Time Nick Message 23:06 cait night all 23:03 madcrow anyway, i'm out 22:49 madcrow possibly 22:49 cait maybe someone from US can give you some hints 22:47 madcrow especially for works with many editions and printings, the built-in sources miss a lot 22:46 madcrow but those are only a start 22:45 madcrow yes 22:43 cait did you install koha with the example z39.50 servers? 22:42 cait there are some free servers too 22:42 madcrow well, i'm thinking mainly of servers providing machine-readable data on demand 22:41 cait a lot of data in germany has been released lately under cc0 even 22:41 cait and it depends probably on what kind of data you are looking for 22:40 cait I am not sure you can say that 22:40 madcrow it looks like free bibliographic data is going away 22:36 cait sadly.. that probably makes sense :( 22:35 madcrow drat. it would appear that most UC libraries killed Z39.50 access when they moved to worldcat... 22:35 cait ah ok 22:33 wahanui the internet is not working here properly... I may disappear 22:33 eythian The internet 22:32 cait where do you always find links like that? 22:29 eythian http://www.tor.com/stories/2011/08/wikihistory 22:25 cait hm you could send them an email and ask maybe? 22:24 madcrow scotty.ucr.edu 22:24 madcrow the last 26 connection attempts from irspy for the uc riverside server are fails 22:23 cait which one is it? 22:23 madcrow of course the one library i really wanted to query seems to have disabled public z39.50 access... 22:15 madcrow thanks 22:15 cait ah thx rangi 22:15 wahanui irspy is a good source for identifying Z39.50 targets. See http://irspy.indexdata.com. 22:15 rangi irspy? 22:14 cait irspy 22:13 madcrow anyway, at the moment i'm also wondering if there's a good list of free z39.59 sources on the net 22:12 madcrow sounds good 22:12 cait hope it stays like that 22:11 rangi cool 22:11 melia_ nengard says so far, so good. she says the storm has just come on land, but she is north of the eye and so far has just seen some wind and rain but nothing major. 22:08 madcrow anyway, at least i've had some time to research koha 22:08 madcrow yuck 22:07 rangi thats where nengard is 22:07 madcrow well new jersey's the place that's got it real bad 22:07 ibeardslee yeah sucky day to be inside today 22:06 eythian I guess we're just getting the other side of the average 22:06 eythian On the flip side, it's on of the best days here we've had in a while. 22:06 madcrow they want people to stay home... 22:05 eythian that makes some sense I guess. 22:05 eythian oh ah 22:05 madcrow its been turned off on purpose 22:05 eythian at least some parts of boston metro have no power. 22:05 madcrow here in boston, it's not that bad yet... 22:04 eythian http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/liveblog/files/2012/10/original.gif <-- what's going on in the US 22:04 madcrow the koha self-checkout screen looks simple enough that they can handle it 22:02 cait madcrow: but beare... no guarantees they won't screw up circulationg with koha too ;) 22:00 eythian madcrow: then yes, if you know/don't mind learning MARC, Koha will most likely suit you. 21:59 madcrow we do circulate and would like to get away from the whole "write the book in the checkout binder" which half our members seem to screw up 21:58 cait and what rangi said :) 21:58 rangi then yes 21:58 rangi but if yuo only want a searchable catalogue 21:58 cait is it a library with a librarian? do you circulate books between members? 21:58 rangi no 21:58 eythian madcrow: no. We have people using it with significantly smaller collections 21:58 rangi depends what you want to do, if you plan to use the features like circulation etc, and you have cataloguers who understand MARC data and other things 21:58 tcohen no it isn't madcrow 21:57 madcrow 1st, is Koha overkill for a 15000 volume collection 21:57 cait good luck! 21:57 cait bye 21:57 jcamins_away Bye. 21:56 jcamins_away Or out of power. 21:56 jcamins_away If my nick signs off, it means that Brooklyn's under water. 21:56 jcamins_away Bye. 21:55 madcrow I'm working on a project to get a local SF club's 15k volume library cataloged and I've got some questions 21:54 rangi cool 21:54 jcamins I'll update druthb every so often. 21:54 rangi good luck jcamins 21:54 jcamins So long, #koha. 21:54 * jcamins closes everything down. 21:54 jcamins Acceptably, to my mind, under CGI. 21:54 jcamins tcohen: it works better under Plack. 21:53 rangi hi madcrow 21:53 madcrow Hello there Koha-philes 21:51 tcohen is there any tradeoff on using DBIx::Class regarding things like Plack? 21:44 tcohen guess http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149 21:43 eythian I'd be inclined to save battery, but maybe he has a lot to spare. 21:43 eythian probably 21:42 jcamins eythian: 3g? 21:42 eythian he's still on IRC however, I'm not sure how. 21:42 * cait gets out more duct tape 21:41 rangi yep, natec, jessem and i think nengard have all lost power too 21:41 jcamins cait: it's just a matter of time before the power goes out. 21:41 eythian power is totally off to a friend of mine around NY somewhere. 21:41 cait oh 21:40 cait ? 21:40 jcamins First brownout. 21:40 jcamins Damn. 21:40 cait tcohen: lots of interesting patches and ideas :) hope a lot of work done on them too :) 21:38 tcohen I mean, an interesting roadmap 21:38 tcohen so, we have an RFC for 3.12 ;) 21:37 tcohen thanks 21:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Signed Off , Add the use of DBIx::Class 21:37 jcamins Bug 8798 21:37 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add Course Reserves 21:37 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Signed Off , Add the use of DBIx::Class 21:37 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7365 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, marc, In Discussion , Koha uses MySQL 21:37 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8309 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Koha namespace organisation, first implementation 21:36 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5837 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Change installer to use DBIx::Class::Schema::Versioned instead of updatedatabase.pl 21:36 jcamins @query dbix 21:36 huginn jcamins: There were no matching configuration variables. 