Time Nick Message 23:45 cjh howl's moving castle is fantastic. 23:33 tcohen_ leaving, asado ahead byeeee #koha 23:33 tcohen_ both really nice films, a bit sad the first 23:33 bag my brother works in hollywood so maybe I got that from him 23:32 bag I like the big screen 23:32 bag I love going to the movies 23:32 jcamins Nope. Howl's Moving Castle and Spirited Away. 23:32 tcohen_ Princess MOnonoke? 23:32 jcamins (this is exciting because whenever the conversation turns to film, I generally have absolutely no frame of reference... I'm never been a film buff) 23:31 jcamins Ooh! I've actually seen two of his films (on DVD)! 23:30 mtompset My driving continues. Have a good day (24 hour period). 23:30 tcohen_ I hope we see some nice Miyazaki's film in 3D soon 23:29 tcohen_ heh 23:29 jcamins But I definitely know the pictures of Avatar were all blue or green. 23:29 * jcamins has trouble telling the difference between blue and green. 23:28 jcamins Or green. 23:28 jcamins I know it's blue. 23:28 mtompset I'm not talking plot, tcohen_. :P 23:28 drojf i was going to say i did not visit a cinema the whole year but it's not true. i have seen a few greenlandic movies at a small film festival, that was pretty nice (w/o commercials, ok ticket prices and not too many people inside) 23:28 jcamins tcohen_: good, that means I don't have to feel bad about not having seen it. 23:28 tcohen_ avatar sucked both in 2D and 3D :-P 23:27 * jcamins doesn't like going to films. 23:26 drojf oh. cinema. the place where you pay a lot of money to watch all these "'piracy' is bad, mkay" commercials, other commercials, get spy'd on with infrared deviced, pay tons of money for a drink and have to listen to strangers eating popcorn and chips for hours. i remember that. good old times. 23:23 jcamins And no subway. 23:22 jcamins It's also ~3 miles away. 23:22 bag heh 23:22 jcamins Oh, this theatre charges only $11. 23:20 bag I remember $2 a ticket :P 23:20 jcamins You get a crappy seat and still pay a fortune. 23:20 jcamins Not here. 23:20 mtompset That costs extra too. 23:20 jcamins I remember paying $7/ticket. 23:20 mtompset Also, some theatres are letting you choose your seat when you purchase the ticket. 23:19 bag jcamins: 12 bucks here 23:19 bag yup Avatar was the first one that really ever worked for me - and really popped off the screen 23:19 jcamins Yeah, I think it was $16/person last time we went to the cinema. 23:18 mtompset Cool. 23:18 mtompset Ah, so the newer 3D works for you? 23:18 bag but with the new polarized 3D techies I can see it and really enjoy it 23:18 bag cause for years and years it never worked for me - I'm red/green color blind 23:18 mtompset Hobbit in 3D ... sucky use of 3D. 23:18 mtompset Avatar in 3D was good use of 3D. 23:18 bag I love the 3D movies 23:17 mtompset $20?! 23:17 jcamins Given that movie tickets are approach $20, I generally avoid going to movies anyway. 23:16 mtompset It's a marketing gimmick for which they charge $1.50 more (or whatever) 23:16 jcamins Is that a new thing that's common? 23:16 jcamins Hey, I saw a sign at a movie theatre that said that they showed movies in 3D, too. 23:15 mtompset It was pretty good. 3D was pretty lame for the most part though. :( 23:15 mtompset I saw it opening night 10pm in theatres. 23:14 BobB Is mtj on christmas hollies already? 23:13 BobB 't kill him? 23:13 BobB hope it didn 23:13 huginn BobB: mtj was last seen in #koha 6 days, 17 hours, 42 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <mtj> ooh, i felt that one -> http://www.geonet.org.nz/quakes/region/newzealand/2012p938451 23:13 BobB @seen mtj 23:09 eythian I'm not toally sure if it's the fps or the lighting that does that though. I'd need to compare it in 24fps to know 23:09 * wizzyrea notices this on new tv's and always has to turn off the color correction that does it 23:09 wizzyrea (that may be true too) 23:09 eythian it does, the start of it looks like a made-for-tv BBC documentary with people from þe olden timeys. 23:09 wizzyrea besides that 23:09 wizzyrea this is something else I think 23:08 jcamins (because the silver screen wasn't high fps) 23:08 jcamins wizzyrea: I read an article about how the reason the framerate is fixed where it is is that it was an early technical limitation, and when they developed the technology for faster refresh, people thought it looked amateurish. 23:08 wizzyrea well yes, that's a digital-ised comparison 23:08 eythian although, the brain isn't a digital device with a fixed clock cycle, so I'm not sure it's reasonable to make comparisons like that. 23:08 wizzyrea it was really interesting 23:08 * wizzyrea will find the article 23:07 wizzyrea exactly! 23:07 eythian in that case, >35fps wouldn't matter. 23:07 bag I'm rocking about 5fps 23:07 wizzyrea then things get weird and you start getting dropped frames 23:07 bag not my brain - maybe yours 23:07 bag ahhh 23:07 wizzyrea your brain can only process ~35 fps 23:06 wizzyrea ;) 23:06 wizzyrea ah no it isn't 23:06 bag really but we see in something close to 60fps or so 23:06 wizzyrea tech has officially surpassed the human ability concieve of it 23:06 eythian the world is >48fps 23:06 wizzyrea that we can't actually process that much data. 23:06 wizzyrea i read that it's actually a hardware problem with humans 23:06 bag I'm going to a theater that has 48fps and 3d but not a massive big screen 23:06 eythian a bit odd to get used to, but once things get moving you forget all about it 23:05 wizzyrea how did you find the extra special framerate 23:05 bag that's soo freaking cool 23:05 wizzyrea ! 23:05 * eythian saw it in what turns out to be among the worlds most advanced theatres, as it was super-upgraded for this movie 23:05 wizzyrea that part would be not so good. 23:05 wizzyrea hehe 23:05 bag and get thrown out within 5 minutes of the mocvie starting 23:05 bag I'll cheer when I see ByWater on the map :) heh 23:04 jcamins lol 23:04 bag running to the bathroom cause it's 3 hours long! 23:04 eythian I'll tell you how it ends... 23:03 bag heh 23:03 bag in 4 hours and 45 minutes ;) 23:03 bag I'm going tonight 23:03 jcamins How was it? 23:03 jcamins bag: nope. 23:03 bag jcamins: you see the hobbit yet? 22:58 jcamins In my experience. 