Time Nick Message
00:01 eythian "well I'm not doing anything more interesting in 2013" :)
00:43 jcamins_1way mtj: I don't know that DBIx is a better ORM than Rose::DB. But I don't really care about which is objectively superior. I have heard good things about DBIx. I have heard good things about Rose::DB. Of the two, I know more about DBIx, and that seems to be true of a lot of people. That's good enough for me. Any time we talk about a major decision, we never make it.
00:46 mtj yeah, thats pretty much how i feel too :)
00:46 rangi working code wins
00:47 mtj yeah, amen to that
01:16 * mtompset smirks, "Just read that Cataloging authorities thread."
01:35 eythian @later tell druthb can you please resend that unicorn masher command you sent me a while ago? the paste has expired, and my IRC logs have a shortened version :(
01:35 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
01:39 mtompset unicorn masher?!
01:40 eythian @later tell druthb belay that, google had cached a copy of the paste that I was able to get out of it :)
01:40 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
01:41 eythian mtompset: unmashed unicorn is not so good.
01:44 eythian He clearly disagrees.
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05:35 Amit_Gupta hi koha
05:41 magnuse kia ora #koha!
05:47 mtompset Greetings, Amit_Gupta magnuse
05:50 Amit_Gupta heya matompset
05:50 magnuse hiya mtompset
05:51 magnuse ...and Amit_Gupta
05:51 mtompset Do people actually define a "demo" value in the koha-conf.xml file?!
05:54 magnuse a demo value?
05:56 mtompset Yes, a demo value.
05:57 mtompset line 152 of marctagstructure.pl in 3.8.5
05:58 mtompset I can't even find documentation related to this.
05:58 mtompset Basically... a demo value == 1 seems to prevent the updating or insertion of a record.
05:59 mtompset I really don't like "unless (condition) { ... }"
05:59 mtompset oh well... someone else's coding style. :(
05:59 eythian agreed, it should be (condition) || { ... }
06:00 eythian as for demo value, we don't. Our demo just reloads from a database early each morning
06:00 eythian s/ase/ase dump/
06:00 * magnuse too
06:01 mtompset actually ... why not "if (!condition) { ... }"
06:01 mtompset avoid short-circuiting logic. it's easier to read.
06:01 magnuse unless is probably meant to give code that reads more like natural language? but i'm not a fan either
06:02 eythian a stray ! is harder to spot than 'unless'
06:02 magnuse yup
06:02 mtompset It isn't a problem if someone comments the code better. ;)
06:03 mtompset # now check for this case so we can blah.
06:04 mtompset But I understand your valid point.
06:08 mtompset Okay... now to finally get around to patching something up for bug 8777
06:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8777 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Quiet errors in circulation.pl
06:21 mtompset BAH! This is why jcamins said that anything older than 2 years is likely not findable.
06:25 mtompset http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-cvs/2003-August/018267.html
06:25 mtompset This mentioned the "demo" mode.
06:40 Amit_Gupta heya julian_m
06:40 wahanui Good luck getting ten words out of this one...
06:40 julian_m hello Amit_Gupta
06:44 reiveune hello
06:51 mtompset salut, reiveune. :)
06:52 mtompset Bonjour, alex_a
06:52 reiveune salut mtompset :)
06:58 alex_a salut mtompset :)
06:59 * mtompset smiles, "Greetings to everyone!"
07:02 gaetan_B hello
07:03 mtompset Question: if I don't want my zebra information to have a database of biblios, how do I change it?
07:03 mtompset That is, various z39.50 clients give a different DB name. How do I change that?
07:03 mtompset Greetings, gaetan_B
07:05 magnuse mtompset: i'm not sure you can change it, but if you can it would have to happen in koha-con.xml, i guess
07:06 mtompset Maybe cait would know. She knows everything. ;)
07:06 cait uhoh
07:06 magnuse it would be cool if, on a multi koha install, you could just have different names for the z39.50 endpoints, instead of different ports
07:06 cait no she certainly doesn't
07:07 matts hi !
07:07 eythian magnuse: firewalling would be an issue there
07:07 mtompset Well, I don't expect you to know everything. Perhaps you know how to change the DB you tell people to access for your own z39.50 server?
07:08 cait evening eythian
07:08 eythian mtompset: I suspect it would be difficult, as I think it maps to the directory that zebra puts its stuff into
07:08 cait mtompset: nope
07:08 eythian (disclaimer: I've not tried, and don't know that area very well)
07:08 eythian cait: hiya
07:08 cait what magnuse said, perhaps somewhere in the config files, but changing them I would not recommend I think
07:08 eythian I'm just about to leave, so good night :)
07:08 cait good night
07:09 mtompset good night, eythian.
07:14 magnuse have fun eythian
07:15 magnuse i think i tried figuring out how to change the name a long time ago, but i gave up
07:21 magnuse ...not that that should discourage anyone else from trying to figure it out, of course :-)
07:22 cait hi dr
07:22 cait hi druthb
07:22 cait :)
07:22 magnuse hiya druthb
07:22 magnuse dr druthb :-)
07:22 druthb Hi.
07:26 magnuse @wunder boo
07:26 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on October 01, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady).
07:26 druthb @wunder 66046
07:26 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 14.1°C (2:23 AM CDT on October 01, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
07:32 drojf good morning #koha
07:33 francharb hello
07:33 wahanui niihau, francharb
07:33 drojf hey francharb
07:33 wahanui francharb falls asleep easily at sea. Don't believe me? Just ask Brooke.
07:34 * druthb giggles
07:38 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
07:38 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 10.1°C (9:13 AM CEST on October 01, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
07:38 drojf meh
07:39 magnuse slides?
07:39 wahanui kf should be writing slides
07:39 drojf lol. kf is writing slides for the rest of her life
07:40 drojf she should be writing norwegian slides ;)
07:44 * mtompset grumbles about having to choose a component on the bug report.
07:48 cait it certainly feels like it
07:48 cait but rigt now she is trying to get an appointment at her old dentist
07:48 cait *growl*
07:52 mtompset old as in age, or old as in previous? And if the latter, why not the new one?
