Time  Nick           Message
00:00 rangi          http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/10/28/nyregion/hurricane-sandy.html
00:04 eythian        darn it, got a little sunburnt at lunch
00:06 ibeardslee     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXMU2qwCVag#! .. LIVE Hurricane Sandy Coverage - The Weather Channel
00:57 jcamins_away   As of right now, the weather here is fairly quiet. We're all alive and unharmed.
00:57 * jcamins_away leaves again.
00:58 rangi          good to hear, some amazing photos of flooding
00:58 rangi          mostly atlantic city and manhattan
00:59 eythian        http://i.imgur.com/PF5SK.png
01:00 rangi          heh
01:23 drojf          from the sound of that they are all underwater already. the design of the player isn't helping either http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=cwp&ctid=1855
01:37 Zeki           Hi
01:37 wahanui        hola, Zeki
01:38 Zeki           Hi Wahanui,
01:39 Zeki           I have a problem with "Stage MARC records for import". I cannot import any MARC records
01:39 Zeki           My koha installation is new one
01:39 Zeki           version 3.8.6 on Ubuntu server
01:39 Zeki           everything looks fine
01:41 Zeki           I can add(import) any catalog (book)from Z39.50 Search
01:42 Zeki           however when I want to use "Stage MARC records for import" tools I cant import anything
01:42 Zeki           Stage MARC records for import does nothing
01:42 Zeki           no progress bar
01:43 Zeki           so anyone can tell me what can be problem with my Koha?
01:45 Zeki           any expert around ?
01:46 eythian        http://www.wimp.com/hurricanehorse/
01:47 rangi          hey wizzyrea
01:47 wahanui        wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans.
01:47 * wizzyrea     giggles
01:47 wizzyrea       hi there
01:47 rangi          Zeki: hmm no sorry, i haven't seen that problem before
01:48 rangi          Zeki: you could try the bulkmarcimport script from the command line
01:48 Zeki           yeah
01:48 eythian        hi wizzyrea, slept in today?
01:49 wizzyrea       hmm a little bit, but we were down in central by 10ish for an appointment :)
01:49 eythian        ah right
01:49 rangi          your pc just arrived
01:49 wizzyrea       oooOOOooo
01:49 eythian        like, literally just then
01:49 wizzyrea       haha!
01:50 Zeki           can I ask you a few more things,  Rangi?
01:50 rangi          Zeki: misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl is where it lives
01:53 Zeki           thanks for that
01:54 Zeki           I want to check with you about "System preferences" setting
01:54 Zeki           is there any place related "Stage MARC records for import" in "System preferences" setting?
01:55 Zeki           because I am very new in Koha
01:55 Zeki           so Maybe I didnt do right setting
01:55 rangi          only match points and that wouldnt affect the behaviour you are seeing
01:57 Zeki           maybe wrong setting does not allow me to use "Stage MARC records for import" tools to import MARC records
01:57 rangi          no
02:01 Zeki           I am using default setting
02:01 eythian        then it should work fine. You should have a look in your logs, they may tell you what is going wrong.
02:02 Zeki           While Web Installar I choose all the optional setting inculinding saple data, marc framework etc..
02:07 Zeki           which part of logs
02:09 Zeki           because when I check log viewer under tools
02:09 Zeki           I dont see any error related Stage MARC records for import
02:10 Zeki           so is there any other place to check logs beside "log viwer under tools?
02:11 eythian        Zeki: the system logs in /var/log/koha
02:18 Zeki           Ethian,
02:19 Zeki           [Tue Oct 30 10:09:52 2012] [error] [client] [Tue Oct 30 10:09:52 2012] viewlog.pl: Problem = a value of 1 has been passed to param without key at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Templates.pm line 187., referer:
02:20 Zeki           is showing this error log only for today?
02:20 Zeki           I tried a few times "Stage MARC records for import" tools
02:21 eythian        It has a datestamp on the left of the log message, you can use that to see what date the error was generated, and hence what your log file contains.
02:21 Zeki           but looks there are not any log about it
02:22 Zeki           first I check the log I found last log
02:22 Zeki           then I went to tools "Stage MARC records for import" and do import
02:23 Zeki           and then I check the logs
02:23 Zeki           but no new line in log file
02:24 eythian        OK. I'm not sure then.