22:58 jcamins That's impressive. Those are two shows that rarely come up in conversation. 22:58 jcamins In the past week or so I have managed to quote Pajama Game and A Little Night Music. 22:58 eythian oh, this reminds me, new humble indie bundle of games out today 22:57 mtompset Ha ha ha. 22:57 jcamins I've got... steeaaaammmm heat, I've got steeeaaammmm heat... 22:57 wahanui I know. 22:57 jcamins Yes, that's right. 22:56 jcamins mtompset: don't move to NYC. Most buildings are heated with it. 22:56 mtompset Did I mention I really dislike steam? :P 22:50 cjh true 22:50 eythian zactly 22:50 jcamins No /g 22:50 jcamins True. 22:50 eythian 's/y//' would have done it 22:50 jcamins lol 22:50 eythian that could be simplified a lot 22:50 cjh s#s/very/very/#s/ver/very/# 22:49 * cjh gives up 22:49 jcamins :P 22:49 cjh hahaha 22:49 jcamins Looks the same. 22:49 * jcamins squints at the regexed string. 22:48 cjh s/very/very/ >.> 22:48 eythian that'd do it 22:48 cjh I have been studying chemistry all morning, so ver plausible 22:47 eythian Maybe you're just having a stroke or something 22:47 cjh the words seem interesting, cant speak for the content. 22:46 eythian and tweakers.net is often interesting 22:46 cjh \o/ 22:46 eythian I just read the first link I got :) 22:46 * cjh is getting worse at this reading thing 22:46 eythian http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/12/steam-linux-to-launch-open-beta-next-week <-- try that one 22:46 * cjh squints at screen 22:45 eythian http://tweakers.net/nieuws/86103/steam-linux-gaat-binnenkort-in-open-beta.html <-- looks like it's opening anyway 22:44 cjh rangi got his invite :( 22:44 eythian might be that 22:44 eythian I also contend the notion that it sucks, therefore mtompset is wrong :) 22:44 cjh I dont think steam for linux is open yet, they are just sending out more invites. at least last time I checked. 22:44 jcamins http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2011-06-03#i_685812 22:44 eythian it really is 22:44 cjh braid is a great game 22:43 eythian might revisit that over christmas. 22:43 * eythian has too many games lined up to play as it is. Still stuck on Braid. 22:43 eythian I thought I heard that steam had gone open beta on Linux now 22:42 mtompset Good question. 22:42 cjh wow 22:41 jcamins Where on earth did that come from? 22:41 wahanui Games are all local executables and not really part of the project per se, but they are all currently listed in a MySql db for various reasons. He has the scripts and some server-side HTML code to generate the interface. 22:41 jcamins Games? 22:41 mtompset Sorry, linux games suck, and I hate dual boot. 22:40 eythian or something like that 22:40 eythian mtompset: apt-get remove windows ; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop 22:38 mtompset Windows 7 power options. :P 22:36 jcamins mtompset: ^^ 22:36 tcohen mtompset: vodka? 22:35 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 22:33 * mtompset needs to figure out how to not hibernate. 22:22 wahanui cjh: i'm not following you... 22:22 cjh wahanui: agree! 22:22 wahanui cjh: sorry... 22:22 cjh wahanui: Agree! 22:22 wahanui jcamins: what? 22:22 jcamins wahanui: literal jcamins agree 22:21 wahanui jcamins: what? 22:21 jcamins wahanui: literal I agree 22:21 cjh a disobedient bot 22:21 jcamins jcamins agree! 22:21 eythian yeah, but that one didn't appear to save in a sensible form I think 22:21 cjh heh 22:21 wahanui eythian: i'm not following you... 22:21 eythian wahanui: literal \I agree! 22:21 wahanui eythian: i'm not following you... 22:21 eythian wahanui: literal \I agree 22:21 wahanui eythian: the koha community =is= an amazing thing 22:21 eythian wahanui: literal the koha community 22:21 wahanui cjh: what? 22:21 cjh wahanui: literal I agree! 22:21 wahanui eythian: what? 22:20 eythian wahanui: literal I agree 22:20 BobB Thanks everyone, that was quite awesome 22:20 eythian i think it's to do with trigger lengths, but I'm not really sure. 22:20 BobB thank you cait, good night! 22:20 eythian heh 22:20 BobB lol 22:20 cait and I am really gone now - bye all :) 22:20 * cjh agree! 22:20 cait eythian: I think wahanui needs more cookies 22:19 cait lol 22:19 cait I agree! 22:19 jcamins I agree! 22:19 wahanui OK, jcamins. 22:19 jcamins wahanui: \I agree! is <reply> Hear hear! 22:19 wahanui i already had it that way, jcamins. 22:19 jcamins wahanui: \I agree is <reply> Hear hear! 22:19 jcamins I agree? 22:19 jcamins I agree 22:19 jcamins I agree! 22:19 wahanui OK, jcamins. 22:19 jcamins wahanui: I agree is <reply> Hear hear! 22:19 BobB You're excused. 22:18 wahanui BobB: excuse me? 22:18 BobB wahanui: I agree! 22:18 wahanui rumour has it the koha community is an amazing thing 22:18 BobB The koha community? 22:18 BobB Zebra all along. 22:17 jcamins Yup, that sounds right. 22:17 BobB so the rule found nothing to match on. 22:17 BobB So my take on it is this: I was importing into a copy of the Koha but had not rebuilt the index after making the copy: 22:16 BobB Two theological colleges merging, its not surprising there are a lot of matches. :) 22:16 jcamins Yay! 22:15 BobB 13948 records with at least one match in catalog per matching rule "ISBN" 22:15 BobB Success! 22:10 cait BobB: hope it's successful this time around 22:10 cait yay :) 22:08 jcamins Hooray! Success! 22:07 jenkins_koha jcamins: Update history with our newest committer 22:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #985: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/985/ 21:58 BobB zebra done. Importing again ... 21:45 wahanui rumour has it the koha community is an amazing thing 21:45 wizzyrea The koha community? 