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21:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #929: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/929/
20:44 Brooke cheers mate. Have a good saturday
20:43 rangi And now I'm off with the kids
20:42 rangi Brooke++
20:42 huginn Brooke: The operation succeeded.
20:42 Brooke @later tell nengard good I'm glad. I was worried.
20:41 rangi Yep only reason I broke my rule
20:40 Brooke we shall use the awesome power of manaakitanga to out signal their noise, sir.
20:39 rangi If that was my first reply and I was them I'd go look at evergreen instead
20:39 rangi Well they won't if trolly troll trolls keep hassling them
20:38 Brooke I'm just happy to see Turkish folks taking an interest :)
20:37 Brooke tsc, that's a good thing :)
20:37 rangi Answered the archives paul
20:36 * Brooke gives waha a smeck
20:36 wahanui which one is 3.6.x?
20:36 Brooke which one?
20:36 rangi Dang broke my own rule
20:29 Brooke :)
20:29 jcamins o/
20:28 JesseM \o
20:27 Brooke o/
19:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #929 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8826 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Initialization of hash triggers error log entries.
19:57 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries - Followup
19:57 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries.
19:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #928: SUCCESS in 1 hr 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/928/
19:18 rangi we really should fix the xml in the french manual so that stops failing
19:18 jenkins_koha Master_Packages: last build: 115 (1 hr 18 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Master_Packages/115/
19:18 jenkins_koha Koha_master(BUILDING: 1 hr 18 min and counting): last build: 927 (3 hr 5 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/927/
19:18 jenkins_koha Koha_Docs: last build: 223 (1 hr 6 min ago): FAILURE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/223/
19:18 jenkins_koha Koha_3.8.x: last build: 222 (1 hr 51 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/222/
19:18 jenkins_koha Koha_3.6.x: last build: 63 (10 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/63/
19:18 jenkins_koha Koha_3.4.x(disabled) : last build: 80 (8 mo 15 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/80/
19:18 jenkins_koha Koha_3.2.x(disabled) : last build: 36 (11 mo ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/36/
19:18 jenkins_koha Koha_3.10.x: last build: 6 (2 hr 21 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/6/
19:18 jenkins_koha 3_8_packages(BUILDING: 3 min 35 sec and counting): last build: 151 (1 day 8 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/3_8_packages/151/
19:18 jenkins_koha 3_6_Packages: last build: 21 (1 mo 19 days ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/3_6_Packages/21/
19:18 jenkins_koha status of all projects:
19:18 rangi !jenkins status
19:15 jcamins Heh. I hadn't noticed that there was no mention of postgres and solr.
19:15 oleonard Have a good weekend #koha
19:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8826 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Initialization of hash triggers error log entries.
19:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8804 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm
19:14 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries.
19:14 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8804 [Revised] Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm
19:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #222: SUCCESS in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/222/
19:12 rangi https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/governments-attack-cloud-computing
19:12 rangi But in addition, the government's approach should terrify any user of cloud computer services—not to mention the providers. The government maintains that Mr. Goodwin lost his property rights in his data by storing it on a cloud computing service.
19:05 rangi that worked
19:00 * rangi tries an install
18:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9001 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , zebraqueue_daemon is deprecated and must go
18:58 rangi yay bug 9001
18:56 libsysguy lol
18:56 * libsysguy shrugs
18:56 tcohen wtf did i attach?
18:56 libsysguy I already resolved it
18:56 libsysguy but it was no big deal
18:56 tcohen oh my
18:56 libsysguy umm the conflict was the number of tests to perform
18:55 rangi cool
18:55 jcamins Yeah, it makes sense.
18:55 tcohen maybe because of recent bug that was pushed that touches is_holiday?
18:55 rangi the patch does what it says, just checking its not a bad idea
18:54 libsysguy yeah it didn't apply due to merge conflicts
18:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8981 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Remove Nonpublic General Note from OPAC authorities display
18:54 rangi bug 8981
18:54 tcohen error aplying?
18:54 jcamins rangi: sure.
18:54 libsysguy tcohen probably should, when I applied I got an error
18:53 rangi jcamins: got a sec?
18:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8826 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Initialization of hash triggers error log entries.
18:53 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries - Followup
18:53 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries.
18:53 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Update Tags help files for 3.10
18:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8945 major, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , Koha 3.10 Help Files Update
18:53 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Tools Help Files
18:53 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Update lists help for 3.10
18:53 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Update suggestion help file for 3.10
18:53 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Serials Help Files for 3.10
18:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #6: SUCCESS in 1 hr 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/6/
18:50 rangi hmm thats a bit odd
18:48 oleonard I wonder why the OPAC has a publication date range search and the staff client doesn't
18:47 tcohen libsysguy, what do u think of a new bug for revisiting Calendar.t?
