Time Nick Message 01:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #51 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #51: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/51/ 02:31 jenkins_koha * hugh: Bug 9062 Fix format for discount rate for vendors 02:31 jenkins_koha * hugh: Bug 9062 Fix spacing next to tax rate 02:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9062 trivial, P5 - low, ---, hugh, Pushed to Stable , Tax and discount should be formatted the same 02:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #260 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 03:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #260: UNSTABLE in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/260/ 03:09 jenkins_koha * fred.pierre: Bug 8401 : Highlighting of search terms in preference causes loss of data 03:09 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 9229 - branch code instead of name in subscription-detail.pl 03:09 jenkins_koha * vfernandes: Bug 9376: Problem with dateexpiry display in moremember.tt 03:09 jenkins_koha * gmc: Bug 9376: extend HTML fix to moremember-brief.tt 03:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8401 critical, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Search term deleted from system preference content 03:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9229 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , branch code instead of name in subscription-detail.pl 03:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #52 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 03:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9376 minor, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Stable , Problem with dateexpiry display in moremember.tt 03:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #52: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/52/ 03:50 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add Hugh Davenport to history 03:50 jenkins_koha * fred.pierre: Bug 8401 : Highlighting of search terms in preference causes loss of data 03:50 jenkins_koha * agent.075: Bug 9398 - [ ? ] Link Lacks Context for All General Users (Accessibility) [Contexual Help] 03:50 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add Fred Pierre to history 03:50 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 9229 - branch code instead of name in subscription-detail.pl 03:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8401 critical, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Search term deleted from system preference content 03:50 jenkins_koha * vfernandes: Bug 9376: Problem with dateexpiry display in moremember.tt 03:50 jenkins_koha * gmc: Bug 9376: extend HTML fix to moremember-brief.tt 03:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9398 trivial, P5 - low, ---, agent.075, Pushed to Stable , [ ? ] Link Lacks Context for All General Users (Accessibility) [Contexual Help] 03:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9229 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , branch code instead of name in subscription-detail.pl 03:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9376 minor, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Stable , Problem with dateexpiry display in moremember.tt 03:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #261 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #259 1 day 5 hr ago) 04:04 gmcharlt general question for the ether: are there any Koha users out there who are also RDA Toolkit subscribers? 04:27 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 04:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #261: FIXED in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/261/ 04:27 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Revert "Bug 9229 - branch code instead of name in subscription-detail.pl" 04:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9229 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , branch code instead of name in subscription-detail.pl 04:31 WaylonR hiya all! okay, getting back into my koha work. 06:21 alohabot Hi mib_2x8hb6, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 06:24 keeranbot Hi alohabot, am new to this community, here to understand the koha's usage - will get in touch when need clarifications 06:25 cait keeranbot: alohabot is a little tool :) but welcome :) 06:50 * magnuse waves 06:57 magnuse @wunder boo 06:57 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (7:20 AM CET on January 24, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 07:16 cait hi magnuse 07:16 cait @wunder Konstanz 07:16 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0°C (8:00 AM CET on January 24, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Rising). 07:16 magnuse guten morgen cait 07:30 alex_a bonjour 07:30 wahanui privet, alex_a 07:36 pratik_lahoti hi all. I wanted to ask if Koha can be integrated with LDAP? 07:38 cait yes, it can 07:38 cait documentation? 07:38 wahanui documentation is, like, at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 07:39 cait sorry, have to go 07:39 cait bye all - bbl 07:41 pratik_lahoti wahanui: thanks for the link. Does it need to be done manually? 07:41 wahanui my pleasure pratik_lahoti 07:49 reiveune hello 07:49 wahanui salut, reiveune 07:56 pratik_lahoti wahanui: what steps do I need to perform in order to integrate it with LDAP? Can you please give a rough idea...? 07:56 wahanui pratik_lahoti: no idea 07:56 pratik_lahoti alright 08:03 rangi evening 08:05 paul_p hi rangi. 08:05 paul_p still in bed with flu... 08:06 cjh heh wahanui is good 08:08 magnuse yeah, that exchange was almost human 08:08 magnuse not very helpful, though 09:23 saiacslib hello 09:23 rangi hi saiacslib 09:48 saiacslib hi, we are having a problem when adding or editing item. the followiong error is displayed : Software error: :27: parser error : Opening and ending tag mismatch: record line 6 and datafield </datafield> ^ :28: parser error : Opening and ending tag mismatch: collection line 2 and record </record> ^ :29: parser error : Extra content 09:48 saiacslib could you help me? 09:53 gerundio what koha version are your using? 09:54 saiacslib 3.10.01.000 09:58 gerundio is that the whole error? 09:59 rangi is it all records, or just one? 10:00 saiacslib all records 10:02 rangi have you been changing frameworks ? 10:03 saiacslib not that I'm aware of. 10:07 rangi what that is saying is that the marcxml is badly formed xml, that shouldnt be able to happen 10:07 rangi so its a puzzling one 10:07 vfernandes hello 10:07 wahanui que tal, vfernandes 10:07 vfernandes wow channel bot talking portuguese :) 10:08 vfernandes wahanui is a bot rigth? if not sorry :/ 10:09 saiacslib how can i correct this? 10:13 magnuse vfernandes: yup wahanui is a bot :-) 10:13 rangi saiacslib: im sorry I don't know I havent seen this error before 10:13 vfernandes rangi today i've tested patron cards in 3.8 and there is a problem with the some latin characters (á for example) 10:14 alohabot Hi mib_dgjt3c, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 10:14 vfernandes but in 3.2 worked fine 10:15 vfernandes which bug do you refer yesterday to that problem? 10:16 saiacslib rangi 10:17 rangi vfernandes: bug 8375 10:17 wahanui rumour has it bug 8375 is surposed to fix something, and it's on the right track, but not sufficiant to make utf-8 work 10:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, In Discussion , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF 10:19 saiacslib can you help me on the " badly formed xml 10:19 magnuse saiacslib: do you get that error when editing records or items or both? 10:20 saiacslib got errors when editing items 10:21 magnuse did you upgrade from an earlier or version or install 3.10.1 directly? 10:23 saiacslib this error occured when working with the previous version and then I upgraded to 3.1 this morning problem not solved. 10:23 rangi what version did you upgrade from? 10:25 saiacslib i'm sorry its 3.10. upgraded it from 3.08.06.000 10:27 rangi if it was in the previous version, it sounds like corrupt data 10:28 saiacslib how so? 10:29 rangi since no one else is getting that error in either of those versions, it must be something particular to your situation 10:29 rangi and its definitely fine when you are editing records right? only errors on items? 10:30 saiacslib although records are being entered to date. Only records/ items entered till 18/12 seem to show . 10:31 * rangi has to sleep now 10:32 saiacslib if you send me info to sysadmin@saiacs.org will be greatful. 10:51 * gerundio thinks saiacslib isn't getting any email because there's no info to send 10:57 kf @wunder Konstanz 10:57 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.3°C (11:55 AM CET on January 24, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 11:09 drojf hi #koha 11:15 kf hi drojf :) 11:15 drojf hi kf :9 11:15 drojf :) 11:36 drojf kf: is there a patch for indexing of 880? 