Time  Nick         Message
06:14 cait         good morning #koha
07:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #241 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:39 reiveune     hello
07:42 cait         hi reiveune
07:43 reiveune     bonjour cait, magnuse, everybody :)
07:44 magnuse      hiya julian_m reiveune laurence cait
07:44 cait         hi magnuse
07:46 alex_a       bonjour #koha
07:46 laurence     hi magnuse
07:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #241: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/241/
07:52 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9134: There is no previous link on the second page of the search results page
07:52 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 8781: hiding of transfer page when it's useless
07:52 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9123: Authorities search ordered by authid does not work
07:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9134 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , There is no previous link on the second page of the search results page
07:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8781 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Access to Transfer page while "independent branches" is on
07:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9123 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Authorities search ordered by authid does not work
07:54 magnuse      success! \o/
07:58 marcelr      hi #koha
07:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #27 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:11 gaetan_B     hello
08:11 wahanui      what's up, gaetan_B
08:25 magnuse      hiya marcelr Manderso1 gaetan_B sophie_m and kf
08:25 kf           hi all :)
08:25 sophie_m     hi magnuse
08:25 magnuse      @wunder marseille
08:25 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 5.0°C (9:00 AM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
08:25 magnuse      @wunder boo
08:25 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0°C (8:50 AM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
08:26 magnuse      sort of cold in marseille?
08:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #27: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/27/
08:41 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9168: Software error when filtering in receipt summary
08:41 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9168: Software error when filtering in receipt summary (followup)
08:41 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9134: There is no previous link on the second page of the search results page
08:41 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8117 [Follow-up] Divide budget periods into two tabs
08:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9168 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Software error when filtering in receipt summary
08:41 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 8781: hiding of transfer page when it's useless
08:41 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9123: Authorities search ordered by authid does not work
08:41 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8641 [Follow-up] Add warning about log-in as root user to About page
08:41 jenkins_koha * melia: Bug 8641 [Follow up]-Reword warning about log-in as root user to About-System information
08:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9134 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , There is no previous link on the second page of the search results page
08:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Divide budget periods into two tabs
08:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8781 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Access to Transfer page while "independent branches" is on
08:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9123 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Authorities search ordered by authid does not work
08:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Add information warning about log-in as root user to About->System information
09:01 magnuse      success! \o/
09:01 magnuse      hiya paul_p
09:04 kf           hi paul_p
09:04 paul_p       hello magnuse & kf
09:56 magnuse      @wunder geilo, norway
09:56 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Aal Skisenter bunnstasjon, Aal, Norway is -17.5°C (10:55 AM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -23.0°C. Windchill: -18.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
10:13 kf           magnuse: skisenter?
10:15 * drojf      giggles at 'geilo'
10:15 drojf        hi #koha
10:15 magnuse      hi drojf
10:15 magnuse      kf: a place where you go if you want to go skiiing
10:15 magnuse      they had -30 this night...
10:15 drojf        hei magnuse
10:15 drojf        wow that's cold
10:17 magnuse      yup
10:17 kf           yup: I'd rather stay in the warmth
10:19 magnuse      good plan :-)
10:25 paul_p       @wunder Athens, greece
10:25 huginn       paul_p: The current temperature in Argyroupoli, Greece is 19.9°C (11:35 AM EET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling).
10:25 * paul_p     head to Athens at the end of the week ;-) (for business, but also a week-end for pleasure)
10:34 drojf        hey paul_p got a minute?
10:35 magnuse      paul_p: that sounds like a good idea :-)
10:35 paul_p       drojf = nope, at a meeting (all the day)
10:35 drojf        paul_p: ok
10:39 drojf        @wunder berlin, germany
10:39 huginn       drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 0.8°C (11:13 AM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
11:26 jcamins      Good morning, #koha.
11:30 drojf        good morning jcamins
11:30 kf           hi jcamins
11:31 * kf         hands jcamins cookies and tea
11:31 jcamins      :)
11:32 kf           breakfast for RMs
11:33 jcamins      Why do we have ExtendedPatronAttributes disabled by default?
11:34 kf           because it has always been I think
11:35 jcamins      I am a strong believer in changing behavior out from under people, but it doesn't do anything unless you add some attributes, does it?
11:35 jcamins      *not changing
11:35 kf           enhancedmessaging should be default on too I think
11:35 kf           if we are having this discussion now :)
11:38 drojf        and socialsomething facebooktwitterwhatever should be off :(
11:38 magnuse      i think it started out as "don't change things for people unless they want it". we might have come to a point where lots of people want it, so we might want to consider making it the default...
11:39 magnuse      maybe ad it to the agenda for the next meeting?
11:41 jcamins      magnuse: the rule is "don't change behavior out from under people," but when a feature has no practical implications without further configuration, that's not really an issue.
11:41 jcamins      Good idea.
11:42 magnuse      one norwegian ils uses marc field 792 to keep track of roles in a play e.g. $k2$m3 = 2 female roles and 3 male roles. is there anything similar in marc21?
11:43 jcamins      Yes, but not in 7xx.
11:43 jcamins      Lemme find it.
11:44 jcamins      Oh, no, it's for music.
11:46 magnuse      ah, thanks for trying
11:47 vfernandes   hi :)
11:48 vfernandes   when upgrading to koha 3.2 to koha 3.8 we should run which script to pass MARCXML to items?
11:48 jcamins      Yes.
11:48 jcamins      Oh, which.
11:48 jcamins      Sorry.
11:48 vfernandes   I forgot the name of the script :P
11:48 jcamins      remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl
11:49 vfernandes   that's it
11:49 vfernandes   we have to do something more?
11:50 vfernandes   my memory today is not good...
11:50 kf           jcamins: weird, i had tested with yes/no 0/1
11:50 kf           or at least I thought I did
11:50 jcamins      vfernandes: reindex.
11:51 jcamins      That's about it, though.
11:51 vfernandes   thank jcamins :)
11:51 jcamins      kf: it probably depends how yes/no is stored.
