Time Nick Message 23:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #1000 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:45 rangi sweet 23:45 jcamins 9052 pushed. 23:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9052' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa7ac570b2d551ce8c537f0bac31f803c379e6ce> / Bug 9052 - followup: fix the YUI CSS locations for SCO <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e24bcabb05d0716711c894f07cf7b05b59bc0086> 22:51 eythian hello 22:51 * wizzyrea waves 22:51 bag heya eythian wizzyrea and jcamins (oh yeah rangi too) :) 22:48 eythian http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/505f11bc40c24-bloooooooooooooooooooooooo.php 22:39 jcamins lol 22:39 wizzyrea or the water was catnip tea 22:38 jcamins Yeah, I was wondering if there was a cat toy out of sight of the camera. 22:37 wizzyrea and the cat who can't help himself from jumping in the barrel. 22:37 wizzyrea I like the slowly rising cat. 22:36 jcamins I like the cat closing the door. 22:36 jcamins Hehe. 22:35 jcamins Aww. 22:32 wizzyrea jcamins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LuMu1u_UCM&feature=endscreen&NR=1 22:30 wizzyrea i like that one better 22:30 wizzyrea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgjOSGTDoy8 22:29 rangi imagine having those on your farm 22:29 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Aw43FUCkIb8 22:13 jcamins lol 22:13 wizzyrea that baby is concerned his mom will buy some bras. 22:13 wahanui https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6907136512/h0FB4BFFA/ 22:13 rangi concerned 22:11 jcamins And, "hi." 22:11 jcamins He also says that reading is unnecessary. 22:10 rangi i'm concerned 22:10 wizzyrea myshkin should start a blog. 22:10 jcamins Myshkin suggests that one does not need to see the computer in order to type. 22:07 wizzyrea she probably can't see well enough now to do it :( 22:06 wizzyrea the reason I say that is that when she was in her 80's, she was using a computer to write her history 22:06 wizzyrea (she's still alive) 22:06 wizzyrea she would have been 90 about 13 years ago 22:05 wizzyrea well, if the blogging software had been as good then as it is now 22:05 wizzyrea if the internet had been around when my grandma was in her early 90's I bet she would have started a blog 22:05 eythian phew, over-christmas-email-pile: cleared! 22:03 jcamins Yeah, Makefile.PL mixes up the "Koha installation" and "Koha instance configuration" steps. 22:03 eythian (of course, them being quite different I guess is why it'd require significant work) 22:02 eythian heh OK 22:02 eythian jcamins: hmm. Though running the Makefile.PL and koha-create are quite different things in terms of how they do things. But I do like the idea of sharing templates. 22:02 jcamins I'm also thinking I'm not doing the work, so that was all just speculative, and now that I've finished speculating, I guess I'd better go wash some more dishes. 22:01 jcamins eythian: I'm thinking if we eliminated the divide between the templates for packages and for tarballs that would be nice. 22:01 rangi heh 22:01 eythian http://youtu.be/eWEjvCRPrCo <-- no, rangi 22:00 rangi this is what the internet is for 22:00 rangi http://greycavalier.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/intotheunknown/ 22:00 jcamins eythian: so that instead of using Makefile.PL you run koha-create mykoha. 22:00 rangi 92 year old starts a blog 22:00 jcamins But the only reason it can't be done is that none of us have the free time. 22:00 eythian jcamins: general how? 21:59 rangi yep 21:59 jcamins I mean, obviously that would require changes to Makefile.PL and some file organization. 21:59 rangi only that the files dont exist in the right places on a non package install 21:59 jcamins Yeah. 21:58 rangi the koha-create etc? 21:58 wizzyrea afk just a min 21:58 rambutan Agree, we're really got to get past it. 21:58 jcamins rangi: I had a thought: is there any reason the Debian scripts couldn't be general? 21:58 wizzyrea I just think it's a red herring, liability. 21:58 rambutan I'd like to offer a few simple classes on the Pi and Arduino, and see how much interest there is around here. 21:57 rambutan yea, we're already planning on doing waivers for things like our e- lab. (A very modest e- lab certainly). 21:57 wizzyrea as long as the library isn't negligent. 