07:55 drojf it seems like the new one is scary, made her run away
08:08 paul_p good morning #koha
08:11 drojf bonjour paul_p
08:12 magnuse kia ora paul_p!
08:17 drojf cait: 56k modem connection? go offline to call the dentist? :P
08:20 mtompset Bonjour, paul_p. :)
08:26 mtompset drojf: maybe she has one of those dsl lines that cuts out when a phone call is received or made? :)
08:31 drojf mtompset: looking a the company she is using that is quite possible ;)
08:32 drojf "looking at" even
08:40 drojf ping cait
08:52 cait1 yes?
09:01 WaqarAzeem hi! can i disable the 'Cart' and 'Lists' from the header of opac.
09:03 mtompset You can use javascript to hide them, so effectively yes.
09:03 drojf WaqarAzeem: yes
09:03 drojf you can disable the features too
09:04 mtompset I didn't know about the syspref. :)
09:04 drojf in the staff client, use search system preferences and search for "cart" and "list", the options should pop up there
09:04 WaqarAzeem good idea.
09:04 mtompset Are they still visible when you disable them, drojf? do you know?
09:05 cait1 no they are hidden
09:05 drojf mtompset: i'm pretty sure they are not
09:05 cait1 hi jcamins
09:05 jcamins What would be the point of displaying disabled functionality?
09:05 cait1 awake early again?
09:05 jcamins Morning.
09:05 wahanui morning is, like, a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast
09:05 drojf jcamins: bad coding ;)
09:05 jcamins Shari had a 6am call.
09:05 drojf and good morning
09:08 mtompset To let you know that you can't do something that the program can do. ;)
09:08 mtompset To taunt you mercilessly. ;)
09:09 magnuse lol
09:09 drojf heh
09:09 jcamins Isn't it a bit late for cait?
09:11 mtompset It's only 5PM in the Philippines... So it is earlier in Germany, right?
09:11 drojf it's 11am
09:11 jcamins Elevenish?
09:11 mtompset You both owe me a coke. :P
09:12 jcamins So, yes. Unusually late for cait. Norway trip? :)
09:12 magnuse not yet
09:13 cait1 cait is on vacation today
09:13 jcamins Lucky cait!
09:13 cait1 and needs distraction
09:14 mtompset Not much of a vacation phoning dentists.
09:14 drojf i would like an irc client that shows the timestamps according to local time of each person. that would look amazing(ly confusing)
09:14 jcamins drojf: hehe. Yes, very confusing.
09:14 mtompset Actually...
09:14 wahanui actually are you going to be the system administrator for this system?
09:14 mtompset wahanui: forget actually
09:14 wahanui mtompset: I forgot actually
09:14 WaqarAzeem Cart is disable by 'opacbookbag'
09:15 mtompset You could put the local time on the left and the users time on the right (or vice versa using a configuration option)
09:15 mtompset That wouldn't be too confusing then.
09:16 drojf mtompset: i think its more fun to only have the user's time. and then sort the logs by timestamp to drive people readings them nuts
09:17 mtompset That idea is mean and crazy.
09:17 WaqarAzeem and virtualshelves hide the List option
09:17 drojf we could do that on first of april ;)
09:17 jcamins drojf: if you used irssi you could write a script to do that.
09:18 rangi !jenkins build Koha_master
09:18 jenkins_koha rangi: job Koha_master build scheduled with a quiet period of 5 seconds
09:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #859 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #856 2 days 23 hr ago)
09:23 rangi jcamins: i think the patch for 8846 isn't quite enough, need to mock config
09:23 rangi not preference
09:23 rangi or both
09:23 jcamins rangi: config doesn't get called.
09:24 jcamins Hm, no, I guess config gets called, but the results are summarily disregarded.
09:24 jcamins +$tmplModule->mock('_get_template_file', sub {
09:24 jcamins (etc.)
09:24 rangi gonna have to fix that commit message then :)
09:25 jcamins Fixing the test is just a side-effect.
09:25 jcamins There was so much database access going on that I gave up and mocked the entire routine. Apparently that was a good idea. ;)
09:27 jcamins We get a bunch of warnings without mocking config, though...
09:30 jcamins Okay, new patch, now with updated commit message and fewer warnings.
09:34 rangi sweet thanks
09:41 mtompset Finally, get back to bug 8777 today.
09:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8777 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Quiet errors in circulation.pl
09:47 * rangi goes to bed
09:48 cait1 good night rangi
09:54 mtompset fewer warnings on the 'make test'?
09:54 mtompset All those warnings freak me out a little.
09:54 jcamins mtompset: I've noticed.
09:56 mtompset sometimes they are valid though (missing Test::MockModule and DBD::Mock)
09:56 jcamins Yes. In those cases where they are not just warnings, they should be dealt with.
09:58 mtompset It was hard to notice the legit error in the midst of the noise.
10:00 jcamins In that case, it would probably be more productive to focus on those warnings than warnings in a page that is rarely used (the framework editor).
10:16 mtompset It's being used now by my librarian colleagues.
10:16 mtompset That's why I fixed it. :P
10:19 mtompset I have a backlog of fixes that need to get back into Koha.
10:26 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
10:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #859: FIXED in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/859/
10:28 drojf master++
10:33 magnuse w00t!
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10:46 magnuse wow, big news from biblibre: http://drupal.biblibre.com/en/blog/entry/biblibre-takes-another-next-step
10:46 * cait1 reads
10:56 drojf ah, not bought by ptfs *relieved*
10:57 magnuse lol
10:58 magnuse i'll miss hdl, though...
10:58 jcamins drojf: hehe.
11:08 mtompset drojf?
11:08 wahanui drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi!
11:09 mtompset Did you fix your git woes, drojf?
11:09 mtompset ptfs?
11:10 mtompset -- Strange... it was a vulgarity before.
11:10 mtompset I guess someone cleaned up wahanui's vocabulary. ;)
11:17 drojf it was kind of below our standards to be fair
11:17 cait1 yeah agreed
11:18 drojf fixed git in so far that i have a virtual machine that i can use to work with it. not fixed the old git, but i think it's not worth the trouble
11:20 cait1 @wunder oslo
11:20 huginn cait1: Error: No such location could be found.
