Time Nick Message 22:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8869 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Duplicate member check doesn't disable submit button on bottom. 22:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8863 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , When clearing a patron attribute, they are all cleared 22:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8851 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , strange blue bar above serials results 22:04 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8869 - Duplicate member check doesn't disable submit button on bottom. 22:04 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8863: When clearing a patron attribute, they are all cleared 22:04 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8851 - strange blue bar above serials results 22:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #878: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/878/ 20:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #878 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8175 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , items.materials check logs error or displays incorrectly in details.pl 20:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8843 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Cannot export bibliographic records by call number 20:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8718 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Normal catalogue detail view in staff client doesn't show missing serials or subscription history note 20:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8766 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , OPACBaseURL still called as OPACBaseurl in many files 20:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7643 normal, P5 - low, ---, I.Brown, Pushed to Master , Can't upload and import zipped file of patron images 20:53 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8175 - check logs error or displays incorrectly in details.pl 20:53 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8843 - Cannot export bibliographic records by call number 20:53 jenkins_koha * dcook: Bug 8718 - Normal catalogue detail view in staff client doesn't show missing serials or subscription history note 20:53 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8766 - OPACBaseURL still called as OPACBaseurl in many files 20:53 jenkins_koha * I.Brown: Bug 7643 - Can't upload and import zipped file of patron images 20:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #877: SUCCESS in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/877/ 20:51 cait you too oleonard :) 20:50 oleonard Have a good weekend everyone 20:46 jcamins And one doesn't use halon in a home. 20:45 jcamins cait: the surge protector did not make a shorted out-y buzzing sound last week. 20:44 cait i am sure i thas seen some thunderstorms already 20:43 jcamins (why yes, this client lives in a tall building overlooking the river) 20:43 jcamins oleonard: I hadn't considered that if there's a ground fault in this client's surge protector and there's a lightning storm it could be very dramatic. 20:42 jcamins oleonard: that's a horrifying thought. 20:41 oleonard A race against time and lightning! 20:41 jcamins I hope it doesn't. I want to buy a surge protector, which means going out and finding somewhere to buy a surge protector. 20:40 jcamins Yes. 20:39 cait you talk about your place :) 20:39 cait aah 20:39 jcamins cait: I look out the window at the tree branches whipping in the wind and the clouds, and reflect that I didn't bring a waterproof jacket. 20:38 cait ah, how do you predict that? 20:37 jcamins It looks like it is going to storm. 20:35 cait hm, das sollte funktionieren 20:34 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.6°C (10:30 PM CEST on October 12, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 20:34 cait :) 20:33 cait @wunder Konstanz 20:33 balin cataloging --> z39.50 search 20:33 jcamins Where are you following a link to that from? 20:32 jcamins Well, at least we've ruled out a possibility. 20:32 balin jcamins: filling that url doesn' change the problem. 20:32 jcamins oleonard: hm. 20:32 cait ah :) 20:32 balin cait: ja. 20:32 cait ? 20:32 cait oh balin - are you speaking German 20:31 oleonard Mine is empty too. I wouldn't expect that to cause an error under normal circumstances. 20:31 cait what does the url say you are looking at right now? 20:31 jcamins https://bibliothek-admin.<YOU>.net 20:31 balin which is what? 20:31 jcamins Try filling that in with the URL to your staff client. 20:30 balin its empty. 20:30 jcamins That's the one. 20:30 jcamins oleonard: what does everyone have against Firefox 16.0.1? 20:30 oleonard staffClientBaseURL 20:29 oleonard Geez did Mozilla pull Firefox 16.0.1 too? 20:29 jcamins Somewhere in Staff client. 20:29 jcamins I may have just made that name up. 20:29 jcamins balin: I suspect a problem with your IntranetBase syspref. 20:28 balin Ha! That works! 20:27 jcamins Try navigating directly to the /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/z3950_search.pl page. 20:26 jcamins Yeah, that is not an actual error, and has nothing to do with the problem you're seeing. 20:25 balin But that refers to something before the search? 20:25 balin [error] [client 10.10.10.1] [Fri Oct 12 19:57:30 2012] z3950servers.pl: Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/z3950servers.pl line 103., referer: https://bibliothek-admin.<ME>.net/cgi-bin/koha/admin/z3950servers.pl 20:24 jcamins /var/log/koha/[instance]/koha-error-log (or something like that) 20:24 jcamins Anything in the logs? 20:24 balin Looks like one too ... this is the only hickup I get. 20:23 jcamins The result should be a fully-working Koha installation. 20:23 jcamins Okay, that's a good way to install it. 20:23 balin http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze 20:23 balin throiugh the debian repository 20:23 jcamins How did you install it? 20:22 balin 3.08.05.000, firefox and chrome both 20:21 jcamins What version of Koha, and which browser? 20:21 jcamins That's very bizarre. 20:21 balin yes 20:20 jcamins But other pages are still working? 20:20 balin jcamins: exactly - new window pops up yet remians blank. 20:20 jcamins What version of Koha? 20:20 jcamins So /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/z3950_search.pl does not load? 20:19 oleonard Neat, Obama is coming to Athens next week. 20:19 balin jcamins: no. I can't even search as the search mask itself remains blank (and eventually fails with loading error). FW 210 is open. 20:18 jcamins Most likely it's a firewall. 