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00:52 jenkins_koha   Starting build #980 for job Koha_master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #978 23 hr ago)
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02:03 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #980: NOW UNSTABLE in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/980/
10:22 drojf          @wunder berlin, germany
10:22 huginn         drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 3.0°C (11:13 AM CET on December 15, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Rising).
10:23 drojf          almost hot ;)
10:24 cait           hehe
10:24 cait           @wunder Konstanz
10:24 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 5.0°C (11:00 AM CET on December 15, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
10:29 drojf          uh. summertime :)
10:32 cait           yeah
14:51 * wajasu       working on auth linking logic
15:12 wajasu         ok. after writing a script to generate a unique set of authority records from all the biblio headings, i ran link_bibs_to_authorities.pl to get them wired up(linked)
15:13 wajasu         but i had some issues with old $9 links not being deleted, and matching not just quite right.
15:15 wajasu         there is a routine check_valid_auth which looks up the auth record and compares the auth record heading to the heading in the biblio record heading.
15:17 wajasu         but  when formatting the heading  from the auth record, and formatting the heading from the biblio record, we use two different similiar routines, which may choose different subfield tags.
15:20 wajasu         C4:Heading::MARC21   bib_heading_fields   vs      C4::AuthoritesMarc::GetAuthorizedHeading      and it may non matches because chose subfield tags.
15:38 wajasu         when we generate an auth record we clone the heading field from the biblio record to auth record, then later when we check_valid_auth to determine a match compare:
15:43 wajasu         check_valid_auth: $field->as_string('abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz')  COMPAREDTO   GetAuthorizedHeading $field->as_string('abcdefghjklmnopqrstvxyz68');
15:45 wajasu         check_valid_auth     vs    C4::AuthoritesMarc::GetAuthorizedHeading      is the comparison.
15:47 * wajasu       ends thinking aloud
16:52 cait1          eythian or drojf around?
16:52 cait1          jcamins_away: ?
16:53 jcamins_away   Yes?
16:55 jcamins_away   I lost my bonefolder.
16:56 drojf          not really. still curious :)
16:57 drojf          jcamins_away: looked inside the cat?
16:58 jcamins_away   drojf: lol
16:58 drojf          cait1: ??
16:58 drojf          was that more like a general wakeup call to the channel?
16:58 cait1          sorry
16:58 cait1          I am looking at this blocker but
16:58 cait1          bug
16:59 cait1          and was wondering if someone could teach me how to build packages
16:59 cait1          but then I found the wiki page about "the easy way to do it" and I am fighting with debian now
16:59 drojf          i did it the complicated way according to eythian. i have not tried the other
16:59 jcamins_away   I think the "easy" wasy is more difficult, according to eythian
16:59 drojf          yes the easy way is the complicated one, he said
16:59 * jcamins_away will help if/when he finds his bonefolder.
17:00 drojf          works for me though. what is your problem with it?
17:00 cait1          just getting started
17:00 cait1          and my problem is stupid
17:00 cait1          how do you run something as root with debian?
17:01 wajasu         sudo -u root :)
17:02 cait1          I am still doing it wrong
17:02 drojf          this is the easier way according to eythian btw http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages
17:02 drojf          what are you trying to do?
17:02 cait1          drojf: but he doesn#t tell you what to install there
17:02 cait1          at all
17:02 cait1          so I think I will stick to the other guide for now
17:02 cait1          drojf: install guest additions
17:03 cait1          in my virtual box I want to use for the packaging
17:03 drojf          oh. what do you need those for?
17:03 cait1          it does better integration... I was curious
17:03 jcamins_away   I don't think you need guest additions.
17:03 cait1          no I don't really need them
17:03 cait1          but I wanted them
17:03 cait1          and it's kidn of frustrating that I am too stupid to figure out the right command
17:03 drojf          i think i did not install them because it did not work as the internet said it should
17:03 jcamins_away   Why?
17:04 jcamins_away   I mean, you're never going to be using X under pbuilder.
17:04 cait1          no
17:04 cait1          but I might be using it for something else
17:04 jcamins_away   pbuilder?
17:04 wahanui        hmmm... pbuilder is pretty cool
17:04 cait1          and I think in general knowing how 'sudo' works in debian would be a good thing
17:04 jcamins_away   Agreed, but I think I don't understand what you're trying to do.
