Time Nick Message
00:06 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @nzkoha: "And the 200th #Kohails developer is...@coreyfromaotea, about 90km south of where it all began."
00:09 rambutan wahenui: meeting?
00:09 wahanui i guess meeting is over?
00:20 rangi what meeting?
00:20 wahanui it has been said that meeting is over?
00:22 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @wizzyrea: "#199 and #200 in the same day for #kohails - 199 doesn't have a twitter name though. Congratulations all the same!"
00:25 rambutan just wondering when the next meeting might be
00:25 rangi ahh
00:26 rangi feb 7
00:27 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings
00:27 rambutan that's too much work. I wanted to just ask wahenui
00:27 gmcharlt not to be confused with the sort of meeting that sneaks up on one
00:39 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @wizzyrea: "#200 and #199 plot their next move for #kohails http://t.co/JYPhQRyR"
00:39 rangi thats a good photo
00:39 rangi even if it was taken in 1976
00:39 jcamins_away lol
00:40 rangi instagram always makes me think that :)
00:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1012: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1012/
00:40 jenkins_koha * hugh: Bug 9062 Fix format for discount rate for vendors
00:40 jenkins_koha * hugh: Bug 9062 Fix spacing next to tax rate
00:40 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add Hugh Davenport to history
00:40 jenkins_koha * agent.075: Bug 9179 - Incorrect capitalization in serials-collection.pl
00:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9062 trivial, P5 - low, ---, hugh, Pushed to Master , Tax and discount should be formatted the same
00:40 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add Corey Fuimaono to history
00:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9179 trivial, P5 - low, ---, agent.075, Pushed to Master , Incorrect capitalization in serials-collection.pl
00:47 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @wizzyrea: "@CatalystAcademy our student learned bootstrap and started making Koha beautiful and accessible #kohails"
00:48 rambutan Now I had to stop and think about this.
00:48 rambutan "http://t.co/JYPhQRyR"
00:48 rambutan "<rangi> thats a good photo even if it was taken in 1976"
00:49 rambutan and I look at the photo, and that's a mighty nice laptop for 1976, so I sniff around...
00:49 rambutan and wikipedia says: "What was probably the first portable computer was the Xerox NoteTaker, again developed at Xerox PARC, in 1976. However, only 10 prototypes were built."
00:50 rangi heh
01:46 MrAgent075 Woot! xD
01:49 jcamins_away You know, the "Please install basic configuration settings" bit in the webinstaller makes no sense at all.
01:51 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @anitsirk: ". @coreyfromaotea worked on #kohails and bottstrapped it. he is also committer #200 to the project now."
01:58 rangi 201!!
01:58 jcamins_away Yup!
01:59 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @anitsirk: "the changes that @coreyfromaotea made to #kohails during #flossac improve accessibility."
02:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #1013 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:05 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9398' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=76a279ae68d8b5a3cff7accfe0c703c37882eeb5> / Bug 9398 - [ ? ] Link Lacks Context for All General Users (Accessibility) [Contexual... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=64a6f9a9775b539b69512a6b04544a74fdf11a62> / Merge branch 'bug_8401' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?
02:07 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ranginui: "and just like that #kohails gets its 201st committer beating my 200 by the end of january prediction"
02:08 jcamins_away rangi: bug 9376.
02:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9376 minor, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Passed QA , Problem with dateexpiry display in moremember.tt
02:08 rangi right im off to upper hutt now, and then to wings over wairarapa tomorrow
02:08 jcamins_away Wait!
02:08 rangi hmm?
02:08 jcamins_away My inclination is to push it to master because the HTML is wrong, even though it's not visible in master.
02:08 jcamins_away Good reasoning?
02:09 rangi seems fine to me
02:09 jcamins_away Thanks.
02:09 jcamins_away Okay, so long.
02:15 jcamins_away Well, bug 9310 might be difficult to test.
02:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9310 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Patron image upload template corrections
02:31 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @_cjh: "Had an awesome week working with @coreyfromaotea & @wizzyrea on #kohails & accessibility at the @CatalystAcademy"
03:05 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9108' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=243cfbe7cebb8f90225a4b72f7ffb63c3f9b8ca0> / Bug 9108: Followup: send the dateformat value from C4::Auth <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a469663d7b0993894582759235c2475f662c8da4> / Bug 9108 - Add uk/euro date sort filter to pages which require it <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k
03:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1013: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1013/
03:11 jenkins_koha * gmc: Bug 9413: fix sample notice SQL for en
03:11 jenkins_koha * fred.pierre: Bug 8401 : Highlighting of search terms in preference causes loss of data
03:11 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add Fred Pierre to history
03:11 jenkins_koha * agent.075: Bug 9398 - [ ? ] Link Lacks Context for All General Users (Accessibility) [Contexual Help]
03:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9413 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Renewal notice features breaks English installer
03:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8401 critical, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Search term deleted from system preference content
03:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9398 trivial, P5 - low, ---, agent.075, Pushed to Master , [ ? ] Link Lacks Context for All General Users (Accessibility) [Contexual Help]
03:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #1014 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9276' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=af85488ee872c3271f4fa7cc46a3213bf83a3234> / Bug 9276 - Display of biblio-level auth vals on OPAC search broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2e8b2b4fda8a5aa102bb1fdb78046397f674a0f>
04:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1014: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1014/
04:17 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 9229 - branch code instead of name in subscription-detail.pl
04:17 jenkins_koha * vfernandes: Bug 9376: Problem with dateexpiry display in moremember.tt
04:17 jenkins_koha * gmc: Bug 9376: extend HTML fix to moremember-brief.tt
04:17 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9147: OPAC hidden fields are not hidden in ISBD view
04:17 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 9310 - Patron image upload template corrections
04:17 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 9108 - Add uk/euro date sort filter to pages which require it
04:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9229 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , branch code instead of name in subscription-detail.pl
04:17 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9108: Followup: send the dateformat value from C4::Auth
04:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9376 minor, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Problem with dateexpiry display in moremember.tt
04:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9147 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , OPAC hidden fields are not hidden in ISBD view
04:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9310 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Patron image upload template corrections
04:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9108 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add uk/euro date sort filter to pages which require it
04:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #1015 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
04:50 vkm hello all
04:51 vkm may i know the location of patron image file in koha
05:01 mtj afaik, its in a table, in the database
05:02 mtj … not sure which table, or column tho :/
05:05 mtj http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/patronimage.html
05:06 mtj patronimage.imagefile
05:06 vkm ok
05:07 mtj …just look at the database schema, like i just did :)
05:08 mtj schema?
05:08 wahanui schema is tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org
05:11 vkm i used 3.6.4 live cd for production porpose and installed it on IBM server which works fine, now i have made my own live cd with 3.8.8 ubuntu package installation and made live cd with many customization can i transfer it own live server
05:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1015: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1015/
05:22 jenkins_koha oleonard: Bug 9276 - Display of biblio-level auth vals on OPAC search broken
05:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9276 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Display of biblio-level authorized values on OPAC search results broken
05:23 jenkins_koha Starting build #1016 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
05:23 mtj vkm, sorry - i do not undersand your question?
05:25 mtj you want to upgrade your production 3.6.4 koha, to a 3.8.8 koha… with many customizations?
05:27 vkm no i have made live cd of 3.8.8 can i use it on server by reinstalling and restoring the backup of 3.6.4
05:30 vkm i have cutomized 3.8.8 in the same way as i done in 3.6.4 so after testing i just want to replace 3.6.4 from the server and want to install 3.8.8 and restore the database of 3.6.4
05:31 mtj ok
05:31 mtj yes, you can do that :)
05:32 vkm thx
05:36 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @wizzyrea: ""@_cjh: Had an awesome week working with @coreyfromaotea & @wizzyrea on #kohails & accessibility at the @CatalystAcademy" me too!"
05:38 mtj vkm, its just a very simple koha db upgrade
05:40 mtj load your 3.6 koha.sql file into your 3.8 system, and hit http://yourkoha.com:8080 to start the upgrade
05:42 mtj then… have a beer and pizza :p
05:56 vkm did everything except real installation and beer/pizza
06:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1016: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1016/
07:25 * magnuse waves
07:35 alex_a_ Bonjour !