20:18 jcamins balin: you mean you do a search in LC and no matter what you search for, there are never any results? 20:17 balin Just installed a play koha in debian ... z39.50 search for cataloging is not working for me. I have the library of congress defined in targets but when I try to make a z39.50 search, the window that pops up remains empty ... any pointers on where to start looking? 20:11 cait incremental_improvements++ 20:11 huginn jcamins: Karma for "incremental_improvements" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. 20:11 jcamins @karma incremental_improvements 20:11 cait whohoo 20:11 jcamins incremental_improvements++ 20:11 oleonard I have a patch ready which includes some incremental improvements 20:11 oleonard yes, I hadn't forgotten about that project 20:10 cait acq bug 20:10 cait heh 20:09 * oleonard concedes that he is indeed devilishly handsome 20:08 jcamins oleonard++ 20:08 cait oleonard++ 20:08 cait oleonard: 20:00 cait true 19:59 cait tre 19:59 libsysguy HAHAHA 19:59 jcamins libsysguy: I am. All users of Koha will be happier if I'm not grouchy about the lack of 787 support. :P 19:59 libsysguy heh 19:59 libsysguy now now jcamins, since you are future RM you have to take into consideration all of the users in the Koha userbase 19:57 * jcamins uses 787s, not the calendar. :P 19:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8869 - Duplicate member check doesn't disable submit button on bottom. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=782e1845f3c77f68fe144df91c88b894aecb9607> / Bug 8863: When clearing a patron attribute, they are all cleared <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a38631838b494079a1d0ad5fc7bdb706dacadc4> / Bug 8851 - strange blue bar above serials results <http://git.koha-co 19:57 libsysguy so I can hand it off to testing 19:57 libsysguy I don't know about you guys but I'm ready to be done with it :p 19:57 libsysguy don't you want me to finish the calendar project first? 19:56 libsysguy heh I'll bet 19:56 cait oh we will give you all the piece and quiet you need for this project 19:56 libsysguy disturb ** 19:55 libsysguy DND =~ do not disturn :p 19:55 cait hm? ) 19:55 libsysguy don't make me put up the DND sign :p 19:55 libsysguy ... 19:55 cait lol 19:54 * jcamins suggests that libsysguy probably doesn't have enough to do. 19:54 jcamins Hehe. 19:54 cait :P 19:54 cait I will delegate it to one of the qaa then 19:53 cait jcamins: aha 19:52 jcamins Quality would be assured if you were the one managing the implementation of intelligent 001 handling. :P 19:51 cait I am qam, not your secretary 19:51 jcamins Ah, isn't being RM great? 19:50 cait lol 19:50 * jcamins delegates this project to kf. 19:50 jcamins And we should once and for all eliminate the wholly misunderstood idea that "001 should have OCLC number." 19:50 jcamins If you are bulk importing records with a consistent identifier already existing, that identifier should be used. Otherwise, the biblionumber should be automatically generated. 19:50 cait Iguess we could replace, as long as there are scripts building the relationships 19:49 cait hm 19:49 cait hm 19:49 cait as long as it's optional 19:49 jcamins We should be using your 001 for biblionumber. 19:49 cait ok ignore me, it was a long day 19:48 cait :P 19:48 cait can I put my 001 in there? 19:48 cait ? :) 19:48 cait biblionumber is unfriendly. 19:47 * jcamins either. 19:46 rangi i cant think of a reason 19:46 jcamins Anyone? And I mean, legitimate reasons, not just "but biblionumber is unfriendly." 19:46 jcamins Why can't we use 787$w for linking bound-withs? 19:44 rangi http://riahall.bandcamp.com/album/ria-hall 19:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #877 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:42 mveron rangi: Great voices! 19:38 jcamins It was between that and 700t for bound-withs, and I think that wins, barely. 19:38 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vh-tGolbbU&feature=relmfu 19:38 cait ugh. ok. 19:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8175 - check logs error or displays incorrectly in details.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8f4b1fa146650fc9ff6c47be80e1f5a34863a9f> / Bug 8843 - Cannot export bibliographic records by call number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=caec1ddfa48b3bf8581b27dc45cba404a47d4a27> / Bug 8718 - Normal catalogue detail view in staff client doesn't show missing seri 19:37 huginn jcamins: Information concerning the work related to the target item when the relationship does not fit any of those defined in fields 760-785. (Repeatable) [b,c,d,g,h,i,k,m,n,o,r,s,t,u,w,x,y,z,6,7,8] 19:37 jcamins @marc 787 19:37 cait hm not what you mant 19:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=787 blocker, P2, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Non-MARC interface does not save copright and subjects information 19:37 cait bug 787 19:37 cait jcamins: ?? 19:36 jcamins I guess this means I'm going to have to provide a patch making 787 useful. 19:36 * jcamins decides to use 787. 19:36 mveron BTW, there will be a little Literature Festival in Switzeland dedicated to NZ: http://www.literaturtagezofingen.ch/index.php?id=710 19:36 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Hhomgzz3M 19:35 rangi ria hall lives not far from me 19:33 rangi mveron: oh yeah those are cool! 19:33 rangi http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/3F65C01EAB666AC6CC25710F00805997 (im misquoted 3 times here) 19:32 cait but heard the same stories about other towns as well... 19:32 cait it's really annoying for the institutions 19:32 cait in my home town they mess up times and dates for events a lot 19:32 mveron I watched the Tatau Dance group, http://www.nzatfrankfurt.govt.nz/events/ria-hall-and-puawai-cairns-tatau-pacific-dance-group 19:31 rangi yeah 19:31 oleonard I think my library has yet to have a story written about it that didn't contain a factual error or made-up quote 19:31 rangi its only the editors who touch the site 19:31 * oleonard seconds the notion that journalists don't listen 19:31 rangi they write for print still 19:31 cait oh 19:31 rangi unsuprisingly, they probably never touch it 19:30 rangi yup 19:30 jcamins rangi: the journalists for stuff.co.nz don't know who is behind their site? 19:30 rangi journalists don't listen :) 19:30 rangi yep it is 19:29 cait is catalyst no longer doing stuff? 19:29 cait they wrote you were behind the original stuff site 19:29 rangi did you see a haka? 19:29 rangi oh cool 19:29 mveron http://www.nzatfrankfurt.govt.nz/ 19:29 mveron I was at the Frankfurt Book Fair yesterday. The presentation of New Zealand was really great! 