Time Nick Message 23:53 jcamins eythian: so there is. 23:52 eythian http://imgur.com/cjMXV <-- it's true, there is 23:43 * rangi crawls back into his hole 23:41 rangi rambutan: are you offering to write the book? :-) 23:41 jcamins Nope. 23:41 rangi i bet they didnt get bailed out in 1832 23:40 rangi heh 23:40 jcamins (fun aside: I was at a lecture on the 1832 economic collapse in Edinburgh on the day that the Bank of Scotland folded) 23:40 jcamins Disadvantage: your employer believes it's circa 1830. 23:39 jcamins Advantage of being a civil servant: great benefits. 23:39 rangi ah right 23:39 rangi i dont think ive owned a chequebook since 2008 23:39 jcamins Only when dealing with the government. 23:38 rangi i forgot americans still use cheques 23:38 jcamins I have dated *three* checks 2013! Without writing 2012 first! 23:22 jcamins [off] Ah, yes. No rest for the wicked. I was just -- finally -- sent a copy of the catalog which was due at the printer's October 1, 2012, and asked to index it. 23:13 jcamins_away wizzyrea: yes. 22:55 wizzyrea that's a darn shame 22:40 eythian no, not at the moment 22:38 * wizzyrea looks to be EVEN LAZIER 22:38 wizzyrea i forget can git bz change status to signed off as well? 22:23 cjh \o/ 22:22 wizzyrea and it doesn't look bad up there 22:22 eythian tend to agree 22:21 wizzyrea that ? lacks context even for sighted people 22:21 wizzyrea I think we're going to go with straight Help 22:11 wizzyrea right 22:11 cjh the [] might not be needed if we had help, as we already have | separators. 22:10 wizzyrea [ Help ] might be a better solution 22:10 wizzyrea even sighted people 22:09 wizzyrea because they do not see it 22:09 cjh we will have to check with Julius how his screen reader reads an alt, but that is one approach. Could also add invisible context manually or change the ? to be 'help' 22:09 wizzyrea probably, but... I think people do not use it 22:09 eythian I presume an alt or title attribute resolves that? 22:08 wizzyrea eastern US 22:08 wizzyrea :) 22:08 eythian pfft, we're far more east than he is. 22:08 wizzyrea hear* 22:08 wizzyrea but I will ask the rest of you - the link at the top in the staff client, for the visually impaired it is confusing to her [ ? ] 22:07 wizzyrea eastern time zone :) 22:07 wizzyrea nm will ask him tomorrow ) 22:07 wizzyrea oleonard about? 22:07 eythian bye cait 22:06 cait good night all :) 22:06 cait now jcamins_away beat me to it :) 21:53 eythian later 21:53 cjh night :) 21:51 * jcamins_away calls it a day. 21:50 eythian http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/local-papers/kapiti-observer/8183040/Whale-on-Paraparaumu-Beach <-- quite the whale 21:43 eythian barriers are down! 21:41 eythian and all the wifi people get NATted behind the one address 21:40 eythian oddly I thought I connected with IPv6, maybe that's something else 21:39 eythian no, "~robin@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz" is coming from our more internal network. 21:38 jcamins_away I had figured that cat1-cat10 and cat11a-cat11f were used by non-Koha people. 21:38 eythian yeah, it means you're connecting from the wifi network which is isolated from most other things on our LAN 21:38 jcamins_away Oh, is that what cat11g stands for? 21:38 eythian > MrAgent075 (~corey@cat11g.catalyst.net.nz) is binnengekomen bij #koha 21:38 jcamins_away eythian: huh? 21:38 eythian jcamins_away: yes :) 21:38 eythian what happens when we upgrade to 802.11n? 21:37 eythian I'm not sure I'm OK with the idea that the hostname for the IP address we have reflects the detail of the protocol in use. 21:37 jcamins_away Another example of something that neither of us will do. ;) 21:37 jcamins_away Agreed. 21:37 eythian a simple plugin system would be quite nice, it'd make it easier to add new functions 21:36 jcamins_away However, it works perfectly, so that's not going to happen. 21:36 jcamins_away At this point it probably could do with refactoring into several .pms. 21:36 jcamins_away Yeah. 21:36 jcamins_away lol 21:36 eythian yeah, I've only been adding things I need, otherwise it'd be even more of a monster script. 21:35 jcamins_away But I don't need that so it's not a priority. 21:34 jcamins_away A refinement might be to support key-less sparse reduction, where if the key isn't specified you just keep on appending to the last record . 21:34 jcamins_away Provided there is some sort of key on which to reduce, yup, that would work. :) 21:33 jcamins_away I told you it was nice. :) 21:33 cait makes me think about the combine all item fields into one record problem? 21:33 cait nice 21:33 jcamins_away So an authority for Phoenix, AZ which is supposed to have links to every single neighborhood in Phoenix can be specified with fifty lines listing the city and the neighborhood, and with --reduce we can end up with one record with fifty see-alsos. 21:31 wahanui well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 21:31 eythian Oh, interesting 21:31 jcamins_away I use it for authorities. 21:31 jcamins_away It allows you to combine multiple rows from a CSV into one record. 21:30 eythian whatsit do? 21:29 jcamins_away The --reduce function is pretty nice, if I say so myself. 21:29 eythian I've mostly been using the stuff that was in there for other things 21:28 eythian yes :) 21:28 jcamins_away In that case, you should update the one in the migration toolbox, and use that one. :P 21:28 jcamins_away lol 21:27 drojf [off] i have never read "live cd" that often in one text. brought to you by the live cd manager. 21:27 drojf [off] "Manual installation of Koha is time consuming and requires the expertise of a Linux administrator. Majority of the libraries (69.70%) that participated in this survey installed Koha manually and 30.30% of libraries installed Koha with the help of Koha live CD." 21:27 eythian (not that though) 21:27 eythian well, I have my own clone of the migration toolbox with a ton more patches for things, too 21:27 jcamins_away Maybe that should go in a separate repo. 21:27 * rangi wanders off to try to sleep whateveer this is off 21:26 jcamins_away Hope I can merge your version in. 21:26 jcamins_away Hrm. 21:26 eythian yeah, her version is quite old 21:26 jcamins_away I think. 21:25 jcamins_away Her version is there, but not the one with that functionality. 21:25 jcamins_away Right. 21:25 wizzyrea or her version of it anyway 21:25 wizzyrea i thought ruth had put it there? 21:25 jcamins_away Ooh, yeah, I think that might not be in the koha-migration-toolbox repo. 21:24 wizzyrea 3 patches in one day that's a record for me 21:24 eythian that's part of the reason I need to move it to gitorious, I lose track of where my latest version is 21:24 eythian http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=import/csv/csvtomarc.pl;h=bf1c158cf1dbd18294351762c344e39725d55f44;hb=refs/heads/corrections_import#l640 <-- jcamins_away, this is it I think 21:24 cait oleonard++ for closing old bugs :) 21:23 jcamins_away Hm. I thought I had merged in your latest version, but maybe not. 21:23 jcamins_away And for anyone who is troubled by my description of --reduce as having a "stupid inefficiency," I was the original author. 21:22 eythian oh right, functions have a way of telling you what column they are referring to and that gets checked. 21:22 eythian or perhaps I'm thinking of something else. I forget now. 21:21 eythian can't remember how I fixed it. 21:21 eythian oh right. I think I'd encountered something like that. 21:21 jcamins_away No, if you use source functions for everything, a record will be considered blank. 21:20 jcamins_away It worked, but A) had a stupid inefficiency which meant that it was O(n^2) instead of O(n*n-1) efficient, and B) for certain data it failed to differentiate records. 21:20 eythian (or, I'm not clear what you mean) 21:20 eythian also, don't source functions work for all input anyway? 21:19 eythian ah right 21:19 jcamins_away Yes, that was a previous patch I did. 21:18 eythian there's a --reduce option? 21:16 jcamins_away The --reduce option now works properly, and it's possible to use source functions for all input. 