Time  Nick         Message
23:56 mtj          yeah, its a better solution for me that an ssd card
23:56 jcamins      Oh, and tune your MySQL cache way down.
23:55 mtj          hmm, that would work fine
23:55 jcamins      Bonus points for an init script that takes care of that copying whenever your system starts up.
23:54 jcamins      Start up MySQL.
23:54 jcamins      Copy the files from /var/lib/mysql.perm onto said tmpfs.
23:54 jcamins      Mount a tmpfs on /var/lib/mysql.
23:54 jcamins      Rename /var/lib/mysql to /var/lib/mysql.perm
23:54 jcamins      Stop MySQL.
23:54 jcamins      Initialize MySQL with the users and databases that you want (but not the data).
23:53 jcamins      mtj: know what I'd do, if you're running ephemeral tests?
23:51 jcamins      mtj: depending on your application, obviously.
23:50 mtj          running DBs on SSDs is a bad thing, coz they are too write-heavy?
23:50 jcamins      mtj: if you want faster performance, add more RAM, and use an in-memory file system.
23:50 jcamins      mtj: my understanding is that it's generally a bad idea because it writes so much data to disk.
23:47 mtj          and ive heard there are some SSDs to avoid completely
23:42 mtj          but yeah, ive heard they dont last too long
23:40 mtj          to speed up the tedium of database loads when testing, etc….
23:40 trea         well in that case
23:39 mtj          at this stage, i just want a cheap/small one for koha testing
23:38 trea         not sure. i would guess your write endurance on flash wouldn't tolerate any long term db fitness
23:37 mtj          … are they any good? much faster that disks?  or not really worth the effort/cost?
23:34 mtj          hi folks, a random Q… has anyone experimented with using databases running fom SSD cards?
23:20 jcamins      I actually don't know if OpenOffice would even meet my needs.
23:20 jcamins      libreoffice++
23:20 jcamins      Good point.
23:20 jcamins      Actually, I'm using libreoffice.
23:17 druthb       libreoffice++
23:17 maximep      libreoffice++
23:17 maximep      pfffff
23:16 jcamins      openoffice++
23:09 jcamins      Hm.
23:09 huginn       jcamins: Karma for "C4::Search" has been increased 0 times and decreased 31 times for a total karma of -31.
23:09 jcamins      @karma C4::Search
23:09 huginn       jcamins: Karma for "latex" has been increased 0 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of -2.
23:09 jcamins      @karma latex
23:09 jcamins      latex--
22:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8968 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , JavaScript String not translatable
22:52 jenkins_koha f.demians: Bug 8968 "Add to cart" translatable on OPAC result page
22:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #227: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/227/
22:46 Manderson    Any use of SIP services?
22:45 chobbs       Manderson:  Nope, there wasn't anything useful in any of hte logs. The error logs mirrored what was reported in the browser.
22:44 Manderson    aside from what you mentioned before?
22:44 Manderson    chobbes - is there any output in your koha-error_log or koha-opac-error_log files relating to the issue?
22:37 * jcamins    wishes that LaTeX weren't a disaster.
22:36 chobbs       jcamins:  Yeah, I agree. I'll have it in my mind the next time I reboot the box, if it goes wonky again.
22:36 * chobbs     wishes X-Chat Aqua put timestamps on chats...
22:35 jcamins      chobbs: if it's working now it was just memcached and there's no point in trying to troubleshoot it.
22:34 chobbs       Manderson:  Negative. localhost and eth0 is all.
22:27 huginn       jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7602 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , Spent and Ordered pages require full acquisition permissions
22:27 huginn       jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5539 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Options for Suggestion Emails
22:27 huginn       jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4960 normal, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , No way to enter custom purchase order number
22:27 huginn       jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4171 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , overduerules.pl needs an overhaul
22:27 huginn       jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4800 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Disable book cover image in the title view if the feature is on in the OPAC.
22:27 jcamins      @query enhanced
22:27 jcamins      xelatex--
22:27 jcamins      pdflatex--
22:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #227 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:09 jcamins      There's no Koha-specific configuration.
22:09 jcamins      Pretty easy to set up.
22:09 jcamins      mib_zom5b5: in case you didn't realize, those links were for you.
22:08 * jcamins    curses
22:08 Manderson    *multi-homed*
22:08 Manderson    chobbs: Is your machine multihimed?
22:07 wahanui      postfix is, like, found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix (but you probably can skip the SASL stuff) or at http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html
22:07 jcamins      postfix?
22:07 mib_zom5b5   Hi, can anyone help me set up postfix for koha? I've not succesfully done email capabilities before.
22:04 jcamins      Freaking LaTeX. That is the only package I know which is centered around language which doesn't support UTF-8 or fonts in any usable way.
21:58 * magnuse    knows a library that lends swords
21:57 magnuse      woo, cool eclipse!
