Time  Nick         Message
23:59 libsysguy    bag you know where he is hiding his work on bootstrap
23:59 libsysguy    poor wahanui
23:59 wahanui      i guess mtj is a danger to bots everywhere.
23:59 bag          mtj?
23:59 bag          yes
23:59 libsysguy    is mtj mason james?
23:39 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9202 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , TT plugin to allow direct display of MARC::Records
23:39 jcamins      Bug 9202
23:30 tcohen       bye #koha
21:53 tcohen       (pretty rewriting stuff heh)
21:53 tcohen       jcamins, i'll write some tests, i'll try to avoid any tcohen-ism too!
21:51 mveron       Good night #koha
21:47 tcohen       thanks libsysguy
21:47 tcohen       bye chris_n
21:45 chris_n      time to head home; g'evening
21:45 libsysguy    indeed it is
21:45 libsysguy    I feel retarded because I was on #catalyst asking what I could be doing wrong
21:45 chris_n      syntax is a hard taskmaster
21:44 libsysguy    same
21:44 chris_n      been there done that... will probably do it again too :-P
21:44 libsysguy    doh
21:44 libsysguy    tis okay tcohen, I have spent 3 afternoons trying to get logins working for my catalyst port and the problem was my server time was 5 days behind
21:43 tcohen       a full day trying to make dbd::mock work, and the problem was it was an outdated version..
21:40 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9191 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase.pl must have ability to run updates only up to a particular revision
21:40 jcamins      Well, I wrote a patch for bug 9191.
21:39 tcohen       d*mn, sudo cpan DBD::Mock solved ALL my issues
21:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , updatedatabase improvements
21:22 jcamins      kohaversion.pl + bug 7167 = great confusion
21:22 jcamins      Drat.
21:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8849 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Error log generated when not a demo system
21:22 rangi        bug 8849
21:20 jenkins_koha Master_Packages: last build: 146 (7 hr 43 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Master_Packages/146/
21:20 jenkins_koha Koha_master: last build: 965 (8 hr 50 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/965/
21:20 jenkins_koha Koha_Docs_3.8.x: last build: 7 (8 hr 35 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/7/
21:20 jenkins_koha Koha_Docs: last build: 245 (8 hr 35 min ago): FAILURE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/245/
21:20 jenkins_koha Koha_3.8.x: last build: 241 (14 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/241/
21:20 jenkins_koha Koha_3.6.x: last build: 70 (35 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/70/
21:20 jenkins_koha Koha_3.4.x(disabled) : last build: 80 (9 mo 16 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/80/
21:20 jenkins_koha Koha_3.2.x(disabled) : last build: 36 (1 yr 0 mo ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/36/
21:20 jenkins_koha Koha_3.10.x: last build: 27 (13 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/27/
21:20 jenkins_koha 3_8_packages: last build: 171 (13 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/3_8_packages/171/
21:20 jenkins_koha 3_6_Packages(BUILDING: 8 min 8 sec and counting): last build: 25 (5 days 18 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/3_6_Packages/25/
21:20 jenkins_koha status of all projects:
21:20 rangi        !jenkins status
21:19 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in Honiara / Henderson, Solomon Islands is 28.0°C (8:00 AM SBT on December 04, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
21:19 rangi        @wunder honiara
21:17 rangi        hi Marlon
21:11 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9024 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Add additional sample data to German installer
21:11 jenkins_koha liz: Revert "Bug 9024: Add missing sample data to existing files"
21:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #70: SUCCESS in 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/70/
21:10 oleonard     [off] grumble grumble developing in secret grumble
21:03 cait         good night all :)
21:02 cait         :)
21:00 rangi        ahh my trainee has arrived
20:57 drojf        d'oh. testing OAI in 3.8, but changing the settings for mapping in master. yeah for multikoha
20:56 tcohen       good question jcamins
20:55 jcamins      tcohen: and you're sure $tuple->{month} and $tuple->{day} are both defined?
20:55 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @jsicot: "Compte lecteur bientôt disponible sur la version mobile, cool ! #kohails http://t.co/HvRsgCC4"
20:55 tcohen       1;
20:55 tcohen       $day_month_closed_days{ $tuple->{ month } }{ $tuple->{ day } } =
20:55 tcohen       Use of uninitialized value in hash element at Koha/Calendar.pm line 61
20:53 rangi        they are both valid tho i think
20:53 rangi        the refs when passing is a peformance thing
20:52 rangi        but thats a stylistic thing
20:52 cait         :)
20:52 rangi        jcamins: i find it a ton more readable
20:51 jcamins      Even if you're not necessarily passing $variable back.
20:51 tcohen       maybe i need to push values instead of just assigning
20:51 jcamins      rangi: with a hash of a hash, I feel like it's better to have $variable->{key1}->{key2} than $variable{key1}{key2}... is that true?
20:51 tcohen       i guess my problem is with initialization
20:51 tcohen       i'm creating a hash inside the method, and returning a \@ reference
20:50 rangi        you can deref tham and play with them as hashes if you want, but you should always pass them as refs
20:50 rangi        you should always pass refs
20:49 jcamins      rangi would know better than I would, though.
20:48 jcamins      You should be using hashrefs rather than hashes, I think.
20:48 tcohen       think i'll have to reread perltoot
20:48 tcohen       but don't understand what's the difference
20:48 tcohen       I'll just revert that change
20:48 tcohen       i had A in the _init function, moved to B in a separate method, and got this warning
20:47 jcamins      Okay, so the problem is you had (A) but you want something more like (B) and are trying to resolve the warning?
20:47 tcohen       and get this warning
20:47 tcohen       paste
20:47 tcohen       the way you read in my latest parte
20:46 drojf        cait: yes i started to wonder how it would do that on the fly :)
20:46 tcohen       i moved an assignment that lived in the _init function outside of it
20:46 tcohen       hmm, not really
20:45 jcamins      tcohen: does that answer your question?
