Time Nick Message 04:29 BobB druthb are you about? 04:29 druthb I am. Hi, BobB! :) 04:29 BobB Hi Ruth :) 04:29 BobB how's life? 04:30 druthb It's going pretty well. This has certainly been an interesting year for me. 04:30 druthb Kind of stunned that it's almost over. 04:30 BobB yeah, they speed up towards the end :) 04:30 druthb How's sweet Irma? 04:31 BobB Very well, thx. 04:31 druthb :) Good. 04:31 BobB Do you know where follet Destiny stores the item type? Is it in the 852 tag? 04:32 druthb Hm. I've not worked with a lot of Destiny boxen... I know talljoy has done a couple; let me check our notes, see what I can find. 04:33 druthb It looks like the 852$x has sub-subfields, with an @ delimiter...so 852$x@a is item type, @c acq date @e volume number... that sub-sub thing gave her fits. 04:34 BobB yeah I've got those @ characters all over the place.... ugly 04:34 druthb When I was messing with one of those, I used split() to chop the subfield x apart; that made things a little more orderly. 04:35 BobB $xCOPYID:23034$xFSC@aNon-fiction@c20120828@j@j@j@i@i@i$h221.61 ARC 04:35 BobB ughhh !!! 04:36 druthb yeah. a split() and two substr() statements can be used to make a hash out of the second $x. Anything where the value isn't present, like all those @j entries, can be tossed. 04:38 BobB so in my example there, is FSC the item type or is Non-Fiction? That looks more like a collection code? 04:39 BobB I can check that further. 04:39 BobB Thanks Ruth! 04:39 druthb FSC is probably the item type. 04:39 BobB Cool. I can verify that. 04:40 BobB What time is it where you are? 04:40 BobB almost Friday evening here, I'd better press on. 04:41 BobB Many thanks for your help. 04:41 druthb It's Thursday evening latish. :) Be well. 04:42 BobB Take care. 06:33 cait hi #koha 07:32 * magnuse waves 07:32 * cait waves back 07:34 magnuse yay! 07:45 reiveune hello 07:49 cait hi reiveune 07:49 cait and bbl 08:18 gaetan_B hello 08:30 kf happy friday #koha 08:33 mib_ioe40l Hi, I would like to change the notifications email that the patrons receive, but I do not know where to go to change it. Could you help me? 09:15 HB Morning 09:19 HB Just starting a 3.10 install in the ubuntu package setup it says To configure your server for use with DNS names: After install, edit /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf with details about your site. You may need to create this file. Some example content would be:DOMAIN=".framisdooby.org" # Change this to be your domain. Any instance will be a subdomain of this string 09:19 HB .... now the it department gave me data.inbo.be/koha as an adress do i put DOMAIN="data.inbo.be/koha" ? 09:21 HB ok i keep searching :) 09:35 kf druthb: shouldn't you be sleeping? 09:35 * druthb looks innocent 09:42 HB :s just testing te smiles 09:50 vkm any idea about release of stable new version 09:53 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 09:53 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -2.7°C (10:43 AM CET on December 07, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). 10:02 magnuse @wunder boo 10:02 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (10:50 AM CET on December 07, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 10:08 druthb @wunder 66046 10:08 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 7.1°C (4:07 AM CST on December 07, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). 10:12 kf @wunder Konstanz 10:12 huginn kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -2.0°C (11:00 AM CET on December 07, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Falling). 10:13 vkm when stable version of 3.10 release? 10:14 drojf when someone fixes bug 9052 and it is packaged i guess 10:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, In Discussion , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages 10:14 drojf good day #koha 10:16 vkm ok 10:40 gerundio hi, is there any wiki entry that shows the areas available in the Koha theme? 10:41 gerundio theme? 10:41 gerundio template? 10:41 wahanui i guess template is a copy from output 10:47 HB question if i export a file to ris the pagination normaly 300a isnt exported if i take the marc export it is exported ... anny reason for that ? 10:48 HB or a workaround 10:48 wahanui a workaround is jcamins_lib1, jcamins_lib2, jcamins_lib3, jcamins_lib4, if you're insistent on using single branch mode. 10:54 HB i exported all existing fields (filled them in first) none of them go to the page indicator in the ris format 10:55 HB problem :OP 10:59 kf HB: you could file a bug 11:11 gaetan_B gerundio: i remember nengard did somehting like this in the manual, can't find it right now though... 11:13 kf HB: what do you mean by you exported all existing fields? 