Time  Nick           Message
23:30 * eythian      is waiting for the curry announcment
23:29 ibeardslee     yeah .. mutter windows channels brain fade .. hey lunch time
23:28 eythian        ibeardslee: wormy doesn't live here.
23:28 ibeardslee     awesome
23:27 ibeardslee     rangi: WR #200160
22:14 cait           now I am really gone :)
22:14 cait           on fb even :P
22:12 drojf          veggie pr0n?
22:11 cait           jcamins_away: don't forget the photo!!
22:09 drojf          i wonder what the text is supposed to mean then
22:09 drojf          jcamins_away: yes, i would love it
22:09 * jcamins_away dashes off to pick up lots of veggies.
22:08 jcamins_away   drojf: that'd be a cool feature.
22:08 eythian        bye cait
22:08 drojf          good night cait
22:08 cait           good night all :)
22:08 cait           should sleep :)
22:08 drojf          i just found it in 3.8.5
22:08 cait           ignore me
22:08 cait           ah, I was looking at a 3.6 today, probably not there
22:07 cait           was that pushed?
22:07 cait           hm
22:07 drojf          when modifying a marc framework field there is "(if you select a value here, the indicators will be limited to the authorized value list)". does that actually work? i was slightly thrilled when i saw it and anticipated pull down menus for indicators, but they did not really turn up
22:05 eythian        haha
22:05 drojf          eythian: in that case, to remind me of the humbleness within the koha community ;)
22:03 eythian        drojf: what do you use your pillows for?
21:50 drojf          "Please solve the issue. " is a sentence i'd like to see stitched onto a pillow case more often.
21:41 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Unsung heroes of Koha 26 – The Ada Lovelace Day Edition http://t.co/4z59eEVo"
21:24 cait           th
21:23 eythian        bye
21:22 trea           bye magnuse!
21:22 rangi          cya magnuse
21:22 * magnuse      wishes #koha a good night or other time of the day
21:20 magnuse        woohoo :-)
21:20 cait           yep :)
21:20 magnuse        cait: home at last?
21:19 cait           heh
21:14 eythian        damn, ruined my own lame joke
21:14 eythian        the  has topped working eh?
21:12 cait           now it's ok :)
21:12 cait           the s had stopped working
21:11 jcamins_away   cait: what did it ever do to you?
21:10 wizzyrea       lol.
21:10 eythian        heh
21:10 wizzyrea       it could be nice
21:10 wizzyrea       well, we do like beer
21:09 wizzyrea       LOL
21:09 eythian        so, you want to be here so much you're willing to move in right next to me huh? That's dedication ;)
21:09 eythian        hi wizzyrea.
21:09 * wizzyrea     waves
21:08 * cait         takes apart her keyboard
21:02 * drojf        jumps on the bandwagon
21:02 drojf          hi
21:00 rangi          hi
20:58 cait           hi
20:58 eythian        hi
20:36 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @ranginui: "Unsung heroes of Koha 26 - The Ada Lovelace Day Edition  http://t.co/vJm1A6m8  #kohails"
20:11 oleonard       Bye #koha
20:05 magnuse        testing++
20:04 rangi          yup
20:04 oleonard       I'm glad that the test is at least *supposed* to catch it :)
20:03 rangi          but yeah, that is untranslatable
20:03 rangi          hmm test is missing it,
20:02 reiveune1      bye
20:01 oleonard       admin/transport-cost-matrix.tt line 12
20:01 rangi          lemme look
20:00 rangi          ahh then yes, yes it should
20:00 oleonard       And yes it has been pushed.
20:00 oleonard       No, in the template.
20:00 rangi          ?
20:00 rangi          is it in a .js
20:00 rangi          ah perhaps not
19:59 oleonard       do the tests catch it if it's in JavaScript?
19:59 rangi          has it been pushed oleonard ?
19:59 rangi          hmm the tests should catch that
19:59 jcamins        Yuck.
19:58 oleonard       Not for the transport cost matrix feature
19:57 jcamins        oleonard: doesn't it?
19:56 oleonard       We should have this down by now.
