Time  Nick           Message
23:58 wizzyrea       yep
23:58 wizzyrea       ^^
23:48 jcamins        We need to find a better way to generate the help files, don't we?
23:48 jcamins        Ugh.
22:19 wahanui        it has been said that patch workflow is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow
22:19 eythian        wahanui: patch workflow?
22:10 drojf          thanks
22:09 mtj            5.5.27-MariaDB-mariadb1~squeeze
22:08 drojf          mtj: what version of mariadb are you using? 5.5?
21:41 mtj            yep, that too
21:41 jcamins_away   mtj: XtraDB, actually.
21:41 * jcamins_away heads home, where he will send an e-mail announcing the new syspref policy.
21:41 mtj            oh good news, my dev database is all innodb on maria, not aria
21:40 eythian        yeah, it seems reasonable.
21:39 jcamins_away   eythian: yeah, that's why I originally suggested using add_syspref.
21:39 eythian        they look a bit scary
21:39 eythian        it would be nicer to avoid more of those "duplicate something something" messages.
21:38 cait           i don't care really, as long as we avoid people wondering about red error messages :)
21:37 jcamins_away   I am going to reject any INSERTs to the systempreferences table.
21:37 jcamins_away   On second thought, forget INSERT IGNORE.
21:36 * jcamins_away rubs his hands together and cackles gleefully.
21:36 jcamins_away   However, at that point I wasn't RM.
21:36 jcamins_away   Which I previously suggested and got shot down over for some reason.
21:36 rangi          yep
21:36 rangi          if its ansi sql, then all good
21:36 jcamins_away   The best option, of course, would be to use the add_syspref function.
21:36 rangi          we'll need to check that
21:36 rangi          i may be misremembering
21:35 jcamins_away   Nope. I'm not sure.
21:35 jcamins_away   I thought it was INSERT UPDATE that was a MySQL extension.
21:35 rangi          hmm you sure, im pretty sure its a mysqlism
21:35 jcamins_away   rangi: I believe so.
21:35 rangi          afaik it isnt
21:34 rangi          its ansi compliant sql right?
21:34 * cait         is busy filing minor acq bugs while configuring her new installation
21:34 cait           jcamins_away:  :)
21:32 * jcamins_away will have to consider this.
21:31 jcamins_away   On the other hand, there is also an argument for me being the one to change all the INSERTs to INSERT IGNOREs... with INSERT IGNORE people signing off are less likely to spot errors.
21:30 jcamins_away   :P
21:30 jcamins_away   This really seems like a Quality thing.
21:29 * jcamins_away has an inspiration.
21:29 jcamins_away   Ooooh.
21:29 jcamins_away   cait: yes, I will.
21:29 cait           jcamins_away: you should tell koha-devel that :P
21:12 chris_n        I'll fix it tomorrow
21:11 * chris_n      brute forces it from the command line
21:10 jcamins_away   Right.
21:10 chris_n        and reject patches written otherwise :)
21:09 chris_n        *nod*
21:09 jcamins_away   I should tell koha-devel that.
21:09 jcamins_away   And I prefer INSERT IGNORE for sysprefs.
21:09 chris_n        that heads off a bunch of needless warnings, etc.
21:09 jcamins_away   Agreed.
21:09 chris_n        really updatedatabase should check for existence
21:09 jcamins_away   Agreed.
21:09 chris_n        either way its a bugarooo
21:08 chris_n        rather than an outright death
21:08 jcamins_away   No, it should just keep going.
21:08 chris_n        what should happen is an offer to continue
21:08 jcamins_away   :)
21:08 chris_n        good catch
21:08 chris_n        ahh, I do as this is a dev box
21:08 jcamins_away   Do you?
21:07 chris_n        still digging
21:07 jcamins_away   Unless you have DEBUG set to 1.
21:07 chris_n        yes, one would think that
21:07 chris_n        badly behaved
21:07 jcamins_away   But that shouldn't be a fatal error.
21:07 chris_n        when it should check for existence and act accordingly
21:07 chris_n        and updatedatabase tries to create the field again
21:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7951 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, RESOLVED FIXED, Suspending holds needs a system preference
21:07 jcamins_away   bug 7951
21:07 chris_n        the problem is the patch for 7951 made it into the latest 3.08
21:05 cait           hey drojf
21:04 drojf          hi eythian
21:03 cait           hi eythian
21:01 eythian        hi
20:58 jcamins_away   Uh... that's a problem.
20:58 jcamins_away   Oh.
20:58 chris_n        it dies instantly
20:57 chris_n        web install won't let it run that long
20:57 jcamins_away   My guess is if you leave it running overnight, it'll be done by morning.
20:57 chris_n        I'll take a look tomorrow
20:57 chris_n        perhaps
20:57 chris_n        can't get past 3.09.00.011 and on to 3.09.00.062
20:57 jcamins_away   Are you sure that updatedatabase didn't just time out at that point?
20:56 chris_n        which is a blocker if it is true bug
20:56 jcamins_away   It prevents a full upgrade?
20:56 chris_n        except that it prevents a full upgrade
20:55 * chris_n      guesses updatedatabase is trying to due duplicate
20:55 jcamins_away   Probably nothing to worry about.
20:55 jcamins_away   chris_n: a bugfix that was backported to 3.8.x?
20:55 chris_n        mtj: probably so
20:55 chris_n        exactly
20:54 chris_n        the db I started with has zero customizations
20:54 jcamins_away   I need a script that takes a version number and gives me the commit message for the patch responsible for the following line.
20:54 chris_n        not sure what all is wrong
20:54 pastebot       "chris_n" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Updating database structure Up" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/269
20:54 chris_n        om, I'll post the error
20:53 chris_n        it blows up at 3.09.00.011
20:53 chris_n        yup
20:53 jcamins_away   chris_n: uh-oh?
