Time  Nick           Message
00:09 Dyrcona        rangi: Do you still use the PGP key with ID: 0x4BE030B3 ?
01:17 mmm45          I just installed koha 3.10.0 from the tarball and I am not very sure how to manage that installation with git Is there a command that will tie it to git?
01:18 mmm45          sorry, 3.10.01
01:18 wizzyrea       did you do a dev install?
01:19 wizzyrea       and I mean, when you ran ./configure, did you specify dev?
01:19 wizzyrea       because it will ask you
01:19 mmm45          no, i did not
01:19 mmm45          i've followed the upgrade instructions
01:20 mmm45          in the install.debian
01:20 mmm45          i upgraded from 3.09 to 3.10.1
01:20 wizzyrea       did you specify dev when you installed your 3.09?
01:22 mmm45          not sure. it was already installed when i took over the job
01:22 wizzyrea       Ahh
01:23 wizzyrea       well
01:23 wizzyrea       is your running code in /usr/share or is it in, say /home/<user>
01:23 wizzyrea       that is to say, do you have something like a kohaclone in your koha user's home directory/
01:23 wizzyrea       ?
01:24 mmm45          it is home user
01:24 wizzyrea       ok so you already have a dev install it sounds like
01:24 mmm45          and in the previous version it is kohaclone
01:24 mmm45          koha-dev
01:24 wizzyrea       so basicallky
01:24 mmm45          yes
01:24 wizzyrea       you should have both
01:24 wizzyrea       a kohaclone, and a koha-dev
01:24 wizzyrea       where are you from?
01:24 mmm45          yes
01:24 mmm45          i have both
01:25 wizzyrea       so if you go into your kohaclone
01:25 wizzyrea       and you ls -lah
01:25 wizzyrea       do you see a .git directory?
01:25 mmm45          there is a .git
01:25 mmm45          yes
01:26 mmm45          i see it
01:26 wizzyrea       ok so
01:26 wizzyrea       you are already running from git.
01:26 wizzyrea       so if you wanted to update that
01:26 wizzyrea       assuming you really want to
01:26 wizzyrea       you can do a
01:26 mmm45          the upgrade installed into a separate folder from kohaclone
01:26 mmm45          the new folder is koha-3.10.01
01:26 wizzyrea       hm, you could be in a mess then.
01:27 mmm45          i took a snapshop so i can revert
01:27 mmm45          if i need to
01:27 wizzyrea       well probably what you want to do
01:27 wizzyrea       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
01:27 mmm45          do you have a suggestion on how to do the upgrade differently?
01:28 wizzyrea       is have a look here
01:28 wizzyrea       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Update_your_git_install_of_Koha
01:28 wizzyrea       specifically this
01:28 wizzyrea       and forget about using the tarball to update
01:29 wizzyrea       since you already have a repository
01:29 wizzyrea       that you are presumably using
01:29 eythian        @wunder nzwn
01:29 huginn         eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 26.0°C (2:00 PM NZDT on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
01:29 wizzyrea       26!
01:29 mmm45          yes, we are using the repository
01:29 wizzyrea       repository = kohaclone, in this case
01:30 wizzyrea       basically, go into your kohaclone,
01:30 wizzyrea       git fetch && git rebase origin/master
01:30 wizzyrea       probably first git checkout master
01:30 wizzyrea       then fetch & rebase
01:30 mmm45          i'll try that
01:30 mmm45          thank you so much
01:31 wizzyrea       ah yea, you're welcome :)
01:31 wizzyrea       good luck, pop back if you get stuck.
01:32 wizzyrea       you may want to fall back to your snapshot, just because
01:32 mmm45          i sure will :-)
01:32 wizzyrea       who knows what ways it got broken when you tried to upgrade
01:34 rangi          Dyrcona: I do, whats up?
01:37 Dyrcona        rangi: Just wanted to ask before sending an email.
01:37 rangi          ah sweet :)
02:04 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @IrmaLibraries: "Looking forward 2 this pres. + think how libraries could increase connections with FOSS communities  #lca2013 #kohails https://t.co/BG1VHQHE"
02:46 * libsysguy    whistles while he exports the LoC catalog
02:48 * wizzyrea     expects the US Attorney General will be at your door soon.