20:45 cait         maybe check bugzilla to find the bug that introcuded sets
20:45 jcamins      So when you do $self->{whatever} = { 2 => 'stuff' }, the {whatever} key is created.
20:45 cait         s
20:45 cait         drojf: I think there is a job involved in building the set
20:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #70 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:44 jcamins      For hashes, the entry is automatically created.
20:43 jcamins      blessing a variable makes it blessed so that you probably shouldn't be doing any assignments to it.
20:42 pastebot     "tcohen" at pasted "A) $self->{day_month_closed_da" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/300
20:42 tcohen       (a hash or array variable)
20:42 tcohen       does blessing a variable make it safe for assignment without initialization?
20:42 drojf        i thought adding a &set=mysetname would do, but it is empty. maybe my set definition does not work
20:41 jcamins      lol
20:41 drojf        ;)
20:41 * drojf      marks the day in the calendar
20:41 drojf        HA! i found something jcamins does not know
20:40 * jcamins    doesn't know, sorry.
20:39 drojf        OAI question. i can list my sets with ListSets, i can list my records with ListRecords. how do i list the records from a certain set only?
20:36 jcamins      libsysguy: before we could claim that PSGI is safe, it would have to be possible to include nothing but C4::Context in the .psgi file.
20:34 wahanui      interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
20:34 cait         hm interesting
20:34 jcamins      Every my that is not not in a subroutine, yes.
20:33 jcamins      However, that doesn't include anything in BEGIN {} and INIT {} blocks.
20:33 cait         so every my is a possible problem?
20:33 jcamins      Some of those may be POD.
20:33 libsysguy    regex's don't translate :p
20:33 jcamins      I looked for "my" at the very beginning of the line, but not in .t files.
20:33 cait         what does it translate to?
20:32 cait         oh
20:32 jcamins      cait: grep -RE "^my " C4/* | grep -v '.t:'
20:32 jcamins      As do a bunch of other classes that don't need to.
20:31 cait         jcamins: what did you grep for?
20:31 jcamins      Fun fact: C4::ItemCirculationAlertPreference uses AUTOLOAD.
20:31 cait         ops
20:31 jcamins      Ugh.
20:28 jcamins      We hope that at least some of those are in POD.
20:28 libsysguy    nobody likes a smart ass jcamins :p
20:28 libsysguy    ...
20:27 jcamins      libsysguy: you're welcome. I know you wanted an idea of the scope of the problem.
20:27 jcamins      tcohen: very cool.
20:27 tcohen       druthb_away: we'll have news tomorrow (GMT-3)
20:26 pastebot     "tcohen" at pasted "my $holidays_session = DBD::Mo" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/299
20:26 pastebot     "jcamins" at pasted "libsysguy: non-exhaustive list of probable problems for PSGI based on a quick grep" (133 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/298
20:25 jcamins      Intriguing.
20:25 jcamins      Ah.
20:25 jcamins      DBD::Mock::Session? I'm not familiar with that.
20:23 tcohen       moved to testing with DBD::Mock::Session BTW
20:23 jcamins      libsysguy: the other issue, of course, with PSGI is that everything has to work with PSGI.
20:22 jcamins      tcohen: well, yeah, I installed it from packages on my system.
20:22 * tcohen     says 'and so in 12.04' and runs away :-P
20:17 jcamins      Oh, good news: Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxy is available in Wheezy.
20:13 jcamins      I got it down to having host names in only one file.
20:11 libsysguy    [off] I'm all for having a better implementation than our forks
20:11 jcamins      My PSGI configuration is PDN (Pretty Darn Nice), if I say so myself.
20:11 jcamins      [off] agreed
20:11 cait         hi gmcharlt
20:11 * gmcharlt   waves too
20:10 cait         hi wizzyrea
20:10 * wizzyrea   waves
20:09 rangi        [off] lets do it better than the lazy other people
20:09 rangi        that's not our target :)
20:09 rangi        at the moment, you couldnt tell people to use psgi .. only developers could
20:08 rangi        and things that have to be fast, until they can reasonably opt for psgi
20:08 libsysguy    heh
20:08 rangi        at least, dont hit things like circ
20:08 rangi        :)
20:08 rangi        and dont hit them, until they actually have a viable alternative
20:08 rangi        yeah
20:07 libsysguy    rather than a forced hit
20:07 libsysguy    so users that choose apache are willingly taking the hit
20:07 jcamins      Right.
20:07 rangi        then we are in a position to consider phasing out cgi
20:07 libsysguy    and still offering apache
20:07 rangi        then we are back where we are now with apache
20:06 rangi        an init.d script to keep it running, locks, logs etc
20:06 rangi        make the install for plack work as easy as it does now for apache, no editing config files no editing anything
20:06 rangi        not really no
20:06 libsysguy    :p
20:06 libsysguy    so this is like a big catch22
20:05 jcamins      libsysguy: if DBIx::Class gets in I might.
20:03 cait         guess drojf is having connection problems again
20:02 drojf        .
20:00 rangi        you can make that day come sooner by making psgi work out of the box, and with the packages .. as easy as apache does, sooner that happens the sooner we can get rid of it
19:59 libsysguy    maybe one day we can phase out cgi ;)
19:59 libsysguy    even if it is a performance hit now
19:59 libsysguy    I think its an important step forward
19:56 rangi        gotta balance it up, with does the other advantages outweigh the performance hit
19:56 rangi        its significantly more overhead than raw sql
19:56 rangi        you will
19:55 libsysguy    actually paul_p said he saw a performance decrease using DBIx::Class with CGI
19:55 libsysguy    jcamins you're going to use it for pulling db configs?
19:53 cait         yep mveron++
19:51 rangi        mveron++ #signing off patches
19:51 mveron       I had a lot of non-koha work to do... But this evening I want to sign-off some bugs
19:51 jcamins      libsysguy: maybe I'll use DBIx::Class for in-database search configuration.
19:51 mveron       hi cait :-)
19:51 cait         long time no see!