21:15 eythian heh 21:15 jcamins_away I don't think I pushed them to my repo yet, though, so you'll just have to believe me. 21:15 eythian jcamins_away: sweet. It's about time I started managing that on gitorious or something to make it more amenable to that kind of thing 21:14 jcamins_away eythian: BTW, I added a bunch more features to your csvtomarc script. 21:14 eythian ohh curry day 21:13 eythian I'm the only one in the koha area 21:13 eythian It's quiet up here 21:13 cjh morning 21:10 eythian hi 21:08 jcamins_away Definitely not. 21:08 jcamins_away lol 21:08 cait unless you felt like writing one :) 21:08 cait don't know if it's time, prbably bit early 21:07 cait is the sky telling you when to write one? :) 20:59 jcamins_away The sky looks very ominous. 20:58 jcamins_away Is it already time to write one? 20:58 jcamins_away Good idea! 20:58 cait jcamins_away: maybe you could add it to your next newsletter? 20:56 rangi :) 20:56 rangi it also means we dont have 9 year old bug reports sitting in new status 20:55 rangi good way of finding things for people to work on if they say "i want to help koha what can i do" 20:55 rangi it allows you to search for a stuff no one is intending to work on, but it would be nice if someone did 20:54 * oleonard missed the memo 20:54 rangi we only just got it 20:54 oleonard I didn't even know we had RESOLVED-WISHLIST 20:53 rangi but yeah, someone might, thats why stick it in the wishlist 20:53 rangi well in 9 years 20:53 cait never say never :) 20:53 cait I would not say never 20:53 rangi oh you meant the bug, not the status :) 20:53 cait oh 20:53 cait so you woudl show a list of subjects alphabetic 20:52 jcamins_away oleonard: rather than entering in keywords, they'd like the ability to have a list of subjects in the database, and choose one. 20:52 rangi no one is actually intending to ever work on it 20:52 cait subjects are controlled terms, or they can be 20:52 oleonard What exactly does it mean? 20:52 cait it's anice wish :) 20:52 cait probably 20:49 jcamins_away I think perhaps that should be marked RESOLVED-WISHLIST. 20:49 jcamins_away Yes. 20:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=941 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED , In advanced search : ask for controlled terms for "subject" 20:49 oleonard Bug 941? 20:49 oleonard Is But 941 about authority searching? 20:33 * cait ponders if she has seen that in modern perl or learning perl 20:33 rangi heh 20:28 drojf ay caramba 20:23 jcamins_away (assuming the member you want is frameworkname) 20:23 jcamins_away ; 20:23 jcamins_away my @frameworkloop = sort { $a->{'frameworkname'} <=> $b->{'frameworkname'} } &getframeworks 20:23 wahanui well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 20:22 oleonard Interesting. 20:22 rangi http://search.cpan.org/dist/Template-Toolkit/lib/Template/Manual/VMethods.pod#sort,_nsort 20:21 rangi are you using it in a template oleonard ? 20:21 jcamins_away You'll need to sort with your own compare function. 20:19 jcamins_away oleonard: you should not. It returns a hash. 20:19 oleonard 'cause it ain't. 20:18 oleonard Should I not expect getframeworks in Koha.pm to return sorted data even with an 'ORDER BY' in the query? 20:17 drojf findus: are you getting along? 20:13 wizzyrea stink 20:10 jcamins_away Oh no! 20:10 rangi always when im on leave 20:10 * rangi has a cold, or the flu or soemthing 20:10 rangi maybe 20:10 jcamins_away rangi: perfect! 20:10 rangi via .deb packages 20:10 rangi jcamins_away: lets just change that to Installing via Packages 20:10 jcamins_away findus: nothing. The instructions for installing Koha on Ubuntu are *exactly the same* as the instructions for installing Koha on Debian. 20:09 wizzyrea what's this thing I heard of about a captcha in koha? 20:09 findus whats wrong with Ubuntu wiht koha? 20:09 jcamins_away Yeah, that's why I'm thinking maybe it should change. 20:09 wizzyrea :P 20:09 wizzyrea well it says debian 20:09 jcamins_away Maybe we should change the URL so people will pay attention. 20:09 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot koha on ubuntu 20:08 wizzyrea forget koha on ubuntu 20:08 jcamins_away Really. 20:08 jcamins_away For Ubuntu. 20:08 jcamins_away ^^ that is the canonical guide 20:08 wahanui rumour has it packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 20:08 jcamins_away packages? 20:08 wahanui somebody said koha on ubuntu was http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu 20:08 wizzyrea koha on ubuntu? 20:08 wizzyrea koha on ubunut? 20:08 wizzyrea yea, that's not the canonical guide. 20:08 jcamins_away This is why I disapprove of people copying bits and pieces of the documentation. 20:07 drojf then THAT is your instance name :) 20:07 findus instead of library I wrote bibliotek 20:07 drojf if you did that, your instance name is library 20:07 findus hmmm.... In the guide under "Instance creation" there's only a sudo apt-get install mysql-server command followed by "sudo apt-get clean" and "sudo koha-create --create-db library" 20:07 wizzyrea 9179 isn't pushed I guess? 20:07 drojf findus: you created a koha instance with koha-create, right? 20:07 jcamins_away Thanks. 20:06 drojf done 20:05 drojf deal 20:05 jcamins_away drojf: I'm not at my computer, which means you get to fix it. 20:04 drojf s/tjis/this 20:04 drojf if only those stones we carve tjis information in could ever be changed :D 20:04 jcamins_away findus: just write the correct instance name instead of "instancename" in the command listed. 20:04 wizzyrea :) 20:04 wizzyrea thanks ; 20:04 wizzyrea coooool 20:04 jcamins_away wizzyrea: yup. 20:04 jcamins_away drojf: that is true. 20:04 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @CatalystAcademy: "A patch for @kohails by @coreyfromaotea passed QA last night by Katrin from Germany. Excellent example of international community! #flossac" 20:04 wizzyrea corey is 199? 20:04 drojf anyway the slash should not be at the end of the PERL5LIB path ;) 20:04 jcamins_away wizzyrea: 199 20:04 findus How do I do that ? 20:03 wizzyrea sooo what developer number are we up to now? 20:03 jcamins_away Not changing the instance name does. :) 20:03 jcamins_away The extra slash doesn't matter. 20:03 cait k 20:03 drojf cait: doesn't matter 20:03 cait lib//C4 20:03 wahanui Hmm. No matches for that, cait. 20:03 findus Err..?? 20:03 cait hm there is also a // 20:02 drojf findus: did you change "instancename" to your instancename? 20:02 findus new problem: unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib//C4/Context.pm line 360. unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib//C4/Context.pm line 360. Can't call method "config" on an undefined value at LangInstaller.pm line 48. :( ??? 19:59 jcamins_away Why on earth did Vimal copy part of a page off the wiki? 19:58 cait thx drojf 19:58 cait ah 19:58 findus thanks 19:58 drojf http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian#Building_Languages 19:57 findus ? 19:57 findus how do I get these environment variables 19:57 cait hi wizzyrea 19:57 findus hi 19:56 wizzyrea oy. 19:56 findus the guide :) 19:56 findus http://kohageek.pbworks.com/w/page/61133887/koha-installation-ubuntu-packages 19:56 findus yep 19:56 cait so it's up and running? :) 19:56 cait cool :) 19:56 findus found a guide :) 19:55 findus yep 19:55 cait you have installed with packages this time around, right? 19:55 cait environment variables missing 19:55 cait right 19:55 cait ah 19:55 findus Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at LangInstaller.pm line 22. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at LangInstaller.pm line 22. Compilation failed in require at ./translate line 25 19:55 cait what is the error? 19:54 findus but when I come to the ./translate install da-DK part, i get an error.. 