02:51 libsysguy      hehe
02:52 cjh            heh
02:52 libsysguy      actually I need to select all the records first
02:52 libsysguy      then export
02:52 * libsysguy    needs a wildcard
03:03 wizzyrea       @later tell oleonard boy those bootstrap buttons sure are pretty <3
03:03 huginn         wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
03:10 libsysguy      wizzyrea I think it would be cool to include your less files in koha and then have them compiled for you
03:10 libsysguy      npm++
03:12 libsysguy      my god…what have we done http://instacode.linology.info/
03:13 wizzyrea       ermmm
03:15 libsysguy      yeah...
03:30 mmm45          i have just upgraded to 3.10.1 but i am having an issue with the yui for staff/intranet showing up correctly
03:30 mmm45          any suggestions?
03:30 wahanui        any suggestions are welcome.
03:43 mmm45          can anyone help me with this yui issue?
03:43 mmm45          thank you so much
04:01 bag            oh just got my domain registration notice scamm of the day!
04:34 Oak            kia ora #koha
04:56 libsysguy      @list wahanui
04:56 huginn         libsysguy: Error: 'wahanui' is not a valid plugin.
04:56 libsysguy      @wahanui list
04:56 huginn         libsysguy: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
04:56 libsysguy      @huginn info
04:56 huginn         libsysguy: I've exhausted my database of quotes
04:58 libsysguy      heh awesome nick qu-bit
04:59 libsysguy      and the icing on the cake is schredngr
05:34 mtj            libsysguy, yep , its a goody :)
05:46 mtj            a random question… does anyone know if their is a tool to do the opposite of this -> ./misc/batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl
05:47 mtj            ie: build/sync values in the marcxml field, from say the items.* table…?
05:47 mtj            ive been using a simple script, to do that stuff
05:48 mtj            is there a better tool?
05:49 mtj            hmmm. would be a handy thing for dev-ing, testing and general koha admin
05:58 mtj            s/their/there/ ^^ :)
07:05 cait           mtj++ :)
07:11 * magnuse      waves
07:14 cait           magnuse: I just had to rerun theh makefile thing 3 times because i always forgot to change to nb and normarc ;)
07:15 magnuse        moahaha ;-)
07:15 cait           hm
07:15 cait           it failed
07:15 cait           the make
07:15 cait           Error:  Unknown MySQL server host '__DB_HOST__' (2) at /home/katrin/kohacloneN/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Context.pm line 803.
07:16 cait           #   Failed test 'use C4::XSLT;'
07:16 cait           #   at t/00-load.t line 30.
07:16 cait           #     Tried to use 'C4::XSLT'.
07:16 magnuse        is that the normarc analytics thing?
07:17 cait           I don't know
07:17 cait           I am triyng to test jared's query parser
07:17 magnuse        ah, ok
07:17 cait           and I thought I would combine it with setting up another installation
07:17 cait           for normarc
07:17 cait           so I can test your things easier
07:17 magnuse        wow, cool
07:17 cait           but... I can't
07:19 cait           I thnk I know what it is
07:20 cait           bug 8924
07:20 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8924 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Some modules erroneously skipped by 00-load
07:22 magnuse        "Unknown MySQL server host '__DB_HOST__'" sounds weird, though
07:22 cait           it tries to load modules
07:22 cait           but there is no database yet
07:23 cait           so it fails, I think
07:23 magnuse        i have seen some placeholders like that in my koha-conf.xml, but i havn't had the time to investigate
07:23 cait           hm
07:23 cait           I will try another run with marc21
07:24 cait           never mind
07:24 wahanui        Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
07:25 cait           it's me being not awake yet
07:26 cait           magnuse: cross fingers :)
07:26 cait           oh
07:26 cait           fail again :(
07:27 magnuse        :-(
07:27 cait           http://paste.koha-community.org/374
07:27 magnuse        same error?
07:27 cait           bah
07:27 cait           never mind
07:27 wahanui        Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
07:27 cait           now that I pasted it it's easier to read - I will check the database
07:29 magnuse        the database error looks weird among the module-related ones
07:29 cait           yep
07:29 cait           ah that looks better
07:29 cait           probably permission on the database was wrong
07:29 cait           sorry to have bothered you
07:34 magnuse        np!
07:40 cait           ok, the make install worked, all good
07:40 cait           only the conf file still has not what i was looking for
07:41 cait           jcamins_away will figure it out when he is back :)
07:41 cait           bbl :)
07:45 reiveune       hello
07:45 alex_a         bonjour
07:45 magnuse        kia ora!
