Time Nick Message 23:59 drojf looks like i really did not update the translation files then 23:58 drojf yes they should be taken from a sprite 23:58 jcamins Yes, those files don't exist. 23:56 jcamins I thought there had been a patch in which those images were eliminated. 23:56 jcamins drojf: I think you need to update your translations. 23:53 drojf i think there are more problems with non-english languages. i also get "NetworkError: 404 Not Found - http://192.168.56.12/opac-tmpl/prog/images/list.gif", same for cart.gif. happens with the german version, not the english one 23:48 * francharb waves #koha good bye 23:48 jcamins drojf: apparently fredericd did not put the PO files on translate.koha-community.org? 23:47 drojf so the ccsr theme is only available for english? 23:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Focus when editing/adding new itemtypes/authorised values 23:46 jenkins_koha oleonard: Bug 9137 - Focus when editing/adding new itemtypes/authorised values 23:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #238: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/238/ 23:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #238 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9106 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Filtering list of uncertain price list by owner empties order information 23:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8614 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Icon for scores on OPAC detail page broken 23:08 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 9106 - Filtering list of uncertain price list by owner empties order information 23:08 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8614 [3.8.x] Icon for scores on OPAC detail page broken 23:08 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #237: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/237/ 22:41 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 22:41 jcamins @later tell talljoy There was another bug to do with spaces in register types in the DOM configuration file. Search for ": [nwp]" in biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl and remove the space if you find it. The fix was post 3.8.4. 22:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #237 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:39 rangi hi hankbank 21:39 rangi hi libsysguy 21:38 cait where have you been hiding? :) 21:38 * cait waves to libsysguy 21:33 jcamins lol 21:33 libsysguy I would have left it at large but I didn't want anyone to think I was compensating for something 21:31 libsysguy well that makes sense 21:31 jcamins It's in a separate JS file so that the authority editor and bibliographic editor don't diverge again. 21:30 libsysguy but I was cursing having to rebase my patch 21:30 libsysguy idk where it went 21:30 libsysguy and somebody removed a whole crapton of js from that file 21:30 * libsysguy tips his hat to oleonard 21:30 libsysguy well somebody already integrated jquery 21:30 libsysguy hehe 21:29 jcamins libsysguy: changing the cataloging module's Javascript from custom disaster to jQuery required only a small patch?!? 21:26 eythian it is rather 21:26 cait morning eythian 21:26 eythian hi 21:23 wizzyrea it's the little things :P 21:23 * wizzyrea sends oleonard lots of chocolate to get that working 21:22 wizzyrea ahh! floating save button in the syspref editor 21:22 * oleonard escapes 21:21 jcamins You're welcome. :) 21:21 jcamins oleonard: oh, that reminds me. I have a bug to report on the floating save button in the syspref editor. 21:21 * oleonard has to leave, more wysiwygging tomorrow I guess 21:20 oleonard Don't know, but that did look interesting. 21:19 jcamins oleonard: would something like jWYSIWYG be better? 21:16 oleonard Hm, it's not clear that one /can/ load custom translations to TinyMCE from a config file... 21:15 rangi heh 21:15 * chris_n heads home 21:15 chris_n jcamins is on a roll today 21:12 * jcamins cracks himself up sometimes. 21:11 jcamins I settled on "Table crepes," with the recipe for making it from scratch labelled "For another roll." 21:10 jcamins Hello. 21:10 cait hi wizzyrea :) 21:08 * wizzyrea waves 21:06 cait yay :) 21:06 jcamins Of course. 21:06 jcamins lol 21:06 cait but hey, do I get full points now for answering the question? :) 21:05 cait lol sorry, totally overread this 21:05 jcamins oleonard: is there a more-translatable jQuery plugin we should be switching to instead? 21:05 oleonard I wonder if anyone ever uses the "save" button? 21:05 jcamins cait: yup, that's where oleonard found it. :) 21:04 cait not sure it's the same editor - but we use a graphical one there, and for the help files 21:04 cait for the new branchnote thing I think 21:04 cait in branches too 21:00 oleonard Not sure why iespell is in there 20:59 oleonard 'plugins : "table,save,advhr,advlink,iespell,searchreplace,print,contextmenu",' 20:58 oleonard We use TinyMCE in news, branches, and in editing help 20:57 jcamins That's what I thought. 20:57 rangi only in the news isnt it? 20:57 oleonard I'm not sure, that's what I'm trying to figure out right now 20:56 jcamins oleonard: do we use a lot of TinyMCE plugins? 20:56 oleonard Perhaps we identify all the plugins Koha uses and build one big language config file for all of them... 20:54 oleonard Wow, making TinyMCE translatable for an arbitrary set of languages is going to be a pain in the butt 20:52 * oleonard grumbles that every TinyMCE plugin has its own language file in it's own directory 20:52 oleonard I hardly ever have item-level itemtypes off, so I forgot about it right away 20:51 oleonard I noticed that the other day jcamins 20:50 jcamins In the OPAC. 20:50 jcamins Does anyone else find that public lists have broken itemtype images? 