19:51 cait         hi mveron :)
19:50 mveron       :-)
19:50 * libsysguy  has discovered from trolling around other irc rooms that its kind of sad to say hi when you come in and nobody else talk to you
19:50 huginn       mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 1.0°C (8:30 PM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
19:50 mveron       @wunder basel
19:49 mveron       hi libsysguy
19:49 libsysguy    hi mveron
19:49 mveron       Hi #koha
19:46 libsysguy    and I'm not allowed to QA myself
19:46 libsysguy    we need to QA DBIX::Class
19:46 libsysguy    but anyway back to the point
19:46 libsysguy    dude you're so picky lol
19:45 jcamins      And since I'd prefer a format that is not necessarily tied to the language, that won't do.
19:44 libsysguy    http://search.cpan.org/~bricas/Catalyst-Plugin-ConfigLoader-0.30/lib/Catalyst/Plugin/ConfigLoader/Manual.pod#Perl
19:44 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8820 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Don't show orders table if there are no orders
19:44 jcamins      rangi: BTW, any chance I could persuade you to push bug 8820 so it doesn't sit around in the Passed QA queue taunting me?
19:43 wahanui      Ask druthb; she'll serve you a nice plate of roast beef hash.
19:43 druthb       hash?
19:43 jcamins      And Config::General doesn't make sense if you're storing data in the database, IMO.
19:42 libsysguy    mmm breakfash hash
19:42 libsysguy    hash-ception
19:42 druthb       hash is <reply> Ask druthb; she'll serve you a nice plate of roast beef hash.
19:42 druthb       hash?
19:42 jcamins      Not really INI-type data.
19:42 jcamins      Also, I need to store hashes and arrays of hashes.
19:41 jcamins      Well, I hate INI, XML is silly, I have no idea what "Perl" means in this context, and YAML is just JSON with lots of whitespace, so I'll stick with YAML.
19:41 libsysguy    I have been using Config::General
19:41 libsysguy    look to be the top ones
19:41 libsysguy    so in short: INI, JSON, PERL. XML, YAML, and Config::General
19:39 cait         the bot is hilarious, should ask for an autograph sometime
19:38 cait         what I said... best show ever :)
19:38 libsysguy    http://search.cpan.org/~bricas/Catalyst-Plugin-ConfigLoader-0.30/lib/Catalyst/Plugin/ConfigLoader.pm
19:38 libsysguy    haha
19:38 jcamins      lol
19:38 wahanui      the others are too depressing
19:38 libsysguy    there is also that
19:38 jcamins      What are the others?
19:37 jcamins      Cool: http://search.cpan.org/~jlmartin/DBIx-Class-InflateColumn-Serializer-0.03/lib/DBIx/Class/InflateColumn/Serializer/YAML.pm
19:37 libsysguy    there are 3 options and YAML is one
19:37 cait         libsysguy: as long as you remember: tests tests tests and testable small steps ;)
19:37 jcamins      What does Catalyst use in place of YAML?
19:37 * libsysguy  ^^
19:36 libsysguy    has been working with catalyst again and is getting spoiled
19:36 jcamins      We do in some places, and I will be using it also for the search rewrite.
19:36 cait         the prefs?
19:36 cait         we do I think
19:36 libsysguy    we don't use YAML do we?
19:36 libsysguy    hmm, that would be nice
19:36 cait         libsysguy: :)
19:35 jcamins      You know what would be nice? If DBIx::Class came with built-in YAML parsing bits.
19:35 libsysguy    Anna wonders why I have so much fun at work
19:35 cait         best show ever
19:34 * cait       loves #koha
19:34 * libsysguy  takes a bow
19:34 cait         lol
19:34 jcamins      Well done.
19:34 libsysguy    ^^ like that?
19:34 libsysguy    hey guys I think we should take a really close look at DBIX::Class for database agnosticism
19:34 jcamins      Yes.
19:34 libsysguy    so is this the point where I should jump in and advocate for DBIx::Class?
19:33 jcamins      [off] lol
19:33 libsysguy    [off] well now that mbalmer is gone do we have to? :p
19:32 jcamins      We don't use Postgres.
19:32 jcamins      No, the one that Evergreen uses.
19:32 libsysguy    the one we wrote?
19:32 jcamins      Complex is the Postgres driver.
19:31 libsysguy    heh
19:31 libsysguy    oh well there, simple
19:31 jcamins      Yes, it is a mapping table.
19:31 libsysguy    op= something
19:31 * jcamins    adds for rambutan's benefit that simple != easy!
19:31 libsysguy    it almost looked like a mapping table
19:30 jcamins      It's embarrassingly simple.
19:30 libsysguy    but that's probably just my unfamiliarity with terms
19:30 jcamins      It's not.
19:30 jcamins      (also, after two days fighting with it, I came to the unhappy conclusion that it wouldn't work under Squeeze without an act of god and major compiling from source code)
19:30 libsysguy    at least the PQF stuff does
19:30 libsysguy    and it looks…complex
19:29 libsysguy    I have been poking through your search rewrite
19:28 jcamins      And the configuration is almost exactly equivalent to GRS-1, which we ditched because it didn't allow us to do things like search by availability.
19:28 libsysguy    i kid i kid
19:27 libsysguy    its just authorities jcamins who uses those horrible things :p
19:27 jcamins      I'm not sure. It's missing all support for authorities.
19:27 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @ranginui: "@shlew @tararobertson the Hawaii state archives use #kohails .. you should go tell them they want me to fly over for um training :)"
19:27 libsysguy    is it missing facet searching?
19:27 libsysguy    heh
19:27 jcamins      There we go.
19:27 jcamins      It is usable, but not if you want a fully-featured catalog.
19:26 jcamins      Okay, that's not quite fair either.
19:26 cait         I have a hard time imagining that
19:26 jcamins      It is not usable.
19:26 cait         rangi yelling...
19:26 jcamins      It works.
19:26 jcamins      No, that's not fair.
19:26 jcamins      libsysguy: it doesn't work.