08:02 mtj            … anyone wanna signoff on this bootstrap patch 9420 ?
08:02 mtj            bug 9420
08:02 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9420 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Work on Bootstrap for Koha
08:03 mtj            then i could QA it today :p
08:04 gaetan_B       hello
08:11 jajm           hello
08:19 kf             good morning #koha :)
08:44 drojf          good morning #okoha
08:44 drojf          #koha even
09:02 kf             moring drojf and paul_p
09:04 kf             @later tell rangi there is a problem with the dashboard - could you take a look?
09:04 huginn         kf: The operation succeeded.
09:05 drojf          kf: did you call me boring? ;9
09:05 drojf          ;)
09:05 kf             drojf: huh?
09:08 drojf          ah no you said 'moring' :P
11:23 gerundio       what's up with #koha today
11:23 gerundio       just a lot of quits and joins
11:25 mtj            yeah, oftc is just bouncy today, is all
11:27 magnuse`       hey, bouncing is fun!
12:06 * kf           bounces
12:19 tcohen         good morning #Koha
12:20 kf             hi tcohen
12:20 * kf           hands tcohen the duct tape
12:21 * kf           hands drojf some too
12:23 tcohen         hi kf
12:28 drojf          kf: thanks, i'm good. just drove to work
12:34 drojf          @wunder berlin, germany
12:34 huginn         drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 11.1°C (1:13 PM CET on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
12:34 drojf          spring fever! if only the rain would stop
12:34 kf             no rain here :)
12:34 kf             @wunder Konstanz
12:34 tcohen         my colleages hate me today, i'm with a flu and at work...
12:34 huginn         kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.3°C (1:30 PM CET on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
12:34 drojf          nice!
12:34 tcohen         i shouldnt have left home today :-(
12:36 kf             oh? :(
12:36 kf             oh the flu
12:36 kf             yes, you shoudl have stayed home.
12:38 drojf          this looks pretty cool. http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/01/what-twitter-really-looks-like/272583/#.UQh-24A7idw.twitter unfortunately the actual website seems to be down
12:41 kf             hm seems to work for me :)
12:46 drojf          oh. hm
12:46 drojf          weird
12:46 drojf          ah now it does for me too
12:48 gerundio       1st access returned 404 to me too
12:48 gerundio       now it works
12:48 gerundio       cool project, even though I'm not a Twitter user
13:04 druthb         @wunder 66046
13:04 huginn         druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -2.3°C (6:59 AM CST on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1006 hPa (Rising).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon CST Thursday... 
13:04 druthb         @wunder bodo, norway
13:04 huginn         druthb: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (1:50 PM CET on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 28.80 in 975 hPa (Steady).
13:04 tcohen         @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:04 huginn         tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 20.0°C (8:00 AM ART on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
13:04 druthb         Thought so.  Dangit.
13:04 * druthb       is jealous again
13:05 drojf          woah, we got heavy rain from one minute to the other
13:06 magnuse        druthb: you should move north of the arctic circle ;-)
13:06 druthb         Either there, or Cordoba.
13:07 magnuse        yeah...
13:07 drojf          when is artikohacon?
13:07 kf             sun here now :D
13:07 druthb         @wunder konstanz
13:07 huginn         druthb: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 12.0°C (2:00 PM CET on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
13:07 druthb         puh.
13:08 druthb         we had 20-21C here just *three days ago*.  Tonight, nearly 3cm of snow overnight, it's -2, and gonna get colder ALL DAY.
13:08 druthb         Tonight's low should be down around -12C
13:09 magnuse        drojf: as soon as there are enough koha libraries in norway :-)
13:09 drojf          magnuse: i claim greenland :)
13:09 magnuse        fine by me!
13:09 drojf          only have to find a library there ;)
13:10 drojf          maybe a raspberry koha in some east greenlandic bygd with 5 people :D
13:10 magnuse        yay!
13:10 drojf          and east greenlandic translation of course
13:11 * druthb       wants to become the sysadmin for the library on one of the lil atolls in the pacific or something.  Maybe Kwajalein...
13:11 * magnuse      wonders about the state of libraries and library automation in greenland
13:12 magnuse        looks like lib-web-cats only knows about places in the us called greenland...
13:12 drojf          magnuse: i have seen the university library. i don't know of any others
13:12 druthb         magnuse, isn't Svalbard part of Norway?
