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23:59 wizzyrea to quote Takei
23:59 wizzyrea oh my
23:58 cjh awesome find
23:57 eythian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Star_Trek_into_Darkness#Requested_move <-- that's a huge argument over 'i' vs. 'I'.
23:33 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @andisugandi: "#catat RT @kohails: #kohails Change in Library of Congress Z39.50 Target http://t.co/WcX73kjY"
22:46 wahanui Library of Venezuela says they have 9 million in their collection
22:46 wizzyrea largest koha collection?
22:45 wizzyrea largest koha collection is <reply> Library of Venezuela says they have 9 million in their collection
22:44 libsysguy ah yes
22:44 wizzyrea full of bees.
22:44 rangi lib of venezuala say they have 9 million
22:44 wahanui okay, eythian.
22:44 eythian wahanui: search.pm is also full of bees.
22:44 wizzyrea LOTS AND LOTS
22:44 wahanui ...but search.pm is complicated and has been the source of much contention in the wake of KohaCon with BibLibre rewriting it for Solr/Lucene instead of Zebra support....
22:44 eythian wahanui: search.pm is full of bees.
22:43 libsysguy rangi didn't you have a number for the largest Koha collection
22:36 libsysguy thanks slef
22:29 wahanui OK, slef.
22:29 slef wahanui: the release date for 3.12 is may 22 afaik
21:56 libsysguy thanks rangi and wizzyrea
21:49 libsysguy ah okay
21:49 rangi so it's now may 22 afaik
21:49 rangi would have been april 22, but 3.10 slipped
21:49 libsysguy hrm
21:48 wizzyrea hm no.
21:48 wahanui string freeze is, like, 24:00 8th October
21:48 wizzyrea string freeze?
21:48 libsysguy dang I was hoping the bot would have an answer
21:47 libsysguy what is the release date for 3.12?
21:41 wizzyrea was quiet this morning... it's quiet now.
21:41 wizzyrea wow it's still really quiet
20:51 nengard wow - um ? I did not do all of that today
20:51 jenkins_koha * nengard: update data implementation checklist
20:51 jenkins_koha * nengard: add IDs to authorized values
20:51 jenkins_koha * nengard: Revert "update data implementation checklist"
20:51 jenkins_koha * nengard: update data implementation checklist
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: add open library to implementation checklist
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: add OpacSeparateHoldings to opac chapter
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: add OpacSeparateHoldings & OpacSeparateHoldingsBranch
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: add RefundLostItemFeeOnReturn preference
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update loc z target
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update Authorities Browser cron
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: add missing SeparateHoldings & SeparateHoldingsBranch image
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: add SeparateHoldings & SeparateHoldingsBranch prefs
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update batch anonymize tool
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update checkout notice
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update self check with new receipt option
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: add NotesBlacklist preference
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: add alphabet preference
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update OPACBaseURL to provide more detail
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update execute reports permission
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: link to search indexes chart
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update cms appendix
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update accountlines faq
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: add 952$u to item guide
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update patron categories admin
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: add patron self editing section
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update note about required email for registration
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: add opac self registration section
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update opac section with patron details edits
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update self registration crons
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update OPACPatronDetails with tip about self reg prefs
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update OPACPatronDetails with new features
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: add new self registration system preferences
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update master to 3.12
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20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update data implementation checklist
20:50 nengard thanks eythian
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: add IDs to authorized values
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20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: update data implementation checklist
20:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: add IDs to authorized values
20:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #20: SUCCESS in 24 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/20/
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20:48 eythian you can force it to push by putting a '+' in front of 'origin', however it's best to only do that if you know for sure that's what you want to do, not just to make the error message go away.
20:47 eythian Basically the error is saying that there's a commit upstream that you don't have here, and so pushing your branch would stomp that.
20:46 eythian in that case, the reset will leave your local branch looking exactly the same as the upstream branch.
20:45 nengard i didn't need my local history
20:45 eythian If you don't want to lose local history, you merge.
20:45 eythian if you can safely lose local history, reset your branch to match origin (git reset --hard origin/manual3.10.x), if you remove --hard it's safer as it'll leave your changes uncommtted.
