Time  Nick           Message
00:31 mib_jlp01w     Hello, Whta is the correct command for add a key package for Red Hat, i use the (wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add -) AND DONT WORK
00:33 jcamins_away   mib_jlp01w: I have no idea. Koha doesn't have any Red Hat packages.
00:36 jcamins_away   If you want to install Koha on Red Hat, you have to use the tarball.
00:36 jcamins_away   mib_jlp01w: there's a guide that might help: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Redhat_Enterprise_6
00:36 mib_jlp01w     thanks men, let me see that
00:37 jcamins_away   mib_jlp01w: there's also http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.6_on_Centos_6.2_i386
00:37 jcamins_away   I think CentOS and Red Hat are very similar.
09:53 * cait         waves
15:19 druthb         @later tell rangi pull requests issued--I hope I did it right!
15:19 huginn         druthb: The operation succeeded.
16:01 libsysguy      I am sad that I started looking in MakeFile.PL
16:01 libsysguy      and I am terrified that I am editing it
16:02 cait           ohoh
16:02 cait           hi libsysguy :)
16:03 libsysguy      heya cait
16:03 libsysguy      guess what
16:03 libsysguy      jcamins has inspired me to write in nginx install support
16:03 libsysguy      lol
16:04 cait           inspired? hehe
16:04 cait           good luck :)
16:04 libsysguy      well I was just sitting around waiting on someone else to do it
16:04 libsysguy      then I got tired of waiting
16:05 cait           it's a good reason
16:25 libsysguy      do you know where to put new package deps
16:42 * Oak          waves
16:46 * cait         waves back
17:10 jcamins_away   libsysguy: debian/control
17:10 libsysguy      ahh thanks
17:22 cait           hi jcamins_away
17:23 * jcamins_away waves from the distance.
17:28 * libsysguy    remembers why he quit system administration
19:04 libsysguy      can anybody point me to the part of the install where paths get generated?
19:05 libsysguy      for example: how do I know that my install directory for a dev install is /home/elliott as opposed to /home/koha
19:18 jcamins_away   Makefile.PL
19:18 jcamins_away   It sets the variables so that rewrite-config.PL will replace the placeholders.
19:58 libsysguy      ahh
19:59 libsysguy      okay
20:11 libsysguy      holy moses I feel like this is overly comples
20:11 libsysguy      complex*
20:26 jcamins_away   Probably.
20:26 jcamins_away   Show me what you have so far?
20:30 libsysguy      sure, pastebin?
20:30 jcamins_away   Yes please.
20:31 libsysguy      http://pastebin.com/4aKPRbdv
20:31 jenkins_koha   Starting build #249 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:31 jcamins_away   That looks right to me.
20:32 libsysguy      http://pastebin.com/tSQqAbRx
20:33 jcamins_away   My one concern with that is the server_name... a lot of people use ports.
20:34 libsysguy      yeah, I wasn't sure how to handle that
20:34 libsysguy      I know there is the port replacement but I don't think you can just drop a port in the server_name
20:34 jcamins_away   I feel like maybe what we need to do is ask the user during Makefile.PL "do you want to use ports or do you want to use DNS?"
20:35 libsysguy      well I'm already asking if they want apache or nginx
20:35 libsysguy      so that shouldn't be a hard add
20:35 jcamins_away   That's my thought too.
20:35 libsysguy      of course that will mean touching the apache config as well
20:36 libsysguy      I'm more concerned about the install_base atm
20:36 libsysguy      I don't think that path is correct
20:37 jcamins_away   Definitely not.
20:37 jcamins_away   The koha.psgi needs to be a bit more complicated to mount the OPAC correctly, too.
20:38 libsysguy      I would agree wtih that
20:38 jcamins_away   Not much more. You just need a second line.
20:39 jcamins_away   Two lines.
20:39 jcamins_away   I forgot the "mount" directive.
20:39 libsysguy      to load new paths
20:39 jcamins_away   my $intra=Plack::App::CGIBin->new(root => "__INTRANET_CGI_DIR__" );
20:39 jcamins_away   And then repeat that replacing intra with opac.
20:39 jcamins_away   And a second mount.
20:40 libsysguy      and you think all those should go in the same builder?
20:40 jcamins_away   I favor that, yes.
20:41 jcamins_away   I mean, I suppose there's no reason not to run two server processes.
20:41 libsysguy      I'd like to see the differences
20:41 libsysguy      but for now I think its safe to keep them in the same container
20:41 jcamins_away   There is no difference other than the paths.
20:42 libsysguy      right
20:42 libsysguy      the difference I could see would be loading static files
20:42 jcamins_away   Which is done by nginx.
20:42 libsysguy      true
20:43 jcamins_away   And we have two separate server directives for nginx.
