kf but I think having the information on bugzilla on how your api works would be cool - so it would be known that it can be improved 15:42 jcamins We prefer the last option, of course, but recognize that some people don't want to write patches for Koha. 15:43 jcamins (even if we find it inexplicable!:) 15:43 Rob_synd_dev1 OK I'll add it to bugzilla 16:12 gmcharlt oleonard: while testing and signing off on your patch for bug 9529, I came across bug 9556; care to trade testing? 16:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9529 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Adding a patron shows javascript on screen under login section 16:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9556 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Changing patron category does not fully update patron messaging preferences 16:12 oleonard Sure gmcharlt 16:13 gmcharlt thanks 16:24 drojf good evening #koha 16:26 rambutan greetings 16:26 drojf hi rambutan 16:31 devap I need some help -- having trouble with a data migration (and upgrade)… 16:31 devap koha vers: 3.04.02.000 16:31 devap http://library.ochs.org.uk/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=kenneth 16:31 devap koha vers: 3.10.02.000 16:31 devap http://koha.ochs.org.uk/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=kenneth 16:32 jcamins What is the problem, and what have you tried so far? 16:32 jcamins (the first site does not load) 16:32 drojf devap: it is helpful to form a question 16:32 devap I managed to get the new version (3.10.02) running with nginx/uwsgi 16:32 drojf jcamins is always faster 16:32 devap The link to the first site returns results 16:32 devap the second does not 16:33 drojf the link to the first does not do anything 16:33 devap database migrated, ran update script, no errors 16:33 jcamins Did you reindex? 16:33 devap hmmm -- thought so. lemme confirm... 16:33 jcamins And is Zebra running? 16:34 jcamins Most likely the problem is permissions on the Zebra files, if the answer to both those questions is "yes." 16:34 jcamins faq? 16:34 wahanui i think faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ 16:34 jcamins ^^ last question 16:36 devap zebra running = yes 16:36 devap reindexed = ues 16:36 devap I'll check perms 16:36 jcamins What's uwsgi, BTW? 16:36 oleonard Would the logs show permissions errors? 16:37 jcamins oleonard: nope. 16:37 libsysguy http://projects.unbit.it/uwsgi/ jcamins 16:37 jcamins libsysguy: yeah, I just skimmed that. 16:37 jcamins And having skimmed it, I still haven't the faintest idea why I'd want it. 16:37 libsysguy for distributed systems? 16:38 jcamins Sure, I see that in the first sentence. 16:38 libsysguy not really sure why you'd want it for Koha 16:38 kf bye all have a nice evening :) 16:38 jcamins But I also use a database for distributed systems, so I am none the wiser. 16:39 libsysguy perhaps when devap gets back he can enlighten us 16:39 * jcamins hopes so. :) 16:40 devap mainly because I'm already using it for django/python apps, and it is much faster than my previous apache/mod_perl setup 16:40 libsysguy perhaps uWSGI is a fcgi server and devap has elected to use in in place of something like starman? 16:40 devap Since I already had uwsgi running, and had trouble getting starman running... 16:41 libsysguy ah 16:41 jcamins Okay, so uWSGI ~~ Starman. 16:41 jcamins Thanks. 16:41 libsysguy yeah 16:41 libsysguy okay 16:41 devap yes 16:41 libsysguy so what was the root problem again? 16:42 jcamins Okay, in that case we can almost certainly narrow the problem down to Zebra. 16:42 devap But the same (no results) occurs behind apache/mod_perl : http://koha.ochs.org.uk:81/ 16:42 jcamins I'm surprised it worked with mod_perl. 16:42 devap (port 80 = nginx/uwsgi, port 81 = apache2/mod_perl) 16:42 jcamins I mean, I'm surprised that Koha worked at all with mod_perl. 16:42 libsysguy ^^ 16:43 devap problem is no results returned 16:44 libsysguy okay so it definitely sounds like a zebra issue, like jcamins said 16:44 libsysguy and you said you see zebra running in a ps aux? 16:44 jcamins You worked through the final faq? 16:44 libsysguy that too 16:45 drojf that warm, fuzzy feeling when patches that i signed off on yesterday already got qa'ed 16:45 jcamins :) 16:45 jcamins Guess that means I have things to push. 16:45 devap yes - ps -aux shows zebra running 16:46 jcamins Nice! Two Plack patches, ... 