Time  Nick         Message
01:26 eythian      anyone have a copy of the group photo from KohaCon in Edinburgh?
01:27 wizzyrea     i am CERTAIN it is on a website somewhere - maybe even koha-community.org
01:27 eythian      ah yep, found it
01:27 wizzyrea     sweet :)
01:27 eythian      wahanui: kohacon
01:27 wahanui      eythian: what?
01:27 eythian      wahanui: kohacon photo
01:27 wahanui      eythian: excuse me?
01:27 eythian      wahanui: kohacon photo is http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/7162934703/
01:27 wahanui      OK, eythian.
01:29 jcamins_away wizzyrea++
01:45 wizzyrea     what'd I do
01:45 wizzyrea     >.>
01:45 wizzyrea     <.<
01:45 jcamins      The patch.
01:45 wahanui      rumour has it the patch is pretty old now, good luck
01:45 wizzyrea     OH
01:45 wizzyrea     well yes :)
01:45 wizzyrea     i'm still sorting out the last part of that.
01:45 wizzyrea     (barcode)
01:46 wizzyrea     because that still submits the form wrongly
01:46 wizzyrea     but whatever.
02:42 jcamins      Awesome!
02:42 jcamins      When I intentionally misconfigure QP, I get lousy search results, but no horrible error messages.
02:56 jcamins      Uploaded.
03:02 jcamins      Okay, folks. Come and get it while it's hot!
03:02 jcamins      QueryParser!
03:02 jcamins      Bug 9239!
03:02 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries
03:03 wizzyrea     ooo!
03:04 jcamins      Try it, you'll like it!
03:04 jcamins      And while you're at it, sign off on bug 9183.
03:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9183 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , C4::Search should only have one ZOOM event loop
03:04 jcamins      Oh, it's already signed off.
03:08 * wizzyrea   makes a mad face at bugzilla
03:56 mtj          hey peepz, anyone about for a random foreign-key brain-slap… ?
03:57 eythian      wahanui: ask
03:57 wahanui      Don't ask to ask, just ask.
03:57 mtj          i think ive found the cause of this bug 8471
03:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8471 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , loading an sql file into mysql, often fails when loading the 'letter' table
03:57 eythian      :)
03:57 eythian      oh hey, that'd be good.
03:57 eythian      that one always bugs me
03:58 mtj          it's poss. a glitchy fk constraint in mysql-struct.sql
03:58 mtj          heres a fix -> http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=head-dev/.git;a=blobdiff;f=installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql;h=05ca08b5dbec12a9882e2b86730868a5f9b01ba6;hp=8648e189461830e63a2b7f002e65122e282ebcdb;hb=9bce09b0db3bcc25507bbd02f8079b5845260278;hpb=bd5bb8549bc962e00206b14aa417b89cb0adac03
03:59 mtj          the 'branchcode' column refered too, in the FK constraint does not exist?
04:00 mtj          so, thats my hunch… i was curious on someone elses opinionion
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04:03 mtj          so, if you load /installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql into a db, then a koha.sql - you get that error
04:03 eythian      I'm surprised it lets the FK be created in the first place then
04:03 mtj          $ mysql koha < /installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql
04:03 eythian      ah
04:03 eythian      yeah, that sounds quite plausible
04:03 mtj          $ mysql koha < ./my-koha.sql
04:03 mtj          ERROR 1005 (HY000) at line 3237: Can't create table 'koha.letter' (errno: 150)
04:04 mtj          but, after applying the patch… no error
04:04 eythian      tricky
04:04 eythian      when you submit a patch, document the hell out of it giving examples of error messages. I've spent a bit of time googling that error to figure it out without success.
04:04 wajasu       http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/message_transports.html
04:06 mtj          wajasu, aaah perfect :)
04:07 mtj          the 'letter' table contains no 'branchcode' column, so its a glitchy FK
04:08 mtj          eythian, hell yeah, ive spent a buncha time too :/
04:08 eythian      it does contain the branchcode column in the schema link
04:09 wajasu       note: Generated by SchemaSpy on Fri Sep 28 09:20 NZST 2012
04:09 wajasu       so maybe we should ask rangi to regenerate it since the release.
04:10 mtj          i wonder if we (aka rangi) could get SchemaSpy to do a nightly cron refresh?
04:11 mtj          does the refresh take so long, that its a no-go?
04:12 eythian      dunno, not particularly wrong as far as I know
04:12 eythian      *long
04:12 wajasu       i've run it and it churns for about 10 to 20 minutes i recall.
04:12 mtj          re: 8471, i guess i might need to look for other references to letter.branchcode
04:13 mtj          is the fix... correct the FK , or add the missing 'branchcode' column?!
04:15 mtj          rangi, what you think? re: SchemaSpy nighly cron
04:16 wajasu       if the branchcode was recently removed, maybe the schemspy is out of date.  i would look at the git history to see who might have changed the structure/contstraint.
04:18 mtj          bah, letter.branchcode *does* exist after all
04:18 mtj          http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/letter.html
04:19 eythian      it's not a new bug, it's been there for a long time
04:21 mtj          yeah, it has indeed :/
04:22 wajasu       well, it seems as if letters are sent cross-branch, where it might have been per-branch before?
04:23 mtj          its such a random bug to reproduce even
04:24 mtj          'show engine innodb status' seems to show that its the 'message_transports_ibfk_3' constraint, that its barfing on
04:27 wajasu       if they removed the constraint for the branchcode, chances are you will get the error when just  module and code are specified.
04:27 wajasu       for a DB that has the prior dataset.
