Time Nick Message 00:40 wizzyrea hm 00:42 wizzyrea do you think it is better to have an item, once assigned to a reserve, be assigned forever (for example, place a reserve, mark it waiting, then demote it to a priority - it turns from an "any available" to an "only item") or should a demoted hold lose it's itemnumber? 00:42 wizzyrea and go back to being an "any item" 00:44 rangi hmm the latter i think 00:45 wizzyrea I just noticed this when I was playing around - it explains a lot of things about how reserves end up the way they do 00:46 wizzyrea I think a demoted hold should lose it's itemnumber too - since you are basically putting it back in the pot with the rest of the reserves again 00:46 wizzyrea why is that one item sacred 00:46 rangi yeah 00:48 cait demoted? 00:48 wizzyrea like moved from "waiting" to priority 1, for example 00:49 wizzyrea idk why you would do this but 00:49 wizzyrea @quote get 123 00:49 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 00:49 cait :) 00:49 wizzyrea i'm looking at bug 8451 00:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8451 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Confusing and problematic double prompt for processing transfers 00:50 wizzyrea I think not seeing the double prompt is probably more of a problem than seeing it, in all truth - until/unless transfers reference the reserve that they go with, it's going to continue to be a problem to differentiate between plan transfers and reserve transfers. 00:50 cait wizzyrea++ 00:51 wizzyrea s/plan/plain/ 00:51 cait not sure I can follow 00:51 cait but i was wondering about htis one and very glad you are takinga look at it 00:51 wizzyrea double prompts in certain situations is a very, very old bug 00:52 wizzyrea this is probably one of the last of its kind, so that's good. :) 00:52 wizzyrea but we have to be careful when smooshing it 00:57 wizzyrea also interesting, if you have two more or less identical transfers, excepting the bit about how they got there, they are both completed when the non-reserve transfer is completed. 00:58 cait ok pretty sure this is going over my head righ tnow :) 00:58 wizzyrea hehe 00:58 wizzyrea transfers and holds are tricky business. 00:58 wizzyrea and i'm not just saying that. 01:00 ibeardslee typing it 01:00 wizzyrea ^^ 01:02 * wizzyrea boggles, why would one set a date arrived before the item was actually sent 01:02 wizzyrea oh god I've gone down the reserves rabbit hole. 01:04 * cait hopes you will find your way back 01:05 wizzyrea well that's reasonably smart - if an item has a reserve transit on it, and someone adds a manual transfer, it transfers from the reserve transfer's destination instead of the current logged in branch. 01:07 rangi http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ check it 01:09 wizzyrea ...but it still says both are arrived 01:09 wizzyrea lulz 01:09 wizzyrea and that's quite good, rangi 01:09 wizzyrea pretty :) 01:11 rangi refresh ;) 01:12 cait so cool 01:22 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ranginui: "revamped the #kohails dashboard for the new year http://t.co/NPeDHjf7" 01:26 cait rangi++ 01:26 cait so pretty 01:33 wizzyrea can you think of a reason why the same item would be going from branch a to branch b, branch a to branch c, and branch a to branch d all at the same time? 01:34 * wizzyrea didn't know this was possible. 01:34 wizzyrea oh, it's not 01:34 rangi heh nope 01:34 wizzyrea because it assumes that the tobranch is the next frombranch 01:34 wizzyrea SNEAKY 01:35 wizzyrea that is... unexpected behavior. 01:35 * wizzyrea wonders if it holds through that 01:35 * wizzyrea tries 01:35 rangi hmm i wonder if there is a way to query huginn from the dashboard 01:35 * rangi wants to add a random quote by the random bug 01:36 rangi @quote random 01:36 huginn rangi: Quote #153: "<rangi> merging code in git doesn't make me angry, I just think back to svn and cvs, and git could punch me in the face and it would still be better" (added by gmcharlt at 07:49 PM, September 13, 2011) 01:36 rangi it's still true 01:36 wizzyrea hehehehe 01:39 cait :) 01:39 cait night all :) 01:43 ibeardslee probably wouldn't want to roll the random quote over so often? 01:44 rangi yeah i can wind that down some 01:45 rangi should be twice as long now (after a reload anyway) 01:46 ibeardslee random bug would want to roll over more often than the random quote 01:46 rangi yeah 01:47 rangi probably do the random quote at around 10 mins 01:48 JDatTeTakere Hi everyone. We have an error here at Te Takere I hope someone can help me with. 01:48 rangi fire away JDatTeTakere 01:48 wizzyrea hi, go ahead :) 01:49 JDatTeTakere Hi guys :-) When renewing 2 items I'm getting a software error "No branchcode argument to new. Should be C4::Calendar->new(branchcode => $branchcode) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Circulation.pm line 2709". Google Search suggested the items had no current location. I searched them both and they have one. 01:50 rangi does the borrower? 01:51 JDatTeTakere Yes as long as I'm looking in the right place. 01:52 rangi id try editing one item and set the branch for both home and current branch 01:52 rangi then try renewing it again 01:53 rangi and you choose a branch when you logged into the staff client eh? 01:54 rangi those are the 3 places it cares about branches, the borrowers, the items, and the one you have set 01:55 JDatTeTakere Tried that - the prob first occured on desk and I'm now on my PC so not the client. Have edited items, still can't renew. 01:56 rangi if you give me the barcodes i can take a look :) 01:57 JDatTeTakere Thanks Chris - borrower = K00015678 01:57 JDatTeTakere Items = the 2 on that borrower 01:57 rangi righto 01:58 rangi hmm yeah thats an odd one they look fine 01:59 rangi merry christmas by the way :) 01:59 rangi i hope it was nice and relaxing 01:59 JDatTeTakere The current location WAS missing, when I clicked Edit they were there but I clicked save anyway. 01:59 rangi *nod* 01:59 rangi thats normally what it is 01:59 rangi and that usually fixes it 02:00 JDatTeTakere Merry Christmas to you too. 02:00 JDatTeTakere Hope wizzyrea enjoyed her hot summer. 02:00 wizzyrea I did! 02:00 wizzyrea today is much cooler :) 02:00 wizzyrea almost chilly! 02:01 JDatTeTakere I'm still suffering though - got sunburnt on Xmas Day. Ouch. 02:01 * wizzyrea was not expecting 30c 02:01 wizzyrea s/c/C/ 02:01 wizzyrea 29.8 at the airport, I guess. 02:01 wizzyrea ouch 02:01 wizzyrea ! 02:02 JDatTeTakere Was 34 at my place. 02:02 wizzyrea holy smokes. 02:03 wizzyrea jransom said she did a lot of swimming an lounging, I suspect your day was similar? 02:04 JDatTeTakere Lounging yes. Swimming = soaking in small paddling pool. 02:04 JDatTeTakere Any other ideas rangi? 02:04 wizzyrea hey that works 02:04 rangi hmm still hunting round 02:05 rangi ahh i think i know the problem 02:05 rangi in the issues table the issuingbranch is set to null 02:06 rangi it will be trying to find the branch of where they were issued 02:06 rangi and cant find it 02:06 rangi to work out the renewal rules 02:06 rangi ill fix those 2 rows 02:06 rangi when it got issued, it must have had the currentbranch not set 02:07 rangi thats how it got in this pickle 02:07 rangi yep that was it 02:08 rangi i just renewed psychic ok 02:08 JDatTeTakere Thanks rangi. Apparently this is happening a fair bit. I should be able to run a report shouldn't I, identifying any items with no current location? 02:08 rangi yep, i just fixed them all in the issues table 02:08 rangi but yes finding any items that dont have the current location set would be a good report 02:08 JDatTeTakere Thanks...and I just did the other one. 02:08 rangi that will stop it happening again 02:08 rangi my bet its something to do with the return chutes not setting location or something 02:09 rangi but thats just a guess 02:09 JDatTeTakere Thanks heaps for that. Much appreciated. 