21:45 wahanui the koha community is an amazing thing 21:45 wizzyrea the koha community? 21:45 wahanui i already had it that way, wizzyrea. 21:45 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #225 added. 21:45 wizzyrea @quote add eythian: The koha community is a major force in preventing the extinction of zebras with the amount we're rebuilding. 21:44 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg huginn register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) 21:44 wizzyrea @quote get 23 21:44 huginn wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 21:44 wizzyrea @quote add eythian: The koha community is a major force in preventing the extinction of zebras with the amount we're rebuilding. 21:41 cait hehe 21:41 eythian The koha community is a major force in preventing the extinction of zebras with the amount we're rebuilding. 21:34 BobB rebuilding zebra 21:20 jcamins Yes, you'll have to reindex Zebra without a doubt. :) 21:20 cait good luck! 21:19 BobB Wow, that could be it. I copied the koha but did not rebuild zebra afterwards. Two things to try now. :) 21:19 cait so maybe try a search for an isbn you think should match 21:18 jcamins If your Zebra indexes aren't up-to-date, it will match anything. 21:18 jcamins BobB: right, staging the record matches using Zebra. 21:18 cait i think the staging tool uses zebra indexes for finding the matching records 21:18 BobB No cait, its the Staging utility that reports no matches. It hasn't got as far as zebra. 21:17 cait because you the import is using zebra... so if zebresrv was not running or the records were not indexed yet, no matches 21:17 BobB I will export a record and reimport it. Then it will indisputably be a match. :) 21:17 cait is search working? 21:17 cait could it be a search problem? 21:16 cait hm 21:16 jcamins Nope. :( 21:16 BobB Not the answer then. :( 21:15 BobB Ah, OK. 21:15 jcamins Prior to 3.10, importing authorities wasn't possible. 21:15 jcamins Okay, ignore that field. 21:15 jcamins Jing. 21:15 BobB Yes, 3.8.6 21:15 BobB What's the tool you used to post that screenshot? 21:15 jcamins Oh, you're on 3.8? 21:14 BobB There you go: you have a field Record Type underneath the Threshhold field. I do not have that field! 21:12 cait jcamins++ :) 21:11 jcamins (my matching rule) 21:11 jcamins BobB: http://screencast.com/t/NbqLEdLjwZ 21:11 BobB I'll look further at the actual records, then. 21:10 jcamins Well... other than stage MARC import not being compatible with starman. 21:10 jcamins BobB: works perfectly for me. 21:09 BobB thank you jcamins 21:08 jcamins I'll test an ISBN matching rule. 21:07 BobB hmmm: 0 records with at least one match in catalog per matching rule "ISBN" 21:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #985 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Update history with our newest committer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ecf358ee3de0617ef53fc54f30d3f4a34e08b3c> 20:53 cait *fingers crossed* 20:52 BobB Importing the file. 20:52 jcamins There is always opportunity for people interested in packaging! 20:52 BobB No match checks. 20:52 BobB matchpoint components 020, a, 0, 0, ISBN 20:52 BobB matchpoint 1: index isbn, score 1000 20:52 BobB Matching rule code: ISBN, desc 020$a, threshhold 1000 20:52 BobB The rule now is: 20:52 BobB Ok, I've copied the Koha instance and changed the matching rule. 20:52 janPasi (or complicated) 20:52 janPasi it's getting too complex to manage without it 20:51 janPasi slackware would really be in need of dependency checking nowdays 20:51 wizzyrea ah yep 20:51 janPasi i love slackware, but debian is easier for koha 20:51 wizzyrea brave you are. 20:50 wizzyrea slackware! 20:50 wizzyrea oh, yes probably 20:50 janPasi it must have been the previous slackware system that had them in /var/spool/cron 20:50 jcamins Suddenly that question makes much more sense. 20:50 janPasi oh, ok :D 20:50 wizzyrea but in the tarball they're in misc/cronjobs 20:50 jcamins Wait, do you mean the crontab listing, or the actual scripts? 20:50 wizzyrea with packages 20:49 wizzyrea in debian they're in /etc/cron.* 20:49 jcamins In misc/cronjobs 20:49 janPasi where are they then? 20:49 jcamins I'd think it would be users' crontab files, if anything. 20:49 jcamins I have no idea what would be in /var/spool/cron/crontabs. 20:48 wizzyrea what os? 20:48 janPasi what on earth is going on now... :D 20:48 janPasi althoug I'm sure they were there earlier? 20:48 jcamins Ummm... why would they be there? 20:48 janPasi no they aren't not in my system :O 20:48 jcamins janPasi: they're still there. 20:48 janPasi shouldn't they be in /var/spool/cron/crontabs? 20:47 wizzyrea ? 20:47 janPasi where did koha cronjobs dissappear? :o 20:32 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Linking to Authorities in Koha 3.8 and 3.10 http://t.co/s48YnBkM" 20:32 jcamins_away BobB: okay, I'll second druthb's recommendation. 20:31 BobB Correct jcamins 20:31 jcamins_away BobB: when you say "exactly matching ISBNs," you mean that the ISBNs match records already in the database, not a file with duplicates, right? 20:31 BobB cool, thank you. 20:30 druthb equal does work for me, BobB. 20:30 BobB ok, thx, I'll try again 20:30 druthb should be, yeah. 20:30 BobB I haven't looked to see if there are spaces around any of the file entries, but I think they should be ignored anyway, if there? 20:28 BobB I thought the manual said it had to add up to higher, but equal obviously works for you? 20:28 druthb Possibly, but it *shouldn't* have to be exactly equal...the threshold or greater is the way it's supposed to work. 20:28 cait 1000 and 1001 seems a bit unusual to me, I think we have it on the same value for the 001 rule we use 20:27 BobB I'll have another go now. 20:27 cait druthb: maybe treshold = score would help too? 20:27 BobB Its takes half an hour to test each time ... set up a copy of the Koha, check the matching rule, import the file, wait for it to index .... 