18:45 rangi heh
18:45 jcamins rangi: why draw the line at "limited trolling"?
18:44 rangi oh man, now he's trolling prospective support suppliers too
18:42 rangi northerly 35kmph gusting to 50kmph .. just the usual then
18:42 rangi ah ha
18:41 rangi i wish it had wind direction/speed
18:41 rangi hmm
18:41 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 03, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
18:41 rangi @wunder nzwn
18:40 rangi thats still a good one
18:40 rangi heh
18:40 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #68: "gmcharlt: which probably means that library schools ought to rename Cataloging 101 to Identification and Avoidance of Rabbit Holes 101" (added by wizzyrea_laptop at 08:17 PM, March 10, 2010)
18:40 gmcharlt @quote random
18:38 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 03, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
18:38 rangi @wunder nzwn
18:38 rangi im quite a fan of redmine
18:35 rangi heh
18:34 tcohen hmm, our redmine setup thinks koha has too much commits :-D
18:33 chris_n lol
18:32 wahanui it has been said that signing off is a great idea! or at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
18:32 nengard signing off
18:32 nengard okey dokey
18:32 rangi heh
18:32 oleonard nengard: That makes sense, but it's outside the scope of the bug I think
18:32 oleonard ...and it's very endearing rangi.
18:32 rangi (dont mind me im just talking to myself hehe)
18:31 rangi (that was with eythian, mtj, and me)
18:31 nengard a damaged item can't be put on hold - but it can be checked out - at least there is no rule against it - but because of the preference to not allow holds it says that damaged items are unavailable
18:31 rangi "The last meal I had with colleagues was with developers. I had forgotten how endearing they can be."
18:31 rangi awww
18:30 nengard oleonard, one problem
18:29 nengard i did just reindex
18:29 nengard oh! jcamins i like your explanation better
18:29 rangi you can see the new te takere library :)
18:28 jcamins nengard: it could also have been indexing delay.
18:28 nengard will try patch again
18:28 nengard I see it right now on master
18:28 nengard oleonard it's the latter
18:28 rangi http://freerangelibrarian.com/2012/11/02/the-fall-funnel-of-fun/
18:27 oleonard I am
18:27 nengard or maybe it's cause i'm just too tired to see straight
18:27 nengard oleonard are you a superlibrarian ? maybe it's cause i'm a superlibrarian
18:26 rangi sposta be meeting wizzyrea, trea and spud at the railway station to go to the pet expo today
18:25 rangi weather has returned to normal rainy and windy here
18:23 rangi need more coffee obviously
18:22 rangi heh
18:22 rangi @wunder nzwn
18:21 * gmcharlt kicks huggin
18:21 jcamins gmcharlt: just a moment too late!
18:21 gmcharlt @quote random
18:17 oleonard ...and the same in master
18:16 oleonard I don't find it to be the case. I'm looking at a record with one item, that item is damaged, AllowHoldsOnDamagedItems is off... I see "No holds allowed" instead of the holds link
18:15 nengard or one we just now found
18:15 nengard and i don't know if it's a reported bug
18:15 nengard but it's in your test plan
18:15 nengard it's a bug that's not related to the thing you fixed
18:15 nengard mind you that's the case in master too
18:14 nengard yes
18:14 oleonard nengard: AllowHoldsOnDamagedItems is turned off and you still see the holds link on the search results page?
18:12 nengard hehe
18:12 oleonard Heh, I guess I shouldn't be so thorough in my test plans ;)
18:11 nengard it did what i wanted, but didn't pass the tests you laid out
18:10 nengard i was pretty excited about it
18:10 nengard sorry oleonard
18:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8975 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , search results should say on order in staff client
18:10 oleonard *Sigh,* that was fast. Bug 8975.
18:08 tcohen at least we can now read which syspref case is handled by which branch
18:08 libsysguy okay, well I'll give it a shot
18:07 tcohen having multiple if hours... inside every branch)
18:07 tcohen (that's what the code does
18:07 tcohen and mixing branches is much worse
18:06 tcohen (days vs. hours)
18:06 tcohen as i see it if the code has big branches inside, it is better to call a specific function for that
18:05 libsysguy heh I am having to refactor my code. If yours doesn't work I'll take a poke at fixing the current code before I delete it :p
18:05 tcohen is it ok if you write another patch for this
18:04 libsysguy uh oh lol
18:04 tcohen (unnecesarilly)
18:04 tcohen i just didn't understand the code, that was too complex
18:04 tcohen look elliot, i really tried to fix this the way paul said
18:04 libsysguy :p
18:04 libsysguy I just didn't want to clutter up my nice clean qa space
18:03 libsysguy okay
18:03 tcohen obsolete it too
18:03 tcohen a patch that applies to 3.8
18:03 libsysguy oh okay, what is the middle one?