20:53 chris_n        oops... spoke too soon
20:53 mtj            chris_n, i imagine oracle's thinking was 'hey, those other guys are using our test-suite to make their software better - lets stop that'
20:53 wizzyrea       mmm applesauce
20:53 jcamins_away   Who wants to feel like they're typing in applesauce?
20:53 wizzyrea       no, it's not mushy. But it is quiet
20:52 * jcamins_away hates that.
20:52 jcamins_away   wizzyrea: is your keyboard mushy?
20:52 * wizzyrea     hates unfamiliar keyboards.
20:52 wizzyrea       here*
20:52 wizzyrea       it's ok, I'm still working on sorting out my computer her
20:52 * jcamins_away is apparently a bit behind on the list of patches for 3.6.x.
20:51 wizzyrea       awwwwwwww
20:51 chris_n        well, upgrading from Koha 3.08.04.000 to 3.09.00.062 went largely without incident
20:51 cait           wizzyrea: I am not sure I agree with you hving moved to another timezone, I was missing you this afternoon!
20:51 wahanui        jcamins is too young to be the President of the United States.  Which is a pity, because he had the votes at the 3.12 election.
20:51 wizzyrea       jcamins!
20:51 wahanui        well, wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans.
20:51 jcamins_away   wizzyrea!
20:50 cait           hi wizzyrea :)
20:50 cait           yay :)
20:48 wahanui        well, wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans.
20:48 chris_n        heya wizzyrea
20:48 chris_n        it sure does not look good for MySQL based on the homework mtj sent along to the list
20:48 Guest5372      morning
20:48 chris_n        exactly
20:48 jcamins_away   And your patch almost applies.
20:48 jcamins_away   chris_n: that's a good thing. :)
20:47 chris_n        jcamins_away: iirc MariaDB enforces stricter SQL syntax than MySQL
20:45 cait           have a nice evening
20:45 cait           oleonard: thank you :)
20:44 oleonard       I gotta go, but I should be able to finish a patch tomorrow.
20:41 * cait         was still setting up a 3.8.x :)
20:41 cait           oh cool - thx!
20:41 oleonard       Yes, this seems to be the cause
20:41 cait           oleonard: are you looking at the scores?
20:40 * cait         agrees it sounds weird
20:40 * jcamins_away is going to have to go with "yes," cause that's really weird.
20:39 jcamins_away   oleonard: ummm...
20:39 jcamins_away   Right, hit upon the NOT NULL issue you patched.
20:39 oleonard       did something weird happen in 3.8.x when moving the famfamfam icons out of prog? I see three icons in opac-tmpl/lib/famfamfam and all the rest in opac-tmpl/prog/famfamfam
20:29 jcamins_away   chris_n: sort of.
20:29 chris_n        are you really away? :-)
20:28 chris_n        jcamins_away++
20:10 maximep        we use it in a few projects, but I have not worked on those
20:09 jcamins_away   maximep: you've used it?
20:09 maximep        MariaDB is really amazing =)
20:08 jcamins_away   Other than a touchy bit where MySQL tried to reassert itself, it went completely smoothly.
20:07 jcamins_away   Okay, I switched to MariaDB.
20:04 maximep        jcamins++
20:04 maximep        thanks
20:04 maximep        ok, will apply your patch
20:04 jcamins_away   Between 3.8.1 and 3.8.6, yes.
20:03 maximep        changing it requires a full rebuild
20:03 maximep        yeah, it's the 001
20:03 maximep        aaaaah you were right
20:00 maximep        good question... I may have changed the 001. Testing.
19:59 mtj            maximep, so the dupes are still happening after a full-reindex?
19:58 jcamins_away   maximep: and you haven't changed the 001?
19:57 cait           [off] oleonard: https://seminar-weingarten.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=7584 - now loading that on einto master :)
19:56 maximep        so at least 5 full rebuilds
19:56 maximep        yes, we updated 4 days ago
19:55 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8614 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Icon for scores on OPAC detail page broken
19:55 cait           oleonard: trying to reproduce bug 8614
19:55 jcamins_away   So this problem occurred *after* rebuilding Zebra?
19:54 maximep        well then it has to be something else :/
19:54 jcamins_away   rebuild_zebra -r will work fine.
19:54 jcamins_away   Period.
19:54 jcamins_away   Yes, but indexes are not stable between versions of Koha.
19:54 maximep        unless I have to really delete the index
19:53 maximep        we do a -b -r -v -x every night
19:53 jcamins_away   There is absolutely no situation in which an upgrade should not be followed immediately by a reindex.
19:53 jcamins_away   Always.
19:52 jcamins_away   That's the one.
19:52 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8665 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , DOM indexing fails to index some bib records
19:52 jcamins_away   maximep: however, you should always reindex when doing an upgrade anyway.
19:52 maximep        only thing I found is bug 8665
19:52 cait           oh, we will get spared then I guess :)
19:51 huginn         jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8562 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , RandomizeHoldsQueueWeight ignored if StaticHoldsQueueWeight is empty.
19:51 huginn         jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8252 critical, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Error in DOM biblio for UNIMARC (no range for fields 1xx)
19:51 huginn         jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8115 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , DOM indexing configuration should compute totalissues from items.issues
19:51 huginn         jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-create should be updated to use DOM indexing for bib
19:51 huginn         jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8802 minor, P4, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Library group records - category type reverts to "searchdomain" when editing group record
19:51 jcamins_away   @query dom
19:51 huginn         jcamins_away: There were no matching configuration variables.
19:51 jcamins_away   @search dom
19:51 maximep        ok. Do you remember the bz number or something I could search ?
19:50 jcamins_away   Yes.
19:50 maximep        so it's fixed in 3.8,7 ?
19:49 maximep        we installed 3.8.5 -_-
19:49 jcamins_away   The only way to avoid it is not to ever install Koha 3.8.1-3.8.6.