20:47 oleonard paul_p's number is 60 20:44 cait hm ok, in part my search, but it was 3333 20:44 cait or it's my search 20:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3333 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , item status for "not for loan" by item type / item is different 20:44 jcamins bug 3333 20:44 jcamins lol 20:44 cait ... and the status of my first bugs is all still new *sigh* 20:43 cait cait, 3333 20:43 oleonard 394! 20:43 cait oh cool 20:43 jcamins Yup. 20:43 cait hm ah, reporter and sort by bug number? 20:42 jcamins cait: I looked for the first one I reported. 20:39 cait first bug 20:39 cait not sure what my first one was 20:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4366 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jcamins, CLOSED FIXED, COinS support for MARC21 20:39 jcamins Actually, looks like I started around bug 4366. 20:39 cait or bug number we will reach... you know what I mean :) 20:39 cait on the bug number to be reached for 3.12 release? 20:39 cait do we want to bet? 20:38 cait lol 20:37 jcamins Heh. 20:37 oleonard "rangi, 0" :) 20:36 oleonard Instead of saying what year we joined the Koha community, we should say what bug number we started at 20:35 jcamins I remember when we hit 6000 or so. 20:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9172 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Move TinyMCE library outside of language-specific directory 20:33 oleonard Bug 9172 20:31 rambutan http://opac.kalibindia.com/ <- dead links on left menu? 20:29 jenkins_koha nengard: add note about manual_inv descriptions 20:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #243: STILL FAILING in 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/243/ 20:29 jenkins_koha nengard: add note about manual_inv descriptions 20:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #5: SUCCESS in 16 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/5/ 20:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #243 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 6 days ago) 20:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #5 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:28 cait haven't done a search actually, butnice newitems feature 20:27 jcamins Heh. Looks like the library cait located doesn't understand the difference between bibs and items. 20:22 rangi its pretty easy to test 20:22 rangi can i get a sign off on the follow up for 9149 please 20:21 rangi awesomesauce 20:20 jcamins Patch uploaded. 20:10 cait you 2 even... 20:10 cait so much fun to see you too solving a bad bug 20:09 cait koha++ 20:09 cait :) 20:08 jcamins Yeah, I should add unit tests for that. 20:08 rangi ah well, good to have found it 20:07 rangi (and we have no unit tests that would catch it) 20:06 rangi my bad, i had obviously tested against master then when i went to pick saw it said 3.8.x and went oh i tested on there, and picked it over, did a quick test (and in my 3.8.x one i didnt have autocreate on, i had to turn it on to trigger the bug) so it snuck through 20:05 rangi is probably the safest 20:05 rangi with the C4::AuthoritiesMarc changes 20:05 rangi yeah 20:05 jcamins I think maybe the thing to do is a follow-up. 20:04 rangi could post that .. it could be jsut as a follow up for the one that is there, and ill pick it in 20:04 jcamins Ummm... 20:03 rangi ahh that will be the issue then :) 20:03 jcamins Okay, the 3.8.x patch was never posted. 20:03 huginn 04Bug 8823: normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , CatalogModuleRelink Creates Multiple Links between Bib and Auth record ($9 RLIN) 20:03 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8823 20:03 jcamins That one's for master. 20:03 rangi anyway short answer is, we need a follow up with the changes to C4::AuthoritiesMarc 20:02 * rangi boggles, how in the hell did i get this to work 20:02 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=12540&action=edit 20:01 rangi your patch only has the one 20:01 wahanui i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad 20:01 rangi interesting 20:00 jcamins That's missing one of the two files I changed. 20:00 jcamins Looks like an improper merge. 19:59 rangi its 216251e52467cfa3540f16c816ba94c5c0bd499d 19:56 jcamins Yay! 19:56 * cait cheers rangi on 19:56 rangi Bisecting: 15 revisions left to test after this (roughly 4 steps) 19:56 rangi closing in 19:55 cait martian523++ :) 19:43 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "TinyMCE language files" (41 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/288 19:42 cait oleonard: also a good point 19:42 * magnuse gotta run 19:41 oleonard ...which we could do if we don't mind including all possible language files for all installations 19:41 magnuse cait: good point! 19:41 cait maybe. 19:41 cait i think maybe we have to teach it to find out which language it#s supposed to show 19:41 * magnuse would think there are already translations for it 19:40 oleonard Maybe it's possible to use a configuration file like we do with the datepicker 19:40 magnuse ah 19:40 oleonard Yeah, it has a "langs" directory but it only includes en 19:40 cait *sigh* 19:40 magnuse when i choose norwegian i still see tooltips in tinymce in english 19:39 cait not really 19:39 magnuse hm, i can't remember seeing strings from tinymce in the translations. cait: can you? 19:38 magnuse oleonard: don't know... 19:38 oleonard magnuse: Does tinymce handle localization correctly by default? 