07:35 magnuse kia ora alex_a_
07:35 alex_a_ hello magnuse
07:36 alex_a_ @wunder boo
07:36 huginn alex_a_: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
07:36 alex_a_ What ?
07:36 alex_a_ @wunder rrs
07:36 huginn alex_a_: The current temperature in Roros Lufthavn, Norway is -29.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -32.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
07:36 alex_a_ Wooo cold today !
07:37 magnuse they had -34 during the night :-)
07:37 reiveune hello
07:37 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:37 wahanui hello, reiveune
07:37 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -2.0°C (8:30 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
07:37 cait good morning :)
07:37 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:37 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -6.6°C (8:35 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
07:37 cait yikes
07:37 magnuse hah, 5 degrees warmer in bodø than in marseille!
07:38 cait and lots warmer than here...
07:38 magnuse 9.6 degrees warmer than Konstanz
07:38 cait and of course, i am travelling today
07:38 cait yay
07:38 reiveune hi cait, magnuse, yes it's cold in Marseille today ;)
07:39 magnuse and houses in marseille are probably not built for that?
07:39 magnuse any snow?
07:40 cait yep
07:40 cait lots of snow
07:40 reiveune magnuse: Unfortunately, you're right (for the houses) but no snow
07:40 cait oh, snow in Konstanz I mean
07:40 reiveune ha ok :)
07:41 alex_a_ There was snow yesterday in Aix en Provence which is about 20km at the north of marseille
07:42 magnuse ah, ski-weekend in Aix it is, then!
07:42 reiveune haha
07:46 alex_a_ lol
07:51 cait :)
07:51 cait ook.... I have to go out there now....
07:51 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:51 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -6.7°C (8:45 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
07:51 cait brrrr.
07:51 cait hope to be back later :)
08:06 francharb good morning #koha
08:28 magnuse bonjour biblibre :-)
08:28 paul_p good morning everybody
08:29 gaetan_B hello
08:29 wahanui hola, gaetan_B
08:32 magnuse cold office in rue breteuil today?
08:34 paul_p magnuse = it's really very cold in Marseille those days. With a lot of "mistral" (our wind).
08:34 paul_p @wunder marseille
08:34 huginn paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -2.0°C (9:00 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
08:34 paul_p @wunder bodo
08:34 huginn paul_p: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (9:20 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
08:34 magnuse mohahaha :-)
08:34 paul_p It's colder in Marseille !!!!!
08:34 magnuse :-)
08:35 paul_p OK, I take a plane, i'll be here tomorrow ;-)
08:35 magnuse is the mistral the kind of wind that drives people crazy?
08:35 magnuse paul_p: you're welcome!
08:35 paul_p magnuse well, there's mistral very often, so I don't think it drives ppl crazy.
08:36 * magnuse seems to remember something about a wind that drives people crazy from some movie
08:36 magnuse "manon et la source" or something?
08:36 paul_p "manon des sources". from Marcel Pagnol.
08:36 magnuse ah yes
08:37 magnuse just make sure the cole weather is finnished in time for the hackfest, ok?
08:37 paul_p OK, I see what you mean. It's a part of "provence tradition" Marcel pagnol & marseille accent. But here we don't say mistral makes us crazy ;-)
08:37 magnuse maybe because you are all crazy already? ;-)
08:37 paul_p magnuse there are unproved rumors saying it last 3,5 or 9 days (and never 2, 4, 6, 7,8,...)
08:38 magnuse cool :-)
08:38 paul_p magnuse for sure, ppl from Marseille are all crazy, that's a well known fact :o)
08:38 magnuse hehe
08:39 paul_p magnuse in France, for exemple, we often speak of "sardines that clogged the port", for example. And many many things about marseille ppl exagerating.
08:40 magnuse lol
08:40 paul_p "I have sinned a sardine that weighted 3kg"
08:40 paul_p (think Tartarin de tarascon -tarascon is close to marseille)
08:40 magnuse hehe, fish seems to inspire exageration in people :-)
09:02 cait-m_ hello
09:02 cait-m_ @wunder konstanz
09:02 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -5.2°C (10:00 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
09:09 magnuse cait-m_: getting warmer! :-)
09:14 cait-m_ hmpf
09:39 magnuse @wunder berlin, germany
09:39 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -1.9°C (10:13 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
09:39 magnuse @wunder boo
09:39 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
09:39 magnuse moahaha
09:42 drojf lol magnuse
09:43 drojf norwegian summer? ;)
09:44 magnuse yup!