11:36 kf not yet :( 11:36 kf you could talk to gmcharlt maybe 11:38 drojf i need some extra fields anyway and have not done that for DOM. maybe i put 880 in too. might be a good way to get my other fields pushed ;) 11:40 kf i think for 880 you could do some kind of routine probably 11:43 magnuse drojf++ kf++ you just made me realize why the index i was trying to add wasn't working :-) 11:43 kf we did? 11:44 drojf yeah we \o/ yeah us? nay grammar 11:44 magnuse yup, i was adding it to record.abs and forgetting about dom indexing, which is what i chose during the upgrade 11:45 drojf :) 11:48 magnuse so if i generate the .xsl from record.abs it should work - in theory 11:48 kf hm I think jared said we shoudl not do that 11:48 kf or it should only be done once? andnot later? 11:49 kf because there are bugs that will come back or something? 11:50 drojf i remember a "don't generate somethingsomething" too. not sure where i put that, i think DOm is not in my wiki yet 11:51 vkm how to create language effect like given on this site near the CART http://libcat.mysore-univ.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl 11:55 vkm2 how to set language effects like here near CART http://libcat.mysore-univ.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl 11:55 magnuse it worked!!!! woohoo! 11:56 magnuse i think the point was that once we start editing the xml/xsl files by hand we can no longer generate them from record.abs 11:56 magnuse and so far there has been no hand editing of the normarc files, at least 11:56 magnuse but i might be wrong... 11:58 drojf (14:33:38) magnuse: jcamins: "The GRS-1 to DOM script should *never* be run again" --> that is once we start editing and improving the dom config? 11:58 drojf (14:34:04) jcamins: magnuse: right. 11:58 drojf (14:34:33) jcamins: Once the configuration has been created and signed off, DOM configs will necessarily start diverging. 11:59 drojf we should have a jcaminsvacation bot that pulls relevant stuff from the logs automatically 11:59 magnuse hehe 12:00 vfernandes guys one question: in koha OAI you can't choose xslt file right? 12:02 magnuse first question? 12:02 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" 12:02 magnuse vfernandes: you can run your records through an xslt file before they are delivered to the client 12:04 magnuse vfernandes: you use a configuration file that you tell koha about with the OAI-PMH:ConfFile syspref 12:06 vfernandes oai.pl uses one default xslt 12:06 magnuse vfernandes: here is some documentation: http://perldoc.koha-community.org/opac/oai.html 12:06 drojf magnuse: what do you use that for? things like changing field numbers? (like, you use field xxx but in the union catalogue that is supposed to harvest the data it has to be field yyy)? 12:06 magnuse drojf: exactly 12:07 drojf nice, i bet i can use that one day :) 12:07 magnuse i use it because the norwegian national library wants to harvest records and they have some specific requirements that can't be met otherwise 12:08 magnuse here's the xslt i use, for what it's worth: https://gist.github.com/1918264 12:08 vfernandes thanks magnuse :) 12:12 magnuse vfernandes: my pleasure! 12:15 vfernandes another question: one patron has one checkout overdue shouldn't renewals be blocked? 12:15 vfernandes in staff client 12:20 magnuse vfernandes: depends on your settings, i think 12:20 * magnuse goes for a walk 12:42 chris_n @later tell cait the problem is the PDF standard; I have an email somewhere where I discuss it with a software engineer at adobe; his answer was that there is no universal solution short of embedding fonts; that option has been voted down several times 12:42 huginn chris_n: The operation succeeded. 12:43 chris_n @later tell cait so until that changes, it won't work... ever :-) 12:43 huginn chris_n: The operation succeeded. 12:55 * kf waves 12:55 kf chris_n: I am here, you know :) 12:56 chris_n oh! 12:56 chris_n heya kf 12:57 chris_n maybe that explains my comment 12:57 chris_n embedding fonts was not favored by the community 12:57 chris_n due to a number of reasons which are probably in the irc logs somewhere 12:58 chris_n a css solution is the better long-term solution 13:00 kf agreed :) 13:02 jcamins Where "better" = "only viable." 13:02 chris_n ^^ 13:03 chris_n bbl 13:04 jcamins Pfeh. I don't understand how paul_p tested acquisitions patches with Plack. 13:06 jcamins git show 13:06 jcamins Wrong window. 13:31 magnuse @wunder boo 13:31 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (2:20 PM CET on January 24, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 13:45 drojf that's a trendy nick :) 13:46 drojf jcamins: shouldn't you be dreaming in california or something? 13:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9280' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=704de197eadc66dabe3aeaa1b2f02f3c7c16179f> / Bug 9280: FIX price calculation adding an order from a staged file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=756afbb89bae87ceac6f3b90c21a67952bab03e8> / Merge branch 'bug_9391' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdi 13:46 jcamins drojf: I'm leaving tomorrow. 13:46 drojf ah! ok 13:47 jcamins [off] I think perhaps I need a command-line MARC editor that is a little bit more usable than MarcEdit. .NET sucks. 13:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #1022 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:51 jcamins tcohen: could you please take a look at bug 9211 and answer my question there? 13:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9211 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , days_between wrong behaviour 13:51 drojf [off] i don't know why i looked it up ('procrastination' might be the reason), but that "language" thing that was asked about is a google service (of course!). s/he did not have the patience to wait longer than a few minutes for an answer, so that does not help him/her anything now. but it kept me from working for 5 minutes 13:51 jcamins I'd _reeeaaaalllllyy_ like to push it before I leave. 13:51 jcamins [off] Language thing? 13:52 drojf [off] (12:53:44) vkm2: how to set language effects like here near CART http://libcat.mysore-univ.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl 13:52 jcamins Ah. 13:52 tcohen i'll take a look jcamins, i've been away from my inbox for a while 13:52 jcamins Thanks. 13:54 jwagner drojf, I think that's controlled by the GoogleIndicTransliteration syspref -- I've seen that before 13:55 tcohen jcamins, I haven't really checked wheter days_between is used with the dates swapped though the code 13:56 tcohen its just from a comment in bug 8486 that noted the API documentation was not respected by the function 13:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8486 blocker, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Critical error in Koha::Calendar::days_between calculation 13:56 jcamins Ah, thanks! 13:57 tcohen and our unit test for that feature started to fail when we kind-of-fixed several bits of the Calendar 13:57 tcohen anyway 13:57 tcohen i'm fetching master 13:57 tcohen and about to look for occurences of that kind of usage 13:57 tcohen (swapped dates) 13:57 jcamins Thanks. 13:58 drojf jwagner: thanks. i was wondering if there is a syspref because i remember seeing the transliteration <div> in koha, which would not make sense if it was a local hack. i never paid attention to any google-y sysprefs in koha ;) 13:58 tcohen i feel (the same for negative duratios) that we don't have such a use, but the libs are designed to work just in case 13:59 jcamins tcohen: makes sense. 14:01 kf drojf: there is no pref - I think you have to add a localuse one 14:01 kf drojf: there should be abug somewhere too, but I think it was kind of partially implemented 14:05 jcamins Question... fines of type MAN_INV... they're added using the "Create manual invoice" tab, right? 14:06 jcamins No. 14:06 jcamins They're not. 14:06 jcamins How do I create a MAN_INV? 14:07 kf you add it as authorized value 14:07 kf it's a bit weird 14:07 kf but there are samples in the authorised value sample sql 14:07 jcamins I add it as an authorized value? 14:07 kf yep 14:07 jcamins Ummm... 14:07 kf MAN_INV is the authorized value code 14:08 kf then you add an entry for each custom fee/fine thing you want 14:08 jcamins For the MANUAL_INV category? 14:08 kf I think the library description is the descrption and the opac desc is the amount 14:08 kf or something like that 14:08 kf ah right, yes 14:08 kf that one 14:08 drojf when i have unfinished stuff in a git branch but need to switch to another… is there some other way to do that than git stash? 14:08 jcamins Hrm. 14:08 jcamins drojf: nope. 14:09 jcamins drojf: at least, not that I know of. 14:09 jwagner jcamins, that was one of our early features, see Bug 3476 14:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3476 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Predefined fee types 14:09 magnuse drojf: print it out on paper ;-) 14:10 jcamins There we go. 14:10 jcamins Now it's working. 