02:09 rangi no worries 02:09 rangi be good to do that report and see how many arent set and then we can track down why 02:09 JDatTeTakere That returns chute is a bit of a problem isn't it. 02:09 JDatTeTakere Will keep you posted re: report results. Happy New Year to you both. 02:09 rangi yeah, it certainly throws up some curly ones 02:09 rangi and to you too 02:43 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @maryakem: "via @jordanheit RT @libriotech "To standalone or not to standalone" http://t.co/K1JwLW9q #kohails #lod #semantikoha #marcmustdie" 03:52 jcamins_away wizzyrea++ 03:56 wizzyrea what? 03:56 jcamins_away 3.6.11. 03:56 wizzyrea oh yes that :) 03:56 * wizzyrea hopes it's not broken 03:56 * wizzyrea doubts it 03:56 wizzyrea go to bed. 03:56 wizzyrea it is late 03:56 wizzyrea well what, 10pm? 03:56 jcamins_away 11 03:57 jcamins_away We're eating popcorn post-Les Mis. 03:58 jcamins_away Real popcorn that I successfully popped on the stove-top without burning the building down. 03:59 jcamins_away (I always thought it was a lot harder) 03:59 wizzyrea naw, popcorn is really easy if you just pay attention :) 04:00 wizzyrea gracious, time to go 04:00 wizzyrea whee! 04:00 wizzyrea ttyl :) hope les mis was fun and good! 08:01 Joubu hello 08:01 wahanui hi, Joubu 08:08 francharb hello 08:08 wahanui niihau, francharb 08:33 cait good morning #koha 08:37 cait Joubu++ 08:38 cait @wunder Konstanz 08:38 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 5.0°C (9:35 AM CET on December 27, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 08:38 cait @wunder Reutlingen 08:38 huginn cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 9.0°C (9:36 AM CET on December 27, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 08:39 Joubu cait: ? :) 08:39 cait lots of qa work :) 08:40 cait http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ 08:41 Joubu a new dashboard! 08:41 cait yep 08:42 cait rangi did it last night 09:10 cait Joubu: I think you just made drojf very happy :) 09:15 Joubu cait: yes and many librarians I think, it is a great feature! 09:15 cait :) 09:16 cait brb 10:23 WaqarAzeem Hi, I think rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v is not deleting the old index data ... I need to clear all old indexed data 10:23 * magnuse waves 10:29 cait hi magnuse :) 10:30 magnuse kia ora cait 10:44 cait magnuse: did you have nice holidays? 10:47 magnuse cait: yup, except getting a cold... 10:47 cait oh 10:47 cait oleonard got the same gift he said 10:47 * cait sends hot lemon juice with honey 10:47 magnuse yay 11:10 cait Joubu: are you still around? 11:16 cait Joubu: I am starting to look at 8190 11:19 Joubu cait: yep, sorry. i'm back 11:19 cait no need to be sorry :) 11:21 cait there are someconflicts 11:21 cait I will try to fix them- update database and dependencies 11:24 cait still reading all the comments... 12:35 WaqarAzeem Hi, I have droped the database and re-run the web-installer with ICU option ... but somehow .. zebra indexer is not indexing the data again ... neighter it is deleting the old data ... cron job starts after 10 min and exists without donig any thing. Is this some sort of side effect of deleting the database? 13:26 oleonard Hi #koha 13:27 cait hi oleonard :) 13:27 cait how is the cold? 13:28 oleonard The same :| 13:29 oleonard I would take time off work to rest, but my kids are at home all day for holiday break, so I wouldn't get any rest ;) 13:30 magnuse much better to get some rest at work then ;-) 13:35 oleonard magnuse: Exactly! 13:37 * cait sends oleonard lemon juice with honey too 14:42 oleonard I get lots of errors when I run 'translate install' or 'translate update.' Is that normal? 14:42 oleonard "Use of uninitialized value #key in hash element at /usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm..." 14:43 oleonard $key, not #key, of course. 14:45 cait I think there is a bug forthat 14:45 cait maybe druthb could take a look 14:45 cait fredericd said it's to do with some comments I think 14:46 cait which language did you try? 14:48 oleonard en-NZ. I've seen the same error with fr-FR I think 14:50 oleonard Didn't we decide that strings inside the _( ) function should be quoted always with double quotes instead of single quotes? 14:50 oleonard i.e. _('Don\'t do this') 14:50 oleonard _("Do this"); 14:50 cait yepI think so 15:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #991 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #987 7 days 1 hr ago) 15:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9206: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9d40f74bbde0772aabcf2dc6ba82fac7db4b88e> / Bug 9206: Followup QA FIX <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fc4be502d27d77a653f66fb9ea7de50560cfca6> / Bug 9206 - Only allow place holds in records that the patron don't have in his posses... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitd 15:05 * chris_n thinks its great when the rm gets push :) 15:05 chris_n s/push/pushy/ 15:08 cait hehe 15:08 cait yes :) 15:10 cait jcamins++ 15:10 cait @karma jcamins 15:10 huginn cait: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 474 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 472. 15:15 cait have you all seen the revamped dashboard? http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ :) 15:16 jcamins I did, yes. 15:16 jcamins Very nice! 15:19 * cait is trying to make the log messages show up in the source code 15:19 cait bug 8190 15:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8190 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add a logging module to Koha, that can report log message to staff interface (for developer use) 15:20 oleonard Bootstrappy 15:20 cait hm? 15:20 oleonard The new dashboard 15:20 cait oh 15:20 cait :) 15:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Add Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel to history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d7ad3fb83e22188cc6775f73dcaba31653438a8> / Bug 9315: Bad version of String::Random reported by koha_perl_deps.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f50a30b03abe8c6055d75012b0e425e1ef75ad3> / Merge branch 'bug_7368' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commi 15:32 cait Joubu++ 15:39 cait hm bah. 15:39 cait Log system is not correctly configured (Can't call method "opened" on an undefined value at /usr/share/perl5/Log/LogLite.pm line 42. ) at /home/katrin/kohaclone/Koha/Utils/Logger.pm line 50. 15:43 cait Joubu: any cluewhat i am doing wrong? 15:49 jcamins Joubu: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Database_updates 15:49 jcamins Anything I'm missing? 15:50 jcamins Oh, the .pl has to be executable. 15:53 Joubu jcamins: you forgot to notify the misc/updatedb.pl script (with the -all option) 15:53 Joubu cait: Have you your KOHA_LOG environment variable defined to an existing file ? 15:53 jcamins Ooh, right... I don't say how to install updates at all. 15:53 cait yes 15:53 cait I created a new file 15:54 cait that's my line from the apache configuration 15:54 cait SetEnv KOHA_LOG "/home/katrin/koha-dev/var/log/opac.log" 15:54 Joubu cait: the file must have writing right for www-data 15:54 cait that could be the problem, let me check 15:55 cait hm looks liek this 15:55 cait -rw-rw-r-- 1 katrin katrin 15:58 jcamins Joubu: I can't see anywhere what setting needs to be changed in koha-conf.xml to allow people to apply non-numeric updates. 16:02 Joubu jcamins: it is the DEBUG env var 16:03 jcamins Joubu: hm, okay. 16:04 jcamins I don't see any reference to that either. 16:04 Joubu jcamins: in the commit message, search "DEBUG" 16:05 Joubu jcamins: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=13851 16:05 jcamins Oh, I see it in the message, just not in C4::Update::Database. 16:06 Joubu jcamins: it is just a hidden/shown link in the template 16:06 jcamins Ohhh. 16:06 cait ok, can someone help me with file permissions? 