19:49 maximep        but still, duplicates for a day :/
19:49 maximep        well we do a complete reindex every night
19:49 cait           ah ok, not too bad then
19:48 jcamins_away   cait: complete reindex.
19:48 cait           oleonard++
19:47 cait           jcamins_away: what is the solution? complete reindex? or do you have to do something else?
19:47 maximep        huh, ok :S
19:46 jcamins_away   maximep: yes, rangi is going to put a big note about that in the release notes.
19:46 maximep        fixes it
19:46 maximep        doing a /home/koha/kohagit/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v -x --where biblionumber=x
19:45 maximep        I get duplicate results when I search for that biblio
19:45 maximep        but it seems right now if I edit a biblio and do a misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -x
19:45 maximep        hey everyone. We juste updated 1 koha installation fromn 3.6 to 3.8 and with it, to DOM indexing
19:28 oleonard       At least we're down to double digits: http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/bug_status.pl
19:24 mtj            jcamins_away, i havent confirmed the above … still poking
19:22 mtj            heya brendan
19:21 * oleonard     adjusts the rabbit ears on his monitor
19:21 * oleonard     wonders if his ability to connect to git is affected by the weather
19:21 jcamins_away   mtj: well that'd be something important to know.
19:20 mtj            looks like aria is non-transactional by default, until enabled
19:20 bag            boooo boooooo boooooooooo
19:20 wahanui        hmmm... mtj is a danger to bots everywhere.
19:20 bag            mtj?
19:20 bag            heya mtj
19:20 jcamins_away   mtj: InnoDB uses transactions.
19:19 mtj            https://kb.askmonty.org/en/aria-storage-engine/
19:18 mtj            TRANSACTIONAL= 0 or  1 , i am not sure…
19:18 mtj            aria being the default storage type in maria
19:17 mtj            -> https://kb.askmonty.org/en/aria-faq/
19:17 mtj            hmmm, it looks like my innodb tables are now ariadb tables, in mariadb
19:17 drojf          aaaw. what did MS ever do to you?
19:15 jcamins_away   But if we never get it working with MSSQL, don't expect me to be sad. :P
19:15 rangi          have now printed off all the notes :)
19:15 rangi          yep
19:14 jcamins_away   And I think it just uses DBI internally, so any database with a mature DBD should work, I think.
19:14 tcohen         i guess is just a matter of time
19:14 tcohen         there's  dbd::drizzle library
19:14 tcohen         jcamins_away: sounds good
19:13 jcamins_away   tcohen: "It has auto-increment support for SQLite, MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle, SQL Server and DB2 and is known to be used in production on at least the first four, and is fork- and thread-safe out of the box (although your DBD may not be).
19:12 jcamins_away   tcohen: I do not.
19:12 tcohen         jcamins_away: do u have pointers to a supported db engine list for dbix::class?
19:09 jcamins_away   tcohen: probably.
19:08 oleonard       biab
19:07 tcohen         do libsysguy need more beer to work on DBIx::Class?
19:07 ibeardslee     heh
19:07 chris_n        expecting mbalmer to appear any second now :)
19:06 * chris_n      ducks
19:06 jcamins_away   ibeardslee: once we have DBIx::Class.
19:06 ibeardslee     .. postgresql?
19:06 jcamins_away   tcohen: yeah, Drizzle is intended to be ACID-compliant.
19:05 rangi          jcamins_away: printing now
19:04 rangi          the drizzle team want to fix some of the design flaws
19:04 tcohen         (was talking about drizzle)
19:04 rangi          tcohen: its designed to be more compliant than mysql
19:04 rangi          (ie debian pull mysql)
19:04 tcohen         is it acid compliant at least?
19:04 jcamins_away   rangi: go prepare your training plan, or no one will be driving the train!
19:04 rangi          meanwhile investigate a dropin for mysql if we have to use that
19:03 rangi          so 2 parallels streams of work i can see, keep on the dbix::class (and ::schema)
19:03 jcamins_away   Getting Koha working on Drizzle would be really cool.
19:03 rangi          but a different goal
19:03 rangi          yep, its super fast
19:03 tcohen         Drizzle seems to be a stripped version of MySQL
19:02 chris_n        heya mtj
19:02 mtj            #moarning #koha
19:02 jcamins_away   tcohen: yeah, Percona supports MariaDB too.
19:02 tcohen         i guess their own fork is not community governed
19:01 tcohen         the drop-in replacement for InnoDB that is included in MarizDB
19:01 tcohen         i'm reading that percona is the company that developed XtraDB
19:01 rangi          right now, i really need to prepare my training plan
19:01 chris_n        oracle--
19:01 chris_n        exactly
19:01 rangi          im not proposing people switch now, but its better to be prepared :)
19:01 * jcamins_away votes that we get all those working.
19:01 chris_n        what rangi said :)
19:00 chris_n        for some reason I seem to recall MariaDB being the better choice
19:00 rangi          but maria is the only one designed to be a drop in, basically i want to test and make sure we have an option to switch if we need to
19:00 rangi          theirs drizzle too
18:59 jcamins_away   I think you can use MariaDB + Percona.
18:59 jcamins_away   tcohen: Percona isn't quite a fork, as I understand it.
18:59 tcohen         'Percona'
18:57 tcohen         rangi, our DBA told me there is another mysql fork around
18:57 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @ranginui: "Off to do some #kohails training, told the kids atarau says "daddy do you get to drive the train?" #slightlyinterestingworkstories"
18:54 cait           rangi: have fun :)
18:53 rangi          Bbl off to do some training
18:49 bag            yeah no kidding those are good points rangi
18:47 gaetan_B       bye
18:47 rangi          And it would be nice to test before we are forced to
18:47 drojf          true
18:46 rangi          It sure as hell won't get better on their watch
18:46 rangi          Cos all of trust Oracle to do is screw stuff up.
