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23:54 martian523 hi, why can't i find the "Renewals" box when creating an item type?
23:46 tcohen nice weekend #koha
23:00 wajasu thats what its all about
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22:45 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Release notes for 3.8.5
22:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #181: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/181/
22:28 jcamins_away Guess I'd better e-mail fredericd and ask him for a pull request.
22:19 wajasu phenomenal!
22:18 tcohen its really impresive list, for a maintenance release!
22:09 cait wow
22:09 cait 91 sign offs from rangi
22:08 drojf impressive list
22:07 tcohen maybe add some \t in the 'bugs fixed' section?
22:06 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6afdd299cc62e7a4b3e6886bfef750ae4f6dc238
22:06 rangi preview
22:01 tcohen :-P
22:00 rangi get it passed qa and pushed into master, then ask me again:)
21:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8724 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Upgrade from NoZebra installs is broken
21:59 tcohen bug 8724 should be considered, for those lonely souls trying to upgrade from NoZebra setups...
21:56 rangi 09:40 <@rangi> the release is the 22nd nz time every month
21:56 wajasu i wish someone would rebase 6030 as my comment requires so i can test and get html working in overdues notices
21:54 wajasu when is 3.8.6 going to be released ? ;)
21:54 rangi and less warns in the logs too
21:54 rangi but im pleased to say 3.8.4 works well once that is done, and 3.8.5 will be even better
21:53 rangi getting the patch working and in would be god
21:53 rangi and only if upgrading from pre 3.8.0
21:53 drojf i'm so happy we don't have fines :)
21:52 rangi this is only if you do overdue fines
21:52 rangi then upgrade
21:52 rangi update accountlines set description = concat(description,' 23:59') where accounttype='F' or accounttype='FU';
21:51 rangi is to do
21:51 rangi the best way to upgrade currently, if you are using fines
21:50 rangi there is a patch to fix that, that is still in failed qa
21:50 rangi still issues with upgrading from older isntalls that use fines
21:50 rangi 3.8.4 works well on new installs
21:50 wajasu :)
21:50 rangi excellent
21:50 drojf so the wiki is kind of out of date
21:50 drojf for the record, koha 3.8.4 installs fine on the latest overclocking-friendly 2012-09-18-wheezy-raspbian hard-float image for the raspberry pi
21:49 rangi if you notice one of those, email me directly
21:49 rangi i will skip master for security related ones of course
21:49 tcohen so i'm ready for weekend :-D
21:48 tcohen great rangi
21:48 rangi nope, i check them all
21:47 tcohen i was asking if there's a way so it is not a problem if i forget about them :-D
21:47 rangi https://gitorious.org/koha-3-8-x/pages/Home
21:47 rangi some I have held until after 3.8.5
21:47 rangi im currently up to date with master
21:47 tcohen yes
21:47 rangi when it gets pushed to master i'll test it, and decide if i want it in 3.8.
21:46 rangi yep, too late for 3.8.5
21:46 tcohen but I just sent a new one
21:46 tcohen several calendar/due date related patches where pushed
21:46 rangi and then decide if i am going to cherry-pick it
21:46 tcohen he he
21:46 rangi however i look at every single patch pushed to master
21:45 rangi comment on the bug
21:45 tcohen rangi, how do we tell RMaint to look at some patches from master for his release?
21:44 cait done :)
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21:43 wajasu ok.
21:43 rangi jcamins releases his on the 22nd his time (3.6.x)
21:43 rangi the release is the 22nd nz time every month
21:43 wajasu thats one area i rarely look at. i should. :)
21:42 rangi are you on the mailing lists?
21:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #181 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:42 rangi we dont put new features in the stable branches
21:42 wajasu oh
21:42 rangi string freeze was on the 15th
21:41 wajasu oh.
21:41 rangi its always feature freeze
21:41 rangi there are no feature freezes in 3.8.x
21:41 wajasu is it saturday for you?
21:41 rangi im rmaint for 3.8.x
21:41 rangi what?
21:41 wajasu 4:30 friday for some of us.
21:40 wajasu remind me tommorrow is feature freeze, and later on is string freeze? or are you already releaseing.
