Time Nick Message 00:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #67: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/67/ 00:25 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 8953 - opac-userupdate encoding issues 00:25 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: But 8787: don't load the page if OpacMaintenance is ON 00:25 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8910 - silent warnings triggered in about.pl 00:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8953 critical, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, RESOLVED FIXED, opac-userupdate encoding issues 00:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8910 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, RESOLVED FIXED, silent warnings triggered in about.pl 00:36 wizzyrea squee! 00:36 wizzyrea and stay fixed! 00:36 * wizzyrea does a little dance 00:43 mtj eythian, did your koha-shell script get pushed? 00:43 eythian mtj: not sure off the top of my head 00:44 mtj ahh needs signoff bug 8878 00:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8878 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , koha-shell: a command to make using koha commands easier 01:19 eythian wahanui: germs is also http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg 01:19 wahanui okay, eythian. 01:19 eythian wahanui: germs 01:19 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 01:19 eythian wahanui: germs 01:19 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 01:19 eythian wahanui: germs 01:19 wahanui rumour has it germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg 01:29 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ranginui: ". @arwenamin #kohails already has Solr its been in master since june, is in the 3.10.0 release in a few days, in production already #ndf2012" 02:01 jcamins bug 8665 02:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8665 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , DOM indexing fails to index some bib records 03:48 eythian wahanui: code smell is http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Wrong.html 03:48 wahanui OK, eythian. 05:22 Oak Ahoy me hearties! 05:54 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @IrmaLibraries: "#kohails Nice write up about the 2nd Melbourne Koha-oz meeting with helpful format suggestions! Thanks Emily :-) http://t.co/HoVngaCh" 07:30 * magnuse waves 07:40 reiveune hello 07:40 magnuse bonjour reiveune 07:46 alex_a bonjour 07:51 julian_m hello 07:51 wahanui salut, julian_m 07:59 asaurat hi 08:04 lds hzllo 08:04 lds sorry, hello 08:11 gaetan_B hello 08:58 magnuse @later tell wizzyrea: if 8941 applies cleanly it would be nice to have in 3.6.x, but don't put too much effort into it 08:58 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 09:49 magnuse @arewethereyet 09:49 huginn magnuse: Not yet - wait 3 days 09:49 magnuse oh, paul_p around? 09:49 paul_p magnuse around bodo ? nope ;-) 09:49 paul_p @wunder bodo 09:50 huginn paul_p: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (10:20 AM CET on November 19, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Steady). 09:50 magnuse hehe 09:50 paul_p @wunder marseille 09:50 huginn paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 12.0°C (10:30 AM CET on November 19, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 09:50 magnuse yeah yeah, rub it in :-) 09:50 paul_p I stay in Marseille :D :D 09:50 magnuse talking of which: are the days for the hackfest settled? 09:50 * paul_p still working on release notes... 09:50 paul_p magnuse I think so, because brendan already bought 2 tickets for him and Eliott ;-) 09:51 paul_p so let it be march 18th - 22th 09:51 magnuse yay 09:51 magnuse if we can get someone to watch the dogs i'll bring the whole family 09:51 magnuse and stay an extra week - easter! 09:52 paul_p really good idea ! 09:53 magnuse :-) 11:17 nafeesapatel Hi, in the past week or so I have translated some coding to english format and none of my submissions have been reviewed. Have you any idea how long this process will take? 11:52 jcamins_away nafeesapatel: if you mean you submitted patches to Koha, it depends on a lot of factors. 