17:05 cait1          oh I do understan it
17:05 cait1          the packaging thing and ym attempt to install guest additions are totally unrelated
17:05 drojf          if you are trying to do this http://virtualboxes.org/doc/installing-guest-additions-on-debian/
17:05 jcamins_away   Ohhh.
17:05 drojf          you might just do 'su' and become root
17:05 * jcamins_away found the bonefolder, by the way.
17:05 jcamins_away   Use su - not su
17:06 wajasu         be sure to create a big sized VM.  because i think when you build a package, a chroot based install of debian is created and things are compiled within that.
17:06 wajasu         my bad
17:06 cait1          never mind
17:06 wahanui        Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
17:06 cait1          i figured it out
17:06 cait1          what do you need the bonefolder for?
17:06 drojf          oh. yes. the standard 8gb were not enough in my vm (with koha installed also)
17:06 cait1          don#t say folding bones :)
17:06 drojf          i made a 12gb for the packaging
17:06 jcamins_away   Folding stationery.
17:07 cait1          hm I only got 8 or 10 I think
17:07 * cait1        checks
17:08 cait1          10
17:08 cait1          is this ok? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way
17:09 jcamins_away   That's how I do it.
17:09 drojf          cait1: what do you mean by "ok"? i did it like that and it works
17:09 cait1          that's perfect hten
17:09 drojf          if you do not install koha on the vm i suppose 10gb will be enough
17:10 drojf          there is one thing not in the wiki
17:10 cait1          hm so how do I test it if i don't install it..
17:10 cait1          guess i will figure it out one step at a time
17:10 jcamins        Could someone please test updatedatabase under latest master?
17:10 cait1          oh right
17:10 cait1          i forgot about that
17:10 jcamins        I just want to know if runs.
17:10 cait1          drojf will do it for you
17:10 drojf          i use one vm to build packages. to test i just spawn a copy of pure debian, try and throw it away afterwards
17:10 cait1          :P
17:11 cait1          drojf: hmm
17:11 cait1          I will ask you about that later i guess :)
17:11 drojf          so i am sure there is no debris ob older installs
17:11 drojf          of
17:12 drojf          cait: you have to log into the pbuilder thing and add the koha repo into /etc/apt/sources.list. rangi told me how, mom
17:13 drojf          when you have installed the pbuild stuff, do 'sudo pbuilder --login --save-after-login', add the repo and do an apt-get update
17:13 drojf          jcamins: just run the updatedatabase.pl?
17:13 jcamins        drojf: after pulling master, yes.
17:13 cait1          hm
17:14 cait1          i thought I would be buliding the packages from the repo?
17:14 jcamins        Add the apt repo.
17:14 cait1          drojf: you know that you should add that to the wiki, right?
17:14 jcamins        You'll be building packages from the git repo outside of pbuilder.
17:14 drojf          cait1: i added it to mine :P
17:15 cait1          so the poor qam gets a fair chance ;)
17:15 cait1          jcamins: so are you saying I hsould do what drojf said or follow the guide?
17:15 jcamins        cait1: you should do what drojf said.
17:15 cait1          thx for clarifying
17:15 jcamins        I was trying to disambiguate "repo."
17:15 jcamins        Sorry, I'm writing 22 holiday cards.
17:16 cait1          moderate
17:17 drojf          Server information             Koha version:
17:17 drojf          seems like that worked
17:17 jcamins        drojf: okay, could you please run `prove t/db_dependent/Koha_borrower_modifications.t`?
17:18 jcamins        So far it has worked on every system other than jenkins.
17:19 drojf          t/db_dependent/Koha_borrower_modifications.t .. ok
17:19 drojf          All tests successful.
17:19 drojf          Files=1, Tests=14,  1 wallclock secs ( 0.03 usr  0.02 sys +  0.90 cusr  0.08 csys =  1.03 CPU)
17:19 drojf          Result: PASS
17:19 jcamins        Cool, thanks.
17:19 cait1          drojf++
17:20 cait1          are you doing the lightning talk?
17:20 drojf          ha not really ;)
17:20 cait1          why not?
