Time Nick Message 07:52 cait hi #koha 17:36 magnuse wow, quiet sunday... 18:57 * cait waves 18:57 rangi morning 18:58 cait morning rangi 19:51 * wizzyrea waves 19:51 * cait waves to wizzyrea and trea 19:52 wizzyrea oleonard++ :D 19:52 * trea wavews 19:52 * trea waves 19:57 wizzyrea hi cait :) 20:01 rangi http://bibframe.org/ 20:02 cait looks like... bootstrap? 20:02 rangi probably yep 20:02 rangi yep it is 20:02 cait my coworker said they use a different data model than rda 20:03 cait which seems... weird. 20:03 rangi no one actually uses RDA 20:03 rangi cos its ummm pointless 20:03 cait not argueing with you about that 20:03 rangi i think this is a sign LOC have given up on RDA 20:03 cait but I thought bibframe was kinda thought to be the new exchange format 20:03 rangi yep 20:03 cait and rda the new cataloguing standard 20:03 cait so... 20:03 rangi in theory yes 20:03 cait yeah, but germany decided to use it 20:04 cait [off] /me goes to bang her head somewhere 20:04 rangi but it seems that no one can think of cataloguing standards as being separate to storage standards 20:04 rangi so RDA became some new MARC fields 20:04 wizzyrea people are "using" it, they just don't know what to *do* with it 20:09 wizzyrea (bootstrap is just a simple way to make a website quickly + accessible. You can also use it as a base framework to do other stuff on top) 20:09 cait hm 20:09 cait wondering if it means bibframe is also using a different structure than frbr? 20:10 wizzyrea it doesn't look so different 20:10 cait because I think rda was kinda using frbr? 20:10 wizzyrea but it probably is in subtle ways. 20:10 cait not sure 20:15 wizzyrea cait, question 20:16 wizzyrea the predue + due notices 20:16 wizzyrea they show the date issued, instead of the date due 20:16 wizzyrea does this make sense? 20:16 cait hm no 20:17 cait in the sample notices? 20:17 wizzyrea that is, am I going to get a lot of pushback if I change which date is displayed, do you think 20:17 wizzyrea no, it's in the code. 20:17 wizzyrea of the cronjob 20:17 cait ah, can't you change that using itemscontent? 20:17 wizzyrea no 20:17 wizzyrea it's part of itemscontent. 20:17 cait ah I think I am not using itemscontent with those at all probably... 20:17 wizzyrea it says "issuedate" 20:17 * cait tries to remember 20:17 rangi it is or it isnt? 20:17 rangi part of itemscontent 20:18 wizzyrea it is 20:18 cait wizzyrea: let me take a look at the cronjob 20:18 rangi then you should be able to change it 20:19 cait wizzyrea: I think you can run the cronjob with an -itemscontent option 20:19 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/cronjobs/advance_notices.pl;h=a090ecc341c18326ccc2a267a073a72b9ea688ae;hb=03b7c9f8b96cb995121b9ff80a531475f7317a8e 20:19 * wizzyrea did not see this in the documentation 20:19 cait although it does not seem to be in the help 20:19 cait ... 20:20 cait if I read line 73 correctly 20:20 cait but should be easy to test 20:20 wizzyrea yea, it's not in the documentation or the help 20:20 wizzyrea but it can be done 20:20 wizzyrea well that's easy enough. 20:20 wizzyrea Yay 20:20 wizzyrea :D 20:20 cait and I would change the default 20:20 cait if you have time... I think we did it for the overdues in the pst 20:21 cait there should be a bug about that somewhere in the depth of bugzilla 20:21 rangi http://perldoc.koha-community.org/misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.html 20:21 wizzyrea everyone wins - it's not in advanced notices but it is in overdues 20:22 wizzyrea I will fix both things. 20:22 wizzyrea :) 20:26 * cjh learns about perldoc.kc 20:27 cait :) 20:51 jcamins_away Hello everyone. I had a brilliant idea! Let's come up with another standard that will never gain any traction and provides no identifable value! 20:51 cait jcamins_away: you are too late 20:51 cait someone else had the idea already :) 20:51 cait and go back and take your vacation! 20:52 jcamins_away cait: bah! I figured no one else in the library world would think of doing _that_. 20:52 * jcamins_away does so. 20:52 cait :) 20:52 cait jcamins_away++ 22:19 magnuse rough concensus and running code is the only way forward! #marcmustdie 22:19 eythian hi 22:19 wahanui what's up, eythian 22:25 ibeardslee wahanui: the sun is up 22:25 wahanui ...but sun is shining again - life is good!... 22:25 eythian @wunder nzwn 22:25 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on January 28, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady). 22:25 eythian wahanui is right! 22:28 rangi hmm that seems low 22:28 eythian my computer is saying 17 22:28 rangi im sure it was more than 16 when i was waiting for the bus this morning 22:29 rangi i think the metservice is broken 22:29 eythian and metservice is saying 15.7 22:29 eythian maybe there's a southerly breeze 22:29 eythian yeah, there is 22:30 ibeardslee maybe they're just out enjoying the sun 22:30 eythian supposed to hit 25 at about 6pm, which is a weird time for it 22:30 ibeardslee "hey tom, go update the website", "get stuffed bill, you do it, I'm comfy and warm on the deck chair" 22:31 eythian "well just write that in the report then!" 22:31 * wizzyrea was at the beach at 7pm yesterday, and it was still warm. 22:34 drojf evening