11:52 kf           hm using the authorized value it's always 0/1
11:52 kf           it comes with the default sample configuration
11:52 kf           I must have missed it
11:52 kf           how annoying
11:53 jcamins      That's what I'm here for.
11:53 jcamins      That and grouching at people.
11:53 kf           heh :)
11:53 jcamins      Deduplicating 53k fields is slow.
11:54 jcamins      (53k -> ~300)
12:05 vfernandes   this script is slow :P
12:05 jcamins      vfernandes: it does a similar thing.
12:06 jcamins      I need a record to import using bulkmarcimport.pl.
12:07 * jcamins    tries to come up with a good record.
12:07 vfernandes   I can go for a walk because remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl only processed 6000 items of 78000 :P
12:08 jcamins      vfernandes: you can go for a walk, having a coffee, have lunch, take a nap, have tea, go for a run, have dinner, dawdle over dessert, clean up, and watch a film!
12:08 kf           lol
12:09 kf           but it will speed up things once it's done...
12:14 vfernandes   :)
12:23 vfernandes   I found the root of holds problems in my installation
12:23 vfernandes   item-level_itypes was empty
12:23 jcamins      Yay!
12:23 jcamins      Ooooh.
12:23 jcamins      That shouldn't be possible, but that would definitely break all kinds of things.
12:23 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9012 - --framework option for bulkmarcimport <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d0bdbce59052abbab348d87ef2975f7b0222478> / Bug 8893 [Follow-up] show more information on printout <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1a773e95b7fce92ef3a7425052667b3e1f1d768> / Bug 8893 - show more information on printout <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdi
12:23 vfernandes   sorry as set as "Biblio record"
12:24 vfernandes   as should be as "specific item"
12:24 jcamins      That also wouldn't do what you want, but at least it's not an invalid configuration.
12:25 vfernandes   yes, I changed the pref and now I can reserve :) this pref was added in which version?
12:25 jcamins      3.2?
12:25 wahanui      3.2 is a stable version and is not supposed to have entering a lot of new syspref
12:26 jcamins      wahanui: forget 3.2
12:26 wahanui      jcamins: I forgot 3.2
12:26 jcamins      3.0.
12:27 vfernandes   the update changed the value of this pref... it's normal?
12:27 jcamins      No.
12:28 jcamins      The stock update definitely does not change the syspref.
12:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #965 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:29 vfernandes   I'm using a test database so maybe the pref was disable
12:30 vfernandes   now I'll test if I only can reserve with all items checked out
12:33 vfernandes   results: If there isn't any checked out items I can't place a hold, which is fine
12:34 vfernandes   If all items are checked out I can place a hold, which is fine
12:35 vfernandes   If 1 items of X items are checked out I can place a hold, which isn't what I pretend
12:35 vfernandes   jcamins this is a bug?
12:36 jcamins      It isn't if you have item-level holds enabled.
12:36 jcamins      If you have item-level holds disabled, it's a bug.
12:37 jcamins      (OpacItemHolds)
12:37 vfernandes   OpacItemHolds = "don't allow"
12:37 jcamins      Bug.
12:38 jcamins      Definitely a bug.
12:38 tcohen       morning #koha
12:39 vfernandes   can I open a Bug with this problem?
12:39 jcamins      Please do.
12:44 vfernandes   bug 9190
12:44 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9190 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Problem with holds - allow place a hold without all items checked out
12:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #245 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 9 days ago)
12:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #7 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:44 kf           vfernandes: actually it's not a bug I think
12:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #245: STILL FAILING in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/245/
12:44 jenkins_koha nengard: update biblioaddsauthorities faq
12:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #7: SUCCESS in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/7/
12:44 jenkins_koha nengard: update biblioaddsauthorities faq
12:45 kf           vfernandes: hmm, it may have something to do with allowonshelfholds
12:45 vfernandes   should I change it to enhacenment
12:45 vfernandes   ?
12:45 jcamins      kf: we already set AllowOnShelfHolds to "Don't allow."
12:45 kf           hm ok
12:45 kf           then.... it is an evil bug if we are talking about title level holds
12:46 kf           you should only be able to place a hold on the checked out item for item level - I think
12:46 jcamins      kf: exactly.
12:46 vfernandes   :/
12:47 kf           vfernandes: hm I think I remember something
12:47 kf           vfernandes: the problem is, all items at your branch
12:48 kf           or on all branches
12:48 kf           so it's not as simple as all checked out or not checked out
12:48 kf           because you have to think multidimensional... lots of branches being involved
12:48 kf           transports and such
12:49 jcamins      kf: oooh, good point.
12:49 jcamins      vfernandes: are the books that aren't checked out at different branches?
12:50 vfernandes   same branch I think but I can do some more tests
12:50 kf           I suspect it might be koha's stnadard behaviour
12:51 kf           addings some notes to the bug - wizzyrea might be able to say more about this
12:52 jcamins      kf: that's certainly not how I understood the holds system to work.
12:52 jcamins      I think it used to work differently.
12:54 kf           I am not sure, I mostly deal with single libraries or with libraries to far apart to allow transports
12:54 kf           jcamins: and I agree with you, I am just not sure if this a changed behaviour or has been like that for a long time
12:55 jcamins      I mostly deal with single libraries as well.
12:56 kf           I think there was a holds rewrite in the works...
12:56 kf           and there might be reasons for that :)
12:57 jcamins      Heh.
12:57 jcamins      True.
12:57 vfernandes   I've done a new test with a record which all items have the same library and I worked as I said before... If 1 items of X items are checked out I can place a hold
12:59 jcamins      Bug 9191
12:59 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9191 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, NEW , updatedatabase.pl must have ability to run updates only up to a particular revision
12:59 jcamins      Has anyone noticed that my rate of bug reporting has gone from "high" to "insane"?
13:00 magnuse      jcamins++
13:01 jcamins      @later tell rangi Bug 9066 might be a candidate for backporting to 3.8. If not, I'd like to close the bug.
13:01 huginn       jcamins: The operation succeeded.