11:13 magnuse gerundio: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/impopac.html 11:16 gerundio gaetan_B, magnuse thank you very much 11:29 HB sorry was eating well i filled in all the fields (i did put in the number off the field as tekst) in the default frameword ... searched the record in the client ... and exported it as a ris file 11:29 HB frameword = framework 11:30 HB was just checking how they did match as we also use endnote to import files from the koha 11:42 hb BACK SORRY DC 11:55 tcohen bug 9235 11:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9235 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Hardcoded values in cronjobs/backup.sh 12:22 mib_1rug2b hi 12:23 mib_1rug2b trying to install koha on debian. got ERROR 1044 (42000) at line 4: Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' to database 'koha_bibblan' when trying to create instance. 12:23 mib_1rug2b that's weird 12:24 mib_1rug2b anyone? 12:25 mib_1rug2b help 12:30 kf mib_1rug2b: that looks like a problem with mysql 12:30 kf what are you trying to do? 12:32 magnuse sounds like Bug 6276 12:32 magnuse 12:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6276 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , Access denied for user ...@localhost 12:33 mib_1rug2b thanks. 12:37 magnuse mib_1rug2b: not sure that was a lot of help :-) 12:38 magnuse i have a feeling there is another relevant bug too, but i can't seem to find it 12:38 magnuse hm, you are installing with koha-common, right? 12:39 magnuse guess so, since you said "create instance" 12:39 mib_1rug2b yes koha-common 12:39 wahanui somebody said koha-common was the one you want, the main koha one needs a bit more work (its for setting up a single instance) 12:39 mib_1rug2b the dabasase and user were created (empty database)( 12:40 magnuse bibblan - sounds swedish? :-) 12:41 mib_1rug2b :) 12:41 mib_1rug2b yes it is 12:42 magnuse yay! i'm in norway 12:42 mib_1rug2b :) 12:43 magnuse that bug i found seems to report the error in the browser - is that where you see it, or do you get it when you run koha-create? 12:43 mib_1rug2b no got it when i run koha create 12:43 mib_1rug2b weird is that it says acces denied for debian-sys-main 12:44 mib_1rug2b but now i see that user koha_bibblan doesn't any privilege 12:44 mib_1rug2b but debian-sys-maint has all privileges 12:48 magnuse sorry, i gotta run - bbl 13:19 oleonard Hi #koha 13:20 tcohen hi oleonard 13:35 drojf [off] sjohnson will be back on monday. i'm looking forward to the party ;) 13:37 gaetan_B when doing a search in authorities, they are sorted alphabetically on the heading, but when you have subdivisions to your heading, they are not take into account 13:37 gaetan_B has this ever worked before, or would that be a new functionnal requirement ? 13:40 oleonard [off] I would feel slightly more sympathy for sjohnson if sjohnson had ever submitted a patch, or posted to the mailing list, or commented on a bug... 13:41 oleonard But in all seriousness, I think we should have a mailing list policy that members who send out of office replies should be automatically unsubscribed. 13:41 jcamins gaetan_B: that has never worked. 13:42 jcamins gaetan_B: it would be easy with DOM. 13:42 gaetan_B jcamins: ok i'll file a bz then 13:42 jcamins Just change which field is being used for sorting. 13:42 jcamins It would, of course, be completely impossible with GRS-1. 13:44 jcamins I never merged in bug 9167! 13:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The sort field copyrightdate is not standardized 13:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9167' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=56c52b2dbc00f36eeb0e1bf062e0bcd0b074f222> / Bug 9167: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4153e1412110443a2f00dc29f4314308025fad3b> 13:53 kf morning RM 13:53 jcamins Morning. 13:53 wahanui i think morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. 13:54 jcamins I re-merged 9167. 13:54 kf hm? 13:55 jcamins Yesterday morning I merged the bug_9167 branch prior to incrementing the version number. 14:00 jenkins_koha Starting build #969 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #966 3 days 0 hr ago) 14:17 gerundio hey, I'm adding Patron card templates at the moment 14:17 gerundio I previously created a printing profile 14:18 gerundio but it doesn't show up for me to select it on the template creation form 14:18 gerundio is this standard behavior? 14:19 jcamins No. 14:19 gerundio I should be able to assign an existing profile to a new template upon creation, right? 14:19 jcamins That is my understanding. 14:20 jcamins However, I don't use the patron card creator. 14:21 gerundio :s 14:24 gerundio and the weirdest is that the printer profile I've created in the patron card area is showing up in the labels profiles 14:28 jcamins khall: thanks for testing 9202! :) 14:28 khall np! 14:29 khall Hey, did you know that there is an XXX dbrev in master right now? 14:29 jcamins Not anymore. 14:29 jcamins I just merged in the missing branch. 