20:45 nengard and it worked
20:45 nengard and pushed
20:44 nengard and then I did the cherry-pick
20:44 nengard git pull origin manual3.10.x
20:44 nengard so
20:44 nengard but had to do a pull with the branch info
20:44 nengard I actually did a pull
20:44 nengard bingo got it
20:43 wizzyrea there is probably a more elegant way out of it, but I don't know it
20:43 wizzyrea yea, then just do that :)
20:42 nengard not comment
20:42 nengard commit
20:42 nengard so I'll still have the comment
20:41 nengard I won't lose anything by doing it - cause the comment was to master and I was just cherry-picking it
20:41 wizzyrea that is the nuclear, but ultimately probably effective, option.
20:41 nengard I might have had to wipe the branch and pull fresh
20:41 nengard I've had this problem before - where i broke things
20:41 wizzyrea but I don't remember how I got out of it.
20:41 nengard Yeah - fetch and rebase didn't do it either
20:40 wizzyrea gah this problem sounds familiar to me.
20:40 wizzyrea but I think, since you are technically upstream, you don't want to pull down, only push up.
20:40 wizzyrea if it were me, I'd probably git fetch && git rebase origin, because I often get in trouble with git pull.
20:40 nengard nope that didn't do it
20:39 nengard well let's see :)
20:38 nengard hmmm
20:38 wizzyrea I'm not sure
20:38 wizzyrea but whether pull is the best way to do that...
20:38 wizzyrea hm, I'm still new to pushing - I think that implies that you'd need to pull down the upstream to update your references
20:37 nengard 'Note about fast-forwards' section of 'git push --help' for details.
20:37 nengard Merge the remote changes (e.g. 'git pull') before pushing again. See the
20:37 nengard To prevent you from losing history, non-fast-forward updates were rejected
20:37 nengard error: failed to push some refs to 'gitmaster@git.koha-community.org:kohadocs.git'
20:37 nengard ! [rejected] manual3.10.x -> manual3.10.x (non-fast-forward)
20:37 nengard what does this mean?
20:37 nengard wizzyrea - alright i might need more help
20:35 jenkins_koha * nengard: Revert "update data implementation checklist"
20:35 jenkins_koha * nengard: update data implementation checklist
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20:31 * wizzyrea is lazy
20:30 wahanui faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/
20:30 wizzyrea faq?
20:30 wizzyrea ah
20:28 nengard anyway - I think I reverted it all, but still checking
20:28 nengard and then screwed up the 3.10
20:28 nengard sorry - was doing the manual (as you see) and accidentally made changes to the 3.8 manual that were meant for the 3.12 manual
20:27 wizzyrea oh crap?
20:27 nengard um ?
20:27 nengard I see what I did wrong
20:27 nengard OH CRAP
20:26 nengard i think that might have worked
20:26 drojf hi cait :)
20:25 wizzyrea ?
20:25 wizzyrea git reset --hard HEAD^
20:24 nengard both didn't work
20:24 nengard and tried to check the file out again
20:24 nengard I tried git am --abort
20:24 nengard git question ? if I don't want to resolve conflict and want to back out of a commit how do i do that?
20:24 cait evening drojf :)
20:20 jenkins_koha * nengard: add open library to implementation checklist
20:20 jenkins_koha * nengard: add OpacSeparateHoldings to opac chapter
20:20 jenkins_koha * nengard: add OpacSeparateHoldings & OpacSeparateHoldingsBranch
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20:20 jenkins_koha nengard: add open library to implementation checklist
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20:12 drojf i like how the firefox os app tutorial uses javascript that firebug sees as a security problem :D
20:05 jenkins_koha nengard: add RefundLostItemFeeOnReturn preference
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20:02 wizzyrea later :)
20:02 * oleonard will take his answer off the air. See ya later #koha
20:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add callnumber column to the cart
20:02 oleonard Someone else please chime in on Bug 9456 since we have opposing views there. I think it's nonsensical to sort a column which contains aggregated data.
20:00 * wizzyrea will have to look
20:00 oleonard I'm happy to incorporate changes if you have them
19:59 wizzyrea but yours is better ^.^
19:59 * wizzyrea did something similar.