16:07 cait I have the dumb today. 16:07 jcamins Okay, now I understand. 16:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #991: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/991/ 16:07 jenkins_koha * mirko: Bug 8377 [ENH] Show HTML5 video/ audio for media files in OPAC and staff client 16:07 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8377: Followup move style in a css file and do not pass template to a pm 16:07 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8377: Increment version number 16:07 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8377 follow-up: fix update message 16:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Master , Show HTML5 video/ audio for media files in OPAC and staff client 16:07 jenkins_koha * vfernandes: Bug 9206 - Only allow place holds in records that the patron don't have in his possession 16:07 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 9206 - Only allow place holds in records that the patron don't have in his possession - QA Followup 16:07 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9206: Followup QA FIX 16:07 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9206: Increment version number 16:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9206 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Only allow place holds in records that the patron don't have in his possession 16:08 Joubu cait: for a easy test you can set your KOHA_LOG == LOG 16:08 jcamins I thought it was some sort of magic in list_versions, and I wasn't finding it. 16:09 cait Joubu: hm then it will end up in the existing logs? 16:09 Joubu cait: yes 16:09 cait I think I might have figured it out now 16:10 jcamins Okay... 16:10 jcamins Joubu: I revised the page. Anything else I am missing? 16:10 cait Joubu: I have something in the file now, but not in the HTML source 16:12 oleonard @later tell rangi The "Needs Signoff" link from the new dashboard doesn't work. Bugzilla says the search doesn't exist. 16:12 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded. 16:12 Joubu jcamins: maybe a line about the C4::Context::final_linear_version routine? In order to be exhaustive 16:13 Joubu cait: Have you switch on the syspref ? 16:13 jcamins Joubu: I'm the only one who will touch that, though. 16:14 Joubu LogToHtmlComments 16:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #992 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #987 7 days 2 hr ago) 16:23 cait Joubu: yes, switched on 16:23 cait sorry, had to open the door 16:24 cait maybe I still have something wrong with my permissions? 16:25 cait how should the perms look like? 16:25 cait my koha user is katrin 16:27 Joubu cait: I forgot 1 point, sorry... In fact the log displayed on your screen are only log written by the Logger module. 16:27 Joubu not all logs in your file 16:27 cait Joubu: i know :) I am looking and opac-search 16:27 Joubu ok :) 16:27 cait because I saw that there is an example in the patch for that file 16:27 cait and the file content has all my searches now 16:27 cait only struggling with the embed to html bit right now 16:27 cait sample from the file: [27/12/2012 17:25:11] INFO : OPAC: Search for kw,wrdl,rtrn=singen 16:28 cait and I was lookin gfor DEBUG in the html source code of the opac result list after performing my search 16:28 Joubu Yes, I will check the code, it is not my part 16:28 cait thank you 16:29 cait so far it looks good - if we get tis working I will try adding som different warns and errors to a file and see tht it all shows up, then hopefully can sign off 16:29 Joubu cait: it is just at the intranet 16:29 cait oh! 16:29 cait that is an important point :) 16:29 cait ok, let me see if I can get it working 16:29 Joubu logs are added in the koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/doc-head-open.inc 16:30 cait is this on purpose? 16:32 cait maybe we shoudl rephrase the syspref a little bit to make it clear 16:32 cait or make it work for both 16:35 Joubu maybe we could ask khall 16:35 cait Joubu: it's ok, I will make a note 16:36 cait I think it's probably better to have it not show up in opac 16:36 cait you might have sensitive inofrmation in your variables 16:36 cait and I got the messages to show up in my intranet :) 16:37 jcamins oleonard++ 16:37 rambutan @wunder 64507 16:37 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -4.2°C (10:36 AM CST on December 27, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Falling). 16:38 jcamins Joubu: I just encountered a problem. 16:38 jcamins When I rename an update file, the updatedb.pl script does not recognize I already applied it. 16:40 Joubu jcamins: it should work 16:40 Joubu jcamins: md5sum on the file before and after the rename gives you the same value ? 16:41 jcamins I'll check, but all I did was `mv file1 file2` 16:41 cait oleonard++ :) 16:41 cait and Joubu++ too :) 16:41 cait getting late for you 16:43 cait hmm 16:43 cait I have added following code at the top of mainpage.pl 16:43 cait use Koha::Utils::Logger qw/$log/; 16:43 cait $log = Koha::Utils::Logger->new; 16:43 cait $log->debug("This is a debug message"); 16:43 cait $log->info("This is an information"); 16:43 cait $log->error("This is an error !"); 16:43 cait my log level is set to debug 16:43 cait so highest 16:43 cait but I only see 2 lines in the source code 16:44 cait <!-- LOG MESSAGES [Thu Dec 27 17:34:13 2012] INFO : This is an information [Thu Dec 27 17:34:13 2012] ERROR : This is an error ! --> 16:44 cait it doesn't show debug. 16:44 jcamins Yeah, confirmed, it doesn't work right with numbered versions. 16:44 cait and it doesn't show up in the file either 16:45 cait Joubu: debug doesn#t work for me 16:45 Joubu jcamins: the first md5 should be in the updatedb_report.md5 field in your db 16:45 Joubu jcamins: could you confirm that ? 16:46 jcamins Yeah, the md5 shows up correctly, but it wants to run the update again anyway. 16:46 Joubu cait: and if you set the level to info ? 16:46 cait but info is 6 and debug is 7? 16:46 Joubu cait: yes 16:46 cait same 16:46 cait still only info and error showing up 16:47 pastebot "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "MariaDB [koha]> select * from" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/324 16:47 cait I will add oneof each type now, but debug is giving problems 16:48 Joubu jcamins: for "whatever" ? 16:48 jcamins Joubu: that's from updatedb_report and md5sum. 16:49 Joubu jcamins: the script wants reapplied which one ? 16:50 jcamins The script wants to apply 3.11.000.015, even though it has the same md5sum as 3.11.000.013. 16:50 jcamins Oh, I didn't manage to copy the output from the md5sum. 16:51 jcamins Oh, wait. 16:51 jcamins I was reading the code and figured out the problem. 16:52 jcamins It only gives you the error when you click update. 16:52 jcamins That's a problem, because I can't get out of the update screen now. 16:53 jcamins If I click "Mark OK" it works. 16:53 jcamins Okay... 16:53 jcamins What do I do now? 16:54 Joubu you "mark OK" 015 ? 16:54 jcamins Sorry, that was a more general question. 16:54 jcamins I figured out how to use the interface. 16:54 jcamins I think I push it, and file several bugs against the update database mechanism. 16:56 Joubu I don't understand what is the question, If there is one... :) 16:56 jcamins There isn't. 16:56 cait Joubu: little update - they all work except for debug. 16:56 Joubu cait: very strange, debug is managed like others levels 16:57 cait yeah, not sure what's wrong :( 16:57 cait my line is: 16:57 cait $log->debug("This is a debug message"); 16:57 wahanui i already had it that way, cait. 16:57 jcamins I had three bugs to report... 16:57 * jcamins remembers the others. 16:59 jcamins That's two... 16:59 jcamins Oh, I figured out the third. 17:02 slef the others are a long long way from home 17:02 slef very strange, debug? 