20:25 druthb I'm not entirely sure what the match checks are *supposed* to do, even--I've never seen a rule work that had one, though. Toss them out, and it works. QED. 20:25 BobB I think i did try that though. But I'll try it again. Thx. 20:25 druthb yes. 20:25 BobB Just use the matching rule itself? 20:24 druthb yah. 20:24 BobB Oh is that right? 20:24 BobB target: 020, a, 0, 0, null 20:24 druthb Try tossing out the match check, BobB...shouldn't need it. 20:24 BobB match check 1, source: 020, a , 0, 0, null 20:24 druthb Should work, if zebra is otherwise healthy and returning results from an isbn search. 20:23 cait hm why 1001? 20:23 BobB matchpoint components 020, a, 0, 0, ISBN 20:22 BobB matchpoint 1: index isbn, score 1001 20:21 wizzyrea hmm probably not that recent though 20:21 BobB Matching rule code: ISBN, desc 020$a, threshhold 1000 20:21 BobB ahh, version 3.8.6 20:20 wizzyrea matching wouldn't work 20:20 wizzyrea where if you edited a rule, or used a new rule 20:20 wizzyrea i ask because there was a version somewhere along the line 20:20 wizzyrea what version? 20:19 BobB Here are my settings: 20:19 BobB But I don't get any matches. :( 20:19 BobB I know there are exactly matching ISBNs in the file, so I have set up an ISBN matching rule. 20:18 BobB I have a file of marc records that import just fine with no matching rule. 20:17 BobB I have a Koha catalogue to which we are adding another branch. 20:17 BobB I have a question. 20:07 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WfQ4t2E7iAU#! 20:00 cait hi BobB :) 19:59 BobB good morning all 19:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9287 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Stable , socialnetworks is enabled by default 19:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9144 trivial, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Stable , bulkmarcimport.pl - Problem identifying errors 19:56 jenkins_koha * mirko: Bug 9287 - socialnetworks is enabled by default 19:56 jenkins_koha * vfernandes: Bug 9144 - bulkmarcimport.pl - Problem identifying errors 19:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #34: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/34/ 19:45 cait hi wizzyrea :) 19:44 wizzyrea s/is/was/ 19:44 wizzyrea there was something I was going to ask you about and now I don't remember what it is 19:43 wizzyrea oleonard: hi! 19:43 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 19:42 wizzyrea how is everybody 19:42 * wizzyrea waves 19:42 cait are eythian and rangi not helping with the cookies? :) 19:41 kathryn no thank you! 19:41 cait thx :) 19:41 * cait takes some cookies yum. 19:40 kathryn uh huh 19:40 cait need help? :) 19:40 cait hehe 19:40 kathryn big problems today :( 19:40 cait oh 19:40 kathryn there's a bucket of cookies on my desk cait, and I'm having trouble getting them eaten! 19:39 cait hi kathryn :) 19:39 kathryn hi #koha }:0) 19:22 druthb cait++ 19:22 cait you are welcome :) 19:22 rangi thanks 19:22 rangi yep appears to 19:21 cait rangi: does pootle work for you now? 19:19 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Linking to Authorities in Koha 3.8 and 3.10 http://t.co/I78IZPC1 #kohails" 19:16 cait :) 19:16 rangi followed all the rules! 19:16 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=14200 19:16 cait oh, link? 19:15 rangi i think this is perhaps the best patch from a new person ever 19:15 cait hm? 19:15 rangi wow 19:15 jenkins_koha Starting build #34 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:14 cait hm you only had one permission, try again :) 19:13 cait right, I am looking in the rong play anyway 19:13 rangi chrisc 19:13 cait pootle has no user search... it's alphabetic 19:13 cait rangi: what is your user name? 19:12 * druthb is around, sort of. 19:11 rangi cool 19:11 cait i can take a look, but I think druthb might be around too 19:11 cait werid 19:11 rangi i can see it if im not logged in 19:11 cait oh 19:11 rangi logged in 19:11 rangi go to that page 19:11 cait when you try to do what? 19:10 rangi i get Permission Denied 19:10 rangi http://translate.koha-community.org/en_NZ/ 19:10 rangi cait: can you fix permissions on translate? 19:08 cait maybe you will get a special christmas present if that continues :) 19:08 cait cool :) 19:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Ordering branches should be case independent 19:04 rangi bug 5634 19:04 rangi Nadia Nicolaides 19:04 rangi ohh another new person 18:55 cait hi NateC 18:53 rangi hi NateC 18:49 cait ... 18:49 cait now I scared him away 18:48 jcamins Okay, time to go. 18:46 cait jcamins++ 18:45 vfernandes bye 18:45 vfernandes i have to go... see you tomorrow 18:45 vfernandes jcamins++ 18:44 jcamins Good! 18:44 vfernandes the patch commit guidelines is a good help to set the patch text... 18:44 jcamins Oh, and I need to update the history. 18:43 jcamins vfernandes++ 18:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9254 enhancement, P2, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Problem with EnhancedMessagingPreferences 18:43 vfernandes thanks jcamins... patch to bug 9254 submitted 18:28 vfernandes thats what I thought :) 18:28 jcamins Absolutely. 18:27 vfernandes [% IF ( EnhancedMessagingPreferences && OPACEnhancedMessagingPreferences) %] this is possible? 18:27 jcamins That's up to you. :) 18:26 vfernandes but OPACEnhancedMessagingPreferences should work only if EnhancedMessagingPreferences is active right? 18:23 vfernandes ok :) 18:23 jcamins You can change the variable name to OPACEnhancedMessagingPreferences, for example. 18:23 jcamins Right. 18:23 vfernandes then in usermenu.inc I have to change this line [% IF ( EnhancedMessagingPreferences ) %] 18:22 vfernandes humm ok 18:22 jcamins In the OPAC section. 