Time Nick Message 00:00 dhon_ well, it found the config and backgrounded a process.. 00:00 eythian that's good behavior :) 00:01 dhon_ I can't see anything LISTENing on 6001 though 00:04 dhon_ ah-ha! 00:04 dhon_ helps if you specify the right path for the config file 00:06 dhon_ cool, so it listens locally on 6001, and remotely on 8023? is that common? 00:07 jcamins I don't know, but that does sound a bit odd. 00:10 dhon_ okay, well I'm getting somewhere - thanks for the help jcamins & eythian 00:13 eythian no problem 00:38 dhon_ I think I'm getting login failure when using valid credentials 00:38 dhon_ http://pastebin.com/CpB6QZRp 00:39 dhon_ the SIP2 msg was: 9300CNkoha|COkoha|CP|AY1AZF75E 00:41 dhon_ the koha user is defined in the SIPconfig.xml file: 00:41 dhon_ <login id="koha" password="koha" delimiter="|" error-detect="enabled" institution="kohalibrary" /> 00:41 eythian does the Koha user you're using have the appropriate credentials? 00:42 eythian permissions, rather 00:42 dhon_ not sure 00:42 eythian there's a specific one they need, I forget which 00:42 eythian possibly circulation or something. 00:42 dhon_ 93 is just the login message 00:42 eythian yeah, but if the 'koha' user doesn't have the permissions that SIP needs, it won't let you log in. 00:44 dhon_ is there a central authentication mechanism, or do you mean in the SIPconfig.xml file? 00:44 jcamins dhon_: it authenticates with Koha. 00:44 jcamins The koha user should have the koha password and at least circulation permissions. 00:44 dhon_ okay, sorry I'm new to all this 00:45 dhon_ can I administer that via the(?) web interface? 00:45 jcamins Yes. 00:48 eythian hi papa 00:49 papa oh hi there 00:49 papa gone international? 00:49 eythian Not strictly 00:51 dhon_ what's the admin user/pass for the VM? 00:52 eythian I'm not sure, I'd presume it's documented somewhere. 00:52 eythian otherwise, you can look in the koha-conf.xml for the database credentials and use them. 00:52 eythian (usually near the bottom) 00:54 dhon_ got it: kohaadmin:katikoan 00:54 jcamins http://kylehall.info/index.php/projects/koha/koha-virtual-appliance/ 00:55 eythian erk, that's a good reason to not use the prebuilt type things in production: I be _nobody_ changes the default superuser password. 00:56 dhon_ yeah :) just think how many wifi APs there are with the default SSID & password 01:05 dhon_ is there an admin url sorry? 01:06 dhon_ the docs say More->... but I can't see a "More" 01:06 dhon_ maybe I'm stuck in an opac loop 01:06 eythian I don't know how the vm is set up, but it's possible it's on port 8080 01:07 dhon_ yeah that looks like it - thanks 01:18 dhon_ so are the login values in SIPconfig.xml just ignored? 01:19 eythian I don't actually know 01:21 jcamins_away No, the login values are used to login to Koha. 01:21 jcamins_away They're staff users. 01:21 * jcamins_away leaves 01:32 dhon_ okay, so port 8023 seems to be a telnet interface 01:33 dhon_ it expects credentails to be supplied in some other format 01:33 dhon_ (not sure exactly how telnet works) 01:34 eythian I haven't messed with SIP all that much 01:34 eythian 6001 is the standard port for it though 01:35 dhon_ success! "Login FAIL" 01:35 dhon_ :) at least I'm getting a response from the SIP server now 01:36 eythian it's something :) 01:36 dhon_ had to edit the SIPconfig.xml to allow remote connections on the SIP2 port 01:37 eythian ah 01:37 dhon_ it uses the raw transport, rather than the telnet transport 01:37 dhon_ if you telnet to 8023 you get a telnet login prompt 01:39 eythian what does it say? 01:39 dhon_ just reading syslog 01:39 dhon_ I'm now getting "api_auth failed for SIP terminal 'koha' or 'kohalibrary'" 01:40 dhon_ maybe I need to define a kohaadmin user in the SIPconfig.xml file 01:40 dhon_ I couldn't see a koha user in the patrons list in the web interface 01:40 eythian you'lkl have to make one 01:40 dhon_ (but I'm not sure if that's the right place to look) 01:41 dhon_ so all users are "patrons"? 01:41 dhon_ even a SIP client? 01:42 eythian that's right 01:42 wahanui I know. 01:42 eythian with the exception of kohaadmin, which isn't a real user 01:42 dhon_ right 01:42 dhon_ (not judging, just trying to understand) 01:44 eythian so, create a user in the patrons interface, and then when viewing its detail, use more -> set permissions to give it whatever it needs. 01:44 dhon_ woo :) "Successful login/auth for 'kohaadmin' of 'MPL'" 01:44 eythian cool, you're ahead of me then :) 01:44 dhon_ that was adding kohaadmin to SIPconfig.xml 01:44 eythian ah right 01:45 dhon_ (which is probably bad practise, but in my case it doesn't matter) 01:45 eythian oh right. 01:45 dhon_ I have no idea 01:45 eythian I'd probably avoid that as it may behave unexpectedly 01:46 dhon_ I'll try adding a new patron as you suggest 01:46 eythian it is bad practice in production, but because it's not real, there can be strange things not working quite right. 01:47 dhon_ would a SIP client patron be "Staff"? 01:47 eythian categories don't matter really 01:47 eythian it's the permissions that are key 01:52 dhon_ I've created a patron "Sip Client" and set perm circulation 01:52 dhon_ added them to the sipconfig.xml 01:52 dhon_ and I can auth as that user 01:53 dhon_ but I'm now getting "raw_transport: LOGIN ERROR: 'Can't call method "use" on an undefined value at /Sip/MsgType.pm line 832.#012'" 01:53 eythian I don't know what that would be. 01:58 eythian jcamins_away: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3576502&group_id=1254&atid=301254 -- I much prefer the bugzilla interface 02:03 eythian wahanui: ha ha cvs is <reply>apt-get install subversion 02:03 wahanui OK, eythian. 02:05 eythian wahanui: ha ha subversion is <reply>apt-get install tla 02:05 wahanui OK, eythian. 02:22 eythian wahanui: ha ha tla is <reply>apt-get install darcs 02:22 wahanui OK, eythian. 02:54 druthb o/ 02:56 eythian druthb: hi there 02:56 eythian https://gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/koha-migration-toolbox/merge_requests <-- got a link for you ;) 02:59 druthb ooooo... 02:59 druthb Has anyone told you lately, eythian, that you're freakin' *brilliant*? Some clever new tricks in there. 02:59 eythian :) 03:01 druthb I've got a carload of updates for that repo, too, but most of 'em are not in that file, so there shouldn't be any *major* conflicts going on. 03:01 druthb One of these moons, I need to get hardcore about making that pile o' goodies more.... rational. 03:01 eythian cool 03:02 eythian yeah, it's not too bad as is, but a refactor as more stuff is added is never a bad thing. 03:02 druthb gmcharlt created a repo for me on git.k-c, but I've not got around to pushing out refactored stuff. 