09:44 magnuse :-)
10:04 vfernandes hello
10:43 slef heh... anyone like to tell me how one should treat & in alphabetic sorting?
10:44 slef do we ignore &, regard & as its own letter or regard it as "and"?
10:44 slef (if its own letter, I think it's usually sorted after z...)
10:49 slef wahanui: coding guidelines?
10:49 wahanui coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines
10:55 slef Changes submitted for bug 9418
10:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9418 trivial, P5 - low, ---, vfernandes, Failed QA , Some corrections and additions to about.tt
11:36 vfernandes slef... I've already corrected the & to &
11:40 slef vfernandes: thanks. Any idea on the placing?
11:41 vfernandes no... there is no codelines for that
11:43 vfernandes maybe jcamins can give a opinion
11:47 cait-m_ hi #koha
11:47 cait-m_ @wunder stuttgart
11:47 huginn cait-m_: Error: No such location could be found.
11:47 cait-m_ oh hm
11:55 slef vfernandes: we'll have to wait for him to wake up...
11:55 slef @wunder stüttgart
11:55 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
11:55 slef is that it?
11:55 slef nope
11:55 slef @wunder EDDS
11:56 huginn slef: The current temperature in 2 mi s of EDDS, Filderstadt, Germany is -0.6°C (12:54 PM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
11:56 * slef wonders if that is right
11:56 slef @wunder stuttgart, Germany
11:56 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
11:56 slef huginn hates Germany
11:56 huginn slef: I suck
11:56 slef huginn: yes, you do
11:56 huginn slef: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
11:56 slef @wunder EGYH
11:56 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
11:57 * slef eviscerates huginn
11:57 slef @wunder EGYM
11:57 huginn slef: The current temperature in Flick's, Weeting, United Kingdom is -1.3°C (11:55 AM GMT on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1005 hPa (Falling).
11:57 slef can't read my own writing :-/
12:07 gerundio hi, good morning
12:14 jcamins_away slef: I usually sort "space" first.
12:18 slef jcamins_away: got reference?
12:18 vfernandes so it's correct like i have done...
12:18 slef looks odd to me and I don't know why
12:19 jcamins_away slef: Chicago says they prefer to use letter-by-letter, but sorting spaces first can be done if necessary.
12:21 vfernandes slef patch committed to correct the problem with &
12:29 gerundio what is field 999 for in MARC21?
12:30 jcamins_away biblionumer and biblioitemnumber.
12:30 jcamins_away Do not change it!
12:30 slef @marc 952
12:30 wahanui The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
12:30 huginn slef: unknown tag 952
12:30 slef gerundio: see that ^^
12:31 slef gerundio: any MARC21 field with a 9 in is "for local use"
12:33 gerundio I'm using UNIMARC
12:33 gerundio I have barcode and stocknumber in 995f and 995j
12:34 vfernandes 995 its the unimarc field for items
12:34 gerundio but when I look at the DB for the items table record it get stored in the more_subfields_xml column as tag="999" code="f" a
12:34 gerundio and code="j"
12:34 gerundio is this normal behavior?
12:34 vfernandes yes!
12:34 jcamins_away Oh.
12:35 jcamins_away I forgot you were using UNIMARC.
12:35 vfernandes gerundio that's normal
12:35 jcamins_away I have no idea what it is.
12:36 gerundio vfernandes++ jcamins_away++ (because sometimes having no idea is ++ :p)
12:38 gerundio btw, vfernandes do you usually map the stocknumber items' table field with MARC 995j to use the stocknumberam123.pl plugin script?