11:53 jcamins How hard they are to test is the most important one. 11:53 jcamins Which bugs did you submit patches for? 11:55 jcamins If you mean on translate.koha-community.org, you might want to send an e-mail to the koha-translate list. 11:59 nafeesapatel yeah i did translate on the koha community...urrm, will you be able to give the me the email for koha-tranlsate? 11:59 jcamins mailing lists? 11:59 wahanui mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 11:59 jcamins ^^ if you are doing translating, you should subscribe to the koha-translate mailing list. 12:03 nafeesapatel yeah i've done that, it's just that I am translating as part of my assignment for university and it's been 2 weeks and I can't do any work until someone accepts my reviews 12:04 nafeesapatel thanks for the help though :) 12:10 jcamins You should definitely e-mail koha-translate, then. 12:10 jcamins I just took a look, and it looks like you translated for UK English, and I'm not sure that's maintained at all. 12:12 jcamins (so I don't know who needs to approve them) 12:15 nafeesapatel mhmm well I have emailed them and I see how it goes from there...is this website active? 12:15 tcohen morning #koha! 12:23 jcamins What website? 12:23 wahanui website is http://www.koha-community.org 12:23 jcamins wahanui: thanks, but I was asking nafeesapatel. 12:23 wahanui jcamins: sure thing 12:23 jcamins (wahanui is a bot) 12:23 jcamins (wahanui? 12:23 wahanui (wahanui is a bot, and he sometimes remembers silly things) 12:23 jcamins (jcamins? 12:24 jcamins An amusing bot. 12:26 nafeesapatel This koha website because it seems like it's not that's probably why I have not been given any feedback 12:27 jcamins I don't know what you mean by "active." 12:27 nafeesapatel meaning, it's not updated daily etc 12:27 jcamins translate.koha-community.org is very active, but koha-community.org is a static website. 12:27 nafeesapatel ok 12:28 jcamins There wouldn't be anything that needed updating daily even if someone were interested in volunteering hours of their time every day writing content for koha-community.org. 12:31 jcamins @later tell drojf The solution to everything is to replace Koha with Google! 12:31 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 12:34 reiveune bye 12:44 magnuse gah! why on earth would my records display "norwegian wovels" as garbage in search results but look normal in detail view? 12:51 magnuse it's the same in the opac and the intranet. using xslt everywhere 12:53 paul_p magnuse = can it be because search results comes from zebra while detail comes from mySQL ? 12:54 magnuse yeah, that sounds like it might do it 12:54 jcamins magnuse: possibly the records are in MARC-8 and getting mangled by Zebra? 12:55 magnuse ummm... i forgot to reindex after the last import... 12:55 jcamins That might also have something to do with it. 12:56 * magnuse blushes 12:58 magnuse yup, problem solved 12:58 magnuse thanks paul_p and jcamins 13:00 * magnuse takes the dogs for a walk 13:15 oleonard Hideley-ho, Koharinos. 13:29 wajasu i've mentioned deleting all my auth_header (authorites) and running misc/link_bibs_to_authorites.pl with auto_generate authorities on. 13:29 wajasu it seems there are lots of dups. 13:30 wajasu i think it might be because as each bib is selected and the authority is searched for in the zebra index, non are found. 13:31 wajasu or at least only two get linked to the same auth record 13:32 wajasu so its probably fine when you catalog, wait unitl zebra reindexes, and catalog again, but not for a batch routine. 13:32 wajasu i'll have to look into this tonight. 13:37 jcamins wajasu: yes, that's correct. The only solution would be to generate authorities one at a time. 13:37 jcamins link_bibs_to_authorities.pl really was intended for just what the name says... linking. 13:39 jcamins Ooh, I'm a "developer guy." 13:39 wajasu ha ha 13:41 * wajasu off to work 13:44 oleonard Also, open source means nobody gets paid ever? 13:44 jcamins oleonard: no, people get paid. 13:44 jcamins Just not us. 13:44 * oleonard can confirm that 13:50 libsysguy ^^ hehe 13:56 oleonard brb 14:49 oleonard Hi maximep 14:51 maximep good morning =) 15:08 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Banning Library District Goes Live on Koha with ByWater Solutions http://t.co/sMxGzD1f #kohails" 15:31 nengard @later tell jcamins i know i asked you about the DidYouMeanFromAuthorities preference for the manual, but i can't find it in the irc logs - can you email me a short explanation of how it works? It's the only new feature not in the 3.10 manual yet 15:31 huginn nengard: The operation succeeded. 