19:26 libsysguy    meh there are a thousand copies of master rangi :p
19:26 jcamins      libsysguy: there is Solr code.
19:26 jcamins      rangi: I feel better using my archive-branch git alias.
19:26 rangi        but the first time you accidentally delete master would be the time i yell :)
19:25 libsysguy    so I haven't heard anything about the progress of Solr, I have seen some stuff poping up in the codebase though
19:25 rangi        if you were insane you could even use xargs and automate it
19:25 rangi        yeah its not to bad
19:25 rangi        sweet
19:24 jcamins      Okay, now I know how to do it.
19:14 rangi        i think so
19:14 jcamins      Probably all the new/awaiting_qa/* branches can be moved to the archive.
19:12 rangi        https://twitter.com/ranginui/status/275677786008612864
19:12 cait         yay
19:11 rangi        thats what i said
19:11 cait         hm we are making it a free conference.
19:11 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @tararobertson: "@ranginui hey, what does #kohails community do to reduce costs for people from developing countries to attend your conference?"
19:11 cait         now I have entertained you enough, go write the bug! :P
19:10 drojf        lol
19:10 cait         oh well... 50%
19:10 drojf        ah yes it was slides
19:10 cait         dirndl?
19:10 wahanui      kf should be writing slides
19:10 cait         slides?
19:10 drojf        dirndl and slides are missing ;)
19:10 wahanui      thanks cait :)
19:10 cait         wahanui botsnack cookie
19:10 wahanui      kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert.
19:10 drojf        kf?
19:10 drojf        hahaha
19:10 wahanui      rumour has it cait is qam, not your secretary
19:10 cait         cait?
19:09 cait         nope
19:09 jcamins      Certainly not by me. :P
19:09 drojf        cait: by you? that's so nice :)
19:09 cait         drojf: sounds like a bug report is going to be filed
19:09 jcamins      :)
19:09 drojf        ok
19:09 jcamins      As I said, you're not imagining it, but there's no good reason.
19:08 drojf        defining a set of all not-suppressed records (942$n = 0) is not possible like that
19:08 jcamins      drojf: valid in the sense of "you're not imagining it," probably. Valid in the sense of "reasonable," no.
19:07 drojf        is there a valid reason why i cannot use 0 as a value in an OAI-PMH mapping? it seems like 0 is interpreted as "empty" and the mapping deleted
19:07 rangi        cool
19:06 jcamins      Thanks!
19:06 jcamins      Yup, that worked.
19:06 rangi        try that
19:04 rangi        2 secs
19:04 rangi        ahh could well be
19:04 jcamins      Or I did it wrong.
19:04 jcamins      Hm. Looks like I don't have permission to delete the new/* branches.
19:03 rangi        and you can git branch -D it locally if you want (i kept my local copy, cos im paranoid)
19:02 rangi        git push gitmaster@git.koha-community.org:koha.git :new/bug2567
19:01 rangi        then
19:01 rangi        then check its there by doing a git fetch or by looking at http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha-archive.git;a=summary
19:00 jcamins      Got it.
19:00 jcamins      Ah.
19:00 rangi        makes the delete bit easier
19:00 rangi        id call it new/bug2567
18:59 rangi        git push gitmaster@git.koha-community.org:koha-archive.git your_branch
18:59 rangi        then
18:58 rangi        yep
18:58 jcamins      ?
18:58 jcamins      So: git checkout -b bug2567 kc/new/bug2567
18:58 rangi        eg new/bug2567 is old
18:58 rangi        checkout your branch locally
18:57 jcamins      Done.
18:56 rangi        add a remote for the archive repo
18:53 * jcamins    listens eagerly.
18:52 magnuse      guten abend cait
18:52 rangi        jcamins: ok, so pushing to the archive
18:52 cait         hi magnuse :)
18:51 wahanui      i think magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
18:51 rangi        heya magnuse
18:50 magnuse      kia ora rangi!
18:50 rangi        jcamins: closing 9066 sounds good to me, im probably not going to try porting any more plack fixes to 3.8.x
18:41 rangi        Bbiab
18:41 jcamins      And by "refresher" I mean "tell me for the first time."
18:41 rangi        Righto
18:39 jcamins      rangi: when you get back from getting coffee, could you give me a brief refresher on how to move branches to koha-archive?
18:23 chris_n      hey rangi
18:19 tcohen       morning rangi
18:18 wahanui      Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
18:18 rangi        Morning
18:17 tcohen       vim++
18:04 * chris_n    yells "vim rules" and quickly runs away :-)
17:24 libsysguy    one of the many reasons I don't miss c/c++
17:23 libsysguy    uuu a segfault
17:23 jcamins      Also, I think they may have fixed the segfault I just encountered.
17:22 jcamins      libsysguy: @attr 5=2 and @attr 5=3 for ICU.
17:22 libsysguy    ;)
17:22 libsysguy    s/we/jcamins/
17:22 libsysguy    that we care about**
17:22 libsysguy    what is coming with that version?
17:21 jcamins      Zebra 2.0.53 was released.
17:21 jcamins      YES!!!
17:08 cait         ;)
17:08 drojf        faster
17:08 drojf        cait was faser
17:08 drojf        lol jcamins. it's …
17:08 cait         jcamins: Herr Professor Doktor... :)
17:08 gaetan_B     bye
17:03 * jcamins    thinks Herr Doktor Professor is a better title. :)
16:59 cait         yeah, i thought you would
16:59 drojf        dr. drojf. i like that
16:58 drojf        :)
16:58 cait         lol
16:58 cait         hi drojf
16:58 cait         drojf:
16:58 cait         hi dr
16:57 drojf        hola cait
16:57 drojf        thanks jcamins
16:56 wahanui      i guess item type is set correctly in items
16:56 jcamins      Or item type.
16:56 jcamins      If your regular staff just walk over to pick it up you can make it a location.
16:56 jcamins      *yes
16:56 jcamins      If you have staff off-site, y es.
16:56 jcamins      It depends.
