Time  Nick           Message
23:39 jcamins        I can edit the latter, I think, if there's consensus. Not the first, though.
23:32 mtj            so, if we put warnings there - we can can probably stop much of that sillyness
23:31 mtj            … those are the 2 pages they hit first
23:31 mtj            the theory is , when beginners make an incorrect choice when installing a koha (using the tarball method)
23:29 mtj            but - i cant edit either page, afaict
23:28 mtj            and probably this page too -> http://download.koha-community.org/
23:28 mtj            i had an idea about editing the kc.org/download-koha page, and recomending to use the deb packages...
23:27 mtj            wizzyrea, about?
22:37 wahanui        OK, eythian.
22:37 eythian        wahanui: moore's law is <reply>Moore's Law states that every two years we double the amount of time we waste on computers.
22:37 eythian        cya
22:37 cait           bye all :)
22:37 wahanui        thanks cait :)
22:37 cait           wahanui botsnack cookie
22:36 wahanui        eythian is a good influence or located somewhere.
22:36 cait           eythian?
22:36 wahanui        It's easy to make assumptions about puppies strapped to missiles, but good science requires testing.
22:36 cait           science?
22:36 cait           lol
22:36 eythian        oh good.
22:36 wahanui        i already had it that way, eythian.
22:36 eythian        wahanui: science is <reply>It's easy to make assumptions about puppies strapped to missiles, but good science requires testing.
22:36 eythian        science is <reply>It's easy to make assumptions about puppies strapped to missiles, but good science requires testing.
22:32 cait           bye magnuse
22:32 eythian        later magnuse
22:31 magnuse        and good night-or-other-time-of-the-day #koha
22:31 magnuse        have fun wizzyrea
22:29 magnuse        yay
22:29 eythian        magnuse: yep
22:29 wahanui        OK, eythian.
22:29 eythian        wahanui: radioactivity is <reply>Radioactivity gave Curie super strength, but ultimately her power killed her.
22:28 magnuse        ooh wizzyreas first day in the new job?
22:28 cait           that's what I mean
22:28 eythian        it's all true!
22:28 cait           hope you are not the one teaching her false facts :P
22:28 wahanui        Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
22:28 cait           germs?
22:27 eythian        cait: she's still being taught everything she needs to know
22:27 cait           why are you still here? :)
22:27 cait           lol
22:27 * magnuse      blushes
22:26 magnuse        huh?
22:25 cait           wizzyrea: how is work? :)
22:25 cait           me too!
22:25 cait           but yeah :)
22:24 cait           wizzyrea: in norwegian? :)
22:18 wizzyrea       i love listening to magnuse talk
22:03 eythian        heh
21:59 cait           eythian: you should have heard magnuse talking :)
21:41 eythian        it's what cait speaks normally.
21:41 wizzyrea       moon languages?
21:40 eythian        ita vera
21:39 cait           eythian: guess you are glad you got some practice in dealing with moon languages
21:39 cait           eythian: ah i see
21:37 wizzyrea       I do talk funny, that's true
21:36 wizzyrea       <.<
21:36 wizzyrea       >.>
21:36 eythian        oh no! there they are!
21:35 eythian        cait: so yes, as I was saying, I'm not sure about this new person, they seem a bit fishy and speak funny!
21:24 jcamins        What a legacy.
21:24 eythian        but I do use dh-make-perl to get started
21:24 jcamins        lol
21:24 eythian        ah right, I often fall back to debuild as dh-make-perl doesn't produce .changes files it seems.
21:24 cait           hah!
21:24 eythian        http://mxdp.tumblr.com/post/35120475582/you-can-buy-a-floor-tile-with-your-name-on-at-the
21:24 jcamins        eythian: debuild works properly, though.
21:23 mtj            eythian thanks!, ill try that :) ^^
21:23 jcamins        eythian: don't.
21:23 cait           trying to figure out the next complaint now :)
21:23 eythian        jcamins: oh really? I don't think I've done it on precise.
21:23 cait           eythian: moo went fine
21:23 mtj            ive been meaning to write a carton? file to pull the modules from cpan, as a starter...
21:23 eythian        cait: you mean "apt-get moo" ?