14:29 jcamins :) 14:29 khall ah, I guess i need to pull 14:29 jcamins Fifteen minutes ago. 14:29 jcamins However, I didn't know until a few minutes ago. ;) 14:30 libsysguy jcamins is the eye of Sauron 14:31 jcamins All I look upon withers and dies! 14:31 jcamins ... or was that not your point? 14:31 khall lol 14:31 oleonard "Has difficulty spotting hobbits trespassing on his property?" 14:33 jcamins Likes crepes with raspberry jam for breakfast? 14:33 jcamins Oh, no, that's hobbits. 14:33 libsysguy just look for hairy feet 14:33 libsysguy with height < 4 ft 14:34 khall Bug 8190 needs some qa love. I volunteer to switch all warns to logging when this gets in! 14:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8190 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add a logging module to Koha, that can report log message to staff interface (for developer use) 14:35 jcamins khall++ 14:36 libsysguy whats the rule on that jcamins 14:36 jcamins Under Plack it should be possible to catch SIGWARN. 14:36 libsysguy can I QA that? 14:37 * kf checks 14:40 * tcohen needs someone to look at bug 9209 so he feels more confident to start mocking more things 14:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9209 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Mocked Koha::Calendar tests 14:41 drojf "server shutdown at 17:00pm". germans. i wonder when 17:00am is 14:41 gerundio I'm looking at the source code, line 53 from intranet/cgi-bin/patroncards/edit-template.pl 14:41 kf libsysguy: it's freshyl signed off, I will try to take a look this weekend/early next week 14:42 gerundio the query looks good, retrieve the profiles assigned to the current template or the ones not assigned at all 14:42 libsysguy kk kf 14:42 gerundio running the query on the DB client it retrieves results 14:42 jcamins gerundio: you're not using Plack, are you? 14:42 kf libsysguy: if you wanted to add an additonal sign-off... that would not hurt of course :) 14:42 kf or take a look at the code before that 14:42 gerundio jcamins, 1st time I hear about it 14:42 gerundio so I guess I'm not using it :D 14:43 gerundio http://plackperl.org/, is this what you mean? 14:44 gerundio hmmm, I think I see the issue 14:44 khall kf libsysguy, it wouldn't hurt be this is an amalgamation of previously patches all of which were signed of multiple times. 14:44 gerundio that query is only ran if the op='edit' 14:44 drojf gerundio: you would remember the fun of installing plack for koha ;) 14:44 gerundio let me save the template and then edit it to see what happens :D 14:45 gerundio drojf, I detect a little amount of sarcasm on that sentence eheheheh 14:45 gerundio I think I'll pass the fun while I can 14:46 gerundio yeap, the printer profile shows up on edit 14:47 gerundio shall I open a bug for this? 14:49 gerundio even so, being the only printer available in the drop down, it doesn't get assign to the template 14:49 gerundio it still shows "Profile unassigned" 14:51 kf I thought bug 9243 had been fixed ages ago:( 14:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9243 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, christophe.croullebois, Needs Signoff , Bad delete order in sub index_records in rebuild_zebra.pl 14:52 jcamins kf: no, the problem that was fixed is that it was in the other order, which left stale records in the database. 14:53 kf oh 14:53 jcamins The solution, of course, is to not rely on the order of operations. 14:54 libsysguy tcohen I get a failure 14:55 kf jcamins: sounds like it 14:55 gerundio is it supposed to exist any predefined printer profile after we finish the koha install? 14:55 libsysguy tcohen it failed test 23, 29, and 35 14:55 gerundio I've now created 2 printer profiles 14:56 vfernandes hi :) 14:56 gerundio but I can't seem to be able to assign any template to the 1st profile 14:56 gerundio olá vfernandes :) 14:57 vfernandes it's nice to see some of my patches being signed off 14:58 * jcamins heads into the city. 14:58 jcamins_away gerundio: no, there are none by default. 14:58 gerundio jcamins_away, ok thanks 14:58 vfernandes what's the next step of a patch being signed off? QA, push? 14:59 gerundio and now I've deleted the 1st profile 14:59 gerundio created a 3rd one, just like the 1st 14:59 jcamins_away vfernandes: yes, exactly. :) 14:59 gerundio when I tried to assign it, the dropdown was showing it already selected 15:00 gerundio and I got this beautifull message after pressing save 15:00 pastebot "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Edit patron card template error" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/302 15:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #969: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/969/ 15:09 jenkins_koha jcamins: Bug 9167: Increment version number 15:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The sort field copyrightdate is not standardized 15:19 gerundio any idea regarding that patron card template error I pasted 10 minutes ago? 15:20 vfernandes I never any problem with patron card template 15:20 vfernandes *I never had 15:20 vfernandes do you have different profiles? 