15:37 * chris_n hates it when the wiki lies 15:37 chris_n oh... and g'morning 15:38 paul_p phew... 43 pages of enhancements descriptions (LibreOffice document, with screenshots) ... I want this release to be as appealing as possible... 15:39 paul_p the nightmare being that, now, I'll have to translate all this into french for BibLibre customers... 15:40 oleonard chris_n: The wiki lies? 15:40 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Banning Library District Goes Live on Koha with ByWater Solutions http://t.co/oMBdjb13" 15:40 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Tagging in Koha 3.6 http://t.co/iaKRu4yk" 15:41 chris_n oleonard: on the git-bz page: "If you have more patches/commits you can use e.g. HEAD~2, HEAD~commitid etc to specify the range of commits you want to include." is patently false 15:42 chris_n git-bz does not know how to handle a range of commits 15:42 libsysguy I thought you had to include the interactive tag 15:42 libsysguy to make that work 15:42 chris_n at least not the flavor I received from the git.k-c.org 15:42 libsysguy which I think it says in the description 15:42 * libsysguy could be wrong 15:42 chris_n no word of that on the wiki 15:42 chris_n -e, yes 15:43 chris_n but it still only handles one at a time; at least in my case 8-P 15:43 paul_p chris_n = I thought that, but have found how to make it work 15:43 paul_p chris_n HEAD~2..HEAD should work 15:44 * chris_n tries 15:49 chris_n well its probably a stinking mess, but they're all signed-off (for the second time) and attached 15:50 * chris_n is not sure they will apply in the order attached, however 15:50 chris_n paul_p: tnx; bug 7167 is now signed off for the second time 15:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase improvements 15:52 chris_n jcamins ^^ 15:52 chris_n QA team ^^ 15:52 chris_n :) 15:53 chris_n doesn't bz have a drag-n-drop reorder feature for attachments? 16:00 jcamins_away chris_n: nope. :( 16:03 oleonard Bug 9106 causes data loss, so it would be great if someone could give my patch a try. 16:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9106 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Filtering list of uncertain price list by owner empties order information 16:05 maximep wow, the 3.10 release notes document is amazing! It really shows how much great work was done 16:08 jcamins maximep: and yet the first response to the announcement is from someone who refuses to listen to instructions demanding that we volunteer our time for his problem. 16:08 oleonard In big letters, too. 16:09 jcamins [off] I wish there were some diplomatic way to say "you should just purchase a commercial ILS and stop bugging us." 16:09 maximep huh, missed that 16:26 jcamins nengard: DidYouMeanFromAuthorities was removed. It was replaced by the Did You Mean configuration page. 16:26 jcamins nengard: that's why you didn't have documentation on it. 16:26 nengard okay, then that's what i mean 16:27 nengard i meant the admin page 16:27 nengard thought the pref was still there too 16:27 jcamins If it's still showing up, that was a merge error. 16:27 nengard that page isn't documented either 16:27 nengard but I do have 2 prefs: DidYouMeanFromAuthorities 16:27 nengard IncludeSeeFromInSearches 16:28 nengard under Searching 16:28 nengard on master as of this morning 16:28 jcamins IncludeSeeFromInSearches is something else entirely, but DidYouMeanFromAuthorities shouldn't be there anymore. 16:28 jcamins I'll write a patch to remove it. 16:29 nengard jcamins the two prefs are listed in one line on my install 16:29 nengard that's why i showed them both 16:31 jcamins Yeah, sounds like a merge error. 16:32 jcamins Definitely merge error. 16:34 jcamins I'm glad you pointed that out. 16:39 jcamins I'm loving the new git-bz. 16:41 jcamins paul_p: I will be travelling on Wednesday. 16:41 paul_p jcamins and ? 16:41 jcamins paul_p: so any bugs you want prioritized for 3.10 should be vigorously plugged today so that they're dealt with tomorrow. 