12:38 gerundio I have a DB filled with item records withe the stocknumber stored in the XML and not in the table collumn itself
12:39 vfernandes gerundio i'm not a librarian :), but in the servers that I have access the stocknumber are introduced by hand
12:39 gerundio in order to use this I'll have to create a script to move the data from the XML to the table collumn
12:39 gerundio ok
12:40 gerundio my librarians already had requested a tool to generate barcodes and stocknumbers so you see the deal
12:40 vfernandes you can do take even without do a script
12:40 gerundio I rather use KOHA's built-in tools to do so
12:40 gerundio and improve them if necessary
12:41 gerundio I think it's the better approach... win win
12:41 gerundio lunch time, cya later
12:41 vfernandes off course it is... the modification to the column you can do it without a script
12:41 vfernandes use SQL and ExtractValue
12:42 gerundio I rather use script instead of direct SQL injection
12:42 gerundio it might be usefull to someone else is the community too
12:43 vfernandes even better :)
12:52 jcamins_away Updating MARC blobs directly in the database is a bad idea. Your indexes will get screwed up.
13:29 oleonard Hi #koha
13:47 jcamins_away Hey, if anyone has a chance, could they please check whether reserves get recorded in old_reserves when they are filled on master?
13:48 oleonard Sure jcamins_away
13:49 jcamins_away Thanks.
13:49 oleonard jcamins_away: Yes.
13:49 jcamins_away Good!
14:24 H H hey koha is there annyone here who knows in what marc field you should put the previous name of a magazine
14:35 slef bah to H
14:35 slef @marc 247
14:35 huginn slef: A former title proper when one cataloging record represents several titles associated with an entity. (Repeatable) [a,b,f,g,h,n,p,x,6,8]
14:37 libsysguy hey I didn't know huginn did that
14:38 magnuse something new to learn every day on #koha ;-)
14:38 slef @roulette
14:38 huginn *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
14:38 * huginn reloads and spins the chambers.
14:38 slef @wunder EGYM
14:38 huginn slef: The current temperature in Flick's, Weeting, United Kingdom is -1.3°C (2:36 PM GMT on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Falling).
14:39 slef huginn: no, Conditions: snowing
14:39 huginn slef: I've exhausted my database of quotes
14:39 libsysguy @eightball will nginx get working soon?
14:39 huginn libsysguy: The outlook is poor.
14:39 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
14:39 slef @wunder EGYD
14:39 huginn slef: The current temperature in Cranwell, United Kingdom is -2.0°C (1:50 PM GMT on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -9.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Falling).
14:39 magnuse @wunder boo
14:39 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (3:20 PM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
14:39 magnuse woohoo!
14:39 libsysguy @list games
14:39 huginn libsysguy: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette
14:39 magnuse @wunder marseille
14:39 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 3.0°C (3:30 PM CET on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
14:39 libsysguy @monologue
14:39 huginn libsysguy: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
14:39 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
14:39 magnuse bah, catching up to me...
14:39 slef tropical Bodo
14:39 magnuse hehe
14:39 oleonard @coin
14:39 huginn oleonard: tails
14:40 * oleonard doesn't know what to do with that
14:40 slef @wunder Holbeach, United Kingdom
14:40 huginn slef: The current temperature in Moulton Seas End, Spalding, United Kingdom is -1.3°C (2:38 PM GMT on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Falling).
14:40 libsysguy @list
14:40 huginn libsysguy: Admin, Alias, Bugzilla, Channel, Config, Dunno, Factoids, Filter, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, MARC, Math, MeetBot, Misc, Network, News, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, ReleaseDay, Seen, Todo, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, and Weather
14:40 slef that's closer... I'm sure Gedney Hill is in there somewhere
14:40 slef @wunder Gedney Hill, United Kingdom
14:40 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
14:40 slef @wunder Leverington, United Kingdom
14:41 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
14:41 slef @wunder Leverington Common, United Kingdom
14:41 libsysguy @list dunno
14:41 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
14:41 huginn libsysguy: add, change, get, remove, search, and stats
14:42 libsysguy @karma libsysguy
14:42 huginn libsysguy: Karma for "libsysguy" has been increased 33 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 33.
14:42 magnuse @dunno stats
14:42 huginn magnuse: There are 5 dunnos in my database.