21:23 cait           mtj: thx :)
21:22 jcamins        eythian: unless you're using Ubuntu Precise, in which case that does all sorts of weird things that do not result in a deb.
21:22 cait           and Moo *moo*
21:22 eythian        mtj: dh-make-perl --build --cpan Module::Name :)
21:21 cait           ah, that's seems to be packaged
21:21 cait           :)
21:21 cait           tss
21:21 cait           and smart comments
21:21 mtj            looks like theres no deb package, only cpan
21:20 mtj            yeah sorry, me lazy :/
21:20 cait           eew a cpan module hehe
21:19 cait           oh
21:19 mtj            $ cpanm Test/Perl/Critic/Progressive.pm
21:19 cait           BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at koha-qa.pl line 28.
21:19 cait           Can't locate Test/Perl/Critic/Progressive.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/katrin/kohaclone /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at koha-qa.pl line 28.
21:19 cait           ah not that
21:19 cait           libtest-perl-critic-progressive-perl
21:19 cait           missing a module  ithink
21:18 mtj            cait, whats the error?
21:17 jcamins        mtj: you are hereby summoned to tell your QAM how the koha-qa.pl script works.
21:16 * cait         goes to refill
21:16 cait           aah
21:16 wahanui        cait: The monitor needs another box of pixels.
21:16 cait           excuse?
21:16 eythian        cait: that's why
21:15 wahanui        eythian: Boredom in the Kernel.
21:15 eythian        wahanui: excuse
21:13 cait           hm why does this qa script not work...
21:13 cait           eythian: we can wait until she is here
21:13 eythian        cait: not on line or I'd make jokes ;)
21:13 cait           gute nacht!
21:13 mveron         quit
21:12 cait           mveron: thx :)
21:12 mveron         Good night #koha
21:12 mveron         cait: Gutes Beginnen und Gelingen :-)
21:12 cait           how is the new coworker?
21:12 cait           hi eythian :)
21:12 wahanui        bonjour, eythian
21:12 eythian        hi
21:12 cait           hope to get started on more koha work then
21:11 cait           my vacation ends tomorrow
21:11 cait           mveron: nice :)
21:11 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9056 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Add more translations to table language_descriptions
21:11 mveron         cait: I did the German (and some French)  translation for the language descriptions. Could only test updatedatabase.pl at the moment, umlauts are OK. See Bug 9056.
20:30 cait           mtj++
20:30 cait           :)
20:30 mtj            hey cait  :)
20:24 cait           morning mtj
20:22 mtj            morning #koha
19:42 cait           will be so happy to be done with that topic
19:42 trea           cool
19:42 cait           pretty happy right now - finished the last mandatory parts for my current distance study course 5 minutes ago :)
19:41 trea           how are you today?
19:41 trea           good. just catching up on emails
19:41 cait           trea: how are you doing?
19:37 cait           :)
19:36 trea           indeed
19:33 cait           is wizzyrea off to work? :)
19:33 trea           hi cait!
19:33 cait           hi trea :)
19:32 trea           kia ora
19:32 rangi          hey trea
19:01 cait           and then do a test installation?
19:01 cait           mveron: maybe just check in your editor that the file is encoded correctly
18:59 mveron         Ok, I just wanted to be sure
18:59 cait           we have umlauts in the other sql files, and that works ok
18:59 cait           I think it should be a utf-8 encoded file
18:58 cait           hm
18:55 mveron         In subtag_registry.sql I see things like  Fran&ccedil;ais instead of Français . Is this historic or shoud I encode Umlauts as e.g. ä -> &auml;  ?
18:38 cait           cool
18:36 mveron         I file a new bug then.
18:35 rangi          One for new installs
18:35 cait           definitely add it to the web installer files
18:35 rangi          One for ppl upgrading
18:35 cait           yep
18:35 rangi          You need it in both
18:35 mveron         Alternativ would be subtag_registry.sql, but as far as I understand it is only used while installing.
18:34 mveron         I already prepared insert statements and I am about to file a bug. I'm not sure where to add the statements, I was hinking about updatedatabase.pl because similar stuff is there for Norwegian.
18:31 cait           we coudl add them, maybe use 9024 fo rthat too?