16:46 jcamins wait. 16:46 jcamins I haven't received any e-mail from koha-bugs. 16:46 jcamins Or any other list. 16:46 jcamins Has anyone else? 16:46 drojf that's odd 16:46 drojf i have 16:46 * oleonard too 16:46 libsysguy plack patches you say? 16:46 jcamins Passed QA. 16:46 wahanui passed qa is, like, the queue paul should watch 16:47 libsysguy Passed QA? 16:47 wahanui Passed QA is the queue paul should watch 16:47 libsysguy i guess punctuation doesn't matter much 16:47 gmcharlt wahanui: forget Passed QA 16:47 wahanui gmcharlt: I forgot passed qa 16:47 gmcharlt Passed QA is the queue jcamins should watch 16:48 libsysguy wahanui Passed QA is the queue jcamins should watch 16:48 wahanui i already had it that way, libsysguy. 16:48 libsysguy fine then 16:48 libsysguy passed QA? 16:48 wahanui passed QA is the queue jcamins should watch 16:48 devap jcamins -- will go through FAQ to make sure I didn't miss something. 17:03 * jcamins fixes his e-mail problem. 17:03 jcamins My registrar wasn't sending NS records with its responses. 17:04 jcamins I haven't a clue why, but re-entering the MX records fixed it. 17:06 drojf jcamins: windows xp server with kaspersky somewhere on your registrar's side? ;) 17:07 jcamins drojf: lol 17:07 jcamins Actually, that's probably a good explanation. 17:08 jcamins I know my pleasantly interruption-free day had to be a fluke. 17:08 drojf :) 17:26 skk need help on excel to marc data conversion. if excel sheet has multiple same titles while importing data into marc how to attach same items to single biblio 17:28 jcamins skk: you'll need to put each of the items into a 952. 17:28 jcamins migration toolbox? 17:28 wahanui i heard migration toolbox was https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/ 17:28 jcamins ^^ the by_others/csvtomarc.pl script may help with that. 17:32 skk i dont see csvtomarc on abv site and hw to use it 17:32 jcamins skk: it doesn't really come with documentation. 17:33 skk is there any link which will give clue hw to get this done 17:34 drojf have you ditched marcedit? 17:34 jcamins Nothing that I know of. 17:34 jcamins It may be possible with marcedit, too. 17:34 jcamins But I have no idea. 17:34 jcamins I don't use Marcedit. 17:34 jcamins devap: do searches work in the staff client? 17:34 skk i tried marcedit but dont knw hw to join multiple items with one bib record 17:35 drojf how do you get the other fields in there? 17:39 devap jcamins: no 17:39 jcamins devap: did I ask you what version of Koha? 17:39 jcamins Oh, 3.10.2. 17:40 devap yep - 3.10.02.000 17:41 jcamins devap: let's try a search with yaz. 17:42 jcamins devap: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Koha_as_a_Z39.50_server http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Search_Info 17:42 jcamins We're going to log in using the yaz-client command from the second page. 17:43 devap k 17:43 jcamins Actually, you can use the exact commands on the second page. 17:44 jcamins Oh, and, obviously, change the paths to match where your bibliosocket is. :) 17:45 drojf aaaw, patches pushed to master. they grow up so fast 17:46 jcamins Hehe. 18:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9421' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=855fde154cca3f9caa3c8a736a41b4626f4badb3> / Bug 9421: tools/picture-upload.pl not Plack-compatible <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=75703cf6041aa83fe0decb0343856d745aa998d2> / Merge branch 'bug_9432' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe14e6a 18:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #1037 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 18:12 * drojf yawns 18:23 devap jcamins: Connecting...error = System (lower-layer) error: Connection refused 18:23 jcamins devap: okay, Zebra isn't running for real then. 18:23 jcamins Kill it and try restarting it. 18:24 devap 1009 32752 32751 1 13:21 ? 