18:02 wahanui i guess the last one is the first one if you look backwards.
18:02 tcohen yes, the last one
18:02 tcohen the last one is a rewrite, as the first failed qa
18:02 libsysguy just the last one?
18:02 tcohen no
18:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8800 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , SpecifyDueDate && useDaysMode=Datedue wrong behaviour
18:02 libsysguy do I need all 3 patches to on bug 8800
18:02 libraryman tnx man
18:01 jcamins libraryman: I don't know how to use marcedit, sorry.
18:01 tcohen yup
18:01 libsysguy tcohen you around?
18:01 libraryman the stuff is trowin error
18:00 jenkins_koha Starting build #928 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:00 libraryman having issue convert my records in execl into marc
17:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Update Tags help files for 3.10
17:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8945 major, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , Koha 3.10 Help Files Update
17:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Tools Help Files
17:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Update lists help for 3.10
17:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Update suggestion help file for 3.10
17:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Serials Help Files for 3.10
17:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #927: SUCCESS in 1 hr 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/927/
17:34 libraryman tnx man!tis realy insightful
17:33 jcamins So, yes, if you convert the records to MARC you can just upload the records using the "Stage MARC Records" tool.
17:32 libraryman it is installd
17:32 libraryman k
17:32 jcamins Assuming you have Koha installed and set up, yes.
17:31 libraryman tnx pals
17:31 libraryman so all i need is the conversion
17:31 libraryman k
17:31 jcamins Yes, CSV is generally better to start with than Excel.
17:31 jcamins marcedit is a tool for editing MARC records. It can also convert spreadsheets to MARC. See http://people.oregonstate.edu/~reeset/marcedit/html/index.php
17:30 libraryman will csv help
17:30 libraryman how
17:30 jcamins libraryman: yes, if you convert them to MARC.
17:30 wahanui jcamins: I forgot marcedit
17:30 jcamins wahanui: forget marcedit
17:30 libraryman can i upload them all at once?
17:30 * Oak waves goodbye
17:29 wahanui marcedit is a great tool to help you with that. Or there are other Marc Editing tools you can use as well. well there ya have it from kf_a!
17:29 jcamins marcedit?
17:29 jcamins A lot of people use Marcedit for that.
17:29 jcamins You will need to convert them into MARC.
17:28 libraryman excel
17:28 jcamins *records
17:28 jcamins libraryman: what format are the books in?
17:27 libraryman need help want to upload my data(books)to koha
17:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #222 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:27 wahanui hey, libraryman
17:27 libraryman hi
17:22 libsysguy1 poo wahanui
17:21 libsysguy1 qa tools?
17:19 tcohen http://tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html
17:19 jcamins Hm. I shall experiment.
17:18 tcohen with a script that is provided in the texlive site (texlive > the new latex distribution, superseding tetex)
17:17 tcohen which is just straightforwrd
17:17 tcohen for my thesis i had to (conveniently) install by hand the 2012 version
17:17 jcamins I figured it was so stable that they'd just stopped working on it. :P
17:17 tcohen but quantal has 2012 already so...
17:17 jcamins Yeah, 2009 is what I have.
17:17 tcohen (precise comes with 2009 version)
17:16 tcohen debian has had problems packaging texlive (and hence ubuntu)
17:15 jcamins New version of LaTeX
17:15 jcamins Ooh!
17:15 jcamins There's a new version?
17:15 jcamins tcohen: lambda kills kittens, and pdflatex isn't fond of unicode either.
17:14 tcohen r u using texlive 2012?
17:13 tcohen what's the problem with LaTeX?
16:59 jcamins They're all more evil. I meant I'm trying to figure out which is _least_ evil.
16:58 jcamins I am trying to decide, which of these is more evil: images and UTF-8 in LaTeX, indexes in XSL-FO, or documentation in InDesign.
16:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #6 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:55 jcamins jeff: hehe. Yup. That's exactly where I am.
16:55 jeff jcamins: Now it is time to play a game I like to call "STABLE? OR DEAD?"
16:54 jeff jcamins: the wikipedia Talk page for XSL Formatting Objects has two requests for information on the standard's future dating back to 2008, but the Apache FOP project did have a 1.1 release within the last two weeks.
16:45 gaetan_B bye
16:37 jcamins Oh, XSL-FO. Are you a standard still trying to find your place, or are you just DOA?
16:33 * jcamins revisits XSL-FO.
16:31 oleonard :)
16:31 jcamins oleonard: we're talking about _me_.