18:31 cait           so I am not sure if I touched that file at all
18:31 cait           mveron: I didn't know how it worked back then I think
18:31 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8954 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , Languages list in advanced search always in english
18:31 mveron         cait: While signing off Bug 8954 I found that in table language_descriptions a lot of language names are not translated in German
18:29 huginn         rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 12, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
18:29 rangi          @wunder nzwn
18:28 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9024 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Add additional sample data to German installer
18:28 cait           bug 9024
18:28 cait           hm not that one
18:28 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9025 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Add new icons for item types
18:28 cait           bug 9025
18:28 cait           hm
18:28 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9023 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Update installer txt files to have more accurate information
18:28 mveron         Bug 9023, I suppose
18:28 cait           and translated the new permissions, it should be ok
18:28 cait           and some authorized values we had no examples for
18:27 cait           like the notice templates for circulation slips
18:27 cait           I added some things that were missing
18:27 mveron         What did you change with teh web installer?
18:26 mveron         I did not have to much time this weekend...
18:25 cait           I wanted to ask you to sign off, but kyle now already did
18:25 cait           I have started some work on the german webinstaller - hope it's ok
18:25 mveron         :-)
18:25 cait           hi mveron :)
18:25 mveron         Hi #koha
18:25 rangi          Hehe
18:24 cait           economics--
18:24 cait           morning
18:23 wahanui        it has been said that Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
18:23 rangi          Morning
17:22 huginn         druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 1.2°C (11:21 AM CST on November 11, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
17:22 druthb         @wunder 66046
17:21 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 9.0°C (6:00 PM CET on November 11, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
17:21 cait           @wunder konstanz
14:28 jcamins        Yes.
14:28 WaylonR        right.. meaning ALL and multibranch disabled.
14:25 jcamins        One note about the defaults- they should be as close to the current behavior as possible.
14:25 * cait         cheers for jcamins
14:24 * jcamins      is _very_ strict about commit messages.
14:24 jcamins        And while you're amending the commit you can change the commit message.
14:24 jcamins        Right.
14:24 WaylonR        so it commits back to the same commit.
14:24 WaylonR        ahh
14:23 jcamins        Make the changes, do git add, then do `git commit --amend`
14:22 jcamins        I would prefer that you amended the commit.
14:22 WaylonR        so, i edit my branch, commit, and do a further git patch? or do i uncommit, edit, then git patch with all the changes?
14:21 WaylonR        ah.. okay.
14:20 jcamins        You must have sensible defaults.
14:20 jcamins        Yes.
14:20 cait           But sensible defaults in there are also good
14:20 jcamins        Oh well.
14:20 jcamins        Hm.
14:19 wahanui        system preferences is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences
14:19 jcamins        system preferences?
14:19 wahanui        i guess system preferences is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences
14:19 jcamins        system preferences?
14:19 wahanui        somebody said system preferences was http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences
14:19 jcamins        system preferences?
14:19 wahanui        system preferences is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences
14:19 jcamins        system preferences?
14:19 jcamins        wahanui: system preferences are also -- see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences if you are a developer looking to add one
14:18 wahanui        jcamins: excuse me?
14:18 jcamins        That didn't help, wahanui.
14:18 wahanui        sysprefs are "System Preferences", found on my Koha admin homepage
14:18 jcamins        sysprefs?
14:18 jcamins        The description is pulled from the .pref file, but the actual data has to be in MySQL.
14:17 jcamins        The sysprefs have to go in the database.
14:17 WaylonR        hmm? update syspref.sql? thought we now use a file based pref system, not a sql based one? or do you mean, to set sensible defaults?
14:16 jcamins        Those comments are not exhaustive, of course, but what I noticed upon first review.
14:16 cait           WaylonR: sorry, working on something else right now
14:15 jcamins        WaylonR: I posted my comments on the bug.
14:13 WaylonR        does it look coherient?
14:13 WaylonR        what you think?
14:12 cait           I saw :)
14:11 WaylonR        patch submitted.
14:11 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, ASSIGNED , Mandumah.com's multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod
14:11 WaylonR        bug 9055
14:10 WaylonR        cait, 9055
14:10 cait           hi WaylonR
14:10 WaylonR        greeting cait
13:48 cait           hm now he was gone too fast
13:28 libsysguy      has anybody here used Selenium?