19:59 wizzyrea I like what you did with the bootstrap stuff.
19:59 wizzyrea oleonard++ :D
19:58 oleonard Yeah, weird.
19:58 wizzyrea that's pretty good
19:58 wizzyrea 10 in ohio in january!
19:55 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 10.6°C (2:31 PM EST on January 28, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
19:55 oleonard @wunder 45701
19:55 cait slight difference in temperature :)
19:55 huginn kathryn: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (8:00 AM NZDT on January 29, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
19:55 kathryn @wunder wellington, nz
19:54 kathryn ha!
19:54 huginn kathryn: I've exhausted my database of quotes
19:54 kathryn @wubder wellington, nz
19:54 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.1°C (8:50 PM CET on January 28, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
19:54 cait @wunder Konstanz
19:54 cait :)
19:53 kathryn AND morning wizzyrea and greetings all!
19:53 kathryn haha hi cait :)
19:53 wizzyrea good morning :)
19:53 cait hi kathryn :)
19:53 wizzyrea let's try that again
19:53 cait hi wizzyrea :)
19:53 Guest5944 good morning
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18:58 magnuse oh well, i can always do it in a script
18:56 magnuse or koha-list, perhaps?
18:55 magnuse but is there a way to combine it with koha-foreach to get the count for each instance?
18:54 magnuse hm, i can do this: echo "select count(*) from items" | koha-mysql myinstance
18:35 cait heh
18:34 * druthb whistles innocently.
18:33 huginn druthb: The operation succeeded. Quote #232 added.
18:33 druthb @quote add <cait> oh... i miss myshkin <cait> I mean jared.. of course
18:32 druthb LOL
18:31 cait I mean jared.. of course
18:31 cait oh... i miss myshkin
18:31 cait morning rangi :)
18:23 wahanui Morning is, like, a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast
18:23 rangi Morning
18:07 druthb sure. :
17:57 tcohen i'll fw it to those in charge of that
17:57 tcohen druthb, could you email me with a list of things to backup?
17:55 tcohen is there a DB?
17:55 tcohen ok, that's just files, right?
17:51 druthb the big thing to back up will be /var/www/Pootle and its' subdirs.
17:51 tcohen i've done it
17:51 druthb okay. Yeah, I don't think that's the problem. I see that you need to update grub...When would you like to do that?
17:51 tcohen (files, DB, etc)
17:51 tcohen AND you need to tell me what to add to our backup workflow
17:51 tcohen if there's anything u think our sysadmins run there and interfere with your work just let me know
17:49 druthb Not struggling, exactly; I *know* what's doing it, just haven't figured out the best way to *stop* it.
17:49 tcohen do u think is related to the sysadmins running something there?
17:49 tcohen on the translate server
17:49 tcohen bgkriegel told me you're struggling with some permission issues
17:49 druthb sort of. on the phone.
17:48 tcohen druthb, r u there?
16:59 nengard oleonard++
16:57 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Change fines link in sidebar" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/370
16:55 gerundio so in the homebranch field setting the default as the only branchcode works
16:55 gerundio oleonard, FYI, setting the default value on a hidden field accomplish that behaviour
16:53 kf bye all :)
16:51 oleonard It doesn't do well if the correct link is *not* on the page
16:50 nengard hmmm
16:50 oleonard Not sure why though
16:50 oleonard nengard: It's not that it has a problem with the suggestions page, it's that it causes a js error which happens to break the suggestions page among many
16:44 nengard it makes no sense to me
16:44 nengard broke the suggestions page
16:44 nengard $(#menu a:contains('Fines')).attr('href',$(#menu a:contains('Fines')).attr('href').replace('boraccount.pl','pay.pl'));
16:44 nengard actually the reason i asked for your help was cause this line of jquery did the same thing:
16:44 gerundio oleonard++ thanks for all the help with the homebranch subfield on the items
16:44 gerundio oleonard, user_permissions wasn't for me, right? :)
16:44 nengard i removed it and all was well
16:44 nengard without that jquery that page works
16:44 nengard yes :)
16:43 oleonard Are you sure it's my fault nengard? :)
16:38 nengard oleonard - your jquery does horrible things to the suggestions page ? http://screencast.com/t/Wv9DHD2VMx why would that happen?