16:30 oleonard It is if you're willing to relinquish control over how it looks
16:30 jcamins And when I say "printer-friendly" what I really mean is "I can't use HTML instead of LaTeX, no matter how much I want to be lazy, can I?"
16:27 jcamins HTML isn't printer-friendly no matter what, is it?
16:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries - Followup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5011479de33e56aa27c74fd60befe4e4963ce013> / Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf4a7bd65c8529b5eaf3cbea6d7111bef634cc22>
16:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #927 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:08 mtj hmm not sure, i qa-ed some acq bugs 2 days ago on master, and the budgets/funds setup worked ok for me, on a fresh db
16:08 jcamins Oh, there's another bug that passed QA.
16:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8945' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=369c5382a48ab2faab1f49e710681681e718ab40> / Bug 8945: Update Tags help files for 3.10 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=be0f16aaac1a5dd2c18c0ba18d388de67fe1c467> / Bug 8945: Tools Help Files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c075970daa27d770ec807bad1467d25761
16:04 mtj i googled, and spotted khall had the same problem as me...
16:04 jcamins Maybe the problem is that the budget was created by the database user.
16:03 jcamins Humbug.
16:03 mtj yep
16:03 mtj switching to a proper user, fixed that problem, for me
16:03 jcamins But when you logged in as a regular user it worked?
16:03 mtj i was doing some acq testing as kohaadmin, and got that similar error… :/
16:02 mtj no
16:02 jcamins No, should I be?
16:02 mtj are you testing using the kohaadmin/db user?
16:02 jcamins mtj: do you have a solution? :)
16:02 mtj jcamins, i spotted yr acq/budgets problems before…
16:00 reiveune bye
15:58 oleonard Here's me inside Search.pm trying to get a working patch: http://no-way-out.tumblr.com/post/34633927605/decisions-decisions
15:57 * oleonard emerges safely from Search.pm with what he hopes is a working patch
15:43 mtompset Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha. Bye.
15:30 oleonard Thanks nengard
15:29 nengard oleonard, manual updated regarding clicking tags: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.10/en/tools.html#tagsmoderation
15:28 mveron oleonard: I will test it.
15:25 oleonard The include datatables-strings.inc should pass the translatable strings to the script. I wonder if the problem is that stray </script> at line 9 of quotes.tt?
15:20 mveron Can anybody confirm for other languages?
15:19 mveron It seems that parts of 'Edit quotes for QOTD feature' is not translatable. In German I get things like "Showing 1 to 4 of 4 entries". Seems to be related to koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/js/datatables.js
15:02 paul_p jcamins done
14:59 jcamins That would be appreciated.
14:59 paul_p jcamins but if you want my "passed QA" official statement, I can add it on the bug ;-)
14:59 jcamins Okay, I will review them in a bit.
14:59 paul_p jcamins (they're all html only, online help only, so don't wait for "passed QA"
14:59 jcamins paul_p: they need to be QAed.
14:58 huginn 04Bug 8945: major, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Signed Off , Koha 3.10 Help Files Update
14:58 paul_p jcamins I agreed with nicole that I could push for 3.10 patches related to online documentation, despite String Freeze. So, could you push patches she submitted on bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8945 ?
14:57 jcamins paul_p: I am.
14:57 paul_p jcamins about ?
14:56 oleonard I'm just working through the logic of if not lost, not withdrawn, not damaged, etc.
14:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8975 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , search results should say on order in staff client
14:55 oleonard Bug 8975 requires that something with notforloan < 0 be both categorized as unavailable *and* set the $can_place_holds variable to 1
14:53 jcamins What are you working on?
14:53 oleonard *Sigh* It's for the good of the cause.
14:53 jcamins oleonard: I could've told you that was a bad idea.
14:52 oleonard Ugh, I'm in Search.pm and my brain hurts now!
14:38 jcamins You mean the put the names in the correct order?
14:37 mtompset It's gets uglier on the other example, they change the order of first name and last name.
14:37 jcamins But the only way to be sure is to have them correct it.
14:37 jcamins Yeah, that'd be my guess as well.
14:36 mtompset The problem is there's no nice way to clean that programmatically.
14:36 mtompset My guess is two... look at the second $a on the 700 and the 100$a... two individual names, and the first one merges them.
14:32 jcamins Especially not programmatically.
14:31 jcamins However, based on that information, you have no way of knowing whether that's one person or two.
14:31 jcamins First author goes in 100, second author goes in 700.
14:31 jcamins Then they have to decide that.
14:30 mtompset What if it was co-authored?
14:30 jcamins Yes. They have to figure out who wrote the book.
14:30 mtompset Okay... so pass them the MRK file to clean up.
14:29 jcamins I'd get them to recatalog that record, since it's clearly wrong but what they meant is unclear.