04:28 wajasu       i suspect the branchcode is to track from which branch the letter  was sent,
04:29 wajasu       and there are probably notices that get sent with no specfic branchcode (needed for some reason)
04:34 mtj          hmm, i think the problem for me is that, im attempting to load an old 3.6 db, after a new 3.8 or master db
04:38 mtj          ok, wow… ^^ that theory seems to be correct! :)
04:40 mtj          attempting to load in an old koha-3.6 db, after a koha-3.8 db, causes the 'Can't create table 'koha.letter' error
04:41 eythian      hmm OK. maybe that's why I haven't noticed it for a while. Though I haven't been doing a lot of database loading anyway
04:41 mtj          … because the existing koha-3.8 db has some constraints/FKs that dont exist in the older 3.6 db
04:42 mtj          so, good news is - that seems to be the cause
04:42 eythian      I have a 'delete everything' script that makes sure everything has been deleted that I tend to use.
04:42 mtj          bad news is… how to fix that?
04:42 mtj          the 'drop db koha; create db koha' seems to be the quick-fix
04:43 wajasu       http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=a9ded4fa008668df8c485fbbc76efa3cc9cc00d7
04:46 wajasu       maybe if your db has one branch, you can update the table with its branchcode, then dump it and load it.
04:48 mtj          its also bizare that the 'message_transports_ibfk_3' constraint is the *only* one that fails
04:48 mtj          if you delete it from the .sql file, the load is successful
04:48 wajasu       is the branchcode nullable in your older version?
04:49 Manderson    Hey, so I have a modified version of koha-zebra-ctl.sh that works with Redhat. I am making reference to it in my wiki page, but not quite sure that the wiki is the best place for it. Any ideas where I should put this?
04:51 mtj          Manderson, the wiki is probably a good start - but consider logging a bug, and sending it as a patch?
04:52 mtj          wajasu, letter.branchcode doesnt exist in my old (3.6.4) db
04:52 wajasu       i know what you need to do.
04:53 wajasu       if your old db is a scrtach owrk db, try to alter the table to add branchcode     http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a9ded4fa008668df8c485fbbc76efa3cc9cc00d7#patch18
04:54 wajasu       and that update all the rows with your branchcode.   then dump the table.
04:54 wajasu       then load it in the new db.
04:55 mtj          wajasu, what will that prove?
04:56 wajasu       oh yeah.  you aren't trying to migrate.
04:57 wajasu       you are trying to fix the bug.
04:58 wajasu       well, then write a migration script, to do just that (fine for one branch case), or write instructions for one who migrates and attach it to the bug.
04:59 wajasu       i guess no update script was done.
05:00 mtj          hmm, you are missing the problem
05:00 wajasu       yeah.
05:01 mtj          the problem is… loading a sql file into mysql sometime fails
05:01 mtj          $ mysql koha < ./my_koha.sql
05:02 wajasu       i suspect it fails because the old version letters table data doesn't have any branchcode column at all.  so the contraint fails.
05:02 mtj          yep, something like that :)
05:03 eythian      tbh, it'll only be a problem while we're going back and forth across a particular version boundry, eventually it should become less of an issue as we have fewer 3.6 installations to deal with
05:03 wajasu       so we have to manufacture the column.
05:04 mtj          i would have thought mysql would have 'disabled' those FK checks, when loading a dumped .sql file
05:04 eythian      is there an instruction for that in the dump?
05:04 mtj          SET foreign_key_checks = 0;    SET foreign_key_checks = 1; etc...
05:05 eythian      but is it in there?
05:05 wajasu       the issue i see is that 3.6 and prior does support multiple branches.  so only if they ran as one branch could we populate the column based on that.
05:05 mtj          yeah, theres usually a bunch of those instructions, at the top/bottom of a dumped .sql file
05:06 eythian      /*!40014 SET @OLD_FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=@@FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS, FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=0 */;
05:07 eythian      though I don't know if that's a real comment or some strange mysql thing
05:08 wajasu       you might get away with suspending checks, if we don't edit the record.   but you could even check to see if upon an edit/save, that we supply the branchcode.
05:08 wajasu       i've only seen letters as output  (read for mail, etc).
05:09 eythian      editing records isn't an issue if you're trying to replace it
05:09 wajasu       are there the generated letters? or templates?
05:09 eythian      it doesn't matter
05:09 wajasu       ok
05:09 eythian      the problem is you want to delete the table and recreate it and you can't
05:10 mtj          eythian, ^^ yep - ive got those 'SET @OLD_FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS' lines in my files, too
05:15 mtj          adding the following to the start of the .sql , fixes the load error
05:15 mtj          DROP database IF EXISTS `head`;
05:15 mtj          create database `head`;
05:15 mtj          use `head`;
05:15 wajasu       i recently dumped, a 3.0x koha into 3.10 and didn't get any complaints. my branchcodes are not set.
05:16 mtj          wajasu, the problem seems to be loading an older version, after an newer version
05:16 eythian      in particular, loading over the top of an existing one
05:16 mtj          so, load a 3.10, then load your 3.0...
05:16 wajasu       ahh
05:16 eythian      mtj: of course those statements will fix it, they delete everything.
05:16 eythian      but we can't have that
05:17 mtj          yeah, i kinda stated the obvious
05:18 wajasu       copy the newer into a temp table, load the older, then add the newer.  maybe?