14:43 magnuse @dunno 1
14:43 huginn magnuse: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
14:43 slef @wunder ICAMBRID13
14:43 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
14:43 magnuse ah
14:43 slef huginn: you what? I took that from wunder!
14:43 huginn slef: I suck
14:43 magnuse gah, my error from yesterday raises its ugly head again, this time when i choose the default framework in cataloguing: Can't use string ("") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl line 666. something to do with $tagslib, for sure
14:44 slef where addbiblio.pl line 666 is?
14:44 slef @wunder ICAMBRID13, United Kingdom
14:44 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
14:45 slef @wunder Begdale, United Kingdom
14:45 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found.
14:45 magnuse slef: foreach my $subfield ( sort( keys %{ $tagslib->{$tag} } ) ) {
14:45 slef magnuse: $tagslib->{$tag} == undef?
14:46 magnuse slef: dunno, it says "Can't use string ("") as a HASH ref"
14:49 slef magnuse: $tagslib = &GetMarcStructure( 1, $frameworkcode );
14:49 slef H: say @marc 247
14:50 H Im interested in putting Succeeding Entry in my koha but there is no field 785 http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd785.html anny tips ?
14:50 slef magnuse: so I'd probably enable KOHA_BACKTRACES and see if that says what key it's looking for... but probably it won't... or use a warn to try to discover it.
14:51 slef @query Succeeding Entry
14:51 H ah 247 sec i take a look
14:51 huginn slef: No results for "Succeeding Entry."
14:51 slef H: I suspect you may need to add unusual MARC fields to frameworks
14:52 slef @wunder EGXC
14:52 huginn slef: The current temperature in Coningsby, United Kingdom is -1.0°C (1:50 PM GMT on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Falling).
14:52 H ok
14:52 slef huginn: fail
14:52 huginn slef: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
14:58 maximep @wunder cyqb
14:58 huginn maximep: The current temperature in lac st-charles, quebec city, Quebec is -21.3°C (9:56 AM EST on January 18, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -28.0°C. Windchill: -21.0°C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Rising).
14:58 maximep crazy weather
15:13 jcamins_away khall: self-sign offs are not a problem, as long as the patch isn't marked "Signed off" because of them.
15:13 magnuse maximep: winter weather, by the looks of it :-)
15:13 jcamins_away A lot of people use a sign off line to indicate "I want this to go into $Project."
15:14 khall I understand. I inadvertently set one to signed-off because my habit is to read the raw patch first. I noticed the SO and set it to signed-off without thinking.
15:16 vfernandes koha 3.8.9 is released when?
15:16 jcamins_away Ah. I am tethered so e-mail reading was necessarily cursory.
15:16 vfernandes 22th?
15:16 jcamins_away January 22.
15:16 vfernandes humm thanks... i hope to finish the 3.10 translations on time
15:17 vfernandes :)
15:17 vfernandes 3.10.2 is released on the same date right?
15:18 jcamins_away Yes.
15:35 vfernandes pootle is slow :/
16:03 reiveune bye
16:28 gmcharlt vfernandes: "I read that as 3.10.2 is released on the same date night?" ... sadly, I can empathisize with that
16:28 libsysguy is there a shell script to export all biblios in marc format?
16:32 gmcharlt libsysguy: the web export tool (tools/export.pl) can also be run from the command-line
16:32 gmcharlt it's the Janus of Koha!
16:35 libsysguy ahh okay cool I thought it might
16:35 libsysguy but as I was diving through that tool I didn't see getopt, get params everywhere :p
16:38 libsysguy gmcharlt is there a param to pass when running that script? it looks like I just get the login info when I try and run it without flags
16:39 gmcharlt libsysguy: does tools/export.pl --help work for you?
16:40 libsysguy no, I get the same thing
16:40 libsysguy was it added after 3.8.5?
16:40 gmcharlt libsysguy: ah, indeed it was
16:40 libsysguy ah
16:40 libsysguy I was afraid of that
16:48 * oleonard grabs a long length of rope and a torch and jumps into Search.pm
16:50 libsysguy god speed oleonard
16:53 libsysguy oh gmcharlt I forgot to ask…did you make any headway on the wip git server
16:53 gmcharlt libsysguy: no, ended up doing some stuff for customers last night ... but I'll have time this weekend
16:54 * oleonard scoffs Customers! Pf!