00:00:00 zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/ochs/koha-conf.xml 18:24 jcamins You used packages? 18:24 devap apt-get install koha-common 18:24 jcamins Excellent. 18:24 devap was that a bad thing to do? 18:24 jcamins Nope. 18:25 jcamins Packages are best. 18:25 devap whew 18:25 devap that's what I thot 18:25 jcamins `sudo service koha-common restart` 18:25 devap % (as root) service koha-common restart 18:25 devap * Restarting Koha ILS koha-common 18:25 devap Stopping Zebra server for ochs 18:25 devap Starting Zebra server for ochs 18:25 devap ...done. 18:25 jcamins Looks good. Try again with yaz-client. 18:26 devap Connecting...error = System (lower-layer) error: Connection refused 18:26 jcamins If you still get an error, try sudo -u ochs-koha yaz-client... 18:27 devap % sudo -u ochs-koha yaz-client -c /etc/koha/zebradb/ccl.properties localhost:9999/biblios 18:27 devap Connecting...error = System (lower-layer) error: Connection refused 18:28 jcamins Oh, I see. Instead of the localhost:9999 use unix:/var/run/koha/ochs/zebradb/bibliosocket (check that path) 18:28 devap ps -ef | grep zebra: 18:28 devap 1009 315 1 0 13:22 ? 00:00:00 daemon --name=ochs-koha-zebra --errlog=/var/log/koha/ochs/zebra-error.log --stdout=/var/log/koha/ochs/zebra.log --output=/var/log/koha/ochs/zebra-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=ochs-koha.ochs-koha -- zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/ochs/koha-conf.xml 18:28 devap 1009 316 315 0 13:22 ? 00:00:00 zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/ochs/koha-conf.xml 18:28 devap ah 18:28 devap socket, not port - got it. 18:30 devap ochs-koha@www1:/etc/koha/sites/ochs$ yaz-client -c /etc/koha/zebradb/ccl.properties unix:/var/run/koha/ochs/bibliosocket 18:30 devap Connecting...OK. 18:30 devap Sent initrequest. 18:30 devap Connection accepted by v3 target. 18:30 devap ID : 81 18:30 devap Name : Zebra Information Server/GFS/YAZ 18:30 devap Version: 2.0.54/4.2.50 1d3113509304fb324a0a48a1731a4d88e14fb2d2 18:30 devap Options: search present delSet triggerResourceCtrl scan sort extendedServices namedResultSets 18:30 jcamins You can use paste.koha-community.org. 18:30 devap Elapsed: 0.004546 18:30 devap Z> 18:30 jcamins Now try "base biblios" 18:31 jcamins Then "f smith" (or replace "smith" with a term that will have results) 18:31 devap will use paste -- sorry :-( 18:32 pastebot "devap" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "search results" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/381 18:32 jcamins Okay, it's a Zebra-side issue. 18:33 jcamins `sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v -v ochs` 18:42 devap done 18:42 devap do I need to restart/reconnect the yaz-client? 18:43 devap or restart koha-common ? 18:43 jcamins I'd do both to be on the safe side. 18:43 devap sorry -- I'm a koha-less sysadmin... 18:47 pastebot "devap" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "search results" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/382 18:48 pastebot "devap" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "search results" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/383 18:48 devap on old system I get: 18:48 devap (above) 18:48 devap 17 hits 18:49 jcamins Hrm. 18:50 jcamins Did you get any output from the koha-rebuild-zebra command? 18:50 devap no 18:50 devap wait -- yes I did 18:51 devap one sec... 18:51 jcamins Could you paste that in? 18:51 jcamins (to paste.koha-community.org) 19:06 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails “Did you mean?†in Koha 3.10 http://t.co/amN6B8kT" 19:10 drojf jcamins: could bug 9451 only show up with starman? i think we had something like that before (and i should probably try to use starman some day) 19:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9451 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , borrower_stats.pl gives off warnings and is not Plack-compatible 19:11 jcamins That's possible. 19:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1037: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1037/ 19:13 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9432: Plack changes for acqui/addorderiso2409.pl 19:13 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9421: tools/picture-upload.pl not Plack-compatible 19:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9432 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , acqui/addorderiso2409.pl is not Plack-friendly 19:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9421 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , tools/picture-upload.pl not Plack-compatible 19:22 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "“Did you mean?†in Koha 3.10 http://t.co/3g1KeI56 #kohails" 19:22 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @andisugandi: "Sip! :) RT @kohails: #kohails 「Did you mean?〠in Koha 3.10 http://t.co/JMhZpoFK" 19:23 jcamins I found a bug in my release-tool script. 19:23 drojf [off] sir, i received a message telling me exactly what i have to do to get rid of the message. what do i have to do? 19:23 jcamins This is good, because it explains why I haven't been able to build a package in my regular repo. 19:24 drojf yay 19:25 devap jcamins: Here's the output from the rebuild_zebra: 19:25 pastebot "devap" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "search results" (168 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/384 19:26 jcamins Odd. That looks right. 19:26 devap lemme restart again... 19:29 devap nope -- still 0 hits... 19:29 devap :-( 19:30 jcamins Okay, this is a weird one. 19:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #59 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:36 jcamins Morning, rangi. 19:37 rangi morning 19:37 drojf morning rangi 19:38 drojf don't read the mozilla mail 19:38 rangi hmm? 19:38 jcamins Huh? 19:38 rangi the later you left? 19:38 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @normnz: "Today I want to think about integration between #kohails and @figshare @paul_poulain" 19:38 drojf the one saying dev phones in march :D 19:39 rangi ahhh 19:39 drojf or maybe that is just for berlin 19:40 rangi i dont think i got a mail 19:41 drojf that may be a good thing 19:41 jcamins Right. This is why you don't build packages from a repo with non-git-controlled detritus. 19:42 rangi ah yeah 19:42 rangi git clean -d -f 19:42 jcamins You end up with a bunch of tests failing because they're unit tests for files that don't exist. 19:42 rangi *nod* 19:46 * jcamins gives it another go. 19:51 kohdog Hello, I am looking for help with a simple setting that causes patrons to incur a $5 charge upon each checkout--koha 3.8 on ubuntu 12.04 19:51 cait kohdog: check administration > itemtypes 19:51 jcamins kohdog: if you go to Adminstration->Item types, you should change the fee on each item type to 0. 19:52 cait this time I was faster :) 19:53 kohdog sweet, thanks 19:56 jcamins rangi: any idea how to add a file to the packages? 19:57 jcamins I created etc/searchengine/queryparser.yaml, and the build is exploding. 19:57 rangi koha-common.dirs i think 19:57 rangi cos its not a new file, its a whole new dir 19:58 jcamins Cool, thanks. 19:58 rangi maybe rules too 20:12 jcamins Definitely something in addition to koha-common.dirs, but I can't figure out what to put in rules. 20:12 rangi eythian will know when he is about 20:12 cait fighting with my qa comments? 20:13 jcamins cait: yeah. 20:13 jcamins Actually, I got the tarball all fixed up. 20:13 jcamins rangi: will he be in today? 20:16 rangi yep 20:16 jcamins Yay! 20:16 * jcamins will wait and stop making random changes. 20:17 chris_n random changes? ouch! 20:17 jcamins Not quite random. 20:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #59: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/59/ 20:19 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 9503 Correct name of parameter passed to parcel.pl 20:19 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9503: Followup remove unused parameters passed to parcel.pl 20:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9503 major, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Link from histsearch via invoicenumber results in error 20:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #267 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:21 jcamins Wait... I see. In my attempts to find koha-common.dirs I broke something else. 20:26 jcamins drojf: oh official meeting reminder-er! Apparently we have a meeting tonight? 20:26 rangi yep 20:28 jcamins drojf: good news, someone else took care of it. 20:32 cait in how many hours? 20:32 jcamins Many. 20:32 jcamins 5.5. 20:32 jcamins Too late for you. 20:32 cait or too early.... depends 20:34 drojf i only remind for meetings i remember :) 20:35 drojf and i tend to forget those at that uneuropean time 20:36 jcamins I wouldn't have remembered except bag asked me about adding "Roles for 3.14" to the agenda. 20:36 jcamins I think he has done so. 20:37 rangi that was me 20:37 jcamins Oh, you did. 20:37 jcamins Well, as long as someone did. 20:37 jcamins :) 20:37 rambutan huggin: meeting? 20:37 wahanui well, meeting is at 6, so I need to leave in about two and a half hours. 20:38 jcamins lol 20:38 rambutan well, ok then 20:38 jcamins rambutan: 9pm EST. 20:38 jcamins 8pm your time, maybe? 20:38 rambutan yep 20:39 cait wow early 20:39 cait for the roles 20:39 jcamins cait: not really. We're half-way through the cycle already. 20:39 cait oh right 20:40 bag maybe discuss and then vote next meeting? 20:40 cait time runs so fast 20:40 eythian hi 20:40 jcamins bag: yeah, definitely no vote this meeting. 20:40 bag or sometimes soo soo slow :P 20:40 cait can't remember it being slow... in a loooong looong time 20:40 jcamins We'd need to have had proposals that were publicly discussed. 20:40 cait maybe I can't remember being it slow at all *scratches her head* 20:40 jcamins Okay, now I have a problem... queryparser.yaml isn't getting installed by the tarball either. 20:40 cait maybe even give it 2 meetings? 20:40 jcamins What happened to it? 20:41 eythian jcamins: koha-common.dirs should sort it out for you 20:41 jcamins eythian: except that I broke it and now it's not installed by the tarball either. 20:41 eythian jcamins: oh, actually, koha-common.install 20:41 eythian yeah, that won't help any :) 20:43 jcamins Wait... 20:43 jcamins I'm just building a package from the master branch over and over and over and... 20:44 jcamins Let's try this again. 20:50 * cait crosses fingers 20:50 * chris_n successfully concludes a multi-hour bad syntax hunt by adding a missing hyphen... :-P 20:51 jcamins chris_n: ditto, actually. 20:52 jcamins Okay... this doesn't quite work. 20:53 * jcamins will have to think about it a bit. 20:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #267: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/267/ 20:56 jenkins_koha * mirko: Bug 9201 OAI-PMH mapping value cannot be 0 20:56 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 9509 - batchMod.pl does not ensure each barcode is unique 20:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9201 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Stable , OAI-PMH mapping value cannot be 0 20:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9509 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , batchMod.pl does not ensure each barcode is unique 20:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #60 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:26 drojf you know you are doing weird things when every search result you get is from stackoverflow 21:31 cait heh 21:32 * wizzyrea desperately tries to remember what it was she was working on two days ago 21:33 * wizzyrea worries she killed that brain cell 21:33 cait it will be