05:18 mtj          anyhoo, as eythian  said, its now a knownish problem, with a workaround
05:19 mtj          i though i was going to nail that bug!, but … not to be :)
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05:23 eythian      wajasu: you don't have control over anything like that, you're loading a database dump
05:35 mtj          wajasu, fyi: heres my comment on the bug -> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8471#c2
05:35 huginn       04Bug 8471: trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , loading an sql file into mysql, often fails when loading the 'letter' table
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07:10 rangi        http://instagram.com/p/TIKH3posO3/ thats about 100m from my house
07:11 cait         oooh
07:11 cait         nice
07:14 alex_a_      bonjour cait
07:14 alex_a_      bonjour rangi
07:14 rangi        hi alex_a_
07:16 cait         hi alex_a_
07:41 reiveune     hello
07:41 wahanui      what's up, reiveune
08:08 rangi        hi reiveune
08:08 reiveune     hi rangi
08:13 gaetan_B     hello
08:17 kf           good morning #koha
08:19 clrh         helo
08:21 kf           hi clrh
08:22 rangi        hi kf, gaetan_B and clrh
08:22 clrh         hello kf and rangi
08:22 clrh         :)
08:22 kf           :)
08:22 kf           konstanz is covered in snow, how is the weather in marseille?
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08:51 kf           @wunder marseille
08:51 huginn       kf: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 0.0°C (9:30 AM CET on December 12, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
08:51 rangi        @wunder nzwn
08:51 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (9:00 PM NZDT on December 12, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
08:51 rangi        its too hot
08:52 rangi        18 is yuck for sleeping
08:55 magnuse      @wunder boo
08:55 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (9:20 AM CET on December 12, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
08:55 magnuse      @wunder arguineguin
08:55 huginn       magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
08:55 magnuse      @wunder las palmas
08:55 huginn       magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
08:55 magnuse      @wunder las palmas, spain
08:55 huginn       magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
08:55 magnuse      pft
08:56 * magnuse    travels south today
08:56 rangi        cool
08:56 rangi        for work?
09:01 rangi        i forgot how pretty the rijksmuseum catalogue is
09:01 rangi        http://library.rijksmuseum.nl/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=fish
09:01 rangi        marcelr++
09:03 magnuse      [off] rangi: nope, 1 week holiday in the canary islands :-)
09:03 magnuse      wow, that is an awesome opac!
09:04 kf           totally is
09:04 kf           I love the itemtype selected on advanced search
09:04 kf           marcelr++
09:05 kf           magnuse: have a good holiday
09:05 magnuse      marcelr++
09:05 magnuse      kf: thanks
09:06 rangi        magnuse: yay have fun!
09:06 magnuse      rangi: thanks!
09:06 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @ranginui: "i forgot how pretty the rijksmuseum library catalogue is http://t.co/P6YH0rzr #kohails"
09:09 drojf        @wunder berlin, germany
09:09 huginn       drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -2.6°C (9:43 AM CET on December 12, 2012). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
09:10 kf           morning drojf
09:10 rangi        hi drojf
09:10 drojf        morning kf and rangi :)
09:11 drojf        wish i could work from bed
09:12 drojf        kf: have you tried bug 4906?
09:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Problem with grace period calculation and fine intervals >1
09:12 drojf        or looked at it, regarding paul_p's comment
09:13 drojf        i gave a version of 3.8.7+4906 to wildau for testing
09:14 kf           drojf: not yet, requires some good test cases I think
09:14 kf           oh interesting
09:14 wahanui      i think interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
09:15 kf           I had chatted with khall about it before he send in the patch
09:15 kf           but then I got covered with lots of other things :(
09:15 kf           not sure the description on the patch is accurate - I would like to test and see how it works
09:15 kf           we had talked about the formula and it might work for our problem, just not sure
09:17 drojf        i don't have any experience with fines because we don't have any, but the bug sounds like a problem wildau was having. i suppose they will see if it fixes it for them
09:18 kf           bit hard to test in production maybe... well a good test, but hard if something is still off
09:18 kf           and it might work for one confguration and not for another
09:19 drojf        that is also where the question about database numbering came from. for the test version i just used the next db revision number now, but i don't know if that is a good idea for a production system
09:21 kf           you will hae to be careful on update
09:21 kf           resetting the version by 1 before you run it - in the database
09:21 kf           I think
09:22 drojf        ah yes, that sounds like a good idea
09:22 drojf        isn't there even a syspref with the number? i thought there was but could not find it last night
09:23 kf           local use tab :)
09:23 drojf        ah, the one i never look at :) thanks
09:23 kf           yeah, I recently 'rediscovered' it
09:25 drojf        but that number is not what it should be for that instance, it's just 3.0807000
09:26 kf           oh?
09:26 kf           and what does about say?
09:27 kf           ah
09:27 drojf        the same, i was wondering about that last night
09:27 kf           maybe they didn't apply it
09:27 kf           or reset it
09:27 drojf        hm. i only checked if the syspref is there
09:28 drojf        maybe the db stuff isn't ^^
09:28 kf           it's not bad actually
09:28 kf           I think if you turn it on/off the pref might get created
09:37 drojf        i will find about that later :)
09:37 drojf        find out
09:38 kf           if you have access to reports you can check
09:44 drojf        it's not in my updatedatabase file. i guess something went wrong there
09:45 drojf        ah, it is, wrong ssh session, wrong koha ;)
09:49 kf           lol
09:50 drojf        did it manually and got a duplicate entry error for the grace syspref. i suppose that means you were right about the db entry getting created when changing the pref
10:07 vfernandes   hi :)
10:07 kf           drojf: yay ;)
10:08 kf           hi vfernandes
10:08 vfernandes   koha translate interface is damn slow :/
10:08 drojf        vfernandes: it's being worked on
10:08 kf           vfernandes: it will move to a new server soon
10:11 vfernandes   humm nice :)
10:35 kf           hm
10:35 kf           can't log into the koha wiki...
10:35 kf           is it me or something with the wiki?
10:54 * kf         gives up
10:58 magnuse      kf: works for me
10:59 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @clrh: "For 3.10, @biblibre signed off 46% of #kohails patches with 13 people involved http://t.co/WJBeSofg"
11:01 clrh         tweetbot`: just repeat #kohails hashtag ?