19:54 findus and I found a guide 19:54 findus yes 19:53 cait findus: have you seen http://translate.koha-community.org? 19:53 cait I checked this afternoon when findus was around the first time :) 19:53 cait but staff is not totally complete 19:53 cait we have one 19:53 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client 19:53 wizzyrea assuming we have a danish translation 19:52 wahanui cait: i'm not following you... 19:52 cait wahanui: I agree 19:52 jcamins_away lol 19:52 cait findus: we are trying to make the bot answer your question 19:52 wahanui yesterday is almost over for me, and it's been pretty awful. 19:52 jcamins_away Yesterday. 19:52 cait lol 19:52 jcamins_away I just did this. 19:52 cait additional languages? 19:52 jcamins_away installing languages? 19:52 findus yep 19:52 jcamins_away installing additional languages? 19:52 findus Does any one kwon how to install a danish languagespack on koha 3.10? 19:51 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 19:50 findus hi 19:50 * wizzyrea waves 19:49 cait wb findus 19:48 cait yeah me :) 19:45 wahanui well, ^^ is that clear? 19:45 ibeardslee cait: ^^? 19:45 rangi I bet cait did it 19:44 ibeardslee MrAgent075: who was that who QA'd your patch? 19:44 rangi Side product of working on accessibility you learn lots about best practice too 19:42 jcamins_away MrAgent075: and it'll probably be pushed tonight (your daytime) by someone in New York. 19:41 drojf haha sounds fantastic 19:39 jcamins_away Nice! 19:38 gmcharlt easy enough to implement, then 19:38 rangi If it's filled in, it's spam 19:38 rangi Current best system is to have inputs hidden by css, bots fill them in, humans don't 19:38 * MrAgent075 had patch passed last night by a person in Germany. Now that's what he calls International Collab. :) 19:37 cait MrAgent075: your patch passed QA :) 19:37 MrAgent075 Good Morning Everyone! :) 19:36 cait hi MrAgent075 :) 19:36 rangi Oh so um even more pointless? 19:36 gmcharlt and doesn't use an external service, looks like 19:36 gmcharlt randomly generated string 19:36 oleonard it's not an image 19:32 rangi I'll have to read the code 19:32 drojf bonus points if it comes directly from google servers :( 19:31 drojf a captcha? really? :( 19:31 rangi Ah well maybe the academy kids can rip it back out 19:30 rangi Gah 19:30 jcamins_away Apparently not. 19:30 rangi I thought by now ppl knew they were discrinatory and ineffective 19:29 rangi Yuck 19:29 jcamins_away For registering a new account. 19:29 * rangi hopes he just read bug mail wrong 19:28 rangi Have we really added a captcha to koha? 19:28 * jcamins_away pulls up short. 19:28 rangi Hmm hold up 18:34 vfernandes bye guys! 18:25 * libsysguy had to go look that up 18:25 libsysguy lol 18:24 jcamins_away Amelia Bedelia would have been confused too. 18:24 jcamins_away Don't feel bad. 18:24 jcamins_away lol 18:23 * libsysguy goes back to the literal corner 18:23 * libsysguy gets it now 18:23 libsysguy ohh 18:23 jcamins_away This seems very constant to me. 18:23 libsysguy well…impossible really 18:23 libsysguy that is what I was saying…its annoying... 18:22 jcamins_away It constantly annoys me. 18:22 jcamins_away libsysguy: I disagree. 18:22 libsysguy there is nothing that is constant about it 18:22 libsysguy that makes it impossible to automate 18:21 libsysguy so I was trying to add an item with selenium but every time I go to the addbiblio.pl page I get a new id for each element…frustrating 18:19 libsysguy no wizzyrea did 18:19 jcamins_away Did you add to that? 18:19 libsysguy ^^ yeahhhhh 18:19 wahanui hmmm... libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck or koha's youngest developer 18:19 libsysguy libsysguy? 18:11 jcamins_away ^^ there we go 18:11 wahanui jcamins is RM for 3.12, and just about the only one crazy enough to work on major projects in both authorities and search. 18:11 jcamins_away jcamins? 18:11 wahanui 'scuse me while I cue up "Hail to the Chief!" 18:11 jcamins_away jcamins? 18:11 wahanui jcamins is the brilliant and irascible President of the United States. 18:11 jcamins_away jcamins? 18:11 * jcamins_away thinks someone has been playing with wahanui's memory. 18:11 wahanui jcamins is too young to be the President of the United States. Which is a pity, because he had the votes at the 3.12 election. 18:11 jcamins_away jcamins? 18:11 wahanui jcamins is the brilliant and irascible President of the United States. 18:11 jcamins_away jcamins? 18:11 wahanui i think jcamins is the brilliant and irascible President of the United States. 18:11 jcamins_away jcamins? 18:11 wahanui 'scuse me while I cue up "Hail to the Chief!" 18:11 jcamins_away jcamins? 18:10 wahanui jcamins is, like, very, very irascible 18:10 jcamins_away jcamins? 18:10 wahanui i heard jcamins was brilliant 18:10 jcamins_away jcamins? 18:10 wahanui i guess jcamins is brilliant 18:10 jcamins_away jcamins? 18:10 wahanui well, jcamins is a spoilsport 18:10 jcamins_away jcamins? 18:10 wahanui jcamins is very, very irascible. 18:10 jcamins_away jcamins? 18:10 jcamins_away Oh, right, I'm jcamins_away right now. 18:10 wahanui jcamins_away is probably not here, but you don't have to take my word for it! 18:10 jcamins_away me? 18:10 * libsysguy goes to mark all his patches "critical" as to drive jcamins_away mad 18:09 jcamins_away Yeah, it was marked as "critical." 18:08 libsysguy I saw it got pushed 18:08 libsysguy no problem 18:08 cait libsysguy++ thx for your qa yesterday 18:07 cait :) 18:06 jcamins_away lol 18:06 huginn jcamins_away: Quote #231: "oleonard: You're not a real hardcore cataloger unless you catalog with hide_marc *and* advancedMARCeditor enabled: http://screencast.com/t/7qo1Wiokhe" (added by druthb at 02:34 PM, January 08, 2013) 18:06 jcamins_away @quote get 231 18:05 huginn jcamins_away: 1 found: #231: "oleonard: You're not a real hardcore cataloger..." 18:05 jcamins_away @quote search editor 18:05 libsysguy damn 18:05 huginn libsysguy: No matching quotes were found. 18:05 libsysguy @quote search "marc editor" 18:05 jcamins_away libsysguy: I don't think so. 18:05 libsysguy editor* 18:05 libsysguy is there a quote about hating the marc edirot? 18:01 huginn jcamins_away: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 18:01 jcamins_away @quote get 123 18:01 * Dyrcona doesn't think the words library and standard logically go in the same paragraph, never mind the same sentence. 18:00 jcamins_away Actually, some of my snark is rather prideworthy too. 17:59 oleonard I openly mock library standards and I'm proud to say it! 17:58 jcamins_away [off] Because some people might be offended by our blatant mocking of library "standards." Also because saying "bibliographic exchange environment" is embarrassing and I don't want a record of me having done it. :P 17:58 jcamins_away [off] Good thing, too, they'll need it if they want an actual copy of the standard. 17:57 jcamins_away [off] lol 17:57 oleonard [off] Why are we whispering? 17:57 gmcharlt [off] televise it and you suddenly have an exciting new funding opportunity for cataloging departments 17:56 jcamins_away #marchasnomercyandwilleatyoualive 17:56 jcamins_away [off] Every environment must have its predators. 17:55 gmcharlt jcamins_away: [off] an environment? /me just had an image of predatory RDA records tearing into herds of peacefully grazing MARC21 records 17:47 jcamins_away [off] How could it not be? It's for a bibliographic exchange _environment_ which is better then any stinking format or protocol. Or, for that matter, anything hypothetically concrete. 17:47 jcamins_away [off] Really. 17:46 jcamins_away [off] _This one_ will be different. 17:46 jcamins_away [off] I know what you're thinking: "another 'standard' that will be poorly conceived and offer no added value to anyone other than the organization that scalps copies of it?" 17:46 jcamins_away Ooh, NISO is developing a new Bibliographic Exchange Environment. 17:30 jcamins_away vfernandes++ 17:30 jcamins_away I saw! :) 17:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9395 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Problem with callnumber and standard number search in OPAC and Staff Client 17:29 vfernandes jcamins check bug 9395 :) 17:20 jcamins_away gerundio: you can search on LDR/06, but it has nothing to do with what Koha calls "item type." 17:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1009: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1009/ 17:14 gaetan_B bye ! 