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23:59 jcamins Of course, I only noticed that after merging.
23:59 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
23:59 jcamins @later tell melia If you run `git config --global user.email "melia AT bywatersolutions.com"` (without the backticks, and putting in an @ character) on the system you're using for testing, your actual e-mail address will appear on signoffs instead of the @test.bywatersolutions.com address. I think rangi and I both have mapping files so that those signoffs are collapsed into your regular address, but you might want to change it anyway.
23:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #959 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9030' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9aa1969a04f25e65264f4ef10bad4e3573a53f22> / Bug 9030: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc5f9034b6fa86ef76e01cb8a5cb8289bc48a8f8> / Bug 9030: Add constraint on aqorders_items.ordernumber <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=550ac77bfd019
23:34 jcamins eythian: commit messages of literary merit receive bonus points.
23:33 * eythian plans commit messages in sonnet form
23:33 jcamins Bet no one realized I was such an irascible martinet. :P
23:31 jcamins And by "want" I of course mean "require."
23:30 jcamins About what I want, I mean. :)
23:30 jcamins wizzyrea: was that clear enough?
23:17 jcamins mveron++
22:52 cait good night #koha!
22:52 cait :)
22:40 wizzyrea coherent test plans.
22:39 wizzyrea :P
22:39 wizzyrea I consider test plans to be not-optional
22:39 jcamins wizzyrea: yes.
22:39 cait eythian, jcamins: what I meant was remind the patch writers to put all needed informaton in the commit message - so I guess we all agree actually :)
22:39 * wizzyrea hopes you actually say what info you want >.>
22:39 cait I step away for a short moment...
22:39 jcamins I'm writing an e-mail saying "if you don't include the information I need on the commit message, you're begging for your patches to be left dangling."
22:39 cait lol
22:38 * eythian goes back to whatever it is he's supposed to be doing
22:38 * jcamins isn't looking.
22:38 jcamins I think.
22:38 eythian I misread then
22:38 eythian ohh
22:38 jcamins Oh, cait's saying the explanation is there.
22:38 wizzyrea I wouldn't mind the description
22:38 eythian that's why I was replying to: <cait> jcamins: to do the patch justice - first sentence in the very first message on the bug :)
22:37 jcamins Otherwise, I have to do the developer's job *and* my job.
22:37 jcamins I want the commit message to tell me what I need to know.
22:36 jcamins I couldn't care less what's there.
22:36 jcamins But I don't look at the first message in the bug.
22:36 eythian jcamins: but what happens if the developer didn't create the bug request? They have no control over the first message on the bug.
22:35 jcamins eythian: sorry, if the developer can't copy and paste, I'm not pushing the patch anyway.
22:35 eythian (I was going to say "coherent", but I guess it's just Cynical Thursday today)
22:35 eythian because if it's a bug reported by an end-user, you can't always expect it to be in that form.
22:34 eythian cait: that wouldn't work
22:31 jcamins Yes, I will do that.
22:31 cait maybe it would be good to remind people to put that into their commit messages too :)
22:30 cait in orderreceive when you receive an order with 'AcqCreateItem ' on 'receiving', you must first fill the 'Item' block and validating by clicking 'add' before clicking the 'save' button.
22:30 cait jcamins: to do the patch justice - first sentence in the very first message on the bug :)
22:29 * jcamins should have a rule: after ten minutes of not being able to figure out what the deal is with a patch, it is automatically failed.
22:28 jcamins It might be there.
22:28 cait I can't find it in th bug now to be honest
22:28 jcamins And to provide test plans.
22:28 cait hehe
22:28 * jcamins has an average of fifteen bugs to review every time he has a chance to work on RMy things. People will learn not to bury the lede. :)
22:28 * francharb waves at #koha
22:28 francharb see ya later!
22:27 cait it's in the bug somewhere
22:26 jcamins I habitually avoid the Acquisitions module because it's bad for my blood pressure.
22:26 jcamins That's why I asked for a detailed test plan from the beginning.
22:26 jcamins I didn't set anything.
22:25 cait it sounds like you hve it 'on order'
22:25 cait jcamins: did you set AcqCreateItem to on receive?
22:25 jcamins The screen that the patch is supposd to change doesn't include anywhere to edit a barcode.
22:24 jcamins The majority of the acquisitions module simply does not do anything at all.
22:24 jcamins No, it's much worse than that.
22:24 cait what exactly are you doing? I could test and I think I don't have one hm.
22:24 cait jcamins: and your default framework has no barcode?
22:23 * cait had a long day
22:23 cait hm rewriting acquisitions
22:23 cait and then you can start on acq
22:23 cait at least until you ifnished the search rewrite ;)
22:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8557 normal, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Passed QA , in orderreceive.tt and serials-edit.tt the use of a barcode scan send the form unexpectedly
22:23 jcamins bug 8557.
22:23 cait and I meant rewriting the acq framework will be hard - so we have to fix it small steps
22:23 cait which patch are you looking at?
22:22 cait jcamins: i agree with you
22:22 jcamins cait: small steps are going to be difficult... I'm not pushing anything that I can't even kind of test.
22:22 cait eah, but let's start with small steps
22:21 cait well...
22:21 jcamins It's called the Acquisitions module.
22:21 jcamins cait: yeah.
22:21 cait jcamins: sounds like a bug
22:18 eythian yeah, it definitely used to work.
22:16 jcamins Hm.
22:15 cait they broke it :(
22:15 cait it used to work
22:15 jcamins Without an ACQ framework, which isn't automatically created, it doesn't work.
22:14 cait ?
22:14 jcamins I always forget that acquisitions DOESN'T WORK ON STOCK KOHA.
22:14 jcamins Oh, right.
22:12 jcamins I don't see anywhere to enter a barcode on the order receive page.
22:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9106 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Filtering list of uncertain price list by owner empties order information
22:12 jenkins_koha oleonard: Bug 9106 - Filtering list of uncertain price list by owner empties order information
22:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #958: SUCCESS in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/958/
22:09 jcamins Merging now.
22:08 drojf jcamins: fingers crossed
22:04 jcamins Got up to 695k... that's farther than we got before.
21:58 rangi probably not
21:58 cait is it iintentional the cart pic is missing?
21:58 cait but still some weirdess
21:58 cait rangi: looks lots better
21:56 eythian s/ing/ed/
21:56 eythian jcamins: new packages uploading
21:56 rangi shift refresh now?
21:53 cait but yes for the version :)
21:52 rangi yeah, ill fix
21:52 cait that does look a bit weird
21:52 cait /opac-tmpl/prog/en/css/http://poe.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz/design/CatalystIT-DESIGN/Koha/mykohatheme/en/css/mykoha.css" />
21:52 cait rangi: layout still broken . checking version now
21:52 rangi ah probably
21:52 eythian it doesn't reference files on an internal server does it?
21:51 rangi it is 3.8.6 for you eh?
21:51 wahanui it has been said that the cart is turned on, not sure lists should matter? (in the staff client)
21:51 cait diyoumaybe miss moving a separate css file?
21:51 rangi the cart?
21:51 rangi i had to do a couple then it seemed come right
21:51 cait yep i did
21:51 cait hm css
21:51 rangi can you do a shift-refresh please
21:51 cait rangi: broken js for me hm
21:51 rangi naw, but can you check that is 3.8.6 for you?
21:50 cait rangi: did you develop a hobbit mobile theme?
21:50 rangi now running from the demo server
21:50 rangi http://demo.mykoha.co.nz/
21:47 eythian jcamins: ta
21:43 cait and cookies for everyone giving an opinion on my latest mail to koha devel :)
21:43 jcamins I'd take those either way. :)
21:42 * cait shall send you cookies
21:41 jcamins If it dies again I shall be very unhappy.