11:03 drojf        clrh: that's what i think
11:03 drojf        try it ;)
11:22 kf           gmcharlt: around?
11:24 kf           @later tell gmcharlt I got problems logging into the wiki - I tried sending myself a new password, but that doesn't work too - maybe you can use some magic?
11:24 huginn       kf: The operation succeeded.
11:24 kf           :(
12:18 magnuse      have fun, #koha!
12:33 jcamins      vfernandes: around?
12:40 jcamins      Hmmm...
12:40 jcamins      Could someone please try deleting an authorized value?
12:49 jcamins      Also, could someone please confirm that it is possible to check out books with the web-based SCO still?
12:51 tcohen       mornin #koha
12:52 jcamins      paul_p: does the web-based SCO work for you under Plack?
12:53 jcamins      Ah-ha.
12:53 jcamins      The selfcheck must have superlibrarian privileges.
12:54 paul_p       jcamins well, I tested with an account with superlibrarian privileges, it's true (and with plack)
12:54 * paul_p     at a meeting with our greek partners
13:08 * jcamins    stops reviewing patches for pushing.
13:10 tcohen       why jcamins? whhhhhhyyyyy?
13:10 kf           jcamins: because he has a life outside koha... maybe
13:10 kf           and that was for tcohen :P
13:11 tcohen       :-P
13:13 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9101: Add REPORT_GROUP to sample data <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e437138a33d115dd43bc670897d7279337e9b16> / Bug 9033: Wide character error in runreport.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18c2962f7e17dc3ed9db0a70137a58fa58290b1c> / Bug 9033 - Wide character error in runreport.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4294869
13:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #975 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
13:15 jcamins      tcohen: because I am easily annoyed in the morning, and only one patch out of the five I reviewed was not dubious.
13:16 tcohen       ouch
13:16 kf           you pushed my patch? :P
13:16 * tcohen     thinks we need to feed the RM with super-charged coffee in the morning
13:17 kf           I think feeding him with well tested patches that are not dubious could work too :)
13:17 jcamins      kf: yes, that's the only one.
13:17 jcamins      Well, no, I also pushed bug 9033, but that patch didn't fix the problem it purported to, it just made it less broken.
13:17 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9033 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Wide character error in runreport.pl
13:19 H            Hey all
13:19 kf           bug 9144
13:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9144 trivial, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Passed QA , bulkmarcimport.pl - Problem identifying errors
13:20 tcohen       H: bug 9267
13:20 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9267 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Ubuntu 12.04 install docs broken
13:20 H            is that me ? ;)
13:21 H            ah indeed
13:21 H            reeding it
13:25 H            if my library is online i post the url ... still have to do the webinstall and the data import (at the moment i cant at the server ip adres in my browser did mail the network people here (apache is installed (hopefully i did it correct)))
13:28 oleonard     Hi #koha
13:29 H            wave
13:29 * jcamins    grumbles.
13:29 jcamins      jcamins?
13:29 wahanui      i guess jcamins is brilliant
13:29 jcamins      Huh?
13:29 jcamins      jcamins?
13:29 wahanui      you are brilliant
13:29 jcamins      jcamins?
13:29 wahanui      well, jcamins is brilliant
13:29 jcamins      jcamins?
13:29 wahanui      you are very, very irascible.
13:29 jcamins      There we go.
13:30 kf           why don't we have a timestamp in deleteditems? :(
13:30 oleonard     So, has anyone ever seen an authorized value image appear in the OPAC search results? And I'm not talking about item type images.
13:30 oleonard     git blame says this code is from 2008, and I don't remember ever seeing it in action.
13:31 jcamins      Ooh! A puzzle!
13:32 jcamins      oleonard: I have not, if we're not talking about item types.
13:33 kf           oleonard: never tried it
13:33 jcamins      Could someone please try deleting an authorized value, while we're on the subject?
13:34 oleonard     Sure
13:34 kf           oleonard++
13:34 jcamins      Thanks.
13:35 oleonard     Seems to work fine jcamins
13:35 jcamins      Hm.
13:35 jcamins      Guess it's a combination of DEBUG and/or Plack.
13:44 jcamins      Okay, patched.
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13:57 francharb    hi
14:00 oleonard     SMU++ # I'm glad they're back with real Koha
14:00 khall        hey all, does anyone know if it's possible to search MARC leader information via zebra?
14:01 jcamins      khall: I actually do not.
14:01 kf           yes
14:01 kf           bib-level is an example
14:01 kf           if I am not mistaken totally
14:02 kf           hm I might be, always confuse all the controlfields :(
14:02 khall        indeed, bib level is 07 of the leader!
14:02 kf           oh thx
14:02 kf           I got worreid :)
14:02 khall        thanks! I'll go poke around the zebra configuration files and see what I find
14:03 kf           oleonard: do you know when they switched?
14:03 oleonard     it wasn't too long ago I think
14:03 jcamins      Yeah, you just put it in the <marc:record> template.
14:04 kf           jcamins: for dom?
14:05 jcamins      Right.
14:05 kf           really have to look at those configuration files sometime :)
14:05 kf           they sound like fun
14:05 jcamins      http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/record-model-domxml-conf.html
14:05 jcamins      I like the last example in 3.3.
14:05 oleonard     kf: http://bywatersolutions.com/2012/11/27/samuel-merritt-university-goes-live-on-koha-with-bywater-solutions/
14:05 drojf        that are not the grs-1 guts of a zebra for sure ;)
14:06 jcamins      You may find it somewhat less hysterically funny than I do, of course.
14:06 khall        kf: where would one search on bib-level? I don't see that in the advanced search
14:06 kf           ... which has      opportunities for great power and wizardry as well as grande      disaster.
14:06 jcamins      khall: it's used in analytic tracings.