19:56 oleonard       Violating coding guidelines and making strings untranslatable should fail a patch!
19:20 huginn         cait-m_: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 9.0°C (9:00 PM CEST on October 16, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
19:20 cait-m_        @wunder konstanz
19:14 rambutan       Ah, well, I was working between 10:30 and 11:15.
19:10 rangi          writer of the first algorithm and all that :)
19:09 rangi          ie all of them
19:07 oleonard       You missed the 45 minutes of silence in her honor rambutan. It was between 10:30 and 11:15 this morning!
19:05 rambutan       If we may, a small tribute to "Ada Lovelace Day"  today, October 16th.   Ada was, of course, the progenatory of one of the greatest programming languages in the world.
19:03 rangi          back
18:59 jcamins        [off] I hadn't noticed that. I didn't bother reading the message, since I have nothing to say on the subject of RFID.
18:56 oleonard       [off] I'm still getting over the "use RFID with Koha" message on the list... Maybe next time lead with "Don't know how to configure Apache?"
18:51 rangi          My stop brb
18:51 rangi          So yeah was when being pushed
18:50 rangi          Ah Yep
18:50 jcamins        There's a bug number in the subject.
18:49 rangi          But still no bug number
18:49 rangi          No x
18:49 rangi          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=12802
18:48 nengard        not on purpose :)
18:46 oleonard       :x wasn't a smiley of you sealing it with a kiss?
18:44 nengard        not :x
18:44 nengard        :q
18:44 nengard        I use vi for writing commit messages
18:44 rangi          Unless you have started using vim
18:43 rangi          I think so
18:43 nengard        or was it the sign off person who did that?
18:43 nengard        hmmmm how did i do that?
18:36 rangi          Release notes will miss it,  ill amend if I pick it
18:35 rangi          Yep no bug number
18:34 jcamins        Yeah, I wondered about that.
18:34 jcamins        :x?
18:34 rangi          http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=7d2dc13db02175aa6e009645fa01fac403c045a7
18:34 rangi          What is wrong with this commit message
18:33 rangi          Starter for 5 points
18:32 jcamins        lol
18:32 drojf          if we had a google group on the other hand…
18:30 drojf          lol oleonard who would have expected that. you said wanted to do the "is zebra running" via twitter :P
18:29 oleonard       As I did. We'll see.
18:29 jcamins        I suggest "if you send an e-mail to the mailing list or ask on IRC you might get help" is a good response.
18:28 oleonard       Like I suggested asking a robot.
18:27 jcamins        oleonard: I'm shocked.
18:27 oleonard       My suggestion to @shumailakhan08 on Twitter resulted only in @shumailakhan08 asking *me* for help :|
18:26 jcamins        Gah mornin' to you too.
18:26 rangi          Morning
18:26 rangi          Gah
18:19 trea           hey #koha
17:52 jcamins        :x?
17:50 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
17:50 jenkins_koha   * Paul Poulain: Bug 7143 follow-up replace tabs by 4 spaces
17:50 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Bug 7143 : New committer to history
17:50 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Bug 7143: Adding new developers to the history file
17:50 jenkins_koha   * nengard: :x
17:50 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #908: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/908/
16:46 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143 follow-up replace tabs by 4 spaces <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a327747c1052e940b24c8cf4ce4deb6dc738d3ae> / Bug 7143 : New committer to history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9fd6082ca9adef2da93d758c15c9bd0e36e5b709> / Bug 7143: Adding new developers to the history file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=971c872419f9
16:40 jenkins_koha   Starting build #908 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
16:28 nengard        LOL
16:27 oleonard       This is what happens at international library conferences: "My MARC is worse!" "No, my MARC is worse!"
16:21 jcamins        oleonard: I think UNIMARC is probably around the MARC21 levels of fun.
16:20 drojf          lol
16:20 jcamins        Ergo, NORMARC = -fun
16:20 oleonard       Do UNIMARC now!
16:20 jcamins        NORMARC = like MARC21, only worse
16:20 jcamins        MARC21 = somewhat less fun
16:20 jcamins        MARC = not fun
16:20 jcamins        Ready?