11:20 cait1 @wunder oslo, norway
11:20 huginn cait1: The current temperature in Harestua, Harestua, Norway is 12.7°C (1:16 PM CEST on October 01, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
11:26 magnuse harestua? that's far into the woods. weird!
11:26 magnuse @wunder osl
11:26 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Oslo Airport, Norway is 13.0°C (12:47 PM CEST on October 01, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
11:27 jcamins magnuse: apparently Norway is suffering from the opposite problem from much of Europe. Instead of urbanizing, it is ruralizing. :)
11:27 magnuse hehe, i wish
11:27 jcamins Even Oslo is deep in the woods now.
11:28 magnuse yeah, guess it is
11:28 magnuse i think the geographical centre of oslo is somewhere in the woods, actually
11:37 magnuse no more excuses - off to write contracts!
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12:30 mtompset Oooo... as a result of jcamins' prodding... I found a bug in a package.
12:31 jcamins Oh?
12:31 mtompset ValueBuilder.pm has 3 packages in it.
12:31 mtompset The second one is missing 1;
12:32 jcamins Does that have any practical ramifications?
12:32 mtompset Well, I don't usually put 3 packages into a file, so I am not sure.
12:33 mtompset Other than generating an error in the tests?
12:33 mtompset It may try to defined the 3rd package as a sub-package?
12:33 mtompset I'm not sure... I'm guessing wildly.
12:33 jcamins So the impact of that mistake is that there is a warning during make test?
12:34 mtompset Yes.
12:34 jcamins Okay.
12:34 jcamins You should patch it, then.
12:34 mtompset I will... I'm slowly going through the make test warnings.
12:36 tcohen hi mtompset
12:36 tcohen morning #koha
12:36 mtompset greetings, tcohen.
12:37 mtompset I see you got the patch up and ready for signoff on bug 8840. :)
12:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8840 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , ubuntu-pkg-check.sh fix and extend functionality
12:37 tcohen yes, found a bug I fixed too
12:37 tcohen i think is ready right now
12:40 tcohen yeah, it needs sign-off ;)
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12:45 drojf is there a 10/2012 bug in ex libris aleph? my university account lost all information about the books i have borrowed
12:46 koyauni who is responsible for the mailing please?
12:46 mtompset drojf: So you don't have to return them? ;)
12:46 drojf the mailing of what? do you mean mailing lists?
12:47 drojf mtompset: i would go so far as to say i cannot, atm :D
12:47 koyauni koha mailing list where we share stuff and get replies
12:47 tcohen what do u need koyauni?
12:48 mtompset Why are you looking for you?
12:48 jcamins drojf: you can always return books. They'll just not have been checked out.
12:48 mtompset for who?
12:48 mtompset mailing lists?
12:48 wahanui mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
12:48 drojf jcamins: i'm trying to find out at the moment it they are listed as checked out. and i am not sure what the returns machine will do. it would work at the counter of course, but they do not allow that anymore
12:49 jcamins drojf: there's a machine that does something different than checking in books?
12:49 jcamins I've used Aleph, and when you check in a book that isn't checked out, it just gets routed to shelving.
12:50 drojf no the machine only does returns AFAIK. but you could drop off the books at a human being at the counter too up until a while ago. sorry if i worded that badly
12:51 jcamins drojf: right, but the machine presumably checks in books, then routes them for shelving, right?
12:52 nengard hello all
12:53 nengard Working on the manual some more today and have a question about Bug 8597 ? is it as simple as setting the preferences? or do you have to make any other changes on the server that I need to document?
12:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view
12:53 jcamins nengard: you need to set opaccolorstylesheet to colors.css and switch the theme to ccsr.
12:54 drojf jcamins: ah yes, i suppose so. judging from the completely empty holdings information it may also be a that they use even more information from different servers and something is blocked in my browser… or their system is completely broken
12:54 jcamins Hehe. That's what you get for disallowing google analytics!
12:55 jcamins No call numbers for you!
12:55 nengard jcamins sounds nice and easy!
12:55 mtompset Google analytics is evil and invasive! :P
12:55 jcamins nengard: very easy. By default, opaccolorsheet is already set to colors.css.
12:56 koyauni sorry I was cut off,
12:56 koyauni the admin for koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
12:56 nengard Now I need to get an app for my phone to take a screenshot :)
12:56 jcamins koyauni: why do you need the administrator for that list?
12:57 jcamins nengard: you know you can resize the browser to very small and it will switch to the mobile view automatically?
12:57 koyauni so we can set up a new google group service we can can have all 12 years mailing list imported to it,
12:57 koyauni with new forum interface
12:57 drojf to misquote mtompset: "google is evil and invasive!"
12:58 koyauni :(
12:58 jcamins koyauni: why? You're much better off using the existing interfaces.
12:58 mtompset No, I'd say that too. :P
12:58 jcamins I don't think any of the developers would use a Google group.
12:58 koyauni it is hard to find things,
12:58 koyauni a forum can serve better and we sitll can us the list,
12:59 jcamins koyauni: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Koha-general-f3047918.html
12:59 koyauni not all the members of the list are programmer and developer
12:59 mtompset koyauni: Frankly, google indexes the current forums well enough... site:<which ever one you want>
13:00 koyauni this will bring Koha to be shard to average users as well
13:01 koyauni so google serve Koha somehow, :)
13:01 jcamins koyauni: my point was there wouldn't be anyone to answer questions.
13:01 jcamins If you use the nabble interface, it looks like a forum, and your question goes to everyone.
13:01 koyauni I do not know why should be so hard to get this done, so the list will remain for programmers and Forum will be better for normal users to share things they learn about Koha
13:01 mtompset Nabble has search capability.
13:01 koyauni no, need, not all Forum has experts,
13:01 koyauni many new comers can share their experience,
13:01 jcamins mailing lists?
13:01 wahanui mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
13:02 koyauni you still will be able to use the mailing list
13:02 mtompset koyauni: Your enthusiam is great, but the idea has been hashed and rehashed before.