19:28 mveron Hi rangi 19:28 rangi hi mveron 19:27 * rangi cant parse that 19:27 jcamins What? 19:26 rangi ? 19:26 cait why was behind stuff? 19:26 cait oh 19:24 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/7781499/Catalyst-notes-shift-in-open-source-attitude 19:24 rangi the stuff we are doing in the middle east for example 19:23 cait [off] lol 19:23 jcamins [off] NASA, for example. 19:22 cait [off] wlel, maybe for some it is :) 19:21 rangi [off] yeah we host much bigger sites than that, its not rocket science :) 19:21 jcamins [off] But correctly. 19:21 jcamins [off] I'd suggest just doing it once. :P 19:21 cait [off] but it's still a lot I think 19:21 cait [off] you would have some hardware/hosting/maintenance and support staff costs 19:20 rangi [off] 5 times 19:20 jcamins [off] You could have search rewritten. 19:20 * cait nods 19:19 rangi [off] imagine what we could do with 910k a year 19:18 rangi [off] per year .. someone is laughing all the way to the bank 19:18 jcamins [off] I'm reminded of the BOFH story where the Boss negotiates the contract with a vendor. 19:18 rangi [off] 13 currently * 70k ... and its a union catalogue 19:18 cait [off] I understand that decision even less now than before. 19:17 cait [off] ouch. :( 19:17 rangi [off] it cost something like 350k for the new plymouth migration, more than we quoted for ALL libraries 19:16 cait [off] rangi: is that ebsco + symphony or only one? 19:16 cait [off] you pay the index/data, not the search interface - well that too, but the big chunk is the index. 19:15 rangi [off] so i think its about 500k a year currently 19:15 jcamins [off] Okay, prices are in line with what I've heard from them. 19:15 rangi [off] per library 19:14 jcamins [off] Wait, that's PER LIBRARY?!?!? 19:14 jcamins [off] Still, that's supposedly a national catalog, and there are universities that are paying more than that, easily. 19:14 rangi [off] it might be more for bigger libraries 19:13 rangi [off] that's per year for ever, and not the migration costs 19:13 jcamins [off] 70k NZD seems rather low for those two companies. 19:12 jcamins [off] Oh, definitely. 19:11 rangi [off] either way, it's balls 19:11 rangi [off] makes sense 19:11 cait [off] my coworker did with a test account 19:10 cait [off] I think it's solr, you can integrate their index with vufind 19:10 jcamins [off] EBSCO used to be Z39.50-based. 19:09 rangi [off]i wonder what they use in the back, probably solr 19:05 jcamins [off] Could just be a coincidence, but talk about wacky. 19:05 jcamins [off] I have a US public library's bib database for testing. The contents are quite similar to an NZ public library's collection, apparently. I automatically fell back to looking for my preferred record (number 4), and *found it there*. 19:04 oleonard [off] Hats off to your keen eye jcamins 19:04 oleonard [off] Wow jcamins is such a library nerd he recognizes the ranking of search results?! 19:02 jcamins [off] What are the chances that their relevance ranking would put items in the same order as ours, keeping in mind that our relevance ranking is abysmal? 19:00 jcamins There's something familiar about these results. 19:00 cait rangi: ew 19:00 jcamins Waitaminute. 18:59 jcamins rangi: especially winning are the subject headings. 18:59 nengard both of you 18:59 nengard you're awesome 18:59 nengard wow 18:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8594 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , A report containing a subquery that has a 'limit' will have that limit stripped out 18:59 oleonard Bug 8594? 18:59 jcamins nengard: Bug 8594. 18:59 rangi nope 18:59 nengard my searches are failing me 18:59 nengard i think the patch was written by robin ? anyone know the bug number? 18:59 rangi in this day and age 18:59 nengard i'm looking for a bug report that i know i signed off on ? it was about reports that had nested selects 18:59 rangi seriously 18:58 rangi session ids in urls 18:58 rangi heh 18:58 oleonard I don't know what you're complaining about, http://ehis.ebscohost.com/eds/results?sid=9c72fd0e-1c5a-4e9e-a310-d089111a09c4%40sessionmgr14&vid=2&hid=22&bquery=harry+AND+potter&bdata=JmNsaTA9RlQxJmNsdjA9WSZ0eXBlPTAmc2l0ZT1lZHMtbGl2ZSZzY29wZT1zaXRl is very memorable. 18:58 rangi because you know, sending something over a slow international link for 14 hops is a great idea 18:58 jcamins Wow. Winningest system ever. 18:58 rangi why yes i do want all my opac searches to go via the USA ...when im sitting in a library in timaru 18:57 rangi ebsco + symphony 18:57 jcamins EBSCO? 18:56 rangi http://wanganui.kotui.org.nz/ or http://hurunui.kotui.org.nz/ or http://timaru.kotui.org.nz/ 18:55 jcamins You have not, no. 18:55 rangi have i shown you what 70k$nz a year forever in licensing and support gets you? 18:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , XSS vulnerabilities 18:52 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 3652 XSS vulnerability in facets 18:52 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 3652: XSS vulnerability in page numbering 18:52 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 3652 : [SIGNED-OFF] [SECURITY] XSS vulnerability 18:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #200: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/200/ 18:52 jcamins It would seem so. 18:51 rangi every vendor except koha? 18:51 rangi oh 18:49 jcamins Who said "I know, let's make sure there are no stable URLs in our library catalog. That would definitely better serve our user base than usable links." 18:48 jcamins You know what I can't figure out? 18:40 rangi hmm confusing 18:35 * jcamins goes to eat a late lunch. 18:33 * rangi will have to fix that hehe 18:33 rangi so is mveron and oleonard-away 18:33 rangi hehe you are! 18:33 melia yeah, I'm beating you rangi!! 18:32 rangi melia++ 18:32 rangi ohh and three signoffs to melia 18:32 rangi trying to reduce it 18:32 rangi khall++ 18:31 rangi hmm triple figures in the needs signoff queue again 18:30 rangi morning 18:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #200 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:19 Oak :) 17:19 kf_mtg Oak: I will in 10 minuts 17:06 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded. 17:06 Oak @later tell kf time to go home. 17:06 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 12.0°C (7:00 PM CEST on October 12, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 17:06 Oak @wunder Konstanz 16:57 jcamins You're welcome. 