11:05 newa34         ok aa sorry i have mixed up the both cronjob on single line ..be back after runnig it again
11:05 cait           make sure you also have activated fine calculation in your system preferences - finesmode
11:04 newa34         while running fines.pl
11:04 cait           but by the fines cronjob
11:04 cait           that is not done by overdue_notices
11:03 newa34         writing fine on Patron Fine Tab
11:03 cait           you mean printing the fine? or writing the fine into the patron account?
11:02 cait           ah, maybe the bug then, look at the description
11:02 newa34         bt it wont let u calculate fine
11:02 cait           could be harmless, if your overdues look ok
11:02 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
11:02 cait           maybe related to bug 8378?
11:00 newa34         3.0806000
10:59 newa34         sorry 3.6.8
10:59 newa34         koha version3.8
10:59 newa34         Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl line 659. while running fines.pl
09:45 WaylonR        rangi, ^^^^^^^^
09:45 WaylonR        WaylonR is the 34th developer of Koha, currently working for Mandumah.com, a digital library archive. Hes currently porting koha 3.0 modifications to Koha 3.10. So far so good, with one patch on bugzilla already. Bug 9055.
09:44 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, ASSIGNED , Mandumah.com's multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod
09:44 wahanui        you are the 33rd developer of Koha, currently working for Mandumah.com, a digital library archive. Hes currently porting koha 3.0 modifications to Koha 3.10. So far so good, with one patch on bugzilla already. Bug 9055.
09:44 WaylonR        waylonr?
09:44 WaylonR        dgl-library is apparently, a volunteer at a Buddhist nunnery in the Himalayas, which runs Koha. Wow.
09:43 wahanui        i heard dgl-library was in India
09:43 WaylonR|Away   dgl-library?
08:42 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @mikromarc: "The Bibits AS Daily is out! http://t.co/cKnFtmVT â–¸ Top stories today via @kohails"
07:39 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.2°C (8:35 AM CET on November 11, 2012). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
07:39 cait           @wunder Konstanz
07:16 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8996 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , In result page items with negative notforloan are available
07:16 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7921 major, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Software error while placing order
07:16 jenkins_koha   * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8996: In result page items with negative notforloan are available
07:16 jenkins_koha   * fridolyn.somers: Bug 7921: Software error while placing order
07:16 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.8.x build #226: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/226/
07:08 newa34         yes gsdlkoha livecd is on 3.4.x version..we created a year ago
07:07 rangi          but Vimal's is the most up to date
07:07 rangi          there are at least 5 livecds out there
07:07 rangi          his one is out of date
07:05 newa34         Kyle Hall too have Live cd  i guess
07:04 rangi          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_LiveCD
07:03 newa34         ok ...so it different than previous... thanks it really helped me alot :)
07:02 rangi          then 1 hour from when it was issued
07:02 rangi          if you choose 1 hour
07:02 rangi          whatever it should be
07:02 newa34         and if hour?
07:02 rangi          if you choose day, it will be set to date 23:59
07:02 rangi          no
07:01 newa34         wht the unit to be selected?
07:01 huginn         newa34: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
07:01 newa34         @rangi m lil confuse abt Unit on Circulation.. u said we have to set 23.59
06:57 rangi          no problem
06:57 newa34         :) thank u @rangi
06:57 newa34         none jst quite busy with other stuff ....hope after my holidays i can go through ur suggestion
06:56 rangi          you have seen the official livecd built with the packages eh?
06:56 newa34         with debian packages.
06:55 newa34         well i have created my own manuals of installation and materials to help them.. i tried  it once last couple of months before bt i couldnt get it work....bt i will try it  hope i can get help from you guys too
06:55 rangi          to keep up to date
06:55 rangi          in the future (or use synaptic or whatever they want)
06:55 rangi          they can just apt-get upgrade
06:54 rangi          then if ppl install from the cd
06:54 rangi          those ones
06:54 wahanui        packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
06:54 rangi          packages?
06:54 newa34         u mean using apt source?
06:52 rangi          make sure you use the debian packages, then people will be able upgrade easily
06:52 newa34         to help some of the library science student ....
06:52 newa34         with many other older and newer library software on it.