16:55 gmcharlt :)
16:55 libsysguy customers pishaw
16:56 libsysguy gmcharlt what is the reason for having a wip server rather than just adding a wip branch on git.k-c.org
16:56 gmcharlt libsysguy: oh, it wouldn't be a whole new server ... just a new repo on git.k-c.org that all (registered) folks can push to
16:56 libsysguy ahh okay okay
16:57 libsysguy I was looking for a place to push my calendar work until dbix class gets in
16:58 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @jmdh22: ""@anitsirk: the changes that @coreyfromaotea made to #kohails during #flossac improve accessibility."#mahara"
17:40 * magnuse wishes #koha a good weekend
18:09 gerundio have a nice weekend everyone
18:21 gaetan_B bye
18:36 jcamins_away I just got a problematic message in the staff client.
18:37 jcamins_away I will take a picture.
18:37 jcamins_away A book is being both transferred to a different library _and_ held.
18:38 jcamins_away Has anyone ever seen this: http://screencast.com/t/OVtfuTU77hR
18:45 jcamins_away Okay, someone did not sign off on bug 9384.
18:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9384 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , With OPACPatronDetails set to 'don't allow' a form shows
18:46 jcamins_away Not that one.
18:46 jcamins_away Bug 9348.
18:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9348 minor, P3, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Format dates in HOLD notices consistently
18:46 jcamins_away I see that Jonathan tried to, though, so I'll add the signed-off-by line.
18:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9348' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=784f4c39af4ddb835f8541b6fe1ffb2095def6be> / Bug 9348 - Format dates in HOLD notices consistently <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=51c07cf356823600ac6ea327d2bcd24b13785abd>
19:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #1017 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:52 libsysguy holy moses there is a lot of QA-ing that needs done
19:57 gmcharlt those patches! they keep coming, and coming, and...
19:58 rambutan good work gmcharlt, you scared off sekjal
19:59 libsysguy I'm not sure if I should be happy there are so many patches or mad that Koha is so buggy :p
20:01 oleonard Not buggy, improving!
20:01 libsysguy there is the optimist
20:01 libsysguy hehe
20:02 gmcharlt a project that isn't used never gets bug reports
20:02 libsysguy true that
20:02 libsysguy also a project that never moves forward
20:03 cait not sure what the topic is - but complaining doesn't fix bugs :)
20:03 cait and hi all :)
20:03 libsysguy I'm QA-ing
20:03 cait excellent :)
20:03 * libsysguy tries to stop the finger from pointing at himself
20:04 libsysguy but I've only passed 3 today :'(
20:04 cait oh?
20:04 cait I was gone all day, mostly without internet
20:04 libsysguy yeah…friday is my QA day
20:04 cait I have no idea what happened today :)
20:04 libsysguy heh
20:04 libsysguy TO THE DASHBOARD!!
20:05 jcamins_away I managed to push bug 9348.
20:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9348 minor, P3, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Format dates in HOLD notices consistently
20:05 cait jcamins: oh nice - I think
20:06 cait haven't tested it myself :)
20:06 jcamins It works.
20:06 cait yay
20:06 cait metric formats?
20:06 jcamins I had a devil of a time with it, though...
20:06 jcamins turns out that changing notices requires you to restart Plack.
20:09 libsysguy do you have to do a full restart or can you just reload
20:09 jcamins I don't know.
20:09 jcamins My restartplack script is for restarting Plack not reloading it, so I restart.
20:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1017: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1017/
20:10 jenkins_koha kyle: Bug 9348 - Format dates in HOLD notices consistently
20:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9348 minor, P3, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Format dates in HOLD notices consistently
20:12 jcamins What we need is to not use variables for caching data... ever.
20:14 libsysguy I would assume that has the same affect as lazy loading in DBIx::Class
20:15 libsysguy to cache or not to cache…that is the question
20:15 libsysguy oh there is #4 for today
20:15 libsysguy I'm gaining on you cait :p
20:16 cait not that hard :)
20:16 cait this week was the usual amount of insanity
20:16 libsysguy yeah well I had been slacking
20:17 cait and you could actually qa my patches
20:17 cait if you didn't do that anyway ;)
20:18 jcamins libsysguy: caching is good. Caching using module variables is not.