14:10 drojf magnuse: lol ecellent idea :) 14:10 drojf excellent even 14:17 drojf but what do i do if i am in the middle of a rebase? if i try to git stash save i get lots of "needs merge" messages and "fatal: git-write-tree: error building trees Cannot save the current index state" 14:17 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @esilibrary: "Come and See Us at Booth 917 At the ALA Midwinter Meeting in Seattle! https://t.co/1hLgyaAX #alamw13 #kohails #egils" 14:18 drojf (the obvious answer would be "finish your work before you do something else" but that's not my way :D ) 14:20 jcamins Yay. 14:20 jcamins Three patches relating to overdue notices left in "Passed QA." 14:20 kf fun... 14:21 jcamins Argh! 14:21 jcamins I just merged with the commit and not the branch. 14:21 * jcamins tries again. 14:24 * magnuse cheers jcamins on 14:24 magnuse drojf: finish your work before you do something else 14:24 magnuse :-) 14:25 magnuse hiya talljoy 14:25 talljoy good morning! (at least for me) 14:32 rambutan @wunder 64507 14:32 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -13.2°C (8:29 AM CST on January 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -18.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Steady). 14:32 jcamins tcohen: I am looking at bug 9211 now, and I am concerned that it might cause problems with debarments. 14:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9211 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , days_between wrong behaviour 14:32 jcamins I am trying to figure out how to test it. 14:33 rambutan huggin: recalculate 14:33 rambutan @wunder 64507 14:33 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -13.2°C (8:30 AM CST on January 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -18.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Steady). 14:34 tcohen jcamins, are you looking at _debar_user_on_return ? 14:34 jcamins Yes. 14:35 tcohen deltadays should always be positive 14:36 jcamins Right, but doesn't that mean that if we debar after a book is two weeks delinquent, the borrower will get debarred also if the book is returned two weeks early? 14:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7243' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce6f2cb74f78196e8d80a8b9acf27060e5fa09eb> / Bug 7243: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3637c5c3896dd91b318abc0799cc6840c4cc451f> / Merge branch 'bug_7243' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1fd8ff155afed452acac530a99b 14:41 jcamins I can't figure out how to test that theory. 14:45 tcohen jcamins, i'll try to dig a bit 14:45 jcamins tcohen: thanks. 14:45 tcohen my first guess is that it might be a new bug 14:48 jcamins Ooh, I know how to test it! I set the system to debar after two weeks, check out a book that is due in three weeks, and immediately check it back in. 14:49 jcamins Where do I set debarring? 14:49 kf in the patron record? 14:49 jcamins kf: sorry, automatic debarring. 14:49 kf or in circulation rules 14:49 kf there are 2 kinds of automatic debarring 14:49 kf by days and unlimited 14:49 kf unlimited with the overdue notice triggers 14:49 kf in tools 14:50 kf theother in circulation rules > fine in days 14:50 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Perry-Lecompton Community Library Joins NEKLS and Chooses ByWater Solutions’ Koha Support http://t.co/0XQqdXDC #kohails" 14:50 kf and now I am gone :) 14:50 jcamins I want by days. 14:50 jcamins Thanks. 14:50 kf bye all 14:51 jcamins Hm. 14:52 tcohen in line 1833, _debar_user_on_return will be called only if the item is overdue 14:52 jcamins Ah, excellent. 14:54 jcamins Okay, I am not seeing any regressions. 14:54 magnuse w00t! 14:54 tcohen we need to satart 14:54 tcohen start writing mocked circulation tests 14:54 jcamins Agreed! 14:55 tcohen maybe start by mocking the currrent db dependent tests 14:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1022: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1022/ 14:56 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9281: FIX add an order from a staged file 14:56 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9391: FIX display status in serials-collection 14:56 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9280: FIX price calculation adding an order from a staged file 14:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9281 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Impossible to create an order from a staged file 14:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9391 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Issues on serial collection page no longer show status 14:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9280 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Bad price calculation when filling a basket with staged records 14:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #1023 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1021 1 day 13 hr ago) 15:02 tcohen have a nice vacation jcamins++ 15:02 jcamins Thanks. :) 15:03 jcamins Oh, darn. I ran too many tests today. 15:03 rambutan jcamins is vacationing? 15:03 jcamins rambutan: yep, leaving tomorrow. 15:05 rambutan barbados I hope? 15:05 jcamins rambutan: California. 15:05 rambutan Oh, well, that's just like Barbados. 15:06 jcamins Three patches to the overdues code. 15:06 rambutan PD cold out there, ain't it druthb? 15:06 druthb srsly. Colder than a mother-in-law's kiss. 15:07 magnuse lol 15:07 * druthb blames magnuse 15:08 rambutan @wunder bop 15:08 huginn rambutan: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 15:08 rambutan @wunder oop 15:08 huginn rambutan: Error: No such location could be found. 15:08 rambutan @wunder boo 15:08 huginn rambutan: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 15:08 druthb you broke it, rambutan 15:08 jcamins @wunder 11375 15:08 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is -8.9°C (9:41 AM EST on January 24, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Rising). 15:08 rambutan my next guess was going to be poo 15:08 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9211' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=af877803851e1d65fa738cf2c4be465f7054248d> / Bug 9211 - days_between wrong behaviour <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7d202cbd3508839233cdd841759292fa589b8bd> 15:08 druthb @wunder bodo 15:08 huginn druthb: An error has occurred and has been logged. 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Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Rising). 15:11 magnuse @wunder boo 15:11 huginn magnuse: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 15:11 magnuse boo! 15:11 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway 15:11 huginn magnuse: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 15:11 magnuse gah 15:11 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 15:11 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 36.0°C (11:00 AM ART on January 24, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 19%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 15:11 druthb curious. 15:11 magnuse 36! 15:12 tcohen we're in hell this days here... 15:12 jcamins magnuse: did you fall off the edge of the earth?!? 15:12 * druthb wonders if she can move to Cordoba. 15:12 magnuse jcamins: looks like it! 15:12 wahanui looks like it is a PDF download from there. 15:12 magnuse heh 15:12 magnuse wahanui: forget looks like it 15:12 wahanui magnuse: I forgot looks like it 15:12 tcohen if you can deal with librarians telling MARC21 is the empire's cataloguing standard... you can 15:13 * druthb wonders how hard it is to get a visa. You need a consultant down there, tcohen, don't you? For *something*? 15:13 * jcamins hums the imperial march. 15:13 * magnuse thinks he nailed bug 9213, but needs to do some more testing 15:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9213 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Implement analytics for NORMARC XSLT 15:14 tcohen yes, of course. No visa that I know 15:14 * magnuse has a raspberry pi waiting to be picked upat the post office 15:14 jcamins Nice! 15:14 jcamins I have a Raspberry Pi waiting to be played with more. :D 15:15 druthb Just need a passport...no visa for visits up to 90 days...just a $160 reciprocity fee. 15:15 magnuse reciprocity fee? 15:15 * tcohen feels envy about magnuse's acquisition 15:15 tcohen we are really open :-D 15:15 druthb That's what the State Dept calls it...A fee for not having to buy a visa, apparently. 15:16 magnuse a.k.a. a bribe? ;-) 15:16 tcohen out for lunch bye 15:16 druthb :P 15:19 * druthb has never been to South America, at all. Would love to visit tcohen some time! 15:21 rambutan @wunder Erfjord 15:21 huginn rambutan: Error: No such location could be found. 15:23 jcamins The farthest south I've been is Mexico. 