13:10 kf           huginn?
13:10 wahanui      huginn is a bot too veera, not a person
13:10 huginn       wahanui: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
13:10 wahanui      ...but i'll give you the answer just as soon as rda is <reply>...
13:10 kf           bug 9066
13:10 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9066 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , VirtualShelves database access not Plack + MariaDB compatible
13:10 kf           hm
13:15 jcamins      Bug 8908 has a nice subject.
13:15 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8908 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Starman/Plack hangs when faced with zombie Zebra
13:20 kf           wb drojf
13:21 drojf        damn internet connection
13:22 drojf        jcamins: bug 8908 sounds like it would make a great movie
13:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8908 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Starman/Plack hangs when faced with zombie Zebra
13:23 jcamins      lol
13:23 kf           @wunder Konstanz
13:23 huginn       kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0°C (2:00 PM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
13:23 kf           drojf:  it sounds like the the story is alread given in the title :P
13:24 kf           overcast just turned in heavy snow
13:24 drojf        kf: there might me a twist somewhere :)
13:35 * jcamins    RESOLVES a bunch of bugs.
13:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #965: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/965/
13:36 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9135: updatedatabase.pl fails when DEBUG is set
13:36 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8893 - show more information on printout
13:36 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8893 [Follow-up] show more information on printout
13:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9135 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , updatedatabase.pl fails when DEBUG is set
13:36 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 9012 - --framework option for bulkmarcimport
13:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8893 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , show more information on printout
13:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9012 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Allow bulkmarcimport to specify a framework code when importing MARC
13:38 jcamins      That was very cathartic.
13:40 jcamins      Only 554 bugs left that are marked Pushed.
13:41 kf           how many before you started?
13:41 jcamins      No idea.
13:42 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Hartland and Chelsea Public Libraries join VOKAL and Go Live on Koha with ByWater Solutions http://t.co/UmNlONPr #kohails"
13:54 * oleonard   isn't really here
13:55 * kf         pretends to not notice oleonard
13:58 * jcamins    wonders if oleonard is in Spain.
14:02 tcohen       #koha, what do u think of this kind of mocking?
14:02 druthb       owho?
14:02 pastebot     "tcohen" at pasted "## Mock Koha::Calendar->_read_" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/292
14:04 druthb       wahanui: oleonard?
14:04 wahanui      oleonard is, like, not really here.  He said so.  He did
14:04 * druthb     looks innocent.
14:04 jcamins      oleonard?
14:04 wahanui      oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
14:04 tcohen       jcamins, is that ok?
14:04 jcamins      ^^ ah-ha!
14:04 jcamins      tcohen: I'm looking now.
14:05 jcamins      Yes.
14:05 tcohen       what bothers me is that i couldn't find a proper way of using dbd::mock so the Calendar.pm code remains untouched
14:12 jcamins      Why not?
14:17 tcohen       not enough coffee i guess
14:18 tcohen       tried using mock_add_resultset
14:18 tcohen       but couldnt make it work
14:21 oleonard     jcamins++ # for marking bugs fixed
14:29 libsysguy    tcohen what are you trying to make it do?
14:30 gerundio     hi, what's Koha's take on accessibility?
14:38 gerundio     I've gone through http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Accessibility
14:38 libsysguy    as far as ADA compliance?
14:38 gerundio     but there's not much info there
14:38 gerundio     I was reading this article http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/03/european-commission-wants-single-set-of-website-accessibility-rules-to-apply-to-government-sites-by-2015/
14:38 jcamins      gerundio: our feeling is that it is absolutely necessary, and there is an expert at Catalyst working on it.
14:38 gerundio     where they refer "Public libraries, e.g. catalogues and search tools" as one of the types of government sites
14:38 gerundio     this could be a could flagship for Koha on Europe
14:38 tcohen       libsysguy, i'm just trying to mock data that otherwise should come from the DB
14:38 libsysguy    are you using MockModule too??
14:38 tcohen       no, that's my second attempt
14:38 pastebot     "tcohen" at pasted "First attempt" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/293
14:38 pastebot     "tcohen" at pasted "dbh setup" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/294
14:38 libsysguy    take a look at that
14:38 tcohen       yes, I used that too
14:38 tcohen       my $module = new Test::MockModule('C4::Context');
14:38 pastebot     "tcohen" at pasted "actually" (64 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/295
14:39 libsysguy    jcamins is the one with the real experience using DBD::Mock, I'm just getting started
14:39 tcohen       i just couldn't mock the SQL queries/resulsets from Koha::Calendar->_init()
14:40 jcamins      That's because you have a use_ok at the top, I think.
14:40 jcamins      When does _init get called?
14:41 tcohen       from the Koha::Calendar->new
14:41 libsysguy    when the object is initialized
14:42 jcamins      When is Koha::Calendar->new called?
14:43 nengard      jcamins how do i alter this : http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library#Add_a_bookplate_when_cover_images_are_not_found to show no image at all if no cover is found?
14:43 pastebot     "tcohen" at pasted "the whole code" (97 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/296
14:45 jcamins      nengard: don't use it.
14:45 nengard      if i don't use it it puts in the 'no image found' thingy from amazon
14:45 nengard      in this case
14:45 jcamins      Ohh.
14:45 jcamins      I see what you mean.
14:45 nengard      :)
14:45 nengard      I changed the url bit to 'none'
14:45 nengard      haven't tested it yet
14:45 * jcamins    thought you were asking how to not add an image.
14:46 nengard      hehe
14:46 nengard      'none' didn't work
14:46 jcamins      I think you just remove the css property.
14:47 jcamins      Or, perhaps easier, delete .no-image elements.
14:48 nengard      how do I do that? :)
14:48 jcamins      .remove or .delete or something.
14:48 nengard      I know copy and paste when it comes to Jquery
14:48 nengard      thans
14:48 nengard      thanks
14:48 nengard      I'll try
14:48 jcamins      jquery API reference?
14:48 jcamins      jQuery API reference is http://api.jquery.com/
14:48 jcamins      jquery api reference?