21:40 jcamins 467k records in.
21:39 rangi nice!
21:38 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
21:38 jcamins @later tell eythian I have a new version of the amd64 packages for libdigest-jhash-perl at http://kohadev.cpbibliography.com/libdigest-jhash-amd64.tar.gz
21:37 jcamins I think I got it.
21:33 rangi ah yep
21:33 jcamins The 32-bit package has Squeeze dependencies.
21:33 jcamins Oh!
21:33 jcamins Hm.
21:33 jcamins Right.
21:33 jcamins Oh.
21:33 rangi i just did, but its quantal, so 5.14
21:32 jcamins rangi: do you think you could build a package using dh-make-perl and tell me what dependencies the package ends up with?
21:31 * magnuse wishes #koha a good night or other time of the day
21:30 magnuse i'll do some more research in a day or two, and let y'all know
21:29 magnuse ...is what it says now
21:29 jcamins So much for that idea.
21:29 jcamins Oh well.
21:29 jcamins I've had that happen before, though I thought was fixed.
21:29 magnuse 12000000?
21:29 jcamins magnuse: gibberish in your timeout syspref.
21:28 magnuse it could have been a mysql problem, somehow
21:28 magnuse plain vanilla install of the 3.10 packages
21:28 jcamins debuild uses fakeroot.
21:28 rangi hmm
21:28 magnuse rangi: nope
21:28 magnuse sysprefs not saving
21:28 rangi magnuse: using memcached ?
21:28 jcamins Okay, that didn't work.
21:27 magnuse getting logged out of the staff client
21:27 magnuse weirdness
21:27 jcamins What problems?
21:26 magnuse my problems from earlier seems to have been solved by removing all the other instances on that server. must research it some more, but not now
21:24 cait hehe
21:24 cait he knows why
21:24 cait rangi++
21:24 cait :)
21:23 magnuse rangi++ jcamins++
21:19 garyb Thanks, all. I'll stick with 3.8 for now and try the upgrade later.
21:18 rangi awesome thanks
21:18 rangi >= 5.10 anyway
21:18 jcamins Yeah, now that you explained how to do it, I'll build the package and leave it for eythian.
21:18 rangi that is happy wiht 5.10
21:18 rangi we'll have a libdigest-jhash-perl_0.07-2 or something
21:17 rangi actually no
21:17 rangi we'll probably have a 3.10.0-2 shortly
21:17 jcamins I hadn't thought of just logging into pbuilder and doing it there.
21:17 jcamins *clever
21:17 jcamins rangi: ooooh, cever.
21:17 rangi yep they will be, it'll be something fixed before 3.10.1
21:16 garyb Thanks rangi, but I'm also concerned that others running 64-bit squeeze are seeing the same issue
21:16 rangi at least i think that would work
21:16 rangi and do it in there :)
21:16 rangi sudo pbuilder --login
21:15 rangi but first you would do
21:15 rangi but yes for general you would do all the above
21:15 rangi (thats only fixing it for his situation)
21:15 rangi sudo dpkg -i ../libdigest-jhash-perl_0.07-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
21:15 rangi so garyb could now
21:14 rangi that will build a package that will work fine on my system
21:14 rangi debuild -us -uc
21:14 rangi libdigest-jhash-perl (0.07-1ubuntu1) quantal; urgency=low
21:13 rangi mine now says
21:13 rangi edit the changelog
21:13 rangi dch -i
21:12 jcamins Maybe if I tried pdebuild that'd do it.
21:12 rangi cd Digest-JHash-0.07
21:11 rangi dh-make-perl make --cpan Digest::Jhash
21:10 rangi and garyb you could try this
21:10 rangi jcamins: what i do is this
21:10 jcamins rangi: it seems to be setting the version in spite of the fact that I'm using eythian's configuration.
21:10 jcamins rangi: I didn't generate the control file, though.
21:09 rangi jcamins: you edit the control file
21:09 rangi heres a trick you can do
21:09 jcamins I don't know how to change the version of Perl that my packages ask for.
21:09 rangi right
21:09 garyb No, 64-bit
21:09 jcamins garyb: it depends if the package manager gets access to a 64-bit system.
21:09 rangi garyb: you are running 32 bit now?
21:07 garyb Is this something that might be addressed in 3.10.1?
21:06 jcamins Unfortunately, I don't know how to change that.
21:06 jcamins garyb: that's because the 64bit one was built on my system, wich has Perl 5.14.2, apparently.
21:06 drojf hrm
21:06 garyb I have. That was one of the first things I found online. While the "Packages" file for 32-bit lists 5.10.1, the 64-bit one lists 5.14.2
21:05 jcamins drojf: perl 5.14 is from Ubuntu.
21:04 drojf garyb: have you tried dist-upgrade?
20:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #958 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:57 * jcamins grumbles.
20:57 jcamins Wait, we still can't switch off ICU for just one database.
20:56 lavamind thanks
20:56 jcamins Right... back to CHR I go for bibs.
20:56 lavamind yes!
20:56 jcamins You can copy the index files.
20:55 lavamind my question is about zebra : can I simply copy the index files as well, or do I need to absolutely generate them with koha-rebuild
20:55 jcamins lavamind: you can copy the database as many times as you'd like using mysqldump.
20:55 lavamind I would like to run multiple instances of Koha, starting from an identical database
20:54 lavamind hello
20:53 jcamins Right... problem seems to be a massively corrupted record + ICU.
20:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9106' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=51b671224f08f40518e40461328d07ebd5df0968>
20:50 jcamins garyb: I can tell you that the dependency is unnecessary, but I don't know how to work around it.
20:50 jcamins It hates me, clearly.
20:50 garyb Doing the upgrade from 3.8 --> 3.10 on 64-bit Debian 6.0.6 using koha-common package. I keep getting the message that the package is being "kept back". It appears libdigest-jhash-perl has a dependency of perlapi-5.14.2 but the standard version of perl in squeeze is 5.10.1-17. Is there a workaround?
20:49 rambutan hummm
20:49 jcamins After finishing.
20:49 jcamins rambutan: alas, it segfaulted.
20:48 rambutan jcamins: did the zebra index finish OK?
20:46 oleonard jcamins++
20:44 jenkins_koha nengard: update more cataloging images
20:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #242: STILL FAILING in 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/242/
20:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #242 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 5 days ago)
20:43 jcamins Okay, there it is.
20:43 jcamins Indeed it does not.
20:42 jcamins oleonard: let me check.
20:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9106 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Filtering list of uncertain price list by owner empties order information
20:41 oleonard jcamins: Bug 9106 says "pushed to master" but as far as I can tell it hasn't been
20:39 drojf sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
20:37 garyb Hello...hope someone can help with an upgrade of 3.8 to 3.10
20:35 cait hm not yet
20:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5280 enhancement, P4, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Fix password field in members.pl so that the password is masked as it is entered
20:33 oleonard Does anyone else see this "Debug is on (level 1)" message on memberentry.pl, mentioned on Bug 5280? I don't.
20:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7067 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , allow patron self registration via the opac
20:31 oleonard jcamins_away: Rebased patches submitted to Bug 7067.
20:29 jenkins_koha * nengard: update more cataloging images
20:29 jenkins_koha * nengard: update analytics
20:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #241: STILL FAILING in 19 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/241/
20:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #241 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 5 days ago)
20:14 jenkins_koha nengard: update cataloging images
20:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #240: STILL FAILING in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/240/
20:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #240 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 5 days ago)
20:10 nengard what should show in 'used in'?