17:02 wahanui very strange, debug is managed like others levels 17:04 jcamins @later tell rangi Could you please install File::Find::Rule on Jenkins? 17:04 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 17:05 cait slef: testing bug 8190 17:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8190 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add a logging module to Koha, that can report log message to staff interface (for developer use) 17:05 cait and I get all logging messages to show up in the file and in the comments but debug 17:05 cait it's puzzling 17:06 jcamins cait: do you need to set the DEBUG environment variable? 17:06 * jcamins has no idea. 17:06 cait jcamins: I wouldn't see anything without it 17:06 cait jcamins: info, warn, ... critical, they all work 17:06 jcamins Oh. 17:06 * jcamins didn't know that. 17:06 cait only debug is ... on strike, vacation, I don't know 17:07 cait oyu use the variable to define the file... so you need it 17:07 cait for the new logger at least 17:07 Joubu cait: did you modify your includes/doc-head-open.inc ? 17:07 cait Joubu: no, i didn't 17:07 Joubu cait: because lines are commented 17:07 Joubu cait: So I don't understand how it works for you :) 17:07 cait um 17:07 cait I applied all patches 17:08 cait that are on the bug now 17:08 cait and I changed the prefs 17:08 cait and it shows up 17:08 jcamins Bug 7167 is pushed. 17:08 cait in the comments 17:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, updatedatabase improvements 17:08 jcamins And I am heading into the city. 17:08 Joubu [%- IF LogToHtmlComments %] 17:08 Joubu <!-- LOG MESSAGES 17:08 Joubu [% FOREACH message IN Logger.get_messages() %][% message %][% END %] 17:08 Joubu --> 17:08 jcamins_away Joubu: that's just HTML comments. It should still appear in the page. 17:08 slef cait: hmmm? Did I sign that one off? 17:09 * rangi reads the instructions for creating a db update now 17:09 cait no, but it seemed like you were asking what I talked about ;) 17:09 rangi wow, we just raised the bar for writing a patch for koha 1000m 17:09 cait Joubu: hmpf 17:09 * rangi is quite unhappy about that 17:09 cait rangi: i was never a fan of the idea :( 17:10 cait I liked the existing system, it was easy to see what's going on there, 17:10 slef rangi: updatedatabase improvements or what? 17:10 * slef is buried in accountancy, not read mail 17:10 rangi updatedatabase something 17:11 rangi im not sure id call it an improvement 17:11 cait Joubu: it appears as a comment in the html source code - not directly on the page 17:11 Joubu cait: haaa ok ! 17:13 rangi slef: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Database_updates <-- top is the old way, below is the new way 17:13 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7167: Set final updatedatabase.pl version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c34017336c3cd03f471b1c5100b9f6b4dbe589db> / Bug 7167: Adds Unit tests for C4::Update::Database <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=69c19e28b49d1732601c79c9aacf8de4b754b9d8> / Bug 7167: Followup: Removes useless global variables <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitd 17:14 rangi in order to avoid trivially easy to resolve merge conflicts we have made making a db change a zillion times harder, i hope the people who pushed this change are going to spend time teaching new committers how to do this 17:15 Joubu jcamins_away: I will have a look to the bugs you openned about update database 17:16 cait Joubu: I am going to fail it for now 17:16 cait Joubu: debug needs to work. 17:16 cait I will attach my test plan so far 17:17 slef rangi: back from the archives... reading... 17:17 slef errr errr err 17:18 Joubu ok cait, I will check that tomorrow 17:18 slef aside - why have we got DEBUG environment variable, instead of KOHA_DEBUG to go with KOHA_CONF and KOHA_BACKTRACES ? 17:18 cait i will apply my rebased patches... I guess we will need a rewriten database update now too 17:19 slef {{{ something descriptive like "bug_9999.sql" }}} no, bug_9999 is *not* descriptive 17:21 slef well I think the sql way is nice, but I'm not massively convinced by the pl interface style 17:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #992: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/992/ 17:21 jenkins_koha * vfernandes: BUG 9162 - Add a system preference to set which notes fields appears on title notes/description separator 17:21 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9162: Increment version number 17:21 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 9009 - Add separate user js and css for SCO module 17:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9162 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Add a system preference to set which notes fields appears on title notes/description separator 17:21 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9009: Increment version number 17:21 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9183: Refactor ZOOM event loop 17:21 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7143 adding Kiriaki Roditi as translator 17:21 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 7368: Update GetXmlBiblio documentation 17:21 jenkins_koha * bgkriegel: Bug 9315: Bad version of String::Random reported by koha_perl_deps.pl 17:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9009 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add separate user js and css for SCO module 17:21 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Add Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel to history 17:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9183 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , C4::Search should only have one ZOOM event loop 17:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page 17:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Passed QA , General staff client typo omnibus 17:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9315 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Bad version of String::Random reported by koha_perl_deps.pl 17:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #993 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #987 7 days 4 hr ago) 17:22 slef I'll probably edit that wiki page to have less sucky names than bug_9999 but I don't really mind... I don't think the pl interface should be used much and the sql one is much better than what we had before. 17:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #993: FAILURE in 1 min 26 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/993/ 17:23 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7167: New version for updatedatabase 17:23 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7167 follow-up setting DBrevision, before pushing 17:23 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7167: Followup: Removes useless global variables 17:23 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7167: Adds Unit tests for C4::Update::Database 17:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, updatedatabase improvements 17:23 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7167: Set final updatedatabase.pl version 17:23 jenkins_koha Starting build #994 for job Koha_master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #987 7 days 4 hr ago) 17:23 slef that's a fast failure 17:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #994: STILL FAILING in 16 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/994/ 17:23 slef so does this means jenkins_koha will flood us? 17:24 jcamins_away slef: I hope not. I see no reason why it should. 17:25 slef just wondered... looked like it was starting and failing builds quickly 17:25 jcamins_away It does look like that. 17:25 slef thought it might just keep trying 17:27 jcamins_away slef: I favor .pl for the ability to not add tables if they already exist, etc. 17:28 jcamins_away Actually, turns out that CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS works in both MySQL and Postgres. 