fine 21:34 cait :) 21:34 cait you got more than enough left 21:36 wizzyrea hehe 21:37 * cait is not so sure about herself :) 21:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #60: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/60/ 21:37 jenkins_koha * mirko: Bug 9201 OAI-PMH mapping value cannot be 0 21:37 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 9509 - batchMod.pl does not ensure each barcode is unique 21:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9201 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Stable , OAI-PMH mapping value cannot be 0 21:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9509 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , batchMod.pl does not ensure each barcode is unique 21:45 * magnuse wishes #koha a good meeting and wanders off to bed 21:53 cjh magnuse: thanks for the reminder :) 22:29 datadoctor just stumbled upon a weird bug after updating from v3.5 to v3.10 related to the insecure system preference 22:29 datadoctor http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9562 22:29 huginn 04Bug 9562: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , System preference 'insecure' shows wrong value after update to v3.10 22:29 datadoctor I 22:29 jcamins Yeah, I'm just reading that. 22:30 jcamins I'm not sure how the value "no" could have gotten in there. 22:30 datadoctor Wow - that must be some legacy data. 22:30 jcamins Oh, darn. 22:31 dcook Morning/evening #koha 22:31 datadoctor Probably most folks won't encounter that. We always get weird stuff because we were early adopters. 22:31 jcamins My gpg-agent appears to have committed sepuku. 22:31 jcamins Apologies for the spelling. 22:32 datadoctor How's your day going jcamins? 22:32 datadoctor I'm about ready to call it quits. 22:32 jcamins datadoctor: actually, my morning was great. 22:32 jcamins My e-mail was down and I didn't notice. 22:33 jcamins So I got five good hours of work in before I noticed and got the problem resolved. 22:33 datadoctor That's funny! Seems quiet when no one is sending you messages. 22:33 datadoctor very productive! 22:33 jcamins Yeah, I liked it! 22:33 jcamins Then I fixed it and had a backlog of stuff to deal with a mile wide. 22:34 datadoctor We started patron self-checkout today. It's a big hit! 22:35 wizzyrea cool, with koha or a special machine? 22:35 datadoctor With Koha. I'll try to post a screen shot. 22:36 dcook hey gaetan_B 22:36 wahanui gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons 22:36 gaetan_B hi dcook :) 22:37 wizzyrea hi gaetan :) 22:37 * wizzyrea appreciates gaetan_B's work every time she logs into koha now. 22:37 gaetan_B :) 22:37 jcamins Okay... I'm making progress, but why is the file called .dpkg-new? 22:38 dcook New start page as in the new intranet one? 22:38 rangi yep 22:39 dcook gaetan_B++ 22:39 dcook I was so happy to switch to that new page :D 22:40 dcook I think everyone I encounter who has upgraded has celebrated it! 22:40 jcamins I only know of one person who disliked it. 22:41 jcamins Well, one institution. 22:41 datadoctor http://screencast.com/t/nEQvURjSYLu8 22:41 jcamins datadoctor: nice! 22:43 datadoctor And page 2: http://screencast.com/t/hen2Truadx 22:44 wizzyrea pretty :) 22:44 rangi i think we should change it slightly each major version 22:44 rangi colours maybe 22:44 jcamins rangi: smart! 22:44 rangi :) 22:45 wizzyrea "oh, you're using koha BLOOD RED. That one's broken." 22:45 jcamins lol 22:45 drojf lol 22:45 rangi heh 22:45 dcook hehe 22:45 rangi drojf: http://www.unlok.ca/wayward/ <-- totally html5 22:45 dcook Looks great, datadoctor 22:46 datadoctor Sorry to cross-talk. I'm heading out the door. Good luck with your work jcamins, dcook, rangi, wizzyrea and gaetan_B ! 22:46 jcamins Bye. 22:46 rangi datadoctor: it does look good! 22:46 wizzyrea later :) 22:46 dcook Cheers 22:47 rangi thats committer 201 22:47 rangi for anyone who didnt know 22:47 wizzyrea :D 22:47 rangi doh 22:48 drojf rangi: does not work for me 22:50 dcook Works just fine over here, rangi, drojf. I'll have to play later... 