20:10 nengard I do see 'Host records' with a link though
20:10 nengard but I don't see anything under the 'Used In' column on any of my records
20:09 nengard The analytics section says "To view all of the items tied to the host record, do a search for the record, click the Analytics tab on the left and the analytics tied to each barcode will be shown under the "Used in" column."
20:09 nengard i'm working on the manual (obviously) and I need some help
19:59 jenkins_koha nengard: update overdues image
19:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #239: STILL FAILING in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/239/
19:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #239 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 5 days ago)
19:56 magnuse [off] login with demo/demo if you want to try it
19:55 cait hm
19:55 magnuse marc21.testing.bibkat.no and marc21.testing.bibkat.no:8080
19:55 cait do you have both on different domains?
19:54 magnuse huh?
19:54 magnuse and opac does not show me as logged in even though i am logged into staff
19:54 magnuse i'm also getting logged out of the staff side a lot
19:51 magnuse are there any extra steps required?
19:51 magnuse weirdness: i switch to the cssr theme, but nothing happens. on 3.10 running off the packages
19:49 magnuse yay
19:49 cait :)
19:48 rangi ah yep thats seen a few conferences :)
19:47 magnuse rangi: cool 3d logo too!
19:43 kathryn and a good evening to you cait :)
19:43 cait good morning kathryn :)
19:41 francharb hi :)
19:39 rangi hi francharb
19:39 cait :)
19:38 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/8228042514/in/photostream <-- now
19:38 * francharb waves
19:38 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/8179693263/in/photostream
19:38 rangi progress is being made
19:37 rangi daniel is gonna put it in the newsletter anyway i think
19:37 rambutan uh, oh, yea. I did. I see it.
19:36 rambutan uh....
19:35 rangi you didn't see my email?
19:35 rambutan rangi is collecting library cards?
19:34 rangi heh
19:34 cait drojf: same for us
19:34 magnuse hm, i could send you a card from the naval academy, but then i would have to kill you ;-)
19:31 drojf we don't have library cards :(
19:29 cait BSZ own library is actually using Koha :)
19:29 rangi i have none from germany yet!
19:28 rangi heh
19:28 * cait starts printing library cards
19:28 rangi (ill post some of our koha stickers too)
19:28 rangi the prize is 2 beverages of your choosing in reno
19:27 cait oleonard++
19:27 magnuse oleonard++
19:27 oleonard Hooray!
19:26 rangi oleonard wins the prize, first library card to arrive
19:18 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @BulganUgur: "Koha 3.10 Türkçe çevirilerine başladık #kohails"
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19:08 magnuse it hits the center of my town on ~9th of january, though
19:08 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (7:50 PM CET on November 28, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
19:08 magnuse @wunder boo
19:07 cait ew
19:07 magnuse but i will not see the sun from where i live until ~9th of february...
19:07 magnuse hm, it's been a while since i saw any aurora borealis
19:04 drojf he may at least have northern lights
19:02 jcamins cait: maybe now you can commiserate with magnuse? :)
19:02 cait :(
19:02 cait no sun here... for like 2 weeks...
18:56 magnuse Fr is the same in nb-NO and en
18:55 magnuse oleonard: i think i did piack out the abbreviations, and translate them
18:53 trea heh
18:53 rangi It's a new record
18:53 rangi 3 sunny days in a row
18:53 trea hi rangi
18:53 rangi Hey trea
18:50 rangi http://i.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/8007530/Library-is-close-to-going-electronic
18:47 rangi Nice
18:47 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
18:47 rangi @wunder nzwn
18:34 wahanui Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
18:34 rangi Morning
18:15 drojf who has time to read the whole book? ;)
18:15 drojf :D
18:14 jcamins Then I realized that it's page 2 of the conclusion.
18:14 jcamins I was very impressed.
18:14 jcamins drojf: here's one with underlining on page 78.
18:11 jcamins lol
18:11 drojf "please keep the hard work" vs. "thank you for your hard work"…
18:11 jcamins 96k in.
18:08 drojf if i was more fond of live cds i could make one of koha as a business card for the workshop ;)
18:06 drojf hola cait
18:03 oleonard I think so
18:03 * cait waves to drojf
18:02 cait ah, now I finished reading back, was that the answer you were looking for? :)
18:02 cait so they are probably confusing for some translators
18:02 cait I think I caught the others in translation, but not everyone checks where the string comes from
18:01 cait for German
18:01 cait Saturday is Samstag ... lots of them are the same
18:01 cait Friday is Freitag
18:01 cait oleonard: Montag is Monday
18:01 oleonard cait, see my datepicker localization question above
18:00 wahanui oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
18:00 cait oleonard?
17:59 drojf probably that, yes
17:59 oleonard I could see how having, for instance, "Fr" come up in the translation process could be confusing.
17:58 drojf not sure why they are not translated
17:58 drojf oleonard: they are common in german
17:57 oleonard cait? magnuse?
17:57 tcohen that, and IO are the bottlenecks
17:57 oleonard In debugging localization of the datepicker I notice people aren't translating the two-letter day abbreviations. Are these not common in other languages or are the strings too ambiguous in the translation process?
17:57 jcamins In fact, it almost surely was.
17:56 jcamins Though that's a good point... could be that's what all the time was taken up with.
17:56 jcamins tcohen: yeah, I already had everything exported.
17:56 tcohen jcamins, for rebuild_zebra, for the export step (which takes way too much time without that switch)
17:55 cait hi chris_n
17:55 jcamins tcohen: nosanitize is for exporting, though, isn't it?
17:54 tcohen if you have a bunch of RAM maybe a tmpfs and then copy to destination
17:54 chris_n hi cait
17:54 tcohen you should use nosanitize BTW
17:53 * chris_n suggests jcamins try throwing straw or hay instead
17:53 * jcamins throws Zebra a bunch more RAM, starts again.
17:53 jcamins So clearly it doesn't scale linearly.
17:52 jcamins Except it was running for almost four and hadn't finished.
17:52 vfernandes 2 hours... autch :P
17:51 jcamins That should be just under two hours.
17:51 wahanui 6489
17:51 jcamins wahanui: 9 * 721
17:51 jcamins 9 * 721
17:51 jcamins It takes 9 seconds per thousand records.
17:48 jcamins It died.
17:48 jcamins It finished.
17:48 jcamins Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!
17:45 jcamins When it finishes I am copying the Zebra indexes and trying to avoid ever reindexing again.
17:42 jcamins Yeah... unfortunately I didn't use enough '-v's and I'm not even getting any progress information.
17:38 vfernandes and it was slow slow slow
17:38 vfernandes 720k? the maximum that I've reindexed was 250k
17:37 jcamins Reindexing 720k records is painfully slow.
17:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9145 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Authorities: standard language for UNIMARC
17:35 vfernandes bug 9145 :)
17:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9144 trivial, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , bulkmarcimport.pl - Problem identifying errors
17:35 vfernandes that should be a system preference and should be changed from enhancement to major bug (maybe)... I've already done the same thing to the authorities (bug 9144)...
17:33 jcamins vfernandes: that will make a lot of people very happy, I think. :)
17:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8347 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre'
17:32 vfernandes tomorrow i'll focus my energy solving bug 8347
17:30 vfernandes jcamins second patch for the bug sent :)
17:28 jcamins vfernandes++
17:25 nengard don't want to wake him
17:25 nengard trying so hard not to laugh at him
17:25 jcamins Hehe.