17:20 drojf          because you are not coming :P
17:23 cait1          you don't need me to do that
17:24 * cait1        is waiting for the git clone now
17:24 cait1          drojf: can you at least add your line to the wiki page? :)
17:24 jcamins        drojf wants it to be a shibboleth by which we can recognize regulars on #koha. :P
17:25 drojf          lol
17:25 drojf          i was about to add the line
17:25 drojf          now i got distracted by irc ;)
17:27 drojf          i never read that page to the end. it does not even have git bz :)
17:27 cait1          waiting for the koha repo to be cloned
17:27 cait1          a 'git' was missing too :)
17:34 drojf          done
17:39 cait1          thank yu
17:39 cait1          @karma drojf
17:39 huginn         cait1: Karma for "drojf" has been increased 53 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 51.
17:39 cait1          hm
17:39 cait1          drojf++
17:42 cait1          I think you can stand one more wthout flying away or something
17:45 drojf          :D
17:46 cait1          I will give you five more for the lightning talk? :D
17:46 drojf          turns out you cannot creata a gpg key via ssh because you have to "use other windows" to create randomness
17:47 jcamins        drojf: you can, but it's a challenge.
17:47 drojf          how? i logged in another time but that doesn't help
17:49 drojf          i should have put some process running in the background before
17:49 jcamins        There's rngd.
17:49 jcamins        But I've never used it.
17:49 jcamins        I don't remember how I did it... I did something with find.
17:50 jcamins        But rngd looks a lot easier.
17:50 jcamins        Maybe apt-get install rng-utils
17:50 drojf          a ping in the background seems not to work ;)
17:51 jcamins        It'll work eventually... it just might take a few years.
17:51 jcamins        A gpg key requires a lot of entropy.
17:52 jcamins        Actually, I should install rngd on my VM, probably.
17:52 drojf          lol @ a few years
17:54 drojf          /etc/init.d/rng-tools: Cannot find a hardware RNG device to use.
17:55 drojf          that probably brings us back to the guest extensions ;)
17:55 jcamins        Hrm.
17:56 drojf          i could create it "here" and transfer. but that would not be any fun
17:56 jcamins        I managed to create four GPG keys.
17:57 drojf          anyway, sushi rice is cooled down. see you later
17:57 jcamins        Ooh, random sushi generators!
17:58 drojf          :)
18:01 cait1          drojf: I have no idea how this worked for you
18:01 cait1          it tells me wget: command not found
18:03 cait1          and something seems to be missing in that line too?
18:03 cait1          oh susi
18:03 cait1          ok.. good excuse to leave me alone in my misery
18:12 cait1          it looks like I am buliding packages now... keep fingers crossed everyone
18:13 * jcamins      crosses his fingers.
18:15 jcamins        I finished writing out the cards for the staff.
18:16 jcamins        Just another 12 to go.
18:16 * jcamins      grumbles.
18:18 cait1          oh it's dun
18:18 cait1          done
18:18 cait1          the staff?
18:18 wahanui        the staff is too big and not finished yet
18:18 jcamins        wahanui: exactly!
18:18 wahanui        jcamins: huh?
18:18 cait1          :)
18:18 cait1          you never talk about all your employes :)
18:18 jcamins        Except I finally finished writing the holiday cards.
18:19 cait1          employees
18:19 jcamins        Building staff.
18:19 cait1          oh
18:20 cait1          arg
18:20 cait1          thre is nothing in the directory it should be
18:20 cait1          hm ok, not so bad, the files are not where they shoudl be, but I foud them
18:20 jcamins        Yeah, I had problems with that too.
18:20 jcamins        The files never go where they're supposed to.
18:20 cait1          hm
18:20 jcamins        So my script just moves them from wherever they end up to where I want them.
18:21 cait1          but I only have 4 files
18:21 cait1          and none ending in .deb
18:21 jcamins        Do a find.
18:21 cait1          um howß
18:21 jcamins        What are the four files?
18:21 cait1          .dsc .build .changes and tar.gz
18:21 jcamins        find / -name "koha-common*.deb"
18:21 jcamins        Hm.
18:22 cait1          koha_3.10.1~git+201212191036.7f98eeb6.tar.gz for example
18:23 cait1          find doesn't find
18:23 jcamins        Hm.
18:23 jcamins        Check if there were any errors in the pbuilder output.