14:48 wahanui      i think jquery api reference is http://api.jquery.com/
14:49 libsysguy    $("#elementid").addClass("delete");
14:49 libsysguy    or something like that
14:50 nengard      $('.no-image').remove();
14:50 nengard      bingo
14:50 nengard      adding to wiki
14:50 libsysguy    doesn't that remove all elements with that classname?
14:50 libsysguy    is that what you were going for?
14:50 jcamins      libsysguy: yes.
14:50 jcamins      And yes.
14:51 * libsysguy  generally goes with the hide class
14:51 jcamins      libsysguy: that'd work too.
14:51 jcamins      Might even be preferable.
14:51 libsysguy    famous last words
14:51 nengard      libsysguy, so i shouldn't use what i put there
14:52 nengard      i should use something else
14:52 nengard      .addClass("delete");
14:52 libsysguy    well .remove will work
14:52 nengard      instead of .remove();
14:52 libsysguy    but I would prefer to add a delete or a hide clas
14:52 libsysguy    probably whatever there is already in the stylesheet
14:52 jcamins      Or just change the CSS to hide .no-image.
14:52 libsysguy    there is usually a class to add display:none;
14:52 jcamins      There are many options.
14:53 libsysguy    ALL THE OPTIONS
14:53 libsysguy    there really is no right or wrong way
14:53 jcamins      I think the best is probably the CSS-only one.
14:54 libsysguy    it certainly makes troubleshooting much easier
14:54 gmcharlt     @quote random
14:54 huginn       gmcharlt: Quote #81: "<owen> Free beer *and* free puppy, but be careful: the puppy is drunk." (added by druthb at 01:47 PM, June 28, 2010)
14:55 druthb       @quote random
14:55 huginn       druthb: Quote #166: "jcamins: this is IRC. There's a several decade long tradition of lurking." (added by wizzyrea at 03:06 PM, November 17, 2011)
14:55 wahanui      i already had it that way, huginn.
15:15 kf           @quote random
15:15 huginn       kf: Quote #66: "<paul_p> shame on koha, mySQL & user !" (added by jwagner at 03:39 PM, March 04, 2010)
15:15 kf           I could use some advice of the master UI designer....
15:16 drojf        have you wished hard enough?
15:16 kf           working on it
15:23 kf           hi JesseM
15:23 JesseM       Hi kf
15:34 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Making Purchase Suggestions in Koha 3.6 http://t.co/Pj7iwdbF"
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15:48 tcohen       jcamins, can I send you two files so u look at them? I'm sutck
16:05 nengard      the 3.10 release notes talks about a new system preference: OPACShowHoldsCount  but it's not in my install of master or 3.10 stable
16:05 nengard      ideas?
16:05 nengard      both were upgrades - not new installs
16:06 nengard      bug 7398
16:06 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7398 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Show number of holds on a title in the OPAC details
16:09 reiveune     bye
16:19 drojf        nengard: i see OPACShowHoldQueueDetails in the patch, no OPACShowHoldsCount?!
16:19 nengard      oh!
16:19 nengard      wait, that was the old pref
16:19 nengard      that was there in 3.6 i think
16:19 nengard      or earlier
16:19 nengard      that's for showing the patron where they are in the queue, not for showing the number of holds in the opac
16:20 nengard      so maybe that pref never made it in
16:20 nengard      nevermind me - actually it does have new options
16:22 drojf        i think paul_p did not like to have two new sysprefs (comment 9)
16:22 nengard      yeah it makes good sense
16:22 nengard      but that the release notes confused me
16:23 drojf        it should not be in there if it does not exist :)
16:26 kf           hm
16:26 kf           wondering about something else
16:26 kf           shouldn't we write a press release and send that to marshall breeding about 3.10?
16:26 kf           a bit late now maybe, but it would still be good I think
16:26 kf           with altered release notes if necessary ;)
16:26 kf           ok, now I leave for tody - bye all
16:26 drojf        you mean he does not read 48 pages of koha release notes? what a lazy person
16:27 drojf        have fun in the snow kf
16:27 kf           no, I meant he does not put it in his news if you don't send him sth
16:27 drojf        ah
16:27 drojf        we should have a public relations manager
16:29 drojf        is checking out books only to the library reading room (and not to take home) a thing outside of germany? i wonder how you do that in koha
16:29 jcamins      drojf: that's very common.
16:29 jcamins      There are two ways.
16:30 jcamins      One is to check items out to the patron, one is to check items out to the reading room.
16:30 gaetan_B     drojf: you might want to define hourly loans also
16:31 drojf        i had a library ask at the workshop. i think that is what they actually want to do, but they did some things with not for loan and that does obviously not work. because you cannot put stuff on hold that is not for loan ;)
16:32 drojf        or worse, you can, if it is on order. so they tried to build on that and it does not work
16:34 nengard      kf i can do that if you think everyone would like
16:34 nengard      i write the press for bywater
16:39 vfernandes   How I can transform one 942$c code to the description?
16:40 vfernandes   using XSLT
16:40 rambutan     +1 public relations manager
16:40 jcamins      vfernandes: first question?
16:40 wahanui      "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?"
16:41 vfernandes   I want to pass in the OAI the correct document type which is the 942$c but if I access it directly I only obtain the code
16:42 vfernandes   I've do a little modification to OAI xslt
16:42 drojf        can't you do that at the receiving end? i think i saw that in vufind yesterday
16:42 jcamins      I see.
16:42 jcamins      You can't do that only with XSLT.
16:42 jcamins      I would do the mapping on the harvester.
16:43 vfernandes   ok that's difficult :/
16:44 drojf        oh it's for koha location codes in vufind
16:46 jcamins      You could write your own lookup function in the custom XSLT, but I can't think of any other options.
16:49 vfernandes   ok thanks...
16:51 drojf        is magazine the english word for the non-public place in (or outside) the library where you store books? or what is that called?
16:51 drojf        or just archive maybe
16:51 jcamins      Archive or off-site storage.