21:36 jcamins @search dbix 21:36 tcohen does anyone know the scope of libsysguy's work on introducing DBIx::Class? 21:34 tcohen hi eythian 21:34 tcohen understood cait, thanks 21:32 cait hi eythian and cjh 21:31 jcamins Right. 21:31 cjh morning 21:31 eythian hi 21:30 cait the ealrier the better 21:30 cait make sure you finish in time to get it tested and through qa 21:29 cait because of the freezes 21:29 cait tcohen: be careful - it's not really 6 months 21:28 tcohen libsysguy mentioned his work on that one I think 21:28 jcamins DBIx::Class is the direction we're going, though. 21:28 jcamins tcohen: we're not. 21:28 tcohen DBIx::Class? 21:28 tcohen what persistence lib are we using? 21:22 rangi yep 21:22 tcohen have their own table, and be related to actual issues/items 21:22 tcohen i think suspensions need to be acknowledged the way fines are 21:21 rangi hi tcohen 21:21 tcohen hi rangi 21:20 rangi back to our regularly scheduled releases 21:20 tcohen so, that's the time frame we have 21:20 rangi yay ! 21:19 jcamins And it'll actually be 6 mo. 21:19 tcohen and wanted to know if there's a chance we can at least push that subject on a RFC 21:19 jcamins 6mo schedule. 21:19 jcamins Yes. 21:19 tcohen i'm asking because we need to do some work on suspensions 21:17 tcohen will it be released based on time then? 21:16 jcamins tcohen: no. 21:16 tcohen hi jcamins, is there a roadmap for 3.12 on the wiki? 20:31 rambutan University of Md? That's where I graduated from. 20:29 jwagner College Park, MD (DC suburb) 20:29 rambutan what city are you in jwagner? 20:29 rambutan wx channel says Atlantic City area pressure is 940mb. That's pretty low. 20:28 jwagner yep. The worst of the storm is hitting us now, according to the newspeeps. I'm surprised I still have power.... 20:28 rambutan 08401 is Atlantic City. Suppose the hurricane done wiped them off the wx map? 20:28 rangi i forgot DC was taht close to the coast 20:27 rambutan what? 20:27 huginn rambutan: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 20:27 rambutan @wunder 08401 20:25 huginn jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 9.3°C (4:25 PM EDT on October 29, 2012). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 28.95 in 980 hPa (Falling). High Wind Warning in effect until 8 PM EDT Tuesday... 20:25 jwagner @wunder 20740 20:22 rangi eek 20:22 jcamins The wind has turned somewhat, and is blowing with gale force through our air conditioning units. 20:22 jcamins This might be an issue. 20:18 rangi cya oleonard 20:18 oleonard Bye #koha 20:14 santy ok, thank you all, problem solved, the record length must be exactly 5 characters long in the leader... now the special letters appear all ok, this was a tricky one for me 20:08 rangi ahh right 20:08 jcamins Then again, they might not. 20:07 jcamins rangi: I'm outside the floodplane, so they haven't announced plans to shut it off preemptively here at home, but they might shut off power in the floodplane within the next hour. 20:06 cait :( 20:05 rangi how long before they turn the power off jcamins ? 20:04 * jcamins fills a half dozen containers with water. 20:03 rangi yep good old gigo 20:01 santy oh my God, I think you just solved my problem! 20:00 rangi that one :) 20:00 rangi oh yeah 20:00 jcamins http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bdleader.html I think. 20:00 santy ok... should I paste the Marc leader i'm using here? 19:59 rangi http://www.loc.gov/marc/holdings/hdleader.html 19:58 rangi you can only set the leader to be MARC8 or UTF8 19:58 jcamins santy: MARC leader. 19:57 rangi hmm what? 19:57 santy in the xml leader, I have tried UTF-8, Latin1, ISO-8859-1, CP1250, windows-1252, etc etc... and they DO have an effect, but while the characters appear ok inside mysql, they never appear ok in the form... (well, only if I correct them in the form, save and reload) 19:56 jcamins Myshkin, on the other hand, says it's the end of the world. 19:56 jcamins rambutan: it's gusty, and raining pretty hard -- on and off -- but if I didn't know there was a hurricane, I would've said it was just a rain storm. 19:55 cait santy: we got german umlauts and hebrew in our databases, and it's working ok 19:55 jcamins Try rangi's leader suggestion. Based on your description, it's almost certainly leader. 19:55 rangi 99% its your leader 19:54 cait santy: it surely is in your data 19:54 cait santy: we can't recommend that 19:54 jcamins We presume he's responding to pressure changes. 19:54 santy I think I need to take a look a the subs which do concatenate the marcxml field, in which script are they? 19:54 oleonard jcamins: Too much CNN? 19:53 rambutan that bad, huh? 19:53 jcamins He's squished himself into a little ball in an arm chair, having worn himself out crying earlier. 19:53 jcamins He's a bit traumatized, though. 19:53 jcamins rambutan: yeah. 19:53 santy but only when I load the record into the marc editin form in the staff page, the characters don't get loaded... 19:52 rambutan jcamins: presumably the cat has sufficient rations for the week? 19:52 santy it's kind of weird... because when I look at the marcxml field just after the import inside the biblioitems table, these characters appear OK... 19:51 cait santy: and if you use the stagd marc record scripts make sure the encoding is set to the right choice 19:50 * cait uses a lot of duct tape to keep jcamins around 19:50 jcamins If it's in Koha with the wrong encoding, the solution is to reimport. 19:49 rangi santy: fix your leader, before you use bulkmarcimport.pl to import them 19:49 jcamins santy: that means it's not migrating non-ascii characters correctly. 19:49 santy Every data gets migrated ok, but just special characters like á, é, ñ etc get screwed 19:49 jcamins Power outages on their way. 19:49 jcamins Uh-oh. 19:48 jcamins By the time the data is in Koha, it is too late. 19:48 santy ok, as I told you last time, jcamins, I'm currently in a project where some library needs to migrate their whole catalog into Koha. As you know, their system is a custom one with no export functionality whatsoever... so I have to migrate programmatically... and it works... but I'm having encoding issues. 