18:23 cait1          nothing I can see
18:24 cait1          Aptitude coulnd't satisfy the build dependencies
18:24 jcamins        Ah-ha.
18:24 cait1          E: pbuilder-satisfyfdepends failed.
18:24 jcamins        Is it complaining about jhash?
18:24 cait1          yeah, found it on second glance
18:24 cait1          hm don't see any about that
18:25 jcamins        Oh.
18:25 jcamins        What does it say it couldn't find?
18:25 cait1          it doesn't look unhappy apart from that
18:25 cait1          le me figure out how to share with this with you
18:27 cait1          maybe it's the package you guessed, but it was on the top
18:27 cait1          http://paste.koha-community.org/316
18:28 jcamins        Okay, I suggest opening debian/control and deleting the libchi-perl and libchi-driver-memcached-perl lines.
18:28 jcamins        Once we figure out how we're going to be making them optional anyway.
18:29 cait1          hm
18:29 cait1          ok
18:29 cait1          in the git repo?
18:29 jcamins        Yup.
18:37 * cait1        tries again
18:47 drojf          ah yes i had problems there too. i installed the jhash somethingsomething from debian, not from the koha repo, then it worked
18:49 cait1          drojf: hm didn't change anything about that
18:49 cait1          will see if it works this time
18:49 cait1          it's sitll running
18:51 drojf          i suppose deleting the dependencies jcamins mentioned solves that too
18:51 cait1          we will see :)
18:51 jcamins        drojf: yeah, since it's not necessary, I see no reason to install it.
18:52 drojf          the files end up in the right directory when everything works out
18:52 cait1          it's done
18:52 drojf          if there is a problem, i have no .deb and the rest isin the wring folder
18:52 drojf          wrong
18:52 cait1          still no .deb file
18:52 cait1          :(
18:52 drojf          are you trying to build master?
18:53 cait1          yeah
18:53 cait1          master plus the patch on a branch I created
18:53 drojf          master+9052 did not work for me. i did not try just master
18:53 drojf          3.10+somepatch and 3.8.7+somnepatch worked though
18:54 cait1          so how did you test 9052?
18:54 cait1          bug 9052
18:54 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages
18:54 cait1          oh
18:54 drojf          i tried 3.10+9052 as i stated in the comment
18:54 cait1          right now i get you
18:54 cait1          will try that
18:57 jcamins        Why doesn't anyone have calling cards anymore?
18:57 jcamins        Calling cards are underappreciated.
18:58 jcamins        One of my clients uses cut up calling cards as dividers in her card catalog.
18:58 drojf          lol
18:58 cait1          calling cards?
18:58 wahanui        calling cards are underappreciated.
18:58 jcamins        Yeah, like...
18:59 * cait1        starts the bulid again
18:59 jcamins        http://artofmanliness.com/2008/09/07/the-gentlemans-guide-to-the-calling-card/
19:01 drojf          people add each other to their phones and facebook accounts on the spot, that might be a reason ;)
19:02 jcamins        drojf: lousy excuse.
19:03 * drojf        tries to build a master package just to see if that works
19:03 cait1          it seems they are not to be used by womn
19:03 jcamins        cait1: not men's calling cards, no.
19:03 cait1          ts.
19:03 jcamins        Women generally had their own calling cards.
19:05 drojf          jcamins: i'd prefer calling cards over facebook adds anytime. also, i don't have a facebook account
19:05 jcamins        drojf: so you have a calling card you use instead?
19:05 drojf          no, but i should have :)
19:06 drojf          i can put my public gpg key on it for people to type it into their computers at home
19:06 drojf          can't build a package from master
19:07 cait1          drojf: I wondered if we should worry about htat
19:07 cait1          maybe we cn just leave it to the RM
19:08 drojf          i kind of asked in the comment but eythian only mentioned the dependency
19:08 jcamins        The major concern is 3.10.
19:08 jcamins        If the patch fixes it with 3.10, that's the important thing.
19:09 drojf          that's what i thought. nobody is going to install a master package. and the problem is not from the patch
19:09 jcamins        Exactly.
19:09 drojf          dpkg-source: info: extracting koha in koha-master+20121215195341.310098fd
19:09 drojf          E: pbuilder: Failed extracting the source
19:09 jcamins        It seems to have something to do with the branch name, actually... if I rename the branch something else, it works.