16:42 paul_p jcamins well, today is almost done for me ;-) but my tomorrow morning i'll check ! 16:42 nengard jcamins so i still need a paragraph or a guide or something to document the new admin page 16:43 jcamins nengard: yes, I know. However, I can't do anything that takes more than five minutes at the moment. 16:43 nengard that's fine - a short short something would get me started - i just don't quite get it or i'd do it all by myself 16:44 jcamins I can e-mail you bullet points. 16:44 nengard just don't want the release to go out without at least a section -- yes that would be great!!! 16:48 jcamins Sent. 16:51 nengard you rock 16:51 nengard have a great holiday 16:54 jcamins Out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of Harold Lloyd? Apparently he was a staggeringly popular actor in the... 20s. 16:55 oleonard Yup 16:55 oleonard You hadn't? 16:55 jcamins No. 16:56 oleonard He's the fella hanging off the clock face 16:56 jcamins Huh. Cool. 16:56 oleonard http://www.fandor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/harold-lloyd-in-safety-last.jpg 16:56 jcamins I should see if I can find anything he was in. 16:57 jcamins The Soviets adored him. 16:58 paul_p jcamins = yes, I know harold Lloyd 17:24 jcamins paul_p++ # awesome release notes! 17:24 paul_p jcamins thx 17:26 paul_p jcamins = I hope you'll use this framework for the 3.12 ;-) (it's get_bugs.pl --html -u bzlogin -p bzpassword > edit description-3.10.0.csv > get_bugs > edit description.csv > get_bugs >... > copy-paste to LibreOffice the ENH section, and improve formatting) 17:27 * jcamins plans to. 17:27 cait hiya 17:28 * cait had train the trainer training all day long 17:29 oleonard paul_p: You might have some ideas for bug title guidelines after all that work? 17:29 paul_p oleonard not only bug title (and, in fact, not bug title first. The description is what I worked the most on. from far !) 17:30 paul_p bugzilla description can't be edited, sometimes I took the full description from bugzilla description, sometimes from another comment, sometimes from the patch itself. There was no general rule, and that's why I took 1.5 day just for that !!! 17:38 Kabii jcamins, hey 17:48 moodaepo In 3.6 is editing print.css the best way to change font weight/size for slip/quick slip printouts on checkouts? 18:12 cait moodaepo: yes, I think, in later version you can edit them via the notices module - 3.6 is pretty old now, maybe consider an update 18:12 moodaepo cait: Thanks! 18:17 moodaepo cait: Yup we need to plan an upgrade sometime. Just to clarify I see in 3.8 there is a "HTML message" option for a notice under section "Notices & Slips" I'm guessing we enable that and modify CSS/HTML tags. 18:17 cait i think so 18:18 jcamins But wait, I think there's a problem in 3.8 with HTML slips? 18:20 moodaepo jcamins: This instance is on 3.6 so any problems with HTML slips are absent :) 18:20 cait jcamins: haven't heard about it :( 18:21 jcamins moodaepo: right, but cait suggested upgrading. 18:21 moodaepo jcamins++ 18:21 cait jcamins: are you referring to what i told you about missing sample data? 18:22 jcamins cait: no, there's a bug that I was trying to get you to sign off on. 18:22 jcamins Bug 8378 18:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore 18:23 cait ah 18:23 cait that's nothing to do with html 18:23 cait or slips 18:23 jcamins Oh, okay. :) 18:31 rangi Morning 18:31 wahanui somebody said Morning was a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. 18:34 chris_n g'morning rangi 18:34 * chris_n sets the cat out some food 18:35 cait morning rangi 18:35 chris_n the real problem is the chickens keep chasing the cat off and eating its food 18:35 cait hi chris_n 18:35 cait :) 18:35 chris_n heya cait 18:59 Kabii hey 18:59 Kabii im stuck on the apache it works page 18:59 jcamins Kabii: I'd suggest disabling it: sudo a2dissite default && sudo apache2ctl restart 19:00 jcamins I'd also speculate that the problem is misconfigured DNS. 19:00 Kabii that command is not ont he wikik 19:01 jcamins It's not related to Koha. 19:01 jcamins The wiki does not replace system administration knowledge. 19:25 magnuse wow, awesome release notes 19:25 magnuse paul_p++ 19:25 magnuse the real problem? 