16:54 drojf        to use that in koha, would i open a new branch for it and then transfer to the main branch?
16:52 drojf        thanks
16:51 jcamins      Archive or off-site storage.
16:51 drojf        or just archive maybe
16:51 drojf        is magazine the english word for the non-public place in (or outside) the library where you store books? or what is that called?
16:49 vfernandes   ok thanks...
16:46 jcamins      You could write your own lookup function in the custom XSLT, but I can't think of any other options.
16:44 drojf        oh it's for koha location codes in vufind
16:43 vfernandes   ok that's difficult :/
16:42 jcamins      I would do the mapping on the harvester.
16:42 jcamins      You can't do that only with XSLT.
16:42 jcamins      I see.
16:42 drojf        can't you do that at the receiving end? i think i saw that in vufind yesterday
16:42 vfernandes   I've do a little modification to OAI xslt
16:41 vfernandes   I want to pass in the OAI the correct document type which is the 942$c but if I access it directly I only obtain the code
16:40 wahanui      "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?"
16:40 jcamins      vfernandes: first question?
16:40 rambutan     +1 public relations manager
16:40 vfernandes   using XSLT
16:39 vfernandes   How I can transform one 942$c code to the description?
16:34 nengard      i write the press for bywater
16:34 nengard      kf i can do that if you think everyone would like
16:32 drojf        or worse, you can, if it is on order. so they tried to build on that and it does not work
16:31 drojf        i had a library ask at the workshop. i think that is what they actually want to do, but they did some things with not for loan and that does obviously not work. because you cannot put stuff on hold that is not for loan ;)
16:30 gaetan_B     drojf: you might want to define hourly loans also
16:30 jcamins      One is to check items out to the patron, one is to check items out to the reading room.
16:29 jcamins      There are two ways.
16:29 jcamins      drojf: that's very common.
16:29 drojf        is checking out books only to the library reading room (and not to take home) a thing outside of germany? i wonder how you do that in koha
16:27 drojf        we should have a public relations manager
16:27 drojf        ah
16:27 kf           no, I meant he does not put it in his news if you don't send him sth
16:27 drojf        have fun in the snow kf
16:26 drojf        you mean he does not read 48 pages of koha release notes? what a lazy person
16:26 kf           ok, now I leave for tody - bye all
16:26 kf           with altered release notes if necessary ;)
16:26 kf           a bit late now maybe, but it would still be good I think
16:26 kf           shouldn't we write a press release and send that to marshall breeding about 3.10?
16:26 kf           wondering about something else
16:26 kf           hm
16:23 drojf        it should not be in there if it does not exist :)
16:22 nengard      but that the release notes confused me
16:22 nengard      yeah it makes good sense
16:22 drojf        i think paul_p did not like to have two new sysprefs (comment 9)
16:20 nengard      nevermind me - actually it does have new options
16:20 nengard      so maybe that pref never made it in
16:19 nengard      that's for showing the patron where they are in the queue, not for showing the number of holds in the opac
16:19 nengard      or earlier
16:19 nengard      that was there in 3.6 i think
16:19 nengard      wait, that was the old pref
16:19 nengard      oh!
16:19 drojf        nengard: i see OPACShowHoldQueueDetails in the patch, no OPACShowHoldsCount?!
16:09 reiveune     bye
16:06 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7398 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Show number of holds on a title in the OPAC details
16:06 nengard      bug 7398
16:05 nengard      both were upgrades - not new installs
16:05 nengard      ideas?
16:05 nengard      the 3.10 release notes talks about a new system preference: OPACShowHoldsCount  but it's not in my install of master or 3.10 stable
15:48 tcohen       jcamins, can I send you two files so u look at them? I'm sutck
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15:23 JesseM       Hi kf
15:23 kf           hi JesseM
15:16 kf           working on it
15:16 drojf        have you wished hard enough?
15:15 kf           I could use some advice of the master UI designer....
15:15 huginn       kf: Quote #66: "<paul_p> shame on koha, mySQL & user !" (added by jwagner at 03:39 PM, March 04, 2010)
15:15 kf           @quote random
14:55 wahanui      i already had it that way, huginn.
14:55 huginn       druthb: Quote #166: "jcamins: this is IRC. There's a several decade long tradition of lurking." (added by wizzyrea at 03:06 PM, November 17, 2011)
14:55 druthb       @quote random
14:54 huginn       gmcharlt: Quote #81: "<owen> Free beer *and* free puppy, but be careful: the puppy is drunk." (added by druthb at 01:47 PM, June 28, 2010)
14:54 gmcharlt     @quote random
14:54 libsysguy    it certainly makes troubleshooting much easier
14:53 jcamins      I think the best is probably the CSS-only one.
14:53 libsysguy    there really is no right or wrong way
14:53 libsysguy    ALL THE OPTIONS
14:52 jcamins      There are many options.
14:52 libsysguy    there is usually a class to add display:none;
14:52 jcamins      Or just change the CSS to hide .no-image.
14:52 libsysguy    probably whatever there is already in the stylesheet
14:52 libsysguy    but I would prefer to add a delete or a hide clas
14:52 nengard      instead of .remove();
14:52 libsysguy    well .remove will work
14:52 nengard      .addClass("delete");
14:52 nengard      i should use something else
14:51 nengard      libsysguy, so i shouldn't use what i put there
14:51 libsysguy    famous last words
14:51 jcamins      Might even be preferable.
14:51 jcamins      libsysguy: that'd work too.
14:51 * libsysguy  generally goes with the hide class
14:50 jcamins      And yes.
14:50 jcamins      libsysguy: yes.
14:50 libsysguy    is that what you were going for?
14:50 libsysguy    doesn't that remove all elements with that classname?
14:50 nengard      adding to wiki
14:50 nengard      bingo
14:50 nengard      $('.no-image').remove();
14:49 libsysguy    or something like that
14:49 libsysguy    $("#elementid").addClass("delete");
14:48 wahanui      i think jquery api reference is http://api.jquery.com/
14:48 jcamins      jquery api reference?