06:51 newa34         not i think i will wait for 22/11/2012.. i am just trying it .as i have to create newer LIVE DVD(GSLDKoha Live DVD)  here
06:50 rangi          if you have already upgraded your production server, you could try that script on a copy of the db
06:49 rangi          you can upgrade fine
06:49 rangi          newa34: if you upgrade from pre 3.8.x to 3.8.6 it will happen, if you install new it wont, if you wait for 3.8.7 (out on 22/11/2012)
06:48 newa34         it tat mean if i installed newer ...not upgrade and rewrite the rules then it wont happen
06:48 rangi          http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob_plain;f=misc/maintenance/fix_accountlines_rmdupfines_bug8253.pl;h=36e46237864ef04fffc70e18b39e8ea9137be405;hb=32e12765d2e986b5863e90c704ceb63d7b98cb3b
06:47 rangi          (with days, the date due is now the day 23:59)
06:47 rangi          there is a script you can use to fix it up
06:46 rangi          newa34: that doesnt matter
06:46 rangi          ie makes a new one, instead of updates the old one
06:46 huginn         newa34: I've exhausted my database of quotes
06:46 newa34         @rangi but the unit i used it days not hour
06:46 rangi          the new ones do, so it cant match, so it doubles up
06:45 rangi          the problem is the old fiens dont have a time
06:45 huginn         04Bug 8253: critical, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , fix fine doubling, when upgrading from 3.6 to 3.8 (or later)
06:45 rangi          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8253
06:45 huginn         newa34: I've exhausted my database of quotes
06:45 newa34         @rangi aa ok ...
06:45 rangi          there is a fix for that will be in 3.8.7, but it wont help you now you have already upgraded to 3.8.6
06:44 newa34         (11/10/2012 -weekend here ...calender configured) so not calculate.
06:44 rangi          yep
06:44 newa34         in older version 11/09/2012 is overwritten by 11/11/2012 values
06:43 newa34         when i see the "Fine Tab of Patrons " the amount is added everyday after loan period. e.g {11/09/2012 	Biochemistry 10/19/2012 View item Biochemistry 		18.00 	18.00} & {11/11/2012 	Biochemistry 10/19/2012 00:00 View item Biochemistry 		19.00 	19.00 	}
06:43 rangi          do you have access to your db?
06:43 rangi          3.8.6 supports hourly loans, so there was a change, in that duedates are stored with times now as well as the date
06:41 rangi          you ran the database upgrade eh? because it was pretty important
06:41 newa34         fine charging  interval =1day after loan period of 15 days
06:39 newa34         yes i tried with 3.8.6 version....the same circualtion and fine rules are working fine on my 3.4.x version,
06:38 jenkins_koha   Starting build #226 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:37 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8988 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , item status uses authorized value description for intranet
06:37 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8805 major, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Add a biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl for NORMARC
06:37 jenkins_koha   * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8988: item status uses authorized value description for intranet
06:37 jenkins_koha   * magnus: Bug 8805 - Add a biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl for NORMARC
06:37 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.8.x build #225: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/225/
06:37 rangi          what did you set for fine charging interval?
06:37 rangi          and are you running 3.8.6 ?
06:36 rangi          newa34: hmm, that sounds like it might be your config, what do you ahve set up for the fine?
06:27 newa34         The fine is calculated but the previously fined fine is not overwritten by today's fine. It jst add up and the total amount becomes twice the day before
06:26 newa34         in my configuration
06:26 newa34         i jst installed latest version of Koha but i am having problem with "Fine" . Can anyone tell me its bug or something wrong?
06:24 dgl-library    hello @newa34
06:24 dgl-library    I would if I were with a library system instead of a volunteer with a Buddhist nunnery in the Himalayas
06:24 newa34         hello everyone
06:17 * rangi        wanders off
06:17 rangi          you could help fund the rewrite, once they are controlled by html/css then it would be dead simple to change things like font size, and line wrap
06:14 dgl-library    Our little library is now using Koha and we have always created the spine labels in Koha, but through this crazy method. So I really would like to find a solution.
06:12 dgl-library    oops, I meant @wizzyrea
06:12 dgl-library    Thanks for the perspective, rangi. But I'm sure #wizzyrea or some of the other super-users must have had some experience with this.