18:44 rangi          The plan is to test now before we have to
18:44 rangi          So far it seems to work fine
18:43 drojf          cool, gotta try that sometime. more virtual machines ftw :D
18:42 bag            heh
18:42 bag            test faster ;)
18:41 rangi          That's what are testing
18:41 rangi          In theory yes
18:41 drojf          morning rangi
18:41 drojf          mariadb being a "drop-in replacement" means i install mariadb, it kicks out mysql and everything just works?
18:36 cait           morning rangi
18:32 bag            morning rangi
18:32 wahanui        Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
18:32 rangi          Morning
17:37 * oleonard     goes to shake his piggy-bank
17:37 oleonard       Hackfest, woooo!
17:35 jcamins_away   paul_p: I'll push later.
17:30 paul_p         time to go back home for me !
17:30 paul_p         jcamins_away = some patches just passed QA.
16:54 oleonard       Yeah who knows what abuses my default framework has suffered.
16:43 jcamins        I made no changes at all.
16:43 jcamins        Perhaps you customized your framework?
16:43 oleonard       Must be a glitch with my default framework.
16:42 jcamins        That's why it's a bug.
16:42 jcamins        No, it's in the default frameworks.
16:41 oleonard       did you have to manually update your framework to set up the link?
16:40 jcamins        That's what I get.
16:40 pastebot       "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "oleonard: on current Master" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/268
16:39 jcamins        However, prior to the patch you couldn't use it at all, period.
16:39 oleonard       Heh.
16:39 jcamins        oleonard: no idea.
16:39 oleonard       what is coded_location_qualifier used for anyway?
16:38 jcamins        oleonard: really? It wasn't for me.
16:37 oleonard       The data I put in 952f is in more_subfields_xml
16:37 oleonard       Oh wait I think I'm misreading the columns in my select *
16:35 jcamins        Didn't occur to me to try the latter.
16:35 * jcamins      did the former to test it.
16:34 jcamins        That's very strange.
16:34 jcamins        oleonard: really?
16:33 oleonard       Weird, if I "select * from items where itemnumber = 11341" I see the information in coded_location_qualifier, but if I "select coded_location_qualifier from items where coded_location_qualifier IS NOT NULL;" I get nothing.
16:31 jcamins        oleonard: yes.
16:30 oleonard       If I add an item and fill in 952f, the data should appear in items.coded_location_qualifier?
16:21 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8915 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Referential integrity constraints and InnoDB vs MyISAM storage engine
16:21 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9053 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Test::MockModule and DBD::Mock should be required
16:21 jenkins_koha   * jonathan.druart: Bug 8915: Followup FIX QA issues
16:21 jenkins_koha   * f.demians: Bug 8915 A script fixing missing MySQL contraints
16:21 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 9053: Test::MockModule and DBD::Mock should be required
16:21 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #940: FIXED in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/940/
16:21 jenkins_koha   Yippie, build fixed!
16:17 chris_n        heya kf
16:10 reiveune       bye
16:08 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Merging Bib Records in Koha 3.4 http://t.co/6O0Bblwp"
16:04 * kf           waves at chris_n
15:54 jcamins        lol
15:53 chris_n        someone's perlmonks tag line
15:53 jcamins        chris_n: where did you see that?
15:53 chris_n        LOL => "I have never written bad code. There are merely unanticipated features."
15:36 * chris_n      stops in for a moment
15:13 jenkins_koha   Starting build #940 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #936 3 days 10 hr ago)
15:10 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8915' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc9c8c4124e6fe61ce0b3afe3b2d37c00fc7268a> / Bug 8915: Followup FIX QA issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=58e1ea91a192ae73ab26607d1a73a00a1619f591> / Bug 8915 A script fixing missing MySQL contraints <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e8b11ac07febd883b95
14:57 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8435 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , new permissions on subscriptions "superserials"
14:57 jcamins        bug 8435
14:55 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7932 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , twitter share doesn't work with socialnetworks
14:55 * oleonard     wonders why Bug 7932 is so hard to fix
14:46 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7119 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Signed Off , general code-cleaning, tidy/whitespace omnibus
14:46 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9036 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Signed Off , 00-load.t checks Koha::Cache::Memcached when it should not
14:46 jcamins        If any QAers are around, bug 9036 and bug 7119 are in need of attention.
14:45 * dracolin1    complains for no reason
14:44 * magnuse      does not think anyone will be complaining :-)
14:43 jcamins        Guess I ought to push some patches.
14:42 magnuse        success! \o/
14:40 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7921 major, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Software error while placing order
14:40 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8988 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , item status uses authorized value description for intranet
14:40 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8931 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , submit buttons have blue background
14:40 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9010 blocker, P5 - low, ---, dubyk, Pushed to Master , Quote of the day: diacritics & other utf8 chars not displayed correctly
14:40 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8972 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Due Date set to 100 years ago.
14:40 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8832 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , can't enter a tax rate on vendor or when ordering
14:40 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8989 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Availability facet needs an id
14:40 jenkins_koha   * fridolyn.somers: Bug 7921: Software error while placing order
14:40 jenkins_koha   * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8988: item status uses authorized value description for intranet
14:40 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8919 critical, P1 - high, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , ExtendedPatronAttributes not populated from LDAP
14:40 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9005 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Changing sysprefs requires restart under Plack
14:40 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 8931 [Follow-up] submit buttons have blue background
14:40 jenkins_koha   * veron: Bug 9010 - Follou up Quote of the day: Umlauts do not display correctly
14:40 jenkins_koha   * serhijdubyk: Bug 9010 - Quote of the day: Umlauts do not display correctly Added utf8-encoding in json-header for correct view quotes in quotes editor.