17:06 kf bye all :) 16:51 kf :) 16:51 oleonard That's a great example, thanks kf 16:50 kf http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#SQL10:_Placeholders 16:49 kf oleonard: If I understood correctly what you were looking for earlier 16:49 reiveune bye 16:49 kf oleonard: I think I have seen an eample on how to do sql right on the wiki somewhere 16:48 gerundio since I'm not a librarian I have a hard time understading the purpose of the other field 16:48 gerundio I see the use for the item types, both in search and circulation rules 16:48 gerundio hmm, when you say "collection code" you're refering to "6- Type of record" from field 000? 16:47 oleonard item types are also used to define circulation rules, so you may want to keep them separate from search-related categorization 16:46 oleonard item type and collection code can both be used to filter search results gerundio 16:45 gerundio from where I'm stading I'd say that Koha item types are the ones to look for in terms of filtering search results, right? 16:44 gerundio in terms of catalog search, does that field have any influence in the results? 16:42 Dyrcona Looks like it is a PDF download from there. 16:41 Dyrcona gerundio: http://www.ifla.org/publications/unimarc-formats-and-related-documentation 16:41 jwagner Ah. Then ignore what I said, but I suspect the answer is the same. 16:40 gerundio does any standard apply for that matter too? 16:40 gerundio we're using UNIMARC 16:39 jwagner http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bdleader.html 16:38 jwagner Item types can be anything you want. 16:38 jwagner It's based on the MARC standard (assuming you're using MARC21, that is), which defines certain values. 16:37 gerundio jwagner, the 000 - 6 is a list of hardcoded values from what I could tell, right? 16:33 jwagner none at all 16:31 gerundio hey guys, what's the relation between the subfield "6- Type of record" from field 000 and Koha's Item types? 16:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4202 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Improve international currency and exchange support 16:31 * oleonard wonders if Bug 4202 had funding at some point or if it is just ideas 16:26 Dyrcona Ah, yeah... 16:22 gmcharlt Dyrcona: no, just playing with the infobot 16:22 Dyrcona gmcharlt: Don't ask me. I'm just visting. 16:21 gmcharlt <fallor>? 16:20 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 16:20 huginn Dyrcona: Quote #62: "<fallor> is this a known thingy?" (added by gmcharlt at 01:18 PM, February 26, 2010) 16:20 Dyrcona @quote random 16:17 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:37 PM, July 07, 2011) 16:17 gmcharlt @quote get 145 16:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #1009 for job Koha_master (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #1006 2 days 2 hr ago) 16:10 jcamins Makes sense to me. 16:09 oleonard Right now you have to "manually" sort frameworks by code or description. If you sorted it by default you'd only have to "manually" sort if you wanted a sort by code. 16:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3549 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Framework sorting in addbook 16:09 oleonard Regarding Bug 3549, I wonder if there's any reason not to add a sort by framework description directly to the SQL? 16:07 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #85: "owen: Nothing says embracing my geekness like participating in an IRC meeting about software licenses!" (added by kf at 12:23 PM, July 14, 2010) 16:07 gmcharlt @quote random 16:01 oleonard Thanks jcamins 16:00 jcamins Hopefully someone found it useful. 16:00 jcamins Apologies if that was rehashing things you already know. 15:59 jcamins You can pass the @ids list, and use that for $dbh->execute(@ids) 15:57 jcamins If you can't use placeholders with IN, your best bet would be to generate a WHERE clause. with as many placeholders as there are IDs. 15:56 jcamins No problem. 15:56 jcamins If you can, that's the best option. 15:56 oleonard I wasn't thinking critically enough, assuming the example was valid. My apologies. 15:56 jcamins I'm not sure if you can use placeholders with IN(). 15:55 jcamins That's a massive SQL injection flaw. 15:55 jcamins Yikes! 15:55 jcamins koha-news.pl does that? 15:55 * oleonard passes the buck to koha-news.pl 15:55 oleonard Ah of course. I was copying from a poor example. 15:55 jcamins It allows SQL injection by inserting the comma-separated list directly into the SQL. 15:54 oleonard Okay 15:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3134 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Ability to selelct multiple reports to delete at once 15:54 jcamins I'm not comfortable with your patch for bug 3134. 15:53 jcamins Not quite that bad. 15:53 jcamins lol 15:53 wahanui bad news is that you're probably royally screwed 15:53 jcamins oleonard: bad news... 15:46 kf ... and I tested it and I hate missing something that big :) 15:46 kf that was only jquery I think, so I hope it was not the cause 15:45 jcamins oleonard: in that case, it probably wasn't the patch I pushed last night. 15:45 oleonard that's my guess kf, a bad query maybe 15:45 jcamins kf: or that. 15:45 kf or a side effect of the new category system? 15:45 oleonard Hm, last night? I thought I noticed it first a few days ago, thought it was a data problem. 15:45 jcamins I didn't see that when I was testing, but maybe I tested wrong. 15:44 jcamins oleonard: maybe the result of the reports sorting patch I pushed last night? 15:44 kf and oleonard++ :) 15:40 kf oleonard++ :) 15:33 magnuse oleonard: two for the price of one! yay! 15:33 oleonard ...but no duplicates in the database? 15:31 oleonard When I add a saved SQL report I end up with two copies 15:30 vfernandes but i need a system preference to staff too 15:29 vfernandes jcamins i will do the patch 15:27 jcamins With nothing specified the search is closer to wrdl than most other options. 15:27 jcamins vfernandes: not necessarily. 15:27 vfernandes right magnuse 15:23 vfernandes when nothing is specified it uses wrdl right? 15:23 * magnuse is reminded of this discussion: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Default-search-options-in-the-OPAC-td5727169.html 15:21 vfernandes yes but with wrong value.... only "sn" and "callnum" when it should be "sn,phr" and "callnum,phr" 15:21 jcamins Though I'm not sure one is needed for the staff client... aren't both options already there? 15:20 jcamins Probably one for each. 15:20 vfernandes but one to controll the OPAC and Staff or one for each one? 15:20 vfernandes ok I can do it with a system preference 15:19 jcamins That's why my suggestion was probably more reasonable. ;) 15:19 vfernandes i don't have much time for this :) 15:18 magnuse jcamins: ;-) 15:18 jcamins magnuse: I was looking for an option that would not require vfernandes to spend the next month on the small bugfix. 15:18 vfernandes in OPAC the problem is only in "sn", in the staff client the problem in callnumbers and sn 15:17 magnuse or make the whole list of indexes editable :-) 15:17 jcamins If it's true, use sn,phr callnum,phr etc. If it's false, use sn,wrdl callnum,wrdl etc. 15:17 jcamins A syspref like "OpacNumbersPreferPhrase" in the Searching tab. 15:16 jcamins Make it an option. 15:16 vfernandes what? 15:16 jcamins Actually, you know what might be even better? 15:16 jcamins Yes. 15:16 vfernandes i will submit a bug/patch then the responsible can accept/reject 15:11 vfernandes should I fill a bug and submit a patch? 15:09 vfernandes in OPAC the problem with callnumber is solved (phr added to value) 15:09 vfernandes in OPAC there is the same problem in standard number 15:04 vfernandes but it wasn't pushed to master because search-indexes stills searching only for "sn" 15:02 vfernandes sn -> standard number 15:01 vfernandes in the comments he says that sn has already a patch 15:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6454 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lculber, NEW , Searching by callnumber uses callnum,wrdl not callnum,phr 15:00 magnuse Bug 6454 sounds related 14:59 vfernandes :/ 14:58 jcamins I can't find it. 14:58 jcamins Maybe not. 14:57 jcamins I'm looking. 