16:37 gaetan_B ah alright got it oleonard ;)
16:32 oleonard gerundio: Otherwise you look at the individual borrower record to see what flags are set
16:30 oleonard gerundio: I believe user_permissions is only used for "sub-permissions" as they appear on member-flags.pl
16:28 gerundio I'll explore that option oleonard :)
16:27 oleonard gerundio: So you could set it to default to your one branch code
16:27 oleonard gerundio: It looks like you can hide the field but set a default value. That is probably what you were thinking would happen in your case.
16:27 gaetan_B which is puzzling
16:26 gaetan_B i have one user who is superlibrarian, and user_permissions is empty
16:26 gaetan_B can anyone tell me in which table permissions are stored ?
16:25 gerundio even more because the branch name shows up correctly
16:25 oleonard I think it is to be expected that a hidden field does not transmit any information with it
16:25 gerundio with only one branch set and the subfield set to hidden the value should be properly set
16:25 gerundio but from the usability point of view, I'd say this is not an expected behaviour
16:24 gerundio since there's only one option in the select the librarians won't be able to change it anyways
16:24 gerundio I have no problem setting hidden = 0
16:23 gerundio have no idea :|
16:21 oleonard I wonder if you can have a hidden field with a default value...
16:20 gerundio and the value is now correctly filled in for the only option (branch)
16:20 gerundio the input was replaced with a select
16:20 gerundio that fixed it
16:18 gerundio I'll change it to see what happens on the edit form anyways
16:18 oleonard Wait, I see why you would have set it--because you have only one branch.
16:18 oleonard So it probably shouldn't be.
16:17 gerundio yes
16:12 oleonard gerundio: In your MARC framework is 995b defined as hidden from the MARC editor?
16:11 reiveune bye
16:10 gerundio btw, this is UNIMARC and the homebranch column is mapped to field 995b
16:09 gerundio in the meantime, can yout just simulate an item edit on one of your installation and check if that hidden input has a value set?
16:08 gerundio I'll debug this form to try to see what might be originating this behaviour
16:07 gerundio but like I said, in the source code I see that the input has no value set
16:07 gerundio in the div I see the correct branch name
16:06 oleonard Is the correct branch preselected in the item edit form?
16:06 gerundio that might explain why it's not editable?
16:06 gerundio in my case we only have one branch
16:06 oleonard gerundio: homebranch should be editable unless you have some rules which prevent it
16:06 gerundio but the value of that input is not set
16:05 gerundio looking into the source code I see a hidden input
16:04 gerundio it being shown inside a div as non editable
16:04 gerundio oleonard, I see it in the item edit form
15:59 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @YvesTomic: "#koha #kohails Préparation désormais de la recherche avancée pour la recherche dans les exemplaires..."
15:58 oleonard Usually it would be added along with the item
15:57 gerundio how is the homebranch value populated in the items table?
15:57 gerundio isn't returning any results since the homebranch column in the items table is NULL for some items
15:57 gerundio the SQL query: SELECT bi.*, i.*, b.*,br.* FROM items AS i, biblioitems AS bi ,biblio AS b, branches AS br WHERE itemnumber=? AND i.biblioitemnumber=bi.biblioitemnumber AND bi.biblionumber=b.biblionumber;
15:56 gerundio items ^
15:56 gerundio I've been debbuging the labels export source code all day and just found why the barcode labels are not being printed for some item
15:55 gerundio good afternoon everyone
15:50 oleonard Anyone know what's up with that? ^^
15:43 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @YvesTomic: "#koha #kohails Ajout de la navigation dans les résultats pour la recherche dans les exemplaires : http://t.co/pKWbXoyV"
15:27 nengard thanks oleonard!!!