19:10 drojf          ah really?
19:10 drojf          that's weird
19:10 jcamins        At least, that's what I found when I tried it the other day.
19:10 jcamins        Very.
19:10 cait1          maybe I should try that when it fails this time
19:10 jcamins        cait1: if it worked on 3.10.x, you can just pass it. :)
19:10 cait1          still waiting for it
19:10 cait1          it#s running tests right now
19:11 drojf          working 3.10 packages undr the christmas tree \o/
19:12 cait1          it#s still... doing things
19:12 cait1          *yawn*
19:12 jcamins        :)
19:12 cait1          and I ate all the espresso chocolate
19:13 jcamins        lol
19:13 jcamins        One note for neighbors.
19:13 drojf          looks like that is working great, with the yawning and all
19:13 jcamins        I've decided to write three now.
19:14 jcamins        I figure at least three of the families here will *not* keep kosher.
19:18 * jcamins      does not have a kosher kitchen.
19:19 cait1          how are the cards and kosher kitchens connected?
19:19 jcamins        The cards come with cookies.
19:19 * cait1        doesn't have a kosher kitchen
19:19 jcamins        Actually, I suppose I could give cards to everyone, just not necessarily cookies.
19:20 jcamins        Right.
19:20 jcamins        Good point.
19:20 jcamins        Five more cards, coming right up.
19:21 cait1          it looks like it's working this time
19:21 cait1          it seems to create a .deb file
19:22 cait1          23 mins now
19:23 cait1          :(
19:23 cait1          done... but no deb file
19:24 cait1          o hno
19:24 cait1          there are
19:24 cait1          they are in the right folder this time!
19:24 jcamins        Yay!
19:25 * cait1        squees in delight
19:25 cait1          ook
19:25 cait1          i can copy the koha-common.deb into anothr vm and use that to install koha?
19:25 drojf          is there some dependency entry missing for String/Random.pm? i had to manually install that on my dev machine and it throws an error not when i try to build master
19:26 jcamins        drojf: it was just added.
19:26 jcamins        drojf: it seemed to me to be reported correctly.
19:26 drojf          cait1: yes. just do dpkg -i your.deb and then apt-get -f install for the dependencies
19:27 drojf          jcamins: as pbuilder gets the other dependencies automatically i assume something is not right
19:27 jcamins        drojf: hmm...
19:28 jcamins        drojf: I think eythian has to regenerate the control file.
19:28 jcamins        Actually, I think there's a patch for master that's been languishing for months.
19:28 cait1          do I ned any of the other files?
19:28 jcamins        cait1: nope, just the koha-common.deb.
19:29 drojf          cait1: you get them automatically when you do apt-get -f install afterwards. and you have to install mysql-server too
19:29 cait1          how do I get them automatically?
19:30 jcamins        `sudo apt-get -f install`
19:30 jcamins        Three of seven.
19:31 jcamins        I'm hungry.
19:31 jcamins        Proably because I've been writing holiday cards for...
19:31 jcamins        three hours.
19:31 drojf          eat a bunch of nonkosher cookies with each card
19:31 cait1          ew
19:31 cait1          hehe
19:32 jcamins        lol
19:32 jcamins        I think I'll eat the cookies, and save the card.
19:32 cait1          coookiees....
19:34 jcamins        It'd be nice if I wrote faster.
19:34 jcamins        But not nice enough that I'm ever going to take the time to learn.
19:47 cait1          you could outsource the writing
19:47 cait1          I would do it for cookies :)
19:47 cait1          and you would get a fancy continental hand on your cards :P
19:48 jcamins        lol
19:48 jcamins        Not a bad idea.
19:48 jcamins        Continental handwriting is very much a la mode. :)
19:49 cait1          yay :)
19:52 drojf          lol. i built the master package as 3.33.33 and that worked
19:52 drojf          (from branch 'master'
19:52 drojf          )
19:54 jcamins        drojf: interesting. So it's the version that's the problem?
19:55 drojf          seems like it is. i try it as master again now to make sure it was not the missing dependency (i added that to the control file). i doubt it has anything to do with it because it we did not have it when i tried it the last time
19:55 jcamins        That's... weird.