02:25 Zeki           look like not adding error inside log file
02:25 Zeki           yeah
02:25 Zeki           is there any other place i can check it
02:26 Zeki           related "Stage MARC records for import"
02:26 tcohen         @query solr
02:26 huginn         tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , User should be able to determine the number of search results per page (OPAC)
02:26 huginn         tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7174 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Authentication rewriting
02:26 huginn         tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7013 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, adrien.saurat, In Discussion , required format is not enforced for authorized values
02:26 eythian        Zeki: not really
02:26 huginn         tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8636 critical, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Some dependencies are not listed by the installer
02:26 huginn         tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup
02:32 Zeki           Eythian, do you know any running koha demo site that I can try "Stage MARC records for import"?
02:32 Zeki           becuase I found these web sites" http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Demo_Databases"
02:33 eythian        well try one of them then
02:33 Zeki           I tried them but no luck
02:33 rangi          are you sure your file is marcdata?
02:33 eythian        what browser are you using?
02:33 Zeki           same things
02:33 eythian        also that, yes
02:33 Zeki           cannot import
02:33 Zeki           I use IE
02:33 rangi          marcdump filename | less
02:33 eythian        don't use IE
02:34 eythian        it is a stupid and bad browser
02:34 rangi          try firefox or chrome
02:34 Zeki           yeah
02:36 Brooke         o/
02:37 rangi          hi Brooke
02:37 Brooke         howdy
02:38 * Brooke       posits that maybe, just maybe, the sokdam about rain wasn't what to embroider after all...
02:39 Zeki           Thank you so much  Rangi,
02:39 Brooke         anyone see nengard?
02:39 Zeki           the problem related IE
02:39 Brooke         @seen nengard
02:40 huginn         Brooke: nengard was last seen in #koha 9 hours, 27 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <nengard> thanks oleonard
02:40 rangi          Brooke: earlier, they have no power at the moment tho, so wont see them again til that is back on
02:40 Brooke         harrumph
02:40 Zeki           Google Chrome is fine
02:40 Zeki           Stage MARC records for import is working
02:40 Zeki           now
02:40 Zeki           can important MARC Records
02:41 Zeki           can import MARC Records
02:41 eythian        Zeki: and tell your friends to not use IE.
02:42 Zeki           sure
02:43 Zeki           It is so strange IE browser problem
02:44 eythian        It's not really, IE is not a good browser.
02:44 Zeki           I thought it was related my koha setting
02:44 eythian        Koha doesn't claim that it's supported in the staff client because it's too buggy to be reliable.
02:44 Zeki           I didnt think IE can cause this type problem.
02:46 Zeki           Thank Eythian
02:46 eythian        It causes many problems.
02:47 Zeki           yeah
02:47 ibeardslee     two irc channels on two different servers with IE problems
02:47 Brooke         it must be an IRC problem. ;)
02:48 tcohen         rangi, do u remeber what release would include solr indexing (at least experimental)?
02:49 rangi          3.10
02:52 Zeki           Thanks you so much for now
02:52 Zeki           I need to leave and import some MARC record my koha now
02:53 Brooke         good luck
02:53 Zeki           :)
02:53 Zeki           thanks
02:57 jcamins_away   tcohen: if you use solr you can't use authorities at all.
02:57 jcamins_away   Still power in Forest Hills.
02:57 Brooke         hey hey, the city boy has powah!
02:57 Brooke         (figured since ye were still online.)
02:57 jcamins_away   Yup.
02:57 jcamins_away   Well, my shell is on a server at sea level in Brooklyn.
02:58 jcamins_away   Kind of a miracle it's still up.
02:58 * Brooke       touches wood.
02:58 tcohen         jcamins_away, hope everything goes smooth there
02:58 wizzyrea       oh yes phew I was worrying about you jcamins, some crazy photos coming out of new york
02:59 Brooke         have you considered the Kon Tiki?
02:59 wizzyrea       and atlantic city is under water?
02:59 Brooke         my home state is Trashed. Like worse than after my Prom trashed.
02:59 jcamins_away   wizzyrea: yeah, so they say.
02:59 wizzyrea       crikey
02:59 * jcamins_away heads to bed.
03:02 Brooke         hey oak
03:02 Oak            hey!! Brooke
03:02 * Oak          waves
03:04 Brooke         Mr. Oak, we could use you to tie down some of the hay about here...
03:04 Oak            did you read Far From the Madding Crowd?
03:04 Oak            :)
03:56 wizzyrea       @later tell kf could you pass this around to your friends? http://www.kctv5.com/story/19944782/officials-working-to-locate-missing-emporia-state-student missing gal from Kansas, supposedly "went to Germany" and got lost there.