19:37 cait magnuse: you got volunteered to open a bug :P 19:37 oleonard Sounds like a good idea, but it wasn't on my radar before 19:37 magnuse oleonard: do you have a plan for moving tinymce out of the language specific dirs? 19:36 magnuse hehe 19:35 jcamins Ironic. 19:35 oleonard tinymce files are *huge* in general. 19:34 magnuse wow, copying tinymce-files are a *huge* part of running "translate install"... 19:28 rangi thats my guess 19:28 jcamins cait: yeah, I'm thinking maybe a merge error. 19:28 jcamins Thanks. 19:28 cait side effect from something else? 19:28 rangi will let you know 19:28 rangi im gonna git bisect to find it 19:28 rangi *nod* i was pretty sure I had too 19:28 jcamins rangi: no, I definitely had AutoCreateAuthorities turned on because that was where there was a bug. 19:27 rangi magnuse: yep 19:27 rangi yeah, and it seemed to work fine, but we both may have not had autocreate switched on 19:27 magnuse the problem you are talking about now is just to do with authorities, right? 19:26 cait magnuse: brave ;) 19:25 * magnuse upgrades to 3.8.7 19:23 * McCloud[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes 19:23 jcamins What perplexes me is that I wrote the patch that added it against 3.8, then forward-ported it. 19:23 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @BulganUgur: "Her ay alt sürüm, 6 ayda birde yeni sürüm çıkaran kütüphane otomasyon programı var mı? #kohails" 19:22 jcamins Hm, yeah, need to figure out what happened to 3.8.x. 19:17 martian523 thanks 19:13 rangi So we will fix it 19:13 rangi But I know in practice autocreate is useful 19:12 rangi And link your bibliographic records to them 19:12 rangi Like library of congress 19:12 rangi In theory you should get authorities from an authoritative source 19:11 rangi Autocreate is a hack you kinda lose the value of authorities if you create new ones for every record 19:11 martian523 o ok 19:10 rangi You probably should be doing that anyway :) 19:09 cait so you will have to manually create and link them I think 19:09 rangi It won't autocreate authorities 19:08 martian523 ok, but would this work around create new problems? 19:08 rangi Unless I decide it's more urgent 19:08 rangi And yes December 22 19:08 rangi So others know 19:08 rangi Could you update the bug saying if you turn autocreate authorities off you can work round this 19:08 martian523 ok...that will be in the next update i suppose? 19:07 cait rangi++ 19:07 rangi When that is fixed you can switch it back on 19:07 cait sounds a bit complicated 19:07 rangi In trying to fix that autocreate was broken 19:06 rangi But it appeared to be fine 19:06 rangi Well it wasn't it was creating duplicate authorities 19:06 rangi There is a bug in autocreate 19:06 martian523 o, so it's just a temporary fix? 19:06 martian523 but it was working fine before? 19:06 rangi It's just a work around 19:05 rangi It didn't 19:05 martian523 but why would the settings change by itself? 19:05 francharb hi rangi cait 19:05 martian523 o nice, fixed 19:04 cait hi francharb 19:04 rangi Hi francharb 19:00 * francharb waves 19:00 martian523 useauthorities -- use 19:00 rangi Try switch autocreate off please 19:00 martian523 dontmerge -- don't 18:59 martian523 biblioadds -- allow 18:59 cait the pref and the setting, don't have to give the whole sentence - will make it easier to get into the same situation 18:59 martian523 autocreate -- generate 18:59 cait just list them up to down maybe? 18:58 martian523 autocreate? biblioadds? 18:58 martian523 which preference 18:58 martian523 i'm there 18:57 cait martian523: can you go into the system preferences editor and look what your settings are on the authorities tab? 18:55 martian523 it's been fine before the update to 3.8.7 18:55 martian523 i haven't changed anything in authorities 18:55 martian523 but can't save it, 18:54 martian523 so i was trying to replace a record by doing a Z39.5 search, the title came out, uploaded it, 18:54 rangi And what your sysprefs are around authorities 18:53 cait martian523: can you give the exact steps of what you were doing? 18:52 rangi Recreate the bug 18:52 martian523 recreate the authorities? 18:51 rangi And I currently can't 18:51 rangi First I have to be able to recreate it 18:51 martian523 thanks 18:51 cait martian523: rangi is release maintainer - he can actually do that :) 18:50 rangi With the fix 18:50 cait good morning rangi 18:50 rangi If I can track down the root of the problem I'll release a 3.8.7-1 18:50 cait I will keep an eye on it, but you are cc now - so you should see when something happens there 18:48 martian523 i think it's the right bug 18:47 martian523 yep 18:46 cait everything worked before your updte? 18:46 cait yep you can do that too :) 18:45 martian523 or i can create a new bug? =) 18:44 cait I hope we got the right bug 18:44 cait yeah, you shoud be on the cc list on the right side now 18:42 martian523 i added my comment to the bug, so I would get a notification when someone comment? 18:37 cait :) 18:34 martian523 i very much appreciate everyone working for koha 18:34 martian523 hopefully it will be fixed very soon 18:31 cait that's why it would be cool if you updated with your problem - and we can give it a higher severity 18:31 cait but there is no patch yet :( 18:30 cait as soon as there is a patch, your it person should be able to fix it 18:30 martian523 import or add or edit? 18:30 martian523 so does that mean i can't do any records now? 18:30 cait hopefully it will be fixed in 3.8.8 (I would think so) 18:30 cait martian523: what you can do - add your problem descrpition to the last bug - it will also add you as cc to the bug report, so you will get notice when something moves there 18:29 cait I think that last one could be it 18:28 cait ok 18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9149 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Patch 8823 introduces reference to non-existent function 18:28 cait bug 9149 18:28 cait jcamins_away: ? 