13:12 magnuse        druthb: um, sort of
13:13 druthb         @wunder longyearbyen
13:13 huginn         druthb: Error: No such location could be found.
13:13 druthb         tsk
13:14 drojf          [off] http://www.katak.gl/sites/UNIW/pub/search.html
13:15 magnuse        druthb: "The Svalbard Treaty of 1920 established full Norwegian sovereignty over the archipelago. The islands are, unlike the Norwegian Antarctic Territory, a part of the Kingdom of Norway and not a dependency. The treaty came into effect in 1925, following the Svalbard Act. All forty signatory countries of the treaty have the right to conduct commercial activities on the archipelago without discrimination, although all activity is subject to
13:15 magnuse        Norwegian legislation."
13:15 druthb         61,022 square kilometers, with less than 3000 people in it.
13:15 magnuse        hehe
13:15 magnuse        nice and spacey
13:15 magnuse        but of course, those people are huddled together in a few places
13:16 druthb         Most are in Longyearbyen, apparently.
13:16 magnuse        yup
13:16 magnuse        "The administrative center is Longyearbyen. Other settlements include the active Russian mining community of Barentsburg; the abandoned Russian mining settlement of Pyramiden (originally founded by the Swedish); the research community of Ny-Ã…lesund; and the Swedish mining outpost of Sveagruva."
13:16 magnuse        quotes from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard :-)
13:17 druthb         ...and cold.  Very, very cold.  January averages -16 to -12C.
13:17 magnuse        yeah
13:17 magnuse        and months and months of no sun
13:18 magnuse        (and equivalent amounts of midnight sun in the summer, of course)
13:18 drojf          -16 to -12 is not "very cold" :P
13:18 druthb         uhm.  yes.  it is.
13:19 druthb         Too cold for this girl, even if I do have many layers of body fat to keep me warm, like polar animals do.
13:20 magnuse        http://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Svalbard/Longyearbyen/statistics.html
13:20 magnuse        hottest day of 2012 was +13C :-)
13:21 drojf          cozy :D
13:21 oleonard       @wunder 45701
13:21 huginn         oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 19.4°C (7:51 AM EST on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Falling).  Wind Advisory in effect from 1 am to 10 am EST Thursday... 
13:21 druthb         That couple of weeks in July and August might be nice.  The rest of the year, I'm outa there.
13:21 oleonard       We're still in the warm part druthb, but your cold weather should arrive later today
13:21 magnuse        you'll probably find places inland in mainland norway that are colder than longyearbyen
13:21 magnuse        like http://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Finnmark/Kautokeino/Kautokeino~298383/statistics.html
13:21 drojf          what is the wind advised? how to blow?
13:22 oleonard       One is advised that the wind blows.
13:22 drojf          oh. that sounds less fun
13:22 druthb         It's headed your way, oleonard.  We were at 70F three days ago, 29F now, and temps will fall all day, low tonight of 9F.  Batten down the hatches, this one's a killer.
13:23 oleonard       *sigh*
13:23 oleonard       I can hear the wind gusting out side right now in fact
13:23 drojf          so "parental advisory: explicit lyrics" means that my parents curse? english is a strange language ;)
13:24 kf             oleonard++ again :)
13:25 kf             for your work on bootstrap this time
13:31 H              Hey Koha
13:31 kf             hi H
13:31 kf             someone with a shorter nick than me
13:32 kf             :)
13:32 H              are we vissible outside http://koha-pr.inbosnet.be/ annyone want to test
13:32 H              ;)
13:32 oleonard       Not to me H
13:32 H              dam
13:32 H              thx
13:33 kf             not to me either
13:34 magnuse        server not found
13:34 wahanui1       it has been said that server not found is a different error to what you described before
13:36 drojf          InBosnet.be Whois Record This domain name is not registered
13:36 drojf          typo?
13:37 drojf          H ^^
13:37 H              ill ask our administrator
13:37 H              thx for testing
13:39 drojf          H: is that the correct name of your institution's web domain?
13:40 H              well its a name used here it works inside but i got sure what the pollicy is
13:40 tcohen         is there anyone with 3.10 deployments in production? is it ready?
13:43 magnuse        i'm blocked by bug 9256, otherwise i would have upgraded my customers i think
13:43 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21
13:44 kf             tcohen: we are starting testing - ask again in a few weeks ? :)
13:45 tcohen         thanks kf, i'm about to update 3.8 now and wanted to know if 3.10 was worth
13:51 kf             tcohen: we are updating from 3.6... so ...