14:06 kf           khall: it has not been implemented there yet... see
14:06 khall        gotcha, over my head
14:07 kf           [off] http://hfjs.bsz-bw.de for some jquery wizardry
14:07 * khall      needs to get his mls
14:07 kf           khall: you can limit to serials using it
14:07 kf           look at the advanced search at the link :)
14:07 druthb       @quote add  kf: ... which has opportunities for great power and wizardry as well as grande disaster.
14:07 huginn       druthb: The operation succeeded.  Quote #223 added.
14:07 kf           lol
14:07 kf           I quoted the zebra documentation jcamins pointed to
14:08 kf           I am not poetic like that :)
14:17 vfernandes   sorry jcamins_away, I was out for lunch
14:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #975: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/975/
14:23 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 9033 - Wide character error in runreport.pl
14:23 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 9033: Wide character error in runreport.pl
14:23 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9101: Add REPORT_GROUP to sample data
14:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9033 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Wide character error in runreport.pl
14:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9101 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add REPORT_GROUP to authorised values sample data
14:43 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @emilyalling: "Many thanks! @ByWaterSolution: "Samuel Merritt University Sponsors Hourly Loans and Course Reserves for Koha http://t.co/mlC8wb5p #kohails""
14:44 oleonard     Well what do you know, the authorised value display in OPAC results worked a long time ago
15:07 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Samuel Merritt University Sponsors Hourly Loans and Course Reserves for Koha http://t.co/oDnrvqK2"
15:13 drojf        seeing the sponsoring information, does hourly loans work with fines nowadays?
15:13 kf           I think the work around is probably to have the fine script running often
15:13 kf           ?
15:17 libsysguy    drojf it really depends on the day of the week
15:17 libsysguy    it seems like its broken more than its working
15:18 drojf        i'm so glad we don't have fines :P
15:21 * oleonard   too
15:26 kf           we have fines, but not hourly
15:26 kf           but fine syntax in notices is broken too... *sigh*
15:29 kf           gmcharlt?
15:29 wahanui      somebody said gmcharlt was an expert in all things library technology.
15:30 gmcharlt     kf: hmm?
15:30 kf           oh you are here
15:30 kf           sec just saving
15:31 kf           I can not log into the wiki any longer
15:31 kf           and have no idea why :(
15:32 kf           it always says wrong passwort, even for the temporary password it send me
15:32 gmcharlt     your account is Kfischer?
15:32 kf           yep
16:18 reiveune     bye
16:21 jcamins      Awww!
16:21 jcamins      My client's little kitten just ran across the room, tripped over the door frame, discover s/he couldn't get any traction on tile, and slid into a heap against a wall.
16:22 druthb       awr!
16:22 jcamins      S/he is now somewhere else complaining loudly.
16:23 jcamins      That time it tripped over the doorframe but recovered enough to not go flying.
16:50 gmcharlt     @later tell cait ok, you should be able to log in now; MediaWiki was hanging on to old cached versions of user objects for some reason
16:50 huginn       gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
17:07 oleonard     I don't think I've ever written so much test plan for a 4-line correction (Bug 9276)
17:07 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9276 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Display of biblio-level authorized values on OPAC search results broken
17:07 oleonard     I didn't set out to correct a feature I didn't know existed and didn't want to use, I was just trying to validate the damn template.
17:09 mib_okkapv   hello
17:09 oleonard     Hi mib_okkapv
17:09 mib_okkapv   I would like to know how to show or hide tags... ? :)
17:09 jcamins      oleonard: it's a cool feature, though!
17:10 jcamins      One which I will make a point of finding a use for so that you can feel your time was well-spent.
17:10 oleonard     mib_okkapv: In what context?
17:12 mib_okkapv   in the cataloguing of create new records :)
17:12 oleonard     mib_okkapv: Check the documentation on editing MARC frameworks
17:12 mib_okkapv   for example I have 50 tags but I would like to use only 30 tags
17:13 jcamins      mib_okkapv: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/catadmin.html#marcbibframeworks
17:13 jcamins      Search for "hidden"
17:13 jcamins      It's about a quarter of the way down the page.
17:13 jcamins      wahanui: fortune?
17:13 wahanui      no idea, jcamins
17:13 jcamins      @fortune
17:13 huginn       jcamins: Your goose is cooked. (Your current chick is burned up too!)
17:14 mib_okkapv   ok thank you I am looking for i cannot use i will ask again thank you
17:14 mib_okkapv   :)
17:22 mib_okkapv   MARC frameworks › BKS framework structure › Tag 001 subfield structure › Edit subfields constraints > Managed in tab >1
17:27 mib_okkapv   is this right?
17:28 jcamins      mib_okkapv: what are you trying to do?
17:28 jcamins      If you want to change what tab the 001 field is displayed in, then yes.
17:28 jcamins      Otherwise, no.
17:29 mib_okkapv   mmmm ok :) but if the 40 field i would like to display? once created in the framework
17:30 mib_okkapv   for example...
17:30 jcamins      Then you change the visibility, as in the manual I sent you a link to.
17:33 mib_okkapv   MARC frameworks › Books, Booklets, Workbooks (BKS) › Modify tag 040 > Authorized value ?
17:34 mib_okkapv   I guess
17:34 jcamins      No, "Hidden"
17:34 jcamins      There's a screenshot in the manual, I think.
17:37 mib_okkapv   BKS framework structure › Tag 038 subfield structure › Edit subfields constraints > Advanced constraints > hidden :)
17:37 jcamins      Exactly.
17:38 mib_okkapv   ahh i got it change the subfield tags to show the fields :)
17:38 mib_okkapv   thankkkkkkkkk youuuuuuuuuuu :)
17:38 jcamins      :)
17:39 mib_okkapv   i am starting learning koha but i dont know where to start i used winisis
17:39 mib_okkapv   the video tutoriales of bywater it is a right place to start?