15:23 druthb Mumbai, for me. Still north of the Equator by a good bit. 15:24 rambutan Ho Chi Minh 15:25 magnuse wellington 15:25 wahanui wellington is lucky, we have a lot of indian restaurants 15:25 magnuse indeed 15:25 druthb Wellington looks like it's just a bit farther south than Cordoba, but not by much. 15:26 jcamins druthb: you've been three degrees further south than I have. 15:26 * druthb is looking at a map that has no meridian lines on it. 15:26 * jcamins just looked up latitude and longitude. 15:27 druthb Jordan is more-or-less even with central TX. 15:27 magnuse oslo is more or less even with the southern tip of greenland :-) 15:28 jcamins Huh. Where I was in Morocco is only 6 degrees south of New York. 15:28 druthb No one's gonna match magnuse fo northbound travel, I don't think. Winnipeg, for me, which is south of *all* of Scandinavia and the UK, more-or-less even with Paris. 15:29 jcamins Heh. 15:29 jcamins Probably not. 15:29 jcamins Furthest north I've been was... 15:29 pratik_lahoti Hi. I am Pratik, an engineering student from India 15:30 druthb Hi, Pratik. :) 15:30 jcamins Aarhus. 15:30 pratik_lahoti I use Ubuntu 12.04 operating system and downloaded the koha-common package just now 15:31 pratik_lahoti actually, I want to set up Koha on our college server - http://foss.coep.org.in 15:32 magnuse furthest north i have been was the North Cape - but Umanaq in greenland *feels* much more northerly 15:32 pratik_lahoti our server uses LDAP for authentication purpose 15:32 drojf oh i got bug 4888 working i think. it does not really seem to do what i was hoping though. and i am not sure what other things i destroyed while rebasing ;) 15:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4888 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, salva, Patch doesn't apply , pre-set of field indicators value 15:32 pratik_lahoti can someone guide me on how to configure Koha for our FOSS server and then integrate with LDAP? 15:33 * jcamins doesn't know anything about LDAP beyond that there's a blog post at http://bywatersolutions.com/2012/07/09/koha-ldap/ 15:33 gerundio pratik_lahoti, I think I might help you with the LDAP part 15:34 pratik_lahoti gerundio: great :) 15:35 gerundio tell me, what have you done so far regarding the LDAP authentication settings? 15:36 pratik_lahoti I personally haven't had any experience with LDAP. My seniors have installed some packages in the past :) 15:38 gerundio hmm, ok 15:38 gerundio so 1st things 1st 15:38 Dyrcona Would koha work for a consortium of 172 libraries where every library might want its own circ and hold rules? 15:39 jcamins Dyrcona: yes. 15:39 gerundio you'll need a few settings regarding your LDAP server: hostname, base (as in user base DN), user and password (in case your LDAP performs authenticated bind searches) 15:40 Dyrcona I think I should check the code out and have a deeper look. It has been a couple of years since I looked at the code. 15:43 pratik_lahoti gerundio: alright 15:44 gerundio pratik_lahoti, after you have those settings and the auth working we can discuss the user profile mapping settings, ok? 15:45 pratik_lahoti in my case, hostname would be foss.coep.org.in right? 15:47 pratik_lahoti gerundio: ^ I forgot to mention you above 15:48 gerundio not really 15:49 gerundio I'm guessing you already have a ldap server in place 15:49 gerundio the hostname must be domain name for that server 15:50 pratik_lahoti yeah we have the ldap server installed. we recently set up a wiki as well 15:50 pratik_lahoti which was integrated with ldap 15:51 gerundio so you must have set the ldap server hostname in your wiki software too 15:53 pratik_lahoti gerundio: yeah finding those details wont be a big deal. I know the person who set up the wiki so I can get those details from him 15:53 gerundio do that and have them set in your koha-conf.xml file 15:54 jcamins Dyrcona: are you thinking of migrating to Koha? :) 15:55 Dyrcona jcamins: No, but exploring options. 15:55 jcamins Dyrcona: Koha is pretty awesome! 15:56 jcamins My keyboard has a character count feature. 15:56 jcamins I could find out how many letters I type each day. 15:56 jcamins Well, keypresses. 15:56 jcamins Looks like modifier keys get counted too. 15:58 pratik_lahoti gerundio: alright. and what would be the next step then? 15:58 gerundio pratik_lahoti, well, just set the useldapserver to 1 in koha-conf.xml 16:00 gerundio if you put the settings in the right place according to this site jcamins pointed out http://bywatersolutions.com/2012/07/09/koha-ldap/ 16:00 gerundio you'd be able to login using your LDAP account 16:01 gerundio try it out and ask away if you find any trouble in the process 16:02 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1023: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1023/ 16:02 jenkins_koha * mathieu.saby: Bug 9402: letter v between 2 option tags 16:02 jenkins_koha * srdjan: Bug 7243: Be selective when summing up charges for blocking issues 16:02 jenkins_koha * srdjan: Bug 7243: Rewording and renaming 16:02 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 7243: Increment version number 16:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9402 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , useless letter "v" between 2 <option> tags 16:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7243 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Do not take rentals as fines 16:02 jenkins_koha Starting build #1024 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1021 1 day 14 hr ago) 16:06 pratik_lahoti gerundio: alright! I am in the koha-conf.xml file right now. I found the <useldapserver> tag nested inside the <config> tag 16:06 pratik_lahoti then the chunk of code starting with <ldapserver id="ldapserver"> must be placed in the <config> tag itself right? 16:08 gerundio pratik_lahoti, yes, that's it 16:09 gerundio I'm having some trouble to get zebra indexes up and running in my dev installation 16:09 gerundio I've set the ownership of the installation folder to the user koha 16:10 gerundio added the daemon and made sure the paths are correct in koha's user crontab 16:10 gerundio I've tried setting up a zebra indexes reset and got no results 16:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_6835' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=350fcf23a5ce63a62bf45fd29a3fcd14a0c4cbcb> / Bug 6835 - Ability to specify types of email address in overdue_notices.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2290475492755c84fd201c6ea81b46d7f0ab161> 16:11 jcamins gerundio: are you sure Zebra is running? 16:11 jcamins PQA queue is empty, except for one bug I won't push until I know how to reproduce it. 16:11 gerundio when I run "/etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start" I can see it with "ps aux | grep zebra" 16:12 gerundio the weird thing is nothing shows up in the logs 16:12 jcamins Hm. 16:12 jcamins Nothing would. 16:12 gerundio right 16:13 gerundio but when the cronjob for index starts it shouldn't either? 16:13 pratik_lahoti gerundio: Ok, thanks a lot for your help. Will try it out and get back to you :) 16:13 gerundio pratik_lahoti, sure, np 16:13 jcamins gerundio: nope. You can add a -v and you'll get e-mailed any output. 16:14 gerundio even if I manually run "rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r" without ">/dev/null"? 16:18 jcamins gerundio: you'll have to add -v or -v -v in order to get any output. 16:18 jcamins And even then, the output won't really give you any useful information for troubleshooting. 16:18 gerundio ok, just ran it with -v now 16:18 gerundio I get what you mean with "any useful information" :D 16:20 gerundio well, at least this way I can see it running and try it out when the process is done 16:20 gerundio what would you say is a good way to debug this process? 16:21 jcamins faq? 16:21 wahanui faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ 16:21 jcamins ^^ the last question has good suggestions. 16:27 gerundio done all that before 16:28 gerundio just not 100% sure about the "The indexes must be owned and readable by the correct user (usually your system koha user or root, depending on your setup). Permissions are a common cause of indexing not working." 16:30 gerundio the zebra indexes are located at /var/lock/koha/zebradb/ ? 16:30 jcamins No. 16:30 jcamins Those files also need to belong to your Koha user. 16:30 gerundio they do 16:30 jcamins But the indexes are in /var/lib/koha/zebradb 16:30 gerundio I've ran a "locate zebra" on the server 16:30 gerundio lots of ocurrences 16:31 gerundio ok, checking /var/lib then 16:31 jcamins Yeah, /var/lib/koha/zebradb and /var/lock/koha/zebradb 16:32 jcamins Unless you did a dev install, in which case ~/koha-dev/var/lib/zebradb and ~/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb 16:34 gerundio it's a dev install 16:34 gerundio those paths are koha user owned too 16:34 gerundio the zebradb/biblios subdirs show a few files other than README 16:35 gerundio well, key and shodow have like 20 files each while register and tmp have none other than the original README 16:36 tcohen jcamins, i cannot seem to find a real test for circulation, just syspref checks 16:36 jcamins That means that indexing failed. 