14:48 jcamins      jQuery API reference is http://api.jquery.com/
14:48 jcamins      jquery API reference?
14:48 nengard      I'll try
14:48 nengard      thanks
14:48 nengard      thans
14:48 nengard      I know copy and paste when it comes to Jquery
14:48 jcamins      .remove or .delete or something.
14:48 nengard      how do I do that? :)
14:47 jcamins      Or, perhaps easier, delete .no-image elements.
14:46 jcamins      I think you just remove the css property.
14:46 nengard      'none' didn't work
14:46 nengard      hehe
14:45 * jcamins    thought you were asking how to not add an image.
14:45 nengard      haven't tested it yet
14:45 nengard      I changed the url bit to 'none'
14:45 nengard      :)
14:45 jcamins      I see what you mean.
14:45 jcamins      Ohh.
14:45 nengard      in this case
14:45 nengard      if i don't use it it puts in the 'no image found' thingy from amazon
14:45 jcamins      nengard: don't use it.
14:43 pastebot     "tcohen" at pasted "the whole code" (97 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/296
14:43 nengard      jcamins how do i alter this : http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library#Add_a_bookplate_when_cover_images_are_not_found to show no image at all if no cover is found?
14:42 jcamins      When is Koha::Calendar->new called?
14:41 libsysguy    when the object is initialized
14:41 tcohen       from the Koha::Calendar->new
14:40 jcamins      When does _init get called?
14:40 jcamins      That's because you have a use_ok at the top, I think.
14:39 tcohen       i just couldn't mock the SQL queries/resulsets from Koha::Calendar->_init()
14:39 libsysguy    jcamins is the one with the real experience using DBD::Mock, I'm just getting started
14:38 pastebot     "tcohen" at pasted "actually" (64 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/295
14:38 tcohen       my $module = new Test::MockModule('C4::Context');
14:38 tcohen       yes, I used that too
14:38 libsysguy    take a look at that
14:38 pastebot     "tcohen" at pasted "dbh setup" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/294
14:38 pastebot     "tcohen" at pasted "First attempt" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/293
14:38 tcohen       no, that's my second attempt
14:38 libsysguy    are you using MockModule too??
14:38 tcohen       libsysguy, i'm just trying to mock data that otherwise should come from the DB
14:38 gerundio     this could be a could flagship for Koha on Europe
14:38 gerundio     where they refer "Public libraries, e.g. catalogues and search tools" as one of the types of government sites
14:38 jcamins      gerundio: our feeling is that it is absolutely necessary, and there is an expert at Catalyst working on it.
14:38 gerundio     I was reading this article http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/03/european-commission-wants-single-set-of-website-accessibility-rules-to-apply-to-government-sites-by-2015/
14:38 gerundio     but there's not much info there
14:38 libsysguy    as far as ADA compliance?
14:38 gerundio     I've gone through http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Accessibility
14:30 gerundio     hi, what's Koha's take on accessibility?
14:29 libsysguy    tcohen what are you trying to make it do?
14:21 oleonard     jcamins++ # for marking bugs fixed
14:18 tcohen       but couldnt make it work
14:18 tcohen       tried using mock_add_resultset
14:17 tcohen       not enough coffee i guess
14:12 jcamins      Why not?
14:05 tcohen       what bothers me is that i couldn't find a proper way of using dbd::mock so the Calendar.pm code remains untouched
14:05 jcamins      Yes.
14:04 jcamins      tcohen: I'm looking now.
14:04 jcamins      ^^ ah-ha!
14:04 tcohen       jcamins, is that ok?
14:04 wahanui      oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
14:04 jcamins      oleonard?
14:04 * druthb     looks innocent.
14:04 wahanui      oleonard is, like, not really here.  He said so.  He did
14:04 druthb       wahanui: oleonard?
14:02 pastebot     "tcohen" at pasted "## Mock Koha::Calendar->_read_" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/292
14:02 druthb       owho?
14:02 tcohen       #koha, what do u think of this kind of mocking?
13:58 * jcamins    wonders if oleonard is in Spain.
13:55 * kf         pretends to not notice oleonard
13:54 * oleonard   isn't really here
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13:41 jcamins      No idea.
13:41 kf           how many before you started?
13:40 jcamins      Only 554 bugs left that are marked Pushed.
13:38 jcamins      That was very cathartic.
13:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9012 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Allow bulkmarcimport to specify a framework code when importing MARC
13:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8893 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , show more information on printout
13:36 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 9012 - --framework option for bulkmarcimport
13:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9135 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , updatedatabase.pl fails when DEBUG is set
13:36 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8893 [Follow-up] show more information on printout
13:36 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8893 - show more information on printout
13:36 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9135: updatedatabase.pl fails when DEBUG is set
13:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #965: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/965/
13:35 * jcamins    RESOLVES a bunch of bugs.
13:24 drojf        kf: there might me a twist somewhere :)
13:24 kf           overcast just turned in heavy snow
13:23 kf           drojf:  it sounds like the the story is alread given in the title :P
13:23 huginn       kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0°C (2:00 PM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
13:23 kf           @wunder Konstanz
13:23 jcamins      lol
13:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8908 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Starman/Plack hangs when faced with zombie Zebra
13:22 drojf        jcamins: bug 8908 sounds like it would make a great movie
13:21 drojf        damn internet connection
13:20 kf           wb drojf
13:15 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8908 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Starman/Plack hangs when faced with zombie Zebra
13:15 jcamins      Bug 8908 has a nice subject.
13:10 kf           hm
13:10 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9066 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , VirtualShelves database access not Plack + MariaDB compatible
13:10 kf           bug 9066
13:10 wahanui      ...but i'll give you the answer just as soon as rda is <reply>...
13:10 huginn       wahanui: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
13:10 wahanui      huginn is a bot too veera, not a person
13:10 kf           huginn?
13:01 huginn       jcamins: The operation succeeded.