14:40 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 8832: Increment version number
14:40 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 8989 - Availability facet needs an id
14:40 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 8972 - Due Date set to 100 years ago
14:40 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8784 major, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Missing files in debian.packages list
14:40 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8805 major, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Add a biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl for NORMARC
14:40 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 8972 - Due Date set to 100 years ago
14:40 jenkins_koha   * jonathan.druart: Bug 8832: Update the gist pref and hide the tax rate value if not needed
14:40 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 8989 - Availability facet needs an id
14:40 jenkins_koha   * dpavlin: Bug 8919 - ExtendedPatronAttributes not populated from LDAP
14:40 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 9005: Allow user to disable syspref cache
14:40 jenkins_koha   * mtompset: Bug 8784 - Missing files in debian.packages list
14:40 jenkins_koha   * magnus: Bug 8805 - Add a biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl for NORMARC
14:40 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.10.x build #11: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/11/
13:58 jenkins_koha   Starting build #11 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:48 jcamins        The typo one doesn't involve string changes.
13:48 jcamins        15.
13:47 jcamins        Sorry, guys.
13:47 jcamins        Down from 16 on Friday, even though about a dozen were signed off.
13:47 jcamins        14 patches for 3.10 that need signoff.
13:46 jcamins        oleonard: yeah, there are...
13:46 oleonard       The non-enh list of needs-signoff is quite short, I didn't realize.
13:44 jcamins        Oy.
13:44 jcamins        More patches to push already.
13:41 oleonard       Seems like a great opportunity to rescue patches from obsolescence
13:41 oleonard       I always hope that during GBSD someone with a patch awaiting signoff will take the time to walk me (or anyone) through testing it, especially for the patches that are getting old
13:37 * oleonard     will try
13:37 oleonard       No test plan :(
13:36 kf             this one looks good
13:36 kf             oleonard: I think anything marked bug and not enhancement would be great
13:36 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4481 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Search's Limit to Available filters out many available items
13:36 jcamins        oleonard: bug 4481
13:35 * drojf        wanders off
13:35 drojf          omg free signoffs and i'm not prepared ;)
13:34 oleonard       Does anyone have a bug in the signoff queue that they'd like to lobby for?
13:29 jcamins        kf: Hm.
13:28 kf             jcamins: maybe I need to do something else
13:28 kf             jcamins: hm checked out the latest version - and it didn't work there for me
13:27 drojf          oleonard: i did not dare to ask :)
13:27 jcamins_away   oleonard: git-bz.
13:27 * oleonard     wonders "Fishsoup branch?!"
13:23 jcamins_away   kf: that was the bug I fixed in the fishsoup branch.
13:09 kf             oh
13:03 * oleonard     is sorry we didn't get the GBSD Twitter bot running for GBSW :(
13:02 tcohen         hi oleonard
12:59 oleonard       Hi #koha
12:50 drojf          hi tcohen
12:48 tcohen         morning #koha
11:34 kf             not for each insert, but for each update/feature
11:34 kf             sorry, I might have misunderstood your question
11:34 kf             you can do those in 1 version
11:33 kf             hm no
11:33 WaylonR2D2     right.. so.. okay.. three updatedatabase stanzas for three new prefs.
11:33 WaylonR2D2     (in updatedatabase)
11:33 kf             it increases the last part of the version number, yes
11:32 WaylonR2D2     every new database insert, requires a new version?
11:19 Oak            :)
11:19 magnuse        yay!
11:19 magnuse        Oak
11:17 Oak            magnuse
11:17 Oak            kia ora #koha
11:10 WaylonR2D2     ahhh!!!!!
11:10 WaylonR2D2     +$DBversion = "3.06.XX.XXX"; #FIXME
11:10 WaylonR2D2     okay, comment 3, halfdone.. moving on to the updatedatabase stanza.... time to find a database change patch, and see what it does.
11:09 WaylonR2D2     haha
11:04 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9020 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Translate new permissions for 3.10
11:04 magnuse        kf: your patch on bug 9020 is signed off
10:51 WaylonR        just for the defaults?
10:50 WaylonR        why am i updating sysprefs.sql when its largely irrelevant now, anyway?
10:35 kf             just look at another patch with a database update
10:35 kf             you make it say XXX
10:34 WaylonR        database changes.. don't I need a update number for that? or .... do i just use next one in the sequence and if it goes into master, RM will change it accordingly?
10:33 WaylonR        okay, jcamins comment 1. solved.
10:20 WaylonR        when i had 3.
10:19 * WaylonR      nods. "two here,ah.. was a time when i used three.
10:19 kf             2 at work, one at home
10:18 WaylonR        out of interest, how many monitors you use, kf?
10:17 WaylonR        ah.. i need more monitors..
10:15 WaylonR        well.. i can always be told later, for now, ill just fix according to what i think jcamins wants... and yeah. Do something, even though i feel.. ah... wierd..
10:14 kf             and doing things like moving us to jquery ui
10:14 kf             he is looking after the gui in general
10:14 WaylonR        hmm.
10:14 WaylonR        ah
10:14 kf             because I think he knows about those things best :)
10:14 WaylonR        why oleonard, kf?
10:13 kf             that's why I kept the German out of hte subject I think :)
10:13 kf             magnuse: not add all
10:13 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9020 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Translate new permissions for 3.10
10:13 magnuse        kf: mind if i add a patch for nb-NO to Bug 9020, after signing off your patch?
10:12 kf             WaylonR: maybe talk to oleonard about that - I am not sure how they get added
10:11 WaylonR        or have it all in plugins?
10:11 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, ASSIGNED , Mandumah.com's multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod
10:11 WaylonR        bug 9055:  The jQuery plugin and its associated assets need to go in koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/lib/jquery/plugins .... does that mean that I put the js in there, and the css in a subdir inside plugins, images in a subdir?
09:43 kf             :)
09:42 wizzyrea       it went well :)
09:42 kf             squeee! how was your first day?
09:42 kf             hi wizzyrea :)
09:34 magnuse        back to work after 3 weeks holiday - probably rather busy
09:28 magnuse        hehe
09:28 wizzyrea       squee! kf!
09:15 magnuse        :-)
09:14 kf             yay :)
09:14 magnuse        it's... the return of kf!