20:43 libsysguy      touche`
20:43 * libsysguy    concedes to logic
20:44 libsysguy      so
20:45 libsysguy      the mounts both point to cgi-bin/koha?
20:45 libsysguy      that seems odd
20:45 jcamins_away   No.
20:45 jcamins_away   OPAC points to cgi-bin/koha/opac
20:45 * libsysguy    is looking at koha-httpd.conf
20:46 jcamins_away   Yes, that's because it's CGI.
20:46 libsysguy      ah
20:46 libsysguy      and intranet is cgi-bin/koha/intranet
21:00 jenkins_koha   Starting build #37 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:11 jcamins_away   Yay! I was number two for signoffs!
21:11 jcamins_away   (in 3.10.1)
21:12 libsysguy      who was #1?
21:13 jcamins_away   rangi.
21:13 libsysguy      of course
21:17 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.8.x build #249: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/249/
21:17 jenkins_koha   druthb: Updated translations for 3.8.8
21:17 libsysguy      yayy druthb++
21:18 cait           rangi++ rangi++ for 2 releases :)
21:18 libsysguy      rangi++++ :p
21:19 druthb         :)
21:19 druthb         hi
21:19 libsysguy      heya Ruthie
21:20 libsysguy      I think this is going to be considered a 'large patch'
21:21 * druthb       wriggles happily.
21:22 druthb         @karma
21:22 huginn         druthb: Highest karma: "rangi" (712), "oleonard" (605), and "jcamins" (469).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-112), "failed" (-96), and "-" (-69).  You (druthb) are ranked 14 out of 2332.
21:22 druthb         @most increased
21:22 huginn         druthb: "rangi": 717, "oleonard": 610, "jcamins": 471, "wizzyrea": 359, "cait": 345, "gmcharlt": 336, "chris_n": 310, "paul_p": 273, "sekjal": 245, "nengard": 232, "kf": 221, "magnuse": 194, "druthb": 170, "slef": 170, "eythian": 150, "fredericd": 95, "marcelr": 69, "hdl": 69, "biblibre": 65, "mveron": 64, "hdl_laptop": 60, "drojf": 57, "mtj": 56, "tcohen": 56, and "jwagner": 54
21:23 druthb         @most decreased
21:23 huginn         druthb: "<!": 121, "failed": 96, "-": 72, "ie": 58, "<-": 49, "C4::Search": 32, "[": 22, "windows": 22, "ptfs": 17, "--><!": 14, "liblime": 13, "src="<!": 11, "monday": 10, "-rw-r--r": 10, "marc": 10, "it": 9, "^": 9, "zebra": 9, "me": 8, "--": 8, "oracle": 7, "windchill": 7, "Jared": 6, "word": 6, and " is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. ": 6
21:23 jcamins_away   -rw-r--r... awesome!
21:23 * libsysguy    just added 5 new install options
21:24 * libsysguy    will be hated by sysadmins everywhere
21:24 jcamins_away   Who wrote the patch for bug 9278?
21:24 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9278 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Remove unused OPAC CSS file sanop.css
21:24 libsysguy      oleonard i think
21:24 libsysguy      por que?
21:25 jcamins_away   Yes, I think so too.
21:25 druthb         it is wicked hot in the house now..  canner's on the last half of the first batch. :)
21:25 jcamins_away   'Cause someone changed the author when QAing.
21:25 libsysguy      ...
21:25 libsysguy      oops
21:25 libsysguy      I think I know how that happened
21:25 * jcamins_away fixes it.
21:25 libsysguy      thanks
21:25 druthb         Some Elliott or other?
21:25 * jcamins_away has trouble seeing how, actually.
21:26 libsysguy      well at the time of QA-ing that one I remembered you asked me to update the author into
21:26 libsysguy      info*
21:26 libsysguy      and I think it pushed it in the ammend
21:26 * libsysguy    smiles uneasily
21:26 jcamins        lol
21:26 * libsysguy    watches for jcamins shank
21:26 * druthb       hands jcamins the wiffle bat.
21:27 jcamins        Test plans.
21:27 jcamins        They are not optional.
21:30 jcamins        Okay...
21:35 * cait         agrees with the wonderful RM
21:36 * druthb       agrees that the RM is wonderful.
21:36 * druthb       agrees with the wonderful RM, too
21:39 libsysguy      ugh
21:39 libsysguy      terminal lockup
21:43 libsysguy      I don't understand how I can be connected to my AWS box for days and days and the second there is  a blip in my connection on an RS box I lose the pipe
21:44 jcamins        libsysguy: I think you pretty much explained the issue in the lede. :P
21:45 libsysguy      lol
21:48 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.10.x build #37: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/37/
21:48 jenkins_koha   druthb: Updated translations for 3.10.1 release
21:50 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Koha 3.10.1 http://t.co/QpQuTgpn"
21:50 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Koha 3.8.8 released http://t.co/iIm9SRaD"
21:53 libsysguy      bug 7167 is commented out of control
21:53 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , updatedatabase improvements
21:53 jcamins        libsysguy: it really is.