18:28 cait hm still trying to find the bug report I was thinking about 18:28 martian523 so is there a bug fix? 18:27 martian523 pretty nice 18:27 cait martian523: being a librarian is nice, I am one too :) 18:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9110 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , GetAuthorizedHeading Can't call method "field" on an undefined 18:27 cait or hm bug 9110 18:27 martian523 i'm just a librarian, not really know IT stuff 18:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8829 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , can't import authorities 18:27 cait maybe bug 8829 18:26 martian523 nope 18:25 cait martian523: have you checked bugzilla? 18:25 cait I think there was a bug filed for a mising subroutine in 3.8 18:24 martian523 Undefined subroutine &C4::AuthoritiesMarc::GetAuthorizedHeading called at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 667. 18:24 martian523 hi, after the upgrade to 3.8.7, i got this error when trying to replace / edit record 18:20 cait oleonard++ :) 18:11 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails NExpress Reports training http://t.co/qpUu2lNo" 17:35 jcamins_away Papering implies the more accurate, "every single space in that building is going to have a letter from us." 17:34 chris_n :) 17:33 jcamins_away Pepper implies it will be scattered. 17:33 jcamins_away chris_n: paper. 17:33 chris_n paper or pepper? 17:32 * jcamins prepares to paper the NYS Department of Civil Service with legal threats. 17:18 tcohen jcamins++ for pointing me to gerrit 17:11 talljoy i did. this is an indexing thing. i need to upgrade this install and poke around a bit. Thanks! 17:10 jcamins Good. 17:10 jcamins Oh, yes, you said that. 17:10 jcamins And you did reindex the bibs, right? 17:10 talljoy okay, i'll poke around there.thanks! 17:09 jcamins talljoy: biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl 17:08 talljoy where is that found the reference to index an? bib1.att? 17:08 talljoy i just feel like i'm missing something obvious about the indexing or config files. some reason why it won't (or hasn't) indexed 'an' 17:07 talljoy i didn't symlink for this version since it was "installed" from scratch yesterday. 17:06 talljoy yes i did. i am going to move up to 3.8.5 then symlink the kohaclone files to dev and then reindex. 17:06 jcamins And you reindexed the bibs, right? 17:05 jcamins That said, I've never heard of that being a problem. 17:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8665 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , DOM indexing fails to index some bib records 17:05 jcamins bug 8665 17:05 jcamins Where did I get that number? 17:05 jcamins No. 17:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8557 normal, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Stable , in orderreceive.tt and serials-edit.tt the use of a barcode scan send the form unexpectedly 17:05 jcamins bug 8557 17:04 talljoy i can go up to 3.8.5. but no higher since that the version they are on. 17:04 jcamins (looking) 17:04 jcamins If I had to guess, I'd say this is probably a result of bug... 17:04 talljoy yeah, don't ask. lol 17:04 jcamins talljoy: 3.8.4? 17:02 talljoy fyi- this is a fresh install (git) 3.8.4 including the makefile and make install run. 17:01 talljoy and I can't search the catalog for the an=### and get results. 17:01 talljoy but the authority page is all showing 0 biblio(s) 17:01 talljoy the linker is working beautifully, btw on this data set. 17:00 jcamins talljoy: DOM. 16:58 talljoy sorry...authority linker 16:58 talljoy first let me start with a basic question. Does the authority indexer work better (or no difference) with dom or grs-1 biblio indexing? 16:55 drojf jcamins++ # guidelines! 16:55 talljoy jcamins: i've got a question on indexes for you if you have a sec. (or anyone else who loves indices as much as jcamins....) 16:52 * drojf could use a foo tonic 16:32 libsysguy Wants to start a bar called foo 16:32 jcamins lol 16:32 chris_n well, bar of course 16:32 * jcamins wonders what is there. 16:32 chris_n hehe 16:31 libsysguy did you just join the #foo board chris_n 16:31 chris_n snap 16:31 chris_n try /join #foo 16:31 jcamins cdalibtek: you need a forward slash instead of a backslash. 16:31 * chris_n is enjoying the stimulating discussion on QA 16:31 cdalibtek \join #bws-support 16:30 cdalibtek \join bws-support 16:29 wahanui Please follow the guidelines at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commit_messages when writing commit messages. 16:29 jcamins commit messages? 16:29 jcamins commit messages is <reply> Please follow the guidelines at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commit_messages when writing commit messages. 16:29 jcamins commit messages? 16:20 reiveune bye 16:15 kf :) 16:14 jcamins I won't even get annoyed. 16:13 jcamins If you're new, I'll guide you through it. 16:13 kf but hopefully we will see some new devs during 3.12 release cycle :) 16:13 kf not saying we have a current case 16:13 jcamins kf: yes, but the people who are failing to follow them are almost universally experienced developers. 16:12 kf so maybe be a bit lenient with people not so experienced? :) only a gentle reminder to us all 16:12 kf jcamins: I think I like guidelines, but we should try not to scare new contributors away 16:11 kf heh 16:06 * jcamins just takes a random commit message he wrote. 16:05 jcamins *? 