15:26 oleonard Luckily I like puzzles nengard :)
15:26 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Change fines link in sidebar" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/369
15:23 nengard :)
15:23 * nengard loves when oleonard thinks for her
15:20 * oleonard thinks
15:20 nengard now ? for the JQuery challenged ? how would I do that? :) hehe
15:20 nengard oh! use JQuery to change where that tab on the left links
15:19 oleonard nengard: Those are faux tabs, not jQuery ones. They each link to separate pages rather than to tabbed content. So you would probably change the "Fines" tab in the left sidebar to link to pay.pl?
15:19 drojf mmmh, rd-fish
15:17 magnuse oleonard: trying to be semantic (or RDFish) ;-)
15:17 nengard hey does anyone have an idea about what JQuery I could use to change the default tab on the patron fines page to the 'pay fines' tab (instead of the history)
15:16 oleonard ?
15:15 magnuse oleonard: like <http://example.org/users/0006067> <http://example.org/actions/isLoggedInAt> <http://example.org/libraries/Athens> ?
14:57 oleonard I'm just grabbing for the easy option. I don't know if there's something better or more semantic
14:57 kf oleonard++ i like the pipe :)
14:57 kf geeks
14:57 kf or geekds
14:56 kf drojf: I think @ will only work for younger folks
14:56 * kf waves
14:43 drojf that's why you got the karma ;)
14:41 magnuse check the history of the page - you might see a familiar name :-)
14:41 drojf yup
14:41 magnuse drojf: yay!
14:40 magnuse wiki.biblab.no?
14:40 drojf magnuse++ # found all i needed on a friendly norwegian site. even the hamsun example gets a hit in our data :)
14:38 jenkins_koha nengard: update loc z target
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14:38 drojf ah, just by opening the url of the server on the right port :D
14:31 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Change in Library of Congress Z39.50 Target http://t.co/l4boLEjL #kohails"
14:29 drojf sru i mean
14:28 drojf how do i test if it is running?
14:17 drojf hehe
14:16 magnuse z39.50 should go the way of MARC - the sooner the better
14:16 magnuse sru is probably the best option
14:16 magnuse i think the built in ils-di docs tells you to use sru instead
14:15 magnuse also opensearch, i think?
14:15 magnuse drojf: yeah, those two
14:12 kf sru could work
14:11 drojf what options do i have to do an OPAC search by script/externam program? ILS-DI does not do that, right? and OAI does not work in real time. so z3950 or SRU probably?
14:11 magnuse nice!
14:11 oleonard :-þ
14:09 magnuse hehe
14:09 drojf english should have at least kept the þ
14:08 * oleonard wonders how English ended up so plain
14:07 drojf :)
14:07 magnuse yay!
14:07 drojf you mean ß?
14:07 magnuse drojf: can you give us a double-s thingy?
14:06 magnuse æøå
14:04 drojf i blame pidgin
14:04 drojf your å did also not work for me
14:03 drojf i guess
14:03 magnuse drojf: that's the one
14:03 magnuse um æ
14:03 drojf æ
14:03 magnuse it was supposed to be %aelig;
14:03 oleonard Works for me magnuse
14:03 magnuse oops
14:03 drojf magnuse: you are sending me questionmarks
14:02 magnuse hæhæ!
14:02 drojf we should all dress up in ø
14:02 drojf løl
14:01 oleonard drøjf++
14:01 drojf lol
14:01 huginn oleonard: Karma for "øleønard" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
14:01 oleonard @karma øleønard
14:00 drojf øleønard++
14:00 magnuse don't forget the å as in Ã¥
13:59 * oleonard sprinkles "/" over everything to make it more norwegian
13:59 magnuse :-)
13:59 drojf make it Ø for the norwegian version :)
13:58 magnuse my gut feeling is that it will look "foreign" to norwegian eyes
13:58 drojf what else could it be recognized as?
13:56 oleonard That was the other proposal yes, and kf pointed out that @ might be internationally recognized as meaning "at"
13:56 magnuse the alternative is "0006067 @ Athens"?
13:55 magnuse oleonard: pipe looks good
13:48 H Package install i did put a new set off data in my koha but it does not reindex (removed old data first) ...i did put the rindexing in /etc/cron.d/koha-common on * * * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra && koha-rebuild-zebra $(koh$ Nothing happens ... anny tips
13:46 oleonard Bootstrap user menu better with pipe instead of @ ? http://screencast.com/t/QJPolikcP
13:45 Dyrcona The older I get, the lower my opinion of most of humanity gets.