13:51 kf             hm
13:51 kf             I wonder
13:52 kf             does someoen know what happens if you return/issue books on the self check?
13:52 kf             it looks to me like a checkout slip email is generated, but it seems to be empty
13:52 kf             the list of books is missing
14:05 WaylonR        hiya all, okay, Ive finished a authentication rules system draft, where any combination of virtualhost/ip address (proxy ip or actual ip)/referer (partial match or only full match) would result in a user logging in... or not, there might be a higher priority disallow rule set. now, mandumah.com has a geoip ban set in place.. if a secure (by ip only) rule isn't met, and its from a banned country, they get a banned response, not even a chance to enter in a p
14:05 WaylonR        assword. Where would i put a banned country list? in a system preference?
14:05 WaylonR        storing it in its own table im thinking, overkill.
14:06 * magnuse      would probably try a syspref first
14:08 WaylonR        its a opac only ban, ill put it in opac section?
14:09 magnuse        sounds plausible
14:16 libsysguy      indeed
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14:19 kf             tweetbot going insane?
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14:19 kf             btw - does that table look a bit off to someone else too?
14:19 kf             http://koha-community.org/get-involved/
14:19 kf             oooh
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14:19 kf             oh right, I shoudl look at the master line... never mind
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14:23 oleonard       Oi tweetbot` cut it out
14:29 kf             are those retweets or is he really going crazy?
14:29 oleonard       I think he's going crazy
14:30 WaylonR        magnuse, this query look right to you? "select b.userid, bar.virtualhost, startip, endip, referer, priority from borrower_authrules bar left join borrowers b on b.borrowernumber = bar.borrowernumber left join borrower_attributes ba on b.borrowernumber=ba.borrowernumber where (bar.virtualhost = ? or bar.virtualhost = "*") and (inet_aton(startip) <= inet_aton(?) or startip = "*")  and (inet_aton(endip) >= inet_aton(?) or endip = "*") and (referer = ? or (ref
14:30 WaylonR        erer like concat(?,'%') and partial = 1) or referer = "*") and b.userid is not null and b.checkauthrules = 1 order by priority desc limit 1"
14:30 WaylonR        it works well, at least.
14:31 WaylonR        doh, i forgot the action field in the fields to return.
14:31 magnuse        WaylonR: that query makes my head spin :-)
14:32 tcohen         is it ok to write "Pre-3.12 users" in english?
14:33 oleonard       It makes sense to me tcohen (though of course I know what "3.12" means)
14:36 tcohen         thanks oleonard
14:36 tcohen         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Background_indexing_with_Zebra
14:48 mtj            eep, full disk on my linode ^^
14:49 mtj            well, full disk caused by a crazy supybot log.file :/
14:50 mtj            … which then caused the tweetbot to freak out
14:50 mtj            i really must fix that
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15:31 gmcharlt       @quote random
15:31 huginn         gmcharlt: Quote #178: "jcamins: IIS kills kittens" (added by wizzyrea at 05:20 PM, January 10, 2012)
16:02 reiveune1      bye
16:05 oleonard       Interesting... Found the first instance where a Bootstrap widget doesn't work without an HTML5 doctype
16:05 oleonard       Split button/menu isn't sized correctly with an XHTML doctype for some reason.
16:25 kf             oleonard: thankfully it passed qa today? :)
16:25 kf             the doctype - I think mason qa'd it?
16:25 oleonard       mtj++ # :)
16:25 kf             yep :)
16:25 kf             ok, going home - cya all later :)
16:37 oleonard       This channel is all comings and goings today
16:45 oleonard       Bootstrap toolbar on the biblio detail page: http://screencast.com/t/q7ZzCWhDRoG0
16:46 oleonard       The "place hold" icon isn't quite right. I'm still figuring out the constraints of the Bootstrap sprite
16:48 oleonard       With split button/menu: http://screencast.com/t/uxzxOh3lRD
17:15 nengard        at some point the title of the 3.10 manual was changed to 3.12 (my fault) - how do I find out in git when that happened?
17:16 Dyrcona        nengard: git blame filename will tell you who changed it and when.
17:16 nengard        it's all one file though
17:16 nengard        and i am the one who did it - i just have to know when i did it :)
17:17 Dyrcona        git blame goes line by line.
17:17 nengard        so do i just put the filename in? or the string i want to find as well?