19:47 * rangi wonders what santy is trying to do 19:46 jcamins ^^ exactly 19:46 talljoy they are probably used in different ways and places within koha 19:46 cait and you should not manipulate them 19:46 rangi different representations of the same thing 19:46 jcamins The behavior is entirely undefined. 19:45 talljoy the have identical data because they are the same thing 19:45 jcamins It depends what you're trying to do. 19:45 santy why should both fields always have identical data in them... what happens if not? 19:45 talljoy ^yes 19:45 jcamins santy: the two fields should always have identical data in them. 19:44 santy is the binary marc field used to populate the add marc record form... or just only the marcxml field is used for that? 19:43 wahanui jcamins: I forgot raw marc 19:43 jcamins wahanui: forget raw marc 19:42 wahanui raw marc is well less than that 19:42 talljoy raw marc 19:42 talljoy it holds the marc data. 19:42 santy HELLO everyone, could someone please explain to me what the marc (longblob) field in the biblioitems table is for? 19:41 talljoy just got a request for it, actually. 19:41 talljoy i like that idea too 19:35 rangi ah right 19:35 oleonard I'm frustrated by the limited number of fields available to be changed on patron batch modification 19:35 rangi hm? 19:31 oleonard There must be a clever way to do batch patron modification on an arbitrary set of borrowers table columns... 19:27 cait muha. 19:27 bag in two more days cait - will do :) 19:27 cait Oak++ 19:27 cait bye Oak 19:27 Oak_ good night. 19:27 cait bag: sounds cute :) photos? :) 19:27 Oak_ magnuse++ 19:27 Oak_ yes you did. and you know it. 19:27 cait I didn't do anything! 19:27 Oak_ cait++ 19:27 Oak_ oleonard++ 19:26 cait oleonard++ btw :) 19:26 jcamins Hm. Sounds like the server I connect to IRC through is going to be down a while. 19:26 bag Shes dressing up like a ladybug this year and Sonja and I are going to be flowers 19:26 cait :) 19:26 rangi ;) 19:25 bag Oh Wow - I think the dragon would be great in a costume like that 19:24 rangi hehe 19:24 oleonard Or vice-versa! 19:23 oleonard Meanwhile that guy's wife has been on baby-duty for an unbroken month while he builds the costume ;) 19:20 cait heh 19:18 jcamins Wow. 19:17 rangi best halloween costume ever! 19:17 rangi https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/282288_10151214160492708_1843373693_n.jpg 19:09 cait I don't want to be the only one on this bug - so asking around :) happy if more people comment, even if they disagre 19:08 oleonard cait: I saw that you raised that issue on the bug report, and I think it's a good point 19:05 cait especially because the new feature requires different permissions for a much mightier tool 19:05 cait looking for more opinions 19:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Offer to batch delete items of a biblio record 19:05 cait bug 8801 19:05 cait can you take a look at 8801 maybe? i am not so happy with the idea of killing a feature 19:04 cait oleonard: speaking of batch stuff 19:03 rangi just in case 19:03 rangi rambutan: im sure there are already 7 marc fields for that 19:03 rangi heh 19:03 rambutan https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/librarian-finds-hidden-gun-donated-book-article-1.1193683 19:03 rambutan does this require a special cataloging field? 19:03 cait oleonard: eew :( 18:59 oleonard Batch patron modification purports to allow you to batch delete categorycode and branchcode from patron records, but the db won't let it (which is good) leaving errors in the log 18:52 rangi hehe 18:52 rangi ahh right 18:52 bag but all true fans say METS My Entire Team Sucks 18:52 bag well the real name is Mets - which stands for Metropolitans 18:51 rangi bag: hmmm nope 18:51 jcamins Firearms, for those who want an advantage over someone wearing a helmet. 18:50 jcamins 200 years of helmets, to go with the book on armor for horses. 18:49 jcamins I love the modern obsession with centuries. 18:49 bag oh yeah rangi - so I'm a Mets fan - do you know what that stands for? 18:49 jcamins "300 years of eighteenth-century costume." 18:48 * oleonard grumbles dramatically 18:47 rangi Ahh right 18:47 bag rangi not the national league - so the detriot tigers 18:46 rangi Hmm kahu will like that 18:46 jcamins And now it is available online. 18:45 jcamins The Met published an entire book on armor for horses. 18:45 rangi Bag: which one has the DH? 18:45 * rangi either 18:44 jcamins I didn't realize that had been pushed. 18:43 jcamins Batch patron modification? 18:43 bag rangi: it was a great world series if you're a national league fan - they won with great pitching and playing small ball (well all games except the first one) 18:43 cait shouldn't have passed qa... but now we are feature freeze and it will be messy 18:42 * oleonard didn't actually realize it was in master already until he spotted it in nengard's documentation patch 18:42 cait but this sounds bad :( 18:42 cait I didn't test that yet :( 18:42 cait oh batch 18:42 oleonard batch patron modification 18:42 cait hm you sure? 18:42 oleonard On the edit form 18:41 cait oleonard: when do they appear? 18:41 oleonard Ugh, modborrowers.pl sets field labels in English in the script? 18:40 * cait doesn't even try... it would only get embarassing :) 18:40 bag Padres are in San Deigo 18:40 bag yup 18:37 rangi Padres? 18:37 rangi Ahh 18:37 wahanui the other one is that the passwords would be created on each individual machine. 18:37 rangi What's the other one? 18:37 bag Angles of Anahiem, Oakland, and San Diego 18:37 rangi Oakland 18:37 bag three more rangio 18:37 rangi Anaheim? 18:36 bag I'm a Mets fan 18:36 rangi Isn't there another california team too? 18:36 * oleonard consoles bag 18:35 bag dodgers fans hate the giants 18:35 bag the local team here is the Dodgers 18:35 bag hey rangi did you know I love baseball ;) 18:34 jcamins bag: are the Giants your local team? 18:34 rangi That does sound cool 18:34 cait morning rangi, hi bag 18:33 rangi Oh yeah? 18:33 bag you could watch the bats break and all that - was SO SO cool 18:33 bag rangi they introduced the coolest thing this year at the world series - super slow mo HD of the batters swing 18:32 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 30, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 18:32 rangi @wunder nzwn 18:31 rangi Hehe 18:30 bag Giants win the world series - I know you were on the edge of your seat waiting for that news ;) 18:30 tcohen hi rangio 18:30 bag morning rangi 18:29 wahanui i guess Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. 