13:02 jcamins If you follow the link to the general mailing list, you'll see that it gives the administrators at the bottom: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
13:02 koyauni does it harm to import the 12 year mailing list to google forum
13:02 jcamins I have no objection to someone setting up a Google group, as long as it's made clear that the best way to get support is the mailing lists.
13:03 koyauni this is easy https://groups.google.com/forum/#!overview
13:04 koyauni and we can share, even your reply via mailing list will be added directly to the forum
13:04 mtompset koyauni: We already suffer from people setting up their own unofficial guides. Do we really need to extend it to websites and forums too?
13:04 koyauni yes we can do that
13:04 mtompset koyauni: But the nabble interface is sufficient.
13:04 jcamins koyauni: oh, you're thinking about setting it up to be just like nabble? I'm not entirely sure why we need that, but that's better than a separate forum.
13:05 mtompset no, koyauni is thinking like phpbb.
13:05 koyauni I did a PHPBB forum but there we can not import the old data, in google forum we can
13:05 koyauni so I will delete that phpBB, as it will not serve us
13:07 koyauni this one has no pain but we need the admin to do it who has access to mailing list to allow the import then it will go smoothly, I can help run it after that
13:08 mtompset koyauni: I don't think you'll find an admin that will go for the idea, but I could be wrong.
13:10 drojf i'm not sure if importing all that to google does not imply some legal stuff. i have subscribed to a mailing list that had nothing to do with google, i may not want my mails to appear as a contribution to a google group
13:11 koyauni you mean Koha google group,
13:20 koyauni one technical question, we want to follow LoC system for recording Arabic books, and they have field 880 with subfield 6, our Koha miss this sub 6,
13:20 koyauni how do we get that?
13:20 koyauni is this something we do here
13:20 koyauni http://library.software.coop:8080/cgi-bin/koha/admin/auth_subfields_structure.pl?op=add_form&tagfield=880&authtypecode=GENRE%2FFORM
13:21 jcamins koyauni: you need to set that in the MARC frameworks.
13:21 mtompset Seee... people use it, jcamins. :P
13:21 jcamins That link is to the authority type configuration.
13:21 mtompset Seeeeeeee! People use it. :P
13:21 jcamins mtompset: *Once*.
13:22 mtompset You aren't thinking about all the newbies that come on.
13:22 mtompset There's potentially 7 billion people to set up their own libraries. ;)
13:23 mtompset Okay, that's dreaming too big, but still. :)
13:23 koyauni so I need to add new farmwork
13:23 jcamins koyauni: no, you just need to make the subfield 6 visible.
13:24 koyauni Guys, this is a a min test, setup the group, if it does not work, delete the group, but is it serve everyone then we have doen something google, so simpele
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13:25 koyauni do you mean in here http://library.software.coop:8080/cgi-bin/koha/admin/auth_subfields_structure.pl?op=add_form&tagfield=880&authtypecode=GENRE%2FFORM
13:27 drojf wow that has a fancy "show all" instead of those numbers i forget the meaning of every time
13:28 jcamins koyauni: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/catadmin.html#marcbibframeworks
13:28 drojf ah well it's still auhorities. are there less options? but that would be fancy for biblios too
13:28 koyauni my subfiled 6 say "Show all" bust still we can not see it
13:29 jcamins koyauni: you need to set "hidden" to 0.
13:32 koyauni ok
13:39 koyauni how to you make 880 to appear :(
13:39 * wizzyrea waves
13:40 drojf koyauni: if it says "show all" then you are working on the wrong kind of framework
13:40 drojf hi wizzyrea
13:40 jcamins koyauni: you need to set "hidden" to 0 in the MARC bibliographic frameworks you use. I sent you a link to the manual page on that.
13:46 koyauni can we just import BKS from LoC and use that
13:46 jcamins koyauni: I don't understand your question.
13:47 jcamins If you don't want to edit records that you download via Z39.50, you don't have to.
13:47 koyauni in here on 4.1.5.2 http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/catadmin.html#marcbibframeworks
13:48 koyauni I mean import a framwork
13:48 jcamins Ah.
13:48 jcamins The Library of Congress doesn't use Koha.
13:48 jcamins So, no.
13:50 koyauni but they use MARC
13:51 koyauni and the same framwork
13:51 jcamins koyauni: no, MARC frameworks are specific to Koha.
13:53 koyauni ok, thanks!
13:54 drojf koyauni: the MARC frameworks in koha represent what the LOC describes, so that you can use these specifics in your koha system and tweak them to your needs. but you have to tweak them in koha. you could only import a framework from another koha library
13:54 drojf (or, your own backups once you have saved some)
13:55 * drojf walks off to the library
13:56 koyauni now I get that!
13:58 koyauni We have many Arabic title and they are not indexed, someone told me that we need to enable ICU for Zebra for non Latin scripts, he said before I do that I need to backup my system, what does he mean by that? What to back up, and how?
13:59 koyauni this is the guide http://www.scribd.com/doc/45190333/ICU-Support-in-Zebra
14:01 koyauni I think in next Koha this need to become default function of common package as in library of this world you will have non Latin records anyway.
14:02 slef koyauni: back up the mysql database used by koha and the koha*conf* files for your system. How you do that depends on your system: backup policies are beyond the scope of Koha.
14:04 koyauni sorry, sut off, well we use Debian 6+ on dedicated server using Plesk 11+, but Koha Db was created out side Plesk and I can not see it on my CP,
14:05 jcamins koyauni: `sudo koha-dump library` (or whatever you named your Koha instance)
14:08 koyauni does this mean that it has dumped the configs as well
14:08 koyauni root@koyauniversity ~ # sudo koha-dump library Dumping Koha site library: * DB to /var/spool/koha/library/library-2012-10-01.sql.gz * configs, logs to /var/spool/koha/library/library-2012-10-01.tar.gz Done.
14:08 jcamins Yes.
14:08 jcamins You now have a backup in /var/spool/koha/library
14:09 koyauni so I should dare to do the ICU now, GOD help me! :)
14:14 koyauni thanks you guys, see u
14:14 tcohen does anyone remember there was some problem with 008 in marc21?