20:18 libsysguy I'll do a search for you cait…is there one in particular you wanted me to look at?
20:20 cait I think there were 2 signed off when I left this moring
20:21 cait you can just sort the signed off queue by name yo uknow :)
20:21 cait that's what i do - bugzilla doesn't like when I search for names
20:22 libsysguy bs searching is picky
20:22 libsysguy s/bz/bs
20:22 libsysguy agh you know what I mean lol
20:23 libsysguy cait I'm curious about the grace days patch
20:23 cait me too but that needs more time for testing than I had this week
20:23 cait and it's not a major, criticla or blocker thing... so it moved down a bit on my list
20:23 libsysguy gotcha
20:23 cait I think I will have to learn how to write unit tests for htat
20:23 cait or automated tests of some kind
20:24 libsysguy SELENIUM!!!
20:24 wahanui i think selenium is more things like "perform this action, ensure that this is the result"
20:24 cait libsysguy: selenium won't help me there
20:24 cait I have to run the overdues cronjob
20:24 libsysguy I am thinking about writing a patch to do that from tools
20:24 cait or see if the routine gives the right value
20:24 libsysguy I'm just not sure how to do it yet
20:24 cait with holidays involved and all that
20:24 libsysguy because I want to be able to do that with fines too
20:24 cait why would you want that?
20:25 libsysguy testing
20:25 cait not sure it's worth the trouble
20:25 cait overdues has a gazillion of parameters
20:25 cait unlike fines
20:25 libsysguy fines was the one I wanted to do
20:26 libsysguy overdues runs now every time you check in
20:26 libsysguy argh I don't know if I can sign off on your patches cait
20:26 libsysguy nengard singed them off
20:26 cait ah right
20:26 cait never mind then
20:26 libsysguy waits for jcamins to say its okay :p
20:26 cait bit of a problem i guess... since it's marc21
20:27 cait maybe marcel
20:27 jcamins libsysguy: I was just writing out why running fines from tools is a problem...
20:27 libsysguy haha
20:27 libsysguy sorry to cut you off
20:27 libsysguy continue
20:27 jcamins To summarize: it seems like a very dangerous feature for very limited benefits.
20:27 cait ^^
20:28 libsysguy even if it was only available to the root user?
20:28 jcamins Yup.
20:28 jcamins How many people have we had complaining something was broken because they always used kohaadmin?
20:28 libsysguy heh since 3.10…a LOT
20:29 cait for reasons
20:29 cait it's unreasonable using it.
20:29 cait and I think we should not have features requiring it.... that's just too hard to explain to people.
20:32 nengard hi all - say hi to NH libraries in my demo
20:32 libsysguy Hi NH libraries
20:32 cait hi NH libraries
20:33 jcamins Hello from New York.
20:33 nengard Okay - back to work for me ;) thanks guys!!
20:57 oleonard Hm, so DataTables breaks if you have a colspan in your table header. Good to know.
20:57 * oleonard mutters bitterly at DataTables
21:01 cait oh
21:06 oleonard Four down, forty-something to go.
21:07 cait tables?
21:07 wahanui tables are now sorted by class, not ID: $(".sorted").tablesorter
21:07 oleonard wahanui: forget tables
21:07 wahanui oleonard: I forgot tables
21:08 oleonard cait: yes
21:08 cait ouch
21:08 * cait hands oleonard the cookie tin
21:08 cait cookie jar?
21:09 oleonard I don't discriminate by cookie container ;)
21:10 oleonard I'm off. See you later everyone
21:10 jcamins I need to bake today.
21:10 jcamins Also decide what I'm serving for dinner tomorrow.
21:10 cait one sec... did he just run off with all the cookies?
21:11 jcamins cait: looks like it.
21:11 wahanui hmmm... looks like it is a PDF download from there.
21:11 cait ....
21:11 cait that was... sneaky.
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23:42 jcamins @later tell mtj Could you please have alohabot announce that it, wahanui, and huginn are bots?
23:42 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.