06:11 rangi          i do know they have never wanted to use the labels module
06:11 dgl-library    So your clients use the reports module to print spine labels?
06:11 rangi          probably the reports module
06:11 dgl-library    I'm talking about spine labels, not barcodes.
06:10 rangi          they all buy preprinted labels, which works out more cost effective
06:10 dgl-library    Wow! So where do the labels come from?
06:10 rangi          i dont use the label printer at all, neither do any of my clients, so I probably won't ever be working on it
06:09 dgl-library    Ouch. So what do you do? Right now I export to OpenOffice, and it's this crazy Rube Goldberg solution that no one else will want to follow.
06:08 rangi          i dont think you can, basically pdf is a horrible thing to work with, and the labels module is going to be rewritten sometime in the future
06:03 dgl-library    …how can I split the call numbers? Is it just about margins? And if so, is there a way to choose a fixed-width font, which will make it easier?
06:02 dgl-library    …I'm leaving the project soon, and I'm sure whoever takes over won't be able to do that, so…
06:02 dgl-library    …that never works. The call nums come out on a single line. So I have to go through a crazy export process to reformat the labels, and…
06:02 dgl-library    I want to export them as PDF with the call number broken up into 3 lines. But…
06:01 wizzyrea       shoot :)
06:00 dgl-library    in Koha 3.06.04.000.
06:00 dgl-library    I have a question about printing labels.
05:59 dgl-library    hi #koha
05:59 wizzyrea       haha that's cute
05:58 jenkins_koha   Starting build #225 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
05:44 rangi          and for the record, it was cvs, not svn :) we skipped svn went from cvs straight to git
05:43 rangi          Finlay and Pat were both numbered 8, so when that was fixed it was renumbered
05:42 rangi          http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=27ec47ba15978b82c75f792eb39cef9a43c1cf18
05:40 rangi          i fixed the number may 31 2011
05:40 rangi          there were 2 8s
05:31 WaylonR|Away   afk
05:30 WaylonR|Away   odd.
05:30 WaylonR|Away   ah.. in master.. right... ill look at it when i get back.
05:29 druthb         typos happen.  one or the other.     it's in docs
05:29 WaylonR|Away   wheres the history.txt file?
05:29 eythian_       quite
05:29 WaylonR|Away   okay.. thats wierd
05:29 druthb         June 2 2005	 Waylon Robertson becomes the 34th committer to Koha  #History.txt
05:29 WaylonR|Away   June 2 2005	Waylon Robertson becomes the 33rd committer to Koha [ http://koha-community.org/about/history/ ]
05:28 eythian_       been demoted eh ;)
05:28 WaylonR|Away   34th?
05:28 druthb         Ah!  there you are.  34th.
05:27 WaylonR|Away   this was way back in koha 2.something
05:26 druthb         Interesting.  the history.txt file makes no distinction--the "xth" committer to Koha.
05:26 eythian_       I'm talking history.txt :)
05:25 WaylonR|Away   im talking way back when we were dealing with svn
05:25 druthb         how else?
05:25 WaylonR|Away   oh.. your talking number of developers on git.
05:25 druthb         where are you checking?
05:24 druthb         yah.  If your patch gets pushed Right Now, you'd be the 195th.
05:24 * WaylonR|Away doublechecks.
05:24 WaylonR|Away   huh really?
05:24 * druthb       wonders how a newer developer got a number than she did.
05:24 eythian_       ;)
05:24 wahanui        OK, eythian_.
05:24 eythian_       wahanui: the 33rd developer of Koha is really Shaun Evans.
05:22 WaylonR        cool. okay, idling. back in about 4 hours.
05:21 wahanui        you are the 33rd developer of Koha, currently working for Mandumah.com, a digital library archive. Hes currently porting koha 3.0 modifications to Koha 3.10. So far so good, with one patch on bugzilla already. Bug 9055.
05:21 WaylonR        waylonr?
05:21 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, ASSIGNED , Mandumah.com's multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod
05:21 WaylonR        WaylonR is  the 33rd developer of Koha, currently working for Mandumah.com, a digital library archive. Hes currently porting koha 3.0 modifications to Koha 3.10. So far so good, with one patch on bugzilla already. Bug 9055.