13:01 jcamins      @later tell rangi Bug 9066 might be a candidate for backporting to 3.8. If not, I'd like to close the bug.
13:00 magnuse      jcamins++
12:59 jcamins      Has anyone noticed that my rate of bug reporting has gone from "high" to "insane"?
12:59 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9191 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, NEW , updatedatabase.pl must have ability to run updates only up to a particular revision
12:59 jcamins      Bug 9191
12:57 vfernandes   I've done a new test with a record which all items have the same library and I worked as I said before... If 1 items of X items are checked out I can place a hold
12:57 jcamins      True.
12:57 jcamins      Heh.
12:56 kf           and there might be reasons for that :)
12:56 kf           I think there was a holds rewrite in the works...
12:55 jcamins      I mostly deal with single libraries as well.
12:54 kf           jcamins: and I agree with you, I am just not sure if this a changed behaviour or has been like that for a long time
12:54 kf           I am not sure, I mostly deal with single libraries or with libraries to far apart to allow transports
12:52 jcamins      I think it used to work differently.
12:52 jcamins      kf: that's certainly not how I understood the holds system to work.
12:51 kf           addings some notes to the bug - wizzyrea might be able to say more about this
12:50 kf           I suspect it might be koha's stnadard behaviour
12:50 vfernandes   same branch I think but I can do some more tests
12:49 jcamins      vfernandes: are the books that aren't checked out at different branches?
12:49 jcamins      kf: oooh, good point.
12:48 kf           transports and such
12:48 kf           because you have to think multidimensional... lots of branches being involved
12:48 kf           so it's not as simple as all checked out or not checked out
12:48 kf           or on all branches
12:47 kf           vfernandes: the problem is, all items at your branch
12:47 kf           vfernandes: hm I think I remember something
12:46 vfernandes   :/
12:46 jcamins      kf: exactly.
12:46 kf           you should only be able to place a hold on the checked out item for item level - I think
12:45 kf           then.... it is an evil bug if we are talking about title level holds
12:45 kf           hm ok
12:45 jcamins      kf: we already set AllowOnShelfHolds to "Don't allow."
12:45 vfernandes   ?
12:45 vfernandes   should I change it to enhacenment
12:45 kf           vfernandes: hmm, it may have something to do with allowonshelfholds
12:44 jenkins_koha nengard: update biblioaddsauthorities faq
12:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #7: SUCCESS in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/7/
12:44 jenkins_koha nengard: update biblioaddsauthorities faq
12:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #245: STILL FAILING in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/245/
12:44 kf           vfernandes: actually it's not a bug I think
12:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #7 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #245 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 9 days ago)
12:44 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9190 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Problem with holds - allow place a hold without all items checked out
12:44 vfernandes   bug 9190
12:39 jcamins      Please do.
12:39 vfernandes   can I open a Bug with this problem?
12:38 tcohen       morning #koha
12:38 jcamins      Definitely a bug.
12:37 jcamins      Bug.
12:37 vfernandes   OpacItemHolds = "don't allow"
12:37 jcamins      (OpacItemHolds)
12:36 jcamins      If you have item-level holds disabled, it's a bug.
12:36 jcamins      It isn't if you have item-level holds enabled.
12:35 vfernandes   jcamins this is a bug?
12:35 vfernandes   If 1 items of X items are checked out I can place a hold, which isn't what I pretend
12:34 vfernandes   If all items are checked out I can place a hold, which is fine
12:33 vfernandes   results: If there isn't any checked out items I can't place a hold, which is fine
12:30 vfernandes   now I'll test if I only can reserve with all items checked out
12:29 vfernandes   I'm using a test database so maybe the pref was disable
12:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #965 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:28 jcamins      The stock update definitely does not change the syspref.
12:27 jcamins      No.
12:27 vfernandes   the update changed the value of this pref... it's normal?
12:26 jcamins      3.0.
12:26 wahanui      jcamins: I forgot 3.2
12:26 jcamins      wahanui: forget 3.2
12:25 wahanui      3.2 is a stable version and is not supposed to have entering a lot of new syspref
12:25 jcamins      3.2?
12:25 vfernandes   yes, I changed the pref and now I can reserve :) this pref was added in which version?
12:24 jcamins      That also wouldn't do what you want, but at least it's not an invalid configuration.
12:24 vfernandes   as should be as "specific item"
12:23 vfernandes   sorry as set as "Biblio record"
12:23 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9012 - --framework option for bulkmarcimport <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d0bdbce59052abbab348d87ef2975f7b0222478> / Bug 8893 [Follow-up] show more information on printout <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1a773e95b7fce92ef3a7425052667b3e1f1d768> / Bug 8893 - show more information on printout <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdi
12:23 jcamins      That shouldn't be possible, but that would definitely break all kinds of things.
12:23 jcamins      Ooooh.
12:23 jcamins      Yay!
12:23 vfernandes   item-level_itypes was empty
12:23 vfernandes   I found the root of holds problems in my installation
12:14 vfernandes   :)
12:09 kf           but it will speed up things once it's done...
12:08 kf           lol
12:08 jcamins      vfernandes: you can go for a walk, having a coffee, have lunch, take a nap, have tea, go for a run, have dinner, dawdle over dessert, clean up, and watch a film!
12:07 vfernandes   I can go for a walk because remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl only processed 6000 items of 78000 :P
12:07 * jcamins    tries to come up with a good record.
12:06 jcamins      I need a record to import using bulkmarcimport.pl.
12:05 jcamins      vfernandes: it does a similar thing.
12:05 vfernandes   this script is slow :P
11:54 jcamins      (53k -> ~300)
11:53 jcamins      Deduplicating 53k fields is slow.
11:53 kf           heh :)
11:53 jcamins      That and grouching at people.
11:53 jcamins      That's what I'm here for.
11:52 kf           how annoying
11:52 kf           I must have missed it
11:52 kf           it comes with the default sample configuration
11:52 kf           hm using the authorized value it's always 0/1
11:51 jcamins      kf: it probably depends how yes/no is stored.