14:28 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "How would you resolve these kinds of problems?" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/260
14:27 mtompset Okay... next question... I put some don't generate blank field logic in my code, and now there are only "three" problem records.
14:19 mtompset But it can be used for a very elementary library catalogue.
14:18 mtompset And was more intended for dictionary development.
14:18 mtompset But it is available for download for free.
14:18 mtompset I can't remember which is newer.
14:18 mtompset or is it shoebox now...
14:18 mtompset It's used in an application called toolbox.
14:17 mtompset The tags at the front of the line map to various fields/subfields.
14:17 jcamins Oh, yeah, I've seen those.
14:17 mtompset Each MARC record is delimited like a MRK file, a blank line.
14:16 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Sample dummy record of SFM file" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/259
14:16 wahanui i heard paste was found at http://paste.koha-community.org
14:16 mtompset paste?
14:15 jcamins Never heard of them.
14:15 mtompset Well, not really bizzare, just I would not have expected SFM files.
14:14 jcamins Ah.
14:14 mtompset And they have their library files in yet another bizarre format.
14:14 mtompset We're working in Asia, so we are now adding branches in another country now.
14:13 mtompset No, this is the same project... It just keeps growing.
14:13 jcamins mtompset: I guess you found another library-related posting?
14:10 jcamins That means no repeating $a. You have to repeat the entire field.
14:10 jcamins In MARC, 1xx, 6xx, 7xx, and some 8xx fields are controlled.
14:10 jeff 700 is repeatable, 700$a is not.
14:10 mtompset Well, neither is 100$a.
14:10 jcamins 7xx fields are controlled.
14:10 jcamins No, of course not.
14:09 mtompset Oh shoot! That sucks... I thought 700$a was repeatable.
14:09 mtompset Now to run the MarcEdit validation...
14:08 mtompset YES!
14:07 gmcharlt so *that's* what it feels like when gdb attches to one's brain ;)
14:06 mtompset Finally... I knew asking would help me debug. :)
14:05 mtompset s vs. no s.
14:05 mtompset Oh shoot... typo on my part... that explains it.
14:04 jcamins mtompset: yes it does. my $field = $record->field('245').
14:03 mtompset fields() does, but field('245') doesn't.
14:03 gmcharlt mtompset: it does in fact return a MARC::Field object (or list of them, in list context)
14:03 mtompset Is there a better way?
14:02 mtompset I think fields() does, but then I have to find the right one.
14:02 mtompset That doesn't return a MARC::Field.
14:02 jcamins mtompset: http://search.cpan.org/~gmcharlt/MARC-Record-2.0.3/lib/MARC/Record.pm#field(_tagspec(s)_)
14:01 mtompset I don't see a function which returns a MARC::Field object in MARC::Record.
14:01 mtompset Okay... I've done that... but how do I update the existing one?
14:00 jcamins Check if a 245 exists before creating a new one?
13:59 mtompset I have a coding question... I have a file with markers that map relatively easily to MARC fields and subfields... how do I actually build a MARC::Record in a disjointed manner? That is, one marker is 245$a, but the next line is 245$b. How do I get them on the same 245 field?
13:58 mtompset Greetings, jcamins and oleonard.
13:57 jcamins Maybe.
13:57 jcamins Well, if people had their own templates they might not have been affected.
13:56 oleonard I don't think we need to warn anyone about removing them since they can't have been working for that log
13:55 oleonard Oh, even further back. So these custom RSS feeds have been broken since 3.4
13:55 jcamins 3.4.
13:55 oleonard 3.6 was the first Template::Toolkit version wasn't it?
13:54 jcamins Probably.
13:53 oleonard Must be my don't-track-me-bro settings in my browser
13:52 jcamins oleonard: it shows up and works for me.
13:51 oleonard Custom Google search of the manual broken? I don't see the form on http://koha-community.org/documentation/
13:34 oleonard Ah, I missed the add the file step
13:33 jcamins oleonard: make the change, add the file, and then use git commit --amend -s
13:32 oleonard I forget... If I want to sign off on something and sneakily include a tiny typo fix how should I do it?
13:25 oleonard These are the bugs from paul_p's list for 3.10
13:24 oleonard http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=8919%208832%208378%208945%208800%208746%204381%208918%208896%208369%207358&list_id=45371
13:24 oleonard Neat, I didn't know you could pass an arbitrary set of bug numbers to Bugzilla and get a nice list
13:18 oleonard khall around?
13:05 jcamins I need some commit hooks.
12:58 * libsysguy now remembers what he was going to ask chris_n
12:50 jcamins *sense
12:50 jcamins Hm. That makes sesne.
12:50 oleonard "database administrator login?"
12:49 oleonard "MySQL user" more accurate but not less confusing?