03:03 eythian ah right. Though, the merge request procedure on gitorious might be more useful in general for this type of thing. That said, maybe automatically mirroring there could be worthwhile. 03:03 eythian We* should set up gitorious on k-c.org. 03:03 eythian * someone 03:04 druthb that's my thinking, doing a mirror of the Good Stuff, somehow, and gradually cleaning up the Old Junque. 03:07 druthb One of the things I'd kind of like to do for the biblio_masher.pl script, is the ability to use...oh, YAML or something...to haul in all those params. That way, you could save configs you use over n over--like, Symphony configs are pretty darn common, for instance, or Millennium. biblio_masher.pl --config=config.yml etcetc 03:09 druthb the --itemsub or --col directives get used the same way over and over a lot. Be nice to have in the repo a common config for that, that someone could customize as needed. 03:09 eythian yeah. I use a wiki for that, which contains all the migration steps for a given client, 03:10 druthb yah, me too. I have a <code></code> block where I keep my script list. 03:11 druthb before I spun up that wiki, I was using a .txt file in the client's directory on the work server. The wiki is much nicer. tags++ 03:11 eythian Yeah, it's also handy if someone else has to take over because I'm off sick or something. They immediately know where to look. 03:12 druthb yah. It's helped talljoy and I become more-interchangeable. Keep the notes there, and someone else can sub in pretty quick. 03:12 eythian wahanui: is it beer o'clock? 03:12 eythian wahanui: is it beer o'clock? 03:12 eythian hmm 03:12 eythian wahanui: is it beer o'clock 03:13 eythian wahanui: ping 03:13 wahanui eythian: huh? 03:26 druthb wahanui: beer? 03:26 wahanui beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy. 04:18 dhon_ eythian: all I had to do was add an Instution section to the SIPConfig.xml file that matched the instution used for the patron 04:18 dhon_ I can now authenticate and issue commands over SIP2, thanks for the help 05:33 Maxie Hi! Am looking to set up Koha for the first time but don't have any experience with Koha or Linux environments. Have been reading about Koha and it says I should go for Linux Debian. Was wondering if anyone has done it on Linux Redhat or CentOS 6.2? 05:37 Oak Maxie, https://www.google.com.pk/search?q=koha+on+centos&sugexp=chrome,mod=11&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 05:38 cait Maxie: it will be much harder to do with thoe 05:38 cait Maxie: Debian is the easiest - I woudl stick to that 05:39 cait Ubuntu is ok too 05:40 Oak yup. Debian or Ubuntu is the best choice. 05:40 Oak rebooting 05:41 druthb RedHat Koha installation is a really good way to give yourself ulcers. 05:43 druthb It is theoretically possible, but I've never made it work, and I'm an experienced linux admin. 05:44 rangi Redhat is so old and out of date, that you have to downgrade all the versions of things like zebra, and even perl to get close to getting it running 05:55 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 05:59 cait hi mtompset 05:59 cait hi rangi 05:59 mtompset Greetings, cait. 06:06 mtompset Hmmm... do you have a history.txt file in your Koha installation? 06:14 mtompset It would seem that the docs directory didn't make it into the packages install. 06:18 mtompset Hmmm... even my 3.6.3 tarball didn't install it. 06:19 mtompset Though it has the files. 06:22 alex_a_ bonjour #koha 06:23 rangi hi alex_a_ 06:23 alex_a_ salut rangi :) 06:31 cait hi alex_a_ and bye :) 06:51 reiveune hello 06:51 wahanui what's up, reiveune 06:52 rangi hi reiveune 06:52 reiveune hi rangi 06:53 mtompset salut, alex_a et reiveune 06:53 mtompset Greetings, rangi. 06:53 alex_a bonjour mtompset 07:00 drojf good day #koha 07:04 magnuse kia ora #koha 07:11 rangi hi drojf, asaurat, julian_m, sophie_m and magnuse 07:11 sophie_m hi rangi, hi #koha 07:11 asaurat hi! 07:12 julian_m hi rangi magnuse mtompset 07:12 kf good morning #koha 07:12 eythian hi all 07:12 asaurat hi kf 07:12 mtompset Greetings, julian_m, asaurat, sophie_m drojf, magnuse. ;) 07:12 kf hey eythian and bonjour asaurat :) 07:17 gaetan_B hello 07:17 wahanui hello, gaetan_B 07:23 mtompset Hello, gaetan_B. :) 07:24 gaetan_B bonjour mtompset et wahanui 07:24 gaetan_B :) 07:27 eythian bye all 07:48 kf morning paul_p 07:49 paul_p hi kf. 07:50 paul_p one boy ill, planned to work from home, and murphy's law = DSL box broken last night by an electric shock caused by the rain/lightning... thanks a lot 3G key ! 07:50 mtompset Ooo... IRC split? 07:50 mtompset paul_p: That's a bad situation. 07:51 mtompset Hope your son gets better quickly, and the DSL box gets replaced soon too. 07:51 mtompset Yay! IRC un-split. :) 07:52 paul_p mtompset = for the box, it should be solved in 48-72H maximum (new box sent by UPS) For the boy, should be the same duration, probably ;-) 07:52 kf paul_p: hope your son feels better soon 08:34 kf hm that last tweet from kohagit looks like it got hacked :( 08:34 kf who has control of the account? 08:35 kf ah, the wiki says rangi 08:35 rangi mtj and I 08:35 rangi mtj changed it recently 08:35 kf http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Social_Networks 08:36 kf I was looking here 08:36 kf want me to add mtj? 08:36 rangi i want to just kill the whole thing actually 08:36 kf oh ok 08:37 kf 59 followers 08:37 kf not that many 08:39 rangi gone 08:40 kf want me to delete it from the wiki page? 08:40 rangi yes please 08:41 kf done 08:44 drojf omg i have never seen that wiki page. there is like a million koha places 08:45 rangi basically you have to, or the evil empire will 08:46 kf hm? 08:46 rangi if we dont register, someone else will 08:46 kf ah 08:46 kf hm koha pastebin - is that you rangi? 08:47 rangi nope 08:47 drojf subreddit… *giggles* 08:48 drojf oh 19 readers. that drastically increased 09:00 mtompset Which evil empire, rangi? There are so many now a days. :( 09:01 kf evil empires interested in appearing in context of the koha name 09:20 kf hm hope someone told her that remaping item fields is a really bad idea :( http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/fi16z/anybody_out_there_using_koha/ 09:22 drojf her? 09:23 kf hm not sure, ellie sounded female 09:23 kf so him/her 09:24 drojf [off] i kind of think that is libsysguy ;) 09:25 kf aaah 09:27 gerundio hi, I'm trying to install an additional language following the instructions at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client 09:28 gerundio I'm experiencing some errors 09:28 gerundio tmpl_process3.pl: Warning: unconsistent %s count 09:28 kf youa re trying to install an additional language? 