15:22 vfernandes I can't help you infortunally :/ 15:31 gerundio well, went for the classic "restart" tactic 15:31 gerundio removed all templates and created them back 15:31 gerundio it seems like it worked now 15:51 libsysguy hey kf or jcamins were we supposed to be adding [Passed-QA] to sign-offs 15:51 vfernandes maybe it was a template problem and not a profile problem 16:07 reiveune bye 16:08 gmcharlt @quote random 16:08 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #28: "<owen> I'm glad munin doesn't follow me around all day remembering *everything* I say." (added by jdavidb at 01:14 PM, September 01, 2009) 16:08 libsysguy whoa that one is OLD 16:18 jcamins_away libsysguy: not necessary, no. 16:19 libsysguy okay just double checking 16:19 libsysguy today is my QA day 16:19 jcamins_away Yay! 16:20 jcamins_away qa_day++ 16:20 libsysguy yeah 16:20 libsysguy I'm QA-ing one of your patches now 16:20 libsysguy :p 16:20 jcamins_away Yay! 16:21 libsysguy I have to admit, you're 2 step test plan is confusing on bug 9049 16:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9049 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , rebuild_zebra should not use shadow when called with -r 16:22 jcamins_away libsysguy: I've been told that other people who have faster computers don't have a merge phase. 16:22 libsysguy oh…I got a merge phase 16:22 libsysguy and I'd like to think my computer is pretty quick 16:22 oleonard Who you callin' old libsysguy? :P 16:22 * jcamins_away doesn't know what makes the difference, then. 16:22 libsysguy so am I supposed to see it 16:23 jcamins_away Not after the patch. 16:23 libsysguy or if I do see it does that mean it failed 16:23 libsysguy hm 16:23 jcamins_away If you see it after the patch, that means the patch failed, yes. 16:23 libsysguy thats why I was confused 16:23 libsysguy wajasu appears to have gotten it and signed off on the patch 16:23 jcamins_away Or that I was misunderstanding the cryptic log messages from Zebra, which is quite possible. 16:24 libsysguy well it is such a simple patch 16:24 jcamins_away He got the Merge before the patch, but not after. 16:24 libsysguy i see 16:24 libsysguy well I get it after 16:24 libsysguy lol 16:24 * libsysguy hates failing patche 16:25 jcamins_away Do you get a message about enabling shadow after, too? 16:25 libsysguy in the log? 16:25 jcamins_away Right. 16:26 libsysguy no 16:26 libsysguy it looks like it sorts the sections 16:26 libsysguy merges 16:26 jcamins_away Did you get the message before the patch? 16:26 libsysguy well it probably would have been helpful to check that before I applied the patch 16:26 libsysguy let me unset and check 16:27 * jcamins_away has always had a perfect correlation between merge and shadow, but doesn't claim to understand the Zebra log. 16:28 libsysguy I'll re-index without the patch and see what I get 16:30 jcamins_away The patch may simply not work, of course. 16:31 * libsysguy has faith in a patch from jcamins 16:32 libsysguy :p 16:32 libsysguy if I see shadow in the logs i would be inclined to say you were wrong about merge in the logs 16:32 libsysguy however if they look the same I'd say the patch doesn't work 16:33 jcamins_away Agreed. 16:34 jcamins_away The merge/no-merge thing may have to do with the fact that both wajasu and I are using lxc and strangely configured filesystems, I suppose. 16:36 gerundio what's your opinion about the Kiritaki Koha android app? 16:36 libsysguy jcamins_away: without the patch I occasionally see the line Moving to flat shadow: recdB 16:36 gerundio from the description I couldn't really understand what it does 16:36 libsysguy which was not there with the patch 16:55 jcamins_away libsysguy_afk: yeah, sounds like I just don't understand the logs. 16:55 jcamins_away gerundio: it's just a basic search thing. 16:55 jcamins_away I think. 17:00 gerundio jcamins_away, it looks like it for the moment 17:01 gerundio http://code.google.com/p/kiritakikoha/ 17:01 gerundio but the objectives look promissing 17:02 jcamins_away I think it's another project pending sponsorship. 17:04 drojf basic unauthenticated search in the opac (aka passing an url and showing a webpage i suppose) is v1.2? interesting 17:04 drojf maybe i'm missing some detail 17:05 jcamins_away drojf: I think it's a demo of how cool the Koha web services API is. 17:06 drojf ah :) 17:07 mib_1rug2b hi! anyone som can help me with installation? uknow if koha create failed (got an empty database) or if there's something wrong with apache conf 17:07 jcamins_away mib_1rug2b: probably the Apache configuration. 17:07 jcamins_away The koha-create command does not populate the database. 17:08 mib_1rug2b ok good to know :) 17:08 jcamins_away If the database was created, then probably you just need to adjust the VirtualHost directive, add a Listen to /etc/apache2/ports.conf, or correct a DNS entry. 