12:49 jcamins Possibly, but I'm not sure what it is.
12:48 oleonard "admin login" seems ambiguous. I wonder if there's a better way of saying that.
12:46 jcamins oleonard: the text change is in the patch I signed off on.
12:45 oleonard I'd be happy to submit a revised patch for 9008 if that would help. jcamins, you suggest a text change?
12:45 oleonard congrats paul_p
12:45 jcamins Yay!
12:45 jcamins paul_p: not unless oleonard is revising the patch for bug 9008.
12:44 * paul_p has a confirmation that he is invited for a conference in New Delhi in february, to talk about Koha. /me happy !!!
12:44 * paul_p confused... jcamins weren't you talking to oleonard in fact when you said " paul_p: if you revise that patch, you may want to use my changed text."
12:43 jcamins oleonard found some problems with the markup.
12:43 oleonard paul_p: I noticed a typo
12:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9008 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Failed QA , Warn if librarian logged-in with mysql/admin account
12:43 jcamins paul_p: bug 9008
12:42 wahanui somebody said jcamins was too young to be the President of the United States. Which is a pity, because he had the votes at the 3.12 election.
12:42 paul_p jcamins ???
12:41 jcamins paul_p: if you revise that patch, you may want to use my changed text.
12:36 libsysguy poor chris_n, he was a good fellow
12:36 * chris_n heads back to the world of elusive voip problems
12:35 libsysguy ^^ same
12:35 * chris_n tends to grab the hammer too quickly sometimes
12:34 chris_n probably frustration with very broken code or some such
12:34 chris_n there was a reason I did not do that, but I cannot recall atm :)
12:34 chris_n right
12:33 jcamins chris_n: as a debug tool in the future, it is possible to pass HTTP arguments on the command line: ./script.pl arg=whatever
12:33 * chris_n hopes to get back to Koha in Jan 2013
12:33 chris_n getopts would be better for the scripts that are cli useful
12:33 chris_n its safe to remove it and/or replace it where necessary
12:33 paul_p chris_n yep, seen your comment. And jcamins has signed off -;)
12:32 chris_n jcamins paul_p: ARGV was a quick and dirty debug tool I used early in dev of the label stuff
12:31 * jcamins delegates this question to cait, for when she gets home from her vacation.
12:31 * jcamins does.
12:30 oleonard I don't know how one checks to see if a translation is incomplete or whether you're seeing something which cannot be translated
12:29 jcamins Same issue in Bokmal.
12:29 jcamins I guess that could be.
12:29 oleonard Incomplete translation?
12:29 jcamins http://screencast.com/t/DO5R6z2a5lai
12:28 oleonard So where are you seeing untranslated headings jcamins ?
12:27 oleonard And in the OPAC the template lacks the [% facets_loo.type_label %] line
12:27 libsysguy sounds like a bandaid gone bad
12:26 oleonard ...is followed by [% IF ( facets_loo.type_label_Authors ) %]Authors[% END %] etc.
12:26 oleonard This line: [% facets_loo.type_label %]
12:26 oleonard Actually now I'm confused about it
12:25 oleonard Wait, that's not entirely true
12:24 jcamins Yuck.
12:24 jcamins oleonard: ah.
12:24 oleonard jcamins: The headings don't come from the template, they come from the script: [% facets_loo.type_label %]
12:20 jcamins Is there a reason that the headings on the facets aren't translated?
12:19 oleonard Hi #koha
12:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8490 blocker, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Error when adding label layout under plack
12:13 jcamins Okay, chris_n confirms your fix on bug 8490 is safe.
12:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9005 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Changing sysprefs requires restart under Plack
12:09 jcamins paul_p: a signoff on bug 9005 would be much appreciated. The way I can't just activate a language drives me nuts.
12:08 jcamins I did. I deleted it with the plan to go back and create a new active budget, in the hopes that maybe it would help.
12:07 paul_p jcamins = about the acquisition, do you have a budget that is ACTIVE ?
12:04 jcamins paul_p: https://github.com/jcamins/git-bz
11:59 jcamins I can't test bug 8892, since no matter what I do I can't get the acquisitions module to stop telling me to create a budget, but I can test the other two.
11:57 paul_p jcamins = of course no !!!
11:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8949 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Trying to view help on a page without any help results in a Perl error
11:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8997 major, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Dead code in C4/Language causing useless SQL queries
11:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8892 major, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Plack variable scoping in basket.pl
11:57 jcamins paul_p: would you object if I corrected the grammar of your warning?
11:57 paul_p bug 8892, bug 8997, bug 8949, need signoff !
11:55 * paul_p just finished the tour of all bugs that have 'Plack' somewhere !
11:55 jcamins paul_p: I'm inclined to agree with you, but if that's actually used from the command line, we can suggest erasing ARGV.