09:14 magnuse        [off] http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?list_id=46117&bug_severity=enhancement&query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=ASSIGNED <-- for WaylonR
09:13 kf             hi all
09:12 magnuse        WaylonR: tried the advanced search?
09:11 WaylonR        hiya all. wheres an example of a enhancement bug in bugs.koha-community.org?
08:59 trea           hi magnuse
08:50 drojf          good morning magnuse
08:49 magnuse        ...and kf and drojf
08:49 magnuse        kia ora trea
08:42 drojf          not much koha-time ATM
08:42 drojf          hi kf
08:40 kf             you are back too? :)
08:40 kf             hi drojf
08:39 drojf          good morning #koha
08:28 wizzyrea       yep :)
08:27 magnuse        preschool?
08:27 magnuse        yay
08:26 wizzyrea       well half day for him
08:26 wizzyrea       yep, first day of work for me, and first day of school for spud.
08:25 magnuse        first day at work done?
08:25 wizzyrea       hi :)
08:24 * magnuse      waves to wizzyrea
08:21 wizzyrea       really ought to fix that. tomorrow.
08:20 marcelr        hi #koha
08:15 gaetan_B       hello
08:15 magnuse        gah, lots of french strings in the nb-NO syspref translation
08:05 paul_p         rangi do you have seen France-Australie 2 days ago ? great match from froggies, aussies strangely poorly playing (was it because frenchies were really better ? not completly sure...)
08:04 paul_p         good morning #koha
08:00 reiveune       hello
07:58 magnuse        bonjour france
07:56 sophie_m       hi#koha
07:27 rangi          hi alex_a
07:26 alex_a         bonjour
07:06 cait           thx :)
07:05 cait           maybe that was the reason then
07:05 cait           aah
07:05 * magnuse      looks for breakfast
07:04 rangi          then you can sort on it
07:04 rangi          and add itt
07:04 rangi          if they didnt save it with the severity column, then no, you have to click change columns
07:04 rangi          it depends how the person saved it
07:03 cait           is it possible bugzilla doesn't let you sort by severity on saved searches? (by default?)
07:03 cait           hmm
07:01 huginn         magnuse: Not yet - wait 10 days
07:01 magnuse        @arewethereyet
07:00 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8746 major, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , rebuild_zebra_sliced.sh don't work where Record length of 106041 is larger than the MARC spec allows
07:00 rangi          bug 8746
07:00 magnuse        oog, good one wahanui
07:00 wahanui        which one is 3.6.x?
07:00 magnuse        which one?
07:00 rangi          yep
06:59 cait           hm one major waiting for sign-off currently
06:58 magnuse        http://div.libriotech.no/kohamisc/gbsd/gbsd11/hourlystatus-gbsd11.txt
06:56 magnuse        yup
06:56 cait           so we still got time!
06:56 cait           that#s good
06:56 rangi          righto
06:56 cait           ah
06:56 magnuse        and 11 am on tuesday for me
06:55 magnuse        according to http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Global+bug+squashing+day+2012-11-12+-+stop&iso=20121112T2355&p1=103 it ends at 11 pm on tuesday for you
06:55 rangi          :)
06:54 magnuse        rangi: short answer: depends on where you are :-)
06:30 rangi          magnuse: how much left of the bug weekend?
06:16 * magnuse      takes the dogs out
06:16 magnuse        hiya francharb
06:16 francharb      hi #koha
06:15 magnuse        ...and kia ora #koha
06:15 magnuse        the tweets were rubbish last time, and i did not get around to figuring out why
05:57 mtj            hmm, did we/magnus forget to activate the gbsd tweets this time
05:57 eythian        new packages from master published
05:33 huginn         eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (6:00 PM NZDT on November 12, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
05:33 eythian        @wunder nzwn
05:29 eythian        should make a koha-community signing key at some point so it's not using my personal one.
05:29 eythian        yeah, a while back they changed how pbuilder worked to make it more strict about checking certs
05:26 mtj            i might as well kill *3* birds with one stone, after the successful mariadb switch
05:25 mtj            i think im finally gonna switch my dev koha over to plack (or starman?) today
05:20 mtj            eythian++ awesome stuff
05:18 mtj            additions
05:18 mtj            woah, lots of gpg addition
05:13 eythian        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages#Build_The_Packages <-- /me has finally updated the instructions to account for annoying (but sensible) changes in Debian.
05:12 mtj            -> http://www.generalthreat.com/2012/09/serving-the-koha-common-opac-with-plack/
05:12 mtj            oooh, koha-plack start/stop script for the deb packages
04:51 huginn         rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (5:00 PM NZDT on November 12, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
04:51 rangi          @wunder nzwn
04:26 rangi          that will do it
04:26 rangi          Nov 12 03:48:54 li105-217 kernel: Killed process 29246 (mysqld) total-vm:336088kB, anon-rss:80288kB, file-rss:0kB
04:26 rangi          Nov 12 03:48:54 li105-217 kernel: Out of memory: Kill process 29246 (mysqld) score 259 or sacrifice child
04:23 eythian        jcamins_away: you can avoid bed now
04:23 rangi          should be all back
04:21 eythian        later
04:21 * jcamins_away heads to bed.
04:21 jcamins_away   Probably this is a hint that I shouldn't be bugzilla-ing anyway.
04:20 eythian        yeah, it's a common misconception that you actually can.
04:20 jcamins_away   Oh, right... when bugzilla is down I can't use it.
04:14 eythian        some time before 17:07
04:14 eythian        recently, but not sure exactly
04:14 rangi          any ideas when it stopped?
04:12 * eythian      doesn't have permissions to fix it :(
04:10 eythian        the Koha bugzilla that is
04:10 eythian        http://youtu.be/LJvM3m2hVzo <-- this is an explanation of the current state of bugzilla
04:01 eythian        too late, she's gone :)
04:00 jcamins_away   Good night, wizzyrea. :)
04:00 eythian        also, I build in wheezy a lot of the time, so would have noticed it there.