19:25 wahanui the real problem is that I can't get search for an ISBN to show up. 19:27 rangi yep those relese notes rule 19:28 magnuse how could anyone not be impressed by that :-) 19:35 cait and with maori :) 19:35 cait and a little french :) 19:36 cait paul_p++ 19:45 wizzyrea oleonard++ - thanks for that patch 19:55 oleonard Sure thing wizzyrea 20:19 jcamins Excellent. The Finnish National Library's website is down. 20:19 wizzyrea erm 20:19 wizzyrea uh oh? 20:19 magnuse ohnoes! 20:20 jcamins Let's hope no one in Finland has any desire to do research! 20:20 oleonard I'm sure that one comes up often at http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ 20:20 rambutan http://www.nationallibrary.fi/ <-works for me 20:21 jcamins Hm. Looks like they changed domains in the last month. 20:21 jcamins It used to be www.lib.helsinki.fi. 20:22 jcamins And by "used to be" I mean "I accessed it at www.lib.helsinki.fi two weeks ago and there was no message about a change." 20:24 rambutan you'd think they would have a redirect... 20:25 jcamins rambutan: you would, wouldn't you? 20:28 oleonard It's a small country. They just shouted it out the window. 20:29 jcamins lol 20:33 oleonard [off] Long enough to see all the MySQL fans are still here. 20:34 jcamins [off] lol 20:34 nengard @later tell paul_p you might want to get bug 9107 pushed to 3.10 20:34 huginn nengard: The operation succeeded. 20:34 jcamins bug 9107 20:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9107 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , DidYouMeanFromAuthorities syspref obsolete 20:34 jcamins Oh, yeah, the one I wrote. 20:34 jcamins Hehe. 20:43 nengard :) didn't want 3.10 going out with a new pref that isn't really a new pref :) 20:49 Kabii i set the admin port in the dns config file 20:49 Kabii \but its not working 20:49 jcamins Kabii: you can't set ports in DNS. 20:50 jcamins Kabii: when we were setting this up originally, didn't we decide to set the staff client up on library-intra.domain.com? 21:00 Kabii no we never talked about that 21:01 Kabii im with kids hold up 21:05 oleonard See you tomorrow #koha 21:06 jcamins Kabii: oh, I got you mixed up with the other person who was just trying to set up Koha on Fedora. 21:12 eythian jcamins: I'm usually reluctant to suggest disabling the default apache config because doing that can conceal issues. 21:14 jcamins eythian: I'm not troubleshooting people's Apache configurations unless they're paying me a great deal more than I get paid for hanging around #koha. I figure "disable your default site and look into the underlying problem with your DNS" is better than "sorry, I'm not your sysadmin." 21:14 jcamins Also, you have to disable the default site if you're only accessing Koha via IP. 21:14 eythian yeah, fair enough. 21:14 eythian that's true, I also don't recommend that except for testing environments :) 21:16 seneca Hello all - quick question: I have a zebra rebuild issue, I think. Symptom is that search results aren't reflecting the actual current status of an item. For example, things that are unavailable are being shown as available and new cover art isn't being displayed. 21:16 seneca Once you click through to the actual item's page, it displays the updated info 21:17 jcamins seneca: definitely sounds like an out of sync Zebra index for the first. 21:17 seneca My cron is set to run "test -x /usr/bin/koha-rebuilt-zebra && koha-rebuild zebra $(koha-list --enabled)" every 5 mins 21:18 jcamins If you are using packages, use `sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full instancename` 21:18 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Open Source Inaccuracies http://t.co/jD4U2cqV #kohails" 21:18 jcamins Uhh, I presume that's a typo just now? 21:18 seneca So my cronjob is missing the --full ? 21:18 seneca yeah, rebuild, not rebuilt :) 21:18 jcamins No, your cronjob is correct. 21:18 jcamins But sometimes indexes get out of sync. 21:19 jcamins By doing a full reindex, you'll get it back in sync. 21:19 seneca ah 21:19 seneca ok, thank you 21:19 Kabii jcamins, im not setting it up via ip 21:20 Kabii im have a domain name to it 21:20 seneca that particular cron line was added by the debian package, so I was a bit hesitant to say there was something wrong with it. :) 21:20 jcamins seneca: no, there's nothing wrong with the cron line. 21:20 seneca you guys are the best - thanks again! 