03:56 huginn         wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
05:14 vkm            hello i am using 3.6.4 but hold limit is not working through setting user circulation limit by default it picks limit from system preference
06:35 * magnuse      waves
06:37 rangi          heya magnuse
06:37 wahanui        magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
06:38 magnuse        yay!
06:38 magnuse        hiya rangi
06:39 * magnuse      checks up on how the us is doing
06:40 rangi          very messily
06:40 magnuse        wow, not too good
06:40 rangi          nope
06:46 cjh            :(
06:49 magnuse        gonna take some time to tidy up after that...
06:51 rangi          yeah, quite a while
06:53 * magnuse      tries to imagine the consequences of sea water in the subway system
06:53 rangi          and the substations for power
06:53 magnuse        yeah
07:41 julian_m       hello
07:41 wahanui        hello, julian_m
07:42 magnuse        @wunder marseille
07:42 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:30 AM CET on October 30, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
07:42 magnuse        @wunder boo
07:42 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (8:20 AM CET on October 30, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Steady).
07:46 rangi          @wunder nzwn
07:46 huginn         rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on October 30, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
07:49 reiveune       hello
07:51 alex_a         bonjour
07:51 rangi          hi julian_m, alex_a and reiveune
07:51 alex_a         hi rangi
07:55 magnuse        bonjour biblibre - cold office today?
07:55 magnuse        kia ora cait!
07:56 cait           hi magnuse
07:56 julian_m       hello rangi, magnuse and cait
07:56 julian_m       magnuse, yes very cold :)
07:57 cait           @wunder marseille
07:57 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:30 AM CET on October 30, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
07:57 cait           @wunder Konstanz
07:57 magnuse        @wunder Konstanz
07:57 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.2°C (8:55 AM CET on October 30, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
07:57 magnuse        ooh, colder than here!
07:59 cait           hi julian_m
07:59 cait           and all
08:10 gaetan_B       hello
08:10 wahanui        niihau, gaetan_B
08:17 clrh_          hello
08:17 wahanui        salut, clrh_
08:19 paul_p         good morning #koha
08:20 cait           hi paul_p
09:03 vkm            please let me know how to setup cronjob to rebuild index completely once in a day (at night)
09:55 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @ranginui: "@gmacmanus oh sweet i just gave a couple of the academy students certificates last week they had been working on #kohails in their own time"
09:55 magnuse        go students!
09:56 jenkins_koha   Starting build #919 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:56 cait           go students :)
10:00 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8665 follow-up: add missing line to XSLT <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=510a2397fb0955bc3fe9a5292a75d3c25e702982> / Bug 8665: DOM indexing fails to index some bib records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d9b4d58e381d26c46c556105fd26ca4b8908e31> / Bug 8966 Koha::Calendar::is_holiday truncates the date <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=co
10:01 slef           @later tell oleonard No, I don't use Mollom. :) Our last surviving drupal client lags behind our wordpress ones, but is a similar mix of Blogspam.net, Spam rules and human moderation.
10:01 huginn         slef: The operation succeeded.
10:10 vkm            maxreserves in system preference means? in Hold
10:14 slef           eythian: Bug 8982 for you, patch coming
10:14 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8982 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-create rejects --database option
10:16 slef           Changes submitted for bug 8982
10:58 cait           jcamins!
10:58 wahanui        somebody said jcamins was RM for 3.12, and just about the only one crazy enough to work on major projects in both authorities and search.
10:58 jcamins        Hello.
10:58 cait           jcamins: how are you doing?
10:58 jcamins        My server in Brooklyn is down, but we have power in Forest Hills.
10:58 cait           oh good
10:59 cait           well not for the server in brooklyn, but glad you got power
11:00 gerundio       jcamins, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dJolYw8tnk
11:00 gerundio       :)
11:03 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #919: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/919/
11:03 jenkins_koha   * nengard: Bug 8961: Fix typo in offline circ help
11:03 jenkins_koha   * mtompset: Bug 8749 - Missing Ubuntu library files in ubuntu.*.packages
11:03 jenkins_koha   * maxime.pelletier: Bug 8966 Koha::Calendar::is_holiday truncates the date
11:03 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8961 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , Typo in intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/offline_circ/list.tt
11:03 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 8665: DOM indexing fails to index some bib records
11:03 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 8665 follow-up: add missing line to XSLT
11:03 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8749 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Missing Ubuntu library files in ubuntu.packages and ubuntu.12.04.packages
11:03 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8966 critical, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, Pushed to Master , Koha::Calendar::is_holiday truncates the date
11:03 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8665 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , DOM indexing fails to index some bib records
11:06 magnuse        unstable?!?