21:55 jcamins      If I had a sword, I would've stabbed my laptop by now.
21:55 jcamins      It's a good thing I don't have a sword.
21:50 * jcamins    hurls imprecations at LaTeX.
21:50 jcamins      Cool!
21:49 rangi        15 mins ago
21:49 rangi        this just happened
21:49 rangi        http://f.dollyfish.net.nz/6fda33
21:49 francharb    see ya all
21:47 chobbs       bizarre. It's working now, and I'm keeping an eye on memcached now? it's magic, as far as I'm concerened. black magic.
21:46 jcamins      texlive--
21:46 jcamins      latex--
21:45 jcamins      chobbs: you must've had an IP address cached.
21:44 chobbs       Started it back up and it still works. I love technology...
21:42 chobbs       just shut down memcached and my search works.
21:42 chobbs       hello, memcached :/
21:41 jcamins      That is correct.
21:40 chobbs       I would assume parton lookups would e just dealing with mysql and apache; zebra doesn't even come into the mix here, right?
21:39 jcamins      That is weird.
21:39 chobbs       Bizarre. This problem seems isolated to anything involving patrons look-ups. Cataloging, SQL reports, everything else works just fine. But if I try to find a patron, or pull one up for circulation, it fails.
21:37 mib_zom5b5   I do wish to use email actually.. so postfix you say.
21:36 jcamins      (but I don't support it)
21:36 jcamins      I recommend postfix.
21:36 jcamins      Oh, if you aren't using e-mail then you don't need to do that.
21:36 mib_zom5b5   I have never used koha email - could never get it to work with nullmailer .. but will look into it now.
21:35 mib_zom5b5   Thanks.
21:35 jcamins      I believe you have to enable e-mail with koha-enable-email instance
21:35 jcamins      Yes.
21:35 mib_zom5b5   Hi, just a quick question with the koha packages install - i am used to the tarbal.. will overdues be run automatically. I checked under cron.d cron.daily etc. it seems its set to run automatically. is this correct?
21:34 jcamins      Very.
21:32 chobbs       strange that other parts of Koha are working just fine.
21:31 jcamins      Almost certainly if you are having problems with it you have a much bigger problem than Koha.
21:31 jcamins      pack_sockaddr_in is used to translate IP addresses for use by stdc.
21:31 chobbs       nested dependencies/libraries are so much fun :)
21:30 jcamins      Koha doesn't use Socket directly either, most likely.
21:30 chobbs       :)
21:30 chobbs       bummer :0
21:30 jcamins      chobbs: not a clue.
21:30 chobbs       jcamins:  any idea where pack_sockaddr_in is getting called in Koha's code? It didn't turn up in a grep, so I assume it's actually being called by another function from the Socket module that Koha is actually using.
21:19 chobbs       Manderson:  When you said "Could it be that it's binding to the wrong IP address", which 'it' did you mean? What is potentially binding to the loopback?
21:16 oleonard     Later #koha
21:00 Jurgens      I really expected the sites-enabled/library to work.. i suspect the reason could be that I mistakenly did not save.. i am just guessing here.. regardless thanks for the help jcamins. hi 5
20:58 jcamins      :)
20:58 jcamins      Well, as long as it works.
20:58 Jurgens      i did try that too...
20:57 jcamins      Jurgens: in order to change it post-installation you must edit the file in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library
20:57 Jurgens      now off to watch the rest of the eclipse :)
20:57 Jurgens      so i just reinstalled koha from packages and what i did differently was during the DNS configuration the wiki page used port 80 for both intraport and opac port. now i changed this to 8080 and 80 respectivley. I did try and change this post installation, but did not seem to take effect even with restart. But setting this right during installation seemed fine.
20:18 jcamins      If you say exactly what I said "you must configure your local DNS..." s/he should be able to take care of it for you.
20:18 jcamins      That's how I do it.
20:18 jcamins      Talk to your network administrator.
20:18 jcamins      If you want to just use ports, you can edit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library and change the port the staff client is listening on to 8080
20:17 Jurgens      how do i do that?
20:17 jcamins      Since you are using host names and not ports, you must configure your local DNS to resolve library.apqgi.org and library-intra.apqgi.org to your Koha server.
20:16 jcamins      *host names
20:16 jcamins      Jurgens: because you have it configured to use DNS.
20:16 Jurgens      so why is it effectivley using 10.1.1.4:80 for opac on the other machine?
20:16 jcamins      Jurgens: of course not. You can't mix and match DNS and ports differently on different computers.
20:16 Jurgens      these addresses do no work on the other pc. I've got a local IP set up 10.1.1.4. however i see that it uses the domain name of koha:80 for staff client, this is fine on the other pc, but koha:8080 doesnt give me staff client.. so am a little confused I thought it should just use library-intra.apqgi.org for staff and library.apqgi.org for opac.