21:56 wizzyrea and that would be legally binding. libraries could easily do that. 21:56 wizzyrea that said "if he dies, it's not our fault" 21:56 rambutan We're not going to do woodworking with power saws and all that, but certainly the 3D printing and scanning part. 21:56 wizzyrea playspace 21:56 wizzyrea ffs, I had to sign a waiver when I took spud to a indoor plaspace 21:55 rambutan My director, quite luckily (I think!) is very supportive of the idea. 21:55 wizzyrea make them sign a waiver. 21:55 rangi much easier here 21:55 rangi oh yeah i keep forgetting about that 21:55 wizzyrea and the liability thing 21:55 rangi if you give them a safe place to store it 21:55 rambutan Afraid of liability and not having thousands of coins to buy equipment 21:55 wizzyrea someone would have to be capable to oversee the equipment 21:55 rangi mostly makers will bring their own stuff 21:55 rangi yeah, the $$ is much more soluble 21:54 wizzyrea it might be too popular. 21:54 wizzyrea fear. SO MUCH FEAR. 21:54 rambutan fear and $$ 21:54 wizzyrea was/is 21:54 wizzyrea at least it was in kansas 21:54 wizzyrea but getting them to sign on to this idea is harder than it sounds. 21:54 wizzyrea oh yea, I agree 21:53 rangi libaries should totally have makerspaces in them 21:53 rambutan Yep, one of the big issues. I suppose some Blender and Inkscape learning are in store for us. 21:50 wizzyrea you'll have to be into it - someone has to teach people how to use the printers 21:49 rangi cool 21:47 rambutan We're buying some 3D printers, so I'm getting into the Maker thing. 21:46 rangi that'd be pretty sweet 21:46 rambutan I liOK, so you integrate this with koha: http://rasterweb.net/raster/tag/make/ and every koha library world-wide uses it to do a scrolling display of the koha holdings of each nation. 21:44 wizzyrea ty 21:44 wizzyrea ooo 21:43 eythian http://www.youtube.com/html5 <-- wizzyrea 21:43 jcamins "Chop its head off and crush it with a kniiiiiiiife." 21:43 jcamins The Pad Thai video is made of win. 21:42 wizzyrea ...which was so awesome it crashed flash. 21:42 wizzyrea buffalo seitan bites. 21:41 eythian oh right 21:41 wizzyrea right, crumbled boca burgers. 21:40 rangi it's "meat" 21:40 eythian that's not very vegan. 21:40 wizzyrea "add an axe or two of meat" 21:40 wizzyrea hehehe 21:40 wizzyrea perhaps so 21:39 eythian I guess it would be more useful if I were writing something Lovecraftian. 21:39 wizzyrea it's for cooking ^.^ 21:39 eythian I didn't. But I have a bottle of ink in my drawer here anyway, I don't write enough to go through it fast. 21:39 wizzyrea eythian: did you know they have squid ink there? 21:38 wizzyrea lool. 21:38 wizzyrea "weird wednesday" 21:38 rangi https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6905712128/hB4EE1988/ 21:38 eythian this reminds me, I need to go spend time at the mediterranian food place down the road one day soon. 21:37 wizzyrea really you ought to be going for chiles. 21:37 wizzyrea it is not very mexican with loads of sriracha. 21:37 wizzyrea now I do have one quibble with this recipe 21:37 wizzyrea \o/ 21:37 eythian it's what happens after a break I guess :) 21:36 wizzyrea highly giggleworthy. 21:36 wizzyrea eythian is on a roll today. 21:34 eythian *consecrating the dishes 21:34 * jcamins takes his laptop into the other room so he can watch them all while washing dishes. 21:33 rangi heh 21:33 jcamins "Sesame tofu from the abyss" 21:33 jcamins "Blackest of the black beans." 21:31 jcamins That was awesome! 21:30 eythian you need to run it through a crypto hashbrown first. 21:30 rangi hehe i suspect that's fine :) 21:30 liw rangi, how strict are the randomness criteria? is a brain-generated mock-random movement pattern sufficient? :-) 21:27 * wizzyrea decides not to make a lewd joke. 21:26 rangi best cooking instruction yet 21:26 rangi "poke at them randomly" 21:26 rangi hehe 21:26 * wizzyrea still occasionally chants "cut the tofu, turn the plate!" 21:25 wizzyrea vbmc is quite funny. 21:25 jcamins lol 21:23 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mbV0VhlIzzo#! 21:23 rangi jcamins: i have a new recipe for you 21:20 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMAtL7n_-rc <-- scott joplin 21:19 eythian rangi: right on both counts. 21:18 wizzyrea kekeke 21:18 rangi (its a low bar) 21:18 eythian it's accurate within a tiny percentage. 