18:22 jcamins In that case, you'll want to add the variable to C4::Auth. 18:22 vfernandes i already added a system preference OPACMessagingPreference 18:22 jcamins I understand. 18:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9254 enhancement, P2, ---, vfernandes, NEW , Problem with EnhancedMessagingPreferences 18:21 vfernandes bug 9254 sorry 18:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9245 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Visual Bug under fines tab 18:21 vfernandes bug 9245 - the EnhancedMessagingPreferences enables the my messaging page, the goal is to have another preference to controll the page appearance in OPAC 18:20 jcamins Right, but what is it you want to do, exactly? That changes how I might tell you to do things. 18:19 vfernandes for example EnhancedMessagingPreferences controlls the appearing of my messaging page 18:19 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" 18:19 jcamins First question? 18:19 vfernandes guys how I can add a variable to controll the usermenu.inc in the OPAC 18:19 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Brooklyn, Wellington, New Zealand is 14.4°C (7:17 AM NZDT on December 20, 2012). Conditions: . Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling). 18:19 rangi @wunder nzwn 18:15 wahanui morning is, like, a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast 18:15 jcamins Morning. 18:14 wahanui Morning is, like, a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast 18:14 rangi Morning 17:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9279 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Problem with quick slip templates 17:54 vfernandes Bug 9279 - simple bug awaiting to be signed off... 17:27 druthb Getting the translation server has been a bit of mischief--but I appreciate soooooo much all the translators' hard work! 17:19 vfernandes thank god that next week i'm on vacations... i can't see more translations xD 17:19 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @clrh: "1.0 dans les bacs \o/ http://t.co/YHMZ8eLM #ils #sigb #opac #drupal #kohails" 17:18 gerundio nice christmas gift for the Portuguese users 17:18 gerundio vfernandes++ 17:18 gerundio thanks a lot, sure will be using it tomorrow 17:17 druthb probably 17:17 gerundio druthb, ok, now I see the changes... must have been some cache or something 17:13 druthb There are only two changes--removing that line, and adding TRUNCATE message_queue;... it updated for me, gerundio, but those are the diffs. 17:13 jcamins vfernandes: :D 17:13 vfernandes portugues translations at 90%... looking good 17:12 vfernandes I don't know... well looks like it's time for a coffee 17:12 gerundio TRUNCATE user_permissions; still remains there 17:12 jcamins vfernandes: route down between you and the server? 17:11 vfernandes damn :/ what's happening? :D 17:11 gerundio druthb, refreshed the SQL script page 17:11 gerundio although I'm just click around on some links, not doing any updates 17:11 gerundio vfernandes, looks good to me too 17:10 druthb whizzing along really good for me--no load on the server to speak of. 17:09 jcamins druthb can say for sure, but I just clicked around and it looks pretty fast. 17:09 vfernandes it was working super quickly but then puff... :/ 17:08 vfernandes started like 5 minutes ago 17:08 jcamins Still? 17:08 vfernandes too slow or not working at all 17:08 jcamins vfernandes: you tell us. :) 17:07 vfernandes any problem with koha translate? 17:03 druthb sure enough, gerundio; I caught that problem some time back and had not pushed it. Refreshing the page will show you the updated script. 17:01 gerundio brb, heading over to talk to the IT team 17:01 druthb Been a while since I pushed that repo. 17:01 gerundio ok 17:00 druthb let me check that repo against my working copy.. I think I see some things that may be different. sec. 17:00 gerundio lots of backing up for sure during the works :D 16:59 gerundio druthb, doesn't user_permissions contains settings for staff? 16:59 jcamins Take a backup first, of course. 16:58 druthb Mhm. That's why I wrote it. 16:58 gerundio in that case, running the script does look like the way to go 16:58 gerundio well, the script mentions that the configurations and staff settings will be kept 16:57 druthb Hosing up the bib load is common as fleas on a stray dog, even for folks who do it all the time (58 migrations last year, I think). So wiping that without messing with configs is something I need to do *a lot*. Thus, this script. 16:56 gerundio druthb, I already have some patrons in the DB, loaded from LDAP like jcamins said 16:56 druthb *Snort* Then you'll wanna run this script, as-is, gerundio. It Works. You're gonna need to back all the way up to biblios in any event, so I'd just do it. Look it over, if you feel it necessary, but I use this script a *lot* for exactly the situation you describe. 16:54 jcamins druthb: patrons are loaded on the fly from LDAP. 16:54 jcamins Any attempt at a middle road is going to greatly increase your chances of a situation where my advice is "start over from scratch." 16:54 druthb It looks like the only problems you're having are biblio/items stuff.. have you loaded patrons? 16:54 gerundio thank you very much both of you for all the info 16:54 gerundio I'll have a careful look at the tables in that script and I'll just truncate the ones I want to reload the data into 16:54 * druthb reads her scrollback buffer. 16:53 jcamins Right, but your options as I see them are A) keep the data you have, and fix things either using a very clever script or manually, or B) reload the data. 16:53 gerundio it's like a big bump on the road 16:53 gerundio my problem here is that this is not a migration 16:52 jcamins If your database gets out of sync, you'll be in a much worse situation. 16:52 druthb you can drop out any of the lines you *know* you wanna keep, gerundio. This is the script we use for getting ready for migrations. 