17:17 oleonard       git blame <filename>
17:21 jwagner        git blame -L 123 <filename> for e.g. line 123
17:27 H              Well if i'm not wrong again we should be visible for the world http://koha.inbo.be/
17:31 tcohen         anyone from biblibre? are there any news on the solr indexer being integrated into koha?
17:32 jcamins_away   tcohen: it's already there.
17:32 tcohen         is it on master?
17:32 jcamins_away   Yes.
17:33 * jcamins_away does not consider it usable, however.
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17:36 tcohen         jcamins_away, is anyone working on writing Koha::SearchEngine::Zebra::Index ?
17:38 jcamins_away   No.
17:39 jcamins_away   Oh, Zebra.
17:39 jcamins_away   Yes.
17:39 jcamins_away   Me. :)
17:40 jcamins_away   My first step is to refactor C4::Search, then I'll move the code from C4::Search to Koha::SearchEngine.
17:40 Dyrcona        jcamins_away: Is that refactoring related to your interest in Evergreen's QueryParser?
17:40 jcamins_away   Yeah.
17:41 jcamins_away   A patch introducing QP to C4::Search is making its way into Koha.
17:41 Dyrcona        Cool.
17:41 jcamins_away   With QP, we're able to get rid of a lot of the really nasty code.
17:45 nengard        thanks jwagner the line thing helped
17:45 nengard        so now the question is - how do i see the commit?
17:45 nengard        972508a3 en/manual.xml        (Nicole C. Engard 2013-01-28 15:25:42 -0500     7)
17:45 nengard        befe4bf2 en/manual.xml        (Nicole C. Engard 2012-07-14 20:04:17 -0400     8)
17:46 nengard        Looks like it ws the 28th - and something is VERY wrong with the 3.10 manual branch
17:46 nengard        http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/manual3.10.x
17:46 nengard        You can see that there are duplicate commits - i think my master commits were going to 3.10 as well
17:46 nengard        which is no good - don't know where i screwed up
17:46 nengard        but I certainly did screw up
17:47 jcamins_away   git show befe4bf2
17:47 jcamins_away   Or whatever.
17:55 nengard        alright i'm not sure i know how to fix what i did ? which is not good
17:55 nengard        looks like when i reverted a commit is broke things ? which makes no sense
17:56 nengard        is there a way to get the 3.10 manual branch back to how it was before i created the new master (3.12) branch? and then do some cherry picking from master to 3.10?
17:58 nengard        http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=blobdiff;f=en/manual.xml;h=317182068ff490da8d5ab88adbcea677349fe763;hp=64d70c45d60cafc13c0ae792918e6b0a60ebc335;hb=972508a38e44f797bf0293a5678e5813a2e42b61;hpb=65b04168f4553476de96694273a5d99592480e02
18:01 Dyrcona        nengard: You could just revert the offending commit. Depends on the community's policy about reverting.
18:01 nengard        i make the policy for the manual
18:02 nengard        but the offending patch is a revert ?
18:02 Dyrcona        Well, there you go. :)
18:02 nengard        so i'd be reverting a revert
18:02 nengard        which would make things bad as well
18:02 nengard        see what i'm saying?
18:02 nengard        i accidentally pushed the 3.8 manual to the 3.10 branch so i was reverting that, but when i did that it somehow made it like the 3.12 branch
18:03 Dyrcona        Well, you could get a series of patches back to the offending commit.
18:03 Dyrcona        git help patch to find out how.
18:04 Dyrcona        Then, you could git reset --hard <commit hash just before the change>
18:04 Dyrcona        Then, apply the patches you stored earlier.
18:04 Dyrcona        It would require the ability to force push to the remote repository in order to rewrite history like that.
18:05 nengard        okay
18:05 nengard        i'll see what i can do
18:05 nengard        thanks for trying to help with this
18:05 nengard        !!
18:05 Dyrcona        git help diff might also be useful. you'd want git diff to make the patches, I think.
18:23 nengard        Dyrcona when you say '<commit hash just before the change>'  do you mean the last commit i want kept?
18:24 Dyrcona        nengard: Yes.
18:24 nengard        k
18:24 nengard        ? fingers crossed
18:25 nengard        i lost the url for the #koha pastebin ?
18:26 nengard        i have a message i want to share - what's the url?
18:27 cait           pastebin?