13:44 oleonard "Too deadly a concept" ? I don't even get that.
13:44 nengard right!
13:44 oleonard ...which doesn't make any sense at all.
13:44 oleonard In response to "@nengard voted for you. I just don' tthink open source can be developed openly. Too deadly a concept. You might be right, let's see what future has in store"
13:42 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @nengard: "@drakecraytel but what's the point of oss then? why not just develop proprietary software? I think #kohails shows that it can be done well"
13:38 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
13:38 tcohen @later tell druthb I need to upgrade translate.k-c.org's grub now
13:32 magnuse hehe
13:31 oleonard I am still here wahanui. It's only been 12 minutes!
13:31 wahanui i think oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
13:31 magnuse oleonard!
13:19 oleonard #koha!
13:18 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @nengard: "I've been nominated for an award for the article I wrote about OS & #kohails please vote if you feel I deserve it http://t.co/tEskRcdX"
13:14 tcohen hi kf
12:08 kf hi tcohen :)
11:59 tcohen morning #koha!
10:05 mtj s/works/worked/
10:04 mtj hey, it works for me! :)
10:04 rangi but it hsould work in firefox, (a later one) and chrome, at least it should show you a quote and stuff
10:04 mtj rangi, ah, ok … i shut up now :)
10:04 rangi but i broke the manifest file last night poking at it more, id recommend not installing it until i finish playing with it
10:03 rangi its an addon for firefox
10:03 rangi you can get the firefoxOS simulator
10:03 magnuse ah, ok
10:02 rangi naw that wont do anything except on a firefoxOS phone, or an android tablet/phone
10:01 magnuse other than looking up the url again, i mean
10:01 magnuse the app was installed - can i find it again somwhere?
10:00 mtj rangi, wow
10:00 mtj magnuse, ouch
09:59 rangi view the source of the app, thats all the html needed for that
09:58 magnuse and btw: ouch for 160 bugs that need signoff
09:58 rangi :)
09:58 rangi you dont want an app chewing up your phones traffic
09:58 rangi thats by design
09:58 rangi it wont refetch the info from the server
09:57 rangi you can refresh that page a zillion times
09:57 rangi mtj: that wont do it
09:57 magnuse now all we have to do is re-implement koha in html5/js with just a JSON/REST api on the server side ;-)
09:56 magnuse rangi++
09:55 mtj ^^ it fixed the same problem, for me
09:55 kf cool
09:54 mtj .. it should force a page refresh, every 60 seconds
09:53 mtj … line to your index.html page
09:53 mtj <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="60">
09:53 mtj rangi, try adding a...
09:49 kf I am not going to argue with you about that :)
09:48 mtj kf, im sure eythian's got the beer app sorted, already :)
09:48 kf rangi: cool :)
09:47 mtj ok, so add a refresh loop… then useful :)
09:46 rangi stores all the data locally in a key value store tho
09:46 rangi not really, i was using it to learn about the html5 indexdb local storage, so it only refreshes once
09:45 mtj and useful too
09:44 mtj tasty!
09:43 rangi try it in firefox 18
09:43 mtj yeah, thats more like it
09:43 rangi http://dashboard.koha-community.org/app/www/
09:43 kf beer app
09:42 francharb ahah
09:42 mtj fart app?
09:42 rangi you cant build a useful app in 3 hours
09:42 mtj titilation… surely ?
09:41 mtj it literally had no use?
09:41 mtj lol
09:41 mtj and rangi++ too, good show - great job!
09:40 rangi nothing useful
09:40 mtj ooh, twat was the app?
09:38 rangi they had 5 at the day, but when they start shipping the new developer ones eythian and I should be getting one each
09:37 rangi ill have one, i won one for doing an app
09:37 mtj available soon tho…
09:36 mtj http://www.geeksphone.com/
09:35 francharb :)
09:35 mtj http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/01/mozilla-geekspohone-firefox-os-developer-phone/
09:34 mtj … are they obtainable in nz yet?