09:28 kf ah sorry... I missed your first sentence 09:28 gerundio this one I think is because of a bad translation job 09:28 kf which language and version is it? 09:28 gerundio pt-PT in latest koha release 09:29 gerundio the 2nd error I got is "Koha directories hierarchy for pt-PT must be created first" 09:29 kf you can ignore that 09:29 kf and just try to rerun 09:29 kf I think I had this happen before 09:29 kf for the errors - it happens sometimes 09:29 gerundio already rerun and the same happens over and over 09:30 kf what you can do is get an account at translate.koha-community.org 09:30 gerundio to fix the 1st problem, right? 09:30 kf and download newer files from there 09:30 kf and fix the problems :) 09:31 kf you could also take a look at the po file with a tool like poedit 09:31 kf they can be quite helpful to find the problematic strings 09:31 gerundio I'm familiar with poedit, used it in other projects 09:32 gerundio the 1st problem is not a real issue for me :) 09:32 gerundio I just need to do as you say 09:32 gerundio the 2nd one refering to the directories hierarchy is the one bugging me 09:32 kf hm yes 09:32 kf have you tried created the directories? 09:33 kf it should be a directory named with the language code 09:33 kf in the 2 template directories for opac and intranet 09:33 kf koha-tmpl/.../prog - same level as the en directory 09:34 gerundio /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/ and /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/, right? 09:34 gerundio I found these references online regarding the default installation directories 09:35 gerundio they're there 09:36 gerundio the new language still doesn't show up in the web installer though 09:36 gerundio well EN it is then, I just wanted to make sure it was pre-installed :| 09:41 gerundio I'm on Step 3 of the Web installer now, where I'm asked to choose the Default Settings 09:41 gerundio Default UNIMARC bibligraphic framework in English. 09:41 gerundio is there any way to add Default UNIMARC bibligraphic framework in other languages?? 09:42 gerundio btw, there's a typo there, it should be bibliographic instead of bibligraphic, right? 09:44 kf sorry gerundio - I am at work 09:44 kf there is no web installer in pt-PT yet I fear 09:44 kf no sample files and translation of the framework 09:45 kf most of the things added by the web installer can be changed in koha itself later 09:46 kf and it would be cool if you translated them to provide them for others to use later 09:47 gerundio kf, I'm at work too, so I completly understand if you don't answer... take your time :) 09:47 gerundio ok, I'll try to take some time to improve the translations 09:54 kf awesome :) 09:55 kf there is a mailng list for translators if you have questions 09:55 kf mailing lists? 09:55 wahanui mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 09:55 kf koha-translate 09:56 kf I am nto sure who is curently working on the pt-PT translations, but you might be able to contact them over the list 10:09 gaetan_B bye ! 10:23 gerundio is there any way, other than SQL injection, to import item types from one Koha installation to another one? 10:27 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3652 XSS vulnerability in facets <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a4bf495f3b7763059d6ceab2001fbf07313ca00d> / Bug 3652: XSS vulnerability in page numbering <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2e30600a5827deb1686d56ea00c27c232b22b7bc> / Bug 3652 : [SIGNED-OFF] [SECURITY] XSS vulnerability <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=53309fab 10:28 kf gerundio: hm no, there is no import/export for this 10:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #875 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 10:28 kf gerundio: most only have a few so and moving around does not happen so often 10:29 kf jcamins_away: around? 10:30 WaqarAzeem Good Everning! (Evening+Morning) :) 10:30 WaqarAzeem I need to make some modification in koha patron page. So the admin can generate the PDF card from there. 10:33 WaqarAzeem the file print.pl already an implementation that if a list of borrower_number are provided then it start to create a pdf having all the patron (using the template layout of batch printing) 10:35 WaqarAzeem so, i have two question? from where i can print the card of patron without making a batch? 10:36 WaqarAzeem The second is not a question but a Bug! that was leting me not to use this code. 10:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7412' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=65be03846d064dd6d9e7159550a269a352054b65> / Bug 7412: Follow up: Update preference to sentence <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=884005db08234d83ba17ede00b90d08ddf96933d> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7751' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=comm 10:42 gerundio kf, thanks for the input on that 10:43 gerundio I'm struggling here with a work colleague who just talks about injecting stuff directly into the DB 10:43 kf WaqarAzeem: sorry I haven't used the patron card printing functionality so far - you might get better answers using th amiling list 10:43 kf gerundio: it can be done for some things, but might have side effects for others or just not work (like bilbiographic data) - you shoudl be careful and know what you do 10:44 gerundio my argument exactly 10:44 gerundio I just want to use Koha right now, I don't need to know its insides :D 10:45 WaqarAzeem thanks kf, can i brows the code online. 10:45 WaqarAzeem *browse 10:47 mtompset Just got a Transient Delivery Failure. I hate when the mailing list sends me stuff like this when I send a reply to someone's question. *sigh* Hopefully it will correct itself. 10:47 kf jcamins_away: if you are around... I could need some help finding the correct marc21 fields for a library (patents and posters) 10:52 mtompset Is the Koha development team just the people that added enhancements? (looking at the about page) 10:54 kf it's everyone with a patch in koha 10:54 kf the list matches the history file 10:59 syed hello 11:00 syed any body here 11:00 syed i need to help koha web customisation 11:32 magnuse kia ora jwagner 11:33 jwagner hi magnuse 11:34 mtompset Greetings, jwagner. 