16:57 howell4c That did it. Thanks a lot for your help. 16:56 jcamins Look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/[your instance] 16:55 howell4c Or is there a better way to run Koha on a standalone machine when I don't have a domain name to give it? 16:55 howell4c How do I tell what the directive is pointing to, and change it? 16:53 jcamins Probably the VirtualHost directive is pointing to only one of your network interfaces, and it isn't the one you want. 16:53 howell4c now I'm getting "/ was not found on this server" 16:51 jcamins And restart Apache. 16:51 howell4c OK, I'll try that. Thanks a lot. 16:51 jcamins Just add "Listen 8080" to /etc/apache2/ports.conf 16:51 jcamins The packages don't do that, since that's generally considered poor form. 16:51 jcamins howell4c: you have to tell Apache to listen on port 8080. 16:50 howell4c I set INTRAPORT="8080" and OPACPORT="80" in /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf, but when I go to http://127.0.0.1:8080, I get a message that the browser can't establish a connection to the server. I must have missed something else. 16:49 jcamins howell4c: yes, you just have to set different ports. 16:48 howell4c Is it possible to use the packages installation of Koha on Ubuntu 12.04 without a domain name? I want to access the OPAC/staff site on 127.0.0.1 for testing. 15:51 clrh I learned mysqldump --where="1 limit 20000" :) 15:46 jcamins Good UNIMARC authorities = better authority testing 15:46 jcamins oleonard: UNIMARC data. :) 15:45 oleonard What was that for jcamins? 15:42 jcamins clrh++ 15:39 oleonard But it's good because it means we're mostly tidying up after ourselves? 15:38 oleonard I guess it's bad if anyone hoped staff-global.css would be drastically shrunk 15:37 jcamins oleonard: I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. 15:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8899 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Remove unused CSS declarations from staff client CSS 15:37 oleonard Surprising little to remove for Bug 8899 15:35 jcamins Alas, all the BibLibrans left before I remembered to ask if any of them had sample UNIMARC data other than the sandbox data. 15:19 nengard sorry - brain shutting down for Friday :) 15:19 nengard okay 15:19 nengard oh!!! 15:19 jcamins The patch is in 3.6.x. 15:19 nengard yes 15:19 jcamins The bug is. 15:19 nengard that's where i found it 15:19 nengard it's in 3.8.x 15:18 jcamins Maybe not 3.8 or 3.10, somehow? 15:18 jcamins Rather, it's in 3.6.x. 15:18 nengard my test was in 3.8 15:18 nengard so probably 3.10 15:18 jcamins Okay, good. 15:17 nengard yes 15:17 jcamins It is. 15:17 jcamins That should be in 3.8.x and 3.6.x. 15:17 jcamins Hm. 15:17 jcamins It took me a while to find the bug. 15:16 nengard (sorry was doing documentation) 15:16 nengard thanks jcamins 15:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7586 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Search: Language restriction does NOT show expected results (no items shown) 15:15 jcamins Bug 7586. 15:12 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Translations Manager 15:12 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5052 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Can't choose languages if all choices are sublanguages 15:12 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7541 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, NEW , News items won't display for translated dialects 15:12 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2559 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Language limit on Spanish returns Russian records or is it English ... 15:12 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3092 normal, P1 - high, ---, frederic, NEW , Data values storage and use 100 bug meta-bug 15:12 jcamins @query language 15:12 jcamins At some point. 15:10 jcamins mveron fixed it. 15:09 jcamins We have ln:n when it should be ln:w. 15:09 jcamins What's weird about this is that I -- or someone following my instructions -- have patched it no fewer than three times. 15:09 jcamins It's a bug. 15:09 jcamins You are correct. 15:07 nengard it appears to only check the 041 ? this is an isolated test 15:07 nengard a bug 15:07 nengard cause if so I found ab ug 15:07 nengard it's the 041 and the 008? 15:07 jcamins nengard: that's correct. 14:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7751 critical, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Decrease loan period on items with a high number of holds 14:21 nengard bug 7751 needs a sign off - simple string patch if anyone wants to tackle it 14:21 nengard fun! 14:17 * kf_mtg is working on how to catalogue posters 14:13 nengard fixing now 14:13 nengard but i used the word 'by' and it needs to be the word 'to' 14:13 nengard by combining it 14:13 nengard well i did make it less confusing 14:13 kf_mtg but yeah, confusing pref 14:13 kf_mtg guess it makes more sense this way 14:13 nengard just now 14:13 kf_mtg did you test? 14:13 nengard need to update the preference 14:13 nengard eek 14:12 nengard it's decreased to a number of days 14:12 nengard it's not decreased by a number of days 14:12 nengard yikes 14:12 kf_mtg yw 14:10 nengard thanks!!! 14:09 kf_mtg it will ask you 14:09 kf_mtg <li>High demand item. Loan period shortened to [% HIGHHOLDS.duration %] days (due [% HIGHHOLDS.returndate %]). Check out anyway?</li> 14:09 kf_mtg ah see here is the message for the checkout screen: 14:08 * mtompset smiles. 14:08 kf_mtg and I misunderstood I think when looking at the bug the first time around 14:08 nengard to you too 14:08 nengard hehe 14:08 mtompset Good day (24 hour period), #koha. 14:08 nengard that's a-ok - I wasn't being clear 14:07 kf_mtg sorry for misinformation at first ) 14:07 nengard thanks! 14:07 nengard k - i'll write that and then put on my list of things to test 14:07 kf_mtg I think so from glancing at comments 14:07 kf_mtg I guess a test would be best 14:07 nengard so the old due date isn't changed, just new due dates 14:07 kf_mtg I think 14:07 kf_mtg it's only checked out for 2 weeks to each 14:07 nengard Patron B comes around and checked out a book today, normally they would get 2 weeks but the item has too many holds on it, does that change their due date at the time they check out by the number of days in the preference? 14:07 kf_mtg but if thre are 5 pending holds 14:06 kf_mtg so say normally the loan period is 4 weeks 14:06 kf_mtg I was wrong 14:06 kf_mtg I think he doesn't get a new due_date 14:06 nengard Patron A has an item checked out with a due date of Nov 1, someone comes along and places a hold on the item they have checked out and the preference is set to decrease the loan length, does Patron A have a new due date? or do they still have a due date of Nov 1? 