Time  Nick         Message
23:58 eythian      it's probably something that's safe enough to upstream, too.
23:58 AndyPT       eythian + cait + gmcharlt :  changing the source to add a new export type with BOM seems easy enough. I'll just do that ;)
23:44 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9346 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , acqui/neworderempty.pl ignores exchange rates and destroys user data on page load
23:44 dpavlin      thanks everybody and happy new year! Bug 9346 will unblock our acquisition migration to master, so I hope you will enjoy this new year present also :-)
23:44 jcamins      chf
23:44 rambutan     ah, I was thinking (French) francs
23:44 eythian      swiss francs, I can't remember the proper symbol
23:43 wahanui      rumour has it fr is the same in nb-NO and en
23:43 rambutan     fr?
23:43 eythian      wow, 58,00fr for a 16 page document, of which the first 6 are boilerplate, so are the last 3.
23:41 wizzyrea     ikr :)
23:41 eythian      I guess if anyone would know, it'd be them.
23:40 eythian      ah yes, microsoft has been claiming they are being unfairly treated by google and that they're finding it hard to compete.
23:40 * wizzyrea   laughs
23:40 * google     whistles innocently
23:40 AndyPT       gmcharlt: Adding a BOM to it seems much simpler ;)
23:40 * wizzyrea   giggles
23:40 eythian      hey, it's the second result on google :)
23:39 wizzyrea     interesting: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2013/01/google.shtm
23:38 jcamins      [off] ^^ :P
23:38 * gmcharlt   whistles innocently
23:38 eythian      http://ebookbrowse.com/iso-2709-2008-pdf-d307980860 <-- *cough*
23:38 gmcharlt     even if one accepts ISO's business model, it's a poorly-written standard
23:38 gmcharlt     eythian: trust me, it's not worth that much :)
23:38 jcamins      eythian: ISO is not known for their ability to count to zero...
23:38 eythian      they may be lying though.
23:37 eythian      gmcharlt: according to ISO it's worth CHF58,00.
23:37 wizzyrea     \o/
23:37 gmcharlt     wizzyrea: I'm multi-tasking ;)
23:37 eythian      this marc data has no directory section, it's unparsable.
23:37 gmcharlt     eythian: I have the ISO standard in my posession, but ... it certainly isn't worth any amount of money
23:37 wizzyrea     hehe well I was thinking about eythian's question actually
23:36 eythian      ah, wikipedia has an OK breakdown.
23:36 gmcharlt     AndyPT: well, writing something that uses Spreadsheet::WriteExcel::Big will get you XLS output (and Evergreen's reporter does that for "Excel" output)
23:35 wizzyrea     ping gmcharlt ^^
23:35 eythian      hey, anyone able to point me to a reference for the usmarc binary format. It's come to the point where I need to know how it works.
23:35 AndyPT       :S
23:35 libsysguy    thats the weird thing about assumptions :p
23:35 AndyPT       Yep, my solution is currently to add the BOM...
23:35 wizzyrea     or tab
23:34 wizzyrea     naw, they just learn to work with CSV
23:34 AndyPT       Weird... I'm sure a lot of people must have needed it...
23:34 eythian      it would be an easy patch to add the BOM if that would solve it.
23:34 wizzyrea     nope, no plugins for that.
23:34 libsysguy    whats up with you
23:34 libsysguy    wizzyrea, not a lot
23:33 AndyPT       Ok, so no known plugin to add any type of download formats other than CSV and TAB?
23:33 wizzyrea     sup libsysguy
23:31 wizzyrea     ;)
23:31 * wizzyrea   invokes wilw
23:31 jcamins      That's the great thing about open source.
23:31 jcamins      You could commission a feature like that, though.
23:31 AndyPT       ?
23:31 * eythian    challenges you to implement the "displaylikeoffice2001" attribute :)
23:31 AndyPT       Creating an XLSX file is easy programming...
23:31 jcamins      Anyway, I see no chance of any current Koha developer writing an Excel export into the system just because.
23:30 AndyPT       Yes, XLSX is simply XML inside a ZIP containter
23:30 jcamins      !
23:30 * wizzyrea   is not sure which definition of open you are using
23:30 jcamins      rangi: it's a high bar.
23:30 rangi        best joke of 2013
23:30 AndyPT       I'm fine with OOXML
23:30 cait         lol
23:30 eythian      good one :)
23:30 eythian      hahahah
23:30 rangi        bwahaha
23:30 AndyPT       And Excel 2007++ uses OOXML, which is standard and open
23:30 jcamins      There are libraries that have reverse-engineered it.
23:29 AndyPT       Well, a lot of applications export it
23:29 jcamins      (remember, Excel uses a proprietary closed-source file format)
23:29 jcamins      How would you get the Excel spreadsheet?
23:28 jcamins      No.
23:28 AndyPT       Is there no option to add Excel export to the list (other than changing the source code, which I don't want to do until I upgrade to 3.10) ?
23:28 jcamins      Yeah, LibreOffice is much easier.
23:28 wizzyrea     ^^
23:27 cait         you shoul dinstall libreoffice then.
23:27 AndyPT       Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... This is really too much for my users... I need something "dumb proof"...
23:27 cait         hit ok ok ok... and then it should be there
23:27 cait         then make sure you choose utf-8 as encoding
23:26 cait         import from text
23:26 cait         open excel
23:26 cait         choose tab separated
23:26 AndyPT       I'm downloading it...
23:25 cait         it's just a matter of using the right settings
23:25 cait         AndyPT: it works
23:25 AndyPT       My users need excel...
23:25 cait         eythian: my bet too - you have to explicitly tell it to use unicode (utf-8)
23:24 cait         beware, it's german, but it has screenshots
23:24 cait         the only way I managed to do it is like this: https://wiki.bsz-bw.de/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=l-team:koha:koha-handbuch:reports:3-6_01_reports_exportieren.pdf
23:24 eythian      I don't have excel, but perhaps there's some setting for the default character set? Dollars to doughnuts it's coming is as latin-1 or something.
23:24 cait         excel is a bit stupid.
23:23 AndyPT       eythian and cait : I'm currently using 3.8
23:23 AndyPT       eythian and cait: I don't really care for the BOM (if I'm the one using it). The thing is, my librarian staff need to export the report to excel, and using CSV that's not working. Is there any plugin to add "download to Excel" format?
23:18 cait         and which version of Koha are you looking at?
23:18 cait         AndyPT: what problems are you having? I am using libreoffice / excel at work ant it works nicely for umlauts
23:18 eythian      I have encountered it breaking things that should be unicode-aware though. But that may have been a dodgy parser I was using.