11:35 jwagner and hi mtompset 11:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #875: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/875/ 11:38 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 8633 Manage OPAC alternate templates 11:38 jenkins_koha * veron: Bug 8812 - Staff Client: Patron search should display branch name instead of branch code in results table 11:38 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8636: Add dependency on Test::Deep 11:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8633 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Translate script hardcoded to prog template 11:38 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 3652 : [SIGNED-OFF] [SECURITY] XSS vulnerability 11:38 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 3652: XSS vulnerability in page numbering 11:38 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 3652 XSS vulnerability in facets 11:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8812 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Staff Client: Patron search should display branch name instead of branch code in results table 11:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8636 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Some dependencies are not listed by the installer 11:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , XSS vulnerabilities 11:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #876 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 12:05 kf hm 12:06 kf does someone know where patent numbers in marc21 go? 12:06 kf @marc 013 12:06 huginn kf: Information used to control patent documents. In addition to information about patents, this field may contain information relating to inventors' certificates, utility certificates, utility models, patents or certificates of addition, inventors' certificates of addition, utility certificates of addition, and published applications for any of these. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,6,8] 12:06 kf guess I found it :) 12:14 magnuse yay! 12:18 kf hi oleonard :) 12:18 oleonard Hi 12:19 * oleonard is back and ready for more 12:21 mtompset Greetings, oleonard. More what? 12:22 oleonard You know, stuff. 12:42 nengard can someone remind me what field the language limit on the advanced search is checking? 12:42 nengard is it the 008 and the 041? http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/kohasearchindexes.html 12:42 nengard is that what 'ln' is 12:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #876: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/876/ 12:47 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7751: Decrease loan length with many holds 12:47 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 7412: Follow up: Update preference to sentence 12:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7751 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Master , Decrease loan period on items with a high number of holds 12:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7412 enhancement, P3, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Pre-filling items in cataloguing 13:01 magnuse success! \o/ 13:04 nengard can someone remind me what field the language limit on the advanced search is checking? is it the 008 and the 041? http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/kohasearchindexes.html is that what 'ln' is 13:27 * oleonard offers nengard this photo of a squirrel in a party hat in lieu of MARC advice: http://cuteoverload.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/8051316701_e5a0c6deeb_b1.jpg?w=560 13:31 nengard well thank you oleonard! 13:31 * oleonard hated to see you empty-handed 13:38 magnuse oleonard++ 13:41 nengard hehe 13:42 nengard jcamins will know the answer 13:42 nengard but he's away right now 13:45 wizzyrea that is one party hardened squirrel 13:47 mtompset oleonard++ # nice Squirrel -- Does this means someone's Koha isn't working right now? ;) 13:48 wizzyrea i would totally put that on the "no results" page. 13:48 oleonard Party squirrel has finger-foods instead of network cables I would guess 13:48 * mtompset laughs, "Totally, wizzyrea!" 13:49 mtompset Actually, perhaps it would be better on a connection timed out page. 13:49 wizzyrea "we couldn't find anything, but here's a partying squirrel." 13:54 oleonard If that's the best thing that happens for Koha on a Friday, I think we count ourselves lucky. 13:54 oleonard ...with all due respect to other time zones 13:54 mtompset It's still Friday here. 13:55 mtompset I think Australia and NZ are out of Friday now. 13:58 wizzyrea it's early early saturday :) 14:00 nengard kf you did some testing on bug 7751 - do you know if it lowers the loan period on things already checked out? or just items checked out after the hold limit has been reached? 14:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7751 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Master , Decrease loan period on items with a high number of holds 14:00 nengard I don't see a test plan on there so I'm not sure how it's supposed to work - and I'm documenting it 14:01 kf_mtg it's for items checked out 14:01 kf_mtg if there are many holds it will increase the loan period 14:01 kf_mtg it's a feature academics here do to 14:01 kf_mtg I only did a code review, but there is lots of information in the comments - some from paul I think too when he did test it 14:01 nengard if the items are checked out already - meaning I checked it out and had 2 weeks a week ago, but today there are many holds so I only have a few more days instead of another week 14:01 nengard ? 14:02 nengard yeah i read the comments and was still not sure 14:02 kf_mtg yeah 14:03 kf_mtg normally you would have a very long time to betgin with I think 14:03 kf_mtg and then it would get shortened 14:03 kf_mtg not sure if the feature includes sending out a mail 14:03 kf_mtg I think one of the big academics here used to send you a postcard 14:03 nengard hmmm ? seems like that would need a cron job of some sort to work 14:03 kf_mtg it can be triggered by placing the hold 14:03 nengard anyone from ptfs-europe around to help explain bug 7751 for documentation? 14:04 kf_mtg it needs a trigger 14:04 nengard okay - a hold would be a trigger ? 14:04 nengard hmmmm 14:04 kf_mtg did you see the system preferences? 14:04 nengard yes 14:04 nengard i understand what it does - just not when it does it 14:05 kf_mtg hm maybe I misunderstand it... let me reread it 14:05 kf_mtg i found this from paul: 14:05 kf_mtg "It reduces the check-out duration of an item by [decreaseLoanHighHolds] days for items that have more than [decreaseLoanHighHoldsValue] holds pending." ? 14:05 nengard let me try to re-explain what I'm looking for 14:05 kf_mtg I think you were right 14:05 kf_mtg it might be for checking out items 14:05 kf_mtg not for checked out 14:06 kf_mtg sometimes it's aproblem when you have something similar happen in libraries you know - wrong expectations 14:06 nengard Patron A has an item checked out with a due date of Nov 1, someone comes along and places a hold on the item they have checked out and the preference is set to decrease the loan length, does Patron A have a new due date? or do they still have a due date of Nov 1? 