20:15 jcamins      Jurgens: still sounds like DNS to me.
20:14 Jurgens      i found that if i use the address library.apqgi.org on the koha machine, it works fine for OPAC and library-intra.apqgi.co.nz is fine for Staff Client on koha machine.
20:14 oleonard     rebazkoya: Follow that link to the manual if you need to
20:14 wahanui      somebody said manual was at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
20:14 oleonard     manual?
20:14 jcamins      Jurgens: you might need to edit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/[libraryname]
20:14 oleonard     Koha administration -> Circulation and fine rules
20:13 rebazkoya    where can I do it , please?
20:12 oleonard     rebazkoya: have you set up a default circulation rule for all patrons and all branches?
20:12 Jurgens      and I have ports set to listen to both 80 and 8080
20:12 jcamins      Jurgens: in that case you'll need to set it up so that both DNS entries resolve to the same server.
20:12 rebazkoya    hi , I want to place hold a book in koha but i have a trouble that it say " Too Many Holds: User has too many holds. No copies are available to be placed on hold ... please how to solve ?
20:11 Jurgens      so during installation i did set up the DNS stuff through edit /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf
20:11 jcamins      Jurgens: if you want to use different ports, you just have to tell Apache to listen on the other port.
20:08 jcamins      Manderson: possibly. I'm not really a networking expert.
20:07 jcamins      Jurgens: you'll need to set up DNS.
20:07 Manderson    jcamins: for chobbs' issue, calls to Socket::pack_sockaddr_in require two parameters, $port and $ip_address. Could it be that it's binding to the wrong IP address (127.0.0.1) and cannot open that port on that IP address? Might not be running with the required privilieges to get IP address information.
20:07 Jurgens      hi. I moved from the tarball 3.8 to packages 3.8. Worked fantastic. However, i had a LAN network, followed the packages installation to recreate a LAN but now seem only able to access the OPAC through firefox on the other PC but not the staff client. Can anyone point me in the right direction please.
20:03 chobbs       ugh, no joy. I'll do some more snooping aorund name resolution
20:01 chobbs       jcamins:  checking now, looks like I had the temp name still in /etc/hosts - rebooting now to see if it goes away
20:00 jcamins      chobbs: I'm not sure exactly what the problem is, but Google suggests that it's probably DNS-related.
19:59 jcamins      chobbs: DNS.
19:58 chobbs       I did an upgrade after the problem appeared, just to  make sure it wasn't anything out of date. The system is a fresh build that I brought up 4 weeks ago, using a copy of our database from an older version. It's been working brilliantly since we stood it up.
19:57 Manderson    Upgrades? Other perl development happening on the system?
19:56 chobbs       Manderson:  shouldn't have been any changes. we shut down for a planned power outage in our data canter. fired it back up this morning.
19:55 Manderson    chobbs: what changed on your system?
19:54 chobbs       well, it wasn't sessions (too bad, that was the easy one) :)
19:54 lms1         Thanks to all
19:54 jcamins      If that's the issue, I have no clue what to do.
19:54 jcamins      2) you have half your data coming off the IPv6 interface, the other half coming off IPv4?
19:53 Manderson    lms1: Hooray!
19:53 jcamins      If that's the issue, truncate the sessions table.
19:53 jcamins      1) a sessions problem.
19:53 lms1         :)
19:53 lms1         Problem solve
19:53 jcamins      I have two thoughts.
19:53 jcamins      chobbs: ouch. I have no idea what that could be.
19:52 chobbs       running ubuntu packaged koha on up-to-date 12.04, if that helps.
19:51 chobbs       Hi all. I restarted my koha server today, and am now getting "Bad arg length for Socket::pack_sockaddr_in" for, it seems, any page that involves patrons. Straight cataloging and searching doesn't seem to be affected. any ideas?
19:50 lms1         Ok,  thanks, I'm gonna try
19:49 Manderson    PATH=${PATH}:/usr/local/bin; ./rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v -v -v
19:49 Manderson    Perhaps, if zebraidx is installed at /usr/local/bin, run it as so:
19:48 jcamins      lms1: try editing the rebuild_zebra script to have the full path to zebraidx.
19:48 jcamins      Yeah, I think so.
19:48 Manderson    rebuild_zebra.pl can't find zebraidx
19:48 Manderson    It sounds like the same problem I had
19:48 jcamins      Ummm...
19:47 pastebot     "lms1" at 10.10.20.57 pasted "./rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v -v -v" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/271
19:46 Manderson    Even when rebuild_zebra.pl is run from teh command line (not cron)
19:46 lms1         ok
19:46 jcamins      (notice the three -v arguments)
19:46 jcamins      lms1: run rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v -v -v
19:45 jcamins      Manderson: indexing isn't happening.
19:45 Manderson    What's CentOS doing/not doing?