17:09 mib_1rug2b i have my website on the server. wants to have koha on special port. like mywebsite.com:8080 for opac and mywebsite:81 for admin 17:09 jcamins_away In that case, you'll need to add Listen directives to /etc/apache2/ports.conf. 17:10 mib_1rug2b ok. i did the virtualhost directive i /etc/apache2/sites-enabled but nothing i etc/apache2/ports.conf 17:10 mib_1rug2b thanks i'm gonna look 17:11 oleonard Patch for Bug 8108 rebased, thanks for testing khall 17:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8108 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Remove unused images from the OPAC 17:11 jcamins_away plack? 17:11 wahanui Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information. 17:11 jcamins_away dracoling: ^^ 17:12 mib_1rug2b jcamins_away : thanks. got it working 17:12 dracoling jcamins_away: thanks 17:19 khall oleonard, it looks like those images are still referenced in some css files 17:20 khall I imagine we need to either fix the css files, or delete them if they are cruft. 17:20 oleonard Fail it and I'll check it 17:20 khall will do 17:21 jcamins_away I think the sanop.css, at least, is cruft. 17:21 khall that was my suspicion 17:24 jcamins_away oleonard: I just had a thought... do all modern browsers support CSS includes? 17:24 oleonard What do you mean by CSS includes? 17:24 jcamins_away @include ([whatever the syntax is] 17:24 huginn jcamins_away: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 17:25 oleonard Yes, all modern browsers support that 17:25 jcamins_away I don't know why I didn't think of it before. We could simply replace the staff-global.css and opac.css files with @include() things. 17:25 jcamins_away The ones in CCSR. 17:26 oleonard I don't see what you're getting at 17:26 jcamins_away There's a stale reference to an image in staff-global.css in the CCSR theme. 17:26 jcamins_away You already removed an identical reference from the file in prog. 17:27 jcamins_away The staff-global.css for the CCSR theme is almost identical to that in prog. 17:27 jcamins_away I think it has ~3 differences. 17:27 jcamins_away However, because of the way we have Apache configured, I had to copy all the CSS over anyway. 17:28 oleonard I don't understand, CCSR doesn't have a staff component 17:28 jcamins_away That's a good point. 17:28 * jcamins_away doesn't understand why Kyle's grep turned up staff-global.css in a ccsr directory. 17:28 oleonard it didn't, it turned up a reference in staff-global.css to a file which is named the same as one in the OPAC 17:29 jcamins_away Right, so, the idea still applies to opac.css. 17:29 oleonard That line isn't actually relevant, meaning the only problem references are in sanop.css 17:29 * jcamins_away will be quiet now. 17:31 oleonard I still don't understand what you were trying to get at jcamins_away, but I think @include doesn't really offer any advantage that the regular cascade of <link>ed stylesheets doesn't have 17:31 jcamins_away oleonard: but we don't want to forcibly include all prog stylesheets when rendering non-prog pages. 17:32 oleonard No... Do we do that? 17:32 jcamins_away No. 17:32 jcamins_away Which is good. 17:33 jcamins_away But it means we have duplicate stale definitions in non-prog themes. 17:34 oleonard ? 17:34 jcamins_away By making CSS in non-prog themes contain overridden elements only and include the prog stylesheets, we get to cut down on the amount of cruft. 17:34 jcamins_away koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/ccsr/en/opac.css is nearly identical to koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/opac.css. 17:35 oleonard Oh, you're saying non-prog themes should include prog/opac.css by default and only override what is necessary 17:35 jcamins_away Yes. 17:35 jcamins_away I suspect when I copied opac.css I didn't know that was possible. 17:36 gerundio you're talking about https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/@import, right? 17:36 jcamins_away Yes. 17:36 jcamins_away @import not @include 17:36 huginn jcamins_away: downloading the Perl source 17:36 jcamins_away Available as of IE 5.5. 17:36 oleonard I'm not sure that is really more efficient jcamins_away. 17:36 jcamins_away It is in terms of reducing bugs. 17:37 oleonard Why? 17:37 gerundio btw, the existence of the same CSS file in 2 places should be considered if you want to run the 2 instances separately 17:37 jcamins_away Because right now if there's a problematic CSS definition in prog, we change it, but might leave it the same in ccsr. 17:39 oleonard jcamins_away: But someone could also want to create a theme which differs drastically from prog, and they would have to override many many things rather than start from scratch 17:39 gerundio oleonard, not really, they just would have to remove the @include instruction on the beginning of the CSS file 17:39 jcamins_away oleonard: right, in that case that person should not use @import to import the prog CSS. 17:40 jcamins_away I'm not saying it should be a requirement for *all* themes. 