11:06 wahanui        somebody said unstable was sid
11:06 magnuse        yeah, sort of, wahanui
11:06 wahanui        magnuse: i'm not following you...
11:06 magnuse        good!
11:11 jcamins        magnuse: possibly OCLC is down.
11:11 magnuse        yeah, looks like t/db_dependent/XISBN.t is the culprit
11:11 jenkins_koha   Starting build #920 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #918 1 day 15 hr ago)
11:26 * magnuse      discovers t/db_dependent/lib/KohaTest.pm
11:27 cait           what does it do? :)
11:28 magnuse        dunno, not been changed much since 2008
11:33 cait           oh and jcamins is gone again
11:35 magnuse        hiya jwagner - hanging in there?
11:36 jwagner        I got off pretty lightly -- amazingly, I never lost power for more than a minute or two.  A lot of damage in this area, but the folks further north got the worst of it.
11:36 magnuse        and the worst is over now?
11:37 jwagner        We're still expecting a fair amount of rain and wind all day, but not nearly as bad as yesterday and last night.  Biggest concern here now is flooding.
11:37 magnuse        ah yes
11:37 jwagner        Some trees could still come down (and take my power), but it's less likely now.
11:37 jwagner        Of course, I haven't ventured outside yet....
11:38 magnuse        be careful!
11:39 jwagner        It's great to be able to work from home :-) If nothing else, I don't have to try driving in this mess.
11:39 magnuse        working_from_home++ :-)
11:39 jwagner        I'll probably try going in tomorrow -- cabin fever sets in after a while.
11:39 magnuse        hehe
12:05 H1070          Hey koha
12:06 H1070          does annyone knows here where i can find information to configure the mail (my mail in the opac does not work)
12:06 jwagner        jcamins, you've survived so far?
12:06 jcamins        jwagner: yeah. We have power and everything.
12:07 libsysguy      jcamins you're alive!
12:07 jcamins        The streets are a sight, though.
12:07 libsysguy      i guess you're further north
12:07 jcamins        Yeah.
12:07 H1070          :Oo ny i presume
12:07 libsysguy      H1070 you should just configure postfix or exim etc
12:07 jcamins        And we're on high ground.
12:08 H1070          thx  i look into that :)
12:09 jcamins        jwagner: is the DC transit system still functioning?
12:09 libsysguy      after that is done you should set up notices: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/notices.html
12:09 jwagner        I think they're keeping it shut down again today.
12:10 jwagner        Probably smart -- there's flooding in some of the Metro tunnels, and a lot of the streets are full of downed trees.
12:10 jcamins        Yeah.
12:10 jwagner        There were some pretty bad pics from NY on the Post's web site.
12:11 jcamins        NYC transit has been pretty well decimated.
12:11 jcamins        We won't be getting into Manhattan at any point this week, I think.
12:11 jwagner        Which side of town are you on? I forget.
12:11 jcamins        All the tunnels we would need to get in are flooded out, I think.
12:11 jcamins        We're in Forest Hills, Queens.
12:12 jwagner        North/east side, if I remember my geography?
12:12 jcamins        Yeah.
12:12 libsysguy      Queens...
12:12 jcamins        We're probably in line with 100th St in Manhattan.
12:12 * libsysguy    shudders
12:13 jwagner        Is LaGuardia up that direction?
12:13 jcamins        Whoah.
12:13 jcamins        Talk about lucky.
12:13 jcamins        My next door neighbors are without power.
12:13 cait           ohwow
12:13 jwagner        in the same building?
12:14 jcamins        Next building over.
12:14 oleonard       We get an early snow thanks to Sandy, but nothing is sticking yet
12:15 jcamins        If you were to go from Manhattan to LGA then just follow the main highway into Queens, you would pass about three blocks away from us.
12:15 jwagner        I haven't been anywhere but mid-town Manhattan for years, I forget where things are....
12:18 jcamins        jwagner: we're not far from https://maps.google.com/maps?q=67-01+110th+Street+New+York,+NY+11375+&hl=en&ll=40.731519,-73.843575&spn=0.078829,0.141621&sll=40.736137,-73.852201&sspn=0.019706,0.035405&hq=67-01+110th+Street+New+York,+NY+11375&radius=15000&t=m&z=13&iwloc=A
12:18 jcamins        Wow. That was a horrible URL.
12:19 jenkins_koha   Yippie, build fixed!