16:52 jcamins gerundio: I think you're better off using it. 16:52 gerundio druthb, thanks but that does a lot more than what I need :D 16:52 * druthb blushes. 16:51 druthb aw, thanks. 16:51 gerundio druthb++ 16:51 oleonard druthb++ 16:51 jcamins Slick! 16:50 druthb https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/koha-migration-toolbox/blobs/master/mysql/clean_database.sql will tidy up for a migration, tossing bibs, items, all non-staff borrowers, all transactional data...leaving staff users and configuration stuff. 16:49 jcamins Well... if the system works properly, they should be deleted. 16:49 gerundio with *a lot of* luck they would just match 16:49 jcamins I think those should mostly cascade. 16:49 gerundio so if I truncate the main tables and left these ones alone 16:48 gerundio well, the number of records and items I'm importing is exactly the number of existing ones right now 16:48 jcamins druthb may have a list of which tables to *keep* prior to a final migration. 16:48 jcamins However, if you've already been circulating, records of any books that are out will be irretrievably lost. 16:48 gerundio the list goes on and on ehehehe 16:48 gerundio :D 16:48 gerundio just for testing purposes 16:48 jcamins If so, you'll need to delete all that. 16:47 jcamins Have you already been circulating? 16:47 jcamins Ah. 16:47 jcamins Hm. 16:47 gerundio I see old_reserves and old_issues tables in my DB 16:47 jcamins old*? 16:47 gerundio how about other tables like issues, reserves and notifies and old*? 16:44 jcamins (if you're using packages) 16:43 jcamins sessions and zebraqueue are automatically truncated every so often. 16:43 jcamins s/That // 16:43 jcamins That You can add auth_header, sessions, and zebraqueue too. 16:42 gerundio I just found this on the Koha manual: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/resetkohadb.html 16:42 jcamins Also, you'd need to truncate the various deleted_* tables. 16:41 jcamins No, there isn't, because it's generally considered a bad idea to make it possible to completely and irretrievably erase all your data. 16:41 gerundio in this case there's no workaround, is that it? 16:41 gerundio I'm not a fan of using queries directly into MySQL :| 16:40 jcamins It only deletes items. 16:40 jcamins Not at all. 16:40 jcamins No. 16:40 gerundio would the Batch item deletion tool do the trick? 16:39 jcamins You can truncate biblio and the various reservoir tables. 16:38 jcamins That's probably your best bet. 16:38 gerundio is there any clean way to reset the catalog? 16:38 gerundio and re-import everything 16:38 gerundio so now I'm thinking about reseting the catalog 16:38 jcamins That's correct. 16:37 jcamins Also the index. 16:37 gerundio so I guess there's no matching rule that can save me in this case 16:37 gerundio instead of 1 record + multiple items 16:37 gerundio I was told that in our library we have multiple records for the same book 16:37 gerundio but right now my problem just grew bigger 16:36 gerundio I guess I just have to change the Tag and Subfields values 16:36 jcamins That's for the control number, obviously. 16:36 jcamins Other than that, looks fine. 16:35 jcamins Ignore the code and description. They have nothing to do with the actual rule. 16:33 gerundio jcamins, I'm looking at the example in http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/catadmin.html, section 4.7. Record Matching Rules 16:30 jcamins_away gerundio: there's a sample rule for that. 16:13 gerundio I want something as simple as matching records using the ISBN MARC field 16:13 gerundio anyone experienced in creating record matching rules? 16:05 reiveune bye 16:04 gerundio found it: Home › Administration › Record matching rules › Add record matching rule 16:03 gerundio how can I add a record matching rule to use in the Stage MARC records for import tool? 15:10 kf bye all 15:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9104 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , country in CSV in overdue_notices.pl 15:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8125 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , SIP should send Zipcode with address 15:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9287 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Master , socialnetworks is enabled by default 15:07 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9104: country in CSV in overdue_notices.pl 15:07 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 8125 Sip addess should include all address fields 15:07 jenkins_koha * mirko: Bug 9287 - socialnetworks is enabled by default 15:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #984: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/984/ 14:44 druthb o/ 14:30 jenkins_koha nengard: update patron categories admin 14:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #257: STILL FAILING in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/257/ 14:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #257 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 25 days ago) 14:27 gerundio not the average Android user for sure :) 14:27 gerundio just use wifi connection to update the apps and play song pop 14:27 gerundio no internet plan 14:26 gerundio I have one for over 1 year now and I just have a regular non smartphone usage 14:26 drojf it's 4.0.4. jelly bean i think (i don't know much about android...) 14:25 drojf doesn't work with username/password either on this device 14:25 gerundio no certificate :) 14:24 drojf with user certificate? 14:24 gerundio I can connect to eduroam just fine 14:24 gerundio hmm, I'm still using Gingerbread on my Xperia X10 14:22 drojf apparently that is a bug 14:22 drojf http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=34212 14:22 drojf "why did you buy a non-free device?" is a valid answer too 14:22 gerundio "repair wifi access to eduroam"? 