16:36 jcamins tcohen: I can't say I'm surprised. :( 16:37 * jcamins goes out to run some errands. 16:38 reiveune bye 17:08 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1024: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1024/ 17:08 jenkins_koha tomascohen: Bug 9211 - days_between wrong behaviour 17:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9211 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , days_between wrong behaviour 17:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #1025 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1021 1 day 15 hr ago) 17:29 smeagol Hi all..question about bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8769 which is allowing backdating in the SIP Checkin module. The problem is that I am receiving a return date of "00/02/0" for everything checked-in...don't know why? Any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks. 17:29 huginn 04Bug 8769: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Allow SIP2 return backdating 17:30 tcohen druthb_away if you happen to apply current grub upgrades to translate.koha-communuty's host, please keep the current /etc/grub.d/10_linux file (its the default option when prompted). If you prefer that I do it just in case just let me know. The new version needs to be tweaked so it properly boots in our Xen's version. 17:31 tcohen that said, bye #koha! 17:32 gerundio how can I safely remove the data stored in a given subfield for every record? 17:33 gerundio I tried using http://search.cpan.org/~gmcharlt/MARC-Record-2.0.3/lib/MARC/Record.pm#delete_fields(_$field_) but the result wasn't quite what I expected 17:33 gerundio after saving the record, the whole thing it's just gone 17:34 gerundio trying to view it in the intranet interface shows me this message "The record you requested does not exist." 17:36 gmcharlt gerundio: could you paste the snippet of code you're using? 17:37 pastebot "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Remove subfield 610a code snippet" (23 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/364 17:38 gerundio gmcharlt, there you go 17:38 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Perry-Lecompton Community Library Joins NEKLS and Chooses ByWater Solutions’ Koha… http://t.co/L4PjdekV" 17:40 gerundio from the looks of it, the records in which I ran the script have the following value for tag 610 in the marcxml collumn: "<datafield tag="610" ind1=" " ind2=" "> 17:40 gerundio </datafield>" 17:41 gerundio just the tag and no subfield 17:41 gmcharlt gerundio: right, I was wondering 17:41 gmcharlt so, two things 17:41 jcamins_away gerundio: yeah, you have to delete the field if there are no subfields left. 17:41 gmcharlt there could be multiple 610 fields 17:41 gerundio so my thoughts are that I have to remove the whole field if it subfield is the only one 17:42 gmcharlt so you need to save the output of $record->field('610') in a list, then iterate over its MARC::Field records 17:42 gmcharlt then delete the subfield 17:42 gmcharlt see if there are any left ... and if not, delete the field from teh record 17:51 gerundio ok, sounds fair 17:51 gerundio gmcharlt++ thanks a lot, I'll try to work on that 17:52 gerundio as for the corrupted records now the best way to recover is importing the backup DB dump I've made before, right? 17:53 jcamins_away Probably, yes. 17:59 smeagol Anyone know why koha gives a return date of "00/02/0"..thanks. 18:00 jcamins_away smeagol: sounds like bad data. 18:00 jcamins_away Did you convert the checkout information from CSV using Excel? 18:10 jcamins_away [off] Paraphrased from the minutes of a cataloging committee meeting: "Problem with exporting to OCLC: 008 field disappearing" 18:10 smeagol No, i added code to some modules to allow SIP to see the return date during checkin routine, but getting back bad date conversion, for some reason. See http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8769 18:10 huginn 04Bug 8769: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Allow SIP2 return backdating 18:10 jcamins_away Hm. I've seen that 00/02/0 with data from Excel. 18:12 jcamins_away I'm not sure what would cause it with SIP. 18:13 jcamins_away So you're currently testing bug 8769? 18:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8769 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Allow SIP2 return backdating 18:13 jcamins_away What I'd suggest is commenting on the bug to explain what you're seeing (and set the status to "Failed QA"). Kyle can then troubleshoot the problem and submit a new patch. 18:13 smeagol yes, testing. it works, except for returning bad date 18:14 jcamins_away That's still a failure. 18:14 jcamins_away Much better to get it right before pushing the code into Koha. 18:15 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1025: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1025/ 18:15 jenkins_koha alex.arnaud: Bug 6835 - Ability to specify types of email address in overdue_notices.pl 18:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6835 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Master , Ability to specify types of email address in overdue_notices.pl 18:15 jenkins_koha Starting build #1026 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1021 1 day 17 hr ago) 18:15 jcamins_away Hm. 18:22 jcamins_away That's weird. 18:23 jcamins_away Did I somehow manage to merge in the wrong patches? 18:50 rangi My stop bbiab 18:55 drojf does unicode use non-numeric indicators? 18:55 drojf SELECT * FROM marc_indicators_values; has 0-9, a-z. 18:55 jcamins_away No, indicators are only ever numeric. 18:55 drojf that does not make any sense to me then 18:55 jcamins_away Nor me. 18:56 jcamins_away We can use non-numeric indicators locally. 18:56 drojf on the other hand, i don't see where that is used, apart from putting it in the db 19:05 jcamins_away Bug 9486 is ready for sign-off. 19:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9486 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , t/Letters.t loads modules in wrong order 19:05 jcamins_away If there are not two signoffs or a signoff and QA on it by the time I start struggling with my bowtie, I will revert bug 7243 for the moment. 19:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7243 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Do not take rentals as fines 19:07 rangi back 19:07 * rangi goes to sign off quickly! 19:13 rangi signed off, works just like it should 19:14 cait jcamins_away: when iwll you struggle with the bowtie? :) 19:14 jcamins_away cait: half an hour? 19:14 cait ew 19:14 cait are you leving yet? 19:14 jcamins_away The bowtie battle will probably take a while. 19:15 jcamins_away The meeting is at 6, so I need to leave in about two and a half hours. 19:17 jcamins_away Ooh, nice veggies! 19:18 rangi :) 19:21 cait that certainly sounds more like a battle than a struggle 19:21 jcamins_away cait: yeah, I'm not very good at bowties. 19:21 JoeLib001 Hello. :-) 19:22 cait hi JoeLib001 19:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1026: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1026/ 19:22 drojf rebasing-- 19:23 JoeLib001 Anyone know why I am getting < and >, etc instead of < or > when grabbing a record from Koha? 19:23 drojf i think i had errors in every file 19:24 rangi how are you grabbing the record? 19:25 JoeLib001 I am importing it to our TLC Catalog via Z39.50. I am guessing it's a Character Encoding issue, but I don't really know where to start. ;-) 19:25 rangi no thats not character encoding, thats html entities 19:26 rangi id look a that the record itself in the database 19:26 rangi the marcxml column anyway 19:26 JoeLib001 It shows up fine in Koha. 19:26 rangi it will 19:26 rangi cos its html, it renders fine, check in the db itself 19:26 rangi someone might have put html entities into the record 19:27 rangi instead of > or < 19:27 JoeLib001 That would be odd. Checking it. 19:27 cait JoeLib001: it's a bug 19:27 cait I have a fix for that... but I can't access it right now 19:27 cait grr. 19:28 cait it's some rewrite rule in the wrong order 19:28 JoeLib001 Ah, do you know what bug it is? Or is it not a reported one? 19:28 cait someone was trying to replace & 19:28 cait and now < gets to be &lt; 19:28 cait is that what you see in the soruce code? 19:28 rangi in the z3950 cait ? 19:28 cait hm we had it in the result list 19:28 cait sorry, .... doing too many things at once here maybe 19:29 rangi his problem is he is getting html entities in the record when he is retrieving it from zebra via Z3950 19:29 cait ok, I take it all back then... what I had was a problem in the result list 19:29 rangi so its most likely stored wrong in the db 19:29 rangi however it got stored wrong is either a bug or user error 19:29 rangi but it will display fine in html 19:30 drojf i found 'clone indicators' \o/ i still wonder if there is a hidden "default indicator' field i am missing or it really does not do that 19:30 rangi will look broken when you go to edit tho 19:30 rangi JoeLib001: have you tried that? editing a record? 