14:06 kf_mtg sometimes it's aproblem when you have something similar happen in libraries you know - wrong expectations 14:05 kf_mtg not for checked out 14:05 kf_mtg it might be for checking out items 14:05 kf_mtg I think you were right 14:05 nengard let me try to re-explain what I'm looking for 14:05 kf_mtg "It reduces the check-out duration of an item by [decreaseLoanHighHolds] days for items that have more than [decreaseLoanHighHoldsValue] holds pending." ? 14:05 kf_mtg i found this from paul: 14:05 kf_mtg hm maybe I misunderstand it... let me reread it 14:04 nengard i understand what it does - just not when it does it 14:04 nengard yes 14:04 kf_mtg did you see the system preferences? 14:04 nengard hmmmm 14:04 nengard okay - a hold would be a trigger ? 14:04 kf_mtg it needs a trigger 14:03 nengard anyone from ptfs-europe around to help explain bug 7751 for documentation? 14:03 kf_mtg it can be triggered by placing the hold 14:03 nengard hmmm ? seems like that would need a cron job of some sort to work 14:03 kf_mtg I think one of the big academics here used to send you a postcard 14:03 kf_mtg not sure if the feature includes sending out a mail 14:03 kf_mtg and then it would get shortened 14:03 kf_mtg normally you would have a very long time to betgin with I think 14:02 kf_mtg yeah 14:02 nengard yeah i read the comments and was still not sure 14:01 nengard ? 14:01 nengard if the items are checked out already - meaning I checked it out and had 2 weeks a week ago, but today there are many holds so I only have a few more days instead of another week 14:01 kf_mtg I only did a code review, but there is lots of information in the comments - some from paul I think too when he did test it 14:01 kf_mtg it's a feature academics here do to 14:01 kf_mtg if there are many holds it will increase the loan period 14:01 kf_mtg it's for items checked out 14:00 nengard I don't see a test plan on there so I'm not sure how it's supposed to work - and I'm documenting it 14:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7751 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Master , Decrease loan period on items with a high number of holds 14:00 nengard kf you did some testing on bug 7751 - do you know if it lowers the loan period on things already checked out? or just items checked out after the hold limit has been reached? 13:58 wizzyrea it's early early saturday :) 13:55 mtompset I think Australia and NZ are out of Friday now. 13:54 mtompset It's still Friday here. 13:54 oleonard ...with all due respect to other time zones 13:54 oleonard If that's the best thing that happens for Koha on a Friday, I think we count ourselves lucky. 13:49 wizzyrea "we couldn't find anything, but here's a partying squirrel." 13:49 mtompset Actually, perhaps it would be better on a connection timed out page. 13:48 * mtompset laughs, "Totally, wizzyrea!" 13:48 oleonard Party squirrel has finger-foods instead of network cables I would guess 13:48 wizzyrea i would totally put that on the "no results" page. 13:47 mtompset oleonard++ # nice Squirrel -- Does this means someone's Koha isn't working right now? ;) 13:45 wizzyrea that is one party hardened squirrel 13:42 nengard but he's away right now 13:42 nengard jcamins will know the answer 13:41 nengard hehe 13:38 magnuse oleonard++ 13:31 * oleonard hated to see you empty-handed 13:31 nengard well thank you oleonard! 13:27 * oleonard offers nengard this photo of a squirrel in a party hat in lieu of MARC advice: http://cuteoverload.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/8051316701_e5a0c6deeb_b1.jpg?w=560 13:04 nengard can someone remind me what field the language limit on the advanced search is checking? is it the 008 and the 041? http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/kohasearchindexes.html is that what 'ln' is 13:01 magnuse success! \o/ 12:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7412 enhancement, P3, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Pre-filling items in cataloguing 12:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7751 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Master , Decrease loan period on items with a high number of holds 12:47 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7412: Follow up: Update preference to sentence 12:47 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7751: Decrease loan length with many holds 12:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #876: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/876/ 12:42 nengard is that what 'ln' is 12:42 nengard is it the 008 and the 041? http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/kohasearchindexes.html 12:42 nengard can someone remind me what field the language limit on the advanced search is checking? 12:22 oleonard You know, stuff. 12:21 mtompset Greetings, oleonard. More what? 12:19 * oleonard is back and ready for more 12:18 oleonard Hi 12:18 kf hi oleonard :) 12:14 magnuse yay! 12:06 kf guess I found it :) 12:06 huginn kf: Information used to control patent documents. In addition to information about patents, this field may contain information relating to inventors' certificates, utility certificates, utility models, patents or certificates of addition, inventors' certificates of addition, utility certificates of addition, and published applications for any of these. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,6,8] 12:06 kf @marc 013 12:06 kf does someone know where patent numbers in marc21 go? 12:05 kf hm 11:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #876 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 11:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , XSS vulnerabilities 11:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8636 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Some dependencies are not listed by the installer 11:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8812 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Staff Client: Patron search should display branch name instead of branch code in results table 11:38 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 3652 XSS vulnerability in facets 11:38 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 3652: XSS vulnerability in page numbering 11:38 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 3652 : [SIGNED-OFF] [SECURITY] XSS vulnerability 11:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8633 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Translate script hardcoded to prog template 11:38 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8636: Add dependency on Test::Deep 11:38 jenkins_koha * veron: Bug 8812 - Staff Client: Patron search should display branch name instead of branch code in results table 11:38 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 8633 Manage OPAC alternate templates 11:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #875: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/875/ 11:35 jwagner and hi mtompset 11:34 mtompset Greetings, jwagner. 