16:19 jcamins        drojf: let's consider this.
16:13 drojf          hm funny. some were translated, others just copied. i guess it won't be much fun to use that now
16:10 drojf          just saw that they were just copied before
16:10 drojf          magnuse: i have actually translated them so far. i bet there are a lot of people cataloguing normarc in german ;)
16:01 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Separate po files for different MARC dialects
16:01 magnuse        drojf: if i had the time i would fix Bug 7939...
15:55 magnuse        just ignore (copy) them :-)
15:43 drojf          okay then :)
15:39 jcamins        magnuse fixed some bugs and now the strings are fuzzy again.
15:38 wahanui        i guess normarc is at http://www.nb.no/fag/kompetansesenter/kunnskapsorganisering/dnk/normarc or mostly a subset of marc21
15:38 jcamins        drojf: NORMARC.
15:38 drojf          uh, why do i get to translate norwegian terms in pootle for 3.6?
15:34 jcamins        45 cards to be precise... it was 3 pages of 15.
15:34 jcamins        It was faster than using the patron card creator.
15:33 jcamins        Actually, I _did_ do fifty cards by hand, now that I think about it.
15:33 libsysguy      also what jcamins just said
15:33 jcamins        That I could do fifty cards by hand faster than I could change the code.
15:32 libsysguy      Morthland: what is your timeframe?
15:32 jcamins        Note: I haven't tried, but that's my gut instinct.
15:32 jcamins        I'd say you're looking at several orders of magnitude more work to hack the server, and a good chance of breaking your production system.
15:32 Morthland      Googling mail merge
15:31 * jcamins      would learn about mail merge or do it individually.
15:30 Morthland      Should be about 50
15:30 Morthland      I don't know what a Mail Merge is.
15:30 jcamins        Out of curiosity, how many patrons?
15:30 jcamins        That's why you do a mail merge.
15:30 Morthland      I don't want to do them individually.
15:29 jcamins        Huh?
15:29 Morthland      I don't know how to import from excel.
15:28 jcamins        Nice mail merge.
15:28 jcamins        LibreOffice, perhaps.
15:28 libsysguy      ^^
15:28 * jcamins      would create the cards with something other than Koha.
15:28 Morthland      Admin wants it on the IDs
15:28 Morthland      Our institution has an official font.
15:28 Morthland      ha.
15:28 libsysguy      :p jk Morthland
15:27 libsysguy      jcamins he wants to use ComicSans
15:27 jcamins        Morthland: out of curiosity, why is changing the font so important?
15:25 jcamins        Koha uses PDF for patron cards.
15:25 jcamins        Postscript.
15:25 Morthland      Right.
15:25 Morthland      PS?
15:25 jcamins        They're PS fonts.
15:25 jcamins        Of course not.
15:25 Morthland      I think I will look at the code first, though.
15:25 Morthland      I don't know where else the font could be pulled from. I can't find any in the Koha package.
15:24 jcamins        I suspect you'll find that won't work, though.
15:24 Morthland      I will try that then.
15:24 jcamins        I don't know.
15:23 Morthland      Could I replace one of the TTFS or OTFS for one of the fonts available by default on the koha server?
15:22 jcamins        (long answer: yes, but I think it would require a fair amount of coding, and the only person who knows that section of the code isn't going to be around until the end of December at the earliest)
15:22 Morthland      Would it be worth taking a look at the code?
15:21 jcamins        No.
15:21 Morthland      Is there a way to import my own fonts into the patron card creator?
15:15 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @jsicot: "je sens que je vais avoir mal à la tête… #gestionDesRelances #kohails"
14:32 drojfx         i hope drojf39°C is not taken ;)
14:31 drojfx         i know :( i may have some fever, is that cool?
14:30 cait-m         thats not very exciting
14:30 drojfx         heh
14:30 cait-m         ah
14:30 cait-m         scary
14:29 drojfx         cait-m: on the tablet while notebook running too
14:29 oleonard       drojf version X?