14:57 vfernandes can you show me the bug? 14:57 jcamins Possibly it was missed for 3.8. 14:57 jcamins vfernandes: I think there was a patch for that. 14:56 vfernandes the same happens to standard number... if I had phr everything works fine 14:55 vfernandes should I submit a bug for this? 14:54 vfernandes but it gives me wrong results... if I change the value to "callnum,phr" everything works fine 14:54 vfernandes when searching for call number the search indexe is <option value="callnum"> Call number</option> 14:53 vfernandes people i'm having a problem with 3.8 14:47 kf yeah 14:46 drojf well, depends on the size of the monitor of course 14:46 drojf i don't think these logos have a good size for what you are planning to do ;) 14:42 kf aah no 14:42 drojf where X is your graphic 14:42 drojf Suche [Freitext] X [ (input field) ] X [OK] 14:42 drojf i thought you want to have something like 14:40 kf but maybe if that's not possible... 14:40 kf oh I did mean 14:40 drojf oh, you did not mean to have it right before and after the search field i suppose :) 14:40 kf the problem is, it takes up lots of room 14:39 oleonard Yeah that's a pretty common usage of the header 14:38 kf didn't think about that 14:38 kf [off] inm.bsz-bw.de < maybe could put it in the header instead 14:38 kf oooh 14:37 oleonard drojf: I had the same thought, but I think the existing structure won't allow it 14:37 kf drojf: heh 14:36 drojf can't you use :before and :after for that? i think i only used it to display an icon in front of a link so far, but maybe something like input.text#transl1:before { content:url(/path/to/file.png); } and the equivalent for :after? (hoping oleonard won't get a heartattack from my wild guesses) 14:26 kf a gentle kick in the right direction would be appreciated 14:26 kf but I am a bit stuck on how to add one to the right 14:26 kf of course the left one wa easy using opacsmallimage and some css to make it right for the size of the logo 14:26 kf I am trying to get a logo show up left AND right of the search box 14:26 kf heh 14:25 kf oleonard: I think you can - checking my 3.6.10 here shows MANUAL_INV with a manual fee for copying 14:25 oleonard So never mind. CSS. 14:25 oleonard Oh I didn't look carefully--there are hard-coded ones and custom ones 14:25 kf if I didn't scare you away :) 14:25 oleonard Oh you can? I thought from looking at the template that it was hard-coded. 14:25 kf and the css 14:25 kf and there might even be example values, the copier fee thing 14:24 kf oleonard: about the bug - not sure I get it :( you can add values to MANUAL_INV or whatever authorised value now that will show up in the list for manual invoices, I remember testing that I think 14:23 oleonard Sure kf 14:23 kf well, that's not a good question actually, but do you have time to give me some css hints? :) 14:23 oleonard kf: I think the original enhancement allowed the library to create their own authorized values for manual invoices 14:23 kf oleonard: can I ask you something? 14:22 kf it's not a good solution of course... using the description for the amount 14:22 kf it might have gone in on a separate bug? 14:22 kf I think 14:22 kf hm it does work 14:21 drojf yeah probably not 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3476 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Predefined fee types 14:19 oleonard I don't think bug 3476 is really fixed but I also know the person who filed it has no intention of submitting a rebased patch 14:18 kf i felt really mean for failing this morning 14:18 kf hope ti helps them and is not frustrating 14:15 magnuse oleonard++ and kf++ for polite and informative shootdowns 14:14 drojf 'Unknown operating system Windows 2000. Setting to default OS "All".' <--- lol 14:11 * oleonard already ruthlessly shot down the accessibility patches :( 14:11 drojf i think that were 4 now. your turn, everybody ;) 14:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5291 normal, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, RESOLVED INVALID, Purchase suggestion not working 14:10 * drojf closed bug 5291 14:10 kf hm it didn't work 14:08 drojf slef slef slef 14:08 kf we should summon slef and ask him :) 14:07 kf hm 14:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3162 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Authority subfileds definitions and Show/Show Collapsed/Hide option 14:07 oleonard Example: Bug 3162 is unmodified. 14:06 drojf my guess would be you made it through the old list then, or the lists are generated differently than i would expect 14:05 oleonard drojf: The list is new. It doesn't include items from the previous one. 14:04 drojf (have not done anything the last time i think) 14:04 drojf i assume the stuff from the last list would just turn up again? 14:03 oleonard Did we make it through all the items on his previous list? 14:01 drojf a dashboard for the bugs from slef's emails would be nice 13:59 drojf \o/ 13:58 jcamins That is fixed. 13:58 jcamins drojf: no. 13:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3327 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , rebuild_zebra.pl doesn't index authorities in XML 13:51 drojf is this still true? "This combination of parameters is not possible in rebuild_zebra.pl: rebuild_zebra -a -x"? according to the comments on bug 3327 it is a GRS-1 vs. DOM thingy 13:39 kf oops :) 13:38 drojf oops, said a german 'ups' ;) 13:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3068 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, RESOLVED FIXED, Auth.pm: IP address matching overly generous 13:38 drojf i tried bug 3068 but would not mind somebody else verifying my findings 13:37 drojf wrong 13:37 drojf ups 13:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3086 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Can't close circulation date-picker popup in Internet Explorer 13:37 drojf i tried bug 3086 but would not mind somebody else verifying my findings 13:33 kf I am not sure my second idea was a good one - but I was hoping too to catch you today and ask you for ideas 13:32 kf oleonard: yeah :( 13:32 oleonard I saw the Bugzilla messages. I also saw that kf had started looking at them. 13:31 jcamins oleonard: you were much besought last night. There are a bunch of accessibility patches that wizzyrea wanted your opinion on. 13:31 oleonard So, #koha. 13:26 kf i hope not :) 13:24 drojf woah, drowning in karma :) 13:24 kf drojf++ again :) 13:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3068 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, NEW , Auth.pm: IP address matching overly generous 13:23 drojf i will look at bug 3068 13:23 drojf yes 13:21 kf is that from the new oldest mails list? 13:21 kf drojf++ :) 13:20 jcamins drojf++ 13:20 jcamins Yay! 13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4910 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, RESOLVED INVALID, Debian Packaging does not start Apache (on Ubuntu Lucid) 13:19 drojf i tried bug 4910 and set it to resolved-invalid 13:02 haris ok 13:02 jcamins However, since I'm not certain that the earlier steps worked, it's best to start over, including the backup. 13:02 jcamins You definitely missed the instructions starting at "Get rid of some of the old stuff / Apache." 13:01 haris ? 13:01 haris in which step i did it wrong 13:00 jcamins Otherwise, go through the instructions on this page http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Moving_an_installation_from_a_regular_install_to_the_Debian_packages starting from "Backup" again. 12:59 haris if no? 12:59 jcamins If you would like to continue using a tarball install, then yes. 12:59 haris using tarball install? 12:59 haris so I have to reinstall it again? 12:59 haris ok. 12:57 jcamins The instructions you were following were how to switch to a package install. 