14:14 tcohen just asking prior to searching in bz
14:14 jcamins tcohen: what kind of problem?
14:15 tcohen after changing the values and clicking accept, everything seems ok
14:15 tcohen but when editing again its all back to default
14:15 jcamins Hm. Never seen that.
14:15 tcohen at least that's what my users told me
14:15 tcohen currently on 3.8.5
14:16 * nengard is reporting more bugs than she is writing manual updates ?
14:24 SJeffery I almost hate to ask, but is there a way to reset the auto-increment value for auto barcodes?
14:24 jcamins SJeffery: there is not.
14:25 libsysguy you'd have to truncate the table
14:25 libsysguy but that'd delete all the data
14:26 libsysguy and would completely hose all the fk's
14:26 libsysguy :)
14:28 SJeffery *facepalm* just does not seem sufficient when working with Koha.
14:30 * mtompset jokes, "tcohen, check if demo is defined in the koha-conf.xml file."
14:30 jcamins SJeffery: what is your goal, exactly?
14:31 libsysguy first question?
14:31 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
14:36 SJeffery jcamins: We use a specific set of barcode ranges for different purposes. Someone must have entered one at some point (probably me as a test) that far exceeeds any of those ranges.
14:36 jcamins What do the barcodes look like?
14:36 SJeffery grr, meeting. back in a bit
14:36 mtompset Oops... that's why a test system is so important!
14:36 mtompset fk's? What do you mean fk's, libsysguy?
14:36 jcamins Foreign keys.
14:36 libsysguy foreign keys
14:44 tcohen mtompset, i was away, didn't get the joke
14:45 mtompset There seems to be a user 'demo' with password 'demo' coded into the system, and if you set a value demo=1 in the koha-conf.xml file, supposedly it does things like not write data.
14:45 mtompset At least in the marc tag structure code I was reading/fixing.
14:45 * jcamins did not know that.
14:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Holidays Test Plan - DB Dependent <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eba713b5839c4ee377923deecca97837edd7f404> / bug 8110 - add branchcode MPL to sample holidays to facilitate automated testing. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f7af37233a12df9f48bec9864fd3ababa00c8094> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8209' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k
14:57 mtompset I don't think anyone except a select few do, jcamins. It's not documented.
14:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #860 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
14:59 mtompset jcamins: My initial gut feeling of a missing 1; was wrong... it's a scoping issue. multiple packages all with a $DEBUG variables using 'my' in the same file are going to overlap, because perl scopes $DEBUG to the file level. I'm wondering if 'local' or 'our' is better.
14:59 jcamins mtompset: our
14:59 jcamins It's Plack-friendly.
15:00 mtompset Okay. our it is.
15:06 jcamins SJeffery: if the item with the abnormally high barcode has been deleted, your system administrator may be able to reset it in the database by running "ANALYZE TABLE items;"
15:09 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @nengard: "looking for a way to take a screenshot on my Droid Razr Maxx w/out rooting or paying (cause I only need one screenshot for #kohails manual)"
15:09 wizzyrea take a picture
15:09 mtompset my (@blah) = m/magic/x if $_; -- @blah is still defined, right?
15:10 mtompset (if $_ is undef)
15:10 jcamins No.
15:10 mtompset I mean DECLARED.
15:10 mtompset not defined.
15:10 jcamins Oh.
15:11 mtompset Sorry, I was unclear.
15:11 jcamins I think so, but don't use a construct like that.
15:11 jcamins Declare it in one line then set it in another.
15:11 nengard wizzyrea - if I have to I will
15:11 nengard it won't be as clear as a screenshot though
15:33 mtompset Well, going offline for a few hours. Sleep is vital.
15:34 mtompset Have a good day (24 hour period) everyone!
15:49 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @jsicot: "sru+ilsdi, je pense que ça va le faire ! #kohamobile #kohails http://t.co/116sGj5H"
15:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7642 follow-up fix POD <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0fb3dda69fab38ebc7c7b6ac8f88300a4c4ccf00> / Bug 7642 - fix the lost display of tag sizes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=79e0fb6fd600b6693c458d92cdb661e2b15d5ab0> / Bug 3387 follow-up: fix perlcritic error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f58a6f4e107900618fd313405bf0999
16:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #860: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/860/
16:06 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8581: don't display parentheses when we don't have a type
16:06 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8209 follow-up: another correction for BuildSummary API
16:06 jenkins_koha * wizzyrea: bug 8110 - add branchcode MPL to sample holidays to facilitate automated testing.
16:06 jenkins_koha * kyle: Holidays Test Plan - DB Dependent
16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8581 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority display doesn't like GND records
16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8209 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities
16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8110 normal, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add tests for Calendar modules
16:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #861 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #859 6 hr 48 min ago)
16:24 reiveune bye
16:26 gaetan_B bye
16:52 cait hello #koha
16:58 cait hm now I scared drojf away
17:10 cait wb drojf :)
17:10 drojf hi cait :) feeling better?
17:11 cait tos
17:11 cait tons
17:11 cait only the typing is still bad :)
17:13 drojf ding ding ding ding ding! MULTICAIT! *makes pinball machine sounds*
17:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #861: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/861/
17:14 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 3387 - WITHDRAWN items shouldn't check in
17:14 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 3387 follow-up DBRev number
17:14 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 3387 follow-up: fix perlcritic error
17:14 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 7642 - fix the lost display of tag sizes
17:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3387 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , WITHDRAWN items shouldn't check in
17:14 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7642 follow-up fix POD
17:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7642 minor, P5 - low, ---, stacey, Pushed to Master , The number that appears when hovering over a tag in the tag cloud isn't the number of items with that tag
17:14 jcamins So I guess now we have to fix the functionality that's broken so that test starts passing.