12:19 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #920: FIXED in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/920/
12:20 oleonard       New York is like Middle Earth to me. I've heard so much about it in books and movies, but I've never been there.
12:20 jcamins        oleonard: hehe. You should come visit some time.
12:20 tcohen         morning #koha
12:21 oleonard       Sounds exciting right now jcamins, I'll just pop over.
12:22 jwagner        I haven't been there in years -- is the Strand bookstore still going strong?
12:23 paul_p         good morning americans from the north and from the south !
12:23 tcohen         good morning paul_p
12:23 libsysguy      morning paul_p
12:23 paul_p         oleonard = really, you've been to Marseille but never to NY ?
12:23 paul_p         tcohen libsysguy = my morning *was* not so good because still no heat in our office :(((
12:24 cait           paul_p: have you seen all the big cities in france yet? and bare in mind france is a bit smaller than US :)
12:24 oleonard       It's true :) And Paris, and Berlin, and Prague, and Vienna, and Venice... but not New York!
12:24 cait           wow, quite a round trip through europe :)
12:24 libsysguy      paul_p do you have a coat?
12:24 cait           you have been to Vienna but not to Konstanz? :P
12:25 oleonard       It was, sadly, many years ago now
12:25 paul_p         libsysguy yep. and some underwear I usually don't wear in Marseille. So i'm fine in fact ;-)
12:26 libsysguy      hehe paul_p has thermal undies
12:26 paul_p         libsysguy but as i'm french, i'm complaining ;-)
12:26 * libsysguy    wasn't going to say anything
12:26 * libsysguy    was going to suggest a smoke and some wine
12:26 libsysguy      :p
12:26 paul_p         libsysguy yes, but you thought of it so loudly that I heard it :D
12:27 jcamins        jwagner: yeah, Strand remains a New York institution.
12:27 paul_p         libsysguy (I almost never drink alcohol, and don't smoke either)
12:27 jwagner        Any bookstore that advertises 18 miles of books is MY kind of place....
12:27 libsysguy      paul_p I was sure that would change after you were RM for KOha ong enough
12:28 paul_p         libsysguy hehe... maybe jcamins took the ball quickly enough :D
12:28 libsysguy      we'll see, you still have to make it to November
12:31 libsysguy      paul_p what part of france are you in?
12:31 libsysguy      my relatives from Sweden were curious
12:31 paul_p         libsysguy Marseille, south -mediterranean coast
12:31 libsysguy      gotcha
12:32 libsysguy      I shall pass that along ;)
13:45 gmcharlt       good morning
13:46 oleonard       Hi gmcharlt
14:08 rjune          I'm trying to add an item without a MARC record or entry in LoC. My problem is record 100. As memory(and documentation) say 100 [012] are the fields I should be adding / editing, but The MARC editor won't let me add those fields. Am I missing something, or do I have to create the MARC record by hand, then import it?
14:08 cait           rjune: the 100 is for the author
14:09 cait           they are supposed to be linked to an authority
14:09 cait           using the plugin at the end ofthe field
14:09 cait           if you don't want to use authorities, you can reconfigure koha to not use them, that's descrbed in the manual I think
14:09 cait           authorities?
14:09 cait           manual?
14:09 wahanui        manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
14:10 rjune          cait, coincidentally, It's the author of the book I want to add.
14:10 cait           yes, the system at themoment requiers you to addan authority record for the author firt
14:10 cait           if you don't want to use authorities, then you can deactivate that
14:11 cait           faqs?
14:11 cait           faq?
14:11 wahanui        faq is probably found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/
14:12 libsysguy      libsysguy?
14:12 wahanui        rumour has it libsysguy is dealing with infinity when dealing with spansets
14:12 libsysguy      aww what happened to the one that wizzyrea gave me :'(
14:12 cait           libsysguy?
14:12 wahanui        libsysguy is, like, Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck or koha's youngest developer
14:12 cait           that one? :)
14:12 libsysguy      yeah!!
14:13 cait           :)
14:13 cait           cait?
14:13 wahanui        you are probably qam, not your secretary
14:13 cait           um ok
14:14 cait           kf?
14:14 wahanui        well, kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert.
14:15 libsysguy      heh cait is qam and kf is a holds expert
14:15 cait           well one is true the other not
14:15 * libsysguy    wishes I was a holds expert
14:15 libsysguy      then I could solve some of the holds problems :p
14:16 cait           yeah, i wish that too :)
14:16 cait           for you to be a holds expert
14:16 libsysguy      hehe
14:16 cait           but that would be mean, you would probably go crazy sooner or later
14:16 cait           it's just too much for a human midn
14:16 libsysguy      I am already crazy
14:16 libsysguy      but I feel the rabbit hole goes deeper with holds
14:16 cait           oh alright then, go ahead
14:20 rjune          adding an authority?