17:30 Joubu jcamins_away: thank you for your work 17:30 Joubu bye all 17:31 gmcharlt jcamins_away: so in the new regime, 'version' as used by C4::Update::Database essentially means "DB upgrade patch"? 17:31 gmcharlt and would the -min flag to updatedb.pl imply that the names of the "versions" shouldn't be free-form? 17:31 cait hi gmcharlt 17:32 cait hope you had nice holidays :) 17:34 gmcharlt cait: I did. how was yours? 17:34 cait great and busy 17:35 rangi hmm has anyone tried a perl Makefile.PL on master now 17:35 rangi it dont work 17:36 rangi hence why jenkins is unhappy 17:36 cait eek 17:36 cait do we know what broke it? 17:36 cait hope it wasnot the package patch I tested 17:36 * druthb blames cait. 17:36 cait druthb: :( 17:36 druthb Awr! 17:37 rangi nope 7167 17:37 druthb Let's blame... oh, how about blaming bag, instead. 17:37 gmcharlt blame me! blame me! 17:37 gmcharlt uh, wait a minute 17:37 bag :( 17:37 * druthb blames gmcharlt 17:37 rangi can someone else test please 17:37 rangi checkout master 17:37 gmcharlt rangi: I'm doing so now 17:38 druthb bag is a very responsible person at ByWater. Anything goes wrong, he's responsible. 17:38 rangi then simply run perl Makefile.pl 17:38 rangi thanks gmcharlt 17:39 * cait sends bag and gmcharlt cookies 17:43 rangi yep git bisect tracks it down 17:45 rangi c9cb55ef4710bfee111e6e2721f3ca2bf58d98f7 17:45 gmcharlt rangi: one part is installing libfile-find-rule-perl 17:45 gmcharlt but that's only part of it 17:45 rangi renders koha not possible to install 17:45 rangi yep 17:45 rangi perl Makefile.PL 17:45 rangi localhost' (using password: YES) at /home/christopher/git/koha/C4/Context.pm line 802 17:46 rangi Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /home/christopher/git/koha/C4/Context.pm line 802. 17:46 rangi Compilation failed in require at /home/christopher/git/koha/C4/Installer.pm line 26. 17:46 rangi BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/christopher/git/koha/C4/Installer.pm line 26. 17:46 rangi Compilation failed in require at Makefile.PL line 31. 17:46 rangi BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Makefile.PL line 31. 17:46 rangi if i checkout the commit just before that 17:46 rangi git checkout 1d7ad3fb83e22188cc6775f73dcaba31653438a8 17:46 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "rangi: I get a slightly different variant" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/325 17:46 rangi then its all workign again 17:46 rangi yep, thats exactly what jenkins gets gmcharlt 17:46 gmcharlt upshot is that it seems to be depending on finding a Koha config 17:46 rangi yep 17:48 rangi @later tell jcamins there is an issue with bug 7167 that is currently rendering Koha impossible to install 17:48 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 17:49 rangi ok time to get ready for work, be back from the bus 17:54 slef wahanui: bag? 17:54 wahanui I LIKE BASEBALL 17:54 slef heh 17:54 gmcharlt not quite sure that's loud enough to express his love of the game 17:58 gmcharlt bug 7167 17:58 wahanui bug 7167 is commented out of control 17:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, REOPENED , updatedatabase improvements 18:06 gmcharlt rangi: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-equinox.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/bug7167_fix_installation 18:06 gmcharlt @later tell jcamin http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-equinox.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/bug7167_fix_installation 18:06 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 18:08 cait gmcharlt: you are missing an s 18:08 gmcharlt @later tell jcamins http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-equinox.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/bug7167_fix_installation 18:08 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 18:08 cait :) 18:25 rangi Oh and the install files all need to be updated 18:26 rangi To make sure ppl have installed the new module so that the makefile can check they have installed the modules :) 18:27 gmcharlt rangi: that, or adjust things so that perl Makefile.PL only requires core Perl modules to work 18:27 rangi I'd prefer that 18:34 gmcharlt bug 9328 18:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9328 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , File::Find::Rule should not be a mandatory dependency for installation 18:37 rangi Upgrade docs need to change too 18:37 rangi Since now we don't go into maintenance mode 18:38 rangi Someone could use the opac before db upgrade happens 18:38 rangi Or staff client for that m 18:38 rangi Matter 18:50 vinash hi 18:50 wahanui niihau, vinash 18:50 vinash fine 18:51 gmcharlt wahanui is a popular entity 18:52 rangi heh 19:03 slef "I just released an "almost working" iso5426 ucm and Encode::ISO5426 on github. This is an XS module way faster than the Koha C4::Charset and the encode (to iso5426) feature works." https://github.com/eiro/p5-encode-iso5426 19:04 slef -- Marc Chantreux on code4lib 19:06 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Bug 7167: New version for updatedatabase" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7535f2bfa32c7398bfe0baa619bdfa6abf1320b2> / Revert "Bug 7167 follow-up setting DBrevision, before pushing" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=72f9f2239f9d71eec5e2cd987f445a25618d8027> / Revert "Bug 7167: Followup: Removes useless global variables" <http://git.koha-community.org/git 19:11 rangi slef: sounds interesting (he's an ex Koha dev and ex biblibran btw) 19:13 rangi yay marshall fixed the press release :) 19:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #995 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #987 7 days 6 hr ago) 19:21 rangi jcamins_away: good news its gotten much further than the last build :) 19:21 jcamins_away :) 19:21 jcamins_away Why does the Spanish Koha project have a separate Pootle? 19:21 jcamins_away Oh, it's for the manual. 19:21 jcamins_away Never mind. 19:21 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot. 19:22 gmcharlt ha! 19:22 * druthb wields her pointy stick, and watches wahanui suspiciously. 19:23 rangi yeah their manual translation process is pretty sweet, and could be used for other languages 19:23 jcamins_away I wonder if it should be on translate.k-c.org. 19:23 rangi that's what they want 19:23 rangi there are some mails on the translate list about it 19:23 jcamins_away Excellent! 19:24 rangi now the new server is rocking along, its probably doable too 19:24 druthb That's my plan, yes. 19:24 slef rangi: figured he might be an ex, dissing C4::Charset 19:24 slef pointy stick? 19:25 rangi druthb++ 19:25 druthb Good for poking unruly bots, slef. Extends the reach. 19:25 druthb Or unruly developers. 19:25 * druthb pokes libsysguy. 19:26 jcamins_away Speaking of libsysguy, did he ever get his internet connection working? 19:26 libsysguy heh 19:26 libsysguy well I found out why I was bouncing 19:26 rangi joubu++ #lots of QA work 19:26 libsysguy powernap 19:27 * libsysguy needs to set up bip 19:27 jcamins_away Or screen. 19:27 jcamins_away Or tmux. 19:30 rangi yep all good 19:30 rangi the reason i like bip 19:30 rangi is because i can connect to it from my phone, easier than i can to a screen 19:30 jcamins_away Yeah, I've heard that from other people too. 19:31 gmcharlt or quassel 19:45 rangi ohh that was a good email from stacy 19:45 jcamins_away It sure was. 20:07 rangi ohh 168 20:07 rangi hmm 198 20:08 jcamins_away bug 198 20:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=198 normal, P2, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED FIXED, Cannot set password for a member 20:08 rangi heh 198 devs :) 20:08 jcamins_away Oh. 20:08 jcamins_away Yeah. 20:08 jcamins_away Can you get me two more in the next... 20:08 * wizzyrea wonders who will be 200 20:08 jcamins_away 3 days? 20:09 wizzyrea that's gonna be rough 20:10 jcamins_away If we each try to recruit one person, maybe we can get two developers in the next three days. :) 20:11 rangi heh 20:12 jcamins_away Wait! 20:12 jcamins_away We have a patch by a new developer! 