17:14 cait1 lol
17:15 jcamins khall++ # for tests that demonstrate a problem
17:19 cait1 t
17:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #862 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #859 8 hr 9 min ago)
17:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8818: make sure we load modules before using them <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=813c74400803a5ec26497d9a809cf874d2c200fd> / Bug 5335 follow-up: fixing Perl error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=882f4146441f8d0a447a63e4faecf755e33e6c90> / Bug_7913-Follow-up, hide button for subs with items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=
17:33 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Creating Routing Lists in Koha 3.4 http://t.co/tAdMji5p"
18:13 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @jsicot: "Enfin ! facettes "Types de doc" gérer sur #kohails en mode Zebra et Unimarc. merci @27point7 pour la piste. http://t.co/bAc2vuAW"
18:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #862: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/862/
18:35 jenkins_koha * koha: Receiving serials in a loop
18:35 jenkins_koha * preprod: Bug_7913-Follow-up, hide button for subs with items
18:35 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 5335 follow-up: fixing Perl error
18:35 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8818: make sure we load modules before using them
18:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5335 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , More granular VAT
18:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8818 blocker, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Authority linker error on Z cataloging
18:41 rangi Morning
18:41 wahanui i heard Morning was a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
18:41 cait morning rangi
18:41 trea kia ora
18:43 rangi @wunder nzwn
18:43 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 02, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising).
18:43 rangi Not nice weather today
18:46 rangi Hmm unhappy Jenkins again
18:46 jcamins rangi: I think these are legitimate failures.
18:48 rangi Ahh regressions?
18:49 rangi I'll look when I'm at work
18:50 cait1 wifi_in_this_household--
18:50 jcamins rangi: from 3.8. These are the calendar tests that don't work.
18:52 cait1 it keeps kicking me out
18:52 cait1 and windows doesn't like my sim card
18:52 cait1 gr.
18:54 cait1 hm
18:54 cait1 lots of the demo links are broken
18:54 jcamins What demo links?
18:57 cait1 on the website
18:57 cait1 demos?
18:57 cait1 demo?
18:57 wahanui demo is at http://koha-community.org/demo/ or http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Demo_Databases
18:59 jcamins gmcharlt: MySQL is not running on ESI's Koha demo.
18:59 SJeffery the demo version info is also out of date
18:59 SJeffery (at least on the first one IIRC)
19:04 gmcharlt jcamins: thanks
19:18 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @27point7: "@jsicot comprends pas pourquoi personne n'a fait un dev pour pouvoir personnaliser les facettes avec un fichier xml... #kohails"
19:34 rangi http://koha-community.org/support/forums/
19:35 rangi forums are http://koha-community.org/support/forums/
19:35 rangi forums?
19:35 wahanui forums are http://koha-community.org/support/forums/
19:35 rangi for next time koyauni comes in
19:35 rangi just keep pasting that again and again and again
19:35 rangi we have 6 .. we dont need 7
19:35 cait1 ok
19:35 jcamins rangi: I object! The data isn't owned by Google!
19:36 jcamins Hm. Need to find someone with write access to that page to add an additional link to WebOrange.
19:37 cait ?
19:37 jcamins It doesn't link to all the lists.
19:37 jcamins The main list is on lists.katipo.co.nz.
19:38 rangi whats the link you want added?
19:38 rangi i can add it
19:38 jcamins http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/project/lists.katipo.co.nz
19:38 jcamins Thanks.
19:39 * jcamins had never seen that interface before.
19:39 cait hmm
19:40 cait does that load for others?
19:40 cait [off] http://www.librarytechnology.org/map.pl?ILS=Koha
19:40 libsysguy it does for me
19:40 libsysguy oh
19:40 rangi jcamins: done
19:41 rangi cait: yes
19:41 rangi very very slowly
19:41 cait hmm now it came up... of course... thx for testing :)
19:42 cait hm 700 more koha libraries listed in lib-web-cats now than 2.5 years ago
19:42 cait just a fun fact - we know it's not all libaries
19:43 rangi yep
19:43 cait but still nice to see that number growing :)
19:43 rangi that map is only the ones with coordinates in it too
19:43 cait yeah
19:43 jcamins cait: mtj was doing a OpenStreetmaps-based map of Koha libraries.
19:43 cait but I can't draw one myself :)
19:43 cait jcamins: do you have a link?
19:43 rangi how many when you did an advanced search?
19:44 cait 1640 for today
19:44 jcamins cait: I do not. Ask mtj.
19:44 cait mtj mtj mtj
19:44 * cait tries the beetlejuice trick
19:44 mtj heya
19:44 kathryn morning all :)
19:45 cait morning kathryn :)
19:46 mtj i emailed jamie at weborange to correct that, just last week :)
19:47 cait hi mtj :)
19:47 cait I heard you did a nice map of koha libraries? :)
19:47 rangi cool mtj
19:51 mtj i didnt know the koha-general list was working on weborange
19:51 jcamins mtj: yeah, but the link wasn't there.
19:51 mtj … looks like it just needs to be 'added' to the lists.kc.org homepage
19:52 mtj ie: that one -> http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/project/lists.koha-community.org/
19:52 SJeffery IMO, it is kindof impressive how many special libraries are using it now
19:52 SJeffery (since they in general do not have the technical resources that other libraries have)
19:52 mtj cait, yes re: koha openmaps
19:56 mtj i started it many months ago… now planning to finish it, in 1-2 weeks :)
19:57 cait aaah nice :)
19:57 mtj but my data is now out of date too - i will refresh that, after go-live
20:00 rangi jcamins: yep you are right those holiday ones are legitimate
20:00 rangi ill fix the syspref one
20:04 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now
20:04 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now
20:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #863 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #859 10 hr ago)
20:10 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/860/
20:10 rangi ill look into this now
20:12 rangi fixed
20:12 rangi the db didnt have the sample holidays loaded
20:12 rangi should be back to all tests passing now
20:13 cait rangi++
20:13 jcamins rangi++
20:25 rangi jcamins: bug 8581 is a candidate for 3.8.x eh?
20:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8581 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority display doesn't like GND records
20:25 jcamins Yes please!
20:26 jcamins It's nice and safe, and protects cait's displays against unseemly extra parentheses.
20:26 rangi cool
20:27 jcamins And the rest of us will never notice, not having totally insane authority records.