14:20 rjune          authority?
14:20 rjune          apparently the bot ignores me.
14:20 cait           I am not sure I am up to explaining the use of authorities in english :)
14:20 rjune          wahanui, hello?
14:20 wahanui        hello are u there?
14:20 cait           try faq?
14:20 rjune          faq?
14:20 wahanui        well, faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/
14:20 cait           there is a point about authorities with the chapter in the manual
14:21 rjune          cool. I'll read up on that.
14:21 rjune          has been a while since I've been involved with libraries
14:22 cait           authorities will enable some nice features in the next release
14:22 cait           maybe think about it some before you make a decision
14:23 cait           but it's also work to maintain them
14:23 rjune          mostly been simple. because mostly has been in LoC.
14:23 cait           you don't get authorities when downloading form z29.50
14:24 rjune          It seems I have a book that isn't in any of the z3950 searches
14:24 cait           but the fields are filled in and koha may generate some basic authority on its own
14:24 rjune          then why haven't I had to deal with author records before?
14:24 rjune          that is probably it then.
14:36 bryce          Are there browser recommendations for koha 3.8?
14:37 bryce          Web browser that is.
14:37 oleonard       Anything but Internet Explorer
14:37 bryce          That's what I thought.
14:37 bryce          Is this documented anywhere?
14:37 oleonard       Hm, I'm not sure
14:38 oleonard       It should work in IE, just not be as pretty
14:39 bryce          We can't add barcodes to a label batch in IE using the copy paste method.
14:39 bryce          Works in Firefox fine.
14:39 oleonard       Which IE?
14:39 wahanui        Which IE are we bashing today?
14:40 bryce          IE8
14:40 bryce          Didn't work in 7 eaither.
14:40 bryce          either
14:40 jcamins        The labels module doesn't work in IE<9, and possibly not IE9 either.
14:40 rjune          cait, thanks again for you r help.
14:41 bryce          Thanks for the info though. I'll pass it on.
14:41 oleonard       Is there a bug for that jcamins?
14:41 jcamins        oleonard: somewhere.
14:42 jcamins        I'm pretty sure I recall chris_n indicating that he would not be fixing it.
14:42 * oleonard     doesn't see it in the browser compatibility bugs list
14:43 jcamins        Check the Tools module?
14:45 * oleonard     gets depressed about how many bugs there are
14:51 * cait         sends cookies to oleonard
15:07 magnuse        rangi just showed us that we are moving in the rght direction, remember? ;-)
15:15 * oleonard     moves two more bugs in the right direction
15:16 magnuse        oleonard++
15:24 * magnuse      moves bug 2832 in the right direction
15:24 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2832 normal, P3, ---, magnus, Signed Off , Make alphabet localizable
15:24 oleonard       magnuse++
15:24 magnuse        yay!
15:26 magnuse        still 38 *bugs* that need signoff (and 73 enh)
15:44 magnuse        still a few hours left to climb on the monthly scoreboard for october! http://dashboard.koha-community.org/
15:52 rambutan       @seen jcamins
15:52 huginn         rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 8 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <jcamins> Check the Tools module?
16:09 oleonard       for the second time this week I have been sent a Word document in which someone has formatted text into columns by using the spacebar
16:09 magnuse        wooho spaces++ ;-)
16:09 magnuse        tables are for geeks
16:10 magnuse        spaces are the new black
16:10 oleonard       Makes it very hard to cut and paste >:(
16:10 cait           oleonard: i feel with you
16:10 cait           oleonard: what i found helpful is copying into an editor
16:10 cait           and removing all the doubled up spaces with regex
16:11 cait           oleonard: but I had to create html form the word things anyway, so probably not what you want to do... ah ignore me. my brain is on vacation today.
16:11 oleonard       As it should be cait, it is vacation time
16:12 cait           but...
16:21 rambutan       oleonard: sed and awk
16:22 oleonard       I'd prefer to sit and squawk :P
16:22 rambutan       hehe
16:22 rambutan       that's funny. you should get bonus points for that
16:44 oleonard       chris_n like proper indentation and has four exclamation points to show it!