18:29 rangi Morning 18:25 huginn bag: sekjal was last seen in #koha 1 week, 3 days, 2 hours, 29 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <sekjal> this is one of the first times I've listened to music at work… that's definitey something I miss from my home office days 18:25 bag @seen sekjal 17:12 nengard thanks oleonard 17:01 oleonard Would it help if it required me to do sit-ups before submitting the form? 17:00 magnuse oleonard: because it would be too easy? 16:59 oleonard It would be very useful for converting the city+state data in the city column (from before we had the state column) 16:57 oleonard Why can't I batch modify patrons' address fields? 16:47 rambutan somehow I retain this idea that nengard is on the WC-Washington state or somewhere 16:43 oleonard Just wanted to point out that on tags administration you can now click the tag to see a list of titles tagged with that term. I don't see that in the docs. 16:43 nengard but still have power 16:43 nengard We too are hearing heavy rain and wind 16:43 nengard on a call :) 16:43 nengard sort of 16:43 oleonard nengard around? 16:41 jcamins Yup. 16:41 rambutan but you're doing OK? 16:35 jcamins Now it's a bit stormy. 16:23 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Search Groups in Koha 3.4 http://t.co/mzVdRjcU" 15:52 huginn chris_n: The current temperature in The Ocracoke Harbor Inn/Silver Lake, Ocracoke, North Carolina is 13.8°C (11:52 AM EDT on October 29, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.35 in 994 hPa (Falling). Tropical Storm Warning in effect... 15:52 chris_n @wunder 27960 15:51 huginn chris_n: Error: No such location could be found. 15:51 chris_n @wunder obx 15:46 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in APRSWXNET E. Falmouth MA US, Falmouth, Massachusetts is 16.1°C (11:11 AM EDT on October 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.31 in 992 hPa (Steady). Coastal Flood Warning in effect until 1 PM EDT Tuesday... 15:46 oleonard @wunder 02540 15:46 huginn bag: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is 15.4°C (11:45 AM EDT on October 29, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.22 in 990 hPa (Falling). Coastal Flood Warning in effect until 3 PM EDT Tuesday... 15:46 bag @wunder 06516 15:46 huginn bag: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Santa Barbra CA US, Santa Barbara, California is 13.9°C (8:16 AM PDT on October 29, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising). 15:46 bag @wunder 93109 15:23 jcamins Well, good! May it stay that way. 15:22 chris_n I think it is too far off the coast for us 15:22 chris_n rained some last evening, but not much in that way 15:21 chris_n a bit windy 15:21 * chris_n drives in another stake 15:21 jcamins chris_n: how's the weather? 15:19 huginn chris: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 11.0°C (10:55 AM EDT on October 29, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.51 in 999 hPa (Falling). 15:19 chris @wunder 28334 14:53 huginn nengard: The current temperature in Highland Park, Levittown, Pennsylvania is 11.6°C (10:52 AM EDT on October 29, 2012). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.14 in 987 hPa (Steady). Coastal Flood Warning in effect until 4 am EDT Tuesday... 14:53 nengard @wunder 19030 14:15 * oleonard wonders if slef uses Mollom too 14:15 oleonard Hah, I go looking for info on why our Drupal spam-catching module isn't working, find a comment from slef on why CAPTCHAs are bad :) 13:27 huginn jwagner: The current temperature in Hollywood, College Park, Maryland is 10.0°C (9:26 AM EDT on October 29, 2012). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.45 in 997 hPa (Falling). Flood Watch in effect through Tuesday evening... 13:27 jwagner @wunder 20740 12:56 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 3.3°C (8:50 AM EDT on October 29, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect from noon today to 5 PM EDT Tuesday... 12:56 oleonard @wunder 45701 12:55 jcamins It's raining a bit, and windy, but so far it's still weather that I would drag myself out to work in. 12:54 jcamins oleonard: gloomy. 12:54 oleonard How's the weather? 12:53 oleonard thanks jcamins, glad to hear it 12:53 jcamins For those who are concerned, I live one block from the nearest evacuation center, and 3+ blocks from the nearest evacuation zone B. 12:45 cait have fun ;) 12:44 * paul_p at a meeting 12:44 paul_p hi cait 12:43 cait hi paul_p 12:41 tcohen hi oleonard, good morning #koha! 12:41 oleonard Hi #koha 12:40 jcamins LGA is about four feet above the water. 12:39 jcamins (officials said anyone stranded at LGA was welcome to wait out the storm) 12:39 jcamins I wouldn't want to be taking shelter at LGA. 12:39 jcamins Jeez. 12:35 jcamins :) 12:35 drojf ok. may it stay that way. i hope you have duct taped everything ;) 12:34 jcamins drojf: it's gloomy out, but that's all, so far. 12:32 drojf hi jcamins. how is the situation & weather? 12:31 jcamins Good morning. 12:31 cait good morning jcamins! 12:30 jcamins Good morning, #koha. 10:09 mtj have a good one :) 10:09 cait bike carefully 10:08 eythian_ yes, in fact I'm about to bike home now 10:07 mtj yes and maybe 10:07 cait so I can finally finish my distance study reading without koha distracting me? :) 10:07 cait not sure I am making sense this morning :) and shouldn't you 2 go to bed sometime soon? 10:06 cait the standard files are translatable 10:06 cait mtj: only if you have your own files 10:06 mtj yow, i hadnt thought of the translating problems with xslt files :/ 10:05 cait and maintain those 10:04 cait one of the problems is that you have to provide a file for each language 10:04 cait like any customization you can do 10:04 cait but custom xslt has a number of problems 10:04 eythian_ but it's a good start 10:03 eythian_ ideally there'd be a nice selector with language awareness etc. 10:03 cait eythian: true 10:03 eythian_ I did notice that master allows custom xslt to some degree 10:03 mtj i can see many good reasons for only having one, not two 10:00 cait most extra features are outside of the xslt anyway, some are only available with xslt, it's like that already 10:00 cait I think keeping it around doesn't hurt anyone 10:00 mtj thats a happy mistake i made :p 09:59 mtj oops, me wrogn 09:58 cait show on xslt 09:58 cait mtj: hm in my tests it did 09:58 * magnuse would not miss the non-xslt display 09:57 eythian_ interesting, I thought it was separate 09:57 eythian_ oh, doesn't it? 09:57 mtj me too , but i just noticed that the star-ratings stuf doesnt show on xslt 09:56 eythian_ I pretty much always set installations to XSLT too 09:55 mtj agreed, i was just curious what y'all thought... 