11:33 jwagner hi magnuse 11:32 magnuse kia ora jwagner 11:00 syed i need to help koha web customisation 11:00 syed any body here 10:59 syed hello 10:54 kf the list matches the history file 10:54 kf it's everyone with a patch in koha 10:52 mtompset Is the Koha development team just the people that added enhancements? (looking at the about page) 10:47 kf jcamins_away: if you are around... I could need some help finding the correct marc21 fields for a library (patents and posters) 10:47 mtompset Just got a Transient Delivery Failure. I hate when the mailing list sends me stuff like this when I send a reply to someone's question. *sigh* Hopefully it will correct itself. 10:45 WaqarAzeem *browse 10:45 WaqarAzeem thanks kf, can i brows the code online. 10:44 gerundio I just want to use Koha right now, I don't need to know its insides :D 10:44 gerundio my argument exactly 10:43 kf gerundio: it can be done for some things, but might have side effects for others or just not work (like bilbiographic data) - you shoudl be careful and know what you do 10:43 kf WaqarAzeem: sorry I haven't used the patron card printing functionality so far - you might get better answers using th amiling list 10:43 gerundio I'm struggling here with a work colleague who just talks about injecting stuff directly into the DB 10:42 gerundio kf, thanks for the input on that 10:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7412' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=65be03846d064dd6d9e7159550a269a352054b65> / Bug 7412: Follow up: Update preference to sentence <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=884005db08234d83ba17ede00b90d08ddf96933d> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7751' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=comm 10:36 WaqarAzeem The second is not a question but a Bug! that was leting me not to use this code. 10:35 WaqarAzeem so, i have two question? from where i can print the card of patron without making a batch? 10:33 WaqarAzeem the file print.pl already an implementation that if a list of borrower_number are provided then it start to create a pdf having all the patron (using the template layout of batch printing) 10:30 WaqarAzeem I need to make some modification in koha patron page. So the admin can generate the PDF card from there. 10:30 WaqarAzeem Good Everning! (Evening+Morning) :) 10:29 kf jcamins_away: around? 10:28 kf gerundio: most only have a few so and moving around does not happen so often 10:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #875 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 10:28 kf gerundio: hm no, there is no import/export for this 10:27 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3652 XSS vulnerability in facets <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a4bf495f3b7763059d6ceab2001fbf07313ca00d> / Bug 3652: XSS vulnerability in page numbering <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2e30600a5827deb1686d56ea00c27c232b22b7bc> / Bug 3652 : [SIGNED-OFF] [SECURITY] XSS vulnerability <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=53309fab 10:23 gerundio is there any way, other than SQL injection, to import item types from one Koha installation to another one? 10:09 gaetan_B bye ! 09:56 kf I am nto sure who is curently working on the pt-PT translations, but you might be able to contact them over the list 09:55 kf koha-translate 09:55 wahanui mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 09:55 kf mailing lists? 09:55 kf there is a mailng list for translators if you have questions 09:54 kf awesome :) 09:47 gerundio ok, I'll try to take some time to improve the translations 09:47 gerundio kf, I'm at work too, so I completly understand if you don't answer... take your time :) 09:46 kf and it would be cool if you translated them to provide them for others to use later 09:45 kf most of the things added by the web installer can be changed in koha itself later 09:44 kf no sample files and translation of the framework 09:44 kf there is no web installer in pt-PT yet I fear 09:44 kf sorry gerundio - I am at work 09:42 gerundio btw, there's a typo there, it should be bibliographic instead of bibligraphic, right? 09:41 gerundio is there any way to add Default UNIMARC bibligraphic framework in other languages?? 09:41 gerundio Default UNIMARC bibligraphic framework in English. 09:41 gerundio I'm on Step 3 of the Web installer now, where I'm asked to choose the Default Settings 09:36 gerundio well EN it is then, I just wanted to make sure it was pre-installed :| 09:36 gerundio the new language still doesn't show up in the web installer though 09:35 gerundio they're there 09:34 gerundio I found these references online regarding the default installation directories 09:34 gerundio /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/ and /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/, right? 09:33 kf koha-tmpl/.../prog - same level as the en directory 09:33 kf in the 2 template directories for opac and intranet 09:33 kf it should be a directory named with the language code 09:32 kf have you tried created the directories? 09:32 kf hm yes 09:32 gerundio the 2nd one refering to the directories hierarchy is the one bugging me 09:32 gerundio I just need to do as you say 09:32 gerundio the 1st problem is not a real issue for me :) 09:31 gerundio I'm familiar with poedit, used it in other projects 09:31 kf they can be quite helpful to find the problematic strings 09:31 kf you could also take a look at the po file with a tool like poedit 09:30 kf and fix the problems :) 09:30 kf and download newer files from there 09:30 gerundio to fix the 1st problem, right? 09:30 kf what you can do is get an account at translate.koha-community.org 09:29 gerundio already rerun and the same happens over and over 09:29 kf for the errors - it happens sometimes 09:29 kf I think I had this happen before 09:29 kf and just try to rerun 09:29 kf you can ignore that 09:29 gerundio the 2nd error I got is "Koha directories hierarchy for pt-PT must be created first" 09:28 gerundio pt-PT in latest koha release 09:28 kf which language and version is it? 09:28 gerundio this one I think is because of a bad translation job 09:28 kf ah sorry... I missed your first sentence 09:28 kf youa re trying to install an additional language? 