19:55 * cait1        lost her koha-common.deb file
19:55 cait1          *sigh*
19:56 cait1          I tried moving it out of the vm and now it vanished
19:56 cait1          oh good
19:56 cait1          I found it
19:56 jcamins        Oh no!
19:56 jcamins        Oh, yay!
20:02 jcamins        Backporting bug 7067 to 3.8.x.
20:02 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7067 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , allow patron self registration via the opac
20:02 jcamins        Nasty business, that.
20:03 jcamins        It's a rather complex feature.
20:03 cait1          jcamins: why are you doing it?
20:03 jcamins        I'm not.
20:04 jcamins        Someone just reported on the bug that it didn't work.
20:04 cait1          well no wonder it doesn't
20:04 jcamins        I responded that it wasn't intended for backporting, and if you need help with backporting that should be taken to the list and not discussed on bugzilla.
20:05 cait1          ah i see
20:06 cait1          people are weird
20:07 jcamins        Indeed they are.
20:07 jcamins        Two to go.
20:08 cait1          h
20:08 cait1          m
20:08 cait1          it didn't work :(
20:08 cait1          or maybe...
20:09 cait1          yeah.... rtfm
20:09 * cait1        goes to read
20:09 drojf          backporting… "i want the latest features, but please let me use my old version"
20:10 drojf          what is not working cait1?
20:10 cait1          it's ok
20:10 cait1          I did the apt-get install -f now
20:10 cait1          hi druthb :)
20:11 druthb         Hi, cait. :)
20:18 cait1          bah :(
20:18 cait1          can't install it
20:18 cait1          missing dependencies
20:18 jcamins        Which ones?
20:18 wahanui        Which ones are those?
20:19 cait1          http://paste.koha-community.org/317
20:19 * druthb       pokes wahanui with her pointy stick.
20:19 jcamins        Ah, you need to add debian.koha-community.org to your sources.list.
20:19 druthb         wahanui: druthb?
20:19 wahanui        rumour has it druthb is our translation manager for 3.12
20:19 druthb         well, yes.
20:19 druthb         druthb?
20:19 wahanui        Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
20:19 druthb         cait?
20:19 wahanui        i think cait is qam, not your secretary
20:19 druthb         lulz
20:19 druthb         jcamins
20:19 druthb         ?
20:19 druthb         jcamons?
20:20 * druthb       can't type; she has the dumb.
20:20 druthb         jcamins?
20:20 wahanui        i guess jcamins is brilliant
20:20 druthb         well, yes.
20:20 jcamins        lol
20:20 druthb         wahanui: jcamins?
20:20 wahanui        jcamins is probably brilliant
20:20 cait1          jcamins: I figured it out a split second after posting the link :)
20:20 * druthb       whacks wahanui with the stick.
20:20 cait1          too late still.. but maybe progress
20:20 druthb         wahanui: jcamins?
20:20 wahanui        i think jcamins is very, very irascible.
20:20 druthb         :P
20:21 druthb         wahanui: druthb?
20:21 wahanui        you are our translation manager for 3.12
20:21 druthb         wahanui: dpavlin?
20:21 wahanui        Taking over the world is trivial for this one...
20:21 druthb         lulz
20:23 * druthb       thinks.
20:23 druthb         wahanui: kmkale?
20:23 wahanui        I miss kmkale!
20:23 druthb         awr!
20:26 cait1          jcamins: help?
20:26 wahanui        help is at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help.
20:26 cait1          added the repo to the sources list
20:26 cait1          but still got the same
20:26 * druthb       whacks wahanui with the stick again.
20:26 druthb         Shup, wahanui.
20:26 wahanui        druthb: huh?
20:26 jcamins        cait1: did you run apt-get update?
20:26 cait1          no
20:26 cait1          of corse not
20:26 * cait1        has the dumb too
20:27 * druthb       hugs cait1, watching wahanui carefully for more silliness.
20:27 jcamins        anybody?
20:27 wahanui        i think anybody is here
20:27 jcamins        forget anybody
20:27 wahanui        jcamins: I forgot anybody
20:28 druthb         oh, lordy.  I need to refill my box of clues.  Forgot that I need to make up some sort of treat for the English Country dance party tomorrow.  urg.
20:28 druthb         hm.