09:55 cait I think that's something for 3.12 and the mailing list 09:54 mtj pick the best one, and remove the other? 09:54 mtj the reason is, having to maintain 2 sets is a waste of our time 09:54 cait but I guessit's a bit slower for big systems maybe? not sure 09:54 cait I always use xslt so I would be not opposed to make it default 09:53 cait not sure 09:53 cait hm 09:53 mtj heres another random Q… should be plan to make the XSLT detail pages default, and remove non-xslt code from koha? 09:48 cait cool 09:48 mtj yep, i might write it up in a seperate bug, and link it to chris' bug 09:46 cait mtj: maybe document you findings somewhere even if you can't fix? it will give us a better idea about the actual problem 09:46 mtj but, they were both failing in the same way 09:46 cait ok, being mean - switching it back to needs signoff 09:46 mtj i thought on friday, that DOM was buggy, but GRS1 was working ok 09:45 mtj ah, the other thing i did comfirm was - both grs1 and dom are glitchy with availability stuff, in the same way 09:43 mtj but you have a different problem, to that 09:43 Zeki thanks 09:43 Zeki sorry I need close now, I will check tomorrow 09:43 mtj i mean… dont attempt to import a marcxml file, from the gui 09:41 Zeki what do you mean? 09:40 mtj also, koha doesnt import marcxml format from the gui, only from CLI 09:40 Zeki progress bar not showing anything 09:40 Zeki all result same 09:40 Zeki i tried a few sample marc records 09:40 mtj Zeki, are your marc records correct? 09:40 Zeki my koha version 3.8.6 09:39 rangi thats why my patch on 4481 was attempting to undo 09:39 rangi git show 3daa3143 09:39 Zeki anybody can help me about Stage MARC records for import? 09:39 rangi check this out 09:39 mtj ah, ok - thats great info 09:38 rangi if the index doesnt exist 09:38 rangi it will 09:38 mtj the weird thing for my bug was, zebra was returning an ERROR on some availibility search strings 09:38 rangi i still reckon my patch on 4481 will make it a ton better for marc21 09:37 Zeki I can not important any MARC records by using "Stage MARC records for import" 09:37 magnuse or jquery :-) 09:36 Zeki Hi, 09:35 cait or just css 09:35 magnuse rangi: excellent idea - a syspref to turn it on or off 09:34 rangi yep 09:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4481 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, koha.sekjal, Failed QA , Search's Limit to Available filters out many available items 09:34 mtj rangi, aaah i just spotted this, bug 4481 09:34 rangi or make it easily turned off, because for libraries who have lots of biblios with one item it works fine 09:34 magnuse hm, how do we decide what to do? 09:34 eythian_ whew, integrating to Google cloud messaging so that my server can send messages to apps is hard work. I think I have all but the actual sending wired up. 09:32 rangi could, or could just leave it 09:31 magnuse but until then? comment it out? 09:31 rangi without a fix in grs, the best thing to do is get the rewrite done, then it can be fixed 09:31 magnuse eythian_: lol 09:30 rangi its a known issue already 09:30 cait lol 09:30 mtj fyi: i do plan to log this bug, im just in the 'research' phase 09:29 eythian_ http://i.imgur.com/v4w0u.png 09:28 cait hmpf 09:28 rangi it worked fine pre joshua of course 09:28 rangi thats why no one actually cared enough since zebra 09:28 cait but by being off from the start it doesn't make things better :P 09:27 mtj yep, i agree :) 09:27 cait well true 09:27 rangi ever 09:27 rangi that doesnt match whats actually on the shelves 09:27 rangi in koha 09:27 rangi even if it was working perfectly 09:27 rangi the availabity is an approximation to reality 09:27 rangi that in a public library 09:27 rangi the reality is 09:26 cait so also those where there were still items available 09:26 cait it worked... but it removed all records where at least one item was checked out 09:26 mtj some good news , this 'availibilty' bug is very easy to replicate on a fresh db, with 2 bibs/items 09:26 cait hm just tested it in one of our 3.6.x installations 09:24 mtj ah thanks , i missed his followup 09:24 magnuse hehe 09:24 cait lol 09:24 rangi thats why he will be a great RM 09:24 rangi jcamins is always pessimistic 09:24 magnuse "jcamins: At that point, it will merely be very difficult." 09:24 magnuse "jcamins: It is impossible to make it work with GRS-1, and making it work with DOM will be impractical at least until I've finished the funded parts of the search rewrite." 09:23 cait I couldn't follow him really, but it did sound kinda pessimistic 09:23 magnuse http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2012-10-26#i_1114069 and onwards 09:23 cait I am not sue 09:23 cait maybe it would require more wokr 09:23 cait hm he said there is also a problem with dom 09:23 rangi with grs yes 09:23 cait mtj: jcamins_away basically said it was unfixable 09:23 rangi but with DOM it actually works right 09:23 cait ew 09:23 magnuse hehe 09:23 rangi and it worked better than most other systems 09:22 rangi because they looked like they worked 09:22 magnuse jcamins_away said something about that on friday, i think 09:22 cait rangi: so why did we keep advertising hte feature? :( 09:22 rangi theyve never worked 09:22 rangi apart from them actually sort of working with DOM, they have never worked correctly before that 09:22 mtj i bumped into this bug on friday, and have done some more testing… its really got me stumped :/ 09:22 cait it doesn't really work I think 09:21 rangi nope 09:21 mtj hey… has anyone spotted some weird 'limit on availibity' searches on Koha recently? 