22:50 drojf rangi: i've been playing a little with canvas. not sure yet if that is going to be the next ingress or a koha map feature or nothing :D 22:50 jcamins eythian: help! I just broke the packages. 22:51 rangi drojf: 22:51 rangi :) 22:51 rangi hmm im hitting return a lot by accident today 22:51 jcamins All the configuration files have ".dpkg-new" appended to them. 22:52 drojf i think my browser is too secure for this web. the mozilla marketplace did not work because of the adblock popup blocker btw. i did not know that thing is still on when you deactivate adblock :/ 22:52 eythian jcamins: how did you do that? 22:52 eythian also, all of them? 22:52 eythian like, everything under /etc/koha? 22:53 pastebot "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "like this" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/385 22:53 jcamins Yup. 22:53 jcamins All of them. 22:53 jcamins Maybe because I still have the line in koha-common.dirs? 22:54 eythian I don't think you need the one in .dirs if you're going to be putting files there anyway 22:54 jcamins Okay. 22:54 jcamins We'll try that. 22:54 eythian it's just to define directories that are OK to be empty I think. 22:54 jcamins Ohhh. 22:54 jcamins That makes sense. :) 22:54 drojf dcook: it just loads for me, even in safe mode 22:55 eythian also, you don't need the etc/koha after the ...koha/searchengine line 22:55 jcamins Okay. 22:55 * jcamins waits for this build to fail spectacularly. 23:01 dcook Do you use Ghostery, drojf? 23:02 drojf dcook: no. i use requestpolicy, but all was ok. it's a security error in the code that firefox does not like 23:02 drojf [23:59:16.869] SecurityError: The operation is insecure. @ http://www.unlok.ca/wayward/js/game.js?v=1:20 23:03 drojf dcook: what browser did you try? 23:03 dcook drojf: I used Chrome, but I just tried with Firefox 14.0.1 and it worked fine 23:03 dcook Took longer to load though 23:03 drojf i tried ff nightly and 20 23:04 drojf i'll try iceweasel 10 or what debian ships with 23:05 dcook Always a bit worrisome when something doesn't work in a specific browser though :/ 23:06 drojf i get the same error in iceweasel 23:08 dcook Is this useful? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=781447 23:08 huginn 04Bug 781447: was not found. 23:08 dcook Hmm, by comparison, 9000-some bugs doesn't seem so bad... 23:08 jcamins Hehe. 23:10 jcamins Oh, I think I might know what the problem is. 23:12 jcamins debian/rules 23:12 wahanui debian/rules is failing. It's not a test. That's the actual build process. 23:12 drojf dcook: it was indeed that very problem 23:12 jcamins I will keep you updated. 23:17 drojf wow that is annoying. and weird. i have used localstorage with that setting and did not have any problems 23:18 dcook Still having problems, drojf? 23:19 drojf dcook: i'd like to keep my setting tobe asked about cookies if enabled. i can play the game if i turn that off 23:19 dcook Mmm, I thought that was the situation. No way to add any exceptions in FF? 23:21 drojf it does not want to set a cookie. i dont think i can do anything about localstorage, besides disable it in about:config 23:21 drojf anyway, i'll go to bed. have a nice meeting everyone 23:23 drojf dcook: it actually works with a cookie exception for http://www.unlok.ca. that makes even less sense since localstorage is no cookies, but ok ;) 23:23 drojf g'night 23:28 dcook Mmm, I forgot about the meeting. That's in 2.5 hours? 23:29 cjh dcook: yes :) 23:29 cjh (unless my time conversion was off) 23:30 dcook That's what my conversion said as well, but I wanted to make sure. Thanks, cjh! 23:30 jcamins Yes. 23:34 gaetan_B good night #koha 23:44 jcamins No, I can't figure it out. 23:53 jcamins The Debian maintainer's guide may have all the information a person needs to deal with a package, but it sure doesn't troubleshooting easy. 23:59 jcamins eythian: why did we decide to just delete the solr configuration files rather than installing them?