03:58 jcamins_away   I think they're not, most likely.
03:58 eythian        I don't recall anything along those lines happening in debian
03:58 wizzyrea       alright friends, I'm outtie :)
03:58 eythian        I wonder what they're thinking
03:57 eythian        how weird
03:57 jcamins_away   But I was unable to build packages at all without changing the libwww packages, and the results aren't installable on Squeeze.
03:56 eythian        ah.
03:56 jcamins_away   Apparently.
03:56 jcamins_away   Precise has shim packages.
03:56 jcamins_away   Right.
03:56 eythian        also, this affects building on precise, not deploying on it?
03:55 eythian        oh good. I'll have to figure out what they're doing there.
03:55 jcamins_away   Yeah. I added a couple of overrides, but I'll need to review all the packages or the koha packages won't install on any other OS version or flavor.
03:51 eythian        oh. that's a strange thing to do.
03:51 jcamins_away   Ubuntu redid the way Perl modules are packaged.
03:50 eythian        what's special about precise?
03:49 jcamins_away   eythian: the update-control scripts would require further refinement to make it work properly under Precise.
03:47 eythian        yep
03:47 jcamins_away   You should regenerate the control file, though.
03:47 wizzyrea       eythian: it was almost certainly the paths - i'm still getting that sorted but thanks for the gentle nudge in the right direction
03:47 eythian        OK. Maybe I'll grab it and take a look
03:46 jcamins_away   eythian: the bug_9051 branch on git.cpbibliography.com has all my work on that.
03:44 rgbv           Brilliant, Thanks you both :)
03:44 eythian        something like that
03:44 eythian        APT::Install-Recommends "0";
03:44 eythian        $ cat apt.conf.d/90install-recommends
03:43 jcamins_away   I don't know? How would I find out?
03:43 eythian        (it isn't by default)
03:43 jcamins_away   Ummm...
03:43 eythian        do you have No-Recommends enabled on your apt config?
03:42 jcamins_away   The Recommends field doesn't seem to show up in the packages I build.
03:41 eythian        oh, bad
03:41 jcamins_away   eythian: it doesn't entirely work at all.
03:40 eythian        jcamins_away: oh, good :)
03:40 jcamins_away   rgbv: right.
03:40 eythian        yeah
03:40 jcamins_away   eythian: BTW, http://git.cpbibliography.com/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=0dc0745a3793d420ac6be1a6767803b308b46cb2
03:39 rgbv           then kill 427347 at mysql prompt?
03:39 rgbv           the query number the Id  like 427347
03:38 * jcamins_away is kinda sleepy.
03:38 jcamins_away   eythian: oh, right grant all privileges. Right. :)
03:37 eythian        I don't think you have to be root, you an also be the same user that's running the query (I'm somewhat sure)
03:37 jcamins_away   (MySQL root)
03:37 jcamins_away   As root.
03:37 jcamins_away   Then kill querynumber;
03:37 jcamins_away   In MySQL, run show processlist;
03:36 eythian        these are mysql commands
03:36 jcamins_away   No.
03:36 rgbv           so PID from top and then kill?
03:36 eythian        and then kill the query number
03:36 eythian        show processlist;
03:35 jcamins_away   rgbv: kill the query?
03:35 rgbv           we have run a report that has made mysql hog 99% of the cpu, any idea how I can stop it?
03:33 eythian        however, koha-common will give you a working installation.
03:33 eythian        yeah, all it does is pull in the deps for you (which is useful)
03:33 jcamins_away   eythian: I haven't tried koha-perldeps, I just read the debian/control file.
03:33 rgbv           hi all
03:32 eythian        (usually)
03:32 eythian        jcamins_away: thing is, perldeps requires you to do a lot more, whereas starting from a complete install means you have to change a few paths and it works.
03:30 jcamins_away   Right.
03:30 wizzyrea       bc you see I don't have a proper installation to work from yet :)
03:30 jcamins_away   :)
03:30 wizzyrea       it's np - I'm not ready to start cherry-picking yet, I'm still at the talking phase atm
03:29 jcamins_away   wizzyrea: I'll look at recent commits that need cherry-picking tomorrow.
03:29 wizzyrea       well that didn't change anything, but I will go back and look for more things that I possibly missed
03:27 jcamins_away   Ah.
03:27 wizzyrea       no more mac for me
03:27 * wizzyrea     is on ubuntu now :)
03:27 jcamins_away   On a Mac it requires _Alt_+refresh.
03:26 jcamins_away   I've seen that when checking out 3.6.x on an installation that previously had master running.
03:26 wizzyrea       so put that aside for now ;)
03:26 wizzyrea       that looks like a path problem let me do some digging about
03:26 jcamins_away   Hmmm... could you confirm that?
03:25 wizzyrea       master
03:25 wizzyrea       TypeError: YAHOO.widget.DS_XHR is not a constructor is also a problem
03:25 jcamins_away   What version?
03:25 wizzyrea       is what mine looks like
03:25 wizzyrea       http://imgur.com/9mAh7
03:24 jcamins_away   I pushed it last week, I think.
03:23 wizzyrea       I've been away for a month I have some catching up to do :)
03:23 jcamins_away   eythian++ # for making it
03:23 jcamins_away   Right, koha-perldeps is a new package.
03:23 wizzyrea       I think
03:23 wizzyrea       no, that part is ok
03:23 wizzyrea       i converted a package install to a dev install
03:22 jcamins_away   Why not just use koha-perldeps?
03:22 jcamins_away   And... why?
03:22 jcamins_away   What did you do?
03:22 jcamins_away   Wait, I'm confused.