19:45 lms1         The configuration files are correct in my case
19:44 jcamins      The plot thickens!
19:44 Manderson    the symlinked everything to /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/lib respectively
19:44 jcamins      Hm.
19:44 jcamins      Oh.
19:44 Manderson    I compiled Yaz and Zebra and installed them to /data0/koha/support/
19:44 Manderson    sorry, Koha in the standard location
19:44 jcamins      (hence the need to change rebuild_zebra)
19:44 Manderson    No
19:43 Manderson    Yes
19:43 jcamins      Ohhh, you installed Zebra in the standard location, didn't you?
19:43 Manderson    Just used what the koha installer put together.
19:43 Manderson    jcamins: the configuration files were untouched for zebra on my end.
19:42 Manderson    I edited rebuild_zebra.pl to give a full path and it works like a charm
19:42 Manderson    On Redhat, rebuild_zebra.pl couldn't find zebraidx as a cron job - /usr/local/bin isn't in the default PATH
19:41 jcamins      Manderson: we're just troubleshooting a Zebra problem on CentOS. Do you recall which Zebra configuration files you had to edit?
19:41 Manderson    Hi all
19:35 lms1         Ok,  thanks, I'm gonna check
19:33 jcamins      (it'll be something like /usr/share/zebra, I think)
19:33 jcamins      You'll need to look at the files in /srv/koha/etc/zebradb, and make sure that wherever they say Zebra is is, in fact, where Zebra is.
19:33 lms1         and I have this directory: /srv/koha/etc/zebradb
19:32 jcamins      The path to Zebra is hardcoded in all the config files too.
19:32 lms1         All my configuration files: /srv/koha/etc
19:32 lms1         Well, it's a very good question... let me see
19:28 jcamins      Did you change the paths in all the Zebra configuration files?
19:28 lms1         yes, CentOS 6
19:28 jcamins      Okay.
19:28 lms1         in the intranet, I use the Cataloging search bar
19:27 jcamins      CentOS 6?
19:27 jcamins      How do you search for the record?
19:27 lms1         yes :)
19:27 jcamins      I was close.
19:27 lms1         CentOS
19:27 lms1         I just insert one record, and when I search for this record I got this error
19:27 jcamins      On Fedora?
19:26 lms1         It's a new instalation
19:25 jcamins      And most importantly, how are you searching?
19:24 jcamins      Did you change something before it stopped working?
19:24 jcamins      Error code 109 is definitely database unavailable.
19:22 lms1         koha: 3.08.06.000
19:21 jcamins      What version of Koha is this?
19:21 lms1         Yes, the same error
19:19 jcamins      After rebuilding Zebra and trying the search again, do you still get error 109?
19:18 jcamins      Just wanted to check.
19:18 lms1         I'm Portuguese, I have to use UNIMARC
19:17 lms1         yes
19:17 jcamins      You're using UNIMARC, right?
19:17 jcamins      That all looks correct to me.
19:16 pastebot     "lms1" at 10.10.20.57 pasted "rebuild_zebra.pl" (28 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/270
19:16 lms1         Exporting biblio returns 1 but REINDEXING zebra is empty
19:15 jcamins      rebuild_zebra.pl -b -v -r
19:15 jcamins      You need to use -r
19:15 lms1         I used this command: ./rebuild_zebra.pl -b -v
19:14 jcamins      Error 109 means "no such database."
19:14 jcamins      lms1: did you reindex?
19:13 jcamins      chris_n: RPN = Zebra's internal representation of PQF.
19:13 jcamins      However, thanks, that's what I needed.
19:12 lms1         ok
19:12 * chris_n    wonders if zebra really does reverse-polish-notation or if that some sort of query language
19:12 jcamins      You can use paste.koha-community.org in the future.
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [debug] mf_close(recdB)
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [debug] mf_close(recdA)
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [debug] mf_close(reci)
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [debug] mf_close(isambD)
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [debug] mf_close(isambC)
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [debug] mf_close(isambB)
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [debug] mf_close(isambA)
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [debug] isamb_close returned 0 values, skipped 0
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [debug] mf_close(dict)
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [debug] zebra_register_close p=0xc36ab0
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [debug] zebra_close zh=0xc3e070
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [debug] ir_session (input)
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [session] Connection closed by client
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [debug] ir_session (input)
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [debug] Wrote PDU, 42 bytes
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [debug] ir_session (output)
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [debug]   result immediately available
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [request] Search biblios ERROR 109 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @attr 1=1016 @attr 4=6 @attr 5=1 vida
19:12 lms1         19:04:07-13/11 zebrasrv(10) [debug] rpn_search_APT
19:11 jcamins      lms1: what is the rest of the message?
19:09 lms1         anyone know this error?