14:22 drojf gerundio: lol. yeah my boss is out for lunch. anyway i would have to root that thing to repair wifi access to eduroam. i don't think that is something i am going to do in my office hours (or my spare time)... 14:18 gerundio drojf, can't help with that... Android device with no Google account assign is just a cool paperweight 14:02 drojf but thanks 14:02 drojf ok i can't install anything anyway because there is no google account in there yet. (not my device) 14:00 gerundio so I guess I might be wrong 14:00 gerundio drojf, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=berserker.android.apps.sshdroid&hl=en, SSHDroid says Root is optional but not required to run this application. 14:00 drojf gerundio: thanks! 14:00 jenkins_koha Starting build #984 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 13:59 gerundio check this article from XDA 13:59 gerundio http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Guide:Using_the_Terminal 13:58 gerundio unrooted ^^ 13:58 gerundio I have an unrooter Android phone 13:58 gerundio drojf, I think not 13:57 drojf or rather, do i get there at all if it's new/unrooted? 13:55 drojf can somebody tell me how i get into a terminal in android? 13:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9104: country in CSV in overdue_notices.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c0d2db7781e24ca00691620733072b3c0573fb35> / Bug 8125 Sip addess should include all address fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=570372b24ef081aca5bbb8aea8a1462fced14e68> / Bug 9287 - socialnetworks is enabled by default <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdi 13:41 oleonard Oh, opac-memberentry.pl is the new patron self-registration page. That's why it wasn't covered by my patch. 13:36 kf hi tcohen 13:36 tcohen hi kf, jcamins 13:36 kf surprising 13:35 kf hmm 13:35 jcamins No. 13:35 kf #fuzzy or similar? 13:35 kf jcamins: does it say fuzzy? 13:35 jcamins You can do a follow-up for opac-memberentry.pl, so that the patch that already passed QA can be pushed (assuming I get it to work). 13:34 jcamins I will look at this again tonight or tomorrow when I'm at home. 13:34 * jcamins thinks he isn't going to figure this out in the next five minutes. 13:33 jcamins It appears in the PO file, and is translated. 13:32 jcamins Oh, good point. 13:32 kf for the string to appear 13:31 kf you wil probably have to check the po files 13:28 jcamins I'll try updating the language again. 13:28 jcamins Hm. I'm not sure the language thing is working. 13:27 jcamins Yes. 13:27 jcamins Oh, I bet I need to already have a hold. 13:26 oleonard On the holds tab, at the bottom, the "suspend all holds" control. 13:25 jcamins I can't find a calendar on opac-user.pl. 13:24 jcamins It doesn't work on opac-memberentry.pl. 13:23 jcamins The calendar icon vanished. 13:23 jcamins Hm. 13:23 jcamins Sort of. 13:23 oleonard But the datepicker doesn't work on opac-user.pl? 13:23 kf I was about to suggest activating the holds future thing 13:22 kf ah cool :) 13:22 jcamins I've continued testing, and it turns out that it works on the place hold page. 13:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9166 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , OPAC needs configuration file for datepicker 13:22 kf bug 9166 13:21 kf and good morning to both of you :) 13:21 jcamins Yes! 13:21 kf I am jealous :) 13:21 kf summoning oleonard? 13:21 jcamins Good morning, oleonard. 13:21 kf lol 13:21 oleonard And I just missed it? 13:21 jcamins It's my RM superpower! 13:20 jcamins That was amazing. 13:20 jcamins Wow. 13:19 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. 13:19 jcamins_away @later tell oleonard Do I need to do something special to activate 9166? It doesn't seem to work on "My personal details." 13:16 jenkins_koha * nengard: add patron self editing section 13:16 jenkins_koha * nengard: update note about required email for registration 13:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #256: STILL FAILING in 1 min 32 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/256/ 13:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #256 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 25 days ago) 12:58 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 12:11 kf you are welcome 12:11 gerundio thanks again kf 12:11 gerundio hopefully I have DB backups during this actions :D 12:11 kf I think if you clean you can't undo after 12:10 kf yep 12:10 gerundio "Undo import into catalog", is that it? 12:10 kf and then there is the button below the first table It hink 12:10 gerundio ok 12:10 kf of the batch 12:10 kf click to see the records 12:10 kf don't click clean 12:09 gerundio is that it? 12:09 gerundio only the 2nd one shows a "Clean" button on the "Action" collumn 12:09 gerundio I have 2 imports listed in my "Manage staged MARC records" table 12:08 kf there is a button on the manage staged marc records page 12:08 gerundio how can I revert it then? 12:07 kf but the revert also removes the items :) 12:07 gerundio thanks for the info 12:07 gerundio ohhhh 12:07 gerundio I was now looking at the "Matching rule applied" and "Action if matching record found" settings on "Manage staged MARC records" tool 12:07 kf all the matching only applies to the bibliotgraphic records, not to items 12:07 kf you will have to delete and reimport the items 12:07 kf and you can't update barcodes 12:07 kf did you check if those were duplicates? 12:07 gerundio which I now want to update 12:07 kf hm 12:06 gerundio the problem is there are some missing barcode on the imported records 12:06 kf yes, then you can revert it 12:06 gerundio kf, using the Manage staged MARC records 12:06 gerundio is the "Matching rule applied" and "Action if matching record found" on the "Manage staged MARC records" tool working properly? 12:06 kf gerundio: how did you do the import? 12:02 gerundio guys, is it possible to revert an import? 