16:52 drojf        thanks
16:54 drojf        to use that in koha, would i open a new branch for it and then transfer to the main branch?
16:56 jcamins      It depends.
16:56 jcamins      If you have staff off-site, y es.
16:56 jcamins      *yes
16:56 jcamins      If your regular staff just walk over to pick it up you can make it a location.
16:56 jcamins      Or item type.
16:56 wahanui      i guess item type is set correctly in items
16:57 drojf        thanks jcamins
16:57 drojf        hola cait
16:58 cait         hi dr
16:58 cait         drojf:
16:58 cait         hi drojf
16:58 cait         lol
16:58 drojf        :)
16:59 drojf        dr. drojf. i like that
16:59 cait         yeah, i thought you would
17:03 * jcamins    thinks Herr Doktor Professor is a better title. :)
17:08 gaetan_B     bye
17:08 cait         jcamins: Herr Professor Doktor... :)
17:08 drojf        lol jcamins. it's …
17:08 drojf        cait was faser
17:08 drojf        faster
17:08 cait         ;)
17:21 jcamins      YES!!!
17:21 jcamins      Zebra 2.0.53 was released.
17:22 libsysguy    what is coming with that version?
17:22 libsysguy    that we care about**
17:22 libsysguy    s/we/jcamins/
17:22 libsysguy    ;)
17:22 jcamins      libsysguy: @attr 5=2 and @attr 5=3 for ICU.
17:23 jcamins      Also, I think they may have fixed the segfault I just encountered.
17:23 libsysguy    uuu a segfault
17:24 libsysguy    one of the many reasons I don't miss c/c++
18:04 * chris_n    yells "vim rules" and quickly runs away :-)
18:17 tcohen       vim++
18:18 rangi        Morning
18:18 wahanui      Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
18:19 tcohen       morning rangi
18:23 chris_n      hey rangi
18:39 jcamins      rangi: when you get back from getting coffee, could you give me a brief refresher on how to move branches to koha-archive?
18:41 rangi        Righto
18:41 jcamins      And by "refresher" I mean "tell me for the first time."
18:41 rangi        Bbiab
18:50 rangi        jcamins: closing 9066 sounds good to me, im probably not going to try porting any more plack fixes to 3.8.x
18:50 magnuse      kia ora rangi!
18:51 rangi        heya magnuse
18:51 wahanui      i think magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
18:52 cait         hi magnuse :)
18:52 rangi        jcamins: ok, so pushing to the archive
18:52 magnuse      guten abend cait
18:53 * jcamins    listens eagerly.
18:56 rangi        add a remote for the archive repo
18:57 jcamins      Done.
18:58 rangi        checkout your branch locally
18:58 rangi        eg new/bug2567 is old
18:58 jcamins      So: git checkout -b bug2567 kc/new/bug2567
18:58 jcamins      ?
18:58 rangi        yep
18:59 rangi        then
18:59 rangi        git push gitmaster@git.koha-community.org:koha-archive.git your_branch
19:00 rangi        id call it new/bug2567
19:00 rangi        makes the delete bit easier
19:00 jcamins      Ah.
19:00 jcamins      Got it.
19:01 rangi        then check its there by doing a git fetch or by looking at http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha-archive.git;a=summary
19:01 rangi        then
19:02 rangi        git push gitmaster@git.koha-community.org:koha.git :new/bug2567
19:03 rangi        and you can git branch -D it locally if you want (i kept my local copy, cos im paranoid)
19:04 jcamins      Hm. Looks like I don't have permission to delete the new/* branches.
19:04 jcamins      Or I did it wrong.
19:04 rangi        ahh could well be
19:04 rangi        2 secs
19:06 rangi        try that
19:06 jcamins      Yup, that worked.
19:06 jcamins      Thanks!
19:07 rangi        cool
19:07 drojf        is there a valid reason why i cannot use 0 as a value in an OAI-PMH mapping? it seems like 0 is interpreted as "empty" and the mapping deleted
19:08 jcamins      drojf: valid in the sense of "you're not imagining it," probably. Valid in the sense of "reasonable," no.
19:08 drojf        defining a set of all not-suppressed records (942$n = 0) is not possible like that
19:09 jcamins      As I said, you're not imagining it, but there's no good reason.
19:09 drojf        ok
19:09 jcamins      :)
19:09 cait         drojf: sounds like a bug report is going to be filed
19:09 drojf        cait: by you? that's so nice :)
19:09 jcamins      Certainly not by me. :P
19:09 cait         nope
19:10 cait         cait?
19:10 wahanui      rumour has it cait is qam, not your secretary
19:10 drojf        hahaha
19:10 drojf        kf?
19:10 wahanui      kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert.
19:10 cait         wahanui botsnack cookie
19:10 wahanui      thanks cait :)
19:10 drojf        dirndl and slides are missing ;)
19:10 cait         slides?
19:10 wahanui      kf should be writing slides
19:10 cait         dirndl?
19:10 drojf        ah yes it was slides
19:10 cait         oh well... 50%
19:10 drojf        lol
19:11 cait         now I have entertained you enough, go write the bug! :P
19:11 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @tararobertson: "@ranginui hey, what does #kohails community do to reduce costs for people from developing countries to attend your conference?"
19:11 cait         hm we are making it a free conference.
19:11 rangi        thats what i said
19:12 cait         yay
19:12 rangi        https://twitter.com/ranginui/status/275677786008612864
19:14 jcamins      Probably all the new/awaiting_qa/* branches can be moved to the archive.
19:14 rangi        i think so
19:24 jcamins      Okay, now I know how to do it.
19:25 rangi        sweet
19:25 rangi        yeah its not to bad
19:25 rangi        if you were insane you could even use xargs and automate it
19:25 libsysguy    so I haven't heard anything about the progress of Solr, I have seen some stuff poping up in the codebase though
19:26 rangi        but the first time you accidentally delete master would be the time i yell :)
19:26 jcamins      rangi: I feel better using my archive-branch git alias.