20:27 rangi hmm
20:27 cait :P
20:27 jcamins @quote get 123
20:27 huginn jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
20:27 pastebot "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "<<<<<<< HEAD [% CASE %]([% typ" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/203
20:28 rangi i think needs to be rebased for 3.8.x
20:28 rangi or its sneaking in the see also stuffs too
20:29 SJeffery Someone mentioned insane authority records? You must be talking about us!
20:30 jcamins rangi: oh, yeah, good point.
20:31 cait SJeffery: this time not :)
20:31 cait only all germany
20:31 SJeffery How are those insane?
20:32 jcamins I will rebase against 3.8.x.
20:32 rangi thanks
20:33 jcamins SJeffery: how are they not?
20:33 * jcamins will find an example.
20:34 jcamins Hm.
20:34 cait SJeffery: using lots of 9 something fields
20:34 jcamins I'm having some trouble finding a single example.
20:35 SJeffery I view this as a challenge...that I must find some way to once again make ours the worst there are
20:35 jcamins And the 5xx fields are rather wacky. They add a lot of interesting coding.
20:38 rangi hmm some more enhancements pushed to master ??!??
20:38 jcamins Awww. All of cait's libraries have the crazy subfields removed from their authorities.
20:38 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_activity.cgi?id=7913
20:38 rangi isnt that 9 days PAST the freeze?
20:38 jcamins Yes.
20:38 rangi wtf
20:39 cait hm
20:39 rangi oh bug 3387 too
20:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3387 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , WITHDRAWN items shouldn't check in
20:39 cait which was our first time based release?
20:39 rangi 3.4
20:39 cait jcamins: all of our libraries still have a mix of old and new authorities
20:39 cait we still have to reload
20:40 rangi did i miss something? did we cancel the feature freeze?
20:40 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_activity.cgi?id=3387 <-- that passed 10 days after the freeze
20:41 cait rangi: thx (3.4)
20:41 cait I think paul didn#t think of it as a new feature
20:41 rangi both of them?
20:41 jcamins cait: and I hear the RM presumptive for 3.12 is a martinet.
20:41 cait or maybe because it was being debated for a while
20:41 cait martinet?
20:41 jcamins cait: very strict.
20:42 rangi maybe you could get away with 3387 not being a feature
20:42 rangi but bug 7913
20:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7913 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Automatically receive serial issues
20:42 rangi there is no way that isnt a feature
20:42 cait not my features
20:42 cait and I would still like to see allowonshelfholds on circulation matrix go in...
20:42 cait it's currently blocked with a problem paul found that srdjan says does not exist
20:42 cait *sigh*
20:44 rangi well, my feeling is that its probably too late now, i mean 10 days past freeze .. theres not much point having one, if it isnt a freeze
20:44 cait :(
20:44 rangi we could just call it
20:44 cait it already missed so mny releases
20:44 rangi a slight chill in the air
20:44 rangi cait: thats not a good reason
20:44 cait I know
20:44 cait but it's frustrating
20:45 cait especially because it went through qa on time
20:45 YoungPublicLibrarian Anyone have time to help me with a report? (Yet again...)
20:46 rangi cait: id rather the frustration, than pushing features after the freeze, and it's catalyst work so i feel that frustration
20:46 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: if it's the same report, I don't have any new ideas, so can't help. If it's a different one, I'll try.
20:46 YoungPublicLibrarian different one. posting it now
20:47 pastebot "YoungPublicLibrarian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Circ Charges" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/204
20:48 jcamins That looks -- from a quick glance -- like it should work.
20:48 jcamins Wait, no.
20:48 jcamins s.type is not part of the group clause.
20:48 YoungPublicLibrarian I'm trying to mash features from two different reports together...and I think I did something wrong...
20:49 jcamins Yes. Tell me in words what you want.
20:52 YoungPublicLibrarian I want the report to give me the collection code (such as 000-099, YA Fiction, etc...), the charge type (such as renewal or Charge), and the number of charges
20:53 jcamins The only two types of activities you're tracking are renewals and issues.
20:53 jcamins Change the GROUP BY line to "GROUP BY authorised_values.lib, s.type"
20:53 wahanui jcamins: that doesn't look right
20:53 jcamins Sorry, wahanui.
20:53 wahanui jcamins: i'm not following you...
20:56 cait rangi: do you still happen to have the mobile interface somewhere?
20:56 cait or does someone have a screenshot for me I could use?
20:56 rangi i can have
20:56 rangi 2 secs
20:56 rangi http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/
20:58 cait thx :) rangi++
20:59 YoungPublicLibrarian brb...sorry got busy
21:03 cait jcamins: do you happen to have a screenshot of both plugins working? :)
21:03 jcamins cait: no, you'd need a very particular set of data to get suggestions from both.
21:03 jcamins I will see if I can think of an example.
21:03 jcamins (that will pull up suggestions from both on my data)
21:04 cait thx
21:04 jcamins I need to think of key words that will only pull up *two* authorities.
21:05 jcamins You know what's awesome?
21:05 jcamins Drag-and-drop configuration reordering.
21:07 cait hehe
21:07 cait yes
21:07 cait yes it is
21:07 cait did this make it in?
21:08 cait I am featuring a lot of your developments in my presentaton as highlights for 3.10
21:08 cait I notice
21:08 cait the authorities work
21:09 jcamins cait: http://screencast.com/t/YLsLi1XU
21:09 jcamins cait: it did.
21:09 jcamins And it is beautiful, if I say so myself.
21:14 SJeffery When autobarcode is enabled and the staff member clicks add and duplicate it duplicates the old barcode along with the other fields. When autobarcode is NOT used it does NOT duplicate the barcode along with the other fields. Is this a bug or a feature (I have learned to ask this!)?
21:14 cait ok
21:14 cait I got the mobile theme
21:14 cait and the authorities work
21:14 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
21:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #863: FIXED in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/863/
21:14 cait I need a third big highlight of 3.10 for my sneak peak :)
21:14 jcamins SJeffery: that is a very good question.
21:15 cait rangi++ for fixing jenkins and jcamins++ for the screenshot :)
21:15 SJeffery cait: Do the authorities a second time because it is so awesome:)
21:16 jcamins cait: lemme see what the old release notes generator says.