16:44 oleonard       <!-- PLEASE MAINTAIN PROPER INDENTATION!!!!  -->
16:44 cait           heh
17:47 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8980 - Untranslatable strings in modborrowers.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=715c52977a8d4a25cc91aabd22224c66956c6f33> / Bug 8936: Search RSS feeds does not show there items when subscribing in Firefox <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=678c7c42307c126bf000e28dfe302c6603614c77> / Bug 8973: HTML and URL escape missing in OPAC templates <http://git.koha-co
17:56 jenkins_koha   Starting build #921 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
18:19 oleonard       If anyone has access to IE for testing, it would be nice to get Bug 7687 into 3.10
18:19 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7687 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Remove problematic CSS gradient declarations targeting Internet Explorer
18:22 cait           I could try much later - have to boot into windows on the computer and working on some things right now
18:23 * oleonard     apologizes for asking people to use IE even briefly
18:23 jcamins        As you should!
18:25 bag            I don't even think I have IE on my computer
18:25 bag            I have to fire up VMs to get to it
18:25 jcamins        bag: ditto.
18:27 rangi          I can't even do that sorry
18:27 rangi          No windows license
18:29 cait           am I the outcast now for still having it? it came with the laptop....
18:30 rangi          That's why I got my zareason cos it didn't hehe
18:30 jcamins        cait: I may actually buy a license for Windows 8 at some point.
18:30 oleonard       No cait, I'm the outcast for still using Windows every day at work
18:30 oleonard       (although I suspect Windows 8 will be the last straw for me)
18:31 cait           oleonard: i do that too, if it helps
18:31 cait           I mean... you are not alone in your despair
18:32 rangi          Luckily we would need to ask a directors permission... It's pretty much the opposite hehe
18:33 jcamins        rangi: the CEO of my company is happy to provide Windows to those who needs it, but can't abide it, personally.
18:33 jcamins        s/needs/need/
18:34 rangi          wizzyrea's machine arrived yesterday its Ubuntu precise I think
18:34 cait           :)
18:34 cait           what did she get?
18:34 jcamins        Ubuntu is growing on me.
18:34 oleonard       When is her first day rangi?
18:34 cait           jcamins: heh
18:34 gmcharlt       jcamins: it would be bad to have a heated argument with your company's CEO, methinks ;)
18:34 gmcharlt       especially for you
18:34 rangi          Precise makes a good desktop
18:34 jcamins        I hated it at first, but once I had removed all the crap it installed, it works pretty well.
18:35 rangi          Yep
18:35 jcamins        Though I just can't abide Unity.
18:35 rangi          Not next Monday but the one after
18:35 jcamins        gmcharlt: true.
18:35 rangi          I run xmonad
18:35 * gmcharlt     is not a fan of the tabletification of desktop UIs
18:36 rangi          Never actually used unity yet
18:36 jcamins        I tried xmonad for a while.
18:37 jcamins        I discovered it doesn't work so well on a laptop.
18:37 rangi          Oleonard: giving her some time to acclimatise
18:37 oleonard       Understandable
18:38 cait           I don't know, i got used to it
18:38 cait           unity I mean
18:38 cait           now I always move my mouse to the right side at work only to discover that no menu comes up
18:38 jcamins        cait: just wait a little longer. :P
18:41 rangi          Wellylibfast today
18:41 cait           have fun :)
18:41 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7339] Help System in IE7-8 Does Not Load With 500 Error <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339>
18:42 rangi          Still on bus for a little bit longer
18:42 oleonard       huginn: What? That isn't true.
18:42 huginn         oleonard: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
18:43 oleonard       So huginn *will* tell you something needs signoff, but only if you... I don't know, all I did was edit the title.
18:43 rangi          Heh
18:45 rangi          Ok bbl
19:03 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #921: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/921/
19:03 jenkins_koha   * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8973: HTML and URL escape missing in OPAC templates
19:03 jenkins_koha   * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8936: Search RSS feeds does not show there items when subscribing in Firefox
19:03 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 8980 - Untranslatable strings in modborrowers.pl
19:04 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8973 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , HTML and URL escape missing in OPAC templates
19:04 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8936 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Search RSS  feeds does not show there items when subscribing in Firefox
19:04 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8980 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Untranslatable strings in modborrowers.pl
20:05 * wizzyrea     waves
20:05 oleonard       Yay, it's wizzyrea!
20:06 wizzyrea       hey oleonard - how's the storm?
20:06 oleonard       You're so far away I can barely see you
20:06 wizzyrea       :)
20:06 cait           hey wizzyrea :)
20:06 wizzyrea       hi cait!