12:01 gerundio oi vfernandes 11:42 vfernandes hello 10:31 drojf kf: aaaw 10:27 kf good night bag 10:27 bag well good night #koha 10:24 kf drojf: I already give you a lot of karma, calling you dr goes too far 10:17 kroditi kf: ok. thank you very much for the help! 10:17 drojf as i said before, you can call me dr. drojf if you like ;) 10:17 drojf hi kf 10:17 kf hi drojf 10:17 kf hi dr 10:17 kf if pootle shows it correct, I would start translating there, note that for the pref, don't translate the #something part at the beginning of the string, you can take a look at german or french how it's done there 10:16 kf maybe file a bug for it, it would be good to have it documented 10:16 kf kroditi: the pref file and poedit are not working well - I think it's a problem with the file 10:14 drojf good day #koha 10:14 kroditi so, maybe the best option is to translate preferences online! 10:13 kroditi and when I reopen the editor, it is still under iso encoding 10:13 kroditi I tried changing the encoding, but nothing changes 10:13 kf maybe try to tell poedit to use utf8 10:12 kf I know that the pref file is missing a encoding declartion or something, so it gives me trouble too 10:12 kroditi Poedit 10:12 kf which editor are you using to open the po file? 10:12 kf hm could it be your editor? 10:11 kroditi the odd thing is that on translate tab, and on my browser's tab the characters appear correctly 10:11 kf druthb is in US so she won't be around for a bit longer 10:11 kf I am not sure 10:10 kf d 10:10 kf that is a bit weir 10:10 kf hm 10:10 kroditi kf: that is odd. the preferences po file is the only file I can download with no permission errors, but greek characters appear "broken" again! 10:06 kroditi kf: on top of the page All I can see is that there are 3 files, and all download links are under each po file. So, waiting for the permission issue to resolve and give another try 10:03 kf but I think the permission problem prevents it currently 10:03 kf download shoudl work too - to give you a single po file 10:02 kf you don't see it? 10:02 kf of the page 10:02 kf the zip link is on top f all 10:01 kroditi kf: I have two options download or download XLIFF. Is that due to my permissions? 10:01 kf kroditi: sorry, I cannot fix the permission problem, we will have to wait for the translation manager druthb to take a look at the problem 09:55 huginn kf: The operation succeeded. 09:55 kf @later tell druthb - there is a permission error when trying to download po files from pootle - could you take a look? I tried greek - review tab - download zip and po file 09:54 kf but there seems to be a problem with permissions currently hm. 09:54 kf on top is a link to download a zip file 09:54 kf kroditi: go to the review tab 09:53 kf when you are logged in 09:43 kf brb 09:42 kroditi kf: thank you! could you please advise me for something else? how can I download a .po file for greek system preferences? the file paul_p gave me has an encoding issue and the greek characters do not show! 09:39 kf happy it works now 09:39 kf no inconvenience 09:38 kroditi kf: I apologise for the inconvinience 09:37 kroditi kf: it worked 09:36 kroditi kf: let try once again with the old password 09:35 kf no domain 09:35 kroditi kf: no domain at the end? 09:35 kf I don't see your password 09:35 kf kroditi 09:35 kf sorry 09:35 kf user name is krodity 09:35 kf you acount is active 09:35 kf hm 09:34 kroditi kf: thank you! 09:34 kf I will take a look - give me a few minutes 09:28 kroditi kf: my username is kroditi@elidoc.gr 09:28 kf i can reset it for you - if you give me your user name 09:27 kroditi kf: hello, I cannot complete the procedure of password reset 09:23 kf kroditi: the server has been moved another time, but you should be able to login I think - if there is a problem you can give me your username and I can take a look 09:12 * paul_p at a meeting 09:12 kroditi paul_p: I am sure for my credentials, just wanted to make sure that all new accounts have been transferred to the new server before I tried to reset my password 09:11 kroditi paul_p: thank you 09:10 kroditi paul_p: no, i will now 09:10 * paul_p must leave for a meeting 09:10 paul_p kroditi = no problem to login for me. Are you sure you don't make a mistake ? have you tried the "lost password" procedure ? 09:10 kroditi ok 09:09 paul_p kroditi it's strange. It should not, because afaik, there has been no move those days. The move was before I created your account. I try to log in, just a moment pls 09:09 kroditi paul_p: good morning, I cannot log in translation project, could it be because of the server change? 09:08 paul_p good morning kroditi ! 09:07 kroditi :paul_p good morning 08:29 bag heya paul_p and julian_m 08:21 rangi hi julian_m 08:21 julian_m hi #koha 08:21 julian_m hi kf 08:20 kf hi julian_m 08:18 rangi hi paul_p 08:18 kf morning paul_p 08:18 paul_p morning #koha 08:17 kf heya rangi 08:17 rangi hi kf 08:17 kf moring #koha 07:44 reiveune hello 07:34 gaetan_B hello 07:33 rangi hi alex_a_ 07:32 alex_a_ bonjour 06:46 rangi ah yeah the aircon will be off now 06:45 cjh it's very warm in the office, our corner was getting a nice dose of afternoon sun. 06:33 bag I think maybe down to 4 or 5 early in the morning 06:33 bag rangi: pretty close 06:33 bag heya cait 06:33 cait oh hi bag :) 06:25 rangi that must be about as cold as it gets? 06:25 rangi heh 06:25 bag cold here - major win for rangi there 06:24 huginn bag: The current temperature in East Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 8.5°C (10:16 PM PST on December 18, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 7 am PST Wednesday... 06:24 bag @wunder 93109 06:24 rangi its hot! 06:24 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Brooklyn, Wellington, New Zealand is 21.3°C (7:23 PM NZDT on December 19, 2012). Conditions: . Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling). 06:24 rangi @wunder nzwn 01:37 Oak cait, you did not go to sleep last night? 01:37 Oak kia ora #koha