19:09 lms1         Search biblios ERROR 109 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @attr 1=1016 @attr 4=6 @attr 5=1
19:09 lms1         Hello, when a search for some item my zebra log returns this error:
19:02 rangi        Right wellylibfast bbl
18:43 * rangi      comments on a bug to try to prevent losing yet another feature
18:32 cait         morning
18:32 wahanui      somebody said morning was a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
18:32 jcamins      Morning.
18:32 wahanui      Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
18:32 rangi        Morning
17:16 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8968 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , JavaScript String not translatable
17:16 jenkins_koha f.demians: Bug 8968 "Add to cart" translatable on OPAC result page
17:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #943: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/943/
17:07 jcamins      Doesn't look like it did.
17:07 drojf        meh
17:05 cait         hola drojf
17:03 drojf        hola cait
16:54 drojf        i hope that helps
16:54 drojf        :)
16:53 * jcamins    throws drojf the duct tape.
16:41 reiveune     bye
16:22 magnuse      jcamins: my pleasure!
16:21 jcamins      magnuse: thanks!
16:20 magnuse      it sure is :-)
16:20 wahanui      well, signed off is the queue the QA team should watch
16:20 magnuse      jcamins: signed off
16:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #943 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:07 magnuse      success! \o/
16:07 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7500 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
16:07 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6428 blocker, P2, ---, nunyo, Pushed to Master , refered column 'items.coded_location_qualifier' does not exist
16:07 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7500 [Lists follow-up] Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
16:07 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 6428 follow-up: Increment version number
16:07 jenkins_koha * nunyo: Bug 6428 [Follow-up] refered column 'items.coded_location_qualifier' does not exist
16:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #942: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/942/
16:06 * magnuse    is impressed :-)
16:06 jcamins      magnuse: patch attached.
15:59 kf           about my earlier question: merging both records will take care of attached orders too :)
15:56 jcamins      I don't see why, though.
15:55 jcamins      It turns out it's to do with GetAuthType not actually working anymore.
15:54 magnuse      w00t, sort of
15:54 jcamins      Sort of.
15:54 jcamins      Okay, I see what the problem is.
15:53 magnuse      that's the least i could do :-)
15:46 jcamins      Thanks.
15:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9070 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Searching for authority from tag editor for field 650 gives error
15:46 magnuse      jcamins: bug 9070
15:43 magnuse      will do
15:43 magnuse      cool
15:42 jcamins      If you report a bug, I'll fix it.
15:42 jcamins      I see it.
15:42 jcamins      Yes.
15:41 jcamins      I'll try, though.
15:41 magnuse      the typeahead in the tag edit suggests "common cold", but when i do a search for it i get the error
15:41 jcamins      I haven't.
15:41 magnuse      anyone else seen that?
15:40 magnuse      hm searching for autorities in "Home › Authorities" works fine but doing the same search in the tag editor for the 650 field (marc21) gives this error: Can't use string ("HASH(0xbc6c{30)") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm line 363.
15:40 jcamins      Oy. A whole lot has been pushed since I released 3.6.10.
15:31 libsysguy    for large date ranges
15:31 libsysguy    which in some cases could cause a crash
15:30 libsysguy    it loads every holiday in the system into the object
15:30 libsysguy    first we should kill the way that Calendar.pm runs the init function
15:30 tcohen       :-D
15:30 libsysguy    its like slap happy comical
15:30 tcohen       we'll figure it out
15:30 libsysguy    :(
15:29 libsysguy    I know they don't
15:29 kf           not sure the libraries would agree:(
15:29 libsysguy    i think the calendar issue is almost comical at this point
15:29 tcohen       and found that setting a single day as holiday was broken
15:28 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8800 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , SpecifyDueDate && useDaysMode=Datedue wrong behaviour
15:28 tcohen       i was doing some testing for bug 8800
15:28 libsysguy    oh well yes that is a problem
15:28 libsysguy    and yes the way Calendar.pm _init works is kind of foobar
15:28 tcohen       is_holiday returns 0 where it shouldnt
15:27 libsysguy    what is it that you are trying to do
15:27 tcohen       i'll dig a bit more
15:27 tcohen       so, is_holiday is kind of broken (or _init)
15:25 libsysguy    tcohen yes
15:24 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase improvements
15:24 jcamins      chris_n: I was thinking maybe we could make use of the installer utility functions in bug 7167.
15:24 jcamins      chris_n: yeah, we did.
15:23 * chris_n    needs to upgrade to 16G himself
15:23 chris_n      I seem to be recalling some discussion of this in the past
15:23 tcohen       for setting exceptions to repeteable holidays?
15:23 * chris_n    will look at it
15:22 jcamins      Better to use add_syspref.
15:22 tcohen       yes, but what is it used for?
15:22 jcamins      We decided no INSERT IGNORE.
15:22 libsysguy    its an exception to a holiday
15:22 libsysguy    isexception is in the db
15:22 jcamins      Right.