14:06 kf_mtg I think he doesn't get a new due_date 14:06 kf_mtg I was wrong 14:06 kf_mtg so say normally the loan period is 4 weeks 14:07 kf_mtg but if thre are 5 pending holds 14:07 nengard Patron B comes around and checked out a book today, normally they would get 2 weeks but the item has too many holds on it, does that change their due date at the time they check out by the number of days in the preference? 14:07 kf_mtg it's only checked out for 2 weeks to each 14:07 kf_mtg I think 14:07 nengard so the old due date isn't changed, just new due dates 14:07 kf_mtg I guess a test would be best 14:07 kf_mtg I think so from glancing at comments 14:07 nengard k - i'll write that and then put on my list of things to test 14:07 nengard thanks! 14:07 kf_mtg sorry for misinformation at first ) 14:08 nengard that's a-ok - I wasn't being clear 14:08 mtompset Good day (24 hour period), #koha. 14:08 nengard hehe 14:08 nengard to you too 14:08 kf_mtg and I misunderstood I think when looking at the bug the first time around 14:08 * mtompset smiles. 14:09 kf_mtg ah see here is the message for the checkout screen: 14:09 kf_mtg <li>High demand item. Loan period shortened to [% HIGHHOLDS.duration %] days (due [% HIGHHOLDS.returndate %]). Check out anyway?</li> 14:09 kf_mtg it will ask you 14:10 nengard thanks!!! 14:12 kf_mtg yw 14:12 nengard yikes 14:12 nengard it's not decreased by a number of days 14:12 nengard it's decreased to a number of days 14:13 nengard eek 14:13 nengard need to update the preference 14:13 kf_mtg did you test? 14:13 nengard just now 14:13 kf_mtg guess it makes more sense this way 14:13 kf_mtg but yeah, confusing pref 14:13 nengard well i did make it less confusing 14:13 nengard by combining it 14:13 nengard but i used the word 'by' and it needs to be the word 'to' 14:13 nengard fixing now 14:17 * kf_mtg is working on how to catalogue posters 14:21 nengard fun! 14:21 nengard bug 7751 needs a sign off - simple string patch if anyone wants to tackle it 14:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7751 critical, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Decrease loan period on items with a high number of holds 15:07 jcamins nengard: that's correct. 15:07 nengard it's the 041 and the 008? 15:07 nengard cause if so I found ab ug 15:07 nengard a bug 15:07 nengard it appears to only check the 041 ? this is an isolated test 15:09 jcamins You are correct. 15:09 jcamins It's a bug. 15:09 jcamins What's weird about this is that I -- or someone following my instructions -- have patched it no fewer than three times. 15:09 jcamins We have ln:n when it should be ln:w. 15:10 jcamins mveron fixed it. 15:12 jcamins At some point. 15:12 jcamins @query language 15:12 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3092 normal, P1 - high, ---, frederic, NEW , Data values storage and use 100 bug meta-bug 15:12 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2559 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Language limit on Spanish returns Russian records or is it English ... 15:12 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7541 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, NEW , News items won't display for translated dialects 15:12 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5052 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Can't choose languages if all choices are sublanguages 15:12 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Translations Manager 15:15 jcamins Bug 7586. 15:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7586 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Search: Language restriction does NOT show expected results (no items shown) 15:16 nengard thanks jcamins 15:16 nengard (sorry was doing documentation) 15:17 jcamins It took me a while to find the bug. 15:17 jcamins Hm. 15:17 jcamins That should be in 3.8.x and 3.6.x. 15:17 jcamins It is. 15:17 nengard yes 15:18 jcamins Okay, good. 15:18 nengard so probably 3.10 15:18 nengard my test was in 3.8 15:18 jcamins Rather, it's in 3.6.x. 15:18 jcamins Maybe not 3.8 or 3.10, somehow? 15:19 nengard it's in 3.8.x 15:19 nengard that's where i found it 15:19 jcamins The bug is. 15:19 nengard yes 15:19 jcamins The patch is in 3.6.x. 15:19 nengard oh!!! 15:19 nengard okay 15:19 nengard sorry - brain shutting down for Friday :) 15:35 jcamins Alas, all the BibLibrans left before I remembered to ask if any of them had sample UNIMARC data other than the sandbox data. 15:37 oleonard Surprising little to remove for Bug 8899 15:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8899 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Remove unused CSS declarations from staff client CSS 15:37 jcamins oleonard: I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. 15:38 oleonard I guess it's bad if anyone hoped staff-global.css would be drastically shrunk 15:39 oleonard But it's good because it means we're mostly tidying up after ourselves? 15:42 jcamins clrh++ 15:45 oleonard What was that for jcamins? 15:46 jcamins oleonard: UNIMARC data. :) 15:46 jcamins Good UNIMARC authorities = better authority testing 15:51 clrh I learned mysqldump --where="1 limit 20000" :) 16:48 howell4c Is it possible to use the packages installation of Koha on Ubuntu 12.04 without a domain name? I want to access the OPAC/staff site on 127.0.0.1 for testing. 16:49 jcamins howell4c: yes, you just have to set different ports. 16:50 howell4c I set INTRAPORT="8080" and OPACPORT="80" in /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf, but when I go to http://127.0.0.1:8080, I get a message that the browser can't establish a connection to the server. I must have missed something else. 16:51 jcamins howell4c: you have to tell Apache to listen on port 8080. 16:51 jcamins The packages don't do that, since that's generally considered poor form. 16:51 jcamins Just add "Listen 8080" to /etc/apache2/ports.conf 16:51 howell4c OK, I'll try that. Thanks a lot. 16:51 jcamins And restart Apache. 16:53 howell4c now I'm getting "/ was not found on this server" 16:53 jcamins Probably the VirtualHost directive is pointing to only one of your network interfaces, and it isn't the one you want. 16:55 howell4c How do I tell what the directive is pointing to, and change it? 16:55 howell4c Or is there a better way to run Koha on a standalone machine when I don't have a domain name to give it? 16:56 jcamins Look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/[your instance] 16:57 howell4c That did it. Thanks a lot for your help. 16:57 jcamins You're welcome. 