18:27 wahanui        pastebin is probably at http://paste.koha-community.org/
18:28 nengard        thansk
18:28 pastebot       "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Dyrcona this is what i get when i try to push the changes" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/375
18:30 Dyrcona        Yeah, you'd need to force the push. Easiest way to do that is like so: git push origin +manual3.10.x:manual3.10.x
18:30 nengard        okey dokey
18:30 Dyrcona        That still might fail depending on what you're allowed to do.
18:32 nengard        Dyrcona++
18:32 nengard        You're the bestest :)
18:32 nengard        It worked and I think everything is okay
18:32 nengard        we'll know for sure tomorrow
18:32 nengard        http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/manual3.10.x
18:35 jenkins_koha   Starting build #13 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: STILL FAILING)
18:35 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #13: STILL FAILING in 22 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/13/
18:35 jenkins_koha   * nengard: add IDs to authorized values
18:35 nengard        okay i need FOOD now :)
18:35 jenkins_koha   * nengard: update data implementation checklist
19:35 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Adding Page Breaks to Printable Notices in Koha http://t.co/CS6ainJR #kohails"
19:41 nengard        I have a question about the paid for notation on the item record.
19:41 nengard        If you see here: http://screencast.com/t/AKOcYNiPBy3n it says that it was paid for by a patron on the 24th of Sept.
19:41 nengard        Then if you look at the patron's record http://screencast.com/t/UzKqgaPayou see that they did make a payment related to that item, but it wasn't a payment for the lost item - it was a processing fee. I'm wondering what makes this note appear in the first place?
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19:51 melia          gmcharlt around?
20:01 gmcharlt       melia: howdy
20:01 melia          hi Galen! I reported a new and strange DOM bug: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9511
20:01 huginn         04Bug 9511: major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , DOM indexing problem
20:02 gmcharlt       melia: ok, I'll take a look
20:02 melia          thank you!
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20:32 wizzyrea       wow, the twitterbot went a bit mad
21:27 JoeLib001      Hello Again, Everyone. :-)
21:28 wizzyrea       hi :)
21:28 JoeLib001      How would I check, if I am using unimarc or marc21 for my records?
21:29 cjh            JoeLib001: in your koha admin preferences there is a syspref called 'marcflavour' that will have this setting.
21:30 JoeLib001      Thanks. :-)
21:30 cjh            you're welcome :)
21:32 JoeLib001      I have been researching the problem I am having and wanted to see, if that might be the problem.
21:32 JoeLib001      Mine is set to marc21, so I think that wouldn't be a problem.
21:34 JoeLib001      I am geting &lt, &gt, etc when I am importing my Koha records into a different system.
21:34 JoeLib001      instead of the characters < and >.
21:35 wizzyrea       how are you exporting the records?
21:35 JoeLib001      When I export the record using the export data tool it exports fine.
21:36 JoeLib001      When I do a Z39.50 search of my koha data it returns the odd characters.
21:36 JoeLib001      I.E. I connect to my Koha DB using Z39.50.
21:36 JoeLib001      I confirmed that it wasn't just the one record either.
21:37 cjh            hmm &lt and &gt are the html escapes or < and > than, hmmm.
21:37 wizzyrea       oh you've been here before :)
21:37 wizzyrea       i sort of remember this problem.
21:37 JoeLib001      Yep. ;-)
21:38 JoeLib001      Was last week, but I was out for the week at that point and didn't pick it up until today. ;-)
21:38 wizzyrea       so, if you connect to it from yaz-client
21:38 wizzyrea       and look at the records you are exporting, are they right?
21:39 JoeLib001      I haven't used the yaz-client before.
21:40 wizzyrea       it's a command line tool - one sec let me get the syntax for connecting to your local db...
21:42 JoeLib001      I got that much. I can't figure out how to do a search though.
21:42 JoeLib001      I just did a search for yaz-client koha. ;-)
21:43 wizzyrea       yay
21:43 JoeLib001      yaz-client -c /etc/koha/zebradb/ccl.properties localhost:9999/biblios
21:43 cjh            \o/
21:43 JoeLib001      Now, how do I do a search?
21:43 JoeLib001      Hehe
21:43 wizzyrea       try "help"
21:43 JoeLib001      That looks a lot more complicated. ;-)
21:44 wizzyrea       i think it's something like
21:44 wizzyrea       f search term
21:44 JoeLib001      I did find linux
21:44 JoeLib001      then show
21:44 cjh            find query
21:45 JoeLib001      Gave me &lt, &lt, etc in the results.