11:55 paul_p jcamins = about the auto-signoff to git-bz, please share this with us !!!
11:54 paul_p jcamins = yep, but OTOH, I don't see why we should keep $ARGV, so, it's a better fix
11:54 jcamins Erase $ARGV in your psgi.
11:54 jcamins paul_p: there's actually another workaround, I think.
11:53 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
11:53 jcamins @later tell chris_n Could you please take a look at bug 8490? I can test and sign off, if you can confirm that the change is reasonable.
11:44 * jcamins adds an auto-signoff switch to git-bz for the release process.
11:37 magnuse ? definitely middle of the day :-)
11:36 paul_p magnuse = for you is it middle of the day or middle of the night ? :D :D
11:35 magnuse good middle-of-the-day to you too paul_p :-)
11:35 paul_p good morning jcamins & magnuse & others (well, for magnus & me it's no more the morning ;-) )
11:03 magnuse ah hah
11:02 jcamins magnuse: American Numismatic Society. Library -> American Numismatic Society
10:57 * cait waves back
10:57 * magnuse waves to cait
10:55 * magnuse wonders what an "Immediate parent body" is...
10:48 magnuse yay
10:47 jcamins Oh, yeah. We went for a walk a few days ago.
10:46 magnuse have you ventured outside yet?
10:45 magnuse kia ora jcamins
10:45 jcamins Good morning, #koha.
10:25 magnuse oops, sorry about that Maxie...
10:16 Maxie2012 I just can't get to my intranet site to access the Web Installer
10:15 Maxie2012 seriously....can anyone out there help?
09:55 Maxie2012 that's what I meant by I can't get in...
09:55 Maxie2012 I've been trying for about an hour....is there a command I can key in from the command line?
09:54 Maxie2012 okay...I know this is really a dumb question, but how do I visit the intranet?
09:53 Maxie2012 when I go to http://localhost:8080/ it says unable to load page
09:52 magnuse Maxie2012: what you see on http://localhost is the opac, but you need to visit the intranet and run through the webinstaller before you can actually see the opac
09:50 magnuse how about http://localhost:8080/
09:50 magnuse woohoo, that means it's mostly working!
09:48 Maxie2012 went to http://localhost and it says SYSTEM MAINENANCE The Koha online catalogue is offline for system maintenance
09:44 Maxie2012 in the documentation.....Koha 3.8 on Debian Squeeze
09:42 Oak and http://localhost:8080
09:42 Oak what does http://localhost in your browser say?
09:41 Oak Maxie2012, where does it say that?
09:41 Maxie2012 can anyone help explain what it means when it says you should be able to see something...
09:30 Maxie2012 As such, I don't even know if the installation was successful...
09:30 Maxie2012 well...I was hoping someone here could give me some clue as to what I should be looking for and where....unfortunately, I'm also not familiar with Linux
09:27 wahanui help is at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help.
09:27 Maxie2012 help....!
09:27 Maxie2012 I'm STUCK!! I don't know how to get in!
09:27 Maxie2012 I entered the command to create the Koha instance and reached the part that says "Once done you should be able to see something at http://kohaadmin/ and http://koha/ from your desktop machine."
09:25 magnuse well done Maxie2012!
09:25 Maxie2012 I used the koha-common package
09:23 Maxie2012 I have just managed to install the Koha 3.8 package on Debian Squeeze following the instructions from a link that was recommended i.e. http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze
09:20 Maxie2012 Hello!
08:59 magnuse a day or two
08:59 magnuse should be shortly before the release, i think?
08:58 cait hi magnuse :)
08:58 cait shortly before release I would guess
08:58 Oak hmm
08:58 cait I am not sure
08:58 * magnuse waves to cait
08:58 mveron cait: OK, I will do. When ist deadline for translations?
08:57 Oak so how is marcus?
08:57 cait but you might wan to test de-ch too... so maybe good to start that
08:56 cait mveron: don't know about changes, I think we might find some things to correct while testing
08:53 mveron I see that de-DE is completely translated, will there be any changes? Otherwise I teake it now for de-CH...
08:51 mveron Hi cait-m :-)
08:51 cait-m hi mveron
08:50 mveron Good morning #koha
08:48 * cait-m waves
08:26 mtompset A little late for a halloween related joke, oh well. :)
08:26 mtompset Ooo... mode +o, she has the power. Does that make wizzyrea She-ra? ;)
08:12 gaetan_B hello
08:01 * magnuse waves to wizzyrea
07:50 magnuse kia ora!
07:50 reiveune hi :)
07:49 mtompset Oops... greetings, magnuse. bonjour, reiveune. :)
07:42 wahanui bonjour, reiveune
07:42 reiveune hello
07:38 magnuse yay!