17:06 Oak @wunder Konstanz 17:06 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 12.0°C (7:00 PM CEST on October 12, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 17:06 Oak @later tell kf time to go home. 17:06 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded. 17:19 kf_mtg Oak: I will in 10 minuts 17:19 Oak :) 18:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #200 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:30 rangi morning 18:31 rangi hmm triple figures in the needs signoff queue again 18:32 rangi khall++ 18:32 rangi trying to reduce it 18:32 rangi ohh and three signoffs to melia 18:32 rangi melia++ 18:33 melia yeah, I'm beating you rangi!! 18:33 rangi hehe you are! 18:33 rangi so is mveron and oleonard-away 18:33 * rangi will have to fix that hehe 18:35 * jcamins goes to eat a late lunch. 18:40 rangi hmm confusing 18:48 jcamins You know what I can't figure out? 18:49 jcamins Who said "I know, let's make sure there are no stable URLs in our library catalog. That would definitely better serve our user base than usable links." 18:51 rangi oh 18:51 rangi every vendor except koha? 18:52 jcamins It would seem so. 18:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #200: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/200/ 18:52 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 3652 : [SIGNED-OFF] [SECURITY] XSS vulnerability 18:52 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 3652: XSS vulnerability in page numbering 18:52 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 3652 XSS vulnerability in facets 18:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , XSS vulnerabilities 18:55 rangi have i shown you what 70k$nz a year forever in licensing and support gets you? 18:55 jcamins You have not, no. 18:56 rangi http://wanganui.kotui.org.nz/ or http://hurunui.kotui.org.nz/ or http://timaru.kotui.org.nz/ 18:57 jcamins EBSCO? 18:57 rangi ebsco + symphony 18:58 rangi why yes i do want all my opac searches to go via the USA ...when im sitting in a library in timaru 18:58 jcamins Wow. Winningest system ever. 18:58 rangi because you know, sending something over a slow international link for 14 hops is a great idea 18:58 oleonard I don't know what you're complaining about, http://ehis.ebscohost.com/eds/results?sid=9c72fd0e-1c5a-4e9e-a310-d089111a09c4%40sessionmgr14&vid=2&hid=22&bquery=harry+AND+potter&bdata=JmNsaTA9RlQxJmNsdjA9WSZ0eXBlPTAmc2l0ZT1lZHMtbGl2ZSZzY29wZT1zaXRl is very memorable. 18:58 rangi heh 18:58 rangi session ids in urls 18:59 rangi seriously 18:59 nengard i'm looking for a bug report that i know i signed off on ? it was about reports that had nested selects 18:59 rangi in this day and age 18:59 nengard i think the patch was written by robin ? anyone know the bug number? 18:59 nengard my searches are failing me 18:59 rangi nope 18:59 jcamins nengard: Bug 8594. 18:59 oleonard Bug 8594? 18:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8594 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , A report containing a subquery that has a 'limit' will have that limit stripped out 18:59 nengard wow 18:59 nengard you're awesome 18:59 nengard both of you 18:59 jcamins rangi: especially winning are the subject headings. 19:00 jcamins Waitaminute. 19:00 cait rangi: ew 19:00 jcamins There's something familiar about these results. 19:02 jcamins [off] What are the chances that their relevance ranking would put items in the same order as ours, keeping in mind that our relevance ranking is abysmal? 19:04 oleonard [off] Wow jcamins is such a library nerd he recognizes the ranking of search results?! 19:04 oleonard [off] Hats off to your keen eye jcamins 19:05 jcamins [off] I have a US public library's bib database for testing. The contents are quite similar to an NZ public library's collection, apparently. I automatically fell back to looking for my preferred record (number 4), and *found it there*. 19:05 jcamins [off] Could just be a coincidence, but talk about wacky. 19:09 rangi [off]i wonder what they use in the back, probably solr 19:10 jcamins [off] EBSCO used to be Z39.50-based. 19:10 cait [off] I think it's solr, you can integrate their index with vufind 19:11 cait [off] my coworker did with a test account 19:11 rangi [off] makes sense 19:11 rangi [off] either way, it's balls 19:12 jcamins [off] Oh, definitely. 19:13 jcamins [off] 70k NZD seems rather low for those two companies. 19:13 rangi [off] that's per year for ever, and not the migration costs 19:14 rangi [off] it might be more for bigger libraries 19:14 jcamins [off] Still, that's supposedly a national catalog, and there are universities that are paying more than that, easily. 19:14 jcamins [off] Wait, that's PER LIBRARY?!?!? 19:15 rangi [off] per library 19:15 jcamins [off] Okay, prices are in line with what I've heard from them. 19:15 rangi [off] so i think its about 500k a year currently 19:16 cait [off] you pay the index/data, not the search interface - well that too, but the big chunk is the index. 19:16 cait [off] rangi: is that ebsco + symphony or only one? 19:17 rangi [off] it cost something like 350k for the new plymouth migration, more than we quoted for ALL libraries 19:17 cait [off] ouch. :( 19:18 cait [off] I understand that decision even less now than before. 19:18 rangi [off] 13 currently * 70k ... and its a union catalogue 19:18 jcamins [off] I'm reminded of the BOFH story where the Boss negotiates the contract with a vendor. 19:18 rangi [off] per year .. someone is laughing all the way to the bank 19:19 rangi [off] imagine what we could do with 910k a year 19:20 * cait nods 19:20 jcamins [off] You could have search rewritten. 19:20 rangi [off] 5 times 19:21 cait [off] you would have some hardware/hosting/maintenance and support staff costs 19:21 cait [off] but it's still a lot I think 19:21 jcamins [off] I'd suggest just doing it once. :P 19:21 jcamins [off] But correctly. 19:21 rangi [off] yeah we host much bigger sites than that, its not rocket science :) 19:22 cait [off] wlel, maybe for some it is :) 19:23 jcamins [off] NASA, for example. 19:23 cait [off] lol 19:24 rangi the stuff we are doing in the middle east for example 19:24 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/7781499/Catalyst-notes-shift-in-open-source-attitude 19:26 cait oh 19:26 cait why was behind stuff? 19:26 rangi ? 19:27 jcamins What? 19:27 * rangi cant parse that 19:28 rangi hi mveron 19:28 mveron Hi rangi 19:29 mveron I was at the Frankfurt Book Fair yesterday. The presentation of New Zealand was really great! 