21:54 libsysguy      I started to QA that one
21:54 libsysguy      and gave up
21:54 jcamins        I think we're getting close to pushing it, though.
21:54 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7620: OPACNoResult, Add keyword to query string <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=37bd0c8d7e1196648fc3fc24287cf3d8f1afb7d7> / Bug 9169 - Wrap relator code in to allow for CSS customization <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=adf4790c286d59f05c7785b0b441e8682c8fb04f> / Bug 9158: correcting whitespace in series (440) display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/
21:55 jcamins        My gratin is boiling over.
21:57 libsysguy      nooo not the gratin
21:58 jcamins        Today I learned that rutabagas have a higher water content than potatoes.
22:00 libsysguy      i feel like that is only something you could learn from 1) the internet 2) the food channel
22:00 jenkins_koha   Starting build #990 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #987 2 days 8 hr ago)
22:01 jcamins        libsysguy: and 3) by boiling over your gratin
22:01 libsysguy      heh
22:02 libsysguy      so I kept getting permission errors when firing up plack so I've borrowed some code from the koha-zebra-ctl.sh script
22:04 jcamins        ...
22:04 jcamins        it's boiling over again!
22:05 jcamins        wtf?
22:05 libsysguy      seriously…turn down the heat
22:05 jcamins        Gratins are baked
22:05 jcamins        And I removed ~1 cup of water.
22:05 jcamins        Well, liquid.
22:12 cait           remove more?
22:14 jcamins        Yeah, it's not boiling over anymore. :)
22:15 * libsysguy    crosses fingers that I've gotten all the config stuff right and presses make
22:26 libsysguy      the koha-httpd.conf file…do you cp that to sites available or ln s
22:26 * libsysguy    hasn't done a full install in awhile
22:27 jcamins        I symlink it.
22:27 libsysguy      so for nginx I would have to symlink it twice?
22:28 jcamins        What?
22:28 jcamins        Oh, to put it in sites-available and sites-enabled?
22:28 jcamins        Yes.
22:28 libsysguy      symlink it to sites-available then link the link to sites enabled
22:28 libsysguy      okay
22:30 libsysguy      do you link the daemon to init.d?
22:34 jcamins        I do, yes.
22:38 libsysguy      well…it looks like the config files came out correctly
22:38 libsysguy      but nginx doesn't seem to be cooperating
22:40 jcamins        Oh?
22:40 libsysguy      yeah i can see starman is running on the unix socket
22:40 libsysguy      but chrome is saying it can't connect
22:41 jcamins        Did you check if nginx is running?
22:41 libsysguy      it seems to be
22:41 libsysguy      i can see it running in a ps aux
22:41 jcamins        Is it listening? (netstat -a)
22:42 libsysguy      and init.d status says its running
22:42 drojf          good evening #koha :)
22:42 jcamins        Good evening.
22:42 jcamins        I'm thinking of sauteeing some leeks.
22:43 libsysguy      hmm I see unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     14378653 /home/elliott/koha-dev/var/run/plack/plack.sock
22:43 drojf          i just made one kiwi based and one ginger/garlic based habanero sauce
22:43 libsysguy      but I don't see anything listeing on 80...
22:43 libsysguy      listening*
22:44 drojf          so sautee away i say ;)
22:44 jcamins        Try restarting nginx.
22:44 jcamins        See if you get some sort of error message.
22:45 libsysguy      i just commented out the Listen 80; on both servers
22:45 jcamins        Like "Oy! You! Idiot! You're missing a curly brace!"
22:45 jcamins        What are you listening with?
22:45 libsysguy      nope no errors
22:45 jcamins        What are you doing?
22:45 libsysguy      heh
22:45 libsysguy      http://pastebin.com/rv6Kby0N
22:46 jcamins        Hm.
22:47 jcamins        I thought nginx had listen *blocks*.
22:48 libsysguy      like the / and @ plack block?
22:48 libsysguy      http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/server_names.html
22:50 drojf          almost close to what you are talking about but not really: for running mediawiki locally on a notebook, should i consider the pain (?) of learning nginx configuration or just go with apache? i assmume nginex would eat up a lot less resources?
22:50 drojf          "assume nginx" even
22:51 libsysguy      its really not that much of a pain
22:51 libsysguy      its just a little different
22:51 libsysguy      it'd be like running postgres vs mysql
22:51 drojf          but is it that much better or just a little?