19:26 jcamins      libsysguy: there is Solr code.
19:26 libsysguy    meh there are a thousand copies of master rangi :p
19:26 jcamins      libsysguy: it doesn't work.
19:26 jcamins      No, that's not fair.
19:26 jcamins      It works.
19:26 cait         rangi yelling...
19:26 jcamins      It is not usable.
19:26 cait         I have a hard time imagining that
19:26 jcamins      Okay, that's not quite fair either.
19:27 jcamins      It is usable, but not if you want a fully-featured catalog.
19:27 jcamins      There we go.
19:27 libsysguy    heh
19:27 libsysguy    is it missing facet searching?
19:27 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @ranginui: "@shlew @tararobertson the Hawaii state archives use #kohails .. you should go tell them they want me to fly over for um training :)"
19:27 jcamins      I'm not sure. It's missing all support for authorities.
19:27 libsysguy    its just authorities jcamins who uses those horrible things :p
19:28 libsysguy    i kid i kid
19:28 jcamins      And the configuration is almost exactly equivalent to GRS-1, which we ditched because it didn't allow us to do things like search by availability.
19:29 libsysguy    I have been poking through your search rewrite
19:30 libsysguy    and it looks…complex
19:30 libsysguy    at least the PQF stuff does
19:30 jcamins      (also, after two days fighting with it, I came to the unhappy conclusion that it wouldn't work under Squeeze without an act of god and major compiling from source code)
19:30 jcamins      It's not.
19:30 libsysguy    but that's probably just my unfamiliarity with terms
19:30 jcamins      It's embarrassingly simple.
19:31 libsysguy    it almost looked like a mapping table
19:31 * jcamins    adds for rambutan's benefit that simple != easy!
19:31 libsysguy    op= something
19:31 jcamins      Yes, it is a mapping table.
19:31 libsysguy    oh well there, simple
19:31 libsysguy    heh
19:32 jcamins      Complex is the Postgres driver.
19:32 libsysguy    the one we wrote?
19:32 jcamins      No, the one that Evergreen uses.
19:32 jcamins      We don't use Postgres.
19:33 libsysguy    [off] well now that mbalmer is gone do we have to? :p
19:33 jcamins      [off] lol
19:34 libsysguy    so is this the point where I should jump in and advocate for DBIx::Class?
19:34 jcamins      Yes.
19:34 libsysguy    hey guys I think we should take a really close look at DBIX::Class for database agnosticism
19:34 libsysguy    ^^ like that?
19:34 jcamins      Well done.
19:34 cait         lol
19:34 * libsysguy  takes a bow
19:34 * cait       loves #koha
19:35 cait         best show ever
19:35 libsysguy    Anna wonders why I have so much fun at work
19:35 jcamins      You know what would be nice? If DBIx::Class came with built-in YAML parsing bits.
19:36 cait         libsysguy: :)
19:36 libsysguy    hmm, that would be nice
19:36 libsysguy    we don't use YAML do we?
19:36 cait         we do I think
19:36 cait         the prefs?
19:36 jcamins      We do in some places, and I will be using it also for the search rewrite.
19:36 libsysguy    has been working with catalyst again and is getting spoiled
19:37 * libsysguy  ^^
19:37 jcamins      What does Catalyst use in place of YAML?
19:37 cait         libsysguy: as long as you remember: tests tests tests and testable small steps ;)
19:37 libsysguy    there are 3 options and YAML is one
19:37 jcamins      Cool: http://search.cpan.org/~jlmartin/DBIx-Class-InflateColumn-Serializer-0.03/lib/DBIx/Class/InflateColumn/Serializer/YAML.pm
19:38 jcamins      What are the others?
19:38 libsysguy    there is also that
19:38 wahanui      the others are too depressing
19:38 jcamins      lol
19:38 libsysguy    haha
19:38 libsysguy    http://search.cpan.org/~bricas/Catalyst-Plugin-ConfigLoader-0.30/lib/Catalyst/Plugin/ConfigLoader.pm
19:38 cait         what I said... best show ever :)
19:39 cait         the bot is hilarious, should ask for an autograph sometime
19:41 libsysguy    so in short: INI, JSON, PERL. XML, YAML, and Config::General
19:41 libsysguy    look to be the top ones
19:41 libsysguy    I have been using Config::General
19:41 jcamins      Well, I hate INI, XML is silly, I have no idea what "Perl" means in this context, and YAML is just JSON with lots of whitespace, so I'll stick with YAML.
19:42 jcamins      Also, I need to store hashes and arrays of hashes.
19:42 jcamins      Not really INI-type data.
19:42 druthb       hash?
19:42 druthb       hash is <reply> Ask druthb; she'll serve you a nice plate of roast beef hash.
19:42 libsysguy    hash-ception
19:42 libsysguy    mmm breakfash hash
19:43 jcamins      And Config::General doesn't make sense if you're storing data in the database, IMO.
19:43 druthb       hash?
19:43 wahanui      Ask druthb; she'll serve you a nice plate of roast beef hash.
19:44 jcamins      rangi: BTW, any chance I could persuade you to push bug 8820 so it doesn't sit around in the Passed QA queue taunting me?
19:44 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8820 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Don't show orders table if there are no orders
19:44 libsysguy    http://search.cpan.org/~bricas/Catalyst-Plugin-ConfigLoader-0.30/lib/Catalyst/Plugin/ConfigLoader/Manual.pod#Perl
19:45 jcamins      And since I'd prefer a format that is not necessarily tied to the language, that won't do.
19:46 libsysguy    dude you're so picky lol
19:46 libsysguy    but anyway back to the point
19:46 libsysguy    we need to QA DBIX::Class
19:46 libsysguy    and I'm not allowed to QA myself
19:49 mveron       Hi #koha
19:49 libsysguy    hi mveron
19:49 mveron       hi libsysguy
19:50 mveron       @wunder basel
19:50 huginn       mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 1.0°C (8:30 PM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
19:50 * libsysguy  has discovered from trolling around other irc rooms that its kind of sad to say hi when you come in and nobody else talk to you
19:50 mveron       :-)
19:51 cait         hi mveron :)
19:51 cait         long time no see!