09:20 magnuse :-/ 09:19 cait on fedora? 09:18 magnuse ! 09:18 eythian_ hopefully not 2.2.9 09:16 magnuse :-) 09:15 rangi magnuse: not that i know of, maybe they will be soon, if we answer their questions ;) 09:15 magnuse kia ora mtj 09:15 magnuse rangi: do you know if their national library is using it? 09:15 mtj hey folks 09:14 rangi yup 09:13 magnuse ooh, a bug reported by someone from " National Library of Poland"? 09:04 eythian_ it's a good 40-50km to bike all the way around, but if you get a nice day, it's well worth it. 09:02 cait lol 09:01 rangi hehe 09:01 eythian_ (it wasn't windy when I started) 09:01 eythian_ I stopped at a dairy and the guy there was all "why are you biking now? can't you see it's really windy?" 08:59 rangi ah yeah 08:59 eythian_ (going out towards the airport) 08:59 eythian_ I once did that on a windy day. Big mistake. Got sea spray blown on me. 08:58 eythian_ at least, a lot of it 08:58 rangi plenty of cafes to stop at too 08:58 eythian_ it's all cycle lanes along there too 08:58 rangi be a nice ride in summer 08:58 eythian_ yeah, that's what I was thinking 08:57 rangi you could loop, over to kilbirnie, roseneath and round oriental bay 08:57 eythian_ yeah, the only thing between their place and the town belt is my place 08:57 magnuse ah yes 08:56 magnuse and green stuff all the way up to mount victoria 08:56 eythian_ yeah, that's cos it looks flat on google 08:56 eythian_ there's a hill in the way, but if I do that first, it might not be so bad. 08:56 magnuse looks like an easy walk 08:55 eythian_ yeah 08:55 eythian_ hmm, I didn't realise quite how close the harbour is. I should try biking that way one day. 08:55 magnuse close to the airport then - handy 08:54 magnuse thanks eythian_ 08:54 eythian_ it's not right there, but it's close 08:54 rangi he bought a house in ngaio gorge 08:53 eythian_ [off] http://goo.gl/maps/90uX4 <-- almost stalkervision 08:53 rangi it was 08:53 magnuse wadestown - is that where reed lives? :-) 08:52 rangi newtown 08:51 magnuse what's wizzyreas neighbourhood called? karori? 08:51 eythian_ But I can't find it at the moment 08:50 eythian_ I saw a great ISS pic of Wellington and Malborough sounds the other day 08:48 magnuse yay 08:48 rangi the antenna is covering wizzyrea's house! 08:48 magnuse nah, go to greenalnd in summer! 08:48 cait hehe 08:48 rangi https://twitpic.com/b8f37g 08:48 eythian_ mental note: don't go to Greenland 08:48 cait hm I still agree with magnuse - sounds about perfect :) 08:46 * magnuse has experienced -47 - also in greenland 08:46 eythian_ and the highest was 42 in Rangiora, perhaps a couple of hours drive from Ranfurly :) 08:45 magnuse ooh, that's a cool sign, with the letters blowing away :-) 08:45 rangi that also has a video of some poor lady trying to cross the road on one of our windy days last year 08:45 * magnuse has experienced 200+ kmph - in greenland 08:45 eythian_ The lowest temp recorded here is -25 in Ranfurly, which is about two days bike from Alexandra 08:44 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/capital-life/6111069/How-windy-is-Wellington-really 08:44 rangi thats the highest gust recorded in wellington 08:44 rangi 248kmph 08:43 eythian_ http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/wellington/wellington-city <-- click on "windiest" on the right 08:43 magnuse we have places that get -40 in the winter 08:43 magnuse and saying something is like norway is very general 08:43 rangi heh 08:43 magnuse yeah, there is that 08:43 eythian_ that site doesn't show the average wind speed however :) 08:42 magnuse ooh, those are good numbers rangi 08:42 eythian_ it was consistently hotter there than I've ever had in NZ outside Alex 08:42 eythian_ I've not been to Greece, but if it's anything like where I was in France, I don't buy it :) 08:42 magnuse hehe 08:41 rangi norway with a touch of greece apparently 08:41 rangi http://live.wellingtonnz.com/page/facts-and-stats.aspx#climate 08:40 magnuse we have the same effect from the ocean here in BOO 08:40 magnuse sounds perfect :-) 08:40 eythian_ it's a mixed blessing, on one hand, it doesn't get hot. On the other, it doesn't get cold. 08:39 magnuse temperature_buffers++ 08:39 eythian_ but we have a giant ocean being a temperature buffer, and a lot of wind. 08:39 eythian_ on a typical warm day, ~25ish 08:38 eythian_ on a _hot_ day, nearly 30 08:38 eythian_ it's about the most inland in the country, so it's semi-arid 08:38 magnuse how hot does wellington get in summer? 08:38 magnuse wow, i would have guessed it didn't get that hot that far south 08:38 eythian_ it was boring 08:38 eythian_ yeah, I spent a summer picking cherries in Roxborough (nearby) 08:37 rangi good for growing apricots :) 08:36 eythian_ yeah 08:36 eythian_ the hottest temperature on record in NZ, and the lowest are two towns very close to each other 08:36 magnuse 30C? 08:36 magnuse hehe, probably a good idea :-) 08:36 eythian_ where I end up sitting in the low-mid 30's trying to cope :) 08:36 eythian_ I only go there in summer 08:35 * magnuse wants to see the south island too 08:35 eythian_ yeah, my parents have a house in alex 08:35 magnuse the beer app? 08:35 rangi ahh 08:34 rangi alexandra gets cold too, and really hot too 08:34 eythian_ no, I'm not home yet. I'm working on my app. 08:34 rangi did you put your loud music on yet eythian_ ? 08:34 magnuse ah, that's pretty far south 08:33 eythian_ http://goo.gl/maps/Owv4U <-- near here 08:32 magnuse where was this? 08:32 magnuse wow 08:32 eythian_ I don't like snow any more 08:32 eythian_ often more like 20-30cm 08:31 magnuse ok 08:31 eythian_ I used to work on a sheep farm in spring (lambing time) and every second year or so we'd get more than a few cm of snow for a week or so 08:31 rangi its not summer until late november 08:31 magnuse ah 08:31 eythian_ and there's always a dump of snow in spring. 