21:16 cait jcamins: thx!!
21:17 YoungPublicLibrarian Whew...that was a bit of a rush. Jcamins: Your idea did not work...
21:17 jcamins It says "oh my, that's a lot of bugs."
21:18 jcamins Quote-of-the-day?
21:18 jcamins Ooh!
21:18 jcamins Database export!
21:18 rangi reports?
21:18 wahanui reports are done by each library, and you can configure it
21:18 rangi the reports json thingy?
21:18 jcamins Yes!
21:18 jcamins Reports!
21:18 wahanui reports are done by each library, and you can configure it
21:18 jcamins :D
21:19 mtj slighty off-topic, but... i dont have a problem with koyauni's idea to set up a google-group for koha
21:19 YoungPublicLibrarian I'll post what the report is now...
21:19 jcamins mtj: as long as it's interfaced to the mailing list, because the chance of me following something additional is... nil.
21:19 mtj … i just just hope he doesn't expect everyone to switch to it, after hes set it up
21:19 eythian mtj: though, you end up splitting the people. I'd never follow a forum, I've tried and I always forget.
21:19 cait hm the json thingy is really really cool but a bit hard to ban on a screenshot
21:20 jcamins cait: oh yeah?
21:20 pastebot "YoungPublicLibrarian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Circ Charges" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/205
21:20 jcamins Where's my super awesome screenshot of report JSON?
21:20 cait good queston - where is it? :)
21:20 jcamins Looking.
21:20 rambutan is there a script running on #koha to disconnect idle users?
21:21 jcamins cait: http://www.screencast.com/users/jcamins/folders/Jing/media/06f9c702-968d-49bd-ac53-60998e715f22
21:21 jcamins rambutan: nope.
21:21 cait jcamins: could you paste me the output of the feature list somewhere? :)
21:21 jcamins cait: unfortunately, it's a video not a screenshot.
21:21 cait hm waiting for it to load :)
21:22 mtj but hey… there are currently *many* Koha google-groups - all dead, and filled with spam
21:22 YoungPublicLibrarian So...any other ideas to make that report ^^ work? Thanks!
21:23 mtj many brave travellers have travelled to google-land before koyami, and failed...
21:23 pastebot "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "cait: list of enhancements (warning: long)" (155 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/206
21:23 cait community++ jcamins++ :) thx all for helping me :)
21:24 cait wow
21:24 cait windows is so annyoing
21:24 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: you have an extra ", items i" in your report.
21:24 cait when i try to open that link, I see the list for a second and then it forwards me to a yahoo(???) search
21:25 cait grr
21:26 jcamins cait: switch browsers?
21:26 eythian cait: why are you running windows? Are you still at work?
21:26 cait no, working with powerpoint
21:26 eythian oh. That's your first mistake :)
21:26 cait I know.
21:26 jcamins cait: http://pastebin.com/tx5GzEmX
21:26 cait thx again
21:27 eythian http://nl.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Presentaties <-- that's what I use (I'm sure this is close enough to your moon language to decipher)
21:27 YoungPublicLibrarian looks like that solved it. Thanks so much Jcamins!!! I greatly appreciate it!
21:28 cait eythian: I am not going to learn that tonight :)
21:28 cait jcamins: the video won't load :(
21:28 cait you know if it requires some plugin?
21:28 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: glad I could help.
21:28 cait I never use windows.... so I might be missing one
21:28 jcamins cait: probably it does on Windows.
21:29 jcamins As far as I know it's just HTML5 under real (and other fake-) OSes.
21:29 eythian heh, beamer has a theme called "Berlin", I didn't know that.
21:29 jcamins :P
21:29 eythian actually, I think it's written by a german guy, so the german docs are probably quite good.
21:30 SJeffery jcamins: Bug 5706 - Can you update it given your authority work in 3.10? At a minimum I think #4 is covered by your work.
21:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5706 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Search, create lists and Export authorities from staff interface
21:31 * jcamins uses the javascript presentation thingy that rangi introduced him to.
21:31 jcamins SJeffery: sure thing.
21:31 cait I use the bsz presentation thingy
21:31 cait jcamins: could you check which format your browsers says the video is? right click or something?
21:31 cait If it shows what I think it shows...
21:32 jcamins cait: there's a Flash version.
21:32 cait ok
21:32 cait looking for flash then , thx!
21:35 cait it won't lad and it doesn't give any errors
21:35 cait how totally unhelpful
21:36 jcamins :(
21:36 jcamins rangi: do you have any screenshots of the work the students did?
21:37 rangi nope
21:38 rangi bbiab
21:42 mib_u2nixk How do I generate a report of items that have been removed from our catalog including title, author, ISBN number?
21:43 cait look for the tables deleted_items, deleted_biblios etc.
21:44 mib_u2nixk In the reports section?
21:44 jcamins reports library?
21:44 wahanui reports library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library
21:44 jcamins ^^ you might find a report that already does what you need there.
21:45 mib_u2nixk Okay, thanks!
21:59 cait good night all :)
21:59 eythian bye
22:14 rangi back
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23:06 jenkins_koha robin: Bug 7642 - [3.8.x] fix the lost display of tag sizes
23:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7642 minor, P5 - low, ---, stacey, Pushed to Stable , The number that appears when hovering over a tag in the tag cloud isn't the number of items with that tag
23:07 jenkins_koha Starting build #190 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:20 wajasu ok. i'm availbe to test tonight. any suggested bugs?
23:22 mtj wajasu, http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?list_id=42882&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_severity=trivial&query_based_on=Needs%20Signoff&query_format=advanced&bug_status=Needs%20Signoff&known_name=Needs%20Signoff
23:23 mtj bugs that are 'needs signoff', and are not 'enhancements'
23:24 mtj thats the best place to start, i think
23:44 wajasu ok. 25 non-enhancements
23:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #190: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/190/
23:45 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7642 follow-up fix POD
23:45 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7642: Fixing typo
23:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7642 minor, P5 - low, ---, stacey, Pushed to Stable , The number that appears when hovering over a tag in the tag cloud isn't the number of items with that tag