19:51 mveron       hi cait :-)
19:51 jcamins      libsysguy: maybe I'll use DBIx::Class for in-database search configuration.
19:51 mveron       I had a lot of non-koha work to do... But this evening I want to sign-off some bugs
19:51 rangi        mveron++ #signing off patches
19:53 cait         yep mveron++
19:55 libsysguy    jcamins you're going to use it for pulling db configs?
19:55 libsysguy    actually paul_p said he saw a performance decrease using DBIx::Class with CGI
19:56 rangi        you will
19:56 rangi        its significantly more overhead than raw sql
19:56 rangi        gotta balance it up, with does the other advantages outweigh the performance hit
19:59 libsysguy    I think its an important step forward
19:59 libsysguy    even if it is a performance hit now
19:59 libsysguy    maybe one day we can phase out cgi ;)
20:00 rangi        you can make that day come sooner by making psgi work out of the box, and with the packages .. as easy as apache does, sooner that happens the sooner we can get rid of it
20:02 drojf        .
20:03 cait         guess drojf is having connection problems again
20:05 jcamins      libsysguy: if DBIx::Class gets in I might.
20:06 libsysguy    so this is like a big catch22
20:06 libsysguy    :p
20:06 rangi        not really no
20:06 rangi        make the install for plack work as easy as it does now for apache, no editing config files no editing anything
20:06 rangi        an init.d script to keep it running, locks, logs etc
20:07 rangi        then we are back where we are now with apache
20:07 libsysguy    and still offering apache
20:07 rangi        then we are in a position to consider phasing out cgi
20:07 jcamins      Right.
20:07 libsysguy    so users that choose apache are willingly taking the hit
20:07 libsysguy    rather than a forced hit
20:08 rangi        yeah
20:08 rangi        and dont hit them, until they actually have a viable alternative
20:08 rangi        :)
20:08 rangi        at least, dont hit things like circ
20:08 libsysguy    heh
20:08 rangi        and things that have to be fast, until they can reasonably opt for psgi
20:09 rangi        at the moment, you couldnt tell people to use psgi .. only developers could
20:09 rangi        that's not our target :)
20:09 rangi        [off] lets do it better than the lazy other people
20:10 * wizzyrea   waves
20:10 cait         hi wizzyrea
20:11 * gmcharlt   waves too
20:11 cait         hi gmcharlt
20:11 jcamins      [off] agreed
20:11 jcamins      My PSGI configuration is PDN (Pretty Darn Nice), if I say so myself.
20:11 libsysguy    [off] I'm all for having a better implementation than our forks
20:13 jcamins      I got it down to having host names in only one file.
20:17 jcamins      Oh, good news: Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxy is available in Wheezy.
20:22 * tcohen     says 'and so in 12.04' and runs away :-P
20:22 jcamins      tcohen: well, yeah, I installed it from packages on my system.
20:23 jcamins      libsysguy: the other issue, of course, with PSGI is that everything has to work with PSGI.
20:23 tcohen       moved to testing with DBD::Mock::Session BTW
20:25 jcamins      DBD::Mock::Session? I'm not familiar with that.
20:25 jcamins      Ah.
20:25 jcamins      Intriguing.
20:26 pastebot     "jcamins" at pasted "libsysguy: non-exhaustive list of probable problems for PSGI based on a quick grep" (133 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/298
20:26 pastebot     "tcohen" at pasted "my $holidays_session = DBD::Mo" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/299
20:27 tcohen       druthb_away: we'll have news tomorrow (GMT-3)
20:27 jcamins      tcohen: very cool.
20:27 jcamins      libsysguy: you're welcome. I know you wanted an idea of the scope of the problem.
20:28 libsysguy    ...
20:28 libsysguy    nobody likes a smart ass jcamins :p
20:28 jcamins      We hope that at least some of those are in POD.
20:31 jcamins      Ugh.
20:31 cait         ops
20:31 jcamins      Fun fact: C4::ItemCirculationAlertPreference uses AUTOLOAD.
20:31 cait         jcamins: what did you grep for?
20:32 jcamins      As do a bunch of other classes that don't need to.
20:32 jcamins      cait: grep -RE "^my " C4/* | grep -v '.t:'
20:32 cait         oh
20:33 cait         what does it translate to?
20:33 jcamins      I looked for "my" at the very beginning of the line, but not in .t files.
20:33 libsysguy    regex's don't translate :p
20:33 jcamins      Some of those may be POD.
20:33 cait         so every my is a possible problem?
20:33 jcamins      However, that doesn't include anything in BEGIN {} and INIT {} blocks.
20:34 jcamins      Every my that is not not in a subroutine, yes.
20:34 cait         hm interesting
20:34 wahanui      interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
20:36 jcamins      libsysguy: before we could claim that PSGI is safe, it would have to be possible to include nothing but C4::Context in the .psgi file.
20:39 drojf        OAI question. i can list my sets with ListSets, i can list my records with ListRecords. how do i list the records from a certain set only?
20:40 * jcamins    doesn't know, sorry.
20:41 drojf        HA! i found something jcamins does not know
20:41 * drojf      marks the day in the calendar
20:41 drojf        ;)
20:41 jcamins      lol
20:42 drojf        i thought adding a &set=mysetname would do, but it is empty. maybe my set definition does not work
20:42 tcohen       does blessing a variable make it safe for assignment without initialization?
20:42 tcohen       (a hash or array variable)
20:42 pastebot     "tcohen" at pasted "A) $self->{day_month_closed_da" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/300
20:43 jcamins      blessing a variable makes it blessed so that you probably shouldn't be doing any assignments to it.
20:44 jcamins      For hashes, the entry is automatically created.
20:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #70 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:45 cait         drojf: I think there is a job involved in building the set
20:45 cait         s
20:45 jcamins      So when you do $self->{whatever} = { 2 => 'stuff' }, the {whatever} key is created.