17:40 oleonard     Yes mib_okkapv, that's a good resource
17:42 mib_okkapv   ok :) besides do you know where is a documentation of the koha structures?
17:42 mib_okkapv   technical information about the ILS?
17:43 jcamins      mib_okkapv: what do you mean?
17:44 * cait       waves
17:44 jcamins      There is not really any overarching "technical guide."
17:44 cait         gmcharlt++
17:44 cait         @later tell gmcharlt - works now :) many thanks!
17:44 huginn       cait: The operation succeeded.
17:45 mib_okkapv   @ i see , books? manuals? tesis?
17:45 huginn       mib_okkapv: I suck
17:46 jcamins      mib_okkapv: the manual you have a link to.
17:46 jcamins      The wiki is full of useful information.
17:46 jcamins      wiki?
17:46 wahanui      wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org
17:46 mib_okkapv   yes i see... :(
17:47 mib_okkapv   well thank you for the time spend :)
17:47 mib_okkapv   I will apreciate it
17:47 jcamins      If you're interested in the database structures, there's a thingy for that.
17:47 jcamins      schema?
17:47 wahanui      well, schema is tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org
17:47 jcamins      (I don't know what to call it)
17:47 jcamins      And, of course, since Koha is open source the best thing you can do if you want to know how it works is look at the code!
17:47 jcamins      git?
17:47 wahanui      well, git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
17:48 mib_okkapv   yes the schema I got it but the information about modules, connections, etc etc
17:48 jcamins      First question?
17:48 wahanui      "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?"
17:49 mib_okkapv   understand how it works at the glance :(
17:50 mib_okkapv   how many kinds of type of archives exists? for example is a goal :)
17:50 jcamins      How what works?
17:50 oleonard     You can't tell at a glace how the whole thing works, there are too many parts
17:51 jcamins      Koha comprises over eight hundred lines of code.
17:51 jcamins      *eight hundred thousand
17:51 mib_okkapv   :(
17:51 jcamins      Eight hundred isn't very many at all.
17:51 mib_okkapv   its is a huge for me
17:51 jcamins      It is capable of running pretty much any type of library, from a personal library with 200 books to a national library with 8 million.
17:52 mib_okkapv   I understand cds/isis structures very well
17:53 jcamins      I think possibly you need to adjust your expectations.
17:53 jcamins      I think I can speak for the original author of Koha when I say that *no one* knows how every part of Koha works perfectly.
17:54 mib_okkapv   mmm I see
17:55 mib_okkapv   but just at glace..
17:55 mib_okkapv   how works the parts
17:55 mib_okkapv   itselfs each parts
17:56 jcamins      I can't answer that question because to me that's like asking "how does Linux work at a glance?"
17:56 mib_okkapv   jajaja yes i understand...
17:57 jcamins      The best answer I could give you for "how does Linux work at a glance?" is "there's a kernel, which is central, and then there are a lot of other things that work together so that you can use your computer."
17:57 jcamins      For Koha, I could say "there's a lot of code that runs on a server, data is stored in a database, searches are done using an external system called Zebra, and the user uses a web browser to manage their library."
17:58 jcamins      But you didn't need me to tell you that, because you already know all these things from reading the "What is Koha?" page on the website.
17:58 mib_okkapv   and the main part of code is perl done
17:58 jcamins      Yes.
17:58 khall        I can't install Koha from master atm, I get this in Step 3: ERROR 1166 (42000) at line 1871: Incorrect column name 'closed '
17:58 jcamins      khall: there's a patch for that which requires sign-off.
17:59 khall        whats the bug #?
17:59 wahanui      i heard the bug # was there
17:59 jcamins      I'm looking now.
17:59 jcamins      Bug 9246.
17:59 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9246 blocker, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Upon running koha installer, mysql "Error 1166 at line 1871: Incorrect column name 'closed" appears and crashes install.
17:59 jcamins      Oh, wait, it's signed off!
17:59 jcamins      QA team! QA 9246!
18:02 cait         remind me in half an hour?
18:02 mib_okkapv   ok thank you @jcamins
18:02 jcamins      Hm. We don't have a reminder feature, do we?
18:02 mib_okkapv   for the time ...........i will be in touch ;)
18:03 rangi        Morning
18:03 wahanui      hmmm... Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
18:05 rambutan     a brief, off-topic note that Ravi Shankar has died...
18:08 jcamins      cait: you are reprieved.
18:27 rangi        @wunder nzwn
18:27 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on December 13, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
18:27 * jcamins    finishes up.
19:35 chris_n      nasty bug
19:38 oleonard     ?
19:56 cait         chris_n: which one are you looking at?
19:57 chris_n      9246
19:57 oleonard     Bug 9246?
19:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9246 blocker, P5 - low, ---, veron, Passed QA , Upon running koha installer, mysql "Error 1166 at line 1871: Incorrect column name 'closed" appears and crashes install.
19:59 wizzyrea     i looked in the manual, but I didn't see a definitive answer - does koha have a mechanism to search "title begins with"
20:00 wizzyrea     i found ti,first-in-subfield=<search>
20:00 wizzyrea     but I can't seem to make it works
20:03 wizzyrea     work*
20:04 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Sales of E-book readers down in 2012 http://t.co/3rqueuuU #kohails"
20:15 jenkins_koha Starting build #31 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:31 jcamins_away wizzyrea: if first-in-subfield doesn't meet your needs, you could try startswithnt.
20:32 wizzyrea     well I couldn't get it to work - maybe I was doing it wrong?
20:32 jcamins      I'm not sure either works.