17:40 oleonard Okay, I misunderstood 17:40 oleonard I would make sense to @import prog/opac.css for CCSR in that case 17:41 jcamins_away When we have a theme that is basically the same as prog but with just enough incompatible change that it would break things for everyone else, we should use @import. 17:41 oleonard ...or just <link> it. 17:41 jcamins_away Oh, because we do that in a .inc file. 17:41 jcamins_away Good call. 17:41 jcamins_away I hadn't thought of that. 17:43 jcamins_away Anyway, my point was, I think that's a good idea, and I wanted to know what you thought. 17:47 oleonard I think it's a good idea for theme developers who are comfortable with working with CSS overrides. 17:49 oleonard Is there a good reason for requiring that the user configure colors.css for the CCSR theme? 17:49 jcamins_away I don't think so- all that CSS could be moved into opac.css. 17:50 * oleonard would like to see that happen 17:52 jcamins_away We should check with maximep to be sure. 17:53 jcamins_away maximep: is there any reason that the CSS in colors.css shouldn't be moved to opac.css? 17:53 gaetan_B in authorities framework one can define a summary, when searching for a specific authority type at opac, the results display both the summary and a standardized concatenation of the authority 17:53 gaetan_B is it because of the way my default authority is set up or is it a bug ? 17:54 gaetan_B (my default authority has no summary) 17:54 jcamins_away gaetan_B: I was told it was a feature. My original patch included the summary only, and I was asked for a follow-up that included the standardized concatenation. 17:54 gaetan_B hmm 17:54 jcamins_away So, bug. 17:55 gaetan_B what was the original bz ? 17:57 jcamins_away Bug 3462, maybe? 17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Link see also in authorities 17:59 * oleonard cuts out early 18:02 gerundio have a nice weekend everyone 18:16 gaetan_B bye ! 18:29 rangi kiritakikoha does searches, and holds, including searching via barcode 18:30 rangi it's a learning tool for teaching android programming, some more students will be working on it in january adding some more features 18:30 jcamins_away Oh, I thought it was a demo of how cool webservice APIs are. 18:30 rangi nope 18:30 jcamins_away (hint: they're very cool!) 18:34 drojf jcamins_away: how would i get the marc record loaded in your T::T plugin? i thought i would do something like $template->param(mymarc => $record); in my perl file for the [% USE record = MARC(mymarc) %] but that does not work 18:34 jcamins_away drojf: that is how you would do it. 18:34 jcamins_away khall reports that it doesn't work. 18:34 drojf Template process failed: plugin error - Type of arg 1 to push must be array (not hash element) at /home/mirko/koha/Koha/Template/Plugin/MARC.pm line 225, near "$fieldobj;" 18:35 drojf ah ok 18:36 jcamins_away Hm... I think I see what the problem is, though I don't see why it would be an issue. 18:36 jcamins_away Or, rather, why it wasn't an issue when I used the script yesterday. 18:37 drojf rangi: it's a student project? that's cool. 18:37 drojf jcamins_away: something magical you left out of the patch? :) 18:37 rangi catalyst academy 18:38 jcamins_away Okay, try that one. 18:38 jcamins_away Both patches work for me, oddly. 18:39 jcamins_away If that doesn't work, I'll troubleshoot further when I have a few spare minutes at home. 18:46 drojf jcamins_away: doesn't work for me 18:46 jcamins_away drojf: you can set it back to "Failed QA," and I'll try to troubleshoot it when I'm at home. 18:47 jcamins_away Same error message? 18:49 pastebot "drojf" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "error bug 9202" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/303 18:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9202 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , TT plugin to allow direct display of MARC::Records 18:50 jcamins_away Oh, different ones. 18:51 * drojf walks off for shopping 18:52 jcamins_away I wonder if it's because I have Perl 5.14. 18:54 jcamins_away Yup. 18:54 jcamins_away That is indeed the case. 18:56 jcamins_away Interesting. 18:56 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 19:00 drojf perl 5.14? that's witchcraft 19:06 drojf first person to click through my post-workshop evaluation survey voted 'chance we will be using koha increased by workshop' and 'will definitely use/recommend to my people' \o/ 19:06 jcamins_away \o/ 19:06 jcamins_away Now I know what the problem is, I fixed it. 19:06 * drojf tries the walking off/shopping thing again 19:06 drojf cool 19:06 drojf will try when i'm back 19:07 drojf i confirm that it works :) try to break it later 19:15 jcamins_away Yay! 19:17 slef jcamins_away: same here but most of the time, I've no idea what the problem is. That's the problem. ;-) 19:18 slef arrrrrgh recursion infinite loop firey death arrrrgh 19:18 jcamins_away lol 19:18 slef wahanui: seventh question? 