14:29 cait-m         are you one of the xmen now?
14:28 cait-m         x?
14:28 drojfx         lol
14:27 oleonard       yes, we're always looking for ways to draw out the "is zebra running" conversation over the course of hours via Twitter
14:27 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @oleonard: "@shumailakhan08, @kohails is not a person, it's a community. Try the mailing list or IRC to get assistance. http://t.co/l6rWuVXA #kohails"
14:25 drojfx         support via twitter sounds like a great idea
14:20 cait-m         on twitter?
14:19 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @shumailakhan08: "@kohails I want some help in koha , Can anyone please help me ?"
14:08 cait-m         i was guessing  :-)
14:08 cait-m         sign
14:07 cait-m         it said tjat on the sifn above
14:06 matts          Sarreguemines is a different (isolated) town
14:06 cait-m         hmm ok
14:06 matts          cait-m, nope, saarbrücken is Sarrebruck :)
14:05 cait-m         the french name for saarbrücken i think
14:04 cait-m         matts - sarreguemines
13:54 cait-m         bbl
13:54 cait-m         ok time to head to my platform
13:54 matts          Not direct is faster... seems strange, but ok :)
13:53 cait-m         faster this way
13:53 cait-m         yep not direct
13:53 cait-m         people next table are talking french  :-)
13:53 matts          And it's through Strasbourg ? Not an direct Germany trip ?
13:52 cait-m         going home from saarbrücken
13:52 matts          héhé... Where are you headed to ?
13:51 cait-m         :-)
13:51 cait-m         my train connection is via strasbourg today - made me think if you
13:51 matts          i'm around
13:51 matts          hello cait-m
13:50 cait-m         matts around?
13:50 cait-m         me too
13:46 jcamins_away   Yeah, it trips me up every time.
13:45 oleonard       Really? I thought abort really meant abort. "To restore the original branch and stop patching run "git am --abort""
13:44 jcamins_away   oleonard: that's the way it's always been, if there's a conflict.
13:44 oleonard       I don't remember it working this way before
13:44 oleonard       Did something change in git resulting in "git am --abort" leaving unstaged changes?
13:42 cait-m         :-)
13:28 * magnuse      waves
13:14 trea           hi cait-m
13:12 cait-m         hi koha
13:08 oleonard       Sometimes people emailing the mailing list just need a good reference interview.
12:22 Herwig         ;)
12:15 oleonard       Hey #koha
12:02 Herwig         Hmz i did put my items.homebranch and items.holdingbranch in 952$a en p52$b but afther importing the marc file no items there hmz
11:40 Herwig         gonna try that thx for the tip
11:38 huginn         slef: unknown tag 952
11:38 wahanui        The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
11:38 slef           @marc 952
11:38 Herwig         i look at the 952 just a sec
11:37 Herwig         i wanna do them in group cause i have 50000 items
11:36 slef           Herwig: I think I might have put the item records (952 tags) into the marc files before importing them.
11:36 slef           Herwig: you view each record in the admin and add items to them on their item tabs.
11:26 Herwig         Is there a user who can help me ... i just imported a group of marc files in my koha now it is imported but how do i get all these files an item location ... for the Batch item modification i need a item number file ... i did try putting the numbers in a txt file but that did not work ... anny tips :oP
11:22 slef           hey Herwig
11:20 Herwig         Hey Koha people
09:24 magnuse        but rebuild_zebra seemed to be using a lot of cpu too
09:24 magnuse        apache was doing a lot of work
09:22 Viktor         rangi Seems to be some kind of overload of the server. Just wonder if it's a targetet attack or just some botnet playing around.
09:09 rangi          OOMing?
09:04 Viktor         Exciting to see the first fallthrough we've had with the server :)
09:04 magnuse        Viktor: yup, i see it
09:04 Viktor         slowed down and then died again :( magnuse
08:50 magnuse        Viktor: sure :-)
08:50 Viktor         magnuse - up and running now. Thanks :) Lets switch to email with reports on what happened :)
08:48 rangi          jcamins_away: am now
08:47 jcamins_away   paul_p: is joubu around?