20:12 rangi hmm? 20:12 jcamins_away Srikanth! 20:12 jcamins_away (apologies if I misspelled the name) 20:12 rangi oh yes, has it passed qa? 20:12 jcamins_away I'm not sure. 20:12 jcamins_away I think so. 20:12 * wizzyrea would help that one along 20:12 rangi is it bug 8712 ? 20:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug 20:12 jcamins_away Ah. 20:12 jcamins_away Yes. 20:13 jcamins_away It did not pass QA. :( 20:13 wizzyrea there was another one too 20:13 rangi i think there are bunch on there 20:13 rangi the first one is safe 20:13 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=12891 20:14 rangi it just adds a title to the search box 20:14 rangi but then there are a bunch more that may or may not be safe 20:14 rangi (that one just allows the screen reader to behave nicer) 20:15 rangi heh interestingly the main change i wanted 20:15 jcamins_away cait: I have a fun patch for you! You can QA the first patch on bug 8712. 20:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #39 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:16 rangi which was landmark tags 20:16 rangi doesnt seem to have been done 20:16 jcamins_away What are landmark tags? 20:16 rangi http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices/#kbd_layout_landmark_XHTML 20:17 wizzyrea we'll probably get a couple more at the academy 20:17 rangi yep 20:17 wizzyrea will miss the first of the year 20:17 wizzyrea but... 20:17 jcamins_away Oh, wow! 20:17 jcamins_away That's brilliant! 20:17 rangi yep, makes a site a lot more accessible really easily 20:22 rangi and yeah that would be 199 afaict 20:23 wizzyrea save 200 for 2013 ;) 20:23 jcamins_away Okay everyone, that's three days to find a 200th! 20:23 jcamins_away Aww. 20:23 wizzyrea lol. 20:23 wizzyrea naw, if you can find one 20:23 wizzyrea by all means 20:23 wizzyrea charge forth! 20:29 jcamins_away git? 20:29 wahanui hmmm... git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 20:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #995: NOW UNSTABLE in 1 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/995/ 20:30 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Revert "Bug 7167: Set final updatedatabase.pl version" 20:30 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Revert "Bug 7167: Adds Unit tests for C4::Update::Database" 20:30 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Revert "Bug 7167: Followup: Removes useless global variables" 20:30 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Revert "Bug 7167 follow-up setting DBrevision, before pushing" 20:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, REOPENED , updatedatabase improvements 20:30 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Revert "Bug 7167: New version for updatedatabase" 20:31 rangi back to the issue with the sysprefs, ill try a db update 20:31 jcamins_away What is the BackgroundJob error? It works on my system. 20:32 jcamins_away Oh. 20:32 jcamins_away I see. 20:32 jcamins_away maintenance.pl 20:32 rangi right sysprefs pass now 20:32 rangi and so does it 20:32 jcamins_away Yay! 20:32 rangi !jenkins build Koha_master 20:32 jenkins_koha rangi: job Koha_master build scheduled with a quiet period of 5 seconds 20:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #996 for job Koha_master (previous build: NOW UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #987 7 days 7 hr ago) 20:33 rangi actually we are at 197 20:33 rangi hm maybe not 20:34 rangi but bernado shouldnt be 198 20:34 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=search;s=Bernardo+Gonzalez+Kriegel;st=author 20:34 jcamins_away Why not? 20:34 rangi he has patches from back in 2010 20:34 jcamins_away Oh, wow. 20:34 jcamins_away So he does. 20:34 rangi looks like he just got missed being added to the history? 20:35 rangi i can do a patch renumbering if you like? 20:35 jcamins_away Yes please. 20:35 * rangi will do 20:35 jcamins_away And while you're at it, could you please add the latest maintenance releases? 20:35 rangi will do 20:37 cait rangi++ :) 20:37 cait so what was that easy patch? 20:37 rangi the first patch on bug 8712 20:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug 20:54 rangi ok thats passed qa now 20:54 cait :) 20:54 cait and how many devs now? 20:55 rangi when that is pushed 199 20:55 jcamins_away That'll be 199. :) 20:55 wizzyrea no other patches that we can resurrect from the dark corners of bugzilla 20:55 wizzyrea ? 20:56 rangi maybe 20:56 cait maybe 20:56 wizzyrea maybe? 20:56 wizzyrea :D 20:56 rangi bug 7143 is ready for an easy signoff 20:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page 20:56 cait if you find something letme know... I am going to tackle the next thing on my todo list :) 20:56 cait andmorning wizzyrea :) 20:56 wizzyrea good evening cait :) 21:02 rangi gmcharlt: do you have a second? 21:03 gmcharlt rangi: hmm? 21:03 i00nsu hi all. I am trying to install koha, and I am getting some problems when installing few Perl modules from <cpan> shell.. one of them is DBD::SQLite2 another is GD. Does DBD::SQLite (SQLite3) is supported? 21:03 jcamins_away i00nsu: why are you installing from CPAN? 21:03 rangi gmcharlt: is there a way to interact with huginn other than via irc, what i would like to do is show a random quote up next to the random bug here http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ 21:04 rangi its fine to say no :) 21:04 gmcharlt rangi: not conveniently, although something that scrapes the quotes database could always PM huginn 21:04 i00nsu jcamins_away, bcause is the correct way? I am guessing.. the yaz libs in ubuntu have broken dependencies.. 21:05 jcamins_away i00nsu: it's definitely not the correct way. I do not install anything with CPAN. 21:05 i00nsu not always in all distros I am testing have the libs or Perl modules they need. 21:05 jcamins_away Which instructions are you following? 21:05 jcamins_away Oh, if you're not using Ubuntu, of course. 21:05 jcamins_away But if you're on Ubuntu, you should just use the package manager. 21:06 jcamins_away (Ubuntu or Debian) 21:06 cait i have koha working on ubuntu 21:06 cait right this moment, never had any problems 21:06 jcamins_away Nor have I. 21:06 cait and using the koha-common packages of corse 21:06 * jcamins_away is not using the koha-common package. 21:07 jcamins_away Okay, we're starting in the middle. 21:07 jcamins_away first question? 21:07 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" 21:07 jcamins_away ^^ i00nsu 21:07 i00nsu I am using ubuntu-server jcamins_away, and I am getting few problems with idzebra and yaz.. broken packages 21:07 jcamins_away second question? 21:07 wahanui i guess second question is "What is the exact error message?" 21:07 jcamins_away third question? 21:07 wahanui rumour has it third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/find-version-koha-running/ 21:08 jcamins_away wizzyrea++ # for programming wahanui 21:08 * wizzyrea is consummately lazy 21:09 jcamins_away Also, what version of Ubuntu server? 21:09 rangi are you trying to use the pacakges from zebra or something .. what guide are you following to install .. really recommend just using http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian (it will work just fine on any modern ubuntu) 21:09 rangi gmcharlt: good idea thanks 21:10 i00nsu arr.. easy.. I use both docs and versions (git version), (koha-commom version). | ubuntuServer: 3.2.0-35-generic-pae, last version updated 21:11 jcamins_away So Ubuntu 12.10? 21:12 gmcharlt @quote random 21:12 huginn gmcharlt: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 21:12 jcamins_away i00nsu: so you're using Koha 3.10? 