16:05 jcamins Okay, does anyone have a particularly good commit message they would like to propose for my guidelines on commit messages. 16:02 kf but yes, that would be very helpful 16:02 kf oleonard: almost - it's not authorities but on bibliographic records 16:01 vfernandes :) 16:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9169 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Wrap authorities relator code in <span> to allow for CSS customization 16:01 oleonard kf: Does Bug 9169 get it right? 16:01 jcamins If you sign off on patches, you can even get thanked twice. :) 16:01 jcamins vfernandes: I think you have a very good chance of that. :) 16:01 oleonard You're on the right track vfernandes 16:00 vfernandes now I want to be in the thanks list of the next Koha release :P 15:56 vfernandes done 15:54 vfernandes I was looking for it but I wasn't found it 15:54 jcamins It doesn't show up unless you're logged in. 15:54 jcamins vfernandes: oh, are you logged in? 15:54 jcamins There's an edit button. 15:54 vfernandes forget it :P 15:53 jcamins vfernandes: just edit it. :) 15:53 vfernandes how I can add myself? I can only edit channel bot list ... 15:50 oleonard I see 15:50 kf + <!-- add relator code too between brackets--> << those :) 15:49 kf oleonard: they are shown in square brackets behind the names 15:49 kf vfernandes: you can add yourself :) totally legal 15:49 jcamins vfernandes: add yourself to the list! 15:49 jcamins $4 and $e 15:49 vfernandes I want to be on IRC regulars :P 15:49 kf the relator codes 15:49 * magnuse wanders off to make dinner 15:49 oleonard Which information are you talking about? 15:48 kf until we find a good solution for this, could you add a class to make it possible to hide the information? 15:48 jcamins kf: ooh, good idea. css_classes++ 15:48 magnuse jcamins: good idea - there were a couple of mails yesterday that struck me as candidates for copying to the wiki 15:48 kf oleonard: our data contains the english codes, but that is often not really what end users understand 15:48 oleonard kf: Sure 15:47 kf oleonard: can I request something for this bug? 15:47 jcamins I guess I should update the coding guidelines. 15:46 oleonard And hey you people who are also regulars, add yourself to that list! 15:46 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 15:46 magnuse @later tell wizzyrea: you might want to update http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars ;-) 15:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8661 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , break out additional authors in opac like in staff 15:44 oleonard I submitted an update to bug 8661 jcamins, not sure if you want another signoff or not 15:42 oleonard I'm a fan of grouching, but also of doing something about it. 15:41 kf oleonard: I hope you are right - doing something about it is always better than being grouchy, but sometimes it's really really hard to not grouch. 15:41 magnuse kf: nom nom! 15:41 magnuse there is no sanity clause! 15:41 jcamins lol 15:41 * kf sends some cookies to magnuse and oleonard too 15:40 kf lol 15:40 * magnuse imagines jcamins with large painted-on eyebrows and moustache, and smoking on a cigar 15:40 * kf sends cookies and eats some herself 15:40 magnuse groucho! 15:34 jcamins Well, we'll see if that's true. 15:34 oleonard Also: with great power comes the ability to do something about some of the things that make you grouchy. 15:33 jcamins oleonard: yep. 15:33 oleonard With great power comes great grouchiness. 15:33 * jcamins is very grouchy sometimes. 15:30 magnuse yay 15:30 * druthb is very silly sometimes. 15:29 druthb lulz 15:29 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. 15:29 druthb wahanui: magnuse? 15:29 druthb hm. wahanui: magnuse? 15:25 magnuse hehe 15:25 jcamins lol 15:25 druthb Since wahanui says things that don't make much sense sometimes, I presume male. 15:24 druthb yes. 15:24 jcamins BTW, is wahanui male or female? 15:23 jcamins Listen to wahanui, folks, s/he knows of whence s/he speaks. 15:23 wahanui you are very, very irascible. 15:22 jcamins jcamins? 15:22 wahanui okay, jcamins. 15:22 jcamins wahanui: jcamins is also very, very irascible. 15:22 wahanui you are too young to be the President of the United States. Which is a pity, because he had the votes at the 3.12 election. 15:22 jcamins jcamins? 15:22 jcamins jcamins 15:00 kf I see no harm done adding it - it will cause no regression and people can decide if it's a blocker for them or not 14:59 kf oleonard: I think maybe have a big note - and tell people that it#s a new feature they can use, but there is one caveat? 14:57 jcamins oleonard: I think the latter, if 7067 passes QA. 14:57 oleonard So one question is whether such a change to process_message_queue blocks 7067, or whether 7067 could be pushed with warnings to the user 14:52 oleonard That seems like it might work 14:51 kf like cron themwith different delays 14:51 kf oleonard: could we have a process_message_queue job that is more selective? 14:46 jcamins Hm. 14:46 oleonard But that means that "digest" messages have no time to accumulate before being sent 14:46 oleonard If we want people's self-registration details to go out right away (what a user would expect), the message queue has to be processed every minute or so 14:45 oleonard It's the conflict between the need for self-registrations that notices be sent very frequently, versus the need of "digest" type messages to have time to accumulate 14:45 jcamins I have some time now if you'd like to discuss it now. :) 14:45 jcamins Oh, well, I caught that one. 14:44 oleonard No :) 14:44 jcamins oleonard: is it the lack of unit tests? 