21:40 cait rangi: that#s why I am still translating
21:39 tcohen what do 3.8.5-translate is?
21:38 rangi you have to do 3.6 too remember
21:38 rangi ?
21:37 cait 3.8
21:37 cait hm
21:37 cait done
21:33 * rangi doesnt see a 3.8.5-translate yet so if anyone wnats to do last minute translating this is your chance
21:31 cait hi rangi
21:31 tcohen hi rangi
21:30 * rangi wonders if fredericd is around?
21:30 wahanui privet, wajasu
21:30 wajasu hi
21:30 rangi morning
21:24 trea be well magnuse
21:20 * magnuse wishes #koha a good night or other time of the day
21:05 tcohen bye oleonard
21:05 oleonard Bye #koha
20:52 oleonard That's reasonable, especially since some people like having one at the top
20:52 jcamins I guess the thing to do is add CSS IDs to the two different paginators, and hide the top one by default.
20:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities
20:50 wahanui it has been said that bug 8209 is pretty good for QA too. :)
20:50 jcamins Bug 8209.
20:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches
20:49 jcamins It's been sitting at signed off since bug 7417 was pushed.
20:49 oleonard Okay I won't worry about it
20:49 jcamins oleonard: there's a patch for that.
20:48 oleonard I'm also getting "Did you mean: HASH(0xb1d5d4c)"
20:48 oleonard Easy not to notice it when you're testing the patch and only looking at the new theme
20:48 * jcamins didn't write it. :P
20:48 * cait points at jcamins :P
20:48 * cait was not involved
20:47 cait understandable
20:47 oleonard I don't like it when stuff like that creeps in without discussion
20:47 oleonard No, not only in those templates
20:47 jcamins oleonard: really? I didn't notice that either.
20:47 cait is it only in those templates?
20:47 cait I didn't notice that yet
20:47 cait oh
20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view
20:47 * oleonard grumbles about that being included in a patch for Bug 8597
20:46 * oleonard notices the OPAC search results now have page numbers at the top as well as the bottom of the page
20:46 oleonard In 15 minutes!
20:45 cait hm isn't it weekend for you? :)
20:45 cait hi oleonard
20:45 oleonard Hi cait
20:43 cait evening #koha
20:26 halcyonCorsair hopefully in a couple of days when I have some time
20:25 halcyonCorsair heh, as promised at the end of my blog post about it, I'll about easily using chef knife to get an ec2 image up with it as well
20:24 wajasu thx for sharing. deployment is going to get easier. :)
20:23 jcamins halcyonCorsair: got it, cool!
20:23 halcyonCorsair wajasu: rangi: jcamins: the chef stuff should install all the dependencies (for ubuntu 12.04), but it does take a little while to install them all, hence the vagrant box with deps to speed things up :)
20:05 * jcamins refers those who are concerned about this to item 2(a) in his search rewrite proposal, which would be necessary for changing the status quo.
20:05 trea thanks jcamins
20:04 jcamins trea: in fact, all data is returned by Z39.50 at all times.
20:02 trea yea i wouldn't think so. oleonard++
20:02 oleonard trea: Confirmed that Z39.50 does *not* ignore suppressed items.
19:59 * oleonard would be surprised if it did
19:58 trea if you configure your koha server to act as a public z39.50 target, will it ignore supressed items, just like it would in the opac search? anyone know?
19:58 trea kia ora #koha
19:54 tcohen i'm on my laptop now and cannot test
19:54 tcohen libsysguy, is it still broken?
19:44 oleonard jcamins: MARC is both your superpower and your curse
19:36 libsysguy tcohen did you know that your patch was broken?
19:34 jcamins wajasu: no, MARC 1920[wait, four digits? oops, this was a year]
19:33 wajasu overflow/unerflow
19:33 jcamins Can anyone guess what I ended up with instead?
19:33 jcamins I was just typing a date. March 1920.
19:33 jcamins AAAaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!
19:27 libsysguy it was before all the excitement over DBIx::Class
19:27 libsysguy great now I really can't remeber
19:26 libsysguy dude I avoid that thing like the plague
19:24 oleonard I hope it wasn't about the shelf browser because my head already hurts from that thing
19:23 libsysguy but now I can't remember what it is
19:23 libsysguy shoot there was something I was supposed to ask oleonard today
18:54 * oleonard frowns
18:54 oleonard ...or is it...