08:30 eythian_ no, spring 08:30 magnuse huh, isn't this meant to be summer in nz? 08:28 cait :) 08:27 eythian_ there was snow here a week or so ago (by here, I mean down south, and around mountains) 08:27 cait well it snowed a little bit all day, but it's too warm still 08:27 cait we had a bit of snow yesterday 08:25 * magnuse woke up to winter wonderland today - every branch of every tree coated in a couple of cm snow 08:18 eythian_ haha 08:17 cait well, you also missed out on swimming i nthe lake, so does the season really matter? :) 08:16 cait you missed out on the snow... 08:16 eythian_ I'm glad I came back when I did :) 08:15 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (9:00 PM NZDT on October 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). 08:15 rangi @wunder nzwn 08:13 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0°C (9:00 AM CET on October 29, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Rising). 08:13 cait @wunder Konstanz 08:09 wahanui alex_a: huh? 08:09 alex_a wahanui: o/ 08:09 wahanui bonjour, alex_a 08:09 alex_a bonjour 08:08 * cait waves 08:08 gaetan_B hello 08:06 lds hi rangi 08:05 rangi hi lds 08:05 lds hello 07:38 wahanui bonjour, reiveune 07:38 reiveune hello 07:36 wahanui hola, julian_m 07:36 julian_m hello 07:29 cait ah 07:29 cait have you seen them today? 07:28 eythian_ I don't yet, I'll let you know tomorrow ;) 07:28 magnuse how cool is that! 07:28 cait :) 07:28 eythian_ yep 07:28 magnuse hey eythian_ are you and wizzy neighbours now? 07:23 magnuse i thought the same thing 07:23 magnuse yup 07:23 cait i thought they were using windows... now it makes less sense than before 07:23 magnuse wow 07:22 eythian_ yeah. 07:22 cait yes 07:21 magnuse huh, the philipines are actively installing 2.2.9 on fedora? 07:17 cait yep :) 07:10 magnuse w00t for wizzyrea and trea and spud arriving safely! 07:05 magnuse rangi++ for these stats: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2012/10/28/bug-resolution-statistics-for-2012-to-date/ 07:03 magnuse early for a holiday? 07:02 cait kia ora magnuse :) 07:02 magnuse kia ora cait 06:54 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (7:20 AM CET on October 29, 2012). Conditions: Snow Showers. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). 06:54 magnuse @wunder boo 06:47 * magnuse waves at #koha in general 06:45 magnuse Oak 05:12 * Oak waves 04:25 mtj if you go to med-food after 5:30 its mostly half-price too 04:23 eythian it seems to be working for me, anyway, but I had it in my head that Koha didn't. 04:23 eythian So we support using 'and' and 'or' in the basic OPAC search? 04:00 eythian I need to go there at some stage, I've been missing that kind of stuff since France. 04:00 eythian like, grocery type stuff. 04:00 eythian they're also good for food. 04:00 eythian oh yeah 03:56 rangi Mediterranean food warehouse does wood fired pizzza 03:55 rangi If you can't be bothered cooking 03:55 rangi Oh I remember what I was gonna say 03:47 wizzyrea sure, go ahead ;) 03:47 eythian (disclaimer: I don't think my speakers can do "really loud") 03:46 eythian I won't be going home for a while yet, but how about I put on some really loud music at 11pm? 03:45 wizzyrea lol cool 03:43 rangi right, home time for me, ill wave at newtown as i go past wizzyrea 03:31 eythian later 03:31 eythian yeah, the rain is a showstopper often 03:31 rangi heh 03:31 jcamins_away Night. 03:31 * jcamins_away heads to bed. 03:31 * jcamins_away heard it's supposed to rain. 03:31 jcamins_away It's the rain that will keep me from going out. 03:29 eythian I mean, I wouldn't go biking in that, but walking would be OK 03:29 jcamins_away I was looking at the animation. 03:28 jcamins_away Oh, I didn't see the numbers. 03:28 eythian that's only 58kph 03:27 eythian top speed of 36mph 03:27 eythian that doesn't actually look all that windy 03:27 jcamins_away A bit breezy here. 03:26 rangi wooooo 03:26 rangi http://hint.fm/wind/ 03:25 eythian London has some great ones, also where the tube goes above-ground there're often fake house frontages that it goes behind, you wouldn't notice them if you weren't looking. 03:25 jcamins_away Whoah. There used to be two B trains and two R trains in NYC. 03:22 * jcamins_away really regrets they didn't do the E76th St connection. 03:20 jcamins_away http://project.wnyc.org/news-maps/lost-subways/ 03:18 jcamins_away I'll find it for you. 03:18 eythian nope 03:18 jcamins_away Did you see the map of the NYC subway system as it was designed? 03:17 eythian I think I'll just have to add him to my rss reader. 03:17 eythian I have a bunch of his other posts opened for reading too. 03:17 eythian it really is 03:17 jcamins_away eythian: that's fascinating. 03:03 wizzyrea lol naw 02:59 eythian unless it's the submarineway I guess 02:58 eythian that sounds impractical. 02:58 jcamins_away eythian: our subway is half-flooded when it isn't raining at all. 02:58 eythian http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2011/10/26/the-northern-line-tunnel-that-was-bombed-and-flooded-in-1940-and-is-still-sealed-shut/ <-- also this sort of thing. 02:57 eythian (London has that sort of thing) 02:57 eythian jcamins_away: your subway needs some giant subway-sized rubber stoppers 02:57 rangi we thought you busted the nz internets already 02:57 rangi wb wizzyrea 02:52 rangi heh 02:52 jcamins_away I'm going to have to conclude that yes, subway service has been impacted. 02:52 jcamins_away The subway has been shut down for at least 4 hours. 02:52 jcamins_away Some have expressed concern that the hurricane might impact subway service. 02:44 eythian !! 02:38 rangi or maybe she walked downstairs :) 02:38 rangi oh noes wizzyrea broke your internets 02:22 rangi hey mtj 02:22 mtj hi peeps, hi wizzyrea 02:21 rangi heh 02:21 eythian well, it's all downhill to get there. And once you're there you're committed to getting back. 02:20 rangi vitamin d helps fight jet lag 02:20 rangi if you are up to a walk that is :) 02:18 rangi *nod* 02:18 eythian It's a nice day out there, I'd suggest going wandering up and down Riddiford street to see what shops there are that would be useful. 02:18 rangi on the aisle with all the lightbulbs and stuff 02:18 rangi theyd be ok quality 02:17 rangi you could get a few from new world 02:17 * wizzyrea ponders this 02:15 rangi yup 02:15 cjh also true 02:14 eythian although the $2 shop ones will probably break as soon as you put a damp jacket on them 02:14 rangi heh 02:14 cjh heh 02:14 wahanui $2 is a really good bet. 02:14 rangi $2? 