20:06 oleonard       Lots of rain and some wind here, nothing to worry about yet
20:06 cait           been stalking you on twitter and facebook - looks like all is going well :)
20:06 oleonard       I hear other places in Ohio have power out but not here
20:07 rangi          back
20:07 cait           wb :)
20:07 wizzyrea       so far so good :)
20:08 oleonard       How was the flight?
20:08 wizzyrea       it was good - "Fast"
20:08 wizzyrea       where fast = no more than 2 hours between planes
20:09 oleonard       Seat-back movies?
20:10 wizzyrea       oh yes
20:10 wizzyrea       airnz is awesome like that
20:10 wizzyrea       power at every seat
20:13 wizzyrea       spud slept for about 9 of the 13 hours
20:13 bag            heya wizzyrea
20:13 wahanui        wizzyrea is probably a Cylon, and they all have plans.
20:13 wizzyrea       i slept for maybe 4ish
20:13 wizzyrea       hey bag
20:13 cait           13 hours is not a long flight ;)
20:13 cait           ah, but that was not the total of all, right?
20:17 wizzyrea       I think ours was 16 total in the air this time
20:17 wizzyrea       the last time it was longer.
20:18 talljoy        o/ wizzyrea
20:18 * oleonard     waves goodbye for the evening
20:20 cait           wizzyrea: bit more difficult from europe to nz, but 16 is still long
20:20 wizzyrea       yea, the first time we had an 8 hour layover in sfo
20:20 wizzyrea       that was... long
21:15 rangi          hmm
21:18 rangi          hey jcamins .. server still out?
21:18 jcamins        rangi: yeah.
21:19 jcamins        We encountered a problem with our DR systems.
21:19 jcamins        The servers are actually back online.
21:19 rangi          ssh bugs.koha-community.org
21:19 jcamins        Connected to the Internet via our backup connections.
21:20 rangi          and you can run screen and irssi from there if you want
21:20 jcamins        Thanks!
21:21 jcamins        Unfortunately, having two backup connections doesn't help if you have a static route set up.
21:22 rangi          yay
21:23 jcamins_       Ah.
21:23 jcamins_       Irssi is so much nicer to use.
21:23 cait           your server in brooklyn is back up?
21:24 jcamins        cait: I'm using rangi's server for IRC.
21:24 cait           ah :)
21:24 jcamins        The power's back, but we have static routing, which means the two redundant internet connections are only used when the primary connection is up.
21:30 eythian        hi
21:31 cait           hello
21:33 eythian        slef: cool, hopefully will take a gander at it today
21:36 rangi          https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/10/30/KrBHt8Mbb0OTaUYqSW9Wpw2.gif
21:40 rangi          http://www.nzosa.org.nz/news  <-- a Koha library made the finalists
21:41 jcamins        Cool!
21:42 cait           and totara and the academy too :)
21:43 rangi          yep
21:57 jenkins_koha   Starting build #219 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:33 eythian        http://youtu.be/XV6so87RZNQ
22:35 rangi          thats pretty amazing
22:35 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.8.x build #219: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/219/
22:35 jenkins_koha   * mtompset: Bug 8749 - Missing Ubuntu library files in ubuntu.*.packages
22:35 jenkins_koha   * maxime.pelletier: Bug 8966 Koha::Calendar::is_holiday truncates the date
22:35 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8749 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Missing Ubuntu library files in ubuntu.packages and ubuntu.12.04.packages
22:35 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8966 critical, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, Pushed to Stable , Koha::Calendar::is_holiday truncates the date
22:36 jenkins_koha   Starting build #220 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:52 cait           @wunder Konstanz
22:52 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.8°C (11:50 PM CET on October 30, 2012). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
22:52 cait           brr.
22:57 rambutan       -0.8°C ?? What's with that? Should be autumn there, right?  +10°C or something?
22:57 cait           well can be a bit colder in autumn
22:57 cait           but that's quite cold
23:00 eythian        @wunder nzwn
23:00 huginn         eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on October 31, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
23:13 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.8.x build #220: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/220/
23:13 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 8665: DOM indexing fails to index some bib records
23:13 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 8665 follow-up: add missing line to XSLT
23:13 jenkins_koha   * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8973: HTML and URL escape missing in OPAC templates
23:13 jenkins_koha   * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8936: Search RSS feeds does not show there items when subscribing in Firefox
23:13 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8665 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , DOM indexing fails to index some bib records
23:13 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8973 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , HTML and URL escape missing in OPAC templates
23:13 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8936 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Search RSS  feeds does not show there items when subscribing in Firefox