09:28 gerundio tmpl_process3.pl: Warning: unconsistent %s count 09:28 gerundio I'm experiencing some errors 09:27 gerundio hi, I'm trying to install an additional language following the instructions at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client 09:25 kf aaah 09:24 drojf [off] i kind of think that is libsysguy ;) 09:23 kf so him/her 09:23 kf hm not sure, ellie sounded female 09:22 drojf her? 09:20 kf hm hope someone told her that remaping item fields is a really bad idea :( http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/fi16z/anybody_out_there_using_koha/ 09:01 kf evil empires interested in appearing in context of the koha name 09:00 mtompset Which evil empire, rangi? There are so many now a days. :( 08:48 drojf oh 19 readers. that drastically increased 08:47 drojf subreddit… *giggles* 08:47 rangi nope 08:46 kf hm koha pastebin - is that you rangi? 08:46 kf ah 08:46 rangi if we dont register, someone else will 08:46 kf hm? 08:45 rangi basically you have to, or the evil empire will 08:44 drojf omg i have never seen that wiki page. there is like a million koha places 08:41 kf done 08:40 rangi yes please 08:40 kf want me to delete it from the wiki page? 08:39 rangi gone 08:37 kf not that many 08:37 kf 59 followers 08:36 kf oh ok 08:36 rangi i want to just kill the whole thing actually 08:36 kf want me to add mtj? 08:36 kf I was looking here 08:35 kf http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Social_Networks 08:35 rangi mtj changed it recently 08:35 rangi mtj and I 08:35 kf ah, the wiki says rangi 08:34 kf who has control of the account? 08:34 kf hm that last tweet from kohagit looks like it got hacked :( 07:52 kf paul_p: hope your son feels better soon 07:52 paul_p mtompset = for the box, it should be solved in 48-72H maximum (new box sent by UPS) For the boy, should be the same duration, probably ;-) 07:51 mtompset Yay! IRC un-split. :) 07:51 mtompset Hope your son gets better quickly, and the DSL box gets replaced soon too. 07:50 mtompset paul_p: That's a bad situation. 07:50 mtompset Ooo... IRC split? 07:50 paul_p one boy ill, planned to work from home, and murphy's law = DSL box broken last night by an electric shock caused by the rain/lightning... thanks a lot 3G key ! 07:49 paul_p hi kf. 07:48 kf morning paul_p 07:27 eythian bye all 07:24 gaetan_B :) 07:24 gaetan_B bonjour mtompset et wahanui 07:23 mtompset Hello, gaetan_B. :) 07:17 wahanui hello, gaetan_B 07:17 gaetan_B hello 07:12 kf hey eythian and bonjour asaurat :) 07:12 mtompset Greetings, julian_m, asaurat, sophie_m drojf, magnuse. ;) 07:12 asaurat hi kf 07:12 eythian hi all 07:12 kf good morning #koha 07:12 julian_m hi rangi magnuse mtompset 07:11 asaurat hi! 07:11 sophie_m hi rangi, hi #koha 07:11 rangi hi drojf, asaurat, julian_m, sophie_m and magnuse 07:04 magnuse kia ora #koha 07:00 drojf good day #koha 06:53 alex_a bonjour mtompset 06:53 mtompset Greetings, rangi. 06:53 mtompset salut, alex_a et reiveune 06:52 reiveune hi rangi 06:52 rangi hi reiveune 06:51 wahanui what's up, reiveune 06:51 reiveune hello 06:31 cait hi alex_a_ and bye :) 06:23 alex_a_ salut rangi :) 06:23 rangi hi alex_a_ 06:22 alex_a_ bonjour #koha 06:19 mtompset Though it has the files. 06:18 mtompset Hmmm... even my 3.6.3 tarball didn't install it. 06:14 mtompset It would seem that the docs directory didn't make it into the packages install. 06:06 mtompset Hmmm... do you have a history.txt file in your Koha installation? 05:59 mtompset Greetings, cait. 05:59 cait hi rangi 05:59 cait hi mtompset 05:55 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 05:44 rangi Redhat is so old and out of date, that you have to downgrade all the versions of things like zebra, and even perl to get close to getting it running 05:43 druthb It is theoretically possible, but I've never made it work, and I'm an experienced linux admin. 05:41 druthb RedHat Koha installation is a really good way to give yourself ulcers. 05:40 Oak rebooting 05:40 Oak yup. Debian or Ubuntu is the best choice. 05:39 cait Ubuntu is ok too 05:38 cait Maxie: Debian is the easiest - I woudl stick to that 05:38 cait Maxie: it will be much harder to do with thoe 05:37 Oak Maxie, https://www.google.com.pk/search?q=koha+on+centos&sugexp=chrome,mod=11&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 05:33 Maxie Hi! Am looking to set up Koha for the first time but don't have any experience with Koha or Linux environments. Have been reading about Koha and it says I should go for Linux Debian. Was wondering if anyone has done it on Linux Redhat or CentOS 6.2? 04:18 dhon_ I can now authenticate and issue commands over SIP2, thanks for the help 04:18 dhon_ eythian: all I had to do was add an Instution section to the SIPConfig.xml file that matched the instution used for the patron 03:26 wahanui beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy. 03:26 druthb wahanui: beer? 03:13 wahanui eythian: huh? 03:13 eythian wahanui: ping 03:12 eythian wahanui: is it beer o'clock 03:12 eythian hmm 03:12 eythian wahanui: is it beer o'clock? 03:12 eythian wahanui: is it beer o'clock? 03:12 druthb yah. It's helped talljoy and I become more-interchangeable. Keep the notes there, and someone else can sub in pretty quick. 03:11 eythian Yeah, it's also handy if someone else has to take over because I'm off sick or something. They immediately know where to look. 03:11 druthb before I spun up that wiki, I was using a .txt file in the client's directory on the work server. The wiki is much nicer. tags++ 03:10 druthb yah, me too. I have a <code></code> block where I keep my script list. 03:09 eythian yeah. I use a wiki for that, which contains all the migration steps for a given client, 03:09 druthb the --itemsub or --col directives get used the same way over and over a lot. Be nice to have in the repo a common config for that, that someone could customize as needed. 03:07 druthb One of the things I'd kind of like to do for the biblio_masher.pl script, is the ability to use...oh, YAML or something...to haul in all those params. That way, you could save configs you use over n over--like, Symphony configs are pretty darn common, for instance, or Millennium. biblio_masher.pl --config=config.yml etcetc 03:04 druthb that's my thinking, doing a mirror of the Good Stuff, somehow, and gradually cleaning up the Old Junque. 03:03 eythian * someone 03:03 eythian We* should set up gitorious on k-c.org. 03:03 eythian ah right. Though, the merge request procedure on gitorious might be more useful in general for this type of thing. That said, maybe automatically mirroring there could be worthwhile. 