19:29 mveron http://www.nzatfrankfurt.govt.nz/ 19:29 rangi oh cool 19:29 rangi did you see a haka? 19:29 cait they wrote you were behind the original stuff site 19:29 cait is catalyst no longer doing stuff? 19:30 rangi yep it is 19:30 rangi journalists don't listen :) 19:30 jcamins rangi: the journalists for stuff.co.nz don't know who is behind their site? 19:30 rangi yup 19:31 rangi unsuprisingly, they probably never touch it 19:31 cait oh 19:31 rangi they write for print still 19:31 * oleonard seconds the notion that journalists don't listen 19:31 rangi its only the editors who touch the site 19:31 oleonard I think my library has yet to have a story written about it that didn't contain a factual error or made-up quote 19:31 rangi yeah 19:32 mveron I watched the Tatau Dance group, http://www.nzatfrankfurt.govt.nz/events/ria-hall-and-puawai-cairns-tatau-pacific-dance-group 19:32 cait in my home town they mess up times and dates for events a lot 19:32 cait it's really annoying for the institutions 19:32 cait but heard the same stories about other towns as well... 19:33 rangi http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/3F65C01EAB666AC6CC25710F00805997 (im misquoted 3 times here) 19:33 rangi mveron: oh yeah those are cool! 19:35 rangi ria hall lives not far from me 19:36 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Hhomgzz3M 19:36 mveron BTW, there will be a little Literature Festival in Switzeland dedicated to NZ: http://www.literaturtagezofingen.ch/index.php?id=710 19:36 * jcamins decides to use 787. 19:36 jcamins I guess this means I'm going to have to provide a patch making 787 useful. 19:37 cait jcamins: ?? 19:37 cait bug 787 19:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=787 blocker, P2, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Non-MARC interface does not save copright and subjects information 19:37 cait hm not what you mant 19:37 jcamins @marc 787 19:37 huginn jcamins: Information concerning the work related to the target item when the relationship does not fit any of those defined in fields 760-785. (Repeatable) [b,c,d,g,h,i,k,m,n,o,r,s,t,u,w,x,y,z,6,7,8] 19:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8175 - check logs error or displays incorrectly in details.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8f4b1fa146650fc9ff6c47be80e1f5a34863a9f> / Bug 8843 - Cannot export bibliographic records by call number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=caec1ddfa48b3bf8581b27dc45cba404a47d4a27> / Bug 8718 - Normal catalogue detail view in staff client doesn't show missing seri 19:38 cait ugh. ok. 19:38 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vh-tGolbbU&feature=relmfu 19:38 jcamins It was between that and 700t for bound-withs, and I think that wins, barely. 19:42 mveron rangi: Great voices! 19:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #877 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:44 rangi http://riahall.bandcamp.com/album/ria-hall 19:46 jcamins Why can't we use 787$w for linking bound-withs? 19:46 jcamins Anyone? And I mean, legitimate reasons, not just "but biblionumber is unfriendly." 19:46 rangi i cant think of a reason 19:47 * jcamins either. 19:48 cait biblionumber is unfriendly. 19:48 cait ? :) 19:48 cait can I put my 001 in there? 19:48 cait :P 19:49 cait ok ignore me, it was a long day 19:49 jcamins We should be using your 001 for biblionumber. 19:49 cait as long as it's optional 19:49 cait hm 19:49 cait hm 19:50 cait Iguess we could replace, as long as there are scripts building the relationships 19:50 jcamins If you are bulk importing records with a consistent identifier already existing, that identifier should be used. Otherwise, the biblionumber should be automatically generated. 19:50 jcamins And we should once and for all eliminate the wholly misunderstood idea that "001 should have OCLC number." 19:50 * jcamins delegates this project to kf. 19:50 cait lol 19:51 jcamins Ah, isn't being RM great? 19:51 cait I am qam, not your secretary 19:52 jcamins Quality would be assured if you were the one managing the implementation of intelligent 001 handling. :P 19:53 cait jcamins: aha 19:54 cait I will delegate it to one of the qaa then 19:54 cait :P 19:54 jcamins Hehe. 19:54 * jcamins suggests that libsysguy probably doesn't have enough to do. 19:55 cait lol 19:55 libsysguy ... 19:55 libsysguy don't make me put up the DND sign :p 19:55 cait hm? ) 19:55 libsysguy DND =~ do not disturn :p 19:56 libsysguy disturb ** 19:56 cait oh we will give you all the piece and quiet you need for this project 19:56 libsysguy heh I'll bet 19:57 libsysguy don't you want me to finish the calendar project first? 19:57 libsysguy I don't know about you guys but I'm ready to be done with it :p 19:57 libsysguy so I can hand it off to testing 19:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8869 - Duplicate member check doesn't disable submit button on bottom. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=782e1845f3c77f68fe144df91c88b894aecb9607> / Bug 8863: When clearing a patron attribute, they are all cleared <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a38631838b494079a1d0ad5fc7bdb706dacadc4> / Bug 8851 - strange blue bar above serials results <http://git.koha-co 19:57 * jcamins uses 787s, not the calendar. :P 19:59 libsysguy now now jcamins, since you are future RM you have to take into consideration all of the users in the Koha userbase 19:59 libsysguy heh 19:59 jcamins libsysguy: I am. All users of Koha will be happier if I'm not grouchy about the lack of 787 support. :P 19:59 libsysguy HAHAHA 19:59 cait tre 20:00 cait true 20:08 cait oleonard: 20:08 cait oleonard++ 20:08 jcamins oleonard++ 20:09 * oleonard concedes that he is indeed devilishly handsome 20:10 cait heh 20:10 cait acq bug 20:11 oleonard yes, I hadn't forgotten about that project 20:11 oleonard I have a patch ready which includes some incremental improvements 20:11 jcamins incremental_improvements++ 20:11 cait whohoo 20:11 jcamins @karma incremental_improvements 20:11 huginn jcamins: Karma for "incremental_improvements" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. 20:11 cait incremental_improvements++ 20:17 balin Just installed a play koha in debian ... z39.50 search for cataloging is not working for me. I have the library of congress defined in targets but when I try to make a z39.50 search, the window that pops up remains empty ... any pointers on where to start looking? 20:18 jcamins balin: you mean you do a search in LC and no matter what you search for, there are never any results? 20:18 jcamins Most likely it's a firewall. 