21:46 wizzyrea       well that's pretty definitive evidence that it's zebra that's doing it, if koha shows them correctly in the interface
21:46 JoeLib001      Like this: 500    $a Published: Seattle, Wash. : Specialized Systems Consultants, &lt;1997- &gt;
21:46 eythian        I assume that the MARC records in the database don't have it?
21:47 JoeLib001      It shows up like that in the marcxml section, but isn't that how you would store the characters in xml?
21:47 eythian        yeah
21:48 eythian        I'm not sure which bit zebra uses
21:48 * wizzyrea     idly wonders if you index with -x or not
21:48 wizzyrea       not sure it would matter, but it might
21:48 JoeLib001      ?
21:48 wizzyrea       zebra isn't really my area of expertise.
21:48 JoeLib001      Not sure how I index it. ;-)
21:49 JoeLib001      I would have to look again. :-)
21:49 JoeLib001      I am using the pacakges, so however it's setup there.
21:49 eythian        packages are -x by default
21:49 wizzyrea       there you have it
21:49 JoeLib001      Would that be problematic?
21:50 eythian        shouldn't be, but you never know.
21:50 JoeLib001      So, if I re-index without the -x it should fix it?
21:50 wizzyrea       really though, if it *is* problematic, that would be the only way to know
21:50 JoeLib001      Assuming that is a problem. :-)
21:50 eythian        not going to promise that :)
21:50 wizzyrea       and that would be a zebra bug.
21:51 JoeLib001      What does the -x do? Index it in XML?
21:51 eythian        yeah
21:54 JoeLib001      Hmm..., probably should test it on my test server. ;-)
21:54 JoeLib001      Virtualbox is awesome. :-)
22:04 JoeLib001      Yeah...., it's bad to forget the password for root. ;-)
22:20 JoeLib001      Woot. ;-) I got it. :-) Well, my password anyways...
22:56 dcook          Allo allo #koha
22:58 wizzyrea       hiyas
22:58 dcook          Not too many of us up at this hour I guess ;)
22:59 wizzyrea       it's noon here :)
23:00 wizzyrea       though the way I slept last night, it's surprising that I'm still up.
23:01 dcook          Are you over in Wellington?
23:01 dcook          I know what you mean...
23:01 dcook          Went to bed around 1, woken up at 2, back to bed around 3
23:17 dcook          Per chance does anyone know how one might transform a Marc object with embedded item data back into raw Marc?
23:27 gmcharlt       dcook: in Perl, my $raw_marc_record = $marc->as_usmarc();
23:28 dcook          Hmm, that's what I was thinking. Thanks, gmcharlt :)
23:30 dcook          I kept trying "as_usmarc($marc)". Thanks for that proper syntax. Looks great
23:30 dcook          The more I use OOP, the more I like it
23:31 dcook          Quick question unrelated, gmcharlt. You're active in the perl4lib circles, right? Was that pre-Koha or post-Koha involvement?
23:32 gmcharlt       dcook: I become in involved in both about the same time
23:35 dcook          Sweet. Was that when you joined Equinox? (I'm only Google-stalking you a bit atm ;) )
23:35 gmcharlt       heh
23:35 gmcharlt       no, before Equinox I worked for LibLime, which started my involvement in Koha
23:35 dcook          I just finished my MLIS and have been a systems librarian for the past year, so I'm always curious about other library technology folk
23:35 dcook          Especially in regards to Koha
23:36 dcook          Ahhh
23:36 dcook          So is your background in CS, LIS, or both?
23:36 * dcook        promises to end the 20 questions soon :p
23:36 gmcharlt       :)
23:37 gmcharlt       both, though I suppose another way of looking at it is that I'm a math major who's student job at university ended up leading directly to my career
23:38 dcook          Intriguing! When I decided to get my master's 10 years ago, I never expected to meet so many math majors working in libraries as I have now ;)
23:39 dcook          I suppose that's a large part of how I wound up here too. I started working in libraries 6 years ago, and just found technical services to be utterly fascinating. I remember listening to the systems folk talking about writing Perl scripts, and I thought, "I want to do that!"
23:39 gmcharlt       yeah, it can get surprisingly addictive
23:42 dcook          You're telling me. If I didn't care about the work-life balance, I think I'd spend most of my time learning new things and working on Koha