15:22 chris_n      INSERT IGNORE
15:22 libsysguy    tcohen, real quick
15:22 chris_n      jcamins: our conversation yesterday :)
15:22 jcamins      tcohen: libsysguy would be able to tell you, but he just left.
15:22 jcamins      Uh-oh. Did something happen to it?
15:22 tcohen       WTF does 'isexception' stand for? (holidays/calendar context)
15:22 chris_n      ok, fixing updatedatabase.pl
15:22 * jcamins    sighs mightily at the reminder that he hates his carpet.
15:21 chris_n      red carpet?
15:21 jcamins      Carpet installers...
15:21 libsysguy    bbiab carpet installers are here
15:21 jcamins      I find I have to restart Chrome every few weeks.
15:21 libsysguy    heh yeah thats the tradeoff
15:21 * chris_n    tends to run a zillion tabs which plays havoc with chrome as well
15:21 libsysguy    I always thought that was an interesting description
15:20 libsysguy    heh
15:20 * jcamins    likes the "dual-quad..." part of the description.
15:20 libsysguy    chrome ftw
15:20 chris_n      indeed
15:20 * libsysguy  thinks you should up it to at least 16GB
15:20 chris_n      now if I could just convince FF not to hog up all the memory....
15:19 chris_n      currently has 4GB ram, but will handle 32 iirc
15:19 chris_n      actually its a complete precision 490
15:18 libsysguy    just an old server laying around?
15:18 libsysguy    that is cheap, what did you drop it in?
15:18 chris_n      pretty cheap horse-power
15:17 chris_n      I recently picked up a dell precision dual-quad core xeon for <$300 to use for dev projects
15:17 chris_n      lol
15:17 libsysguy    then just move the files over via fiber ;)
15:16 libsysguy    guess that means we can set up that mega box on AWS for indexing
15:14 chris_n      paul_p++
15:14 * chris_n    is pleasently surprised to find zebra reindexing screams on 8 cores as compared to 2
15:10 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Santa Fe Indian School Goes Live on Koha with ByWater Solutions http://t.co/xYDswy4e #kohails"
15:06 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8968 "Add to cart" translatable on OPAC result page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a7ff2a2e4d6deaf63922dd5568f466e878923b67>
15:03 jcamins      Okay, master is up-to-date.
14:59 jcamins      Try it on your test server first?
14:59 jcamins      I'm not sure, though.
14:59 jcamins      I think if you move the item it will update acquisitions.
14:59 kf           hm, better not.
14:59 kf           or I could be evil and do it on database level.. I guess
14:59 kf           and I could merge the records... but again not sure about acq
14:58 kf           so I could move the item... but not sure it will update acq
14:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #942 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:58 kf           ok, someone here an idea about the best way to merge 2 records? each have an order attached to it and that is the complicated part I think
14:58 * magnuse    waves to kf
14:57 * kf         waves too
14:56 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7500 [Lists follow-up] Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b1050579734515d29b4fdcb9e3e4cd1aeb9fece> / Merge branch 'bug_6428' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=765cebfbeb0af34747622de2200ed6de337a7ed9> / Bug 6428 follow-up: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=comm
14:50 * magnuse    too, after taking a look at the clock
14:49 * oleonard   hopes wizzyrea isn't really awake
14:49 * magnuse    waves to wizzyrea
14:42 jcamins      paul_p: cool!
14:41 paul_p       jcamins / chris_n = 4 more patches pushed to release-tools
14:35 magnuse      yay
14:35 jcamins      I'll take a look.
14:35 jcamins      Thanks.
14:34 magnuse      jcamins: this one, in fact: http://marc21.testing.bibkat.no:8080/ login with demo / demo if you feel like testing
14:34 magnuse      jcamins: it was a marc21 setup
14:07 drojf        hi kf :)
14:06 kf           hi drojf
14:04 drojf        hi #koha
13:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9066 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , VirtualShelves database access not Plack + MariaDB compatible
13:57 jcamins      The "Wait a minute" was about bug 9066.
13:57 jcamins      Yep.
13:57 kf           jcamins: I only talked briefly to him in the morning - it's all in the logs
13:54 jcamins      Wait a minute.
13:51 jcamins      So there must be two different ways to get there.
13:50 jcamins      I just imported authorities and the controls were hidden appropriately.
13:50 jcamins      Thanks.
13:50 kf           jcamins: when I asked he said he was testing with marc21 :)
13:48 jcamins      Maybe not.
13:48 jcamins      Hm.
13:46 jcamins      khall: I'm pretty sure it does. If you give me a few minutes, I'll try and figure out what that script is.
13:45 jcamins      magnuse: did you get the weird import display with NORMARC or MARC21?