20:19 balin jcamins: no. I can't even search as the search mask itself remains blank (and eventually fails with loading error). FW 210 is open. 20:19 oleonard Neat, Obama is coming to Athens next week. 20:20 jcamins So /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/z3950_search.pl does not load? 20:20 jcamins What version of Koha? 20:20 balin jcamins: exactly - new window pops up yet remians blank. 20:20 jcamins But other pages are still working? 20:21 balin yes 20:21 jcamins That's very bizarre. 20:21 jcamins What version of Koha, and which browser? 20:22 balin 3.08.05.000, firefox and chrome both 20:23 jcamins How did you install it? 20:23 balin throiugh the debian repository 20:23 balin http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4_on_Debian_Squeeze 20:23 jcamins Okay, that's a good way to install it. 20:23 jcamins The result should be a fully-working Koha installation. 20:24 balin Looks like one too ... this is the only hickup I get. 20:24 jcamins Anything in the logs? 20:24 jcamins /var/log/koha/[instance]/koha-error-log (or something like that) 20:25 balin [error] [client 10.10.10.1] [Fri Oct 12 19:57:30 2012] z3950servers.pl: Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/z3950servers.pl line 103., referer: https://bibliothek-admin.<ME>.net/cgi-bin/koha/admin/z3950servers.pl 20:25 balin But that refers to something before the search? 20:26 jcamins Yeah, that is not an actual error, and has nothing to do with the problem you're seeing. 20:27 jcamins Try navigating directly to the /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/z3950_search.pl page. 20:28 balin Ha! That works! 20:29 jcamins balin: I suspect a problem with your IntranetBase syspref. 20:29 jcamins I may have just made that name up. 20:29 jcamins Somewhere in Staff client. 20:29 oleonard Geez did Mozilla pull Firefox 16.0.1 too? 20:30 oleonard staffClientBaseURL 20:30 jcamins oleonard: what does everyone have against Firefox 16.0.1? 20:30 jcamins That's the one. 20:30 balin its empty. 20:31 jcamins Try filling that in with the URL to your staff client. 20:31 balin which is what? 20:31 jcamins https://bibliothek-admin.<YOU>.net 20:31 cait what does the url say you are looking at right now? 20:31 oleonard Mine is empty too. I wouldn't expect that to cause an error under normal circumstances. 20:32 cait oh balin - are you speaking German 20:32 cait ? 20:32 balin cait: ja. 20:32 cait ah :) 20:32 jcamins oleonard: hm. 20:32 balin jcamins: filling that url doesn' change the problem. 20:32 jcamins Well, at least we've ruled out a possibility. 20:33 jcamins Where are you following a link to that from? 20:33 balin cataloging --> z39.50 search 20:33 cait @wunder Konstanz 20:34 cait :) 20:34 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.6°C (10:30 PM CEST on October 12, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 20:35 cait hm, das sollte funktionieren 20:37 jcamins It looks like it is going to storm. 20:38 cait ah, how do you predict that? 20:39 jcamins cait: I look out the window at the tree branches whipping in the wind and the clouds, and reflect that I didn't bring a waterproof jacket. 20:39 cait aah 20:39 cait you talk about your place :) 20:40 jcamins Yes. 20:41 jcamins I hope it doesn't. I want to buy a surge protector, which means going out and finding somewhere to buy a surge protector. 20:41 oleonard A race against time and lightning! 20:42 jcamins oleonard: that's a horrifying thought. 20:43 jcamins oleonard: I hadn't considered that if there's a ground fault in this client's surge protector and there's a lightning storm it could be very dramatic. 20:43 jcamins (why yes, this client lives in a tall building overlooking the river) 20:44 cait i am sure i thas seen some thunderstorms already 20:45 jcamins cait: the surge protector did not make a shorted out-y buzzing sound last week. 20:46 jcamins And one doesn't use halon in a home. 20:50 oleonard Have a good weekend everyone 20:51 cait you too oleonard :) 20:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #877: SUCCESS in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/877/ 20:53 jenkins_koha * I.Brown: Bug 7643 - Can't upload and import zipped file of patron images 20:53 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8766 - OPACBaseURL still called as OPACBaseurl in many files 20:53 jenkins_koha * dcook: Bug 8718 - Normal catalogue detail view in staff client doesn't show missing serials or subscription history note 20:53 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8843 - Cannot export bibliographic records by call number 20:53 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8175 - check logs error or displays incorrectly in details.pl 20:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7643 normal, P5 - low, ---, I.Brown, Pushed to Master , Can't upload and import zipped file of patron images 20:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8766 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , OPACBaseURL still called as OPACBaseurl in many files 20:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8718 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Normal catalogue detail view in staff client doesn't show missing serials or subscription history note 20:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8843 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Cannot export bibliographic records by call number 20:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8175 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , items.materials check logs error or displays incorrectly in details.pl 20:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #878 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #878: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/878/ 22:04 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8851 - strange blue bar above serials results 22:04 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8863: When clearing a patron attribute, they are all cleared 22:04 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8869 - Duplicate member check doesn't disable submit button on bottom. 22:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8851 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , strange blue bar above serials results 22:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8863 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , When clearing a patron attribute, they are all cleared 22:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8869 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Duplicate member check doesn't disable submit button on bottom.