22:51 libsysguy      same basic concept, different way of going about it
22:51 libsysguy      well it is certainly faster in  *most* situations
22:52 libsysguy      as far as I've seen
22:52 drojf          because with packages mediawiki is installed in 5 minutes (and brings apache), for nginx i would have to see
22:52 libsysguy      what is mediawiki written in?
22:52 drojf          php
22:52 drojf          dont know if other things too
22:52 libsysguy      http://interfacelab.com/nginx-php-fpm-apc-awesome/
22:53 libsysguy      more relivant http://wiki.nginx.org/MediaWiki
22:54 libsysguy      shoot, Its 5, I gotta get
22:54 drojf          yeah i have seen the latter, that did not look to scary
22:54 libsysguy      jcamins++ for the help today
22:54 libsysguy      more on monday :p
22:54 libsysguy      cya
22:54 drojf          bye libsysguy_afk
22:55 * drojf        contemplates trying cold leftover pheasant with fresh kiwi habanero sauce
22:57 jcamins        That sounds delicious.
22:57 jcamins        drojf: I'd say it's probably not worth bothering with nginx on a local installation.
22:58 jcamins        How much load would there really be?
23:01 drojf          not much. one client. i'm setting up a wiki for my mom, with computer stuff she already knows but forgets from time to time, some new things and as a place to add things herself. she got her first computer a year ago
23:03 jcamins        Cool!
23:03 jcamins        drojf's_mother++
23:04 drojf          wait until you hear she uses debain and writes encrypted emails. it's much easier to teach people that have never been using windows :)
23:05 jcamins        Heh. I believe it.
23:05 drojf          my dad has been working with computer for decades and will never leave windows.
23:07 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #990: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/990/
23:07 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 9136: C4::Tags not Plack-compatible
23:07 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 9151 follow-up: correct name in sysprefs.sql
23:07 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 9140 - Untranslatable strings in item circulation history
23:07 jenkins_koha   * jonathan.druart: Bug 9140: Followup removes the useless variable $message
23:07 jenkins_koha   * m.de.rooy: Bug 9105: Move Z3950 search code to Breeding module
23:07 jenkins_koha   * m.de.rooy: Bug 9105: Housekeeping followup
23:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9136 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , C4::Tags not Plack-compatible
23:07 jenkins_koha   * m.de.rooy: Bug 9105: Second housekeeping followup
23:07 jenkins_koha   * z.tajoli: Bug 9112 : update of Italian SQL files
23:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9151 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Renewal notice according to patron alert preferences
23:07 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 9278 - Remove unused OPAC CSS file sanop.css
23:07 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 8955 - Self checkout should degrade gracefully with JavaScript turned off
23:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9140 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Untranslatable strings in item circulation history
23:07 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 8955 [Follow-up] Self checkout should degrade gracefully w/o JavaScript
23:07 jenkins_koha   * chrish: Bug 9158: correcting whitespace in series (440) display
23:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9105 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Moving Z3950 search code to Breeding.pm
23:07 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 9169 - Wrap relator code in <span> to allow for CSS customization
23:07 jenkins_koha   * koha: Bug 7620: OPACNoResult, Add keyword to query string
23:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9112 normal, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Pushed to Master , Update of SQL file for italian setup
23:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9278 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove unused OPAC CSS file sanop.css
23:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8955 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Self checkout should degrade gracefully with JavaScript turned off
23:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9158 minor, P5 - low, ---, chrish, Pushed to Master , Correcting whitespace around display of series 440 marc fields
23:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9169 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Wrap relator code in <span> to allow for CSS customization
23:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7620 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , OPACNoResult, add search string to available parameters
23:09 drojf          uh german translation not done. lousy, lazy drojf
23:10 drojf          why are there file paths in the translation?!
23:10 drojf          pootle is a stange beast
23:12 cait           lazy translators indeed
23:14 drojf          hi cait :)
23:15 cait           hi drojf
23:20 drojf          english: 'religious text' -> german: 'Delicious'. omnomnom.
23:21 jcamins        drojf: really?
23:21 cait           ah I thought ai had translate that earlier
23:21 cait           are you looking at 3.8?
23:21 drojf          yes
23:21 cait           i did some work on 3.10, but was already too late
23:21 drojf          3.8 is only a little
23:21 drojf          can't do 3.10 tonight
23:21 cait           I have too injured finger tips
23:21 drojf          an option to ignore startcaps would help
23:21 cait           not typing translations tonight
23:22 drojf          oh what did you do?
23:22 cait           grating radish for a salad...
23:23 jcamins        drojf: she was making finger salad.
23:23 drojf          ouch :(
23:23 cait           hpmf
23:24 cait           yeah
23:27 cait           s/too/two