13:45 khall        quick question, does koha have any scripts that will update the MARC blob from the database values? That is, we change something in the database, and run a script that updates marcxml with the new value from the db.
13:40 tcohen       we actually convert it into a duration object if we detect it is not a duration object...
13:39 tcohen       when used in addDate
13:39 tcohen       it bothers me that we create a duration on calcdatedue, to just extract the amount of days to iterate over it
13:38 tcohen       do u think the Calendar API should should use duration objects for addDate?
13:36 libsysguy    okay tcohen whats up
13:35 oleonard     mtj awake?
13:26 libsysguy    one sec tcohen
13:25 tcohen       hi libsysguy, d u have a minute?
13:23 oleonard     Hi #koha
13:11 kf           we don't have that in production
13:11 kf           nope
13:04 libsysguy    kf have you seen any weirdness with fines in 3.8.5?
13:03 libsysguy    heh
13:02 kf           libsysguy: yep.
12:17 libsysguy    blargh fines are a pain in the arse
11:49 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @YvesTomic: "Si le nom du SIGB Koha provient d'un mot māori qui signifie don, il faut savoir aussi que koha signifie "le temps" en albanais. #kohails"
08:59 magnuse      not that i have seen, but i'm still investigating
08:58 kf           hm any error?
08:58 magnuse      also, i tried downloading an authority in xml format from viaf, then converting it to iso2709 with yaz-marcdump, but i can't seem to be able to import that
08:56 magnuse      will do
08:56 magnuse      hehe
08:56 kf           and you already got a pretty screenshot :)
08:56 kf           and should not be too hard to do
08:56 kf           magnuse: I would still file a bug - I think hiding the fields would make it less confusing
08:55 magnuse      i managed to import a file that jcamins provided as an example on another bug, so the problem might be purely cosmetic
08:55 magnuse      :-)
08:54 kf           nice, I would like some white in the current color scheme
08:53 * magnuse    had a sprinkling of snow over night
08:52 kf           today no rain...
08:52 kf           we had 2 days of grey with rain
08:51 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (9:20 AM CET on November 13, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
08:51 magnuse      @wunder boo
08:51 huginn       kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.0°C (9:50 AM CET on November 13, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady).
08:51 kf           @wunder Konstanz
08:51 wahanui      kf: I forgot looks like it
08:51 kf           forget looks like it
08:50 wahanui      somebody said looks like it was a replicate of /usr/share/koha/misc
08:50 magnuse      looks like it
08:50 kf           maybe needs some refining
08:50 magnuse      kf: yes
08:50 magnuse      kf: nope, i'm testing with a marc21 setup
08:50 kf           and the pull down is bibliographic frameworks?
08:50 kf           aah
08:50 magnuse      http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/stage_auth.png
08:50 kf           magnuse: maybe it's something with normarc?
08:49 kf           I didn't test it, only know some screenshots
08:49 rangi        ah right
08:49 kf           rangi: it's a new feature jared did
08:49 rangi        that must have come in 3.8 ? or master?
08:48 magnuse      but then it gets confused on the next screen
08:48 magnuse      yeah, after the upload you can choose bibliographic or authority
08:47 rangi        i always use bulkmarcimport -a
08:47 rangi        are you supposed to be able to import authority records through it?
08:47 kf           magnuse: oh?
08:46 magnuse      hm, "Stage MARC for import" seems to be confused by authority records...
08:23 kf           hi matts :)
08:18 matts        hi !
08:01 lds          hello
08:00 wahanui      hola, reiveune
08:00 reiveune     hello
07:46 alex_a       bonjour
07:43 magnuse      kia ora paul_p!
07:42 paul_p       good morning everybody
07:42 magnuse      :-)
07:42 huginn       magnuse: Not yet - wait 9 days
07:42 magnuse      @arewethereyet
07:29 magnuse      ah, that would explain it :-/
07:28 rangi        im pretty sure jsut iso2709
07:27 magnuse      i forget: should "Stage MARC records for import" be able to handle marcxml records, or just iso2709?
07:27 magnuse      hiya rangi
07:26 rangi        hi magnuse
07:21 magnuse      kia ora #koha!
06:40 francharb    0/ rangi
06:29 rangi        hi francharb
06:13 francharb    good morning #koha
06:05 rangi        But now I'm going to eat
06:04 rangi        3.4.0 is really old, and we will need a lot more information and a lot less z before we could help
05:41 TISLibrarian plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz help me, koha 3.4.0 is driven me crazy
05:40 TISLibrarian hello everyone
05:04 * Oak        waves
04:26 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9033 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Wide character error in runreport.pl
04:26 mtj          … like bug 9033, should i flick this back to 'in discussion'?
04:25 mtj          heres a random bugzilla idea… how about a 'needs a test plan' status?
04:12 mtj          c'mon, its not *that* obscure… is it?
04:10 wahanui      okay, eythian.