21:20 wizzyrea it just happens sometimes that indexes get out of whack 21:21 jcamins Once the indexes are out of sync, they never get back in sync. 21:21 jcamins Kabii: in that case, you probably need to adjust your DNS and/or the ServerName directives in your virtual hosts. 21:21 seneca understood. I just ran the --full version and will ask the librarian to let me know if things are accurate now and the index is staying in sync. 21:21 Kabii where would that be in the apache 2 config 21:22 seneca By themselves you mean, jcamins? 21:22 wizzyrea right, by themselve 21:22 wizzyrea selves* 21:22 jcamins seneca: right. 21:22 wizzyrea you have to do a full reindex to resync them 21:22 seneca cool 21:22 wizzyrea but it should be happy after that 21:22 wizzyrea ! 21:22 wizzyrea :) 21:22 jcamins Kabii: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha [or whatever you called your instance] 21:22 eythian seneca: it's not too common, but sometimes some things can cause it. 21:23 wizzyrea super heavy server load is one that I've observed causing it 21:23 wizzyrea or a crash 21:24 seneca well, we did a massive manual clean up of the mysql db a couple of weeks ago. Ran "/usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r -v" after it to catch zebra up 21:24 seneca and I think it still may have been out of whack from then 21:24 wizzyrea oh I wonder if you at some point had two rebuild zebras going at the same time 21:25 jcamins Uh-oh. 21:25 seneca hmm.. could be 21:25 jcamins You ran rebuild_zebra.pl manually? 21:25 seneca yeah... I'm taking it that's not the correct thing to do? 21:25 wizzyrea well if you are going to do that 21:25 jcamins Nooooo. 21:25 wizzyrea turn off the cron. 21:25 seneca Pretty sure I got that command from someone on here. 21:25 jcamins Not with packages. 21:25 seneca ah 21:26 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ranginui: "it appears some proprietary vendors are resorting to lies to compete with superior open source offerings #kohails http://t.co/1s7jyEdW" 21:26 seneca that makes sense 21:26 jcamins the koha-rebuild-zebra --full library command is the equivalent for packages. 21:26 seneca ok 21:26 jcamins You may have permissions issues. 21:26 seneca so, should I be ok now after running the "--full" version of that command? 21:27 seneca koha-rebuild-zebra, that is 21:27 jcamins If the permissions weren't screwed up. If they were, that command may have been a no-op. 21:27 seneca I saw no errors... 21:27 jcamins I'm not sure if koha-rebuild-zebra reports any errors in the event of a permissions issue. 21:27 jcamins eythian: any idea? 21:28 eythian I think it tends to. Though I haven't seen them myself, I don't get permissions issues :) 21:28 seneca heheh 21:28 jcamins eythian: nor do I. 21:28 eythian best thing to do is see if it fixed your issues, if it has, great :) 21:28 jcamins But rebuild_zebra.pl doesn't report permissions issues, so I wasn't sure if koha-rebuild-zebra would. 21:28 seneca well ok then 21:29 jcamins ^^ best plan 21:29 seneca What kind of permission errors? File, db, or what? 21:29 jcamins seneca: file permissions. You can end up with the indexes owned by the wrong user. 21:30 seneca ah 21:30 seneca What files, in case I need to fix them. 21:30 jcamins Ummm... /var/lib/koha/instance/* 21:31 jcamins The ownership should be koha-instance:koha-instance, I think. 21:31 seneca looks good, except for "email.enabled" is owned by root 21:31 seneca root:root 21:32 seneca but that's world readable and an empty file... 21:32 jcamins Yeah, that one's okay. 21:33 seneca OK then. I hope the full reindex fixed everything then 21:33 seneca Thanks for the guidance 21:34 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Community, why Open Source is more than just releasing code http://t.co/C4V6lFX9 #kohails" 21:34 wizzyrea ^^ this one is quite good 21:34 jcamins I just read nengard's post on proprietary vendors. 21:35 jcamins Sounds like the sort of thing that might be done by a certain company that shall remain nameless. 21:35 wizzyrea maybe the vendor-who-shall-remain-nameless actually *is* doing that 21:36 * jcamins thinks it seems likely. 21:37 cjh wizzyrea++ 21:37 rambutan [off] all right, out with it. Who? Sirsiously? 