07:38 magnuse Oak
07:37 Oak magnuse
07:27 wahanui kf should be writing slides
07:27 magnuse slides?
07:17 * magnuse waves
06:46 mtompset cait must be commuting and/or having lousy connectivity today.
06:46 francharb hi Oak, mtompset
06:46 mtompset Greetings, francharb.
06:45 Oak morning francharb
06:45 Oak hello mtompset :)
06:13 francharb good morning #koha
06:08 mtompset Welcome to a timezone closer to the Philippines, wizzyrea. ;)
06:08 mtompset greetings, Oak and wizzyrea.
06:07 mtompset I think I saw nengard on yesterday.
06:03 Oak i did not even know about the whole thing... as I don't watch tv, and well, don't read newspaper either. bad habit i know.
06:02 Oak Brooke said we should worry about Nicole not her.
06:00 Oak oh good
06:00 wizzyrea oh yes, she's fine and well - I think they were supposed to get power back tonight
06:00 Oak ah okay. just wondering if nengard is okay.
05:59 wizzyrea oak - not at the moment... why for?
05:59 Oak wizzyrea, you live in US right?
05:56 * Oak waves
01:11 mtompset true enough.
01:10 eythian well, there's documented values, but aside from the size part, there's probably an excuse for having anything
01:09 mtompset Against valid value ranges for each position?
01:09 mtompset Against validate value ranges for each position?
01:08 eythian mtompset: validate against what?
01:08 eythian https://twitter.com/adzebill/status/264171157656305664/photo/1
00:59 wahanui The MARC specs live at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ - abandon hope all ye who enter here.
00:59 mtompset MARC?
00:59 mtompset MARC?\
00:58 mtompset Koha doesn't validate the LDR field?
00:57 eythian oh, just grab the LDR from a stereotypical record and slap it in.
00:55 mtompset I mean field... ARG, I keep messing up records and fields with respect to MARC files.
00:54 mtompset I have data in SFM format, which is pretty easy to map to MARC, but there's no LDR record to map. So, can I import it without an LDR record?
00:54 wizzyrea oh my!
00:48 wahanui Since Wed Sep 26 23:44:47 2012, there have been 1396 modifications and 396 questions. I have been awake for 36 days, 1 hour, 3 minutes, 24 seconds this session, and currently reference 22881 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode.
00:48 eythian wahanui: status
00:47 wizzyrea "thingy" must be a technical term
00:47 rangi if you want an accurate one
00:47 rangi you use the dropdown thingy
00:47 wizzyrea whether that's right or not
00:47 eythian that's what I'd expect
00:47 rangi its not even slightly accurate
00:47 wizzyrea i think it gives every item the same LDR
00:47 wizzyrea i'm not sure, however, that its entirely accurate - how could it be you haven't specified anything about the item yet?
00:46 wizzyrea it does
00:44 eythian unless you mean in the Koha cataloguing interface, where I think it just happens when you click, doesn't it?
00:44 eythian the record size is about the only bit that can be.
00:44 eythian not in a meaningful way, it requires semantic information
00:43 eythian surely you jest :)
00:43 mtompset I was wondering if anyone might know if there is a way to auto-magically generate the LDR records in a MARC file.
00:42 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
00:40 wizzyrea ohhhh
00:40 cait and it's still vacation + a holiday today in germany
00:39 wizzyrea sems logical
00:39 cait see :)
00:39 wahanui cait: divide-by-zero error
00:39 wahanui wizzyrea: kernel panic: write-only-memory (/dev/wom0) capacity exceeded.
00:39 cait excuse?
00:39 wizzyrea excuse?
00:39 huginn wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
00:39 wizzyrea @excuse
00:39 * wizzyrea wonders why cait isn't in bed.
00:39 kathryn I means sways
00:38 cait ok :)
00:38 cait lol
00:38 * kathryn waves back and bobs along
00:38 wizzyrea i don't know how it goes but it's pretty and melodic.
00:38 cait oh?
00:38 * wizzyrea sings the magic cait greeting song
00:38 * cait waves to kathryn and wizzyrea :)
00:35 wizzyrea I am sure it will be
00:35 kathryn oh wizzyrea....next time it will be you
00:34 wizzyrea lol kathryn
00:22 kathryn well not today.
00:22 kathryn no he's not
00:22 wahanui ...but eythian is a good influence or located somewhere....
00:22 kathryn wahanui eythian is a pest
00:21 wahanui OK, eythian.
00:21 eythian wahanui: kathryn is on the left of https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ofqX3S0SPDo/UGIT5sSfE6I/AAAAAAAATng/bQYU5Chf6Qc/s720/ROSS9901.JPG