21:13 cait @quote random 21:13 huginn cait: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 21:13 jcamins_away lol 21:13 jcamins_away What an interesting quote. 21:13 wizzyrea nooo not the quotes! 21:14 wizzyrea :) 21:14 i00nsu jcamins_away, this specific version I am testing (right now) is the downloaded git version.. what package version is? don't know.. 21:14 i00nsu probably the last 21:15 jcamins_away i00nsu: so you did `git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone`? 21:15 i00nsu yes 21:15 jcamins_away Okay. 21:15 jcamins_away Good. 21:15 wizzyrea bug 8562 - I feel like we should be looking at this one but I'm not sure how to test it exactly 21:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8562 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , RandomizeHoldsQueueWeight ignored if StaticHoldsQueueWeight is empty. 21:16 jcamins_away i00nsu: okay, there is absolutely no reason for you to be using CPAN. 21:16 jcamins_away Easiest thing to do is install koha-common to get the dependencies. 21:16 wizzyrea I feel like you need a serious corpus of reserves, and a very active circulation of reserves 21:16 i00nsu ok.. so what manual I should stick ? 21:17 jcamins_away packages? 21:17 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 21:17 wizzyrea to test that properly 21:17 gmcharlt @quote random 21:17 huginn gmcharlt: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 21:17 jcamins_away I'd use that page up to the `sudo apt-get install koha-common` 21:17 jcamins_away Then you can return to configuring your git installation so that you can submit patches. 21:18 wizzyrea and be the 200th submitter. 21:18 wizzyrea :) 21:18 jcamins_away YES!!! 21:18 jcamins_away If you submit your first patch in the next three days, we can hit 200 submitters in 2012! 21:19 i00nsu Good, jcamins_away. Lets see my problem Again.. koha-common : Depends : libnet-z3950-zoom-perl but is not going to be installed. Depends : idzebra-2.09 But no install | Depends: yaz but No install 21:19 jcamins_away Did you add an extra apt line for indexdata? 21:20 wizzyrea hm that isn't in the instructions though 21:20 wizzyrea adding the apt line 21:20 jcamins_away Right. 21:20 wizzyrea or are you saying "if you did it, take it out" 21:20 i00nsu both's: deb and deb-src in /etc/apt/sources.list 21:20 jcamins_away Okay. 21:20 jcamins_away You need to *remove* the lines for indexdata. 21:21 jcamins_away You only want the line for debian.koha-community.org. 21:21 jcamins_away Lines. 21:21 i00nsu no deb-src? 21:21 gmcharlt @quote random 21:21 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #184: "slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:58 PM, January 30, 2012) 21:21 cait gmcharlt++ 21:21 wizzyrea looool 21:21 cait @quote random 21:21 huginn cait: Quote #110: "chris: im rm, not god" (added by kf at 10:20 AM, December 08, 2010) 21:21 druthb @quote random 21:21 huginn druthb: Quote #195: "jcamins: libsysguy's test plans all involve sandwich-eating. I think he only programs when hungry." (added by wizzyrea at 06:12 PM, March 30, 2012) 21:21 jcamins_away Oh, you could add deb-source, too. 21:22 jcamins_away Here's what I have in my sources.list: http://paste.koha-community.org/326 21:22 gmcharlt rangi: for your up-to-date parsing fun - http://librarypolice.com/~gmc/koha_irc_quotes.txt 21:22 rangi sweet thanks :) 21:23 * wizzyrea gets lost reading quotes 21:23 wizzyrea aside: we are very funny. 21:23 i00nsu ah ah Nice jcamins_away 21:23 jcamins_away Boy do I wish I had remembered my hat today. 21:23 jcamins_away It's *cold*. 21:24 gmcharlt @quote get 225 21:24 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #225: "eythian: The koha community is a major force in preventing the extinction of zebras with the amount we're rebuilding." (added by wizzyrea at 09:44 PM, December 19, 2012) 21:24 cait hehe 21:24 cait not only funny, but also great wisdom in there 21:24 cait @quote get 123 21:24 huginn cait: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 21:26 wizzyrea @quote get 98 21:26 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #98: "drulm: TGIF=Thank Galen It's Friday" (added by wizzyrea at 07:15 PM, October 08, 2010) 21:26 i00nsu jcamins_away, ok.. This test will be completly... but The real problem will be in the REAL server (RH Entreprise) using Fedora docs is possible? 21:26 rangi that list will be enough to get the dashboard going 21:27 jcamins_away i00nsu: I don't know anything about installing on RedHat, other than that it's a horrible painful process. 21:27 cait :) 21:27 gmcharlt i00nsu: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.6_on_Centos_6.2_i386 will get you started, although it's a bit out of date 21:27 i00nsu is any post / docs to install that way (the horrible painful process) ? 21:28 wizzyrea you could update that :) 21:28 jcamins_away There's the page gmcharlt referenced. I'm not sure if there's anything more recent. 21:28 jcamins_away Any updates are greatly appreciated. :) 21:28 i00nsu ok :) 21:29 gmcharlt i00nsu: on the bright side, the last time I played around with it a few months ago -- it actually wasn't too far off 21:29 * gmcharlt still prefers installing Koha on Debian, natch :) 21:29 i00nsu ok.. Iwill try and see what I can do 21:31 i00nsu gmcharlt, 2 servers to do that is kind of weird I want use only one server.. but lets see 21:31 wizzyrea khall++ for preventDoubleFormSubmit() 21:32 wizzyrea @quote random 21:32 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #29: "< CGI634> kill self now avoid slow cataloging death" (added by chris at 09:32 PM, September 02, 2009) 21:32 wizzyrea *giggle* 21:33 cait @quote random 21:33 huginn cait: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 03:28 PM, June 18, 2009) 21:33 cait @eightball will I pass QA on this? 21:33 huginn cait: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing! 21:34 cait totally. 21:34 cait ok, afterno success googling...what#s the easiest way to find out which version of amodule you are using? 21:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #39: SUCCESS in 1 hr 19 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/39/ 21:35 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9183: Refactor ZOOM event loop 21:35 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7143 adding Kiriaki Roditi as translator 21:35 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 7368: Update GetXmlBiblio documentation 21:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9183 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , C4::Search should only have one ZOOM event loop 21:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page 21:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , General staff client typo omnibus 21:35 jcamins_away `apt-cache policy libmodule-perl 21:35 jcamins_away Or `perl koha_perl_deps.pl -a` 21:36 jcamins_away (and then look for the module you're interested in) 21:36 cait hm 21:37 cait what if it#s not listed there? :( 21:37 cait ah, I can't spell 21:37 jcamins_away There's a way to do it with Perl... `perl -e "use Module; print Module->VERSION;" 21:37 cait ignore me 21:37 jcamins_away Maybe. 21:44 wizzyrea cait, can't you use the about page in koha 21:45 wizzyrea the tab for modules 21:45 jcamins_away wizzyrea: only if the module is listed. 21:45 wizzyrea and why aren't they all listed >.> 21:45 wizzyrea WHAT DATA::PAGINATION isn't installed?!!?! 21:46 cait wizzyrea: you don't need it without solr 21:47 wizzyrea hehe I'm just being funny 21:47 wizzyrea i went to look at the modules page 21:47 wizzyrea and that one isn't installed. 21:47 wizzyrea it's a little misleading though, as it's red - if I don't need it without solr, then why isn't it yellow or something 21:48 cait hmIthink yellow is foranother version 21:48 cait it's not bold 21:48 cait I think the required ones are bold 21:48 wizzyrea ah 21:49 wizzyrea perhaps we ought to have a legend 21:50 wizzyrea but, ok, if a required one is missing, this page won't load anyway 21:50 wizzyrea ...sometimes 21:50 cait true 21:50 cait been there today... 