19:30 rangi also, who is torturing you by making you use TLC? :-) 19:35 JoeLib001 Hehe. ;-) 19:36 JoeLib001 Hmm...., looks fine in the Koha Editor, but it shows up as <, etc when I open up the MySQL database. 19:37 JoeLib001 We switched to Koha for our Periodicals and Ordering, but are still using TLC for our Books. 19:38 JoeLib001 Could I have setup the Z39.50 Server incorrectly on the TLC side? 19:40 jcamins_away JoeLib001: more likely to me is that you need to get the entities out of the Koha database. 19:40 jwagner JoeLib001, I ran into this problem not long ago. To confirm, the ampersand characters show up after you retrieve a record FROM the Koha database using z39.50? 19:40 JoeLib001 Yes. 19:41 JoeLib001 Uhh...., well like >, etc. 19:41 JoeLib001 Instead of the character I was needing. 19:41 jwagner I narrowed it down to the action of exporting via z39.50. Records in Koha itself were fine, but when I used an external z39.50 client to connect and pull them out, the odd characters came instead 19:42 cait jcamins_away: passing qa with git-bz does not always work for me - it says it did on command line, but it didn't 19:42 JoeLib001 Hmm...., interesting. 19:42 wahanui interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad 19:42 JoeLib001 :-) 19:42 jwagner We studied the MARC before and after the actions, and it was the z39.50 outbound that caused the problem. 19:42 cait but bug 9486 19:42 wahanui bug 9486 is ready for sign-off. 19:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9486 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , t/Letters.t loads modules in wrong order 19:42 cait forget bug 9486 19:42 wahanui cait: I forgot bug 9486 19:43 jwagner Probably an encoding or translation problem somewhere in the outbound z39.50 code 19:43 JoeLib001 Ok, thanks. :-) 19:43 jcamins_away cait: hm, I never tired passing qa on something with git-bz. 19:43 cait it works - but not always 19:43 cait I haven't figured out the difference yet 19:43 cait but it failed the last 2 times 19:44 cait Updated bug status to 'Passed QA' on command line, but after refreshing the bug in firefox, it's still signed off 19:45 jcamins_away Well done. 19:45 jcamins_away I was just about to button the top button of my shirt to start battling the bowtie. 19:45 jcamins_away :) 19:48 rangi http://lanyrd.com/2013/wellington-firefox-os-app-day/schedule/ <-- what im doing tomorrow 19:49 cait nice! 19:49 ryansipes Hello all! 19:50 rangi JoeLib001: there is nothing koha specific in the outbound Z3950 that is totally zebra, so if zebra is converting things to html entities, then we have a much bigger problem (as would library of congress et al who use yaz-proxy) so id look first at the data, next at the routines that export the data to be indexed with zebra 19:50 rangi JoeLib001: and yes if it is entities in the database, there is the problem right there 19:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #1027 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1021 1 day 18 hr ago) 19:51 JoeLib001 Ok. 19:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9486' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=03b7c9f8b96cb995121b9ff80a531475f7317a8e> / Bug 9486: t/Letters.t loads modules in wrong order <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2189b88bb1d2cfeb5cbe7cf3c08f61dc4e98a1c7> 19:52 JoeLib001 Could it be as simple as me not importing it with the right character set? 19:53 jcamins_away Okay... there was a video on youtube by a little old German man which made bowtie tying make sense. 19:53 rangi its not an encoding thing JoeLib001 .. ie not a character set thing 19:53 JoeLib001 Ok 19:53 rangi JoeLib001: if you edit a record and save it .. ie, type over the char and put < 19:53 rangi does it still show up as an entity in the db? 19:53 jwagner JoeLib001, you may have different data or processes. But when I was testing, the MARC data within Koha was clean. Doing a Tools, bib export produced a clean record. 19:53 rangi < 19:54 jwagner But connecting via z39.50 and pulling that same record produced a corrupted one. 19:54 jwagner Using the same z39.50 client to connect to another source, and pulling the same title, produced a clean record 19:54 JoeLib001 Hmm.... 19:54 jwagner Our problem was specific to the outbound z39.50. 19:55 jwagner The corrupted data was not in the Koha tables 19:55 rangi that sounds like a different thing, as JoeLib001 can see the entities in the db 19:55 jcamins_away Argh! 19:55 jcamins_away Both ends are on the same side! 19:56 jwagner Yeah, I'm not sure he has exactly the same problem, but it sounded similar. I'd suggest testing -- if you do a Tools, bib export and a z39.50, do both have the bad data? 19:57 JoeLib001 Hmm...., I am looking at the marcxml file, so shouldn't those be in there as &, etc... 19:58 jwagner We didn't see the bad characters either place, so far as I know (I'm not our data expert) 19:58 jwagner They only showed up after the z39.50 export 19:58 jcamins_away Well, I managed to tie it. 19:58 jcamins_away Badly. 19:58 wizzyrea \o/ winning 19:58 wizzyrea ...sortof 19:58 jcamins_away lol 19:58 JoeLib001 Hehe. ;-) 19:59 JoeLib001 Why are you trying to tie a bowtie? I am pretty sure it's only females that have that kind of natural dexterity. ;-) 20:00 wizzyrea HA 20:00 jcamins_away LOL! 20:00 wizzyrea oh that made me laugh. 20:02 jcamins_away Better... 20:02 * magnuse wishes jcamins_away a good holiday! 20:04 jcamins_away Alas, one cannot wear a purple bowtie and red vest, can one? 20:05 wizzyrea well... 20:05 wizzyrea that kind of depends on the shade of purple and the shade of red 20:05 wizzyrea but overall, that sort of says "clown" to me. 20:05 * jcamins_away has a limited number of formal vests and bowties. 20:05 jcamins_away In fact, one of each. 20:05 jcamins_away Well, two of each. 20:05 wizzyrea hm. 20:05 JoeLib001 Where are the Logs 20:05 wahanui the Logs are at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/ 20:05 jcamins_away The other in both cases are black. 20:06 jcamins_away I could also wear a cumberbund. 20:06 wizzyrea you could do purple and black 20:06 wizzyrea or red and black 20:06 wizzyrea but probably not red and purple 20:06 jcamins_away Yeah, that was my thought. 20:06 wizzyrea but again it would depend on the shade. :P 20:08 jcamins_away I look so dumb in a cumberbund. 20:08 cait so why do yo uwant to wear one? 20:08 jcamins_away I don't. 20:08 jcamins_away I wasn't sure. 20:08 rangi and a rasperry beret 20:08 wizzyrea what, 80's pop friday again? 20:08 jcamins_away lol 20:09 rangi JoeLib001: are you running from packages or tarball install? 20:09 wizzyrea maybe we should go for 90's 20:09 JoeLib001 Packages 20:09 wahanui somebody said Packages was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 20:09 rangi /var/log/koha/instance_name/ 20:09 JoeLib001 Ah, sorry. I was looking for Wahanui's answer. ;-) 20:10 rangi oh irc logs? 20:10 wahanui irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ 20:10 JoeLib001 Yeah 20:10 JoeLib001 I'm not so sure I can get my brain around the whole problem today. Only have 1 hour left at work. ;-) 20:10 rangi http://grooveshark.com/#!/playlist/Friday+Morning+Wake+Up/57239977 <-- not 80's 20:11 wizzyrea Ah! that's a fantastic playlist. 20:11 wizzyrea srs. 20:11 jcamins_away ... 20:11 jcamins_away I look like the MC in Cabaret. 20:11 jcamins_away Well, minus the makeup. 20:12 wizzyrea pic or it didn't happen. 20:12 jcamins_away wizzyrea: that would be a good thing. 20:12 jcamins_away I think after all that work on the tie, I need to change. 20:14 wizzyrea I just got a question "(can koha) make it so that when a patron checks out or checks in a book, they are emailed a list of recommendations based on that book" 20:14 jcamins_away No. 20:14 wizzyrea i'm wondering if other ILS's do this, I think it's kind of a fab idea. 20:15 wizzyrea no no I know it doesn't do that. 20:15 wizzyrea ;) 20:15 rangi easy to add 20:16 rangi we do recomendations already 20:16 wizzyrea ! I think I missed that... 20:16 wizzyrea where are they? 20:16 wahanui they are still working on it... 20:16 wizzyrea forget where are they? 20:16 wahanui they are still working on it... 20:16 wizzyrea forget where are they 20:16 wahanui they are still working on it... 20:16 wizzyrea lol 20:18 jcamins_away forget they 20:18 wahanui jcamins_away: I forgot they 20:18 magnuse rangi: is that code in koha? 20:19 wizzyrea yea, that's actually what I was wondering 20:19 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6772 20:19 huginn 04Bug 6772: enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Failed QA , Implementation of a recommendations engine 20:19 jcamins_away Okay, black vest is out. 20:19 wizzyrea I don't think I've ever seen it 20:19 magnuse for the recommendations, i mean 20:19 wizzyrea OH 20:19 jcamins_away There were privacy concerns. 