19:18 wahanui no idea, slef 19:18 jcamins_away eighth question? 19:18 jcamins_away sixth question? 19:18 wahanui somebody said sixth question was "Why are you still asking wahanui?" or "How bored are you?" 19:18 slef wahanui: seventh question? is <reply> are you really this bored? 19:18 wahanui slef: i haven't a clue 19:18 slef wahanui: seventh question is <reply> are you really this bored? 19:18 wahanui slef: i don't know 19:19 slef wahanui: seventh question is <reply> "are you really this bored?" 19:19 wahanui OK, slef. 19:19 jcamins_away You can also do a regex substitute thing. 19:19 slef wahanui: eight question is "come on now - haven't you got homes to go to?" 19:19 wahanui OK, slef. 19:19 slef oops 19:20 slef wahanui: eighth question is "come on now - haven't you got homes to go to?" 19:20 wahanui OK, slef. 19:20 slef wahanui: forget eight question 19:20 wahanui slef: I forgot eight question 19:20 slef fifth question? 19:20 wahanui fifth question is "Are we there yet?" 19:21 slef first question? 19:21 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" 19:22 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8054238/North-Island-woken-by-earthquake 19:23 jcamins_away Yikes! 19:26 slef "The largest quake to hit New Zealand this morning was a 5.8 quake which struck at 7.19am. It was 175 kilometres deep and centred 20km south east of Tokoroa. It was felt widely throughout the central North Island, as far north as Auckland and as far south as Marlborough. The quake was one of 24 quakes." 19:26 rangi i didnt feel it 19:26 slef rangi: yebbut you're insensitive, aren't you? 19:27 rangi heh too earthquakes yep 19:31 rangi heh 19:31 * rangi ignores the architecture thread 19:32 * cait thinks rangi is insensitive to architecture threads too 19:32 rangi heh 19:33 * jcamins_away considers responding: No. / What does that even mean? The manual at manual.koha-community.org discusses what the system does. / The "client" is a web browser. The server is a traditional LAMP server." / There is not. 19:34 rangi yeah thats about it 19:34 jcamins_away Maybe I should, actually. 19:34 jcamins_away See if we can cut off the silliness at the head. 19:34 jcamins_away *head off at the cut 19:34 jcamins_away *whatever 19:40 cait looks like someone wants us to do his homework 19:40 rangi it does 19:43 * jcamins_away responded. 19:43 jcamins_away Last response to that thread. 19:43 jcamins_away (from me) 19:44 * jcamins_away hopes no one else wastes their time on that one. Test patches, don't feed trolls. 19:44 rangi :) 19:44 jcamins_away That should be in the mailing list footer. 19:45 cait rangi: can you add that to the quotes in bugzilla? :) 19:45 jcamins_away "Respect the Koha community: test patches, don't feed trolls." 19:45 cait @quote add jcamins: test patches, don't feed trolls. 19:45 huginn cait: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 19:45 cait meh. 19:46 rangi added to bugzilla 19:50 druthb @quote add jcamins: test patches, don't feed trolls. 19:50 huginn druthb: The operation succeeded. Quote #222 added. 19:51 * druthb sets out pans of troll-chow on the perimeter, to draw them away. 19:59 cait thx rangi++ and druthb++ 19:59 druthb @karma 19:59 huginn druthb: Highest karma: "rangi" (706), "oleonard" (602), and "jcamins" (460). Lowest karma: "<!" (-112), "failed" (-95), and "-" (-68). You (druthb) are ranked 14 out of 2318. 19:59 druthb @most increased 19:59 huginn druthb: "rangi": 711, "oleonard": 607, "jcamins": 462, "wizzyrea": 357, "cait": 343, "gmcharlt": 335, "chris_n": 310, "paul_p": 273, "sekjal": 245, "nengard": 232, "kf": 219, "magnuse": 193, "slef": 170, "druthb": 162, "eythian": 150, "fredericd": 95, "hdl": 69, "marcelr": 65, "biblibre": 65, "mveron": 64, "hdl_laptop": 60, "mtj": 56, "jwagner": 54, "tcohen": 52, and "drojf": 51 20:00 cait oh i almost caught up with wizzyrea :) 20:00 druthb If it actually knew that kf and cait were the same person, you'd be third. 20:00 cait some people gave both karma... so we will never be able to figure it out :) 20:01 jcamins_away @karma kf 20:01 huginn jcamins_away: Karma for "kf" has been increased 219 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 219. 20:01 jcamins_away @karma cait 20:01 huginn jcamins_away: Karma for "cait" has been increased 343 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 342. 20:01 jcamins_away I thought your karma had been combined. 20:01 jcamins_away @karma jcamins_away 20:01 huginn jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins_away" has been increased 20 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 20. 