04:10 eythian      no wahanui, eythian is great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem.
04:10 rangi        :)
04:10 rangi        eythian isn't good at jokes
04:10 mtj          ... then smile at teh lam3ness
04:09 eythian      but tweeting is a thing birds do ..?
04:09 mtj          so, imagine that its a tweet… and that its sposed to be a joke :)
04:08 mtj          ahh yep - i can see how that might have caused confusion for you
04:07 eythian      but # indicates an IRC channel name...
04:06 mtj          and the #hashtag thingies, and stuff
04:06 mtj          so, i was sorta joking that it was a twitter retweet, with the 'rt' prefix and stuff
04:05 huginn       mtj: I suck
04:05 mtj          @ denotes a user, on twitter
04:03 eythian      mtj: my nickname is not a domain name ... ?
04:03 mtj          RT @eythian++ #kohails #niceidea
03:22 eythian      I think from now, every script that produces something e.g. an SQL file will put the invocation of the command into comments at the top of the file. Getting tired of re-creating command lines I should have documented in the first place, when all I have is the output.
03:12 eythian      http://tranquillpoet.com/ <-- an IDE for poets
02:25 wizzyrea     \o/
02:24 jcamins      Woohoo!
02:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9039 major, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Master , Tests in the basic test suite should only test code based on required dependencies/modules
02:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9050 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , rebuild_zebra should use the adelete action so it doesn't fail when deleting a record not in the index
02:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8945 major, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , Koha 3.10 Help Files Update
02:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8892 major, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Plack variable scoping in basket.pl
02:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9054 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , 00-load should not try to load modules with optional dependencies
02:23 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 9039 - Tests in the basic test suite should only test code based on required dependencies/modules
02:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9036 critical, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Master , 00-load.t checks Koha::Cache::Memcached when it should not
02:23 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9050: Use safer adelete when deleting records from Zebra index
02:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7119 critical, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , general code-cleaning, tidy/whitespace omnibus
02:23 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Add missing acq help file
02:23 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8892 fix Plack scoping in acquisition
02:23 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9054: 00-load should not try to load modules with optional dependencies
02:23 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 9036 - 00-load.t checks Koha::Cache::Memcached when it should not this patch adds code to skip this module during this test
02:23 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 7119 - tidy t/00-load.t
02:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #941: SUCCESS in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/941/
01:47 * druthb     pokes jcamins, since jenkins cannot defend itself.
01:46 * jcamins    pokes jenkins impatiently.
01:46 druthb       Hi, magnuse. :)
01:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #941 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
01:10 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9039' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b8a750ee2646bbf72767c49c6e96ee48c753918> / Bug 9039 - Tests in the basic test suite should only test code based on required... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f65d046591ecc2d07a4dd1e1aa2711e73a10e85> / Merge branch 'bug_9050' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko
00:13 jcamins      Oh good lord.
00:11 jcamins      Nope. Not one I pushed.
00:10 jcamins      I don't think I touched that patch.
00:09 jcamins      A distant bell.
00:09 jcamins      This rings a bell.
00:09 jcamins      ccode in stats...
00:09 jcamins      But the fact that a field is missing isn't MariaDB-specific.
00:08 jcamins      Yes I am.
00:08 jcamins      I was just trying to check in a book.
00:08 wizzyrea     ohh are you on mariadb now?
00:07 jcamins      However, that's not what I was doing at the moment.
00:07 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8800 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , SpecifyDueDate && useDaysMode=Datedue wrong behaviour
00:07 jcamins      I was going to test bug 8800.
00:07 wizzyrea     are you testing a bug?
00:07 wizzyrea     on master
00:07 wizzyrea     well, I was just able to circ a book
00:07 jcamins      Not quite as bad.
00:07 jcamins      It's in Stats.
00:07 jcamins      Oh, wait.
00:06 jcamins      I'm getting an "unknown column in field list" error now that I made all SQL errors fatal.
00:06 wizzyrea     let me check 1s
00:06 wizzyrea     OY!\
00:05 jcamins      Check-in.
00:05 jcamins      I think circ is broken.
00:05 jcamins      Nooo.
00:05 wizzyrea     that's not a good sign
00:04 jcamins      oh dear.'
00:04 jcamins      Well...
00:04 wizzyrea     nice work in a month by the way, koha looks really nice :)
00:04 wizzyrea     yep, that's it
00:04 jcamins      If it doesn't work, we'll know that I got it wrong.
00:04 jcamins      I'm trying it.
00:04 jcamins      I think that's right.
00:03 wizzyrea     ummm one sec
00:01 jcamins      Tools->Calendar?
00:01 jcamins      Where are they configured?
00:01 jcamins      holidays.
00:01 jcamins      Okay...
00:00 jcamins      The markup is just staggering. As far as I can tell, every li has its own ul, and they're all nested.