20:29 cait1          jcamins: it looks like it worked this time
20:29 jcamins        anybody is <reply> The #koha IRC channel is populated by people from many timezones, sometimes even on weekends. However, if no one is here right now and you need help you should take a look at http://koha-community.org/support/
20:29 jcamins        anybody?
20:29 wahanui        The #koha IRC channel is populated by people from many timezones, sometimes even on weekends. However, if no one is here right now and you need help you should take a look at http://koha-community.org/support/
20:29 drojf          cait1: i did a workshop where i explained how that works. you should have come :P
20:30 cait1          drojf: meany
20:30 cait1          can you help me now?
20:30 cait1          for the sake of having working packages?
20:30 drojf          where are you now?
20:31 druthb         drojf:  Don't be mean to cait.    You're hopelessly outnumbered.
20:31 cait1          druthb: I am asking him to help me because I think jcamins might start yellin gat me soon :)
20:31 cait1          drojf: all dependencies hopefully installed
20:31 cait1          packages?
20:31 wahanui        it has been said that packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
20:31 drojf          that is good
20:31 drojf          then install mysql-server
20:32 druthb         jcamins only yells if you send in bad patches.  That seems to be the only thing that makes him irascible.
20:32 jcamins        That and bugzilla abuse.
20:33 druthb         there.  see, cait1?  You're safe.
20:33 cait1          drojf: i am one step ahead - that's done too
20:33 jcamins        How do I address the envelopes for my neighbors?
20:33 jcamins        I don't know their names.
20:34 druthb         "The crazy cat lady in apartment 6b?"
20:34 jcamins        lol
20:34 * druthb       is the crazy cat lady in unit 414.
20:35 druthb         hm.
20:35 druthb         wahanui:  druthb?
20:35 wahanui        you are our translation manager for 3.12
21:00 drojf          jcamins: having one ssh-session build a koha debian package and another waiting for gpg key generation worked
21:01 jcamins        Yay!
21:06 cait1          jcamins: I am missing the little cart picture
21:06 cait1          not sure why, I will take another look tomorrow
21:06 jcamins        I don't think that has anything to do with the patch.
21:07 jcamins        But it's worth checking by installing 3.10 without the patch.
21:07 * druthb       yawns and stretches.
21:07 druthb         gonna go get prettied up for dancing tonight.  :)   see y'all soon.
21:08 cait1          jcamins: maybe, but not tonight
21:08 drojf          cait1: i have the cart in 3.10
21:08 drojf          do you want a screenshot of 3.10 without 9052?
21:08 cait1          drojf: without patch?
21:08 drojf          yes
21:08 cait1          yes please
21:08 jcamins        drojf: what about with patch?
21:08 cait1          overall it looks good, I am missing the gradient in the blue background and the little icons
21:08 drojf          its with 9287 but that should not matter for the screenshot
21:08 cait1          and looking at it in iceweasel
21:08 cait1          installing chromium now
21:09 drojf          jcamins: will do later. i already repurposed the vm
21:09 drojf          i'll install it again
21:09 cait1          oh
21:09 cait1          ok
21:09 cait1          it's an iceweasel proble
21:09 cait1          m
21:10 jcamins        Yay!
21:10 cait1          it's all good in chromium
21:10 jcamins        So A) the patch works and B) you have a bug to file. :P
21:10 cait1          drojf: without patch it should be obviously broken, right?
21:10 jcamins        Exciting news! :)
21:10 drojf          it works fine in iceweasel here…
21:10 cait1          jcamins: iceweasel seems to be based on a  very old version of firefox
21:10 jcamins        cait1: oh yes. All the fonts will be wrong.
21:10 cait1          so probably not worth thetrouble
21:11 cait1          cool
21:11 cait1          going to pass qa
21:11 cait1          well that was hard.
21:11 jcamins        But you did it!
21:12 jcamins        And it will be easier next time.
21:12 * jcamins      goes to find out which doorman is on duty.
21:13 drojf          [off] http://abunchofthings.net/koha/3.10.png
21:13 cait1          yeah, that looks pretty horrible
21:13 drojf          cait1: i only use iceweasel and it works finde
21:13 drojf          fine
21:13 drojf          maybe try ctrl+f5 to reload?
21:13 cait1          did
21:13 drojf          weird
21:14 drojf          is firebug reporting missing files? for your cart?