17:25 nengard and in the one on his back his head is under the blanket
17:25 nengard the ones with his head showing were this morning
17:25 nengard hehe - those are all Beau
17:24 jcamins nengard: does the gray one have a head?
17:23 nengard the view from where i sit http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/archives/date-posted/2012/11/28/
17:22 jcamins Yeah, I have seen that.
17:22 jcamins lol
17:22 drojf so students don't read the whole book and can start with fresh underlining power at page 278
17:21 drojf i think i have seen underlining everywhere. but that may be just because of different articles in a volume
17:21 jcamins lol
17:20 drojf interesting. you should get some funding and write a paper on it ;)
17:18 jcamins I have cataloged dozens if not hundreds of books with underlining, and I don't think I've ever seen it past page 50 or so.
17:18 jcamins Does anyone ever get past page 50?
17:18 jcamins You know how some people are underliners, and they underline things in books they read?
17:18 jcamins So here is a question.
17:16 drojf maybe that is where our friend with the opac colour came from. he still had the shouting
17:16 jcamins lol
17:16 oleonard Well, not especially I guess... Maybe it's more like asking a question of a small pile of rocks.
17:15 jcamins oleonard: very active?
17:15 oleonard Man, asking a question in #jquery is like shouting into a tornado.
17:14 jenkins_koha * nengard: add more 'get there' statements
17:14 jenkins_koha * nengard: update hold image
17:14 jenkins_koha * nengard: updated holds section with links
17:14 jenkins_koha * nengard: update hold list image
17:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #238: STILL FAILING in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/238/
17:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #238 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 4 days ago)
17:13 drojf :)
17:13 jcamins "wtf?" and "bwahahahaha" come to mind, depending on your view of humanity.
17:13 drojf i don't find appropriate words to express my feelings about that mail you got.
17:11 drojf ha yes i just saw it. always trust the gut feeling :D
17:11 jcamins drojf: no, that was koyauni.
17:10 drojf oh it's the indian world this time
17:07 jcamins He has an unusual amount of self-entitlement.
17:06 jcamins Ah.
17:06 drojf i actually meant "beware", you will behold it later ;)
17:05 drojf behold the wrath of "all the people in the arabic world" regarding not making it easy to search non-roman characters
17:04 drojf :P
17:04 jcamins drojf: if only we had a Google Group, eh?
17:00 jcamins He is providing an incentive to *not* make it easy to search non-Roman character sets.
16:59 * jcamins sends a _very_ tetchy e-mail.
16:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: add description to holds
16:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: add more 'get there' statements
16:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: update patron permissions image
16:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: add 'get there' statements
16:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #237: STILL FAILING in 19 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/237/
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16:53 drojf could somebody mute/unsub the out of office person on the patch list please? december 10 is still some time away
16:53 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Free Intro to Koha 3.10 Webinars http://t.co/jy9SwToL"
16:49 jcamins I'm very excited for it!
16:49 jcamins Ooh, I'd forgotten about that logging module.
16:43 jenkins_koha * nengard: update FRBRizeEditions preferences
16:43 jenkins_koha * nengard: fix formatting of AutoSelfCheckAllowed pref
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16:43 jenkins_koha * nengard: update FRBRizeEditions preferences
16:43 jenkins_koha * nengard: fix formatting of AutoSelfCheckAllowed pref
16:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #4: SUCCESS in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/4/
16:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #236 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 4 days ago)
16:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #4 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:40 jcamins Take your time.
16:40 jcamins Okay, good.
16:40 oleonard yes
16:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Patch doesn't apply , allow patron self registration via the opac
16:40 jcamins Bug 7067 maybe.
16:39 jcamins oleonard: did you see I asked you to rebase some patchset?
16:31 magnuse jcamins: cool
16:31 jcamins magnuse: if it hasn't been pushed to stable within a month, it's not going.
16:30 magnuse when a bug is "pushed to master", how do we know it's not a candidate for pushing to stable? should we assume that it will be pushed to stable quickly after it has been pushed to master or not at all?
16:29 jenkins_koha nengard: update message crons
16:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #235: STILL FAILING in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/235/
16:29 jenkins_koha nengard: update message crons
16:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #3: SUCCESS in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/3/
16:29 magnuse oleonard++
16:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #235 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 4 days ago)
16:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #3 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: FIXED)
16:24 oleonard I encourage everyone to generate a list of bugs which you have reported which are marked as pushed. Those should be the easiest ones for you to confirm as fixed.
16:23 * chris_n gives oleonard a pat on the back and more strong coffee
16:22 jcamins oleonard++
16:22 vfernandes gives the borrowernumber
16:21 oleonard Okay, the list of bugs marked "pushed to master" is now down to below 500. *whew*
16:19 jcamins That's what I was thinking of. Yes.
16:18 drojf jcamins: i am shocked! :P
16:18 vfernandes $loggedinuser in get template gives userid logged?
16:18 drojf heh
16:18 jcamins :P
16:18 jcamins drojf: a sane one.
16:18 drojf (17:12:44) jcamins: I actually didn't memorize every single line in the entire Koha codebase. <--- WHAT KIND OF RELEASE MANAGER ARE YOU??!!?!11
16:16 vfernandes roger that :)
16:15 jcamins It should be near the top of each script... something to do with permissions.
16:15 jcamins I actually didn't memorize every single line in the entire Koha codebase. I just judiciously copy and paste what I need.
16:15 jcamins I am confident you can find it.
16:15 jcamins It's in every single script.
16:14 vfernandes how in perl I check if a user have permissions to something? I don't want to search it on the code :P
16:13 vfernandes i'll try to change the code to use user permissions
16:13 vfernandes ok...
16:12 jcamins You can just put the English string in.
16:12 jcamins You don't have to translate it.
16:12 jcamins You must add the permission to every single language.
16:12 jcamins Yes.
16:12 vfernandes there is the need to change all language/mandatory/userpermission.pl?
16:09 drojf oleonard: services: seo services ;)
16:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7673 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Failed QA , New patron permissions
16:09 jcamins Bug 7673, maybe.
16:09 jcamins vfernandes: I don't have an example, but you can certainly find one on bugzilla.
16:08 vfernandes jcamins perl is not a problem for me... founding things it's harder :D
16:08 oleonard Yes, I think hastily.
16:08 drojf oleonard: you actually found a koha link on the website! either i missed it or it was not there when i looked. it looks kind of arbitrarily placed ;)
16:08 jcamins *hard
16:08 jcamins It's not very ahrd.
16:07 vfernandes that's bad :/
16:07 jcamins Unfortunately there's no wiki page explaining how to create permissions that I can see.
16:07 jcamins vfernandes: I think it's still superior.
16:06 vfernandes which is the best way to do that?
16:06 vfernandes but I can create a permission for that
16:06 drojf hi again #koha
16:06 vfernandes magnuse said the same thing but if the validation is off the permission makes no sense
16:05 jcamins Alas, no wiki page on permissions.
16:04 jcamins permissions?
16:04 reiveune1 bye
16:04 jcamins vfernandes: perhaps it would be better to make a new permission for users instead of having a list of users in a syspref?
16:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9163 new feature, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Cataloguing validation workflow
16:02 vfernandes patch submitted to validation workflow - BUG 9163
15:32 jcamins Success! \o/
15:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6680 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Cart download choices not understandable to patrons
15:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9098 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace tabulations by spaces in opac-user.pl
15:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
15:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2832 normal, P3, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Make alphabet localizable
15:30 jenkins_koha * nengard: Follow up to Bug 6680: tiny up download lists formats
15:30 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6680 - simple tidy-up of cart download format descriptions
15:30 jenkins_koha * koha: Bug 9098 Replace tabulations by spaces in opac-user.pl
15:30 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7143: Small fix for About page
15:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9132 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Paging through OPAC authority search results does not work
15:30 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 7143 About changes for 3.12
15:30 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 2832: [SIGNED-OFF] Followup: Add a default value
15:30 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9132: Paging through OPAC authority search results does not work (followup 1) input with and_ora instread of and_or
15:30 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9132: Paging through OPAC authority search results does not work
15:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #957: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/957/
15:24 vfernandes ok thanks nengard :)
15:22 nengard It appears
15:14 vfernandes what happens to the new record? appears or not in OPAC?
15:13 vfernandes I know that... imagine that I have one record with 942$n set, then I add another without 942$n
15:05 nengard but if you have 1 in the system and you add another without it you're fine
15:05 nengard if you don't have at least one record with 942$n set to 1 then you will get no results at all for any search
15:02 vfernandes guys what happens when OPACSuppresion is on and we add a record without suppress subfield?
14:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #957 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9142 blocker, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Failing test case in 3.10.0 release.
14:22 jenkins_koha tomascohen: Bug 9142 - Remove the use of subtests
14:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #956: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/956/
14:05 nengard hehe
14:04 oleonard Well, except for the Dropbox part :P
14:04 nengard yup, except that you need dropbox
14:04 oleonard I know Jing works well, but it's nice that that is open source.
14:02 nengard neat oleonard
14:02 oleonard nengard: http://fredericiana.com/2012/11/27/upshot-osx-screenshot-sharing-with-dropbox/
14:00 drojf :P
14:00 drojf respect the QAMs authority
14:00 kf ok
13:59 paul_p kf marcel made a lot of QA already. I really think we've enough. But jared final cut.
13:58 drojf kf++ # for being annoying :)
13:56 kf paul_p: I woud like to see a second qa opinon on this - you were heavily involved in development here
13:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , updatedatabase improvements
13:55 paul_p jcamins_away = just passed QA bug 7167 (after testing the squashed I just uploaded)... hoping you'll push it...
13:55 paul_p oleonard = same for me. Nice that he started by adding Koha, too bad that he made this on his island ;-)
13:54 oleonard I don't get it. Or maybe he doesn't get how open source works (contributing perhaps to the fact that MarcEdit isn't FOSS)
13:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_6680' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bfb67119ce4fdf09a83bc865f68dededa7bdb7cd> / Follow up to Bug 6680: tiny up download lists formats <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7954504f3d8e138cf385604617bd88711717df6> / Bug 6680 - simple tidy-up of cart download format descriptions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a
13:52 kf hm haven't seen anything
13:50 oleonard Has anyone heard from him on the mailing list or IRC?
13:48 kf http://people.oregonstate.edu/~reeset/blog/archives/1123
13:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7143' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6081b94e3c3af21e90f14b73611216d1c4cbd31d> / Bug 7143: Small fix for About page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd63817139f3011afdaa23a93adc41966e28a3f3> / Bug 7143 About changes for 3.12 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2bc5b29cc1d7f5e42fb74730d8271741d02b
13:23 muaz sorry
13:23 jcamins muaz: your caps lock is turned on.
13:22 drojf hi oleonard
13:22 oleonard Hi #koha
13:19 muaz IAM WAITE
13:19 muaz HI
13:16 drojf we should have a google group for video tutorials
13:14 muaz KOHA WORK GOOOD
13:14 paul_p muaz = which version ? could you show us what your opac look like ?
13:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #956 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:12 muaz OK
13:11 jwagner (Shouting doesn't help)
13:11 jwagner Any CSS entered in the OpacUserCSS syspref overrides the default stylesheet settings. Therefore enter the code I sent you in that syspref, with the hex code for the color you want.
13:11 muaz to change the blue coloe in OPAC
13:11 muaz SOME ONE SEND ME THE HTML CODE FOR THAT
13:08 tcohen exactly
13:08 muaz but i want to change the blue coloe in OPAC
13:08 muaz now it work probably
13:08 muaz yes iam trying several day to install koha
13:05 tcohen no matter where did u install Koha muaz, you need to know CSS and read the manual to apply those CSS styles
13:04 muaz iam use koha on ubuntu
13:04 wahanui manual is probably at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
13:04 jwagner manual?
13:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9142 - Remove the use of subtests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18b83eedd37d639f88b658fa412e42c96fb40345>
13:02 muaz i find some result about you talk but i didnot find my answer
13:01 muaz that it my problem
13:01 kf muaz: I think maybe start with the manual - there is not much more than she told you, adminsitration > systempreferences > OpacUserCSS is where you want to start looking and for the logo opacsmallimage
13:01 muaz who and where can i add hex cod
13:00 kf muaz: jwagner answered your question
13:00 muaz step by step please
13:00 muaz iam new in koha
12:59 muaz any boody here
12:59 jwagner Use the hex code for the color you want
12:59 jwagner #opac-main-search { background : #0800A5; }
12:59 jwagner Put something like this in your OpacUserCSS syspref:
12:58 muaz that it is
12:58 muaz yes
12:58 jwagner muaz, do you mean the masthead bar? Where the search box and links to Advanced Search etc. are?
12:57 muaz i want to change the blue coloe in OPAC
12:57 muaz holoooooooo
12:56 muaz iam so sad
12:56 muaz in koha logo and interface
12:56 muaz some help me
12:44 tcohen heh
12:44 drojf look
12:44 drojf lok at the QA people, they get all the fun
12:42 kf I had a bit of fun this morning :)
12:42 * paul_p_ plan to have some QA fun this afternoon
12:42 drojf bonjour paul_p_
12:41 kf hi paul_p_
12:41 paul_p_ hi drojf, kf, tcohen & all others
12:38 tcohen hi drojf
12:38 drojf hi tcohen
12:37 drojf kf: ok. i'm going to accept that excuse. for today :P
12:37 kf hi tcohen
12:36 tcohen morning #koha
12:34 kf ah meetings
12:34 drojf hi kf. late today ;)
12:12 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @sekjal: "MarcEdit creator's experience working with the #kohails API: http://t.co/bV7owuuk"
11:59 vfernandes if a record has no suppress (empty 942$n in UNIMARC) what happens? it is visible in OPAC?
11:51 vfernandes can be... the problem is that with validation off there is "non" working permission
11:50 magnuse instead of specifying a user in a syspref, maybe create a permission for it?
11:47 vfernandes what you think about this magnuse?
11:46 vfernandes *with 1
11:46 vfernandes with the validation on all frameworks (expect validation framework) needs to have the suppress hidden because it will be filled automatically with value 0
11:44 vfernandes the system preferences needs to have 3 options... one to turn on/turn off the cataloguing validation, one to especify the code of MARC framework and the last to specify the usernames with access to the validation framework (empty for all)
11:42 magnuse :-)
11:42 dpavlin magnuse: no, not yet unfortunatly, I just a bit sleepy so my finger slipped from esc to ~ :-)
11:41 drojf lol
11:39 magnuse dpavlin: you're going home? ;-)
11:34 dpavlin ~
11:34 magnuse vfernandes: yeah, system preferences to make it optional is usually a good idea :-)
11:31 * gaetan_B is off to lunch
11:31 vfernandes in my client the implementation is directly in the code, but I can turn it more useful with system preferences
11:30 gaetan_B so it does sound like a nice idea
11:29 gaetan_B vfernandes: i have met some people asking for this feature actually :)
11:29 vfernandes this could be a nice feature to add to Koha?
11:28 vfernandes in one of my clients I've implement a record cataloguing validation workflow with some code modifications... the cataloguer uses the MARC frameworks to catalogue the record (suppress = 1 and they can't change it), than the catalogue "bosses" uses a special framework (only some patrons have access to i) to validate the record catalogue and set the suppress = 0
11:25 drojf i fail to find any mention of koha on the website of the company requesting to be listed as koha support provider
11:25 gaetan_B so i got analytics working, but there's still a question : is there a way to get the list of analytics from the host record in the opac like we have it in the admin ?
11:24 drojf and hi gaetan_B
11:24 drojf hi vfernandes
11:24 wahanui privet, gaetan_B
11:24 gaetan_B hello
11:22 vfernandes hi guys
11:15 * drojf yawns
09:31 Herwig installed 3.10 at home yesterday for testing nice job works fine :) gratz to all who worked at it
09:28 magnuse hehe, true!
09:27 Herwig The last mile is always the hardest
09:27 Herwig works ... i was close before i asked ... but now i got it thx
09:23 magnuse :-)
09:23 Herwig :)
09:23 Herwig ah thx i go read it
09:23 magnuse have a look at that link pasted
09:23 Herwig dont find that :) anny tips
09:23 magnuse http://manual.koha-community.org/3.10/en/patronpermissions.html
09:22 magnuse Herwig: you can create different *users* with different permissions, yes
09:21 Herwig Question about koha is it possible to make different passwords with different rights for the staff client ?
09:18 Herwig Morning
08:50 rangi heh
08:47 drojf and good morning #koha
08:47 drojf "Milo Gamgee-Took of Bywater" <- looks like i'm a koha hobbit. bywater: please start to pay me :D
08:14 lds hi rangi
08:14 rangi hi lds and paul_p
08:11 paul_p good morning #koha
08:05 magnuse bonjour!
08:03 lds hello
07:49 cait hi reiveune
07:46 wahanui what's up, reiveune
07:46 reiveune hello
07:45 alex_a bonjour
07:37 * cait was not about to look that up... um
07:36 magnuse miffle?
07:33 * magnuse also notes that eythian is in the miffle of middle earth already
07:32 cait :)
07:31 * magnuse notes that down
07:30 * eythian adds the Back to the Future series as compulsory watching for both of you
07:30 magnuse eythian is probably going to an ent-moot
07:30 cait never mind
07:30 cait oh right
07:30 magnuse ents!
07:29 magnuse of too middle earth?
07:29 cait since when can trees move?
07:29 * eythian makes like a tree and gets out of here.
07:29 magnuse ah yes
07:29 eythian (see recent scrollback)
07:28 eythian nope
07:28 magnuse doesn't rangi's patch do the trick?
07:28 eythian yeah
07:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages
07:28 magnuse bug 9052, i presume?
07:28 cait rangi++ for signing off patches
07:28 eythian too late now! tag, you're it!
07:27 magnuse :-)
07:27 * magnuse hides
07:27 rangi heh
07:27 eythian oh, magnuse is here just as I'm leaving. He can fix the bug for us then ;)
07:25 * magnuse waves
07:21 rangi yeah
07:21 eythian I might leave it there for now and look more tomorrow.
07:20 eythian but that's laid out differently
07:20 rangi right
07:20 eythian that links in the system yui
07:20 rangi yeah
07:20 eythian it's immediately followed by an ln
07:19 rangi up on 41
07:19 eythian Hmm
07:19 rangi $(TMP)/usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/lib/yui
07:19 rangi rm -r \
07:19 rangi ahh
07:18 eythian later in the rules, there's a rewrite of the URLs for those two files in the CSS. I wonder if that's what needs to change instead.
07:17 rangi hmmm it must need to come later then
07:15 eythian rangi: fails: install: target `/tmp/buildd/koha-3.10.00.1/debian/tmp/usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/lib/yui' is not a directory
07:02 eythian hi
07:02 cait hey eythian
06:59 rangi oh yeah good point
06:56 eythian hmm, beware that the whitespace fixing feature of git seems to do bad things to makefiles
06:55 eythian yeah
06:55 rangi so i just did the opac, as that is where it was obviously needed
06:55 eythian not sure
06:54 rangi im unsure if it is need for the intranet too
06:54 rangi whoops :)
06:54 rangi heh
06:54 eythian rangi: I'd already written and was in the process of testing that patch :)
06:41 francharb hi cait :)
06:41 cait hi francharb :) evening rangi :)
06:30 francharb 0/ rangi
06:30 rangi hi francharb
06:14 francharb hello #koha
05:35 Oak hello druthb_away :)
05:13 eythian ldapsearch -x -LLL -H ldaps://x.x.x.x -D 'CN=testham,OU=CLIENT,OU=User Accounts,DC=ABC123,DC=CLIENT,DC=LOCAL' -w 'password' -b 'OU=CLIENT,OU=User Accounts,DC=ABC123,DC=CLIENT,DC=LOCAL' "(mail=*)" cn mail | grep '^cn\|^mail' | cut -f 2 -d ' ' | sed -e "s/'/''/g" | tr \\n \\0 | xargs -0 -n 2 echo | awk '{print "UPDATE borrowers SET userid='"'"'"$1"'"'"' WHERE email='"'"'"$2"'"'"';"}'
05:12 eythian today's magnum opus:
05:10 druthb Hi, Oak. :)
04:58 * Oak waves
04:38 rangi cant beat wellington on a good day
04:38 rangi https://twitter.com/bex_anwyll/status/273645460491759616/photo/1
04:17 rangi his grandad must have shown him that
04:16 rangi that'll be why
04:16 eythian http://youtu.be/uE-1RPDqJAY
04:15 rangi somehow the hobbit has crossed over into gangnam style
04:14 rangi kahu runs and yells is it wizard gandalf styles yet
04:11 * druthb shivers.
04:10 druthb o/
03:50 bag oh yeah that's much better go stuff
03:50 rangi you can see our crappy adverts at the moment
03:49 rangi sweet
03:48 bag I've got channel 3 streaming
03:48 eythian http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/culture/7998019/The-Hobbit-premiere-Livestream <-- bag, now that'll probably be what you want
03:39 eythian https://plus.google.com/103212956082396932240/posts/HkfGnRw3nHC <-- bag
03:38 wizzyrea ^^ I like this idea, if you know about how long it's going to take
03:34 eythian I usually sleep 600 && something
03:16 jcamins Hm. True.
03:15 rangi you could just at it
03:14 jcamins You'd think there would be- it's easy enough to script.
03:14 jcamins In this case only 500MB.
03:14 rangi not really
03:14 wizzyrea :P
03:14 jcamins I'd like to go to sleep, but it's going to take another 40 minutes for the import to finish, and then I'd like to import the last file and reindex.
03:14 wizzyrea you mean like importing 5G of records
03:14 rangi hmm
03:13 wizzyrea oh.
03:13 jcamins wizzyrea: assume that I'm half-way through a very long process.
03:12 rangi Esmerelda Chubb lives down the pub
03:12 wizzyrea a pipe? or &&
03:12 jcamins Is there a standard program I can use that will wait until another process has finished then execute a particular program?
03:11 jcamins That would've been a good idea, but no.
03:11 jcamins wizzyrea: lol
03:11 kathryn mtj: I didn't get a home like everyone else, just plain ol Esmerelda Chubb
03:10 rangi heh
03:10 wizzyrea because they kept getting overdue notices from your koha?
03:10 Space_Librarian hooray!
03:10 jcamins (but I got them back!)
03:09 jcamins I loaned them to a friend two years ago and only just got them back two weeks ago.
03:09 * Space_Librarian loves LotR and Silmarillion more than the Hobbit.
03:09 wizzyrea of course :)
03:09 jcamins And Two Towers.
03:09 * jcamins just reread Fellowship of the Ring.
03:09 * mtj wants kathryn's one :/
03:09 jcamins wizzyrea: they're fairly closely related to the Bagginses.
03:09 kathryn Space_Librarian, very proper
03:08 wizzyrea O.o boffin.
03:08 wizzyrea DELISH
03:08 mtj Berilac Boffin of Whitfurrows
03:08 wizzyrea hamwich?
03:08 kathryn that's a goody jcamins
03:08 Space_Librarian Iris Hamwich of Buckleberry Fern
03:08 kathryn *wizzyrea is chronic
03:08 wizzyrea oh I like that
03:08 rangi heh
03:08 jcamins Dimple Cotton of Overhill
03:08 wizzyrea a bit bawdy eh
03:08 * wizzyrea thinks woody end sounds a bit naughty
03:07 rangi theyve seen my belly
03:07 kathryn so close to fame rangi
03:07 wizzyrea Bulbo.
03:07 rangi Bulbo Moss of Lake-by-Downs
03:07 wizzyrea http://www.chriswetherell.com/hobbit/index.php
03:07 Space_Librarian where is that name generator?
03:07 wizzyrea Ruby Trample of Woody End
03:07 rangi we should totally do hobbit names for zoo doo
03:06 Space_Librarian at least you're not a grubb!
03:06 rangi lol
03:06 kathryn !!!
03:06 kathryn Esmerelda Chubb
03:06 kathryn uh speaking of that, my hobbit name... :(
03:06 mtj i, generally speaking, know lots little chubby hairy people...
03:05 Space_Librarian very exciting for them. :)
03:05 wizzyrea that's about the extent
03:05 rangi heh
03:05 kathryn :)
03:05 * wizzyrea knows reed
03:05 kathryn hi Space_Librarian
03:05 kathryn dressers, digital ninjas, gaffers, builder, sparkies! :)\
03:05 * Space_Librarian does too. And cameramen
03:04 kathryn I know a pack of body doubles :)
03:04 rangi i bet kathryn knows tons of ppl in it
03:04 wizzyrea they just left a few minutes ago
03:03 rangi im watching for him on tv
03:00 wizzyrea eythian is not here (he's gone to hobbiton-courtenay-pl)
03:00 wizzyrea (good to know, but doesn't help this particular moment :))
02:59 wizzyrea well that is a step next
02:59 jcamins I think the way eythian does it is to install the translations manually.
02:59 jcamins wizzyrea: I build the packages with the translations I want.
02:59 Space_Librarian we have been indoctrinated.
02:59 * jcamins thinks Star Trek when he hears "red shirt," too.
02:58 Space_Librarian mind you, people say red shirt = I think Star Trek.
02:58 wizzyrea how do you update them after an upgrade?
02:58 wizzyrea translations + packages - I forget how one does this
02:57 Space_Librarian hahahaha. That was pre-red shirt, but I would do it now. :P
02:57 mtj … and you complimented him on his nice red shirt ;)
02:56 Space_Librarian No, we discussed the finer points of the villians. (I loved his Richard III).
02:56 Space_Librarian So *so cool* though.
02:56 mtj Space, not too criticial, i hope?
02:56 wizzyrea ^.^
02:56 Space_Librarian I think he was more relieved that I was talking Shakespeare and not Gandalf.
02:55 bag that's pretty cool - I studied a lot of shakespeare in uni
02:55 Space_Librarian Also have had conversations with Stephen Fry and Billy Connelly.
02:55 Space_Librarian yep.
02:55 bag oh no you didn't Space_Librarian
02:54 bag heh
02:54 bag go!
02:54 bag oh man there is only one hobbit premeir eythian
02:54 Space_Librarian bag: I never told you about my discussions with Sir Ian about his Shakespeare performances whilst ona plane back to Wellington, did I?
02:53 wahanui hmmm... logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
02:53 bag logs?
02:53 mtj baggins, i did go to some previous LOTR prems, and… just gotz teh squashed!
02:52 Space_Librarian you should try the Sprig and Fern, but it is a little more out of the way.
02:52 eythian good day for it
02:51 mtj still gonna go for a beer/wander, but will prolly go to LBQ instead
02:50 eythian oh, missed
02:50 eythian eh, this kind of thing happens all the time here, what's another red carpet premiere really ;)
02:49 bag heh
02:49 bag oh man oh man oh man oh man
02:49 bag oh man you should go!!! for us that can't!!!
02:49 jcamins 1/3 of the way there.
02:48 eythian it's just outside the blocked off zone, it might not be so bad. malty will be hellish though.
02:48 mtj i was planning to head to HZ for a beer later this arvo… but not anymoar!
02:48 Space_Librarian A couple of people at work are walking the carpet.
02:47 eythian mtj literally lives under a rock, you see.
02:47 eythian I had a wander down Courtney Place earlier this afternoon. Packed with people.
02:47 bag SOOO cool
02:47 mtj i only just found out it was on, this morning :/
02:46 eythian http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/8009390/ <-- bag
02:46 bag mtj you going?
02:45 bag I'm getting soo excited for the watching the premeir of the hobbit - live :) let's see a parade!
02:45 jcamins 183k
02:45 eythian Silly band-aids.
02:45 * eythian notes that there's some hidden logic somewhere that seems to give it '' if it would otherwise be not defined.
02:44 eythian borrowers.address that is
02:44 eythian why is "address" not-null and not-default? That seems like a strange requirement.
02:40 rangi yep
02:39 jcamins Importing 700k records takes a long time.
02:37 * rangi hope that helps
02:37 rangi same issue with skin.css
02:37 rangi /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/lib/yui/reset-fonts-grids.css
02:36 rangi the real bug is there isnt one at
02:36 rangi actually that may have been left over from 3.8.x
02:36 rangi this one being the problem /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/css/reset-fonts-grids.css
02:35 rangi sorry the next 3
02:35 jcamins Yeah, definitely a bug.
02:35 rangi the second 2 are where 3.10.0 installed them
02:34 rangi first 2 lines are the files in git
02:34 pastebot "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "reset-fonts-grids" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/285
02:33 rangi hmm nope still a bug
02:32 eythian in 3.10.x?
02:32 rangi i think it is fixed
02:32 rangi actually yeah
02:30 jcamins And I can't find it.
02:30 rangi well new report
02:29 jcamins No, I thought I patched it a while ago.
02:29 rangi yep thats a new bug
02:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages
02:29 eythian if you did, it's not on bug 9052
02:29 jcamins Not sure where, though.
02:28 jcamins I thought I already patched it.
02:27 eythian (later that is, I have more urgent stuff to do right now)
02:27 eythian I might have a go at making a patch for that issue, see how that helps. I do note that the status of "blocker" doesn't actually seem to function as intended though
02:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9073 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Download option from the cart should match the menu button in lists
02:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5521 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , item edit form appears if no items found
02:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8954 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Languages list in advanced search always in english
02:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8983 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Typo error in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl
02:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9024 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Add additional sample data to German installer
02:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8804 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm
02:25 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 9073 - Download option from the cart should match the menu button in lists
02:25 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 5521 - item edit form appears if no items found
02:25 jenkins_koha * mathieu.saby: Bug 8954: Make languages list in advanced search translatable (revision 1)
02:25 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8983: Typo in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl
02:25 jenkins_koha * mirko: Bug 9024: Fix typo
02:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8936 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, RESOLVED FIXED, Search RSS feeds does not show there items when subscribing in Firefox
02:25 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9024: Add missing sample data to existing files
02:25 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9024: Adding sample patron attributes to German web installer
02:25 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8804 [Revised] Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm
02:25 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8936: Search RSS feeds does not show there items when subscribing in Firefox
02:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #69: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/69/
02:20 rangi someone elses turn
02:20 rangi i fear im losing my battle against panicky misinformation
02:19 mtj yeah, so that could be Koha's new killer-feature… searching and importing bibs from open-library :)
02:16 mtj ^^ i think i talked myself out of starting the z39 thing, after i realised that
02:14 mtj i'm sure everyone agrees - teaching koha to import OL's bib format, is better than us building our own z39 box
02:12 jcamins 190k authorities imported.
02:11 rangi the rest im happy to forget :)
02:10 rangi that and the move to git
02:10 rangi one good thing that came out of the one year i was at liblime
02:09 rangi came from summer of code
02:09 rangi biblios.net/org
02:09 jcamins I tried to convince wizzyrea to submit a proposal, but she wasn't sold.
02:09 rangi ahh right
02:09 rangi somethign like that, would be a perfect project
02:09 eythian but I ran out of time to complete it
02:09 jcamins Definitely a good idea.
02:09 eythian No, I was mostly looking at cover uploading
02:09 rangi lets go for google summer of code next year
02:08 rangi you know what
02:08 rangi he started do some work towards that i think
02:08 rangi talk to eythian at hashigo zake
02:08 jcamins I'd love to see that.
02:08 rangi mtj: id love to go that route
02:07 mtj anyhoo, a little off-topic...
02:07 mtj http://openlibrary.org/developers/api
02:07 mtj the other way for Koha to get openlibrary records, is to teach Koha to import OL's JSON, YAML or RDF/XML bib data
02:06 rangi http://www.indexdata.com/yazproxy
02:05 mtj rangi, aah, i didnt know that
02:04 rangi thats what library of congress did
02:03 mtj atm , open-library has a zigabtye of bib records… but there is no easy way to get them from koha
02:03 rangi we can always stick yaz-proxy out front
02:03 rangi cool
02:02 bag I think kyle found a spot that z3950 causes some slowness - I think he may have commented on a bug but I forget
02:02 jcamins It will help, yes.
02:00 rangi jcamins: your rewrite will help provide a better z3950 experience too, or is that pretty decent already? (talking about fetch from a z3950 server with koha)
02:00 mtj so, the fix for that could be - we (kc.org) build a huge z39/sru server, and provides that service?
01:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #69 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:59 mtj the big killer-feature *missing* from koha, is a way for new libraries to find MARC records for their books, i think...
01:59 jcamins I forgot about them.
01:58 jcamins Ooh, Tuebingen!
01:57 mtj ^^ rangi, yep that too :)
01:57 bag up I'd be down to help anyway possible
01:57 rangi we may as well offer them via sru/sw too
01:57 rangi and sru.koha-community.org
01:57 rangi assuming they are appropriately licensed records
01:57 bag [off] s/mind/mined/
01:56 mtj yeah, but….. all those records out there…. they are not easy to pull via z39, yet :/
01:56 rangi im happy to point z3950.koha-community.org at it when its done :)
01:56 bag I've had the same idea too
01:56 mtj ive been thinking about it for about 3-ish months, now
01:56 bag [off] I think people have mind biblios.org before and gotten most of those millions+ records
01:55 rangi ahh
01:55 mtj rangi, i havent even started yet :/
01:55 mtj it would be a really useful thing!
01:55 rangi how many did you get in?
01:54 mtj i've had a pet-project for stuffing as many MARC records as i could find into a koha, and making it a z39.kc.org server
01:53 rangi ah yep thats good too
01:53 rangi cos you can grab them at 2000 records at a time
01:53 jcamins I like UMich's.
01:53 rangi thats a good one
01:53 rangi http://archive.org/details/unc_catalog_marc
01:52 rangi :)
01:52 jcamins I think probably I'll go with a slightly smaller dataset.
01:51 jcamins Hehe.
01:51 rangi go for gold :)
01:51 rangi http://archive.org/search.php?query=%28collection%3Aol_data%20OR%20mediatype%3Aol_data%29%20AND%20-mediatype%3Acollection&sort=-week
01:51 rangi 5.5 million from talis too
01:51 rangi http://archive.org/details/talis_openlibrary_contribution
01:50 jcamins *Thanks
01:50 jcamins THanks!
01:50 jcamins Oh, of course.
01:49 rangi 5.2gig worth of records there
01:49 rangi http://archive.org/details/marc_university_of_toronto
01:49 jcamins Good idea.
01:49 jcamins no.
01:49 jcamins Hmmm...
01:49 rangi youve got the ones from openlibrary?
01:48 jcamins Hey, does anyone have any really large datasets they want to share with me?
01:44 wizzyrea true!
01:44 Space_Librarian You need an invisibility cloak.
01:43 rangi hehe
01:43 wizzyrea no really, it's true, I can't hide anything.
01:43 * wizzyrea has no tricks
01:43 wizzyrea HA
01:43 rangi :)
01:43 rangi i know your tricks
01:43 wizzyrea no no
01:43 rangi snap goes the chocolate
01:43 wizzyrea !
01:43 rangi yeah whenever i ask her to do something stupid
01:42 wizzyrea every day is an emergency.
01:42 Space_Librarian in case of emergency?
01:42 rangi :)
01:42 rangi and likes to tease us by snapping it loudly!
01:42 rangi she has that in her drawer already
01:42 wizzyrea thanks
01:42 wizzyrea oo
01:41 * Space_Librarian gives wizzyrea chocolate
01:41 Space_Librarian and she does that too.
01:41 jcamins No, actually, for closing bugs.
01:41 wizzyrea oh :)
01:41 Space_Librarian you solved jcamins problem
01:40 wizzyrea wha?
01:40 jcamins wizzyrea++
01:32 jcamins It says amd64.
01:32 jcamins Thanks.
01:31 wizzyrea might tell you
01:31 wizzyrea uname -a
01:31 jcamins How do I find out what architecture I'm on?
01:28 rangi the theme issue is a known bug .. the rest .. i dont know about
01:28 rangi heh
01:28 jcamins Of course, I don't actually know what architecture I'm on.
01:27 jcamins apt seems confused about my architecture.
01:26 jcamins Not so extreme.
01:25 jcamins rangi: I had a problems just now with Debian.
01:23 * rangi is talking about the email to the list
01:23 rangi but i had none of those issues on debian
01:23 rangi that really doesnt seem right, maybe those issues are to do with ubuntu
01:22 rangi hmmm
01:13 rangi *nod*
01:13 mtj … a little extra effort, for a bunch more security
01:12 mtj rangi, yeah ultimately the 'sign-off' discussion seemed like a no-brainer to me
01:10 rangi (its gonna generate the mail when you resolve it anyway so a little note doesnt hurt :))
01:10 rangi mtj++
01:09 * rangi is lazy
01:09 rangi but i usually just leave it
01:09 rangi you could note, not needed for 3.6.x if you wanted
01:08 rangi ah yeah for those ones i just leave them
01:07 wizzyrea (but for that one at least, I did know that the permissions weren't in 3.6)
01:06 wizzyrea right - that's what I gathered but since I was looking at them all, I figured I'd just close them with the note. Maybe that's not the right way to go about it - I do hate filling up people's inboxes.
01:05 rangi wizzyrea: 7805 wont be needed for 3.6.x the new permissions only came in in 3.8.x