14:43 oleonard there's a potential wrinkle with 7067 that I'd like to discuss jcamins when you have time 14:42 kf gmcharlt++ 14:41 magnuse gmcharlt++ 14:40 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #203: "francharb: oh god… it's complicated" (added by wizzyrea at 03:48 PM, May 08, 2012) 14:40 gmcharlt @quote random 14:40 huginn gmcharlt: downloading the Perl source 14:40 gmcharlt @quote radnom 14:37 chris_n wb huginn 14:35 chris_n heya #koha 14:33 kf thx 14:33 kf :) 14:33 magnuse w00t! 14:33 * gmcharlt looks for lost bots 14:33 magnuse yay! 14:33 wahanui gmcharlt is probably an expert in all things library technology. 14:33 magnuse gmcharlt? 14:32 kf oh I miss huginn 14:32 kf bug 7067 14:32 jcamins However, the test plans on the bug receive my approval: they were clearly labelled "test plan." 14:31 jcamins Alas, bug 7067 comes with no unit tests whatsoever. 14:31 Barrc magnuse: Thanks - although I notice (in the slow query log) that other tables are slow too - must be more a MySQL issue - can't figure it though... 14:23 magnuse Barrc: there's a syspref called SessionStorage that lets you choose mysql, memcached or tempfiles for your sessions 14:17 oleonard Great idea 14:16 jcamins Yup. 14:15 oleonard Ah, part of a gift package? 14:15 pastebot "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "oleonard: dal recipe" (23 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/287 14:13 oleonard jcamins: When do we get to see this dal recipe? 14:13 kf tcohen++ :) 14:10 druthb tcohen++ #offer of a better home for the Pootle. 13:53 tcohen thanks, paul_p kf 13:51 kf tcohen: the server moved recently - so I think druthb is trying to figure out what's wrong 13:51 paul_p tcohen = I think here's a problem though, because it's anormally slow 13:50 tcohen paul_p: i was confident that if I sent an email about translate.k-c then it would automagically get fixed. 13:50 nengard_ keep getting kicked 13:50 kf but you found it :) 13:50 kf ah 13:50 oleonard (until I checked the log to see if my last message had been heard) 13:49 oleonard_ Nope, nor did I see kf say the same thing :) 13:49 nengard_ not sure that came through 13:49 nengard_ was disconnected just now 13:49 nengard_ oleonard: maxoutstanding 13:48 oleonard_ maxoutstanding. Okay, makes sense. I don't know why I couldn't find it when searching preferences. 13:47 oleonard_ Hey, what was that all about? 13:45 kf maxoutstanding 13:45 kf hah 13:43 oleonard Yes 13:42 kf which version are you looking at? master? 13:42 kf I am not sure we have a pref specific to holds - but we might have 13:41 kf hm 13:41 kf hm 13:40 oleonard "Sorry, you cannot place holds because you owe $26.95." I guess I could trace back from there but I thought someone might remember offhand 13:40 kf oleonard: let me think about it - what's the message you get? 13:40 kf hm 13:40 oleonard I seem to have it turned on and can't figure out how to turn it off :| 13:39 oleonard What setting prevents you from placing holds in the OPAC because of fines? 13:39 Barrc jcamins: thanks - I have already tried that - no joy! 13:38 jcamins Barrc: run OPTIMIZE TABLE sessions; 13:37 jcamins_away Barrc: actuall I do have an idea. 13:22 oleonard Hi 13:22 wahanui hmmm... oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer 13:22 kf h oleonard 13:21 kf but never done it- so I woudl suggest you try and research it online 13:21 kf Barrc: I think you can even configure it 13:18 Barrc kf: Thanks - I'd imagine there'd be some code (CGI) changes to not use the db for session information. Should be handy enough - I will trawl through the list - thanks. Have exhausted all other avenues at this stage! 13:15 kf maybe try google - quite sure it has been on the mailing list before 13:14 kf but we haven't tried them (afaik) like changing the table not to be innodb or not use mysql to store session information 13:14 kf Barrc: I think there are some best practice things you can do 13:06 Barrc kf: yeah, daily. Session table has about 80 rows there now 13:06 kf Barrc: do you regularly tdelete old entries? 12:47 Barrc Would anyone have any ideas as to why a MySQL server install is taking up to 25 seconds to insert into the koha sessions table! Old version of Koha and SQL is optimised as best I can - really strange! 12:39 vfernandes I have this working on 3.2.X 12:38 vfernandes http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5725 12:38 vfernandes ohh bug 5725 12:36 vfernandes I have adapted a patch to add batch edit for records in Koha 3.2.X 12:34 kf nope - only items, not records 12:34 vfernandes shouldn't record batch edit be already in Koha 3.8.X? 12:23 vfernandes I have other modifications that would be nice to have in the labels 11:51 magnuse might be a good idea to run that by chris_n when he shows up perhaps? he coded most of that, i think 11:40 vfernandes the 0.8 and 0.01 values are fixed 11:40 vfernandes my $barcode_width = 0.8 * $self->{'width'}; my $barcode_y_scale_factor = 0.01 * $self->{'height'}; 11:39 kf not sure I haven't used that feature yet 11:39 kf oh on patron cards 11:39 kf it's over 20 right now I think? 11:39 kf hm not sure 11:39 vfernandes *what you 11:38 vfernandes kf what if think about a patch to change the scale and width of barcode in patron cards? 11:17 vfernandes of course... :) 11:16 kf you wouldn't have submitted it otherwise I hope ;) 11:16 vfernandes in my tests worked perfectly :P 11:14 vfernandes this patch I think it's important to be tested and put in the next 3.10.X and 3.8.X 11:13 vfernandes I put the wrong link - http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8347 11:11 vfernandes it is down for a beer eheh 11:10 kf gmcharlt: could you take a look at huginn? - he went missing. 