08:45 Viktor         Sorry people for the public discussion of this - it was just the quickest way.
08:45 jcamins_away   That one.
08:45 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8890 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Packages can't be built on master, db dependent test
08:45 jcamins_away   Bug 8890
08:45 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8990 was not found.
08:45 * jcamins_away offers up a counter patch for bug 8990.
08:44 Viktor         (great magnuse - we hade just logged into viktor.priv.bibkat.no and typed "viktor" into checkhout-box. Got a software error which is very unusual)
08:43 magnuse        Viktor: i'm on it!
08:39 drojf          frozen :P
08:39 Viktor         Just went offline at a demo
08:39 magnuse        ouch!
08:39 Viktor         Is magnuse by the keyboard? Server/s seems down :/
08:35 jcamins_away   Too early, I'd say.
08:33 paul_p         hello jcamins_away good (very early) morning !
08:32 jcamins_away   Good morning, paul_p.
08:28 paul_p         good morning #koha
08:03 jcamins_away   rangi: eythian: either of you around?
07:41 * drojfx       has a cold, puts on a mask and sits in the quarantine corner
07:30 * mveron       is cts now, close to screen, should put the glasses
07:28 cait-m         afk now
07:28 cait-m         :-)
07:27 * mveron       waves to cait-m :-)
07:26 mveron         hi drojfx  :-)
07:25 huginn         mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 3.8°C (9:02 AM CEST on October 16, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
07:25 mveron         @wunder Allschwil
07:25 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on October 16, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
07:25 magnuse        @wunder boo
07:25 drojfx         hi mveron
07:25 huginn         drojfx: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 6.2°C (9:13 AM CEST on October 16, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
07:25 drojfx         @wunder berlin, germany
07:23 mveron         Good daytime #koha
07:16 drojfx         hi cait-m
07:14 huginn         cait-m: Quote #35: "<sekjal> it seemed like a good idea at the time...." (added by jwagner at 06:58 PM, September 17, 2009)
07:14 cait-m         @quote random
00:58 wahanui        okay, eythian.
00:58 eythian        wahanui: ibeardslee is also a trouble maker.
00:58 wahanui        ...but ibeardslee is closer to the merengues at BOC...
00:58 eythian        wahanui: ibeardslee is a trouble maker.
00:57 ibeardslee     heh .. trouble maker
00:57 wahanui        okay, eythian.
00:57 eythian        wahanui: that's right is also <reply>no it's not.
00:57 wahanui        eythian: I forgot i know
00:57 eythian        wahanui: forget I know
00:57 eythian        err
00:57 wahanui        OK, eythian.
00:57 eythian        wahanui: I know is also <reply>no it's not.
00:56 ibeardslee     Oak: ^^ maybe that's what they meant.
00:56 rangi          http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/1638
00:55 wahanui        I know.
00:55 rangi          that's right
00:53 ibeardslee     rangi: is that correct?
00:53 ibeardslee     I understand that Katipo (original company commissioned to do the work) was run by a woman, and the Horowhenua Library who paid for the original was run by a woman at the time.
00:51 * Oak          waves
00:51 Oak            now I sleep.
00:51 Oak            but yes, the next time someone asks me, i'll take two names :) yours and hers.
00:49 Oak            now i go back to sleep
00:46 Oak            so i just remembered his question after 2-3 weeks at 5:30AM and just checked... :)
00:45 Oak            ah cool
00:44 Oak            on my MLIS viva, the viva guy asked me who Koha, I said you mean who started work on it? he said yes, I said Chris Cormack. he said no it was a lady, I said no I believe Chris was the very first...
00:44 rangi          click on the first commit column to sort
00:44 rangi          http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/authors.html#
00:42 Oak            http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/koha-devel/2002-04/msg00112.html
00:42 Oak            :) cool
00:41 rangi          yep
00:38 wahanui        I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
00:38 Oak            rangi?
00:38 Oak            so the first two developers/coders of Koha were Chris Cormack (rangi) and Olwen Williams?
00:37 * Oak          waves