21:14 cait1          what's your version?
21:14 cait1          3.5.16
21:15 cait1          I can't instal firebug
21:16 drojf          3.5.16?? of iceaweasel?
21:16 cait1          yeah
21:16 cait1          that's pretty old I guess?
21:16 drojf          10.0.11
21:16 cait1          see
21:16 cait1          but why do I have such an ol version
21:16 drojf          what os?
21:16 drojf          debian?
21:16 wahanui        debian is probably what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that
21:17 cait1          i tink it doesn't like the sprites
21:17 cait1          the css is there
21:17 drojf          squeeze-backports might help
21:17 cait1          debian yes
21:17 drojf          yes that may certainly be the problem then
21:17 cait1          so i think it can be ignored
21:17 drojf          alright then :)
21:18 drojf          debian squeeze?
21:18 wahanui        debian squeeze is recommended for koha?
21:18 drojf          you might want to try adding
21:18 drojf          deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main contrib non-free
21:18 drojf          deb-src http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main contrib non-free
21:19 drojf          i guess that is where the newer iceweasel comes from
21:19 cait1          going to shut down this vm now :) but i will keep it in mind
21:21 drojf          @later tell jcamins trying to build a package for version 'fisch' fails, '1fisch' builds 3.8.0. something is really fishy about that build script
21:21 huginn         drojf: The operation succeeded.
21:22 drojf          @later tell jcamins or rather, it names the package 3.8.0. i have not installed it to see what it actually is, i suppose it is master
21:22 huginn         drojf: The operation succeeded.
21:22 cait1          jcamins_away: it's done - not it's your turn
21:23 cait1          drojf++ :)
21:23 drojf          cait1++
21:23 drojf          working 3.10 \o/
21:23 cait1          *blush*
21:23 cait           @karma cait1
21:23 huginn         cait: Karma for "cait1" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3.
21:23 cait           hehe
21:23 drojf          heh
21:25 drojf          write an irc script that calls @karma cait1 and does cait1--, cait++ until karma of cait1 == 0 ;)
21:25 drojf          or fix huginn to connect nicks
21:27 drojf          ah, right, i got my gpg key now, so i can finish the repo business :)
21:28 cait           preparing for the lightning talk? :)
21:46 jcamins_away   Two down, twenty to go.
22:06 jcamins_away   And I just divided 6 more plates.
22:13 drojf          drojf, apt repository owner.
22:13 jcamins_away   Yay!
22:13 drojf          it's amazing what all i can do with that 2€ webspace lol
22:13 jcamins        So, I'm going to have to make more raspberry shortbread bars.
22:13 jcamins        drojf: that's really weird.
22:14 jcamins        Given how tasty they are, I think that's a recipe to copy into my cookbook.
22:15 drojf          don't be shy, name a koha version after them
22:27 jcamins        "I am pleased to announce that Koha preview 3.11.raspberry shortbread bars has been released."
22:30 drojf          \o/
22:32 drojf          [off] take that, liblime enterprise fork 5
22:38 cait           lol
22:48 jcamins        I'm going to run out of three varieties of cookies.
22:57 drojf          cait: i think eythian wants you to do a tarball install too :P
22:58 cait           git worked
22:58 cait           he is being mean
23:01 drojf          i don't even remember how to do a tarball installation
23:01 cait           shouldn't the dev at least think that it works?
23:01 cait           :P
23:01 jcamins        drojf: just choose "standard" when running Makefile.PL
23:03 drojf          it's the tarball installation's turn to be broken now anyway
23:04 cait           jcamins: do you want me to pull back my passed qa?
23:09 jcamins        Nah.
23:09 * cait         is relieved
23:15 drojf          reading the whole ubuntu/tarball wiki entry would take longer than installing and configuring with packages
23:16 jcamins        Yes.
23:16 jcamins        The author ignored my suggestion that we not add more bulk to the parts that people were not getting confused about.
23:23 * drojf        goes to bed
23:23 drojf          good night
23:24 cait           night
23:24 jcamins        cait: drojf going to bed before you?!?
23:27 jcamins        lol
23:27 jcamins        ... and yet drojf is still logged in.
23:30 drojf          i'll stay logged in in case i might be sleep-signoffing or something
23:33 jcamins        lol