20:33 wizzyrea     how would you use startswithnt
20:33 wizzyrea     ti,startswithnt=<whatever>
20:34 wizzyrea     oh oh actually - it does work
20:34 wizzyrea     < user error
20:34 wizzyrea     rangi++
20:35 jcamins      Full disclosure: that doesn't actually do what you think it does.
20:35 wizzyrea     well it gets pretty darn close
20:35 jcamins      Yeah, it should be close enough.
20:35 wizzyrea     but, you may explain if you like :)
20:35 oleonard     Yes please
20:36 wizzyrea     for the log it's ccl=ti,first-in-subfield=<whatever>
20:38 jcamins      The problem is that first-in-subfield is mapped internally to first-in-field, which in turn is mapped to wordlist + doesn't have anything preceding it in the field that's being indexed.
20:38 jcamins      So _how_ we add fields to the index impacts what is considered first-in-subfield.
20:39 wizzyrea     so title is probably more or less ok - other fields might not be so ok
20:39 jcamins      Right.
20:39 wizzyrea     like su,first-in-subfield might be confusing
20:39 jcamins      Exactly.
20:39 wizzyrea     (or something)
20:40 jcamins      That's actually the example I was thinking of.
20:40 wizzyrea     right, easy enough to pass on
20:40 wizzyrea     hehe
20:40 wizzyrea     the question was
20:40 wizzyrea     "can I search 'title begins with'"
20:40 wizzyrea     the answer is, apparently, with gymnastics, yes
20:40 jcamins      Then, yes, that should do it.
20:40 wizzyrea     "with gymnastics"
20:40 wizzyrea     :)
20:41 jcamins      Of course, because I live to make things difficult, I should point out that if they use 505 fields extensively, they may get unexpected results.
20:41 jcamins      Ooh!
20:41 jcamins      I know how to fix it.
20:41 jcamins      ccl=Title-cover,first-in-subfield=whatever
20:42 wizzyrea     I would have to ask eythian about the fields this particular library
20:42 oleonard     And how does one perform that search?
20:42 wizzyrea     uses
20:42 wizzyrea     type it into the search box
20:42 wizzyrea     :)
20:42 wizzyrea     (all of it)
20:43 oleonard     Wow, closest thing to a browse search I've ever seen in Koha
20:44 rangi        theres lots we can do with zebra, its just C4::Search won't let us .. so yay for jcamins rewrite!
20:44 jcamins      On the subject of which, bug 9239 isn't ready for sign off, but it *is* ready for testing!
20:44 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries
20:46 wizzyrea     YAY for the rewrite!
20:47 jcamins      I am ten chapters into the play-by-play recounting of the Battle of Waterloo.
20:47 oleonard     It's a little early to be trying to fall asleep jcamins
20:48 wizzyrea     ^^^^
20:48 jcamins      oleonard: I have already finished four other books trying to get through this section in Les Miserables.
20:48 * wizzyrea   laughs
20:48 cait         :)
20:49 jcamins      Okay...
20:49 jcamins      I must strategize.
20:50 jcamins      I am still seven baked goods short of done with holiday baking, and I have a surprise holiday party this evening.
20:50 cait         a surprise party?
20:50 jcamins      (thankfully I don't need the baked goods *for* the holiday party)
20:50 jcamins      No, a surprise holiday party.
20:50 wizzyrea     Pavlova. It can finish while you are at the party.
20:51 cait         wh ois surprised?
20:51 wizzyrea     i think jcamins
20:51 wizzyrea     is surprised at the existence of the party
20:51 jcamins      Yes.
20:51 cait         ah hm
20:52 jcamins      I also have the neediest cat *ever*.
20:52 cait         heh
20:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #31: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/31/
20:58 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 9033 - Wide character error in runreport.pl
20:58 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 9033: Wide character error in runreport.pl
20:58 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9101: Add REPORT_GROUP to sample data
20:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9033 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Wide character error in runreport.pl
20:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9101 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Add REPORT_GROUP to authorised values sample data
21:00 jcamins      I just bought five pounds of flour a few weeks ago.
21:00 jcamins      Why am I already out?
21:01 cait         because it's pre christmas time?
21:01 cait         myshkin ate it?
21:02 jcamins      The holidays, I think.
21:03 jcamins      Also, remember how I said buying 10lbs of flour was a mistake because I'd be out before I knew it?
21:03 jcamins      I was right.
21:04 rangi        heh
21:09 * jcamins    uses his knowledge of the art of tessellation to spread club crackers on his baking sheets.
21:13 wizzyrea     oh are you making the toffee things
21:13 cait         toffee?
21:13 * wizzyrea   wonders how much flour is in jcamins' computer
21:13 cait         heh
21:14 wizzyrea     you pour hot toffee over crackers
21:14 wizzyrea     and it makes this yummy cracker-candy thing
21:14 cait         oooh
21:14 cait         yum
21:14 jcamins      Yes I am.
21:15 jcamins      And none... I just put my keyboard cover on. :P
21:15 cait         jcamins: do you ship to germany? :)
21:15 druthb       he's been known to *deliver* to Kansas.  That's what I'm hoping for.
21:16 jcamins      Problem...
21:16 wahanui      problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes.
21:16 jcamins      The recipe called for 1 stick of butter, 1 cup sugar.
21:16 jcamins      I doubled it.
21:16 jcamins      There's waaaaay too much butter.
21:16 * jcamins    adds more sugar.
21:27 oleonard     I created a wiki page for the next meeting since no one else had: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting,_9_January_2013
21:28 oleonard     I copied the basic agenda and left in the GPLv3+ vote item, please correct or amend
21:28 rangi        thanks
21:31 jcamins      We already voted on the GPLv3+ issue, thank goodness.
21:31 oleonard     Oh did we resolve that? I thought something had been pushed to the next meeting
21:32 jcamins      We did, despite the efforts of some people to waste everyone's time.