21:37 rangi [off] starts with P 21:37 rangi [off] ends with is 21:38 wizzyrea ew! 21:38 jcamins lol 21:38 rambutan P...P...is...ew...Pisew? 21:39 rangi [off] oh yeah some fauxpen source company may actually be doing that 21:39 wizzyrea oh that made me laugh. 21:39 rangi [off] i was just talking about who said it 21:39 jcamins eythian: you haven't e-mailed the package signing key yet, have you? 21:39 eythian jcamins: nope. also doing a migration which is keeping me busy enough. 21:40 eythian just wanted to get that part sorted while I thought of it. 21:40 jcamins Good, 'cause I didn't receive it. :P 21:40 eythian ah, in that case I'll not send it again. 21:41 jcamins Heh. 21:42 * jcamins winces. 21:42 jcamins ohloh things that the number of comments in Koha is "very low." 21:42 eythian WinCE is pretty terrible, yeah 21:42 rangi it's true 21:43 eythian I can believe that 21:43 jcamins *thinks 21:43 rangi its nor bad in the code 21:43 rangi its the SQL 21:43 rangi according to ohloh most of our code is SQL and not commented SQL 21:43 jcamins How is 63% of our code SQL? 21:43 rangi all the .sql files 21:43 eythian I actually consider it low in the code, too. Maybe I'm just a commenting bigot. 21:43 jcamins I guess the stupid frameworks? 21:44 rangi its low in the code, its not very low 21:44 jcamins A fine distinction, that. 21:44 rangi its very low in the sql .. but i dont actually care about that :) 21:44 rangi our pod coverage is actually pretty code 21:44 rangi good 21:44 eythian $ find -name *.sql -print0 | xargs -0 wc -l 21:44 eythian 1077567 totaal 21:45 eythian that's a lot of SQL 21:45 rangi it counts the sql in the files too 21:45 rangi in the .pl 21:45 rangi the ohcount stuff doesnt look at the extensions 21:45 * jcamins would love to get rid of the frameworks. 21:45 rangi it looks in the files 21:45 jcamins Horrid, horrid, horrid. 21:46 rangi (you can clone the ohcount project and play) 21:46 francharb see ya #koha 21:47 magnuse jcamins: let's get rid of marc while we're at it! :-) 21:48 * magnuse wanders off 21:49 jcamins magnuse: that'd be nice too, but it least is serves a function with legacy data. 21:49 jcamins The way we do frameworks does not. 21:49 eythian wahanui: be magnuse is <reply>let's get rid of marc while we're at it! 21:49 wahanui OK, eythian. 21:50 jcamins be jcamins 21:50 wahanui Have some fudge. 21:50 jcamins lol 21:51 jcamins be eythian 21:51 jcamins Hm. 21:51 jcamins be wizzyrea 21:51 jcamins be cait 21:51 jcamins be kf 21:52 jcamins be rangi 21:52 jcamins What, are magnuse and I the only ones who have catchphrases? 21:52 eythian seems like it. 21:53 wizzyrea huh. 21:57 wizzyrea be rangi is <reply>Send a patch! 21:57 * wizzyrea giggles 21:57 wizzyrea be rangi 21:57 wahanui Send a patch! 22:00 rambutan I'm looking forward to Marshall's stats for 2012. 22:01 jcamins They're released for Midwinter? 22:01 jcamins Which, BTW, I could swear only just happened. 22:01 rambutan donno 22:01 rambutan InternetLibrarian just happened 22:02 rambutan and he did present there (w/ Nicole), but I honestly didn 22:02 rambutan 't catch the details 22:14 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Community, why Open Source is more than just releasing code http://t.co/EIfDi7Xd" 22:14 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Open Source Inaccuracies http://t.co/Ec9NRIMU" 22:42 mtj ^^ wow, nicoles tweet/story above is bizarre 22:46 bag heya mtj 22:46 bag it's truth at least what we heard 22:46 * jcamins believes it. 22:46 jcamins Is there a question in that e-mail? 22:46 jcamins Or even a request for anything in particular? 22:46 jcamins Granted I'm tired, but I can't make heads nor tails of it. 22:47 mtj pass… :) 22:49 mtj afaict, its a feature request, asked as a subtle question 22:50 mtj … and hi #koha 22:51 mtj bbiab 22:51 jcamins mtj: I can't even figure out what the desired feature is. 22:51 jcamins She wants... something... sorted alphabetically. 22:52 * jcamins leaves the pondering of this as an exercise for others, and heads home. 22:52 mtj something = "all areas" 22:53 mtj 2 features?, a search tweak - and sorting of bib results 23:01 eythian It's a reply to the facets stuff without actually being a reply. 23:01 eythian Probably from someone on digets. 23:01 eythian *digest 23:26 mtj yeah, i think youre probably correct 23:40 rambutan .