11:09 kf heh hope not 11:09 vfernandes vacations :P 11:09 kf oh no huginn? 11:09 vfernandes http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8334 11:09 kf hm where is our bot? 11:09 kf bug 8347 11:08 vfernandes great new for UNIMARC users: patch for bug 8347 submitted 11:08 vfernandes hi :) 09:44 magnuse vkm: what do you mean by "accession series"? 09:34 vkm our accession series are same? 09:34 vkm i mean at present there are many libraries in our system working independently, so i can i bring together in one koha without effecting there system 09:33 magnuse success! \o/ 09:33 jenkins_koha * christophe.croullebois: Bug 8557: Prevents form validation by pressing "Enter" 09:33 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8559 - conflicting item statuses - QA Followup 09:33 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8559 - conflicting item statuses - Force cancel or revert 09:33 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 9137 - Focus when editing/adding new itemtypes/authorised values 09:33 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 9106 - Filtering list of uncertain price list by owner empties order information 09:33 jenkins_koha * nengard: Follow up to Bug 6680: tiny up download lists formats 09:33 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6680 - simple tidy-up of cart download format descriptions 09:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #23: SUCCESS in 1 hr 22 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/23/ 09:33 jenkins_koha * nengard: Follow up to Bug 6680: tiny up download lists formats 09:33 vkm i mean at present there are many libraries in our system working independently, so i can i bring together in one koha without effecting there system 09:33 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6680 - simple tidy-up of cart download format descriptions 09:33 jenkins_koha * koha: Bug 9098 Replace tabulations by spaces in opac-user.pl 09:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #236: SUCCESS in 1 hr 19 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/236/ 09:31 kf hi magnuse 09:30 vkm hello, is it necessary to keep accession series separate when managing many libraries with single koha 09:04 magnuse kia ora kf 09:04 kf hello #koha 09:04 magnuse which is what i would expect as long as MARC is involved, anyway 09:02 magnuse hm, better do it in an insane way, then i guess 09:01 rangi hmm not that i know of 08:55 magnuse is there a good way to assemble the data fields in marc, like field 008? something that does "insert this char at position 23" in a sane way? 08:17 magnuse i was going to leave a @later for gmcharlt... 08:17 magnuse old habits... 08:17 magnuse gah! 08:16 rangi that wont work without huginn :) 08:16 magnuse @later tell wizzyrea: you might want to update http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars ;-) 08:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #236 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 08:12 magnuse no huginn today?!? 08:11 magnuse @wunder boo 08:11 magnuse success! \o/ 08:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #23 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 08:10 jenkins_koha koha: Bug 9098 Replace tabulations by spaces in opac-user.pl 08:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #22: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/22/ 08:04 wahanui hola, lds 08:04 lds hello 07:52 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @Tredok: "How to successfully upgrade from 3.8.x to 3.10.x http://t.co/1VAly1uP #kohails" 07:40 reiveune hi cait magnuse :) 07:40 cait europe waking up :) 07:40 cait and hi reiveune :) 07:40 cait hi paul_p 07:38 magnuse kia ora cait alex_a_ paul_p reiveune 07:38 wahanui hola, reiveune 07:38 reiveune hello 07:38 paul_p hello #koha 07:32 alex_a_ hello cait 07:31 cait hi magnuse and alex_a_ :) 07:30 alex_a_ bonjour 07:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #22 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 07:04 * magnuse waves 05:51 cait hi #koha 04:38 jcamins_away Good night. :) 04:38 jcamins_away Yeah, that's him. 04:38 jcamins_away lol 04:22 wizzyrea why do i imagine that this is myshkin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gnfcdOZTsc&feature=player_embedded 04:22 wizzyrea I suppose not 04:22 jcamins It doesn't offer any clever headings for the recipe, though. 04:12 jcamins I like crepe expectations. 04:02 wizzyrea show me your cocoa face? 04:02 wizzyrea ^^ 04:01 ibeardslee Thomas Creper? 03:57 wizzyrea Crepe Cod? 03:57 wizzyrea Crepe fear? 03:57 wizzyrea crepe expectations? 03:52 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9132: Paging through OPAC authority search results does not work (followup 1) input with and_ora instread of and_or 03:52 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9132: Paging through OPAC authority search results does not work 03:52 jenkins_koha * tomascohen: Bug 9142 - Remove the use of subtests 03:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #21: SUCCESS in 1 hr 23 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/21/ 03:49 jenkins_koha tomascohen: Bug 9142 - Remove the use of subtests 03:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #235: SUCCESS in 1 hr 20 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/235/ 03:09 jcamins Punning on the dice game. 03:07 jcamins Dicey crepes? 02:44 wizzyrea hmm 02:37 trea hehe. now with lots of fiddly bits 02:36 jcamins p-cocoa (rho-cocoa)? 02:32 jcamins So, you did a good job with that, but what about punning names for hot chocolate mixes and crepe mixes? 