12:56 jcamins Using a tarball install. 12:56 haris but my site is up and running 12:56 jcamins If you follow the instructions under the heading "Get your site up and running," that will create your site. 12:56 haris the problem is that there in 12:55 jcamins There's the problem. 12:55 haris there is nothing inside of sites 12:55 haris no 12:54 jcamins Okay. Does that file exist? 12:54 haris I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml" 14:52:19-15/01 [fatal] Could not parse /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml 12:53 jcamins Now run `zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml` 12:53 jcamins Just so long as you're koha-koha. 12:53 jcamins That's fine. 12:53 haris that appears if i type su - koha-koha 12:53 haris No directory, logging in with HOME=/ 12:52 jcamins The user "koha" is not used. 12:51 jcamins su - koha-koha 12:51 jcamins No. 12:51 haris su koha , you mean? 12:51 jcamins Okay, switch to koha-koha. 12:51 jcamins Ummm... 12:50 haris Sorry, user root is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml' as koha-koha:koha-koha on "site" 12:50 jcamins You could also su - to koha-koha and just run the command directly. 12:50 jcamins You can run that command as root. That's what the `sudo -u...` is for. 12:49 haris this needs to run it as koha user? 12:49 jcamins Run `sudo -u koha-koha -g koha-koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml` 12:48 haris ok 12:48 jcamins So the next thing to do is to try running the zebra daemon with the configuration file you want. 12:47 jcamins Okay. 12:47 haris yes 12:47 jcamins Including the koha-rebuild-zebra step? 12:46 haris yes 12:46 jcamins Did you follow the instructions all the way through to the end? 12:45 jcamins That is not the right koha-conf.xml. 12:45 jcamins Ah. 12:45 haris as root 12:44 haris this is the command that i type 12:44 jcamins Okay. 12:44 haris zebrasrv-2.0 -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 12:43 jcamins And are you running the daemon command or the zebrasrv command directly? 12:42 haris root 12:42 jcamins When you say it works from the terminal, what user are you running Zebra as? 12:42 wahanui hmmm... only this is a neverending story somehow 12:42 haris only this 12:42 haris root 14205 0.0 0.0 3300 748 pts/3 S+ 14:40 0:00 grep zebra 12:41 jcamins And you get no output from koha-start-zebra? 12:40 jcamins Thinking... 12:40 haris any other idea? 12:39 jcamins Hrm. 12:39 haris but there is a message that "Stopping Zebra server for koha daemon: fatal: failed to stop the koha-koha-zebra daemon: No such process " 12:39 jcamins Yes. 12:39 haris to see if the pid running 12:39 haris i did it, then try sudo koha-stop-zebra koha 12:37 haris when i change the permissions, next run "sudo koha-start-zebra koha" ? 12:36 jcamins khall++ 12:35 jcamins That is one of the "features" that I am not so fond of. 12:35 jcamins Every time you start Zebra successfully, it forcibly changes the ownership on all your files. 12:34 jcamins Okay, so `sudo chown -R koha-koha /var/lib/koha/koha/* /var/run/koha/koha/*` 12:34 haris and I did it 12:34 haris I read that /var/log/koha /var/run/koha /var/lock/koha must have koha permission 12:33 haris koha 12:33 haris in which folders and what kind of permission 12:33 jcamins What's the instance called? 12:32 jcamins This supports my permissions theory. 12:32 haris but I can't have the terminal open 12:32 vfernandes the new po's are already up? 12:32 vfernandes hi :) 12:32 haris manually I can start zebra server 12:31 jcamins Okay. 12:31 haris http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Moving_an_installation_from_a_regular_install_to_the_Debian_packages 12:31 haris follow this guide 12:30 jcamins But how? Packages? 12:30 haris and I updated to 3.8.6 12:30 haris I had a 3 version of koha 12:30 haris and "sudo koha-start-zebra instance" 12:30 jcamins How did you install Koha? 12:30 jcamins Okay, that's the same script. 12:29 haris and also i tried from " sudo koha-start-zebra" 12:29 haris I am trying to start it from /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon 12:29 jcamins You're starting Zebra using koha-zebra-ctl.sh? 12:28 jcamins Most likely, the problem is permissions. 12:28 jcamins Got it. :) 12:28 haris no 12:28 haris i am trying to understand why now the zebra server can't start 12:28 jcamins So ps aux | grep zebra does not give any output. 12:28 jcamins I see. 12:27 haris this is the ps aux | grep zebra of a previous snapshot of my system that it worked 12:27 jcamins How do you know? 12:27 haris the zebra daemon can't start 12:27 findus Thank you very much so far, I'll be back when I'm stuck again :) 12:27 jcamins haris: what are you trying to do? 12:27 haris koha 1978 0.0 0.0 2152 356 ? S 2012 0:00 daemon --name=koha-zebra-ctl.koha --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.err --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha.koha -- /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml koha 12:26 haris yes I am doing it now 12:25 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" 12:25 jcamins_away haris: first question? 12:25 kf haris: you can paste things like that to paste.koha-community.org if you want 12:25 jcamins_away ^^ those are the canonical package instructions for both Debian and Ubuntu. 12:24 wahanui well, packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 12:24 haris I have done ps aux | grep zebra and I have some results. Can we find what is the command of zebra server that is running? 12:24 jcamins_away packages? 12:24 magnuse for installing packages ion ubuntu: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages 12:24 findus :) 12:24 findus ask away 12:23 haris Can I ask something? 12:22 findus learn it the hard way :s 12:22 findus All manually 12:22 findus No I have decided to do it from the beginning... I'm a bit slow ;) 12:20 kf does it mean it worked? or where are you stuck now? 12:20 findus A tiny link maybe.. :) 12:18 findus :) 12:18 findus := 12:18 findus hmm... It was done in the earlier version, and the guide I've found doesn't mention anything about it so..... Anyboby know any good and thorough guides. 12:14 magnuse koha-list should tell you if there are any instances 12:14 magnuse ah 12:13 findus well it should have ;) 12:12 findus it has been done 12:12 magnuse yay! 12:12 findus Anyway. I'm trying the manual way. With ubuntu 12.04.1 and koha 3.10. Well see hoe far I get :) 12:12 magnuse are you using koha-create to create an instance, or is that done for you? 12:10 findus I think you're right... Wonder why it doesn't complete the installation... 12:07 magnuse i'm pretty sure koha-conf.xml.in is a template that is used to create koha-conf.xml files 12:06 * magnuse waves to findus (from norway) 11:49 findus That's nice. Thanks :) 11:49 kf we can try to help if you run into problems 11:48 findus But thanks, I'll get right on it :) 11:47 findus admin page? 11:46 findus will the koha page show then? 11:46 kf a2dissite default 11:46 findus ohh 11:46 drojf then you need to disable the default page of apache 11:45 findus thanks :) I only got the "It works page showing" 11:44 drojf we can help with that 11:44 drojf that wiki page is not 100% up to date but 3.8 ("oldstable") is what you would be looking for at the moment i suppose 11:44 findus Last time i got stuck on how to bring up the admin page.. 11:44 kf findus: it's really easy with some help and it will save you headaches long term :) 11:43 findus a fujitzu primergy tx1000 someting 11:43 wahanui well, packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 11:43 drojf packages? 11:43 drojf then a package installation should be easy to do :) 11:43 findus yep 11:43 drojf do you have a linux server you can use? preferably running debian linux? 11:42 drojf :) 11:42 findus :) 11:42 findus but I can follow a discription 11:42 findus not much' 11:42 findus actually i did try the manual way 11:42 drojf do you have experience with linux? 11:41 findus :) 11:41 findus newbie' 11:41 drojf hi findus. why are you using a live dvd? 11:41 kf findus: what's the blocker for you to using th epackages? 11:40 kf he is struggling with the live dvd 11:39 findus yep 11:39 kf may I introduce you to findus from demark? 11:39 drojf hi kf 11:39 findus hi 11:39 kf hi drojf 11:39 drojf good day #koha 11:39 kf and you installed it from cd before? 11:39 findus :( 11:39 findus but I can't find the cd' 11:39 kf not that old then :) 11:39 kf ah ok 11:39 findus 3.4 i think 11:39 findus hmmm.. 11:39 kf which version is the older version? 11:38 kf ah ok 11:38 findus different pc too 11:38 kf ah ok, so this is an update? 11:38 findus yes on a older version 11:38 kf the koha installtion I mean? 11:38 kf ah so you had it working once? 11:38 findus yep 11:38 kf with the live dvd? 11:37 findus it all started with getting the languages files to work... 11:37 kf I am in germany :) 11:36 kf ah 11:36 findus Denmark 11:36 findus :D 11:36 findus oh no :d 11:36 kf where are you located? 11:36 kf where packges are really most comfortable for updating 11:36 kf package installation, git installation, tarball installation 11:35 findus alternatives? :) 11:35 kf but that's my opinion :) 11:35 kf for a production system I would take some time and take a look at alternatives beside the live cds 11:34 kf it's always a bit hard to tell 11:34 kf so if you come here with a question regariding the installation 11:34 kf the problem with them is that we (the developers) are not aware how they work 11:34 kf htere have been lots of live dvds and cds in the past 11:34 findus Ist for a local school.. 11:34 kf koha I mean 11:33 kf what do you want to use it for? 11:33 findus there are lots' 11:33 kf using 3.10 is totally the right version 11:33 findus no 11:33 kf I would recommend using the packages really 11:33 findus do you know where to dl an older version? 11:32 kf is it the only file? 11:32 kf I am surry, it might be a change they made 11:32 kf hm 11:31 findus http://sourceforge.net/projects/kohalivedvd/ 11:30 kf where did you download it from? 11:30 findus Well i comes fully loaded with xubuntu 11:29 kf on which OS are you installing? 11:29 wahanui somebody said packages was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 11:29 kf packages? 11:29 kf it's very comfortable 11:29 kf could it be an option for you to install using the packages instead? 11:29 kf so I don't know what the newest is :) 11:28 findus 3.10 right? 11:28 kf sorr,y there are a few people who have provided live dvds 11:28 findus the newest 11:28 kf hm which live dvd are you using? 11:28 findus No matter what pc I installl the live-dvd on... strange 11:27 kf findus: hm sorry, never seen that 11:26 findus Hi. does anybody know why my koha-conf.xml has a 'in' extension on it.? " /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml.in" 11:23 kf thx for the patch for 9391 11:23 kf Joubu++ 11:22 haris i think that I have an instance that is just called "koha" 11:21 haris i follow this guide of the link you send me 11:21 haris this is what I done in upgrade 11:20 * magnuse gotta run 11:20 magnuse *involved 11:20 magnuse it's probably incomplete and might be a bit outdated, but it should give you an idea of the kinds of operations invoved 11:19 magnuse haris: these are some notes i took when i moved an installation from a "regular install" (your 3.0 installation) to the packages (koha-common): http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Moving_an_installation_from_a_regular_install_to_the_Debian_packages 11:18 haris thanks again 11:18 haris I'll be back in a while 11:18 haris ok. thank you very much 11:17 magnuse let me see if i can find something oon the wiki 11:17 magnuse ok. but you can't just upgrade from 3.0 to an installation running off koha-common 11:17 haris is it necessary to create instances? 11:16 magnuse if those two commands gave no output you have not created any instances 11:16 haris I just find the system as it was and I upgraded 11:16 haris I don't remember if I did "koha-create" 11:15 haris nothing appeared 11:15 haris ok 11:14 magnuse and "sudo koha-list" 11:14 magnuse try "sudo ls /etc/koha/sites/" 11:14 magnuse if you never ran "koha-create" there will be no zebra to start or stop 11:13 magnuse hm, did you create in instance to begin with? 11:13 haris does not show anything except the grep zebra 11:13 haris but when I type ps aux | grep zebra 11:12 haris i did this and it appeared a message that zebra server started 11:12 haris "sudo koha-start-zebra <instancename>" 11:11 magnuse you gave it a name when you did "koha-create" 11:11 haris what we call instance? 11:10 magnuse so "sudo koha-start-zebra mylib" if your instance is called "mylib" 11:10 magnuse "sudo koha-start-zebra <instancename>" 11:10 magnuse oh, you might have done it right, but i forgot to point out that all those commands should have the name of the instance at the end 11:09 haris the message was that no process is running 11:09 haris i tried sudo koha-restart-zebra 11:09 magnuse try "sudo koha-stop-zebra"? 11:08 haris it was like nothing done 11:08 haris when i typed the "sudo koha-start-zebra" command, there was no error 11:07 haris in ps aux | grep zebra, does not show anything 11:07 magnuse any error messages? 11:07 haris i have done this command "sudo koha-start-zebra" without success 11:06 magnuse on the command line you can do "man <command-name>" for up to date instructions on how to use the commands 11:05 magnuse "sudo koha-start-zebra" would be the most relevant one, i guess 11:05 magnuse haris: if you are using the packages you could try the commands provided by koha-common: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#Zebra-related 11:04 magnuse \o/ 11:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #46: FIXED in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/46/ 11:03 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 10:54 haris ? 10:54 haris any idea 10:45 haris I have done an upgrade from 3.0.0 to 3.8.6 doing apt-get install koha-common 10:43 magnuse haris: how are you doing the installation? packages (recommended), tarball, git? 10:29 haris the problem is that the daemon can't start, but when i run the command zebrasrv-2.0 -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml the zebra starts but when i close the terminal, closes too the zebra server. I read a thread how to daemonize zebra create symbolink link to /etc/init.d with no success 10:25 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 10:25 magnuse @later tell wizzyrea: you might want to update your entry on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars :-) 10:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #46 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #43 2 days 15 hr ago) 10:16 H ok thx for reacting its not a disaster prob. no one goes that deep 10:15 gerundio ultimately you could hide it with some javascript/CSS I guess 10:15 gerundio besides having 3 combos is one of the things that make this an advanced search 10:14 gerundio I don't think it's possible to customize the advanced search form like that 10:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page 10:13 gerundio your question, if I understand it right, is if it's possible to change the default value of the 1st combo to something else? 10:13 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 7143 updating history and about page 10:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #257: FIXED in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/257/ 10:13 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 10:12 gerundio it seems that the default behavior of the advanced search feature 10:11 gerundio H, sorry for the delay, I'm cought up in some tasks here 10:04 haris what can I do ? 10:04 haris I would like to ask something. I have install koha 3.8.6 in debian and I can't start the service of zebra in /etc/init.d/"name of daemon" 10:03 H as i dont use 2 or 3 of them putting them off would be handy :) 10:03 H or is that always that list 10:02 H hey 10:02 H list 10:02 haris hello to everyone 10:02 H in advaced search -> more options you get -> 3 dropdown boxes with keyword in it ... can i change the ist in the dropdown box 10:00 H ok 09:50 gerundio H, sorry, can't figure out what you mean "seach for list", care to explain? 09:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #257 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #253 2 days 13 hr ago) 09:15 H question : In the advanced search -- more options --- is the search for list changable ? ... can i add/remove options somewhere ? 09:13 H Morning Koha 08:54 magnuse yay 08:54 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Roros Lufthavn, Norway is -32.0°C (9:20 AM CET on January 15, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -36.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 08:54 magnuse @wunder rrs 08:53 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 08:53 magnuse @wunder røros, norway 08:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #256 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #253 2 days 12 hr ago) 08:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1008: ABORTED in 1 hr 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1008/ 08:23 * magnuse did not have any doubts about that :-) 08:22 rangi yeah, clearing out space, it will come right 08:21 magnuse rangi: side effect of your rejigging? :-) 08:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #45 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #43 2 days 13 hr ago) 08:20 magnuse kf: Project Koha_3.10.x build #44: FAILURE in 29 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/44/ 08:19 rangi yep 08:19 kf hm? 08:19 magnuse oops, that was a quick fail for 3.10.x... 08:19 * magnuse waves back 08:19 * kf waves at #koha 08:18 magnuse hiya reiveune 08:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #44: FAILURE in 29 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/44/ 08:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #44 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 08:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #255: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/255/ 08:10 reiveune hi rangi, magnuse :) 08:10 rangi hi reiveune and gaetan_B 08:04 gaetan_B hello 07:57 reiveune hello 07:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #5: STILL FAILING in 31 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/5/ 07:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #5 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: STILL FAILING) 07:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #13: SUCCESS in 19 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/13/ 07:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #261: STILL FAILING in 27 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/261/ 07:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #13 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 07:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #12: SUCCESS in 3 min 2 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/12/ 07:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #261 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 8 mo 22 days ago) 07:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #12 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 06:51 magnuse [off] http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1987/02/09 06:50 magnuse cait: sure! 06:47 cait hm and a fireplace too? :) 06:46 * magnuse sends cait some logs for the fire 06:44 magnuse hiya cait 06:44 cait brr 06:44 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -4.0°C (7:40 AM CET on January 15, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 06:44 cait @wunder Konstanz 06:44 cait morning magnuse :) 06:40 huginn magnuse: downloading the Perl source 06:40 magnuse huginn: you could also mention that my whole world is pretty much glazed with rain that has frozen on the ground... 06:39 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (7:20 AM CET on January 15, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 06:39 magnuse @wunder boo 06:39 magnuse kia ora rangi 06:38 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. 06:38 rangi heya magnuse 06:37 * magnuse waves 06:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #255 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 06:32 rangi hi cait 06:29 cait morning rangi 06:24 rangi yep, i was just teasing 06:17 ibeardslee ultimately the Academy is all win for all 05:53 rangi hmmm 05:37 * rangi rejigs some things 05:37 rangi hmm running out of space on jenkins 04:40 jenkins_koha Starting build #1007 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 04:40 * jcamins calls it a night and heads for bed, still grumbling. 04:39 * jcamins grouches about people ignoring his dictates. 04:36 jcamins I did. 04:36 jcamins Oh, hey. 04:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7067 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , allow patron self registration via the opac 04:35 jcamins I could've sworn I pushed bug 7067. 04:33 jcamins And if I run out, there are lots of bugs sitting at signed off. 04:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9215' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=67a630e81fa8b72dd1ae454f2f0f300a07bc0f8e> / Bug 9215 - non translatable string in manage-marc-import <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=67ad61070e7a4d011fee08ce33e308b2c3a9be6e> / Merge branch 'bug_9182' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e6419 04:33 rangi sweet 04:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #254 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 04:32 jcamins Okay, five patches that passed QA for me to deal with next time I'm at a computer. 04:04 rangi nope, cos it still had to get a sign off and a qa signoff .. so that just means we were even with mahara at that point :) 04:03 ibeardslee oh and does that mean we should postdate a handcap for koha from the first academy for having the RM in the same room? ;) 04:02 jcamins And mahara gets a handicap for having a release team in your time zone. 04:01 rangi ;) 04:01 rangi ibeardslee: tahts cos there is no peer review, or qa, or release manager for the android project ... they should get a 3 day handicap 03:51 jcamins And it's eleven. 03:51 jcamins Spec's done. 03:38 wizzyrea the koha app looks to get some nice improvements though, kinda excited about that 03:30 wizzyrea WHAT uncool. 03:26 ibeardslee looks like koha is aiming for the bronze medal 03:13 wizzyrea looool 03:13 ibeardslee louder please 03:12 * wizzyrea laughs evilly 03:12 * MrAgent075 asks if he shall deliver the 'goods'. 03:10 * wizzyrea makes poison cookies 03:09 * wizzyrea has no shame 02:52 MrAgent075 soo evil... xD 02:48 jcamins lol 02:48 eythian and poison those cookies. 02:46 jcamins wizzyrea: bribe the Mahara team with cookies. 02:46 wizzyrea lol 02:46 wizzyrea jcamins we just lost :( 02:40 wizzyrea ok ok ok 02:40 jcamins [off] We also have improved authority overlay at stake! 02:40 wizzyrea mahara is winning :( 02:40 wizzyrea WE HAVE PRIDE AT STAKE HERE!!! 02:40 eythian proprosal schmoposal 02:38 wizzyrea <3 thank you 02:37 jcamins Once I've finished writing this proposal I will take a look. :) 02:37 wizzyrea but ... new developer :D 02:37 wizzyrea it's super trivial. 02:36 * wizzyrea signed it off 02:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9179 trivial, P5 - low, ---, agent.075, Signed Off , Incorrect capitalization in serials-collection.pl 02:36 wizzyrea bug 9179 02:36 wizzyrea ping jcamins 02:36 jcamins bag: perhaps you're in the mood to sign off? :) 02:36 jcamins MrAgent075++ 02:35 * MrAgent075 just made 2 bugs go away. He is very Happy with himself. 02:13 bag boring kind of game 01:28 jcamins Ouch! 01:20 eythian :< 01:20 eythian my $sql = $input->param('sql'); # FIXME: use sql from saved report ID#, not new user-supplied SQL! 01:11 cjh jcamins: was just checking :) 01:11 cjh \o/ 01:07 jcamins cjh: yeah, I didn't have a preference about heading level. 01:06 cjh fwiw the difference is the heading level for "The barcode was not found" 00:01 rambutan no opinion (OK, maybe just ever so slight for #1)