21:51 rangi http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ 21:51 wizzyrea hehe 21:51 wizzyrea I got "don't pet a burning dog" 21:51 rangi http://dashboard.koha-community.org/randomquote 21:51 rangi if you want to use them anywhere else :) 21:51 wizzyrea ah! 21:52 wizzyrea rangi++ 21:52 cait :) 21:52 cait the "' seem a little bit weird 21:52 cait sometimes there aresome, often not or only on one side 21:52 wizzyrea some of them were added that awy 21:52 wizzyrea I think 21:52 rangi yeah 21:53 wizzyrea like someone would do quote add "someone: something funny" 21:53 cait k 21:53 wizzyrea and it kept the quotes. 21:55 dracoling "' yes 21:55 * dracoling chuckles 21:55 rangi fixed 21:55 wizzyrea hehe some of those are quite priceless. 21:57 rangi ahh i see a bug 21:58 gmcharlt @quote add <wizzyrea> like someone would do quote add "someone: something funny" 21:58 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #226 added. 21:58 rangi hehe ill need an updated list before that will show up :) 21:59 gmcharlt rangi: that link I sent you is auto-magically updated 21:59 rangi awesome :) 21:59 wizzyrea MAGIC. 21:59 wizzyrea gmcharlt++ 22:00 wizzyrea holidays really *are* the best time of the year 22:00 wizzyrea :) 22:02 gmcharlt rangi++ # dashboarding through the snow... 22:03 wizzyrea ugh why can you not receive another serial on the same subscription straight away 22:03 wizzyrea so much clicking. 22:06 rangi right, thats better 22:07 * wizzyrea swears a lot at serials 22:10 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 22:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #996: FIXED in 1 hr 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/996/ 22:11 rangi yay! 22:11 cjh_ \o/ 22:21 cait wizzyrea: patches welcome ;) 22:22 wizzyrea oh I know right - but I'm not even sure how it's supposed to work so... it's hard to know how it should be fixed/ 22:22 wizzyrea I feel like I need to watch people using it 22:22 wizzyrea fortunately I have some training on serials coming up 22:22 wizzyrea maybe I will learn some things from the librarians 22:23 wizzyrea whilst teaching them how to use serials. 22:23 cait :) 22:26 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rgrr6b6Vt6M#! 22:29 wizzyrea i like the girl that puts it back 22:29 rangi yeah 22:29 wizzyrea OMG you bumped that snowman! 22:30 rangi and the one who drops straight into a fighting stance .. dont mess with her 22:30 wizzyrea one of the joggers looked like he was going to punch it out 22:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #73 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:35 cait wizzyrea: i think you are right, receiving more than one would be nice 22:35 cait butnot sure how often it happens 22:35 wizzyrea well, here's what I think 22:35 wizzyrea I think the serial toolbar should be persistent 22:36 wizzyrea you should be able to *at least* get back to any of those functions 22:36 wizzyrea from anywhere in serials. 22:38 cait hmIthink part ofthe reason it is notpersistant 22:38 cait ah that toolbar, I was thinking about the links:) 22:38 cait I think part of the problem is that some of the views/pages deal with multiple subscriptions 22:39 cait for one bibliographic record 22:39 cait the navigation on the left varies a bit too, depending on where you are 22:39 wizzyrea it just seems like I can't get to the things I want to get to without going back to the top and re-searching for the serial 22:40 wizzyrea which seems... nuts 22:40 cait hmm 22:40 cait i mostly use links 22:40 cait not searching again 22:40 cait when I show it to someone 22:41 cait like the subscription number brings you back to the page I tihnk 22:41 wizzyrea some day you're going to have to screenshare and show me how it's properly done 22:42 cait not sure I can do it properly 22:42 cait but I have been demoing serials some andwegot 2 libraries using it 22:42 cait i think you can receive multiple from the serials-collection page 22:42 cait /cgi-bin/koha/serials/serials-collection.pl?subscriptionid=1 22:42 cait first generate them, then click edit serials 22:43 wizzyrea yea, except... ok that's fine, but let's just say you are not smart enough to do that, like me 22:44 wizzyrea if you click into receive, and you haven't generated the next 22:44 wizzyrea you have to go all the way back out 22:44 cait hm 22:44 wizzyrea or am I missing something 22:44 cait letme see 22:44 cait hm when you save you get back and can generate next 22:45 wizzyrea i wonder what I was doing that made me so mad. it had to do with bug 8054 22:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8054 normal, P5 - low, ---, liz, ASSIGNED , can hit submit twice when paying fines 22:45 wizzyrea no, not that one 22:45 cait serials has some bad quirks... 22:45 wizzyrea 8896 22:45 wizzyrea bug 8896 22:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8896 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Delete serials no more missing from missinglist 22:45 cait liek that the preview does not work when you use advanced patterns 22:46 cait ah 22:46 cait yeah, that's not good 22:46 cait wonder how long it has been broken 22:47 wizzyrea well I was testing that patch, it didn't seem to work for me 22:47 wizzyrea but getting through it made me swear a lot because there wasn't a good way to get back to "edit sub" from "receive" 22:47 wizzyrea yes, that is what it was. 22:47 wizzyrea but you can NEW from anywhere 22:48 wizzyrea I guess you can click on the number 22:48 wizzyrea but ... 22:48 wizzyrea that wasn't obvious to me 22:48 cait hm yeah 22:48 cait i think a general toolbar like it's going to be in acq now is better 22:48 cait but 22:49 cait if you edit issues from different subscriptions... it#s bit harder 22:49 cait wold need to be a ... menuor something with links to each 22:51 wizzyrea obviously there needs to be a map done of what people most often do - maybe this is only a problem because I have to create the sub and receive several items straight away 22:51 wizzyrea and in normal usage it is fine 22:51 wizzyrea or have to edit the sub several times 22:51 wizzyrea in short order 22:54 cait I tihnk that probably happens not often in regular use 22:54 cait in theory you have to set up the subscriptions once 22:54 cait and then receive your issues.... in theory 22:54 cait when they don't change something with the subscription pattenr 22:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #73: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/73/ 22:56 jenkins_koha liz: Fixing errors with updatedatabase.pl 22:56 wizzyrea \o/ 22:57 cait so many typos... *sigh* 22:58 cait wizzyrea++ 22:58 wizzyrea heh :) 22:59 druthb wizzyrea++ 23:00 wizzyrea what?! 23:00 wizzyrea no no 23:00 wizzyrea that's normal stuff. ;) 23:00 cait oh yes yes 23:00 cait for a release maintainer maybe:) 23:19 i00nsu well everything went good until i try to restart apache and gave me this error: Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 23:20 jcamins_away Sounds like you have two web servers running. 23:22 i00nsu netstat -antp | grep 80 answer NONE 23:23 jcamins_away I'm not sure what could make it do that. 23:23 jcamins_away (other than having another web server running) 23:23 jcamins_away Well, maybe you can switch the VirtualHost to be *:80 23:23 wizzyrea 0.0.0.0? 23:28 jcamins_away wizzyrea: apparently that's equivalent to "this computer on all interfaces" 23:28 wizzyrea huh. didn't know that. 23:30 jcamins_away I only found out recently. 23:50 i00nsu ok I solve that .. bad position in ports.conf Listen 8080 23:59 wizzyrea as long as that problem with the string was fixed, then yes bug 6574 can go away 23:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6574 normal, P5 - low, ---, liz, Passed QA , js error in en-GB template breaks circulation toolbar