11:51 vfernandes   thank jcamins :)
11:51 jcamins      That's about it, though.
11:50 jcamins      vfernandes: reindex.
11:50 kf           or at least I thought I did
11:50 kf           jcamins: weird, i had tested with yes/no 0/1
11:50 vfernandes   my memory today is not good...
11:49 vfernandes   we have to do something more?
11:49 vfernandes   that's it
11:48 jcamins      remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl
11:48 vfernandes   I forgot the name of the script :P
11:48 jcamins      Sorry.
11:48 jcamins      Oh, which.
11:48 jcamins      Yes.
11:48 vfernandes   when upgrading to koha 3.2 to koha 3.8 we should run which script to pass MARCXML to items?
11:47 vfernandes   hi :)
11:46 magnuse      ah, thanks for trying
11:44 jcamins      Oh, no, it's for music.
11:43 jcamins      Lemme find it.
11:43 jcamins      Yes, but not in 7xx.
11:42 magnuse      one norwegian ils uses marc field 792 to keep track of roles in a play e.g. $k2$m3 = 2 female roles and 3 male roles. is there anything similar in marc21?
11:41 jcamins      Good idea.
11:41 jcamins      magnuse: the rule is "don't change behavior out from under people," but when a feature has no practical implications without further configuration, that's not really an issue.
11:39 magnuse      maybe ad it to the agenda for the next meeting?
11:38 magnuse      i think it started out as "don't change things for people unless they want it". we might have come to a point where lots of people want it, so we might want to consider making it the default...
11:38 drojf        and socialsomething facebooktwitterwhatever should be off :(
11:35 kf           if we are having this discussion now :)
11:35 kf           enhancedmessaging should be default on too I think
11:35 jcamins      *not changing
11:35 jcamins      I am a strong believer in changing behavior out from under people, but it doesn't do anything unless you add some attributes, does it?
11:34 kf           because it has always been I think
11:33 jcamins      Why do we have ExtendedPatronAttributes disabled by default?
11:32 kf           breakfast for RMs
11:31 jcamins      :)
11:31 * kf         hands jcamins cookies and tea
11:30 kf           hi jcamins
11:30 drojf        good morning jcamins
11:26 jcamins      Good morning, #koha.
10:39 huginn       drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 0.8°C (11:13 AM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
10:39 drojf        @wunder berlin, germany
10:35 drojf        paul_p: ok
10:35 paul_p       drojf = nope, at a meeting (all the day)
10:35 magnuse      paul_p: that sounds like a good idea :-)
10:34 drojf        hey paul_p got a minute?
10:25 * paul_p     head to Athens at the end of the week ;-) (for business, but also a week-end for pleasure)
10:25 huginn       paul_p: The current temperature in Argyroupoli, Greece is 19.9°C (11:35 AM EET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling).
10:25 paul_p       @wunder Athens, greece
10:19 magnuse      good plan :-)
10:17 kf           yup: I'd rather stay in the warmth
10:17 magnuse      yup
10:15 drojf        wow that's cold
10:15 drojf        hei magnuse
10:15 magnuse      they had -30 this night...
10:15 magnuse      kf: a place where you go if you want to go skiiing
10:15 magnuse      hi drojf
10:15 drojf        hi #koha
10:15 * drojf      giggles at 'geilo'
10:13 kf           magnuse: skisenter?
09:56 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Aal Skisenter bunnstasjon, Aal, Norway is -17.5°C (10:55 AM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -23.0°C. Windchill: -18.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
09:56 magnuse      @wunder geilo, norway
09:04 paul_p       hello magnuse & kf
09:04 kf           hi paul_p
09:01 magnuse      hiya paul_p
09:01 magnuse      success! \o/
08:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Add information warning about log-in as root user to About->System information
08:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9123 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Authorities search ordered by authid does not work
08:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8781 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Access to Transfer page while "independent branches" is on
08:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Divide budget periods into two tabs
08:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9134 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , There is no previous link on the second page of the search results page
08:41 jenkins_koha * melia: Bug 8641 [Follow up]-Reword warning about log-in as root user to About-System information
08:41 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8641 [Follow-up] Add warning about log-in as root user to About page
08:41 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9123: Authorities search ordered by authid does not work
08:41 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 8781: hiding of transfer page when it's useless
08:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9168 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Software error when filtering in receipt summary
08:41 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8117 [Follow-up] Divide budget periods into two tabs
08:41 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9134: There is no previous link on the second page of the search results page
08:41 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9168: Software error when filtering in receipt summary (followup)
08:41 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9168: Software error when filtering in receipt summary
08:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #27: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/27/
08:26 magnuse      sort of cold in marseille?
08:25 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0°C (8:50 AM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
08:25 magnuse      @wunder boo
08:25 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 5.0°C (9:00 AM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
08:25 magnuse      @wunder marseille
08:25 sophie_m     hi magnuse
08:25 kf           hi all :)
08:25 magnuse      hiya marcelr Manderso1 gaetan_B sophie_m and kf
08:11 wahanui      what's up, gaetan_B
08:11 gaetan_B     hello
07:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #27 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:58 marcelr      hi #koha
07:54 magnuse      success! \o/
07:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9123 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Authorities search ordered by authid does not work
07:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8781 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Access to Transfer page while "independent branches" is on
07:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9134 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , There is no previous link on the second page of the search results page
07:52 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9123: Authorities search ordered by authid does not work
07:52 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 8781: hiding of transfer page when it's useless
07:52 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9134: There is no previous link on the second page of the search results page
07:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #241: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/241/
07:46 laurence     hi magnuse
07:46 alex_a       bonjour #koha
07:44 cait         hi magnuse
07:44 magnuse      hiya julian_m reiveune laurence cait
07:43 reiveune     bonjour cait, magnuse, everybody :)
07:42 cait         hi reiveune
07:39 reiveune     hello
07:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #241 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:14 cait         good morning #koha