09:34 mtj rangi, do people at catalyst have firefox-os fones yet?
09:28 mtj and the frisbee games in the sun :)
09:26 mtj those thug monkeys on elephanta island
09:25 mtj i still have flash-backs :p
09:25 mtj wow, mumbai!
09:24 wahanui francharb falls asleep easily at sea. Don't believe me? Just ask Brooke.
09:24 mtj hey francharb
09:24 francharb hi
09:23 mtj … you can write apps for firefox-os?
09:23 mtj i guess if you know how to design/code a web app...
09:22 magnuse yup
09:22 mtj thats good
09:22 mtj lots of people know html5 and js
09:22 magnuse nah, who cares what it looks like :-)
09:21 mtj wow, it kinda makes sense...
09:19 rangi yep and css of course
09:19 magnuse rangi: and for us lazy ratbags: everything is developed in html5 and js?
09:17 rangi https://marketplace.firefox.com/developers
09:17 mtj gonna have a google now...
09:16 mtj and… awesome news :)
09:15 mtj ahh, ok..
09:15 rangi mtj: just that firefoxOS is pretty cool and easy to develop for
09:15 rangi mtj: good and bad stuff, looks like a lot have been installed and left high and dry
09:15 rangi and another one
09:14 mtj haay rangi , any news from firefox day on sunday?
09:14 mtj lots from emails india recently, good stuff
09:13 mtj other than, erm … from india :)
09:12 mtj hmmm, no clues from the email
09:10 rangi i wonder who that person actually phoned
09:10 rangi yep
09:09 mtj anyhoo, im sure they'll try again with different words - if its really urgent
09:08 mtj no!…. please continue...
09:08 rangi you should ahve a telephonic call with them
09:07 mtj i wanna send a reply…. 'um, ok… ' :)
09:07 wahanui the mailing list is, like, at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
09:07 rangi the mailing list
09:07 kf oh what did I miss? :)
09:07 rangi yeah that was my fave
09:06 mtj wait….
09:05 mtj lol, classic stuff :)
08:50 magnuse :-)
08:46 kf kia ora everyone :)
08:45 magnuse kia ora rangi and #koha
08:13 rangi welcome to nonsensical mailing list emails evening ... 5 of them so far
08:13 rangi evening
08:09 jajm hello
08:05 wahanui privet, gaetan_B
08:05 gaetan_B hello
07:55 asaurat hi
07:44 cait bbl
07:41 reiveune hello
07:31 alex_a bonjour cait :)
07:31 cait bonjour alex_a :)
07:30 alex_a bonjour
07:22 magnuse nope
07:18 cait hm that's not too bad
07:18 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (7:50 AM CET on January 28, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 29.00 in 982 hPa (Falling).
07:18 magnuse @wunder boo
07:18 cait good morning #koha
07:18 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0°C (8:00 AM CET on January 28, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
07:18 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:18 cait good morning magnuse
07:16 magnuse and good morning #koha
07:16 magnuse they had -41.3 during the night
07:16 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is -38.2°C (8:13 AM CET on January 28, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -40.0°C. Windchill: -38.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady).
07:16 magnuse @wunder karasjok, norway
04:59 rangi Hehe
04:59 jcamins_away rangi: voice T1?
04:56 rangi How do you have a telephonic call with a 2000 person mailing list?
01:24 eythian he does
01:24 drojf oh no you don't
01:23 wahanui I watch you sleep.
01:23 drojf good night
01:15 cjh yeah, took up most of my weekend. Means I get 'the week off' though :)
01:14 mtj cjh, yow, thats rough - on such a nice day
01:12 * mtj reminds himself to have a read-up on it, later...
01:12 cjh I couldnt go either, had chemistry homework >.>
01:11 mtj but, im very curious about it all
01:11 mtj i had something on already, so couldnt make it… :/
00:23 rangi heh not too bad, was a fun day
00:19 drojf hi rangi, how's the firefox os business going? :)
00:16 rangi heh yeah
00:15 wizzyrea i forget - it's sunday :)
00:15 wizzyrea so quiet