20:19 magnuse ouch 20:19 wizzyrea curses. 20:19 rangi naw not privacy 20:19 rangi just speed 20:19 magnuse but it's in production for hlt, i think? 20:19 rangi there is no way to link 20:19 rangi a recommendation back to the person who read it 20:20 rangi its just biblionumber , biblionumber, count 20:22 rangi it just needs a timestamp value, so it can know when it was last updated and only look at issues since that point 20:22 rangi so the first run is slow, to generate the base, but then if you run it nightly it only updates for that days circ 20:23 jcamins_away Okay, this is better. 20:23 jcamins_away I just have to pin the vest. 20:24 jcamins_away And hope that it's not traditional to take one's jacket off at dinner... 20:26 jcamins_away I think I'm going to need a lot of pins... 20:27 * magnuse thought jcamins_away was going on holiday 20:27 jcamins_away Tomorrow. 20:27 wahanui well, tomorrow is pizza friday! or the day after today. 20:27 jcamins_away Today I am going to a black tie dinner. 20:27 magnuse ah, didn't sound much like a holiday 20:27 magnuse yay for pizza friday! 20:28 magnuse rangi: is it the "similar items" tab here? http://library.org.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=1624 20:29 magnuse or is that librarything for libraries? 20:29 rangi naw thats library thing for libraries 20:29 magnuse ah 20:30 rangi its currently off on hlt, will be back on when they are on 3.8.x 20:30 magnuse ah, cool 20:33 magnuse heh, guess eythian never found the time - last comment is from 2011-10-06 20:33 magnuse cest la vie (or something similar) 20:37 eythian magnuse: yeah, that happens a bit too much :/ 20:37 eythian patches welcome ;) 20:40 jcamins_away Good news. 20:40 wahanui good news is it looks like it's running properly. 20:40 jcamins_away No one will be able to shoot me in the back, as my vest is made of kevlar. 20:40 magnuse yay! 20:40 magnuse we don't want to loose our rm! ;-) 20:40 jcamins_away Unfortunately, it is also deflecting all the pins I am trying to put in. 20:40 magnuse eythian: :-) 20:41 eythian stabproof best, eh 20:41 eythian *vest 20:41 magnuse stabproof is best 20:41 magnuse stabproof? 20:41 wahanui hmmm... stabproof is best 20:41 * wizzyrea giggles 20:41 magnuse yup, told you so! 20:41 rangi oh magnuse did i show you this 20:41 rangi wahanui: we should use more MARC 20:41 wahanui http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/01-how-about-no-bear.jpg?w=800 20:42 magnuse oh before i forget again eythian: eny news on the funding for the "covers from multiple sources" thing? 20:42 eythian no news, it's really kathryn who is tracking it, and she's away at the moment 20:42 magnuse hehe rangi, yeah, i have seen it ;-) excellent! 20:42 magnuse eythian: okelydokely! 20:43 alohabot Hi mib_zc22uq, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 20:43 magnuse alohabot++ 20:43 mib_zc22uq hi! I am using: Koha version: 3.08.01.002 20:44 rangi oh, thats a pretty old and buggy version .. sorry to say 20:44 jcamins_away That version has a lot of bugs, including some security issues. 20:44 mib_zc22uq should I update to 3.8.8 or 3.10.1? 20:44 jcamins_away You should think about upgrading to 3.8.8. 20:44 rangi 3.8.9 is out 20:44 rangi so is 3.10.2 20:44 rangi but id go to 3.8.9 for now 20:45 jcamins_away I meant 3.8.9. 20:45 mib_zc22uq then first 3.8.9 and after that 3.10.2? 20:45 * jcamins_away would recommend 3.8.9, and upgrade to 3.10.x around 3.10.4. 20:46 mib_zc22uq 3.10.x is the "unstable " branch? 20:46 JoeLib001 Thanks for the help guys, I will poke at it a little longer and then go home. ;-) Probably will end up working on it next week. 20:46 jcamins_away 3.10.x is the "less stable than 3.8.x" branch. 20:47 jcamins_away It _is_ being used in production. 20:47 jcamins_away Just not by me. 20:48 * magnuse would use it if it weren't for bug 9256 20:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 20:49 * rangi refrains from commenting :) 20:49 magnuse :-) 20:50 magnuse rangi: try google translate on this if you want to know more about burning norwegian cheese: http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/nordland/1.10884826 20:50 rangi :) 20:51 jcamins_away Good news! 20:51 wahanui i heard good news was it looks like it's running properly. 20:51 jcamins_away I no longer look like the MC from Cabaret. 20:51 cait you found a matching vest and bowtie? 20:51 jcamins_away Well, not much. 20:53 jcamins_away Unfortunately, I can't keep this bowtie straight. 20:53 jcamins_away And, actually, it still isn't pinned enough. 20:55 jcamins_away ("it" = the vest) 20:55 wizzyrea maybe perhaps the vest does not fit if it requires so many pins 20:55 wizzyrea just sayin. 20:55 jcamins_away wizzyrea: of course it doesn't. 20:55 wizzyrea oh. 20:55 wizzyrea well at least you know that 20:57 jcamins_away However, I haven't gotten to the point where I can sew my own vests, so I'll have to pin small vests for the moment. :) 20:57 wizzyrea :) 20:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1027: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1027/ 20:57 jenkins_koha Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9486: t/Letters.t loads modules in wrong order 20:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9486 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , t/Letters.t loads modules in wrong order 20:58 magnuse unstable, eh? 20:58 jcamins_away Okay, build is fixed for tomorrow. 20:58 jcamins_away magnuse: yeah, jenkins has been throttled. 20:58 magnuse poor jenkins 20:59 cait jcamins_away: have fun at your dinner thing :) 21:00 jcamins_away Thanks. 21:19 * cait puts her QAM hat on 21:19 * wizzyrea imagines that it has feathers 21:20 magnuse and a really wide brim 21:21 wizzyrea http://0.tqn.com/d/diyfashion/1/0/L/h/-/-/Princess-Beatrice-Hat-02.jpg 21:21 magnuse heh 21:21 jcamins_away lol 21:22 cait jcamins_away: isn'T BUG 9485 in 3.10? 21:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9485 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Short cut to create new authorities 21:22 cait search, don't find, click new? 21:22 jcamins_away Only from cataloging. 21:23 cait ah 21:23 jcamins_away I can't think of a use case for a general authority search leading to creating an authority. 21:23 wizzyrea erm, one not found? 21:23 jcamins_away wizzyrea: authorities are pretty useless on their own... 21:24 jcamins_away You can't _do_ anything from an authority record. 21:24 eythian wahanui: qam is quadrature amplitude modulation, commonly used in dialup modems. Or it's cait. 21:24 wahanui ...but qam is the big one IMHO or sekjal... 21:24 eythian wahanui: qam is also quadrature amplitude modulation, commonly used in dialup modems. Or it's cait. 21:24 wahanui okay, eythian. 21:25 wizzyrea i like the word "quadrature" 21:25 cait qam? 21:25 wahanui hmmm... qam is the big one IMHO or sekjal 21:25 cait ts. 21:25 eythian qam? 21:25 wahanui hmmm... qam is the big one IMHO or sekjal 21:25 eythian qam? 21:25 wahanui somebody said qam was the big one IMHO or sekjal 21:25 eythian qam? 21:25 wahanui qam is the big one IMHO or sekjal 21:25 eythian qam? 21:25 wahanui qam is probably quadrature amplitude modulation, commonly used in dialup modems. Or it's cait. 21:25 cait wahanui: no cookies for you tonight .... think better about your answers next time :P 21:25 wahanui cait: huh? 21:25 wizzyrea you tell that bot who's boss 21:25 magnuse wizzyrea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kvadraturen 21:26 cait @quote random 21:26 huginn cait: Quote #143: "rhcl: Blame the C coders; if it was written in Ada it would have exception handling." (added by wizzyrea at 09:51 PM, June 28, 2011) 21:26 cait @quote random 21:26 huginn cait: Quote #156: "druthb: I would feed wahanui a botsnack of windows 8 engineers, but they're full of fluff and not very filling. trea: like marshmallow peeps, with clip on ties." (added by wizzyrea at 02:09 PM, September 22, 2011) 21:26 wizzyrea one of the things I value most about this channel is the absolutely strange things I learn every day from you guys. 21:26 cait lol 21:26 trea heh 21:26 druthb lulz 21:27 eythian germs? 21:27 wahanui hmmm... germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg 21:27 eythian germs? 21:27 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 21:27 magnuse true! 21:27 eythian facts like that! 21:27 magnuse and kia ora trea! 21:27 druthb @quote random 21:27 huginn druthb: Quote #92: "<schuster> Why even learn when there is a genius in the room..." (added by jwagner at 01:43 PM, August 27, 2010) 21:27 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 21:27 wizzyrea loool 21:27 * trea waves to magnuse! 