02:14 cjh $2 02:14 cjh hahaha 02:14 wahanui okay, cjh. 02:14 cjh $2 is also a really good bet. 02:14 wizzyrea thanks :) 02:13 cjh [off] wizzyrea https://plus.google.com/103344844559412068363/about?hl=en 02:13 rangi probably has them too 02:13 rangi or the $2 shop which is right next to the new world 02:13 rangi hmm yeah, you could get them at warehouse, altho in walking distance, the new world will have them 02:11 cjh warehouse maybe? 02:11 wizzyrea what is the best place to get things such as clothes hangers 02:10 wizzyrea I dig this house though. 02:10 wizzyrea that must have been it ^.^ 02:10 rangi in kilbirnie 02:10 cjh heh 02:10 rangi pak n slave? 02:09 wizzyrea it was yellow 02:09 wizzyrea we went to... gah I can't remember the place but it wasn't a new world 01:27 kathryn yeah, they've been to a supermarket, not sure which :) 01:27 cjh o/ 01:26 rangi cya tcohen 01:26 * tcohen is going to sleep, Fringe episode first, and waves #koha 01:25 eythian ah right 01:25 eythian there is a bus artery as soon as you get to the main street, which is very easy to get in to town with. 01:25 rangi i think kathryn's parents took them there on the way from the airport 01:24 eythian wizzyrea: useful things to know, if you need simple things there's a dairy about 7 mins walk away (head towards Newtown, you'll see it) and a supermarket in Newtown proper which is probably 15 minutes or so. Go to newtown, walk left. It's called New World and has big signs etc. 01:14 rangi heh 01:13 * ibeardslee will be quiet about Captain Bligh and my family tree 01:13 ibeardslee eythian: I'm going to try and get one of my black belts to take a class for me so I can have a go 01:12 jcamins_away wizzyrea: it's only 9pm. 01:11 cjh wizzyrea: welcome to nz! 01:07 eythian ibeardslee: Wednesdays is when I stab people, same problem. 01:06 rangi hurricane blew it downt the street? 01:06 wizzyrea why aren't you in bed? :D 01:06 wahanui jcamins is, like, brilliant 01:06 wizzyrea hey jcamins! 01:05 * jcamins_away waves to wizzyrea. 00:58 wizzyrea hehe 00:58 rangi id blame them then :) 00:57 wizzyrea i am CERTAIN that at least one of the bags was inspected 00:57 rangi they usually leave a note if they open it 00:57 wizzyrea hmm no 00:57 rangi didnt have a TSA sticker inside? 00:56 rangi yeah that is odd 00:56 wizzyrea no idea how that happened. 00:56 wizzyrea it was broken in a checked bag, that was inside another suitcase. 00:56 rangi good :) 00:56 wizzyrea no, actually 00:56 wizzyrea but the big one made it :) 00:56 rangi was in the carryon? 00:56 rangi oh no 00:56 rangi oh? 00:56 wizzyrea soren's small sonic screwdriver 00:56 wizzyrea all of our bags made it, and only one casualty 00:55 rangi excellent :) 00:55 wizzyrea customs and bioseurity was really fast 00:55 ibeardslee oh bother, Wednesdays is when I hit people 00:55 wizzyrea had 2 hours in auckland, that was nice 00:55 wizzyrea we waited for 15 then got on the plane 00:55 kathryn eek 00:55 wizzyrea had about an hour in LA - that was just about too close 00:54 rangi ahh thats a tight layover 00:54 wizzyrea we landed in denver had a 30 minute layover, pretty much just enough to get to the gate and get on the next plane 00:54 ibeardslee oh there we go 00:54 eythian ibeardslee: yeah, well. umm, I don't know how to break this to you... 00:54 rangi ibeardslee: check your emails 00:54 wizzyrea the trip itself was pretty epic 00:54 ibeardslee hmm he hasn't asked me 00:54 eythian it actually sounds like an interesting idea 00:54 wizzyrea well I'll try anything once 00:53 wizzyrea lol! 00:53 rangi hopefully everyone who wants to gets a sail. 00:53 rangi need sailing experience. We will rotate crews over the weeks so that 00:53 rangi To do this we need a crew of between 3 and 7 people each week. You don't 00:53 wizzyrea lol. 00:53 wizzyrea I would need some training on that 00:53 rangi (well he asked everyone) 00:53 eythian he's been trying to recruit everyone for that 00:53 wizzyrea ! 00:53 rangi don asks if you want to crew a catalyst yacht for sailing races 00:53 wizzyrea oh yea - it was kind of epic 00:53 kathryn sounds like he had a great trip! 00:52 wizzyrea lulz. 00:52 wizzyrea about 6 of it on my lap 00:52 rangi ohh perfect 00:52 wizzyrea he slept about 8 of the 12 hours 00:52 wizzyrea oh yea 00:52 rangi how's soren? survive the trip ok? 00:51 rangi :) 00:51 wizzyrea skyping thatch's mom now 00:51 wizzyrea oh yes 00:51 eythian oh, the weather is supposed to be good this week too, so good timing. 00:50 rangi doing all your emails to let ppl know you arrived safe and sound? 00:48 wizzyrea hm, no, not especially wired 00:48 rangi heh eyeah 00:48 eythian wait til either 6pm when you fall asleep, or 3am when you are still awake :) 00:48 rangi thats good if you can stay awake til night you will feel better tomorrow 00:48 kathryn wired? 00:48 wizzyrea while it is true that I didn't sleep much on the plane, I don't feel especially tired. 00:48 wizzyrea hmm... i'm considering the tired question 00:47 eythian you should come out for lunch or something one of these days when you've recovered a bit more. 00:46 kathryn real hug soon! 00:46 rangi tired? 00:46 wizzyrea big hugs all around 00:46 wizzyrea hiyas! 00:46 wizzyrea indeed! 00:46 kathryn hello wizzyrea! :D 00:46 * wizzyrea thanks eythian for the wifi access :) 00:45 eythian so the internet worked then? :) 00:45 wizzyrea :D 00:45 rangi hey look its nz wizzyrea ! 00:45 * wizzyrea waves 00:42 rangi photo 6 is my favourite 00:41 rangi best fun run ever! 00:41 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/capital-life/7876549/Photos-Zombie-Run-on-Somes-Island 00:28 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 00:28 eythian @later tell tcohen I just set up an instance, ran koha-start-indexer, and it didn't work. 00:13 tcohen (or needs sign-off, if the disabling followup needs to be signed) 00:10 tcohen otherwise I think it should be left as signed off 00:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup 00:10 tcohen eythian, do u have a way to reproduce the problem that made bug 8773 fail qa?