20:01 * druthb thinks they should be. 20:34 jcamins_away wtf? 20:35 * jcamins_away leaves 20:39 drojf lol if that is the answer he should work on the question 20:40 * drojf wonders where to find the percentage of perl in the picture 20:54 drojf i kicked the squeeze (now 3.10) repo out of http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze and left only oldstable (3.8) in. i'm not doing anything more to that page (like set up Koha_3.10_on_Debian_Squeeze for now as 3.10 packages are broken 21:04 libsysguy @karma libsysguy 21:04 huginn libsysguy: Karma for "libsysguy" has been increased 31 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 31. 21:04 libsysguy @karma jcamins 21:04 huginn libsysguy: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 462 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 460. 21:17 drojf @karma drojf 21:17 huginn drojf: Karma for "drojf" has been increased 51 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 49. 21:20 libsysguy argh drojf you win again 21:20 libsysguy this one should be good: 21:20 libsysguy @karma rangi 21:20 huginn libsysguy: Karma for "rangi" has been increased 711 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 706. 21:20 libsysguy darn, I was hoping it was OVER 9000!!!! 21:21 cait are you too playing a game here? 21:22 libsysguy maybeee 21:23 cait you 2 21:23 libsysguy can't take us anywhere 21:23 cait can never get too/to/2 right 21:23 cait hmpf 21:23 libsysguy heh 21:23 libsysguy well if you are talking about the band it's U2 21:23 libsysguy :p 21:24 cait lol 21:24 cait I think i tmight be time to go to sleep :) 21:24 cait bye #koha 21:25 drojf [off] lousy workshop participants, not doing the evaluation survey immediately after i sent it out on a friday afternoon :P 21:26 libsysguy [off] damn them 21:26 drojf [off] right?! 22:55 rangi we know what broke the unit tests in master eh? 22:57 rangi acbfe26c9ef6e40f4509babd6e1d39e1762e13e3 22:57 rangi in case ppl are wondering 22:59 libsysguy who's commit id is that 22:59 rangi ah yep, there is a patch for it, just signed off 23:00 libsysguy git blame 23:00 wahanui git blame is handy, but it's just one tool in our debugging arsenal 23:00 libsysguy git blame 23:00 wahanui git blame is handy, but it's just one tool in our debugging arsenal 23:00 libsysguy git point --finger? 23:01 rangi blame isnt really useful for anything imho 23:01 rangi i dont care who broke something, i care who will fix it 23:01 libsysguy i know, but its fun to say 23:01 rangi yep 23:02 rangi bug 7919 23:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7919 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Display of values depending on the connexion library (authorised values, patron categories, extended attributes) 23:02 rangi easy qa on that libsysguy :) 23:02 libsysguy heh 23:02 rangi before the patch the unit tests explode 23:02 libsysguy I've got my eye set on a project of a different kind atm 23:02 rangi after they pass 23:02 libsysguy :p 23:02 rangi and it only touches the test file 23:03 libsysguy oh fine you talked me into it 23:03 libsysguy :p 23:03 rangi it will allow the packages to build again, so easy fix for an annoying problem 23:07 libsysguy done 23:07 rangi ta 23:07 rangi libsysguy++ 23:08 libsysguy np 23:08 libsysguy I needed a little break 23:26 tcohen whats broken? 23:26 wahanui broken is not what we want. 23:33 drojf [off] the World Intellectual Property Organization is using koha? some people should not be allowed to use free software 23:34 drojf [off] oh, "koha 2.2 supported by liblime" 23:34 jcamins_away [off] What? 23:35 drojf [off] http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaUsers/Europe 23:35 drojf [off] switzerland 23:35 jcamins_away Ah. 23:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7919' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b91dbdc29d66bd2a7a635bf6549b0c964f50d4d> / Bug 7919: Fix unit test (Members_AttributeTypes.t) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3eec0e96ecac50c560640b4525f12adaf36b7122> 23:37 drojf jcamins_away: so far marc in T::T works well for me. i will play more with it tomorrow and sign off if nothing funny is happening 23:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #970 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #966 3 days 9 hr ago) 23:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #246 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 14 days ago) 23:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #246: STILL FAILING in 8 min 19 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/246/ 23:45 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/246/ 23:45 rangi check it out 23:45 rangi I've tried to get it identify problems 23:45 rangi to help people spot the failure cause faster 23:47 rangi also http://jenkins.koha-community.org//plugin/jenkinswalldisplay/walldisplay.html?viewName=Tous&jenkinsUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fjenkins.koha-community.org%2F 23:47 tcohen bye every1, happy weekend 23:48 rangi cya tcohen