23:17 eythian      yeah. If there's something reasonably common that requires it, it might be worth implementing it anyway.
23:15 jcamins      eythian: it is if your text editor won't allow you to force the character set. But that's a problem with the editor not the file.
23:15 eythian      In fact, I'll clarify that: the BOM is not required and is arguably detrimental in UTF-8 :)
23:14 eythian      AndyPT: the BOM shouldn't be required in UTF-8, I think
23:13 eythian      rambutan: not a great deal :)
23:13 AndyPT       So, for anyone not a bot, I have a question: on Koha saved reports (SQL or guided), I'm trying to download them to CSV or TAB (bottom dropdown list), and any Unicode/UTF-8 character looks bad, because the export does not include a UTF-8 BOM....
23:13 rambutan     rambutan wonders how much tiny patches cost these days...
23:13 eythian      heh
23:12 wizzyrea     ^.^
23:12 * wizzyrea   thinks that the different way we answered that question says something about our personalities
23:12 wizzyrea     query
23:12 eythian      rambutan: if you have a space at the front of the SQL in a report, the report fails.
23:11 wizzyrea     the one that causes the sql reports to barf if a space is at the beginning of the quer
23:11 rambutan     "someone needs to sponsor the tiny patch it would take to fix that stupid query issue." What query issue?
23:11 AndyPT       Duh
23:11 eythian      yes.
23:11 AndyPT       (are you all bots!?!??!)
23:11 wahanui      'scuse me while I cue up "Hail to the Chief!"
23:11 eythian      hey, jcamins
23:11 jcamins      Hey!
23:10 AndyPT       I have a question
23:10 wahanui      okay, eythian.
23:10 eythian      wahanui: jcamins is also a spoilsport
23:10 AndyPT       Yep, the "hey" gave it away...
23:10 jcamins      wahanui is a bot.
23:10 wahanui      hey, AndyPT
23:10 AndyPT       Hello, wahanui
23:10 wahanui      privet, AndyPT
23:10 AndyPT       Hi
22:58 wizzyrea     have a lovely afternoon!
22:58 wizzyrea     cool, is np :)
22:58 JDatTeTakere Have done. On leave now for rest of day but will check my messages later. Thanks C and L.
22:57 pastebot     "JDatTeTakere" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Our monthly issues report - concerned that the data is incorrect. It's not showing MP issues." (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/334
22:54 wizzyrea     paste.koha-community.org
22:54 wizzyrea     oh, can you paste it in?
22:52 JDatTeTakere I'm using a Saved Report - the one that shows all of our issues.  We run the same report each month.
22:52 rangi        i get 3688 issues of rental magazines in 2012
22:49 wizzyrea     haha I about typed that exact thing. Also, are you using the built in reports or a created sql one
22:49 rangi        which report are you using?
22:49 wizzyrea     ahh
22:48 JDatTeTakere Just trying to work out why the Issues report say our Rental Magazines haven't been out, when we know they have.
22:38 wizzyrea     JDatTeTakere: did you have another issue with your reports?
22:06 JDatTeTakere It sometimes helps me to learn how queries are built.
22:05 JDatTeTakere Fantastic...I try out a few of the reports from the Koha Reports Library.  It 'sometimes
22:01 wizzyrea     I suspect there are quite a few like that.
22:01 wizzyrea     I updated that report on the wiki to get rid of the unnecessary bits.
21:59 eythian      someone needs to sponsor the tiny patch it would take to fix that stupid query issue.
21:59 JDatTeTakere I'm happy to benefit from any little bits of knowledge you can share.
21:59 wizzyrea     :D
21:58 wizzyrea     (*&($#@$# why isn't this working... oh
21:58 wizzyrea     just thought I'd mention it, as I just had it happen to me :)
21:58 JDatTeTakere Thanks Liz...I'll know to look out for spaces in future problem reports.
21:58 eythian      cjh_: one day I shall build one of those
21:58 wizzyrea     when you put it in, you'll get that message.
21:57 wizzyrea     JDatTeTakere: also, if you have a space in front of a report
21:57 cjh_         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqAUmgE3WyM
21:54 JDatTeTakere My other problem is that our monthly issues report tells me that issues of MP (Rental Magazines) but we know they
21:53 * wizzyrea   gets ready to edit the wiki
21:53 rangi        WHERE ( barcode IS NULL OR barcode = '')
21:53 rangi        i might do this
21:53 JDatTeTakere Fantastic - thanks guys.
21:53 wizzyrea     that one I pasted.
21:53 rangi        just slows the query down some
21:53 wizzyrea     it works
21:53 rangi        but it wont hurt
21:52 rangi        you don't need the biblioitems, you arent selecting anything from it
21:52 JDatTeTakere but further down that page...it's not the report I was looking for but I wanted to try it anyway as I came across a book yesterday that I couldn't issue because the Item barcode was entered in the call number field...so wanted to see if there were any others.
21:51 wizzyrea     WHERE Barcode IS NULL
21:51 wizzyrea     LEFT JOIN biblio ON (biblioitems.biblionumber=biblio.biblionumber)
21:51 wizzyrea     LEFT JOIN biblioitems ON (items.biblioitemnumber=biblioitems.biblioitemnumber)
21:51 wizzyrea     FROM items
21:51 wizzyrea     SELECT items.dateaccessioned,items.ccode,items.itemcallnumber,items.itype,biblio.author,biblio.title, biblio.copyrightdate
21:51 JDatTeTakere Ahhh...I got it from http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Checkouts_by_Item_Type_.28previous_month.29
21:50 wizzyrea     because that one is incomplete :)
21:50 wizzyrea     that's the exact report?
21:50 JDatTeTakere I'm getting the following error "The following error was encountered: The database returned the following error: 1 Please check the log for further details."
21:49 JDatTeTakere I'm trying to find all items without a barcode using this report I found in the Koha Reports Library -   SELECT items.dateaccessioned,items.ccode,items.itemcallnumber,items.itype,biblio.author,biblio.title, biblio.copyrightdate    FROM items   LEFT JOIN biblioitems ON (items.biblioitemnumber=biblioitems.biblioitemnumber)   LEFT JOIN biblio ON (biblioitems.bib
21:49 wizzyrea     go for it :)
21:49 JDatTeTakere Sorry to intrude ;-) Koha question for you guys.
21:39 wizzyrea     oh yes, that really captures the spirit of that particular bucket list item
21:38 rangi        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym6W-xSa3Ls <-- better
21:37 wizzyrea     I was hoping this was the 80's, but 1977: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZKhpbfR-LE
21:35 wizzyrea     ;)
21:35 * cjh_       is a few videos behind
21:35 wizzyrea     also, 1982
21:35 cjh_         hahha eye of the tiger, oh god.
21:35 wizzyrea     i bow to you sir.
21:35 wizzyrea     LOOL
21:34 rangi        i upped the ante!
21:34 * cait       can't listen to any of those :(
21:34 rangi        wizzyrea: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPsz5C4SED8
21:34 cjh_         best childhood movie, miyagi is awesome
21:33 cjh_         rangi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oomCIXGzsR0 :)
21:33 rangi        cjh_: you know the movie its the theme for eh?
21:33 wizzyrea     take that.
21:33 wizzyrea     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwer1CiteBg
21:32 cait         gema :(
21:32 cjh_         hahahha I know this song \o/
21:32 * cjh_       watches
21:32 rangi        i dedicate this to ibeardslee and cjh_ who both do karate
21:31 rangi        hehe
21:31 wizzyrea     oh you are evil.
21:31 rangi        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-WHW-QNswE    <-- 1984
21:24 cjh_         hah! queensryche are 80s!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adtE2H7sXJM (1988)
21:24 wizzyrea     crikey you guys are funny.
21:24 wizzyrea     which made me laugh.
21:24 * wizzyrea   just opened the dash, saw the quote "And before that I used the garden of razorblades that is OpenBSD"
21:20 wizzyrea     bye oleonard
21:20 * oleonard   quits with the intention of being productive tomorrow, for real this time
21:20 eythian      ff makes sense when you're working on your own repo. Merge commits clutter things up a lot, in general.
21:19 jcamins      wizzyrea: but how many times do people use "git merge"?
21:19 wizzyrea     is my guess.
21:19 wizzyrea     because merge commits are confusing.
21:19 jcamins      I don't understand why ff is the default.
21:19 jcamins      oleonard: I'm not sure it ever worked. I'd never used en-GB before.
21:19 cjh_         makes sense, I always wondered why ff was hated so much. ty :)
21:19 jcamins      Exactly.
21:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9339 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Intranet translation bar display en-GB when en is selected
21:19 * oleonard   can't seem to find a time when Bug 9339 didn't exist
21:18 cjh_         ahh, whereas with ff they appear in the same line (as if they were developed on the branch)
21:18 jcamins      Without it, you have to revert each one individually, which makes the history a mess.
21:18 rangi        (if there were 8 in the branch)
21:18 rangi        instead of havin to do each one
21:18 rangi        well it reverts the 8 commits
21:18 cjh_         oh so a merge commit is easier to revert?
21:18 rangi        then you can revert the merge
21:18 eythian      oh right
21:18 rangi        makes a merge commit
21:18 cjh_         no fastforward for git merge, why is it important?
21:18 rangi        no fast forward
21:17 eythian      what is --no-ff?
21:17 jcamins      That's why --no-ff is so important.
21:15 rangi        revert early .. and save everyone tons of hassle
21:15 jcamins      Yup.
21:15 rangi        and fixed and re pushed
21:15 rangi        i dont mind the idea, but its a shame it wasnt reverted back on 28/9
21:14 jcamins      dpavlin: A patch on a separate bug would be most welcome. :)
21:13 jcamins      It looks like about a dozen patches interspersed over several days worth of commits.
21:13 cait         but being able to set tax on order level is kind of important here
21:13 cait         I like the idea too, not necessarily the change to the syspref
21:12 dpavlin      we quite like other exchange rates features of it :-)
21:12 jcamins      There's no merge commit, so I wouldn't be able to revert it safely even if reversion wouldn't cause data loss.
21:12 cait         with parcels.
21:12 cait         oh i am confusing it
21:12 dpavlin      generally, we really like new acquisition, so reverting that might not be the best way to go.
21:12 wizzyrea     probably better to fix :/
21:11 cait         and you will lose data if you revert now and have been using it
21:11 jcamins      I just looked.
21:11 cait         not sure it's easy to rever, wlel pretty sure it isn't
21:11 cait         jcamins: it shuffles around a lot of acq data
21:10 jcamins      cjh_: thanks. I think I'll need it.
21:10 cjh_         jcamins: may the force be with you.
21:09 rangi        thanks
21:09 jcamins      I'll try reverting tonight.
21:09 rangi        *nod*
21:09 jcamins      It should've been reverted in September, per the note on the bug.
21:09 rangi        but yeah if you cant revert then fixing is the next best thing
21:09 rangi        but i agree with jcamins that regressions should be reverted first, fixed after
21:08 jcamins      I would favor reverting, except I don't think I'll be able to.
21:08 JDatTeTakere Well, it's that time of month again where I'm running reports showing last year's issue stats...and they are telling me fibs.
21:08 cjh_         if it is too difficult to revert, then a linked bug is clean.
21:08 rangi        dpavlin: fixing is the next best option
21:08 dpavlin      rangi: or I can fix it in another bug? We see a few more texes regressions, but it should be fixable.
21:07 jcamins      rangi: unfortunately, looking at the history it looks like I might not be able to.
21:07 rangi        i agree, that bug should probably be reverted
21:06 dpavlin      I think it should use vendor price currency for exchange rate, and not default currency, it's that simple :-)
21:05 dpavlin      I get that for Receive shipment from vendor when entering Accounting Details
21:03 cait         wowthere are lots of bugs linked to it :(
21:03 wizzyrea     well 8832 is fixed
21:03 rangi        so is in only in master and 3.10.x
21:03 rangi        it was only pushed 21/september
21:02 rangi        yeah
21:02 cait         I was quite sure that's a 3.10 feature
21:02 cait         wonder about the date
21:02 cait         hm
21:01 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5335 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , define VAT/taxes at orderline level, with default value for supplier and list of valid tax rates
21:01 dpavlin      this behavior was introduced by Bug 5335 from Fri Feb 24 16:24:05 2012 +0100 so it's pretty old...
21:01 cait         not sure I get it :(
21:01 wizzyrea     hm I haven't heard of this particular thing
21:00 dpavlin      since there is Replacement cost: (adjusted for HRK) it should stay in HRK and not get rewritten by USD values, right?
20:58 dpavlin      Vendor price is in USD, so all javascript updated fields gets overwritten with USD values except of Actual cost which stays in HRK
20:57 * cait       waves at dpavlin and wishes him and mglavica a happy new year :)
20:57 dpavlin      currency_rate in html page gets default currency exchange (1.0) from GetCurrency (active currencry, HRK 1.0) but
20:56 wizzyrea     what kind of problem?
20:56 dpavlin      I'm having problems with currency exchange rates with current master acqui/invoices.pl - is there existing bug I can look at?
20:55 cjh_         drats, all my favourite queen songs are 70s. Defeated.
20:39 cjh_         but my typing isnt :(
20:39 cjh_         i can't get behind htat is fantastic
20:39 rangi        ahh good old sonic youth
20:38 rangi        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcG8oNfpih8
20:38 oleonard     Unfortunately this is a year too late to count: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reSOp1domrU
20:35 rangi        i can get behind that
20:35 rangi        oooh
20:35 oleonard     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5xyuT9MgRs
20:31 wizzyrea     lol
20:31 rangi        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-eJQ1mTVzA
20:31 wizzyrea     (but just m/o)
20:31 rangi        cant get behind that
20:31 wizzyrea     if you leave off the shouting.
20:31 wizzyrea     he's actually quite a good artist/poet person
20:30 rangi        specially rollins and shatner!
20:30 rangi        gotta love rollins
20:30 rangi        do it do it do it do it
20:30 wizzyrea     i am pretty sure there is no parent alive that would tell you to turn down "soul to squeeze"
20:30 * wizzyrea   goes back to her (slightly later) chilli peppers.
20:29 rangi        heh
20:29 wizzyrea     "TURN THAT #$%@ DOWN"
20:29 wizzyrea     uh oh, I'm going to be one of THOSE parents.
20:28 rangi        this one really annoys parents
20:28 rangi        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad37pR8lrEo
20:28 rangi        hmm im still in the 80s
20:27 liw          wait, what? the 80s are over? we're in the 90s already? I feel old now
20:24 druthb       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-aK6JnyFmk
20:23 druthb       Cass Elliott in her white go-go boots...gotta love it.
20:23 rangi        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MBljztEeg0
20:23 * druthb     switches to even older stuff....
20:22 * wizzyrea   is not an authority on 80's rock.
20:22 cjh_         wikipedia agrees :o
20:22 rangi        yep
20:22 wizzyrea     ^.^
20:22 cjh_         oh wow they were 80s?
20:21 wizzyrea     always good.
20:21 rangi        early chili peppers?
20:19 rangi        heh
20:19 wizzyrea     >.<
20:19 oleonard     I was practically asphyxiated by the smoke machine
20:18 * cjh_       was raised on Queen and Meat loaf
20:18 druthb       oooh....sisters of mercy...mmmm
20:18 oleonard     Never was a fan, but I did see them in concert in the 90s
20:17 rangi        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o-6ftmw8CE
20:17 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @ranginui: "its 80s rock friday in the #kohails irc channel today"
20:17 rangi        ohh sisters of mercy
20:17 * wizzyrea   is slightly younger than you, goes for Pearl Jam and Soundgarden
20:15 * rangi      ponders what other music his parents used to tell him to turn down
20:15 cait         hehe
20:15 rangi        heh
20:15 cait         hmpf.
20:15 cjh_         fire woman isnt anywhere near as bad as I had expected :)
20:15 cait         oh, younger.
20:14 cait         hm six years older than me... htat's still not sooo bad
20:14 rangi        there are much worse songs
20:14 oleonard     The trouble with feeling old is that you can only complain about it to people your own age.
20:13 druthb       This song was #1 the week I was born:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE1dz6_u2JI
20:13 druthb       cjh_ is a *youngling*, then.
20:13 jcamins      Okay, I feel old.
20:13 rangi        89
20:13 jcamins      When did it come out?
20:12 cjh_         hahaha
20:11 rangi        you're welcome
20:11 rangi        there i just made you all feel old
20:11 rangi        this song is 2 years older than cjh_
20:10 wizzyrea     \o/
20:10 cjh_         random food friday
20:10 rangi        yep
20:09 wizzyrea     we missed weird wednesday
20:08 rangi        put your headphones and crank the dial up
20:08 rangi        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raql_Hh_NmU
20:08 rangi        its 80s rock friday
20:06 wizzyrea     at least, that's what I've got in my mind
20:06 magnuse      wizzyrea: very cool!
20:06 wizzyrea     and defining/labeling the regions
20:06 cjh_         good morning :)
20:05 wizzyrea     going through circ/member management
20:05 wizzyrea     oleonard: http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices/#kbd_layout this is I think where we are going to be doing some of our work
20:04 jcamins      I'll nudge the QA team if there are any outstanding patches that should be pushed before they arrive.
20:04 wizzyrea     we will be working on intranet accessibility
20:04 jcamins      wizzyrea: do you know what they'll be working on?
20:04 wizzyrea     :)
20:03 wizzyrea     step on anything
20:03 jcamins      Woohoo!
20:03 wizzyrea     ok cool oleonard, just didn't want to
20:03 jcamins      Do you know what they'll be working on?
20:03 rangi        wizzyrea and cjh_ are doing it
20:03 rangi        nexxt week
20:03 jcamins      rangi: hey, don't you have the student program coming up soon?
20:02 oleonard     That's new territory to me, so I don't have anything in particular to recommend
20:01 oleonard     Hi wizzyrea, got your msg
20:00 jcamins      Good morning.
20:00 wizzyrea     also, good morning
19:56 wahanui      faq is probably found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/
19:56 wizzyrea     faq?
19:48 cait         looks good to me
19:47 druthb       I got that bug.
19:47 cait         druthb: there is also a bug on bugzilla - I added you to the cc list ealrier today
19:47 druthb       I tested pt, and it was working.
19:46 cait         druthb: I will test arabic
19:37 rangi        awesome
19:37 druthb       I'll send a note.
19:37 rangi        ah it wasnt me, it was a couple of mails on the koha-translate list
19:36 druthb       try now, rangi n cait?
19:33 rangi        thanks
19:33 druthb       hm.  lemme get in there and see if I can spot it.
19:33 rangi        yep
19:33 cait         something aobut file permissions :(
19:33 cait         I think it#s always the same
19:32 druthb       sort of.
19:32 jcamins      lol
19:32 rangi        is druthb about?
19:32 rangi        hmm another error with pootle
19:31 wahanui      http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/01-how-about-no-bear.jpg?w=800
19:31 rangi        wahanui: we should use more MARC?
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19:10 jcamins      "But investigator, I had a drink with my victim the other day. That makes it totally okay to hack into all the servers between me and them."
19:08 jcamins      lol
19:08 oleonard     That's to make it legal. "all in good fun!"
19:08 rangi        i think they need a dictionary
19:07 rangi        why would you attack your friend?
19:03 oleonard     Uh... Okay.
19:02 ibooter      wanna attack your friends internet ?  Strong Booter ! i b o o t e r . t k   Join Now And Start Attacking!
18:57 jcamins      Nice!
18:56 rangi        http://gallery.katipo.co.nz/lianza2006/img_1454
18:56 rambutan     that's a cool green box. I could put 5 Pis in there, with a power supply, and have a little mini cluster
18:56 rangi        yep i made shirts to annoy them for 2006
18:55 rambutan     booth right beside Dynix
18:54 rambutan     yea, I assumed past use-by date
18:54 rangi        from 2005
18:54 rambutan     yea, well, there's a pic in that collection
18:53 wahanui      the first rule of Koha is that you don't talk about koha.org
18:53 rambutan     koha.org???
18:52 rangi        one of the greens we used
18:51 jcamins      That's Koha green? :)
18:50 rangi        jcamins: http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery3/index.php/kohaphotos/album11/DSC01796
18:47 rambutan     at least on opensuse :)
18:46 jcamins      I hadn't realized that /dev/shm was implemented with tmpfs. Tht's pretty cool.
18:46 rambutan     tmpfs             3966720      708    3966012   1% /var/lock
18:45 rambutan     tmpfs             3966720      708    3966012   1% /var/run
18:45 rambutan     tmpfs             3966720        0    3966720   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
18:45 rambutan     tmpfs             3966720    39776    3926944   2% /dev/shm
18:45 rambutan     tmpfs is used for lots of things
18:42 jcamins      khall: and if you're crazy you can do some really bizarre things with tmpfs+lxc.
18:41 jcamins      khall: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tmpfs
18:38 jcamins      khall: yeah, that's why wajasu and I had so much trouble with Zebra indexes.
18:37 khall        didn't know that, thanks jcamins!
18:37 vfernandes   yes i think you understand what I wanted to say :P
18:37 jcamins      khall: /tmp is a ramdisk under a normal Debian install.
18:36 rangi        Strong licenses ;)
18:36 rangi        No fees anyway :)
18:35 vfernandes   yes very popular because of the economy... open source software are a cheaper solution because no licenses associated.
18:35 rangi        Ahh
18:34 vfernandes   I think I can't post there because i need company authorization first
18:33 rangi        Seems like koha is becoming very popular in Portugal
18:32 rangi        Post on koha.pt? :)
18:32 jcamins      My fingers are too cold to type, sorry.
18:32 rangi        Yay!
18:32 jcamins      vfernandes++
18:32 jcamins      vfernades++
18:32 vfernandes   OPAC do 3.10 fully translated to portuguese :)
18:15 magnuse      kia ora rangi
18:13 wahanui      it has been said that Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
18:13 rangi        Morning
16:44 wahanui      i think pastebin is at http://paste.koha-community.org/
16:44 rambutan     wahanui: pastebin?
16:04 reiveune     bye
15:42 khall        excellent!
15:38 kf           I will try to take a look later tonight and sign off - if someone else beats me to it I will qa it instead ;)
15:37 khall        up and ready for testing
15:36 kf           yay :)
15:36 khall        new patch on the way
15:36 khall        jcamins, you were correct. The time zone was never being set, so it was defaulting to UTC
15:32 jcamins      Possibly relevant: timezone detection in Javascript: https://bitbucket.org/pellepim/jstimezonedetect
15:29 kf           but we should fix it too - because that is just weird.
15:29 kf           khall: if you want, split out <<today>> changes to a separate bug, if that helps
15:23 khall        Could be, I'll find out seen enough
15:23 jcamins      khall: are all the times being converted to UTC?
15:21 khall        I'll start digging
15:21 khall        What's odd is for me, my server is set to 10:17 AM, and the time I'm seeing is 3:18 PM
15:20 kf           next time :)
15:20 kf           we should have tried talking it out earlier
15:20 kf           :)
15:19 khall        no prob, that's why I made the video ; )
15:18 kf           I am sorry for that
15:18 khall        I was focusing on the wrong thing.
15:18 kf           oh good :)
15:17 kf           that doesn't appear in circulation.pl
15:17 khall        oh, I see now.
15:17 kf           the today's date on top of the slip is wrong
15:17 kf           nope
15:17 khall        so, when you test it you get different times listed on circulation.pl and on the slip, right?
15:17 kf           and you are only looking at the due date in your video - the problem is in today's date - at the top of the slip
15:16 kf           i double checked, because I thought it was very odd too, and can only retest when I get home later
15:15 kf           we are currently in daylight savings I think - my timezone is 'berlin', if that helps to test
15:15 jcamins      10:13ish.
15:15 kf           khall: all I can tell you is that my system was 1 hour off
15:14 kf           what time is it for you?
15:14 kf           looking at your video
15:14 khall        what's up kf?
15:14 kf           khall: around?
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14:59 vfernandes   kf++
14:59 vfernandes   ok thanks kf for all the help
14:58 kf           vfernandes: I can't fix that - druthb will have to - but check out the suggestions, it should make more sense now :)
14:58 druthb       eh?
14:58 jcamins      druthb: ping
14:58 kf           oleonard++++ :)
14:57 vfernandes   po for portuguese prefs is still in error.... :/
14:56 vfernandes   back :)
14:54 H            ill post the link whenn we go public ... i probably need to register myself on the site somewhere (no time untill now) maybe in the future there's something i can do to help the community (afther the koha is up and running :) public)
14:50 H            i got a database dumb and made marc records from it + the koha item fields (with some perls script and it is all imported) ... looks good ... still need toi get the ldap and mail ok
14:49 jcamins      Ah... yeah, they probably won't be using authorities.
14:48 H            :OP
14:48 H            ehm a sort off home made system by people who asked too much money for it (IMIS)
14:48 jcamins      It might have authority records you can use.
14:48 jcamins      What was your old system?
14:47 H            thx for informing me now i have a starting point
14:46 jcamins      You may not need authorities at all.
14:46 H            i just imported 50000 records out off my old system
14:46 jcamins      However, Koha does not have a bulk authority generator.
14:46 H            aha
14:45 jcamins      If you don't have an OCLC account, you can also tell Koha to generate authority records for you when you edit bibliographic records.
14:45 jcamins      Usually you would download authority records from somewhere else- OCLC or the like.
14:44 H            and how do i create them ore where do i find the info
14:43 jcamins      Authority-controlled fields in bibliographic records can be linked to authorities for better colocation.
14:43 H            ok
14:43 jcamins      In this case, authors.
14:43 jcamins      Authorities are records that describe particular entities.
14:42 jcamins      Ah.
14:41 H            dont get the authority concept yet
14:41 jcamins      700 fields are used for authors.
14:41 jcamins      Why would you move them?
14:41 jcamins      You just need to create authority records for them -- assuming you don't already have -- and run the linker.
14:41 H            i still can move them so
14:41 H            wrong field ?
14:41 jcamins      700 fields are authority-controlled.
14:40 H            or do i move them to an other field ?
14:40 H            my authors are in field 700 how do i get them in the authoreties ...
14:36 H            i was looking at that button as you typed
14:35 jcamins      Sure. Disable OpacAuthorities.
14:34 H            can i hide it ?
14:34 jcamins      H: the "Browse by author or subject" page is for browsing authorities only.
14:34 H            define the field i wanna be searched
14:33 H            ehm change the possibilities
14:33 wahanui      oleonard: that doesn't look right
14:33 oleonard     H: Change the list? Do you mean change the text of the link?
14:30 H            Does annyone know where i can change the list in the opac for Browse by author or subject
14:24 kf           oleonard++ :)
14:21 kf           never used .each() so far :)
14:21 kf           trying to figure it out
14:21 kf           I was thiking that too, butnot sure about the right syntax
14:21 kf           yep
14:21 oleonard     kf: What I was thinking was that you could use .each() to loop over the links in the .online_resources span and put the links you want into a new array or string to output
14:19 kf           let me try something
14:19 kf           hmm
14:17 kf           but that's just moving the complete element around
14:17 kf           yes
14:16 oleonard     kf: Do you have code that copies the online resources link to the holdings tab?
14:14 kf           $(".online_resources a:contains('Read me')").remove();
14:14 kf           but the || don't look so nice
14:14 kf           I got that bit
14:14 kf           yes
14:14 oleonard     kf: You're trying to remove any link which contains "read me?"
14:14 kf           jcamins: :P
14:14 jcamins      kf: trout. Knitting. Garlic. Copper.
14:13 kf           could you throw some keywords at me? like which functions you would use?
14:13 kf           oleonard: trying to do that now... but still kinda stuck.
14:12 oleonard     kf: I think maybe grabbing the links you want and reformatting the whole thing might be better
14:09 WaylonR      thankyou muchly, jcamins
14:09 jcamins      WaylonR: received. I will send you a proposal.
14:09 kf           WaylonR++ :)
14:08 WaylonR      email sent, jcamins
14:08 kf           do you think it's possible? maybe just could pase out the links and put that back...
14:06 kf           [off] because I want to remove the read me links as per request by the library - and then it looks odd.
14:06 kf           [off] I am trying to remove the | in the online resources on https://mfo.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=202002
14:06 oleonard     yes
14:05 kf           oleonard: I got a jquery question... do you have a second?
14:05 magnuse      WaylonR++
14:04 jcamins      [off] Perfect. jcamins@cpbibliography.com
14:04 WaylonR      [off] yup. So yea, whats your email? ill forward the email he sent me, to you... then you email me back?
14:03 jcamins      [off] wrobertson1981@yahoo.co.nz?
14:03 jcamins      Sure.
14:03 WaylonR      Could you email me something I could forward to my boss? I might be able to get you the funds.
14:02 jcamins      Without the staff interface portion, the relevancy work would be $6k. The staff interface portion would be an additional $6k.
14:00 WaylonR      hmmm..... so for the relevancy and its related config interface, how much would you require?
14:00 kf           magnuse: me too
13:59 jcamins      I have a separate component in the search rewrite that would allow the librarian to configure relevance in the staff interface, which might be very helpful in your case.
13:59 * magnuse    wishes he had lots of money to throw at jcamins
13:57 jcamins      Yep. Right now the way we do relevancy is... somewhere between absurd and insane. With the search rewrite, I will adjust the relevancy to work more like one would expect, where titles and authors _really_ receive higher priority, and have it easily configurable using a configuration file.
13:53 WaylonR      thats what i mean, term + branch or branches limits order by relevancy
13:48 jcamins      It'd be more useful for something like "books && (branch:blah || branch:blah2)"
13:47 jcamins      If the only search is on branch:, though, I don't really see how relevancy ranking would help.
13:47 jcamins      WaylonR: yes.
13:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9339 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Intranet translation bar display en-GB when en is selected
13:46 oleonard     magnuse: Looks like I was in en-NZ instead of en. Hard to tell with Bug 9339 in effect.
13:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9233 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , Use unambiguous boolean operators for searches
13:46 jcamins      Though, per bug 9233 I think "branch:blah || branch:blah" is better.
13:45 WaylonR      so (search params) order by relevancy?
13:45 WaylonR      and can that work, with relevancy?
13:45 jcamins      Yes.
13:45 jcamins      Just as with right now, directly-entered CCL (ccl=...) queries would bypass relevancy.
13:45 magnuse      oleonard: i have seen that too, when nb-NO is the active language
13:45 WaylonR      hmmm... so doing like "branch: blah or branch: blah" will still work?
13:45 oleonard     Something is messed up with the pref files
13:44 jcamins      oleonard: to improve your language skills? :)
13:44 kf           oleonard: that sounds unfun?
13:44 kf           but helping to fund a proper fix would be better :)
13:44 * oleonard   wonders why his system is showing German descriptions for some preferences, French for others
13:44 kf           in 3.0.
13:44 kf           WaylonR: you could turn it off and go back to sort by publication year.
13:44 jcamins      Yes and no.
13:44 WaylonR      wow. yeah.. something i have no idea where to start. Will CCL based queries still work after all of it?
13:43 jcamins      Which is why I am so certain that trying to kludge a fix into 3.0 can only result in misery.
13:43 jcamins      It requires a nearly complete rewrite of C4::Search.
13:42 WaylonR      Im guessing its expert level code, and you already have a rough idea of how to do it yes?
13:42 WaylonR      hmmmmm...
13:41 jcamins      That's item 1(f) on the search rewrite, which is priced at $6,000.
13:41 WaylonR      yes.
13:41 jcamins      To do it properly?
13:40 jcamins      You can look at C4::Search::_build_weighted_query, but that is the extent of the time I'm spending on helping you screw up your system.
13:40 WaylonR      but how much would mandumah.com would have to pay you, to do the relevance related portions?
13:39 WaylonR      Well, it'll be a kludge only mandumah.com would use.
13:39 jcamins      But you know how I've been right every time you've asked about taking a shortcut?
13:39 jcamins      Well... I suppose if you were crazy you could.
13:39 jcamins      No.
13:39 WaylonR      i mean, could i hardcode some CCL to do it?
13:38 jcamins      Koha uses Zebra.
13:38 WaylonR      via zebra?
13:38 WaylonR      relevance searching?
13:38 jcamins      What about Zebra?
13:38 WaylonR      what about in zebra?
13:37 jcamins      Once the relevance-related portions of that are fully-funded I will fix it.
13:36 wahanui      hmmm... search rewrite is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/C_&_P_Search_Rewrite_RFC
13:36 jcamins      search rewrite?
13:36 jcamins      Not in any useful way, no.
13:36 WaylonR      does relevance ranking exist in current koha?
13:36 jcamins      Yes.
13:36 WaylonR      jcamins, this is relevance ranking im refering to?
13:35 druthb       Hi, jcamins!
13:35 magnuse      hiya jcamins
13:34 magnuse      hiya druthb
13:34 jcamins      WaylonR: there is nothing you can do about relevance ranking.
13:32 druthb       kia ora, magnuse!
13:32 magnuse      kia ora oleonard trea barriers
13:23 kf           barriers is making me nervous
13:17 druthb       :)  Hi, oleonard. :)
13:17 kf           hi druthb and oleonard :)
13:17 oleonard     Hi #koha
13:10 druthb       :)
13:05 huginn       kf: The operation succeeded.
13:05 kf           @later tell druthb I gave vfernandes permissions for pt language in pootle :)
13:03 huginn       kf: The operation succeeded.
13:03 kf           @later tell vfernandes I gave you permissions - now you can review suggestions - use your new power with wisdom :)
12:55 kf           go get your lunch :)
12:55 kf           i will take a look
12:53 vfernandes   vfernandes
12:53 kf           what's your user name on pootle?
12:52 vfernandes   yes
12:52 kf           was pt right?
12:52 kf           ah, I have the admin panel open
12:52 vfernandes   can we talk later, i'm going out for lunch...
12:52 vfernandes   yes
12:50 kf           vfernandes: still around?
12:43 kf           we are talking about portugese, right?
12:42 kf           vfernandes: i can check that, give me a moment
12:39 gerundio     see you guys later
12:39 gerundio     lunchtime now
12:38 gerundio     I thought vfernandes would see it, as I thought is was the pt-PT translation moderator
12:38 gerundio     I see the X button on my suggestion only
12:37 vfernandes   no
12:30 kf           and does one of you see the red/green buttons for moderating suggestions?
12:30 kf           sorry, brb
12:29 kf           hm?
12:27 gerundio     kf, about the "Add Comment", how do we make it stick there? :)
12:27 gerundio     vfernandes, there are some suggestions that really don't make sense to me too
12:26 kf           if that's the problem we can fix it I think :)
12:26 kf           and to see them, the options
12:26 kf           you need permission to moderate suggestions to do so
12:25 kf           and delete the suggestion when you x it
12:25 kf           it will automatically copy the suggestion into the field when you accept
12:25 kf           then there is an x and a... check thing you can click to moderate
12:25 kf           look for the link to the list of suggestions there
12:25 kf           you go to the review page
12:24 kf           and about suggestions
12:24 vfernandes   kf yes I added..
12:24 vfernandes   copy paste and submit
12:24 kf           vfernandes: about 1993 - if you added a test plan this could move on
12:24 vfernandes   that's what I do
12:24 gerundio     I clicked it, inserted the text but then I don't know how to save it
12:23 gerundio     btw, how can we use the Add comment feature
12:23 gerundio     don't really know, I guess you just copy + paste it and click submit
12:15 vfernandes   :D
12:15 vfernandes   by the way how it's possible to reject/accept suggestions?
12:13 vfernandes   83 in prefs - in this I think that the suggestions aren't that good
12:12 vfernandes   * 6 in staff
12:12 vfernandes   9 in staff
12:12 vfernandes   there is around 900 suggestions in OPAC
12:09 vfernandes   but when I was doing the translation I used many suggestions
12:07 vfernandes   I know that are many suggestions but it's almost impossible to do moderation :/
12:06 vfernandes   for me it's quickly to change than do moderation
12:05 gerundio     and I see there are a few more waiting for moderation
12:04 gerundio     I submitted one a while ago
12:04 gerundio     vfernandes, have you looked at the suggestions on the 3.8 translations?
12:02 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1993 enhancement, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, Failed QA , Task Scheduler Needs Re-write
12:02 vfernandes   i would like to see bug 1993 solved... :P
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11:55 wahanui      somebody said search rewrite was http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/C_&_P_Search_Rewrite_RFC
11:55 kf           search rewrite?
11:54 kf           WaylonR: you might want to talk to jcamins_away about relevance ranking
11:54 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9341 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Problem with UNIMARC authors facets
11:54 vfernandes   bug 9341 - solved :)
11:52 WaylonR      or is this search ranking feature, only a possiblity in later versions?
11:52 WaylonR      We are getting complaints of non-relevance, even though its the keywords that is matching, not the title.
11:51 WaylonR      Okay, my question of the day, koha 3.0.0, how do i make biblios with Titles with the search term in them, appear before purely keyword results, with the search term not in the title?
11:50 WaylonR      Happy new year to all.
11:50 kf           happy new year :)
11:50 kf           hi WaylonR
11:49 WaylonR      hiya all!
11:47 kf           hm german library statistic asks for the number of searches in the opac. hm.
11:38 vfernandes   but first I will confirm with a librarian if 70Xa if always filled with a comma
11:37 vfernandes   the patch is extra small... is only to change the sep to ' ' instead of ', '
11:36 kf           vfernandes: of course :)
11:36 vfernandes   should I fill a bug and send a patch?
11:34 vfernandes   and when the separator is "," there will be a double comma
11:34 vfernandes   the problem is the following: 7XXa in UNIMARC is filled with "SURNAME,"
11:33 kf           it might be that it was forgotten to change that then
11:33 kf           the code was not too long ago changed to make it posible to include different fields and different subfields
11:33 * kf         nods
11:32 vfernandes   the problem is the sep
11:32 vfernandes   this is on Koha.pm
11:32 vfernandes   {                 idx   => 'au',                 label => 'Authors',                 tags  => [ qw/ 700ab 701ab 702ab / ],                 sep   => ', ',             },
11:31 gerundio     same thing, just a single comma
11:31 gerundio     vfernandes, http://lawlibrary.in.gov/ is also 3.8 MARC21
11:31 gerundio     kf, the title field does the trick, that installation has the title at 245 indeed
11:30 kf           could be dangerous :)
11:30 kf           be careful
11:29 vfernandes   i'm looking at the code of facet building...
11:28 vfernandes   yes, the link that gerundio said is MARC21
11:28 kf           for america it should be marc21 tho
11:28 kf           I think you might see it on the detail paes too, as they are different, but not sure where the differences are
11:27 vfernandes   unimarc title is field 200
11:27 vfernandes   yes
11:27 kf           unimarc in 200 I think?
11:27 kf           marc21 has the title in 245
11:27 kf           look at the marc view or export as marcxml
11:27 kf           from the data I think
11:27 kf           hm
11:26 gerundio     how can I tell if it's MARC21 or UNIMARC?
11:26 kf           cool :)
11:26 gerundio     Koha 3.0804000 on that one
11:26 kf           the version is always noted in a comment on top
11:26 gerundio     there's no double comma issue there
11:26 kf           gerundio: if you are not sure about the version, check the source code
11:26 gerundio     I assume those installations are using MARC21
11:25 gerundio     on the notes it states it's using v3.8
11:25 gerundio     I tried the Toronto Friends (Quaker) Library at http://tmm.xxvii.net/
11:24 gerundio     vfernandes, try some on this list: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaUsers/NorthAmerica
11:20 vfernandes   maybe... i would like to check a 3.8 installation with MARC21
11:19 kf           maybe it's unimarc specific
11:18 vfernandes   ok in that there isn't the double comma problem
10:59 kf           as an example
10:59 kf           [off] http://hfjs.bsz-bw.de
10:59 kf           we have lots :)
10:57 vfernandes   ok... can you send me a link to your OPAC?
10:54 kf           3.6 and MARC21
10:53 magnuse      vfernandes: 3.8 yes, marc21 no :-(
10:53 vfernandes   I want to check if the double comma in the authors facets are a bug or not
10:52 vfernandes   magnuse or kf are you using 3.8 and MARC21?
10:34 magnuse      kf++
10:32 kf           np :)
10:32 gerundio     thanks a lot for the help
10:32 kf           I haven't used it so far, only did some testing for sign-offs
10:32 gerundio     but I think this might do just what we want :)
10:32 gerundio     I'll read the documentation on this feature to better understand it
10:32 gerundio     that's exactly what I want to do
10:32 kf           it's supposed to update the date last seen when you do the inventory, so I thought it could work - but not sure what you want to do
10:31 kf           yep :)
10:31 gerundio     I found the Inventory/Stocktaking under Tools, I guess that's what you meant, right?
10:29 gerundio     not sure what you mean with "inventory module and a barcode file", could you add some detail to that please?
10:28 gerundio     kf, the Batch item modification feature doesn't allow the update of the datelastseen field :|
10:28 H            fighting with nullmailer here annyne had smtp: Failed: 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay
10:22 kf           or update in items via sql and do a complete reindex
10:21 kf           or using the inventory module and a barcode file
10:21 kf           but not sure if the field is available there
10:21 kf           I think you could maybe do it using the batch functionality
10:20 gerundio     is there any way to bulk update datelastseen for biblio items?
10:15 kf           fun :)
10:15 vfernandes   lolol
10:15 vfernandes   i will do it later... now it's time for XSLT
10:13 vfernandes   thanks kf
10:11 kf           vfernandes: mail sent :)
10:06 vfernandes   kf: thanks.... it's a UNIMARC installation
10:05 kf           vfernandes: I am about to answer your mail on updating translation files
10:03 gerundio     and thanks for the tip on bz
10:03 gerundio     kf, it's UNIMARC
10:02 kf           gerundio: you can see on bugzilla :)
10:02 kf           vfernandes: is that for unimarc or marc21?
10:01 vfernandes   I don't know if in 3.8 with MARC21 the same happens
10:01 vfernandes   in my 3.8 happens the same thing
10:00 gerundio     I see, always a double comma yes
10:00 vfernandes   I think it's that Koha is putting a extra comma in the tt file
10:00 vfernandes   look at authors... there is a double comma
10:00 vfernandes   gerundio: go to your OPAC, do a search and check your refine search facets
09:59 gerundio     vfernandes, tell me about it
09:59 vfernandes   hi gerundio... yesterday I saw what maybe is a bug
09:59 gerundio     kf, have no ideia what her mail address his :|
09:57 gerundio     good morning vfernandes
09:55 kf           gerundio: I think druthb_away has to fix that, maybe drop her a mail
09:55 vfernandes   hello all
09:53 gerundio     still getting a permission denied error while trying to download translation files (http://translate.koha-community.org/pt/38/pt-PT-pref.po/download/)
09:53 gerundio     Error accessing /var/www/Pootle/po/38/pt/pt-PT-pref.po, Filesystem sent error: Permission denied"
09:53 gerundio     "An error has occurred. Thank you for your patience.
09:53 gerundio     good morning
09:51 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @BulganUgur: "#kohails Sabah 08.20 itibariyle KOHA 3.10.1 e geçmiş bulunuyoruz."
09:15 kf           Happy new year :)
09:04 asaurat      yeah!! happy new year :)
09:02 H            All a happy year (in and out Koha)
08:14 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @jransom: "Amazing! RT @ranginui: nearly 200 people at the inagural portugal #kohails meeting http://t.co/dhUG0hEz"
07:54 magnuse      ...and reiveune and lms
07:54 magnuse      kia ora rangi
07:48 reiveune     hello
07:46 rangi        hi lms
07:34 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @ranginui: "nearly 200 people at the inagural portugal #kohails meeting http://t.co/vOhuT5In"
07:25 cait         evening rangi
07:25 rangi        evening
07:16 cait         nice :)
07:04 magnuse      wow, 200 attendees at the meeting in portugal!
07:00 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.8°C (7:55 AM CET on January 03, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Rising).
07:00 cait         @wunder Konstanz
06:48 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (7:20 AM CET on January 03, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady).
06:48 magnuse      @wunder boo
06:47 cait         hiya magnuse
06:43 magnuse      hiya cait and #koha
06:38 cait         good morning #koha
04:28 druthb       Hi, Oak!
04:27 * Oak        waves