20:45 cait         maybe check bugzilla to find the bug that introcuded sets
20:45 jcamins      tcohen: does that answer your question?
20:46 tcohen       hmm, not really
20:46 tcohen       i moved an assignment that lived in the _init function outside of it
20:46 drojf        cait: yes i started to wonder how it would do that on the fly :)
20:47 tcohen       the way you read in my latest parte
20:47 tcohen       paste
20:47 tcohen       and get this warning
20:47 jcamins      Okay, so the problem is you had (A) but you want something more like (B) and are trying to resolve the warning?
20:48 tcohen       i had A in the _init function, moved to B in a separate method, and got this warning
20:48 tcohen       I'll just revert that change
20:48 tcohen       but don't understand what's the difference
20:48 tcohen       think i'll have to reread perltoot
20:48 jcamins      You should be using hashrefs rather than hashes, I think.
20:49 jcamins      rangi would know better than I would, though.
20:50 rangi        you should always pass refs
20:50 rangi        you can deref tham and play with them as hashes if you want, but you should always pass them as refs
20:51 tcohen       i'm creating a hash inside the method, and returning a \@ reference
20:51 tcohen       i guess my problem is with initialization
20:51 jcamins      rangi: with a hash of a hash, I feel like it's better to have $variable->{key1}->{key2} than $variable{key1}{key2}... is that true?
20:51 tcohen       maybe i need to push values instead of just assigning
20:51 jcamins      Even if you're not necessarily passing $variable back.
20:52 rangi        jcamins: i find it a ton more readable
20:52 cait         :)
20:52 rangi        but thats a stylistic thing
20:53 rangi        the refs when passing is a peformance thing
20:53 rangi        they are both valid tho i think
20:55 tcohen       Use of uninitialized value in hash element at Koha/Calendar.pm line 61
20:55 tcohen       $day_month_closed_days{ $tuple->{ month } }{ $tuple->{ day } } =
20:55 tcohen       1;
20:55 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @jsicot: "Compte lecteur bientôt disponible sur la version mobile, cool ! #kohails http://t.co/HvRsgCC4"
20:55 jcamins      tcohen: and you're sure $tuple->{month} and $tuple->{day} are both defined?
20:56 tcohen       good question jcamins
20:57 drojf        d'oh. testing OAI in 3.8, but changing the settings for mapping in master. yeah for multikoha
21:00 rangi        ahh my trainee has arrived
21:02 cait         :)
21:03 cait         good night all :)
21:10 oleonard     [off] grumble grumble developing in secret grumble
21:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #70: SUCCESS in 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/70/
21:11 jenkins_koha liz: Revert "Bug 9024: Add missing sample data to existing files"
21:11 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9024 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Add additional sample data to German installer
21:17 rangi        hi Marlon
21:19 rangi        @wunder honiara
21:19 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in Honiara / Henderson, Solomon Islands is 28.0°C (8:00 AM SBT on December 04, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
21:20 rangi        !jenkins status
21:20 jenkins_koha status of all projects:
21:20 jenkins_koha 3_6_Packages(BUILDING: 8 min 8 sec and counting): last build: 25 (5 days 18 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/3_6_Packages/25/
21:20 jenkins_koha 3_8_packages: last build: 171 (13 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/3_8_packages/171/
21:20 jenkins_koha Koha_3.10.x: last build: 27 (13 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/27/
21:20 jenkins_koha Koha_3.2.x(disabled) : last build: 36 (1 yr 0 mo ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/36/
21:20 jenkins_koha Koha_3.4.x(disabled) : last build: 80 (9 mo 16 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/80/
21:20 jenkins_koha Koha_3.6.x: last build: 70 (35 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/70/
21:20 jenkins_koha Koha_3.8.x: last build: 241 (14 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/241/
21:20 jenkins_koha Koha_Docs: last build: 245 (8 hr 35 min ago): FAILURE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/245/
21:20 jenkins_koha Koha_Docs_3.8.x: last build: 7 (8 hr 35 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/7/
21:20 jenkins_koha Koha_master: last build: 965 (8 hr 50 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/965/
21:20 jenkins_koha Master_Packages: last build: 146 (7 hr 43 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Master_Packages/146/
21:22 rangi        bug 8849
21:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8849 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Error log generated when not a demo system
21:22 jcamins      Drat.
21:22 jcamins      kohaversion.pl + bug 7167 = great confusion
21:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , updatedatabase improvements
21:39 tcohen       d*mn, sudo cpan DBD::Mock solved ALL my issues
21:40 jcamins      Well, I wrote a patch for bug 9191.
21:40 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9191 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase.pl must have ability to run updates only up to a particular revision
21:43 tcohen       a full day trying to make dbd::mock work, and the problem was it was an outdated version..
21:44 libsysguy    tis okay tcohen, I have spent 3 afternoons trying to get logins working for my catalyst port and the problem was my server time was 5 days behind
21:44 libsysguy    doh
21:44 chris_n      been there done that... will probably do it again too :-P
21:44 libsysguy    same
21:45 chris_n      syntax is a hard taskmaster
21:45 libsysguy    I feel retarded because I was on #catalyst asking what I could be doing wrong
21:45 libsysguy    indeed it is
21:45 chris_n      time to head home; g'evening
21:47 tcohen       bye chris_n
21:47 tcohen       thanks libsysguy
21:51 mveron       Good night #koha
21:53 tcohen       jcamins, i'll write some tests, i'll try to avoid any tcohen-ism too!
21:53 tcohen       (pretty rewriting stuff heh)
23:30 tcohen       bye #koha
23:39 jcamins      Bug 9202
23:39 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9202 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , TT plugin to allow direct display of MARC::Records
23:59 libsysguy    is mtj mason james?
23:59 bag          yes
23:59 bag          mtj?
23:59 wahanui      i guess mtj is a danger to bots everywhere.
23:59 libsysguy    poor wahanui
23:59 libsysguy    bag you know where he is hiding his work on bootstrap