21:27 cait eythian: guess you can call yourself lucky you survived your trip to Konstanz 21:28 cait with all the germs 21:28 magnuse huginn++ for serving relevant quotes 21:28 huginn magnuse: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 21:28 eythian it's true! 21:28 cait bug 8292 sounds like a holds expert should take a look at it 21:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8292 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , clicking ignore on hold cancels transfer 21:29 * wizzyrea suspects you are looking southward. 21:29 cait if you are southward... 21:29 wizzyrea I am :) 21:29 cait ok, southward it is :) 21:30 cait I am not sure I understand nicole's description 21:30 cait well... quite sure I don#t 21:30 wizzyrea I know exactly what she's talking about 21:30 cait hm 21:30 wizzyrea I have experienced that bug. 21:30 cait i would expect ignore to do nothing actually 21:30 cait preserve the hold 21:30 magnuse wow writing a test plan for bug 9213 is worse than writing the patch 21:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9213 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Implement analytics for NORMARC XSLT 21:31 cait wizzyrea: what if I check in and don't wnt it to return home? 21:32 cait like... oh, what's that book doing on the desk.. let's check it in and see.. .whoops? 21:32 wizzyrea yea, status checking should not be done with check in. :( 21:32 wizzyrea the people at NEKLS always wanted a "check status" scanbox 21:33 wizzyrea but i'm like, just search for the barcode 21:33 wizzyrea and look there. 21:33 wahanui it has been said that look there is :) 21:33 cait hm 21:33 cait why don't we have a button: transfer home 21:33 jcamins_away wizzyrea: checking items in is standard behavior for checking statuses in a lot of places. 21:33 cait and an ignore one that does nothing? 21:33 wizzyrea we do, in transfers. 21:33 cait yeah, what jcamins_away said (for me) 21:34 wizzyrea i know, but you can't expect koha to know what you're trying to do 21:34 cait no, but I can make it ask me :) 21:34 wizzyrea well ok, the behaviour you are talking about, it really should depend on the syspref 21:34 wizzyrea automaticitemreturn 21:34 wahanui i guess automaticitemreturn is enabled 21:34 wizzyrea I think 21:35 wizzyrea if that is off, it should not send it home 21:35 wizzyrea if it is on, it should always send it home (because that's what would happen if you just checked the item in) 21:36 cait hm 21:36 * jcamins_away didn't read the bug. 21:36 cait wizzyrea: could you put a note on the bug maybe? 21:36 jcamins_away But I do think if we're eliminating the option to not transfer items, that's a problem. 21:36 cait still trying to wrap my head around it 21:36 cait jcamins_away: that was my thought 21:37 cait i think ignore shoudl do nothing 21:37 cait and we should have a separate button "proceed with return" 21:37 cait well, phrased nicer 21:38 cait but... I don't know, I might forget something and I have no libraries doing reserves between each other 21:38 wizzyrea nah, it should obey automaticitemreturn 21:38 wizzyrea that's the expected behavior 21:38 cait hm yeah if you return 21:38 jcamins_away Okay, time to go to dinner. So long, #koha. 21:38 cait but what if I don't want to return and not trigger the hold? 21:38 jcamins_away Have a good week and a half if I'm not around. 21:38 cait ah, not around tomorrow? 21:39 wizzyrea later jcamins_away have a good dinner :) 21:39 rangi cya jcamins_away 21:39 cait cya :) 21:39 wizzyrea and a good week.5 off 21:39 wizzyrea cait: in truth, I don't see that happening really- if a library wants the items to always go home, they will set automaticitemreturn 21:39 wizzyrea if they don't, they won't 21:39 cait yep 21:39 cait I can see that :) 21:39 wizzyrea if there is an isolated case 21:39 cait but I wonder if it's the scope of the bug 21:39 wizzyrea that's a human problem 21:40 cait I think the problem is: what happens if you click on ignore 21:40 wizzyrea if you click ignore, and it's an incoming transfer, it should go home if automaticitemreturn is set 21:40 cait hm ok 21:40 wizzyrea if you click ignore, and AIR isn't set, it should just do nothing 21:40 cait i will test that 21:40 cait and listen to the holds expert :) 21:40 wizzyrea but I do not know if that is how it is supposed to work 21:41 wizzyrea the patch, I mean 21:41 wizzyrea I will try to test that todya 21:41 wizzyrea today* 21:41 cait i think it just changes the behaviour of the ignore button 21:41 cait and still not sure if I am happy with htat 21:41 wizzyrea well it needs to be tested against AIRE 21:41 wizzyrea AIR 21:41 cait I think it doesn't touch that 21:41 cait only touches what happens when you click ignore 21:42 wizzyrea well the ignore behavior depends on AIR I thinik 21:42 wizzyrea so if they are overriding that, it would be not good 21:46 cait wizzyrea: I see what's happening now. hm. 21:47 cait I ownder if changing this behaviour will be a bad surprise for libraries? 21:47 cait or is it really just a bug fix 21:47 wizzyrea well the bug is irritating 21:47 wizzyrea as long as it obeys AIR, it'll be ok 21:47 cait I think the problem is, that you click ignore and it shows up in the check-in items list 21:48 wizzyrea the items get sort of stuck 21:48 wizzyrea as it stands. 21:48 cait hm yeah 21:48 cait and I htink 4 options would probably be a bit overwhelming 21:48 wizzyrea well it was checked in 21:48 wizzyrea you just didn't do anything with the hold 21:48 cait oh right 21:48 wizzyrea and if it needs to be sent home, it should go 21:48 wizzyrea or if they don't require that, then it should not be 21:48 wizzyrea we have AIR just for that purpose, I think 21:48 cait what about I accidentally click ignore 21:49 cait can I get it back? 21:49 * cait tries that 21:49 wizzyrea the hold? 21:49 wizzyrea probably? 21:49 cait but first applying the patch :) 21:49 wizzyrea ha :) 21:49 cait testing wihout first :) 21:49 wizzyrea right 21:49 wizzyrea also you should see how it works with automaticitemreturn 21:49 wizzyrea on and off 21:49 wizzyrea that sucks and adds work 21:50 cait hm? 21:50 wizzyrea but probably needs to be tested 21:50 wizzyrea cait - I will try to look at this this afternoon 21:50 cait got a transfer slip 21:51 cait hmmm 21:51 cait I have automaticitemreturn off now 21:51 cait after i sent it home 21:51 cait and checked it in again 21:51 cait now I got 2 boxes 21:51 wizzyrea yep 21:51 wizzyrea that's normal 21:51 cait sending home or confirming hold 21:51 cait good then :) 21:52 cait so it always asks when you have air off? 21:52 wizzyrea no 21:52 wizzyrea you need to use a different book, or clear out your transfers 21:52 wizzyrea to test with the AIR off 21:52 cait k 21:52 wizzyrea because you will not get clean results 21:52 wizzyrea if there are transits in progress 21:53 cait ok 21:53 cait I think I did it 21:53 cait I got a different question now 21:53 cait how confusing. 21:55 cait it seems the difference iwth air on/off is 21:55 cait on: just get a link to print the transfer slip, can't say yes or no 21:55 cait off: get yes, no and yes, print slip links 21:56 cait so that looks right with the patch 21:56 cait I think? 21:57 wizzyrea that seems right - I think I'd have to see it to be sure 21:58 cait yeah makes sense :) 22:00 rangi new playlist time http://grooveshark.com/#!/playlist/NZ+Mix+1/9500909 22:00 cait rangi: you are being mean 22:01 wizzyrea I approve of this 22:01 cait wizzyrea: I think I am passing QA on it - as it does what it says it does. but if you want to veto - you can do that anytime :) 22:01 wizzyrea I will check it, holds are tricky. 22:08 cait wizzyrea++ # for being patient with me :) 22:09 rangi shes gone picnicking 22:09 cait oh nice :) 22:10 cait she deserves a picknick 22:10 cait picnic? 22:10 eythian the latter 22:11 cait thx 22:12 libsysguy after cloning and pushing the koha repo im convinced we need to do some pruning :p 22:13 eythian it's not something that you have to do very often though 22:13 eythian that said, perhaps a gc wouldn't hurt if it hasn't been done in a while 22:17 magnuse cait++ wizzyrea++ 22:17 magnuse here's a fun fact for you fine free software fanatics: the organization in norway that handles electronic payments for most of the banks is big on free software, so most times when you pay online to a norwegian shop you will be taken through several steps and redirects and for a few moments you can see the freebsd "demon" mascot in your url bar in your browser :-) i wonder if that ever scared anyone... 22:19 rangi heh 22:21 magnuse oh no, have i been hacked? are the pirates taking control of my computer? 22:34 magnuse cait++ for being a good qam 22:35 * magnuse wishes #koha a good night or other time of the day 22:36 cait good night magnuse :) 22:36 * cait seconds magnus' wishes and wanders off too 22:37 eythian wahanui: pony is <reply>http://uber.geek.nz/pony.jpg 22:37 wahanui ...but pony is <reply>$who wants a pony! Someone give them a pony.... 22:37 eythian no wahanui, pony is <reply>http://uber.geek.nz/pony.jpg 22:37 wahanui okay, eythian. 22:38 Dyrcona pony? 22:38 wahanui http://uber.geek.nz/pony.jpg 22:38 Dyrcona heh 22:40 Dyrcona Turns out that it isn't a good idea to document a shell script with POD. 22:41 eythian haha