03:02 druthb gmcharlt created a repo for me on git.k-c, but I've not got around to pushing out refactored stuff. 03:02 eythian yeah, it's not too bad as is, but a refactor as more stuff is added is never a bad thing. 03:01 eythian cool 03:01 druthb One of these moons, I need to get hardcore about making that pile o' goodies more.... rational. 03:01 druthb I've got a carload of updates for that repo, too, but most of 'em are not in that file, so there shouldn't be any *major* conflicts going on. 02:59 eythian :) 02:59 druthb Has anyone told you lately, eythian, that you're freakin' *brilliant*? Some clever new tricks in there. 02:59 druthb ooooo... 02:56 eythian https://gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/koha-migration-toolbox/merge_requests <-- got a link for you ;) 02:56 eythian druthb: hi there 02:54 druthb o/ 02:22 wahanui OK, eythian. 02:22 eythian wahanui: ha ha tla is <reply>apt-get install darcs 02:05 wahanui OK, eythian. 02:05 eythian wahanui: ha ha subversion is <reply>apt-get install tla 02:03 wahanui OK, eythian. 02:03 eythian wahanui: ha ha cvs is <reply>apt-get install subversion 01:58 eythian jcamins_away: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3576502&group_id=1254&atid=301254 -- I much prefer the bugzilla interface 01:53 eythian I don't know what that would be. 01:53 dhon_ but I'm now getting "raw_transport: LOGIN ERROR: 'Can't call method "use" on an undefined value at /Sip/MsgType.pm line 832.#012'" 01:52 dhon_ and I can auth as that user 01:52 dhon_ added them to the sipconfig.xml 01:52 dhon_ I've created a patron "Sip Client" and set perm circulation 01:47 eythian it's the permissions that are key 01:47 eythian categories don't matter really 01:47 dhon_ would a SIP client patron be "Staff"? 01:46 eythian it is bad practice in production, but because it's not real, there can be strange things not working quite right. 01:46 dhon_ I'll try adding a new patron as you suggest 01:45 eythian I'd probably avoid that as it may behave unexpectedly 01:45 dhon_ I have no idea 01:45 eythian oh right. 01:45 dhon_ (which is probably bad practise, but in my case it doesn't matter) 01:44 eythian ah right 01:44 dhon_ that was adding kohaadmin to SIPconfig.xml 01:44 eythian cool, you're ahead of me then :) 01:44 dhon_ woo :) "Successful login/auth for 'kohaadmin' of 'MPL'" 01:44 eythian so, create a user in the patrons interface, and then when viewing its detail, use more -> set permissions to give it whatever it needs. 01:42 dhon_ (not judging, just trying to understand) 01:42 dhon_ right 01:42 eythian with the exception of kohaadmin, which isn't a real user 01:42 wahanui I know. 01:42 eythian that's right 01:41 dhon_ even a SIP client? 01:41 dhon_ so all users are "patrons"? 01:40 dhon_ (but I'm not sure if that's the right place to look) 01:40 eythian you'lkl have to make one 01:40 dhon_ I couldn't see a koha user in the patrons list in the web interface 01:40 dhon_ maybe I need to define a kohaadmin user in the SIPconfig.xml file 01:39 dhon_ I'm now getting "api_auth failed for SIP terminal 'koha' or 'kohalibrary'" 01:39 dhon_ just reading syslog 01:39 eythian what does it say? 01:37 dhon_ if you telnet to 8023 you get a telnet login prompt 01:37 dhon_ it uses the raw transport, rather than the telnet transport 01:37 eythian ah 01:36 dhon_ had to edit the SIPconfig.xml to allow remote connections on the SIP2 port 01:36 eythian it's something :) 01:35 dhon_ :) at least I'm getting a response from the SIP server now 01:35 dhon_ success! "Login FAIL" 01:34 eythian 6001 is the standard port for it though 01:34 eythian I haven't messed with SIP all that much 01:33 dhon_ (not sure exactly how telnet works) 01:33 dhon_ it expects credentails to be supplied in some other format 01:32 dhon_ okay, so port 8023 seems to be a telnet interface 01:21 * jcamins_away leaves 01:21 jcamins_away They're staff users. 01:21 jcamins_away No, the login values are used to login to Koha. 01:19 eythian I don't actually know 01:18 dhon_ so are the login values in SIPconfig.xml just ignored? 01:07 dhon_ yeah that looks like it - thanks 01:06 eythian I don't know how the vm is set up, but it's possible it's on port 8080 01:06 dhon_ maybe I'm stuck in an opac loop 01:06 dhon_ the docs say More->... but I can't see a "More" 01:05 dhon_ is there an admin url sorry? 00:56 dhon_ yeah :) just think how many wifi APs there are with the default SSID & password 00:55 eythian erk, that's a good reason to not use the prebuilt type things in production: I be _nobody_ changes the default superuser password. 00:54 jcamins http://kylehall.info/index.php/projects/koha/koha-virtual-appliance/ 00:54 dhon_ got it: kohaadmin:katikoan 00:52 eythian (usually near the bottom) 00:52 eythian otherwise, you can look in the koha-conf.xml for the database credentials and use them. 00:52 eythian I'm not sure, I'd presume it's documented somewhere. 00:51 dhon_ what's the admin user/pass for the VM? 00:49 eythian Not strictly 00:49 papa gone international? 00:49 papa oh hi there 00:48 eythian hi papa 00:45 jcamins Yes. 00:45 dhon_ can I administer that via the(?) web interface? 00:44 dhon_ okay, sorry I'm new to all this 00:44 jcamins The koha user should have the koha password and at least circulation permissions. 00:44 jcamins dhon_: it authenticates with Koha. 00:44 dhon_ is there a central authentication mechanism, or do you mean in the SIPconfig.xml file? 00:42 eythian yeah, but if the 'koha' user doesn't have the permissions that SIP needs, it won't let you log in. 00:42 dhon_ 93 is just the login message 00:42 eythian possibly circulation or something. 00:42 eythian there's a specific one they need, I forget which 00:42 dhon_ not sure 00:42 eythian permissions, rather 00:41 eythian does the Koha user you're using have the appropriate credentials? 00:41 dhon_ <login id="koha" password="koha" delimiter="|" error-detect="enabled" institution="kohalibrary" /> 00:41 dhon_ the koha user is defined in the SIPconfig.xml file: 00:39 dhon_ the SIP2 msg was: 9300CNkoha|COkoha|CP|AY1AZF75E 00:38 dhon_ http://pastebin.com/CpB6QZRp 00:38 dhon_ I think I'm getting login failure when using valid credentials 00:13 eythian no problem 00:10 dhon_ okay, well I'm getting somewhere - thanks for the help jcamins & eythian 00:07 jcamins I don't know, but that does sound a bit odd. 00:06 dhon_ cool, so it listens locally on 6001, and remotely on 8023? is that common? 00:04 dhon_ helps if you specify the right path for the config file 00:04 dhon_ ah-ha! 00:01 dhon_ I can't see anything LISTENing on 6001 though 00:00 eythian that's good behavior :) 00:00 dhon_ well, it found the config and backgrounded a process..