03:21 wizzyrea       it needs a bit of help I think
03:21 eythian        that wiki page is pretty old
03:21 * wizzyrea     pats wahanui
03:21 wizzyrea       and I will add that to the instructions on the wiki
03:20 wizzyrea       eythian++ thanks I will look for that
03:20 eythian        that catches everything in there I think
03:20 eythian        search for 'share'
03:20 wizzyrea       bc I think I did not do much in there.
03:20 wizzyrea       k I'm going to double check my koha-conf
03:20 eythian        basically, if you miss a path either in the apache config, or in the koha-conf.xml, then you can get crazy things happening.
03:20 wizzyrea       1s
03:20 wizzyrea       no, mine is even a bit more silly than that
03:20 mtj            wizzyrea, like that? -> http://imgur.com/x9Jlc
03:19 mtj            ta eythian++
03:19 wizzyrea       well I probably do have that
03:19 eythian        also make sure that you don't have different versions of things, e.g. running package libs with git templates
03:19 wizzyrea       AHA
03:19 jcamins_away   Okay, that's not it.
03:19 jcamins_away   We just noticed problems with yui stylesheets.
03:19 wizzyrea       TypeError: $("#header_search").tabs is not a function
03:18 wizzyrea       following reed's instructions - I don't see any 404's let me double check
03:18 wizzyrea       package converted to dev
03:18 wizzyrea       yep
03:18 jcamins_away   Is it a package install?
03:17 eythian        imgur
03:17 mtj            whats a quick/dirty image-upload website?
03:17 eythian        are you getting 404s from any of the stylesheets?
03:17 wizzyrea       is not working for me :/
03:16 wizzyrea       hrmmm tjat
03:16 mtj            meh, some refresh fixed it on chrome too
03:16 eythian        ah, it was clearly broken by someone using OSX! :)
03:16 wizzyrea       this is ff-ubuntu
03:15 mtj            ok in ff-osx for me
03:14 wizzyrea       mine is broken in firefox and chromium
03:14 mtj            me wonky in chrome , but ok in safari
03:14 wizzyrea       phew, I thought I had lost my mind or done something strange
03:14 wizzyrea       !!
03:13 mtj            hmm, same bug for me wiz ?!
03:13 wizzyrea       hrm noo it's not that
03:13 eythian        make sure you do a force refresh, I've had old CSS stuck in cache before
03:12 wizzyrea       under the search bar
03:12 eythian        ah
03:12 wizzyrea       search patrons
03:12 wizzyrea       for check out, check in
03:12 eythian        also, "shutter" looks good for screenshots
03:12 wizzyrea       lol yea
03:12 wahanui        tabs are different
03:12 eythian        wizzyrea: tabs?
03:11 wizzyrea       well 3 weeks
03:11 wizzyrea       is there a known weirdness in the header of the intranet? I'll grant you I've not been looking much at koha for the last couple of weeks - but there used to be tabs up there?
03:11 eythian        you can use alt-printscreen if you want to be fancy ;)
03:10 eythian        it's not something I do a lot of :)
03:09 wizzyrea       utilitarian :)
03:09 eythian        although, gimp has a screenshotting function
03:09 eythian        wizzyrea: I press printscreen usually
03:08 wizzyrea       does anyone have a favorite screenshotting tool for linux?
01:47 wizzyrea       jcamins, when you have a minute we should chat about things you want to put in 3.6.(next)
01:47 eythian        http://javadoc.bugaco.com/com/sun/java/swing/plaf/nimbus/InternalFrameInternalFrameTitlePaneInternalFrameTitlePaneMaximizeButtonPainter.html <-- java
01:23 mtj            cool, good to hear
01:23 wizzyrea       (and that's totally ok and by design)
01:23 wizzyrea       :)
01:23 wizzyrea       no, I still handle that stuff
01:23 mtj            … that i should bug, instead of you
01:22 mtj            wizzyrea, is there a new person at NEKLS now, that handles kc.org/wordpress stuff
01:17 rangi          ah right
01:16 mtj            no, i said we are good to go… *after* i get some
01:15 rangi          i thougth you said you got some?
01:14 mtj            hey chris, start that ball rollin'
01:14 mtj            lol, yeap - me neither...
01:13 rangi          yeah i just havent seen any
01:12 mtj            no, onlist replies please
01:10 rangi          mtj: the +1 offlist replies?
01:07 wahanui        i guess report library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/3.2_SQL_Reports_Library
01:07 wizzyrea       report library
01:07 wizzyrea       mysql library?
01:06 wizzyrea       I knew there was a reason I put all of those links in your memory
01:05 wizzyrea       thanks wahanui ;)
01:05 wahanui        version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
01:05 wizzyrea       version control using git?
00:58 wizzyrea       thanks, yep it's my first day here, pretty exciting.
00:58 wizzyrea       so far so good - lots to do :)
00:53 BobB           First day at Catalyst?  Enjoy!!
00:53 mtj            you settling in ok, liz?
00:52 wizzyrea       and thanks jcamins
00:52 wizzyrea       cool, thanks bobb :)
00:52 mtj            cool.. so after some +1's replies for my email on koha-dev, we are good to go
00:51 BobB           hi wizzyrea : welcome to the southern hemisphere :)
00:44 jcamins_away   I can edit the download.k-c.org page.
00:41 wizzyrea       that I can fix
00:41 wizzyrea       BUT the other, the k-c.org/download
00:41 wizzyrea       plus I don't work at nekls anymore :)
00:41 wizzyrea       I might have a login technically, but I've long since forgotten/lost what it is
00:40 wizzyrea       the first page, download.k-c.org is managed by.... I think gmcharlt has a hand in that
00:29 jcamins_away   [off] But why can't you just rewrite Koha in PSQL?
00:21 BobB           :)
00:18 mtj            its a perfectly good idea, that some people will find offensive
00:17 mtj            i was being sarcastic :)
00:15 BobB           why do you say that, mtj?  seems a good idea to me
00:04 mtj            everyone - please excuse my trolly email to koha-dev