21:18 rangi altho that is by far the best silverchair song 21:18 wizzyrea silly robin, two thousand THIRTEEN, not two thousand. 21:17 rangi hells no 21:17 eythian http://youtu.be/ShiShrR_nh8 <-- not this? 21:11 rangi i think to end 2012, we should throw on a bit of janis joplin https://soundcloud.com/bobby-busnach/janis-joplin-try-the-bobby 21:07 wizzyrea take that! 21:04 jcamins lol 21:04 trea well played 21:03 rangi heh 21:03 wahanui OK, eythian. 21:03 eythian wahanui: merry christmas is <reply>https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6920411136/h6CA48D60/ 20:50 wahanui hi, eythian 20:50 eythian hi 20:49 jcamins lol 20:48 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/I_want_to_help#OMGWTFBBQ.21 and made a new category 20:48 rangi i added another to the list of easy stuff 20:48 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/I_want_to_help#Low_hanging_fruit 20:48 rangi speaking of that 20:48 jcamins I can't seem to get the 130th to download. 20:47 jcamins Well, 129 so far. 20:44 jcamins project_gutenberg++ 20:44 jcamins 130. 20:44 jcamins I just downloaded... 20:44 rangi heh 20:43 jcamins I think I should have enough cookbooks to keep me occupied for a while. 20:43 wahanui good news is it looks like it's running properly. 20:43 jcamins Good news... 20:42 rambutan hey 20:42 wizzyrea oh hai :) 20:41 user00 Pretty good stuff, as long as you don't read the nutritional information on the package. Actually, the calorie count isn't terribly high. 20:41 wizzyrea that's not precisely the thing I was thinking of 20:40 user00 yep, 20:40 wizzyrea :) 20:40 wizzyrea oh well with rice it's the blanc 20:40 wizzyrea boudin is just the sausage apparently 20:39 user00 I just got back from the Lake Charles, LA area last week, and was introduced to it. 20:39 wizzyrea (and mostly in the southern US) 20:39 wizzyrea I have heard that referred to as "Dirty Rice" 20:39 user00 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudin 20:38 jcamins I have not. 20:37 user00 rice mixed with sausage 20:37 user00 jcamins: have you heard of boudin? (Wikipedia suggests I should refer to it, perhaps, as Boudin blanc.) 20:34 jcamins user00: they do when there's meat in it. 20:33 user00 *wonders* do cats like fried rice? 20:29 jcamins Thanks. 20:27 rangi good newsletter jcamins_away 20:20 wahanui morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. 20:20 jcamins_away Morning. 20:19 rangi morning 19:43 wizzyrea oh yes. fried rice is a good plan 19:40 jcamins_away An inspired way to use up the leftover rice and the leftover roast beef. 19:39 * jcamins_away is just finishing up a delicious lunch of fried rice. 19:38 jcamins_away Hello. 19:38 wizzyrea :) 19:38 wizzyrea also, good <time of day> 19:38 wizzyrea ) 19:38 wizzyrea (unknown to me - I think I did not set that bit up, I think it's an external service like yahoo pipes or similar. 19:38 wizzyrea i.e. it requires some interval 19:38 wizzyrea I suspect that the twitter pickup doesn't happen straight away 19:38 jcamins_away I thought you fixed it, actually. 19:37 wizzyrea yay cool 19:37 jcamins_away wizzyrea: it would seem so. 19:37 wizzyrea jcamins_away: did you get your issues sorted out? 18:20 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @27point7: "Intéressant bilan des premières semaines du du RM de la version 3.12 RM (#1) http://t.co/lkXVdIQb #kohails" 16:28 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Monthly missive from the 3.12 RM (#1) http://t.co/YTNNgH0v" 15:48 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @nengard: "Learn how to help out with the #kohails project: http://t.co/0dC1vkil #opensource" 14:01 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. 14:01 jcamins_away @later tell wizzyrea I think I did something wrong, because cait says it isn't on Twitter. 13:56 cait1 jcamins_away: oups 13:42 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. 13:42 jcamins_away @later tell wizzyrea If any changes need to be made to my newsletter so that it means the website's conventions (tags, SEO, whatever), please feel free to make them without checking with me first. 13:40 jcamins_away Hooray! 13:40 jcamins_away *Three* caits! 13:40 jcamins_away Two caits? 02:03 jcamins_away http://koha-community.org/monthly-missive-3-12-rm-1/ <-- I wrote a newsletter