05:20 druthb         :P
05:20 * eythian_     gives up
05:20 wahanui        eythian_: huh?
05:20 eythian_       wahanui: Waylon \gives me mind-worms
05:20 WaylonR        hahha
05:20 wahanui        eythian_: excuse me?
05:20 eythian_       wahanui: Waylon gives \me mind-worms
05:20 wahanui        eythian_: huh?
05:20 eythian_       wahanui: Waylon gives me mind-worms
05:20 wahanui        eythian_: sorry...
05:20 eythian_       wahanui: Waylon gives me mind-worms!
05:19 * druthb       nods.
05:19 wahanui        Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
05:19 druthb         wahanui: druthb?
05:19 WaylonR        god.. forgotten so easily.
05:19 wahanui        WaylonR: I forgot waylon
05:19 WaylonR        wahanui, forget Waylon
05:19 eythian_       http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=720583&q=hi <-- very tangentally related
05:19 wahanui        rumour has it Waylon is the 33rd developer of Koha, currently working for Mandumah.com, a digital library archive. Hes currently porting koha 3.0 modifications to Koha 3.10
05:19 WaylonR        Waylon?
05:19 WaylonR        huh.
05:19 WaylonR        WaylonR?
05:17 WaylonR        yes, im no longer a bugs.koha-community.org patch virgin!
05:16 eythian_       but if it's your first, worth asking explicitly
05:16 eythian_       usually all that's needed is a git send-email --to=koha-patches@... HEAD^
05:16 WaylonR        message sent to koha-devel too.
05:15 eythian_       WaylonR: if so, that's great (and what I'd expect from a good jquery plugin), worth testing though.
05:14 druthb         wizzyrea: Saw this last week, and thought of your lil Doctor fan:  http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2012/11/05/dalek-princess-would-make-for-most-adorable-extermination-ever-pics
05:07 WaylonR        I believe.
05:07 WaylonR        just converts to a multiselect optionbox.
05:06 WaylonR        eythian, the jquery dropdown code says it degrades gracefully.
04:55 eythian_       I used to do farm work in southland in the spring, as it was lambing time. Pretty much every year there was a solid dump of snow.
04:55 eythian_       not serious snow, but still hitting the ground
04:54 wizzyrea       ! wowie!
04:54 eythian_       (at least, last week)
04:54 eythian_       though it's been snowing still down south according to my parents :)
04:53 eythian_       It is. Basically alternating between nice and crappy on a day-to-day basis. Summer is more consistently "not too bad"
04:53 wizzyrea       no I'm just bad at reading :)
04:53 * druthb       was wondering if she'd forgotten to remove her invisibility cloak.  :)
04:53 eythian_       yeah, central heating never caught on here. It's not quite so necessary.
04:53 wizzyrea       if the weather in the last two weeks is typical spring weather, it's cool by me
04:52 wizzyrea       oh and hi druthb
04:52 wizzyrea       oops I cursed in the channel >.<
04:51 wizzyrea       with the energy and health concerns that brings
04:51 wizzyrea       so it's all central climate control all the time
04:51 wizzyrea       dunno, we've got (not quite as extreme) wind in kansas, and really shitty other weather. We get maybe, MAYBE 10-20 days a year when we can open the windows
04:49 eythian_       (and even then, 75% of the time it's a headwind downhill into town, and a tailwind uphill on the way back)
04:48 eythian_       It is, yes. Some people hate the wellington wind though. Personally I don't care unless I'm biking :)
04:48 wizzyrea       :)
04:48 wizzyrea       imo
04:47 wizzyrea       43C with no wind is a whole lot suckier
04:47 wizzyrea       dunno, i'm not a weather snob
04:47 wizzyrea       ok today was a bit drizzly and dreary
04:47 wizzyrea       I think it's ok?
04:47 wizzyrea       ok, regarding the wind
04:44 eythian_       managed to adjust to the light winds around these parts yet?
04:43 druthb         hi wizzyrea :)
04:39 wahanui        what's up, wizzyrea
04:39 wizzyrea       hi
04:39 eythian_       hi wizzyrea
04:38 eythian_       also, I haven't checked, but if you're putting JS on the OPAC make sure it degrades gracefully so that people with legacy browsers or no JS can still use it, or at least it doesn't break stuff.