02:30 wizzyrea hahaha 02:30 trea hehe 02:30 jcamins Dal-i Llentil is doubly perfect because now my instructions for making the dal from scratch are "For reincarnation"! 02:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #235 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #21 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:20 jcamins *Castillian 02:20 jcamins Prunounced "Dali Yentl" in Castilian Spanish. :) 02:19 jcamins Another friend refined it further: Dal-i Llentil. 02:16 * trea bows 02:16 * wizzyrea defers to trea for all things humor now 02:15 jcamins Awesome! That's absolutely perfect. 02:15 wizzyrea :) 02:15 wizzyrea WINNING 02:15 jcamins trea++ 02:15 trea The Dal-i Lentil 02:15 wizzyrea dal-icious something 02:14 eythian Salvador Lentil 02:14 jcamins *"Lentil the matchmaker" doesn't make any sense, I'm thinking that I need a pun based on "dal." 02:13 jcamins Since "lentil the match 02:13 jcamins wizzyrea: you're good at puns... I need a clever name for my dal mix that is a pun on "dal" or "lentil." 01:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9030 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , There is no constraint on aqorders_items 01:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8557 normal, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Master , in orderreceive.tt and serials-edit.tt the use of a barcode scan send the form unexpectedly 01:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8559 normal, P3, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , conflicting item statuses 01:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Focus when editing/adding new itemtypes/authorised values 01:06 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9030: Increment version number 01:06 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9030: Add constraint on aqorders_items.ordernumber 01:06 jenkins_koha * christophe.croullebois: Bug 8557: Prevents form validation by pressing "Enter" 01:06 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8559 - conflicting item statuses - QA Followup 01:06 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8559 - conflicting item statuses - Force cancel or revert 01:06 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 9137 - Focus when editing/adding new itemtypes/authorised values 01:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #959: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/959/ 01:02 wahanui OK, eythian. 01:02 eythian wahanui: burn is <reply>http://i.imgur.com/eGEPE.jpg 00:49 informationstudies good night all =) 00:49 informationstudies i'll try it insha allah , Thank you so much for helping me , 00:48 jcamins Good night. 00:48 drojf uh, it's getting 2am-ish already. good night #koha 00:47 jcamins Yes, definitely do that. 00:47 drojf but while you're at it, download a copy of koha for yourself. it's free and nice, try it out yourself :) 00:47 jcamins informationstudies: drojf meant that there are statistics on the number of people who have downloaded Koha in the last month. 00:46 drojf there is no right number 00:46 informationstudies i must download some statistics , try to find the right number <<< i hope to find it *_* 00:46 jcamins Koha's the best, though, of course. :) 00:45 jcamins There are also Millennium and Voyager libraries in Saudi, and probably a lot of other ILSes in use, too. :) 00:44 informationstudies here in Saudi i think one of the university in Riyadh used Koha . but others used horizon like in my university , 00:44 drojf informationstudies: you could try to get some download statistics too. of course that does not say anything. rangi would probably know some numbers 00:43 jcamins Okay, so it has at least some of the libraries. 00:43 drojf found 263 items where the country is Philippines and the library automation system used is Koha sorted by: Institution, Type,HQ DESC,LibraryName. Showing page 1 of 14. 00:42 jcamins I think almost every library in the Phillipines is using Koha. 00:41 jcamins Tons more, because that doesn't include libraries in the Phillipines, does it? 00:39 drojf so i'd say it's a lot more 00:38 drojf lib-web-cats A directory of libraries throughout the world found 1983 items where the library automation system used is Koha sorted by: Institution, Type,HQ DESC,LibraryName. Showing page 1 of 100 00:38 jcamins The best you could do would be "at least X." 00:38 jcamins There is no definitive answer. 00:38 jcamins informationstudies: you can tell count the number listed on the page there, and/or on libwebcats, but that's not a definitive answer. 00:37 jcamins worldwide koha users is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Users_Worldwide 00:37 informationstudies aha but my doctors give me this assignment =( he wanna numbers 00:37 jcamins koha users worldwide? 00:37 wahanui jcamins: what? 00:37 jcamins wahanui has failed me! 00:37 jcamins worldwide koha installations? 00:37 jcamins koha installations? 00:37 drojf informationstudies: you can search at http://www.librarytechnology.org/libwebcats/ but that only includes those that put it there 00:37 jcamins worldwide koha users? 00:36 jcamins informationstudies: many. 00:35 drojf informationstudies: nobody knows. everybody can download and use it without registration 00:34 informationstudies hi every one , i'm emtenan from kingdom of Saudi Arabia , cs college " information studies " i've one question , How many libraries use Koha system ? ! 00:08 jcamins You have to clear all the criteria before clicking filter. 00:08 jcamins Ah, figured it out. 00:07 jcamins But I can't figure out how to get something to show up in the list of late orders. 00:05 jcamins Oh, figured it out. 00:04 jcamins Where do I set estimated delivery dates?