21:33 eythian      hi
21:33 cait         hi eythian
21:33 * jcamins    was not referring to eythian.
21:33 eythian      heh
21:35 rambutan     Tessellation is the process of creating a two-dimensional plane using the repetition of a geometric shape with no overlaps and no gaps.
21:36 eythian      rambutan: on that note, the Escher museum in Den Haag is really quite cool.
21:37 rambutan     You know eythian, I was just thinking about the Escher museum when you mentioned that.
21:37 rambutan     where is Den Haag?
21:38 eythian      I spent about 3 or 4 hours there when I was last in Den Haag
21:38 eythian      in the Netherlands
21:38 rambutan     ah, of course
21:40 rambutan     The Escher Museum (Escher in het Paleis, Escher in the Palace) is a museum in The Hague, Netherlands, featuring the works of the Dutch graphical artist M. C. Escher.
21:40 rambutan     And now I make the connection between tessellation and the Escher Museum.
21:41 rambutan     citation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escher_Museum
21:51 jcamins      I always forget how long that takes.
21:51 jcamins      One pan isn't that time-consuming.
21:51 jcamins      But the amount of time required increases exponentially.
21:52 rangi        http://www.cafepress.com/koha12.751374936
21:52 rangi        the perfect xmas gift
21:52 rangi        heh
21:55 jcamins      Four pans of saltine toffee bark!
21:58 jcamins      [off] https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c135.0.403.403/p403x403/430900_977400055539_140659915_n.jpg <-- proof!
21:59 jcamins      Of course, foreshortening makes it look like those pans are all deeper than they are wide, when in fact the opposite is true.
22:00 jcamins      Indeed, less than half the toffee bark is visible in that photo.
22:12 cait         jcamins: posting those photos is a little mean, don't you think? :)
22:13 jcamins      cait: ummm...
22:13 jcamins      tough.
22:13 jcamins      :P
22:37 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @wizzyrea: "@ranginui got another library card today SQUEE #kohails"
22:44 talljoy2     jcamins: is there any known issue for dom indexing and icu-chains?  linker appears to not work correctly when those two are used.
22:44 wizzyrea     jcamins: ty for the help with ccl
22:45 jcamins      talljoy2: not to my knowledge. It works for me.
22:45 talljoy2     curious.  we had a fail with it.
22:45 talljoy2     could be one off.  i need to find a smaller database to test it on than the monster i have currently.  heh
23:16 tcohen       hi rangi
23:16 tcohen       what git feature would u #koha highlight?
23:17 jcamins      tcohen: what do you mean?
23:17 tcohen       i'm giving an intro to using git tomorrow
23:17 tcohen       for my 30+ coleages
23:17 tcohen       i love rebasing -i
23:17 tcohen       and git mergetool
23:17 jcamins      git rebase -i, definitely.
23:17 tcohen       exactly
23:18 tcohen       i'll talk about the super git-bz tool
23:18 tcohen       as an example of extensibility
23:19 tcohen       i've never cherry-picked thuo
23:19 jcamins      Git cherry-pick is slightly less useful for most people.
23:19 tcohen       is a RM thing right?
23:19 jcamins      RMaint.
23:20 tcohen       right
23:20 jcamins      RM never cherry-picks.
23:20 jcamins      git bisect is useful.
23:20 cait         git bisect is cool too
23:20 tcohen       what do u use for solving merge conflicts?
23:21 cait         jinx ;)
23:21 jcamins      My razor-sharp mind. :P
23:21 tcohen       kdiff3?
23:21 tcohen       kompare?
23:21 jcamins      vim.
23:21 tcohen       vimdiff
23:21 jcamins      No, just vim.
23:22 tcohen       you mean by hand
23:22 jcamins      Right.
23:22 tcohen       me too, but i've studied using those tools
23:22 tcohen       to convince people
23:23 tcohen       we are moving from trac+svn to redmine+gitolite+git
23:23 tcohen       i'll explain git-svn for migration
23:25 tcohen       can anyone give a short explanatio of bisect?
23:27 jcamins      I can't figure out bug 9275.
23:27 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9275 trivial, P5 - low, ---, rominaracca, Passed QA , Missing '<' closing pharagraph tag
23:27 tcohen       OH! git bisect + unit tests ;)
23:27 jcamins      Where's the problem?
23:27 wahanui      it has been said that the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes.
23:28 tcohen       s/,/</ ?
23:28 jcamins      Right, I see that there is a problem, but I don't see it in the interface.
23:29 tcohen       in the autorithy help section?
23:29 jcamins      Oh, *edit* page.
23:29 jcamins      Thanks.
23:31 tcohen       how do u go backwards using bisect? is it done when bisect bad is issued?
23:31 jcamins      I've never been any good at it, unfortunately.
23:32 tcohen       ok
23:34 tcohen       thanks for your oppinion jcamins
23:34 tcohen       i'll see what can i do with LibreOficce about this
23:34 tcohen       :-(
23:35 jcamins      tcohen: rangi does really good instructions for using git bisect.
23:35 tcohen       hmm, i guess i'll try later then
23:44 tcohen       rangi fully backs test-driven development
23:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #976 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #974 1 day 3 hr ago)
23:45 jcamins      Yes.
23:45 jcamins      Wait, why is master unstable?
23:45 jcamins      Why didn't I get notification of that?
23:45 tcohen       now i've read about bisect, I'm sure he will know a lot about it!
23:45 jcamins      Oh, daily quotes.
23:51 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9275 follow-up: Add Romina Racca to history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc10d7a056270860fa2183942fd3e14ffdd12f9a> / Bug 9275 Missing '<' closing pharagraph tag <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b3e1668735138da4f540905a5eb9b118635bc9e> / Bug 9246: Koha installer crash with mysql error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca47