Time Nick Message 01:05 rangi wizzyrea: 7805 wont be needed for 3.6.x the new permissions only came in in 3.8.x 01:06 wizzyrea right - that's what I gathered but since I was looking at them all, I figured I'd just close them with the note. Maybe that's not the right way to go about it - I do hate filling up people's inboxes. 01:07 wizzyrea (but for that one at least, I did know that the permissions weren't in 3.6) 01:08 rangi ah yeah for those ones i just leave them 01:09 rangi you could note, not needed for 3.6.x if you wanted 01:09 rangi but i usually just leave it 01:09 * rangi is lazy 01:10 rangi mtj++ 01:10 rangi (its gonna generate the mail when you resolve it anyway so a little note doesnt hurt :)) 01:12 mtj rangi, yeah ultimately the 'sign-off' discussion seemed like a no-brainer to me 01:13 mtj … a little extra effort, for a bunch more security 01:13 rangi *nod* 01:22 rangi hmmm 01:23 rangi that really doesnt seem right, maybe those issues are to do with ubuntu 01:23 rangi but i had none of those issues on debian 01:23 * rangi is talking about the email to the list 01:25 jcamins rangi: I had a problems just now with Debian. 01:26 jcamins Not so extreme. 01:27 jcamins apt seems confused about my architecture. 01:28 jcamins Of course, I don't actually know what architecture I'm on. 01:28 rangi heh 01:28 rangi the theme issue is a known bug .. the rest .. i dont know about 01:31 jcamins How do I find out what architecture I'm on? 01:31 wizzyrea uname -a 01:31 wizzyrea might tell you 01:32 jcamins Thanks. 01:32 jcamins It says amd64. 01:40 jcamins wizzyrea++ 01:40 wizzyrea wha? 01:41 Space_Librarian you solved jcamins problem 01:41 wizzyrea oh :) 01:41 jcamins No, actually, for closing bugs. 01:41 Space_Librarian and she does that too. 01:41 * Space_Librarian gives wizzyrea chocolate 01:42 wizzyrea oo 01:42 wizzyrea thanks 01:42 rangi she has that in her drawer already 01:42 rangi and likes to tease us by snapping it loudly! 01:42 rangi :) 01:42 Space_Librarian in case of emergency? 01:42 wizzyrea every day is an emergency. 01:43 rangi yeah whenever i ask her to do something stupid 01:43 wizzyrea ! 01:43 rangi snap goes the chocolate 01:43 wizzyrea no no 01:43 rangi i know your tricks 01:43 rangi :) 01:43 wizzyrea HA 01:43 * wizzyrea has no tricks 01:43 wizzyrea no really, it's true, I can't hide anything. 01:43 rangi hehe 01:44 Space_Librarian You need an invisibility cloak. 01:44 wizzyrea true! 01:48 jcamins Hey, does anyone have any really large datasets they want to share with me? 01:49 rangi youve got the ones from openlibrary? 01:49 jcamins Hmmm... 01:49 jcamins no. 01:49 jcamins Good idea. 01:49 rangi http://archive.org/details/marc_university_of_toronto 01:49 rangi 5.2gig worth of records there 01:50 jcamins Oh, of course. 01:50 jcamins THanks! 01:50 jcamins *Thanks 01:51 rangi http://archive.org/details/talis_openlibrary_contribution 01:51 rangi 5.5 million from talis too 01:51 rangi http://archive.org/search.php?query=%28collection%3Aol_data%20OR%20mediatype%3Aol_data%29%20AND%20-mediatype%3Acollection&sort=-week 01:51 rangi go for gold :) 01:51 jcamins Hehe. 01:52 jcamins I think probably I'll go with a slightly smaller dataset. 01:52 rangi :) 01:53 rangi http://archive.org/details/unc_catalog_marc 01:53 rangi thats a good one 01:53 jcamins I like UMich's. 01:53 rangi cos you can grab them at 2000 records at a time 01:53 rangi ah yep thats good too 01:54 mtj i've had a pet-project for stuffing as many MARC records as i could find into a koha, and making it a z39.kc.org server 01:55 rangi how many did you get in? 01:55 mtj it would be a really useful thing! 01:55 mtj rangi, i havent even started yet :/ 01:55 rangi ahh 01:56 bag [off] I think people have mind biblios.org before and gotten most of those millions+ records 01:56 mtj ive been thinking about it for about 3-ish months, now 01:56 bag I've had the same idea too 01:56 rangi im happy to point z3950.koha-community.org at it when its done :) 01:56 mtj yeah, but….. all those records out there…. they are not easy to pull via z39, yet :/ 01:57 bag [off] s/mind/mined/ 01:57 rangi assuming they are appropriately licensed records 01:57 rangi and sru.koha-community.org 01:57 rangi we may as well offer them via sru/sw too 01:57 bag up I'd be down to help anyway possible 01:57 mtj ^^ rangi, yep that too :) 01:58 jcamins Ooh, Tuebingen! 01:59 jcamins I forgot about them. 01:59 mtj the big killer-feature *missing* from koha, is a way for new libraries to find MARC records for their books, i think... 01:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #69 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:00 mtj so, the fix for that could be - we (kc.org) build a huge z39/sru server, and provides that service? 02:00 rangi jcamins: your rewrite will help provide a better z3950 experience too, or is that pretty decent already? (talking about fetch from a z3950 server with koha) 02:02 jcamins It will help, yes. 02:02 bag I think kyle found a spot that z3950 causes some slowness - I think he may have commented on a bug but I forget 02:03 rangi cool 02:03 rangi we can always stick yaz-proxy out front 02:03 mtj atm , open-library has a zigabtye of bib records… but there is no easy way to get them from koha 02:04 rangi thats what library of congress did 02:05 mtj rangi, aah, i didnt know that 02:06 rangi http://www.indexdata.com/yazproxy 02:07 mtj the other way for Koha to get openlibrary records, is to teach Koha to import OL's JSON, YAML or RDF/XML bib data 02:07 mtj http://openlibrary.org/developers/api 02:07 mtj anyhoo, a little off-topic... 02:08 rangi mtj: id love to go that route 02:08 jcamins I'd love to see that. 02:08 rangi talk to eythian at hashigo zake 02:08 rangi he started do some work towards that i think 02:08 rangi you know what 02:09 rangi lets go for google summer of code next year 02:09 eythian No, I was mostly looking at cover uploading 02:09 jcamins Definitely a good idea. 02:09 eythian but I ran out of time to complete it 02:09 rangi somethign like that, would be a perfect project 02:09 rangi ahh right 02:09 jcamins I tried to convince wizzyrea to submit a proposal, but she wasn't sold. 02:09 rangi biblios.net/org 02:09 rangi came from summer of code 02:10 rangi one good thing that came out of the one year i was at liblime 02:10 rangi that and the move to git 02:11 rangi the rest im happy to forget :) 02:12 jcamins 190k authorities imported. 02:14 mtj i'm sure everyone agrees - teaching koha to import OL's bib format, is better than us building our own z39 box 02:16 mtj ^^ i think i talked myself out of starting the z39 thing, after i realised that 02:19 mtj yeah, so that could be Koha's new killer-feature… searching and importing bibs from open-library :) 02:20 rangi i fear im losing my battle against panicky misinformation 02:20 rangi someone elses turn 02:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #69: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/69/ 02:25 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8936: Search RSS feeds does not show there items when subscribing in Firefox 02:25 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8804 [Revised] Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm 02:25 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9024: Adding sample patron attributes to German web installer 02:25 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9024: Add missing sample data to existing files 02:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8936 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, RESOLVED FIXED, Search RSS feeds does not show there items when subscribing in Firefox 02:25 jenkins_koha * mirko: Bug 9024: Fix typo 02:25 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8983: Typo in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl 02:25 jenkins_koha * mathieu.saby: Bug 8954: Make languages list in advanced search translatable (revision 1) 02:25 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 5521 - item edit form appears if no items found 02:25 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 9073 - Download option from the cart should match the menu button in lists 02:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8804 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm 02:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9024 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Add additional sample data to German installer 02:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8983 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Typo error in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl 02:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8954 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Languages list in advanced search always in english 02:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5521 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , item edit form appears if no items found 02:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9073 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Download option from the cart should match the menu button in lists 02:27 eythian I might have a go at making a patch for that issue, see how that helps. I do note that the status of "blocker" doesn't actually seem to function as intended though 02:27 eythian (later that is, I have more urgent stuff to do right now) 02:28 jcamins I thought I already patched it. 02:29 jcamins Not sure where, though. 02:29 eythian if you did, it's not on bug 9052 02:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages 02:29 rangi yep thats a new bug 02:29 jcamins No, I thought I patched it a while ago. 02:30 rangi well new report 02:30 jcamins And I can't find it. 02:32 rangi actually yeah 02:32 rangi i think it is fixed 02:32 eythian in 3.10.x? 02:33 rangi hmm nope still a bug 02:34 pastebot "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "reset-fonts-grids" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/285 02:34 rangi first 2 lines are the files in git 02:35 rangi the second 2 are where 3.10.0 installed them 02:35 jcamins Yeah, definitely a bug. 02:35 rangi sorry the next 3 02:36 rangi this one being the problem /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/css/reset-fonts-grids.css 02:36 rangi actually that may have been left over from 3.8.x 02:36 rangi the real bug is there isnt one at 02:37 rangi /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/lib/yui/reset-fonts-grids.css 02:37 rangi same issue with skin.css 02:37 * rangi hope that helps 02:39 jcamins Importing 700k records takes a long time. 02:40 rangi yep 02:44 eythian why is "address" not-null and not-default? That seems like a strange requirement. 02:44 eythian borrowers.address that is 02:45 * eythian notes that there's some hidden logic somewhere that seems to give it '' if it would otherwise be not defined. 02:45 eythian Silly band-aids. 02:45 jcamins 183k 02:45 bag I'm getting soo excited for the watching the premeir of the hobbit - live :) let's see a parade! 02:46 bag mtj you going? 02:46 eythian http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/8009390/ <-- bag 02:47 mtj i only just found out it was on, this morning :/ 02:47 bag SOOO cool 02:47 eythian I had a wander down Courtney Place earlier this afternoon. Packed with people. 02:47 eythian mtj literally lives under a rock, you see. 02:48 Space_Librarian A couple of people at work are walking the carpet. 02:48 mtj i was planning to head to HZ for a beer later this arvo… but not anymoar! 02:48 eythian it's just outside the blocked off zone, it might not be so bad. malty will be hellish though. 02:49 jcamins 1/3 of the way there. 02:49 bag oh man you should go!!! for us that can't!!! 02:49 bag oh man oh man oh man oh man 02:49 bag heh 02:50 eythian eh, this kind of thing happens all the time here, what's another red carpet premiere really ;) 02:50 eythian oh, missed 02:51 mtj still gonna go for a beer/wander, but will prolly go to LBQ instead 02:52 eythian good day for it 02:52 Space_Librarian you should try the Sprig and Fern, but it is a little more out of the way. 02:53 mtj baggins, i did go to some previous LOTR prems, and… just gotz teh squashed! 02:53 bag logs? 02:53 wahanui hmmm... logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ 02:54 Space_Librarian bag: I never told you about my discussions with Sir Ian about his Shakespeare performances whilst ona plane back to Wellington, did I? 02:54 bag oh man there is only one hobbit premeir eythian 02:54 bag go! 02:54 bag heh 02:55 bag oh no you didn't Space_Librarian 02:55 Space_Librarian yep. 02:55 Space_Librarian Also have had conversations with Stephen Fry and Billy Connelly. 02:55 bag that's pretty cool - I studied a lot of shakespeare in uni 02:56 Space_Librarian I think he was more relieved that I was talking Shakespeare and not Gandalf. 02:56 wizzyrea ^.^ 02:56 mtj Space, not too criticial, i hope? 02:56 Space_Librarian So *so cool* though. 02:56 Space_Librarian No, we discussed the finer points of the villians. (I loved his Richard III). 02:57 mtj … and you complimented him on his nice red shirt ;) 02:57 Space_Librarian hahahaha. That was pre-red shirt, but I would do it now. :P 02:58 wizzyrea translations + packages - I forget how one does this 02:58 wizzyrea how do you update them after an upgrade? 02:58 Space_Librarian mind you, people say red shirt = I think Star Trek. 02:59 * jcamins thinks Star Trek when he hears "red shirt," too. 02:59 Space_Librarian we have been indoctrinated. 02:59 jcamins wizzyrea: I build the packages with the translations I want. 02:59 jcamins I think the way eythian does it is to install the translations manually. 02:59 wizzyrea well that is a step next 03:00 wizzyrea (good to know, but doesn't help this particular moment :)) 03:00 wizzyrea eythian is not here (he's gone to hobbiton-courtenay-pl) 03:03 rangi im watching for him on tv 03:04 wizzyrea they just left a few minutes ago 03:04 rangi i bet kathryn knows tons of ppl in it 03:04 kathryn I know a pack of body doubles :) 03:05 * Space_Librarian does too. And cameramen 03:05 kathryn dressers, digital ninjas, gaffers, builder, sparkies! :)\ 03:05 kathryn hi Space_Librarian 03:05 * wizzyrea knows reed 03:05 kathryn :) 03:05 rangi heh 03:05 wizzyrea that's about the extent 03:05 Space_Librarian very exciting for them. :) 03:06 mtj i, generally speaking, know lots little chubby hairy people... 03:06 kathryn uh speaking of that, my hobbit name... :( 03:06 kathryn Esmerelda Chubb 03:06 kathryn !!! 03:06 rangi lol 03:06 Space_Librarian at least you're not a grubb! 03:07 rangi we should totally do hobbit names for zoo doo 03:07 wizzyrea Ruby Trample of Woody End 03:07 Space_Librarian where is that name generator? 03:07 wizzyrea http://www.chriswetherell.com/hobbit/index.php 03:07 rangi Bulbo Moss of Lake-by-Downs 03:07 wizzyrea Bulbo. 03:07 kathryn so close to fame rangi 03:07 rangi theyve seen my belly 03:08 * wizzyrea thinks woody end sounds a bit naughty 03:08 wizzyrea a bit bawdy eh 03:08 jcamins Dimple Cotton of Overhill 03:08 rangi heh 03:08 wizzyrea oh I like that 03:08 kathryn *wizzyrea is chronic 03:08 Space_Librarian Iris Hamwich of Buckleberry Fern 03:08 kathryn that's a goody jcamins 03:08 wizzyrea hamwich? 03:08 mtj Berilac Boffin of Whitfurrows 03:08 wizzyrea DELISH 03:08 wizzyrea O.o boffin. 03:09 kathryn Space_Librarian, very proper 03:09 jcamins wizzyrea: they're fairly closely related to the Bagginses. 03:09 * mtj wants kathryn's one :/ 03:09 * jcamins just reread Fellowship of the Ring. 03:09 jcamins And Two Towers. 03:09 wizzyrea of course :) 03:09 * Space_Librarian loves LotR and Silmarillion more than the Hobbit. 03:09 jcamins I loaned them to a friend two years ago and only just got them back two weeks ago. 03:10 jcamins (but I got them back!) 03:10 Space_Librarian hooray! 03:10 wizzyrea because they kept getting overdue notices from your koha? 03:10 rangi heh 03:11 kathryn mtj: I didn't get a home like everyone else, just plain ol Esmerelda Chubb 03:11 jcamins wizzyrea: lol 03:11 jcamins That would've been a good idea, but no. 03:12 jcamins Is there a standard program I can use that will wait until another process has finished then execute a particular program? 03:12 wizzyrea a pipe? or && 03:12 rangi Esmerelda Chubb lives down the pub 03:13 jcamins wizzyrea: assume that I'm half-way through a very long process. 03:13 wizzyrea oh. 03:14 rangi hmm 03:14 wizzyrea you mean like importing 5G of records 03:14 jcamins I'd like to go to sleep, but it's going to take another 40 minutes for the import to finish, and then I'd like to import the last file and reindex. 03:14 wizzyrea :P 03:14 rangi not really 03:14 jcamins In this case only 500MB. 03:14 jcamins You'd think there would be- it's easy enough to script. 03:15 rangi you could just at it 03:16 jcamins Hm. True. 03:34 eythian I usually sleep 600 && something 03:38 wizzyrea ^^ I like this idea, if you know about how long it's going to take 03:39 eythian https://plus.google.com/103212956082396932240/posts/HkfGnRw3nHC <-- bag 03:48 eythian http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/culture/7998019/The-Hobbit-premiere-Livestream <-- bag, now that'll probably be what you want 03:48 bag I've got channel 3 streaming 03:49 rangi sweet 03:50 rangi you can see our crappy adverts at the moment 03:50 bag oh yeah that's much better go stuff 04:10 druthb o/ 04:11 * druthb shivers. 04:14 rangi kahu runs and yells is it wizard gandalf styles yet 04:15 rangi somehow the hobbit has crossed over into gangnam style 04:16 eythian http://youtu.be/uE-1RPDqJAY 04:16 rangi that'll be why 04:17 rangi his grandad must have shown him that 04:38 rangi https://twitter.com/bex_anwyll/status/273645460491759616/photo/1 04:38 rangi cant beat wellington on a good day 04:58 * Oak waves 05:10 druthb Hi, Oak. :) 05:12 eythian today's magnum opus: 05:13 eythian ldapsearch -x -LLL -H ldaps://x.x.x.x -D 'CN=testham,OU=CLIENT,OU=User Accounts,DC=ABC123,DC=CLIENT,DC=LOCAL' -w 'password' -b 'OU=CLIENT,OU=User Accounts,DC=ABC123,DC=CLIENT,DC=LOCAL' "(mail=*)" cn mail | grep '^cn\|^mail' | cut -f 2 -d ' ' | sed -e "s/'/''/g" | tr \\n \\0 | xargs -0 -n 2 echo | awk '{print "UPDATE borrowers SET userid='"'"'"$1"'"'"' WHERE email='"'"'"$2"'"'"';"}' 05:35 Oak hello druthb_away :) 06:14 francharb hello #koha 06:30 rangi hi francharb 06:30 francharb 0/ rangi 06:41 cait hi francharb :) evening rangi :) 06:41 francharb hi cait :) 06:54 eythian rangi: I'd already written and was in the process of testing that patch :) 06:54 rangi heh 06:54 rangi whoops :) 06:54 rangi im unsure if it is need for the intranet too 06:55 eythian not sure 06:55 rangi so i just did the opac, as that is where it was obviously needed 06:55 eythian yeah 06:56 eythian hmm, beware that the whitespace fixing feature of git seems to do bad things to makefiles 06:59 rangi oh yeah good point 07:02 cait hey eythian 07:02 eythian hi 07:15 eythian rangi: fails: install: target `/tmp/buildd/koha-3.10.00.1/debian/tmp/usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/lib/yui' is not a directory 07:17 rangi hmmm it must need to come later then 07:18 eythian later in the rules, there's a rewrite of the URLs for those two files in the CSS. I wonder if that's what needs to change instead. 07:19 rangi ahh 07:19 rangi rm -r \ 07:19 rangi $(TMP)/usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/lib/yui 07:19 eythian Hmm 07:19 rangi up on 41 07:20 eythian it's immediately followed by an ln 07:20 rangi yeah 07:20 eythian that links in the system yui 07:20 rangi right 07:20 eythian but that's laid out differently 07:21 eythian I might leave it there for now and look more tomorrow. 07:21 rangi yeah 07:25 * magnuse waves 07:27 eythian oh, magnuse is here just as I'm leaving. He can fix the bug for us then ;) 07:27 rangi heh 07:27 * magnuse hides 07:27 magnuse :-) 07:28 eythian too late now! tag, you're it! 07:28 cait rangi++ for signing off patches 07:28 magnuse bug 9052, i presume? 07:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages 07:28 eythian yeah 07:28 magnuse doesn't rangi's patch do the trick? 07:28 eythian nope 07:29 eythian (see recent scrollback) 07:29 magnuse ah yes 07:29 * eythian makes like a tree and gets out of here. 07:29 cait since when can trees move? 07:29 magnuse of too middle earth? 07:30 magnuse ents! 07:30 cait oh right 07:30 cait never mind 07:30 magnuse eythian is probably going to an ent-moot 07:30 * eythian adds the Back to the Future series as compulsory watching for both of you 07:31 * magnuse notes that down 07:32 cait :) 07:33 * magnuse also notes that eythian is in the miffle of middle earth already 07:36 magnuse miffle? 07:37 * cait was not about to look that up... um 07:45 alex_a bonjour 07:46 reiveune hello 07:46 wahanui what's up, reiveune 07:49 cait hi reiveune 08:03 lds hello 08:05 magnuse bonjour! 08:11 paul_p good morning #koha 08:14 rangi hi lds and paul_p 08:14 lds hi rangi 08:47 drojf "Milo Gamgee-Took of Bywater" <- looks like i'm a koha hobbit. bywater: please start to pay me :D 08:47 drojf and good morning #koha 08:50 rangi heh 09:18 Herwig Morning 09:21 Herwig Question about koha is it possible to make different passwords with different rights for the staff client ? 09:22 magnuse Herwig: you can create different *users* with different permissions, yes 09:23 magnuse http://manual.koha-community.org/3.10/en/patronpermissions.html 09:23 Herwig dont find that :) anny tips 09:23 magnuse have a look at that link pasted 09:23 Herwig ah thx i go read it 09:23 Herwig :) 09:23 magnuse :-) 09:27 Herwig works ... i was close before i asked ... but now i got it thx 09:27 Herwig The last mile is always the hardest 09:28 magnuse hehe, true! 09:31 Herwig installed 3.10 at home yesterday for testing nice job works fine :) gratz to all who worked at it 11:15 * drojf yawns 11:22 vfernandes hi guys 11:24 gaetan_B hello 11:24 wahanui privet, gaetan_B 11:24 drojf hi vfernandes 11:24 drojf and hi gaetan_B 11:25 gaetan_B so i got analytics working, but there's still a question : is there a way to get the list of analytics from the host record in the opac like we have it in the admin ? 11:25 drojf i fail to find any mention of koha on the website of the company requesting to be listed as koha support provider 11:28 vfernandes in one of my clients I've implement a record cataloguing validation workflow with some code modifications... the cataloguer uses the MARC frameworks to catalogue the record (suppress = 1 and they can't change it), than the catalogue "bosses" uses a special framework (only some patrons have access to i) to validate the record catalogue and set the suppress = 0 11:29 vfernandes this could be a nice feature to add to Koha? 11:29 gaetan_B vfernandes: i have met some people asking for this feature actually :) 11:30 gaetan_B so it does sound like a nice idea 11:31 vfernandes in my client the implementation is directly in the code, but I can turn it more useful with system preferences 11:31 * gaetan_B is off to lunch 11:34 magnuse vfernandes: yeah, system preferences to make it optional is usually a good idea :-) 11:34 dpavlin ~ 11:39 magnuse dpavlin: you're going home? ;-) 11:41 drojf lol 11:42 dpavlin magnuse: no, not yet unfortunatly, I just a bit sleepy so my finger slipped from esc to ~ :-) 11:42 magnuse :-) 11:44 vfernandes the system preferences needs to have 3 options... one to turn on/turn off the cataloguing validation, one to especify the code of MARC framework and the last to specify the usernames with access to the validation framework (empty for all) 11:46 vfernandes with the validation on all frameworks (expect validation framework) needs to have the suppress hidden because it will be filled automatically with value 0 11:46 vfernandes *with 1 11:47 vfernandes what you think about this magnuse? 11:50 magnuse instead of specifying a user in a syspref, maybe create a permission for it? 11:51 vfernandes can be... the problem is that with validation off there is "non" working permission 11:59 vfernandes if a record has no suppress (empty 942$n in UNIMARC) what happens? it is visible in OPAC? 12:12 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @sekjal: "MarcEdit creator's experience working with the #kohails API: http://t.co/bV7owuuk" 12:34 drojf hi kf. late today ;) 12:34 kf ah meetings 12:36 tcohen morning #koha 12:37 kf hi tcohen 12:37 drojf kf: ok. i'm going to accept that excuse. for today :P 12:38 drojf hi tcohen 12:38 tcohen hi drojf 12:41 paul_p_ hi drojf, kf, tcohen & all others 12:41 kf hi paul_p_ 12:42 drojf bonjour paul_p_ 12:42 * paul_p_ plan to have some QA fun this afternoon 12:42 kf I had a bit of fun this morning :) 12:44 drojf lok at the QA people, they get all the fun 12:44 drojf look 12:44 tcohen heh 12:56 muaz some help me 12:56 muaz in koha logo and interface 12:56 muaz iam so sad 12:57 muaz holoooooooo 12:57 muaz i want to change the blue coloe in OPAC 12:58 jwagner muaz, do you mean the masthead bar? Where the search box and links to Advanced Search etc. are? 12:58 muaz yes 12:58 muaz that it is 12:59 jwagner Put something like this in your OpacUserCSS syspref: 12:59 jwagner #opac-main-search { background : #0800A5; } 12:59 jwagner Use the hex code for the color you want 12:59 muaz any boody here 13:00 muaz iam new in koha 13:00 muaz step by step please 13:00 kf muaz: jwagner answered your question 13:01 muaz who and where can i add hex cod 13:01 kf muaz: I think maybe start with the manual - there is not much more than she told you, adminsitration > systempreferences > OpacUserCSS is where you want to start looking and for the logo opacsmallimage 13:01 muaz that it my problem 13:02 muaz i find some result about you talk but i didnot find my answer 13:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9142 - Remove the use of subtests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18b83eedd37d639f88b658fa412e42c96fb40345> 13:04 jwagner manual? 13:04 wahanui manual is probably at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation 13:04 muaz iam use koha on ubuntu 13:05 tcohen no matter where did u install Koha muaz, you need to know CSS and read the manual to apply those CSS styles 13:08 muaz yes iam trying several day to install koha 13:08 muaz now it work probably 13:08 muaz but i want to change the blue coloe in OPAC 13:08 tcohen exactly 13:11 muaz SOME ONE SEND ME THE HTML CODE FOR THAT 13:11 muaz to change the blue coloe in OPAC 13:11 jwagner Any CSS entered in the OpacUserCSS syspref overrides the default stylesheet settings. Therefore enter the code I sent you in that syspref, with the hex code for the color you want. 13:11 jwagner (Shouting doesn't help) 13:12 muaz OK 13:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #956 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:14 paul_p muaz = which version ? could you show us what your opac look like ? 13:14 muaz KOHA WORK GOOOD 13:16 drojf we should have a google group for video tutorials 13:19 muaz HI 13:19 muaz IAM WAITE 13:22 oleonard Hi #koha 13:22 drojf hi oleonard 13:23 jcamins muaz: your caps lock is turned on. 13:23 muaz sorry 13:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7143' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6081b94e3c3af21e90f14b73611216d1c4cbd31d> / Bug 7143: Small fix for About page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd63817139f3011afdaa23a93adc41966e28a3f3> / Bug 7143 About changes for 3.12 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2bc5b29cc1d7f5e42fb74730d8271741d02b 13:48 kf http://people.oregonstate.edu/~reeset/blog/archives/1123 13:50 oleonard Has anyone heard from him on the mailing list or IRC? 13:52 kf hm haven't seen anything 13:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_6680' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bfb67119ce4fdf09a83bc865f68dededa7bdb7cd> / Follow up to Bug 6680: tiny up download lists formats <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7954504f3d8e138cf385604617bd88711717df6> / Bug 6680 - simple tidy-up of cart download format descriptions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a 13:54 oleonard I don't get it. Or maybe he doesn't get how open source works (contributing perhaps to the fact that MarcEdit isn't FOSS) 13:55 paul_p oleonard = same for me. Nice that he started by adding Koha, too bad that he made this on his island ;-) 13:55 paul_p jcamins_away = just passed QA bug 7167 (after testing the squashed I just uploaded)... hoping you'll push it... 13:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , updatedatabase improvements 13:56 kf paul_p: I woud like to see a second qa opinon on this - you were heavily involved in development here 13:58 drojf kf++ # for being annoying :) 13:59 paul_p kf marcel made a lot of QA already. I really think we've enough. But jared final cut. 14:00 kf ok 14:00 drojf respect the QAMs authority 14:00 drojf :P 14:02 oleonard nengard: http://fredericiana.com/2012/11/27/upshot-osx-screenshot-sharing-with-dropbox/ 14:02 nengard neat oleonard 14:04 oleonard I know Jing works well, but it's nice that that is open source. 14:04 nengard yup, except that you need dropbox 14:04 oleonard Well, except for the Dropbox part :P 14:05 nengard hehe 14:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #956: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/956/ 14:22 jenkins_koha tomascohen: Bug 9142 - Remove the use of subtests 14:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9142 blocker, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Failing test case in 3.10.0 release. 14:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #957 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:02 vfernandes guys what happens when OPACSuppresion is on and we add a record without suppress subfield? 15:05 nengard if you don't have at least one record with 942$n set to 1 then you will get no results at all for any search 15:05 nengard but if you have 1 in the system and you add another without it you're fine 15:13 vfernandes I know that... imagine that I have one record with 942$n set, then I add another without 942$n 15:14 vfernandes what happens to the new record? appears or not in OPAC? 15:22 nengard It appears 15:24 vfernandes ok thanks nengard :) 15:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #957: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/957/ 15:30 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9132: Paging through OPAC authority search results does not work 15:30 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9132: Paging through OPAC authority search results does not work (followup 1) input with and_ora instread of and_or 15:30 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 2832: [SIGNED-OFF] Followup: Add a default value 15:30 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 7143 About changes for 3.12 15:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9132 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Paging through OPAC authority search results does not work 15:30 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7143: Small fix for About page 15:30 jenkins_koha * koha: Bug 9098 Replace tabulations by spaces in opac-user.pl 15:30 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6680 - simple tidy-up of cart download format descriptions 15:30 jenkins_koha * nengard: Follow up to Bug 6680: tiny up download lists formats 15:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2832 normal, P3, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Make alphabet localizable 15:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page 15:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9098 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace tabulations by spaces in opac-user.pl 15:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6680 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Cart download choices not understandable to patrons 15:32 jcamins Success! \o/ 16:02 vfernandes patch submitted to validation workflow - BUG 9163 16:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9163 new feature, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Cataloguing validation workflow 16:04 jcamins vfernandes: perhaps it would be better to make a new permission for users instead of having a list of users in a syspref? 16:04 reiveune1 bye 16:04 jcamins permissions? 16:05 jcamins Alas, no wiki page on permissions. 16:06 vfernandes magnuse said the same thing but if the validation is off the permission makes no sense 16:06 drojf hi again #koha 16:06 vfernandes but I can create a permission for that 16:06 vfernandes which is the best way to do that? 16:07 jcamins vfernandes: I think it's still superior. 16:07 jcamins Unfortunately there's no wiki page explaining how to create permissions that I can see. 16:07 vfernandes that's bad :/ 16:08 jcamins It's not very ahrd. 16:08 jcamins *hard 16:08 drojf oleonard: you actually found a koha link on the website! either i missed it or it was not there when i looked. it looks kind of arbitrarily placed ;) 16:08 oleonard Yes, I think hastily. 16:08 vfernandes jcamins perl is not a problem for me... founding things it's harder :D 16:09 jcamins vfernandes: I don't have an example, but you can certainly find one on bugzilla. 16:09 jcamins Bug 7673, maybe. 16:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7673 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Failed QA , New patron permissions 16:09 drojf oleonard: services: seo services ;) 16:12 vfernandes there is the need to change all language/mandatory/userpermission.pl? 16:12 jcamins Yes. 16:12 jcamins You must add the permission to every single language. 16:12 jcamins You don't have to translate it. 16:12 jcamins You can just put the English string in. 16:13 vfernandes ok... 16:13 vfernandes i'll try to change the code to use user permissions 16:14 vfernandes how in perl I check if a user have permissions to something? I don't want to search it on the code :P 16:15 jcamins It's in every single script. 16:15 jcamins I am confident you can find it. 16:15 jcamins I actually didn't memorize every single line in the entire Koha codebase. I just judiciously copy and paste what I need. 16:15 jcamins It should be near the top of each script... something to do with permissions. 16:16 vfernandes roger that :) 16:18 drojf (17:12:44) jcamins: I actually didn't memorize every single line in the entire Koha codebase. <--- WHAT KIND OF RELEASE MANAGER ARE YOU??!!?!11 16:18 jcamins drojf: a sane one. 16:18 jcamins :P 16:18 drojf heh 16:18 vfernandes $loggedinuser in get template gives userid logged? 16:18 drojf jcamins: i am shocked! :P 16:19 jcamins That's what I was thinking of. Yes. 16:21 oleonard Okay, the list of bugs marked "pushed to master" is now down to below 500. *whew* 16:22 vfernandes gives the borrowernumber 16:22 jcamins oleonard++ 16:23 * chris_n gives oleonard a pat on the back and more strong coffee 16:24 oleonard I encourage everyone to generate a list of bugs which you have reported which are marked as pushed. Those should be the easiest ones for you to confirm as fixed. 16:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #3 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: FIXED) 16:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #235 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 4 days ago) 16:29 magnuse oleonard++ 16:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #3: SUCCESS in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/3/ 16:29 jenkins_koha nengard: update message crons 16:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #235: STILL FAILING in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/235/ 16:29 jenkins_koha nengard: update message crons 16:30 magnuse when a bug is "pushed to master", how do we know it's not a candidate for pushing to stable? should we assume that it will be pushed to stable quickly after it has been pushed to master or not at all? 16:31 jcamins magnuse: if it hasn't been pushed to stable within a month, it's not going. 16:31 magnuse jcamins: cool 16:39 jcamins oleonard: did you see I asked you to rebase some patchset? 16:40 jcamins Bug 7067 maybe. 16:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Patch doesn't apply , allow patron self registration via the opac 16:40 oleonard yes 16:40 jcamins Okay, good. 16:40 jcamins Take your time. 16:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #4 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #236 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 4 days ago) 16:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #4: SUCCESS in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/4/ 16:43 jenkins_koha * nengard: fix formatting of AutoSelfCheckAllowed pref 16:43 jenkins_koha * nengard: update FRBRizeEditions preferences 16:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #236: STILL FAILING in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/236/ 16:43 jenkins_koha * nengard: fix formatting of AutoSelfCheckAllowed pref 16:43 jenkins_koha * nengard: update FRBRizeEditions preferences 16:49 jcamins Ooh, I'd forgotten about that logging module. 16:49 jcamins I'm very excited for it! 16:53 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Free Intro to Koha 3.10 Webinars http://t.co/jy9SwToL" 16:53 drojf could somebody mute/unsub the out of office person on the patch list please? december 10 is still some time away 16:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #237 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 4 days ago) 16:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #237: STILL FAILING in 19 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/237/ 16:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: add 'get there' statements 16:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: update patron permissions image 16:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: add more 'get there' statements 16:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: add description to holds 16:59 * jcamins sends a _very_ tetchy e-mail. 17:00 jcamins He is providing an incentive to *not* make it easy to search non-Roman character sets. 17:04 jcamins drojf: if only we had a Google Group, eh? 17:04 drojf :P 17:05 drojf behold the wrath of "all the people in the arabic world" regarding not making it easy to search non-roman characters 17:06 drojf i actually meant "beware", you will behold it later ;) 17:06 jcamins Ah. 17:07 jcamins He has an unusual amount of self-entitlement. 17:10 drojf oh it's the indian world this time 17:11 jcamins drojf: no, that was koyauni. 17:11 drojf ha yes i just saw it. always trust the gut feeling :D 17:13 drojf i don't find appropriate words to express my feelings about that mail you got. 17:13 jcamins "wtf?" and "bwahahahaha" come to mind, depending on your view of humanity. 17:13 drojf :) 17:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #238 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 4 days ago) 17:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #238: STILL FAILING in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/238/ 17:14 jenkins_koha * nengard: update hold list image 17:14 jenkins_koha * nengard: updated holds section with links 17:14 jenkins_koha * nengard: update hold image 17:14 jenkins_koha * nengard: add more 'get there' statements 17:15 oleonard Man, asking a question in #jquery is like shouting into a tornado. 17:15 jcamins oleonard: very active? 17:16 oleonard Well, not especially I guess... Maybe it's more like asking a question of a small pile of rocks. 17:16 jcamins lol 17:16 drojf maybe that is where our friend with the opac colour came from. he still had the shouting 17:18 jcamins So here is a question. 17:18 jcamins You know how some people are underliners, and they underline things in books they read? 17:18 jcamins Does anyone ever get past page 50? 17:18 jcamins I have cataloged dozens if not hundreds of books with underlining, and I don't think I've ever seen it past page 50 or so. 17:20 drojf interesting. you should get some funding and write a paper on it ;) 17:21 jcamins lol 17:21 drojf i think i have seen underlining everywhere. but that may be just because of different articles in a volume 17:22 drojf so students don't read the whole book and can start with fresh underlining power at page 278 17:22 jcamins lol 17:22 jcamins Yeah, I have seen that. 17:23 nengard the view from where i sit http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/archives/date-posted/2012/11/28/ 17:24 jcamins nengard: does the gray one have a head? 17:25 nengard hehe - those are all Beau 17:25 nengard the ones with his head showing were this morning 17:25 nengard and in the one on his back his head is under the blanket 17:25 jcamins Hehe. 17:25 nengard trying so hard not to laugh at him 17:25 nengard don't want to wake him 17:28 jcamins vfernandes++ 17:30 vfernandes jcamins second patch for the bug sent :) 17:32 vfernandes tomorrow i'll focus my energy solving bug 8347 17:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8347 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' 17:33 jcamins vfernandes: that will make a lot of people very happy, I think. :) 17:35 vfernandes that should be a system preference and should be changed from enhancement to major bug (maybe)... I've already done the same thing to the authorities (bug 9144)... 17:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9144 trivial, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , bulkmarcimport.pl - Problem identifying errors 17:35 vfernandes bug 9145 :) 17:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9145 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Authorities: standard language for UNIMARC 17:37 jcamins Reindexing 720k records is painfully slow. 17:38 vfernandes 720k? the maximum that I've reindexed was 250k 17:38 vfernandes and it was slow slow slow 17:42 jcamins Yeah... unfortunately I didn't use enough '-v's and I'm not even getting any progress information. 17:45 jcamins When it finishes I am copying the Zebra indexes and trying to avoid ever reindexing again. 17:48 jcamins Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!! 17:48 jcamins It finished. 17:48 jcamins It died. 17:51 jcamins It takes 9 seconds per thousand records. 17:51 jcamins 9 * 721 17:51 jcamins wahanui: 9 * 721 17:51 wahanui 6489 17:51 jcamins That should be just under two hours. 17:52 vfernandes 2 hours... autch :P 17:52 jcamins Except it was running for almost four and hadn't finished. 17:53 jcamins So clearly it doesn't scale linearly. 17:53 * jcamins throws Zebra a bunch more RAM, starts again. 17:53 * chris_n suggests jcamins try throwing straw or hay instead 17:54 tcohen you should use nosanitize BTW 17:54 chris_n hi cait 17:54 tcohen if you have a bunch of RAM maybe a tmpfs and then copy to destination 17:55 jcamins tcohen: nosanitize is for exporting, though, isn't it? 17:55 cait hi chris_n 17:56 tcohen jcamins, for rebuild_zebra, for the export step (which takes way too much time without that switch) 17:56 jcamins tcohen: yeah, I already had everything exported. 17:56 jcamins Though that's a good point... could be that's what all the time was taken up with. 17:57 jcamins In fact, it almost surely was. 17:57 oleonard In debugging localization of the datepicker I notice people aren't translating the two-letter day abbreviations. Are these not common in other languages or are the strings too ambiguous in the translation process? 17:57 tcohen that, and IO are the bottlenecks 17:57 oleonard cait? magnuse? 17:58 drojf oleonard: they are common in german 17:58 drojf not sure why they are not translated 17:59 oleonard I could see how having, for instance, "Fr" come up in the translation process could be confusing. 17:59 drojf probably that, yes 18:00 cait oleonard? 18:00 wahanui oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer 18:01 oleonard cait, see my datepicker localization question above 18:01 cait oleonard: Montag is Monday 18:01 cait Friday is Freitag 18:01 cait Saturday is Samstag ... lots of them are the same 18:01 cait for German 18:02 cait I think I caught the others in translation, but not everyone checks where the string comes from 18:02 cait so they are probably confusing for some translators 18:02 cait ah, now I finished reading back, was that the answer you were looking for? :) 18:03 * cait waves to drojf 18:03 oleonard I think so 18:06 drojf hola cait 18:08 drojf if i was more fond of live cds i could make one of koha as a business card for the workshop ;) 18:11 jcamins 96k in. 18:11 drojf "please keep the hard work" vs. "thank you for your hard work"… 18:11 jcamins lol 18:14 jcamins drojf: here's one with underlining on page 78. 18:14 jcamins I was very impressed. 18:14 jcamins Then I realized that it's page 2 of the conclusion. 18:15 drojf :D 18:15 drojf who has time to read the whole book? ;) 18:34 rangi Morning 18:34 wahanui Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. 18:47 rangi @wunder nzwn 18:47 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 18:47 rangi Nice 18:50 rangi http://i.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/8007530/Library-is-close-to-going-electronic 18:53 rangi Hey trea 18:53 trea hi rangi 18:53 rangi 3 sunny days in a row 18:53 rangi It's a new record 18:53 trea heh 18:55 magnuse oleonard: i think i did piack out the abbreviations, and translate them 18:56 magnuse Fr is the same in nb-NO and en 19:02 cait no sun here... for like 2 weeks... 19:02 cait :( 19:02 jcamins cait: maybe now you can commiserate with magnuse? :) 19:04 drojf he may at least have northern lights 19:07 magnuse hm, it's been a while since i saw any aurora borealis 19:07 magnuse but i will not see the sun from where i live until ~9th of february... 19:07 cait ew 19:08 magnuse @wunder boo 19:08 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (7:50 PM CET on November 28, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 19:08 magnuse it hits the center of my town on ~9th of january, though 19:10 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Single Title Batch Item Modification in Koha 3.10 http://t.co/jCAFjhXg" 19:10 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Single Title Batch Item Modification in Koha 3.10 http://t.co/aelUpLEn #kohails" 19:18 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @BulganUgur: "Koha 3.10 Türkçe çevirilerine başladık #kohails" 19:26 rangi oleonard wins the prize, first library card to arrive 19:27 oleonard Hooray! 19:27 magnuse oleonard++ 19:27 cait oleonard++ 19:28 rangi the prize is 2 beverages of your choosing in reno 19:28 rangi (ill post some of our koha stickers too) 19:28 * cait starts printing library cards 19:28 rangi heh 19:29 rangi i have none from germany yet! 19:29 cait BSZ own library is actually using Koha :) 19:31 drojf we don't have library cards :( 19:34 magnuse hm, i could send you a card from the naval academy, but then i would have to kill you ;-) 19:34 cait drojf: same for us 19:34 rangi heh 19:35 rambutan rangi is collecting library cards? 19:35 rangi you didn't see my email? 19:36 rambutan uh.... 19:37 rambutan uh, oh, yea. I did. I see it. 19:37 rangi daniel is gonna put it in the newsletter anyway i think 19:38 rangi progress is being made 19:38 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/8179693263/in/photostream 19:38 * francharb waves 19:38 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/8228042514/in/photostream <-- now 19:39 cait :) 19:39 rangi hi francharb 19:41 francharb hi :) 19:43 cait good morning kathryn :) 19:43 kathryn and a good evening to you cait :) 19:47 magnuse rangi: cool 3d logo too! 19:48 rangi ah yep thats seen a few conferences :) 19:49 cait :) 19:49 magnuse yay 19:51 magnuse weirdness: i switch to the cssr theme, but nothing happens. on 3.10 running off the packages 19:51 magnuse are there any extra steps required? 19:54 magnuse i'm also getting logged out of the staff side a lot 19:54 magnuse and opac does not show me as logged in even though i am logged into staff 19:54 magnuse huh? 19:55 cait do you have both on different domains? 19:55 magnuse marc21.testing.bibkat.no and marc21.testing.bibkat.no:8080 19:55 cait hm 19:56 magnuse [off] login with demo/demo if you want to try it 19:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #239 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 5 days ago) 19:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #239: STILL FAILING in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/239/ 19:59 jenkins_koha nengard: update overdues image 20:09 nengard i'm working on the manual (obviously) and I need some help 20:09 nengard The analytics section says "To view all of the items tied to the host record, do a search for the record, click the Analytics tab on the left and the analytics tied to each barcode will be shown under the "Used in" column." 20:10 nengard but I don't see anything under the 'Used In' column on any of my records 20:10 nengard I do see 'Host records' with a link though 20:10 nengard what should show in 'used in'? 20:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #240 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 5 days ago) 20:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #240: STILL FAILING in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/240/ 20:14 jenkins_koha nengard: update cataloging images 20:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #241 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 5 days ago) 20:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #241: STILL FAILING in 19 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/241/ 20:29 jenkins_koha * nengard: update analytics 20:29 jenkins_koha * nengard: update more cataloging images 20:31 oleonard jcamins_away: Rebased patches submitted to Bug 7067. 20:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7067 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , allow patron self registration via the opac 20:33 oleonard Does anyone else see this "Debug is on (level 1)" message on memberentry.pl, mentioned on Bug 5280? I don't. 20:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5280 enhancement, P4, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Fix password field in members.pl so that the password is masked as it is entered 20:35 cait hm not yet 20:37 garyb Hello...hope someone can help with an upgrade of 3.8 to 3.10 20:39 drojf sudo apt-get dist-upgrade 20:41 oleonard jcamins: Bug 9106 says "pushed to master" but as far as I can tell it hasn't been 20:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9106 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Filtering list of uncertain price list by owner empties order information 20:42 jcamins oleonard: let me check. 20:43 jcamins Indeed it does not. 20:43 jcamins Okay, there it is. 20:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #242 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 5 days ago) 20:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #242: STILL FAILING in 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/242/ 20:44 jenkins_koha nengard: update more cataloging images 20:46 oleonard jcamins++ 20:48 rambutan jcamins: did the zebra index finish OK? 20:49 jcamins rambutan: alas, it segfaulted. 20:49 jcamins After finishing. 20:49 rambutan hummm 20:50 garyb Doing the upgrade from 3.8 --> 3.10 on 64-bit Debian 6.0.6 using koha-common package. I keep getting the message that the package is being "kept back". It appears libdigest-jhash-perl has a dependency of perlapi-5.14.2 but the standard version of perl in squeeze is 5.10.1-17. Is there a workaround? 20:50 jcamins It hates me, clearly. 20:50 jcamins garyb: I can tell you that the dependency is unnecessary, but I don't know how to work around it. 20:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9106' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=51b671224f08f40518e40461328d07ebd5df0968> 20:53 jcamins Right... problem seems to be a massively corrupted record + ICU. 20:54 lavamind hello 20:55 lavamind I would like to run multiple instances of Koha, starting from an identical database 20:55 jcamins lavamind: you can copy the database as many times as you'd like using mysqldump. 20:55 lavamind my question is about zebra : can I simply copy the index files as well, or do I need to absolutely generate them with koha-rebuild 20:56 jcamins You can copy the index files. 20:56 lavamind yes! 20:56 jcamins Right... back to CHR I go for bibs. 20:56 lavamind thanks 20:57 jcamins Wait, we still can't switch off ICU for just one database. 20:57 * jcamins grumbles. 20:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #958 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:04 drojf garyb: have you tried dist-upgrade? 21:05 jcamins drojf: perl 5.14 is from Ubuntu. 21:06 garyb I have. That was one of the first things I found online. While the "Packages" file for 32-bit lists 5.10.1, the 64-bit one lists 5.14.2 21:06 drojf hrm 21:06 jcamins garyb: that's because the 64bit one was built on my system, wich has Perl 5.14.2, apparently. 21:06 jcamins Unfortunately, I don't know how to change that. 21:07 garyb Is this something that might be addressed in 3.10.1? 21:09 rangi garyb: you are running 32 bit now? 21:09 jcamins garyb: it depends if the package manager gets access to a 64-bit system. 21:09 garyb No, 64-bit 21:09 rangi right 21:09 jcamins I don't know how to change the version of Perl that my packages ask for. 21:09 rangi heres a trick you can do 21:09 rangi jcamins: you edit the control file 21:10 jcamins rangi: I didn't generate the control file, though. 21:10 jcamins rangi: it seems to be setting the version in spite of the fact that I'm using eythian's configuration. 21:10 rangi jcamins: what i do is this 21:10 rangi and garyb you could try this 21:11 rangi dh-make-perl make --cpan Digest::Jhash 21:12 rangi cd Digest-JHash-0.07 21:12 jcamins Maybe if I tried pdebuild that'd do it. 21:13 rangi dch -i 21:13 rangi edit the changelog 21:13 rangi mine now says 21:14 rangi libdigest-jhash-perl (0.07-1ubuntu1) quantal; urgency=low 21:14 rangi debuild -us -uc 21:14 rangi that will build a package that will work fine on my system 21:15 rangi so garyb could now 21:15 rangi sudo dpkg -i ../libdigest-jhash-perl_0.07-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb 21:15 rangi (thats only fixing it for his situation) 21:15 rangi but yes for general you would do all the above 21:15 rangi but first you would do 21:16 rangi sudo pbuilder --login 21:16 rangi and do it in there :) 21:16 rangi at least i think that would work 21:16 garyb Thanks rangi, but I'm also concerned that others running 64-bit squeeze are seeing the same issue 21:17 rangi yep they will be, it'll be something fixed before 3.10.1 21:17 jcamins rangi: ooooh, cever. 21:17 jcamins *clever 21:17 jcamins I hadn't thought of just logging into pbuilder and doing it there. 21:17 rangi we'll probably have a 3.10.0-2 shortly 21:17 rangi actually no 21:18 rangi we'll have a libdigest-jhash-perl_0.07-2 or something 21:18 rangi that is happy wiht 5.10 21:18 jcamins Yeah, now that you explained how to do it, I'll build the package and leave it for eythian. 21:18 rangi >= 5.10 anyway 21:18 rangi awesome thanks 21:19 garyb Thanks, all. I'll stick with 3.8 for now and try the upgrade later. 21:23 magnuse rangi++ jcamins++ 21:24 cait :) 21:24 cait rangi++ 21:24 cait he knows why 21:24 cait hehe 21:26 magnuse my problems from earlier seems to have been solved by removing all the other instances on that server. must research it some more, but not now 21:27 jcamins What problems? 21:27 magnuse weirdness 21:27 magnuse getting logged out of the staff client 21:28 jcamins Okay, that didn't work. 21:28 rangi magnuse: using memcached ? 21:28 magnuse sysprefs not saving 21:28 magnuse rangi: nope 21:28 rangi hmm 21:28 jcamins debuild uses fakeroot. 21:28 magnuse plain vanilla install of the 3.10 packages 21:28 magnuse it could have been a mysql problem, somehow 21:29 jcamins magnuse: gibberish in your timeout syspref. 21:29 magnuse 12000000? 21:29 jcamins I've had that happen before, though I thought was fixed. 21:29 jcamins Oh well. 21:29 jcamins So much for that idea. 21:29 magnuse ...is what it says now 21:30 magnuse i'll do some more research in a day or two, and let y'all know 21:31 * magnuse wishes #koha a good night or other time of the day 21:32 jcamins rangi: do you think you could build a package using dh-make-perl and tell me what dependencies the package ends up with? 21:33 rangi i just did, but its quantal, so 5.14 21:33 jcamins Oh. 21:33 jcamins Right. 21:33 jcamins Hm. 21:33 jcamins Oh! 21:33 jcamins The 32-bit package has Squeeze dependencies. 21:33 rangi ah yep 21:37 jcamins I think I got it. 21:38 jcamins @later tell eythian I have a new version of the amd64 packages for libdigest-jhash-perl at http://kohadev.cpbibliography.com/libdigest-jhash-amd64.tar.gz 21:38 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 21:39 rangi nice! 21:40 jcamins 467k records in. 21:41 jcamins If it dies again I shall be very unhappy. 21:42 * cait shall send you cookies 21:43 jcamins I'd take those either way. :) 21:43 cait and cookies for everyone giving an opinion on my latest mail to koha devel :) 21:47 eythian jcamins: ta 21:50 rangi http://demo.mykoha.co.nz/ 21:50 rangi now running from the demo server 21:50 cait rangi: did you develop a hobbit mobile theme? 21:51 rangi naw, but can you check that is 3.8.6 for you? 21:51 cait rangi: broken js for me hm 21:51 rangi can you do a shift-refresh please 21:51 cait hm css 21:51 cait yep i did 21:51 rangi i had to do a couple then it seemed come right 21:51 rangi the cart? 21:51 cait diyoumaybe miss moving a separate css file? 21:51 wahanui it has been said that the cart is turned on, not sure lists should matter? (in the staff client) 21:51 rangi it is 3.8.6 for you eh? 21:52 eythian it doesn't reference files on an internal server does it? 21:52 rangi ah probably 21:52 cait rangi: layout still broken . checking version now 21:52 cait /opac-tmpl/prog/en/css/http://poe.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz/design/CatalystIT-DESIGN/Koha/mykohatheme/en/css/mykoha.css" /> 21:52 cait that does look a bit weird 21:52 rangi yeah, ill fix 21:53 cait but yes for the version :) 21:56 rangi shift refresh now? 21:56 eythian jcamins: new packages uploading 21:56 eythian s/ing/ed/ 21:58 cait rangi: looks lots better 21:58 cait but still some weirdess 21:58 cait is it iintentional the cart pic is missing? 21:58 rangi probably not 22:04 jcamins Got up to 695k... that's farther than we got before. 22:08 drojf jcamins: fingers crossed 22:09 jcamins Merging now. 22:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #958: SUCCESS in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/958/ 22:12 jenkins_koha oleonard: Bug 9106 - Filtering list of uncertain price list by owner empties order information 22:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9106 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Filtering list of uncertain price list by owner empties order information 22:12 jcamins I don't see anywhere to enter a barcode on the order receive page. 22:14 jcamins Oh, right. 22:14 jcamins I always forget that acquisitions DOESN'T WORK ON STOCK KOHA. 22:14 cait ? 22:15 jcamins Without an ACQ framework, which isn't automatically created, it doesn't work. 22:15 cait it used to work 22:15 cait they broke it :( 22:16 jcamins Hm. 22:18 eythian yeah, it definitely used to work. 22:21 cait jcamins: sounds like a bug 22:21 jcamins cait: yeah. 22:21 jcamins It's called the Acquisitions module. 22:21 cait well... 22:22 cait eah, but let's start with small steps 22:22 jcamins cait: small steps are going to be difficult... I'm not pushing anything that I can't even kind of test. 22:22 cait jcamins: i agree with you 22:23 cait which patch are you looking at? 22:23 cait and I meant rewriting the acq framework will be hard - so we have to fix it small steps 22:23 jcamins bug 8557. 22:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8557 normal, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Passed QA , in orderreceive.tt and serials-edit.tt the use of a barcode scan send the form unexpectedly 22:23 cait at least until you ifnished the search rewrite ;) 22:23 cait and then you can start on acq 22:23 cait hm rewriting acquisitions 22:23 * cait had a long day 22:24 cait jcamins: and your default framework has no barcode? 22:24 cait what exactly are you doing? I could test and I think I don't have one hm. 22:24 jcamins No, it's much worse than that. 22:24 jcamins The majority of the acquisitions module simply does not do anything at all. 22:25 jcamins The screen that the patch is supposd to change doesn't include anywhere to edit a barcode. 22:25 cait jcamins: did you set AcqCreateItem to on receive? 22:25 cait it sounds like you hve it 'on order' 22:26 jcamins I didn't set anything. 22:26 jcamins That's why I asked for a detailed test plan from the beginning. 22:26 jcamins I habitually avoid the Acquisitions module because it's bad for my blood pressure. 22:27 cait it's in the bug somewhere 22:28 francharb see ya later! 22:28 * francharb waves at #koha 22:28 * jcamins has an average of fifteen bugs to review every time he has a chance to work on RMy things. People will learn not to bury the lede. :) 22:28 cait hehe 22:28 jcamins And to provide test plans. 22:28 cait I can't find it in th bug now to be honest 22:28 jcamins It might be there. 22:29 * jcamins should have a rule: after ten minutes of not being able to figure out what the deal is with a patch, it is automatically failed. 22:30 cait jcamins: to do the patch justice - first sentence in the very first message on the bug :) 22:30 cait in orderreceive when you receive an order with 'AcqCreateItem ' on 'receiving', you must first fill the 'Item' block and validating by clicking 'add' before clicking the 'save' button. 22:31 cait maybe it would be good to remind people to put that into their commit messages too :) 22:31 jcamins Yes, I will do that. 22:34 eythian cait: that wouldn't work 22:35 eythian because if it's a bug reported by an end-user, you can't always expect it to be in that form. 22:35 eythian (I was going to say "coherent", but I guess it's just Cynical Thursday today) 22:35 jcamins eythian: sorry, if the developer can't copy and paste, I'm not pushing the patch anyway. 22:36 eythian jcamins: but what happens if the developer didn't create the bug request? They have no control over the first message on the bug. 22:36 jcamins But I don't look at the first message in the bug. 22:36 jcamins I couldn't care less what's there. 22:37 jcamins I want the commit message to tell me what I need to know. 22:37 jcamins Otherwise, I have to do the developer's job *and* my job. 22:38 eythian that's why I was replying to: <cait> jcamins: to do the patch justice - first sentence in the very first message on the bug :) 22:38 wizzyrea I wouldn't mind the description 22:38 jcamins Oh, cait's saying the explanation is there. 22:38 eythian ohh 22:38 eythian I misread then 22:38 jcamins I think. 22:38 * jcamins isn't looking. 22:38 * eythian goes back to whatever it is he's supposed to be doing 22:39 cait lol 22:39 jcamins I'm writing an e-mail saying "if you don't include the information I need on the commit message, you're begging for your patches to be left dangling." 22:39 cait I step away for a short moment... 22:39 * wizzyrea hopes you actually say what info you want >.> 22:39 cait eythian, jcamins: what I meant was remind the patch writers to put all needed informaton in the commit message - so I guess we all agree actually :) 22:39 jcamins wizzyrea: yes. 22:39 wizzyrea I consider test plans to be not-optional 22:39 wizzyrea :P 22:40 wizzyrea coherent test plans. 22:52 cait :) 22:52 cait good night #koha! 23:17 jcamins mveron++ 23:30 jcamins wizzyrea: was that clear enough? 23:30 jcamins About what I want, I mean. :) 23:31 jcamins And by "want" I of course mean "require." 23:33 jcamins Bet no one realized I was such an irascible martinet. :P 23:33 * eythian plans commit messages in sonnet form 23:34 jcamins eythian: commit messages of literary merit receive bonus points. 23:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9030' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9aa1969a04f25e65264f4ef10bad4e3573a53f22> / Bug 9030: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc5f9034b6fa86ef76e01cb8a5cb8289bc48a8f8> / Bug 9030: Add constraint on aqorders_items.ordernumber <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=550ac77bfd019 23:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #959 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:59 jcamins @later tell melia If you run `git config --global user.email "melia AT bywatersolutions.com"` (without the backticks, and putting in an @ character) on the system you're using for testing, your actual e-mail address will appear on signoffs instead of the @test.bywatersolutions.com address. I think rangi and I both have mapping files so that those signoffs are collapsed into your regular address, but you might want to change it anyway. 23:59 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 23:59 jcamins Of course, I only noticed that after merging.