04:37 eythian_       below that should be a good description of the patch, otherwise looking at git log is not nearly so useful
04:36 eythian_       also, git-bz understands that, which is nice
04:36 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1234 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, CLOSED WORKSFORME, Parameter: Bar Code # Prefix for book / patron searching
04:36 eythian_       WaylonR: not a rule, but a guideline: the first thing on the first line of a commit message should be "Bug 1234"
04:31 WaylonR        okay, time to go have shower. Comments are welcome. back in 30/60 minutes.
04:31 WaylonR        my first git patch.
04:30 WaylonR        whew!
04:30 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, ASSIGNED , Mandumah.com's multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod
04:30 WaylonR        jcamins_away, druthb bug 9055
04:04 WaylonR        cool
04:04 druthb         The good news, WaylonR, is that you don't really need to worry about it.  git add the jpg or whatever to the tree, then when you git format-patch your changes, it takes care of it.  It formats it as text for shipping back and forth, but you don't need to spend any time thinking about those matters.
03:57 jcamins_away   Or something like that.
03:56 WaylonR        ah.. MIME / uuencoded?
03:55 WaylonR        a git patch, isn't just a text file then?
03:54 jcamins_away   http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/gittutorial.html <-- this might help
03:52 jcamins_away   They have to be in the git patch.
03:51 WaylonR        okay.. so what do i do with the gif/png files then?
03:46 jcamins_away   No one will look at anything that isn't a git patch.
03:46 jcamins_away   You must submit a patch.
03:46 jcamins_away   No.
03:46 WaylonR        as this patch contains binaries (gif/png files) i create a tar.gz instead of a straight text file yes?
03:42 jcamins_away   No one cares.
03:42 jcamins_away   Choose one.
03:42 WaylonR        or do i create multiple bugs, and link them, and put the patch in one of those bugs?
03:41 WaylonR        okay, my mod touches on authentication, and searches and opac... so.. how do i choose just one category?
03:41 jcamins_away   ^^ see that page for an explanation of how patches get into Koha
03:40 wahanui        it has been said that patch workflow is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow
03:40 jcamins_away   patch workflow?
03:40 jcamins_away   All patches need to be submitted via Bugzilla.
03:38 WaylonR        so yea, ill send to the bug database first, to get some discussion on it.
03:33 WaylonR        thanks
03:33 * jcamins_away leaves again
03:33 jcamins_away   WaylonR: ^^ that explains how to do it
03:33 wahanui        git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
03:33 jcamins_away   git?
03:32 WaylonR        i need to create a patch file from a commit?
03:31 WaylonR        okay! now that ive got a commit fully rebased.. my mod is ready to be tested.. how do i go from here?
03:24 wahanui        php is http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
03:24 eythian_       wahanui: php
03:24 wahanui        php is like perl, not the other way around ;)
03:24 eythian_       wahanui: php
03:23 * druthb       is trying to join the multitudes who have coded a WordPress plugin.
02:21 wajasu         my subjects headings seem ok too.
02:21 wajasu         oooo  my searches are matching better with allt he foreign diacrtics :)
01:56 wajasu         anyway 29096 auth_header recs,  1414 biblio, and 29096 links
01:54 wajasu         maybe my having deleted the auth_headers, the biblios needed their dangling links cleaned.
01:53 wajasu         i ran a third time and it was 45105
01:53 wajasu         the second time it had 45105
01:53 wajasu         the 1st time when it crashed it had  "nnumber of heading linked: 16009"
01:52 wajasu         but i had run rebuild -b -r and rebuild -a -r  this time around
01:52 wajasu         i ran links_to_bibs again leaving the authoriteis in the auth_header file and it ran through with no errors.
01:51 wajasu         hmm.  i didn't have this problem a few weeks ago.
01:14 jcamins_away   wajasu: that error means that Zebra crashed.
00:38 wajasu         i think its from wa recent check_valid_auth   fix
00:38 wajasu         it ran fine though
00:37 wajasu         jcamins_away: when running link_bibs_to-authorities.pl  i got: Use of uninitialized value $authorized_heading in string eq at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Biblio.pm line 670.    oAuth error: Database unavailable (109) authorities Bib-1