18:53 oleonard Oh wait, never mind. Data problem.
18:52 oleonard Anyone else not seeing location information on opac-detail.pl? in master?
18:49 jcamins Alas, no.
18:48 tcohen i realized we don't have tests for circulation yet
18:48 tcohen and fixed them
18:48 tcohen made some mistakes
18:47 libsysguy will do
18:47 tcohen bye #koha
18:47 tcohen let me know if you found any problem with it
18:46 tcohen libsysguy, gotta leave
18:38 tcohen :-D
18:37 tcohen its broken
18:35 libsysguy sweet, I'll check it out
18:28 tcohen added a brief test plan
18:18 libsysguy when you have that test plan just pop it in the comments on the bug and let me know
18:17 libsysguy so thats good news
18:17 libsysguy well the test passed
18:17 libsysguy it'll also let you set open/closed hours
18:17 tcohen hopefully
18:17 libsysguy ;)
18:16 libsysguy heh yeah this should take care of that
18:16 tcohen moving closures around is the only complaint our users have (besides the non-working calendar hehe)
18:15 libsysguy about to test yours
18:15 libsysguy sweet!
18:15 tcohen i really like it
18:15 libsysguy what do you think tcohen?
18:11 libsysguy I'm working to get the backend running with DBIx::Class
18:11 libsysguy yeah its all ajaxy
18:10 tcohen oh my
18:09 libsysguy tcohen: http://screencast.com/t/w5O8wOeat7m
18:07 libsysguy so Koha::Calendar will have the ability to give you any diff in units, yes
18:07 libsysguy well I made Koha::Calendar do only reads from the DB and Koha::Closure only does writes
18:07 tcohen of time
18:06 * libsysguy should push that code to github
18:06 tcohen for closed units
18:06 libsysguy and wrote a new module Koha::Closure
18:06 libsysguy I also deleted C4::Calendar
18:06 libsysguy I completely deleted Koha::Calendar and started over
18:06 libsysguy right
18:05 tcohen os you're not working on this code, but on a new implementation
18:05 tcohen i understand
18:05 libsysguy I wrote it so that it was more unit oriented instead of days hours
18:04 libsysguy but hopefully 3.12
18:04 libsysguy and it definitely won't be done for 3.10
18:04 tcohen oh
18:04 libsysguy but there is a LOT of it
18:04 libsysguy I haven't published the code yet
18:04 libsysguy well I am working on a calendar re-write
18:03 tcohen yes, I'll comment on testing
18:03 libsysguy heh
18:03 tcohen and mostly some advice on the solution I implemented to the problem
18:03 libsysguy give me a sec to apply and test, would you mind including a testing plan?
18:03 tcohen yes
18:02 libsysguy did you need a signoff?
18:01 libsysguy but since we can't currently set closed hours then I give it an okay
18:01 libsysguy my only problem with this (and its only because im a picky bastard about the calendar right now) is that it only accounts for days
18:01 tcohen to iterate over closed days until it finds an open one
18:01 libsysguy yeah I know there have been quite a few problems with that
18:01 tcohen added a helper next_open_day method
18:00 tcohen i check for the useDaysMode syspref eq 'Datedue' and make it behave as expected
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17:59 libsysguy so it looks like you added a days iterator to the calendar
17:58 libsysguy so the code looks ok, (i didn't look at the test)
17:58 tcohen oh, I made a mistake on the last test, replacing that patch
17:55 libsysguy sure
17:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8800 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , SpecifyDueDate && useDaysMode=Datedue wrong behaviour
17:54 tcohen libsysguy, could you please take a look at the patch for bug 8800 I've just attached?
17:17 libsysguy it certainly sounds like it
17:15 * jcamins wonders if Colin has configured DBIC previously.
17:12 gaetan_B bye !
16:45 libsysguy I need it for something I'm working on too, so I'd like to see it in master before I continue too much and have to deal with merge issues later
16:44 wajasu its going to help me because i have a bunch of tests using DBix to make the test dbindependent. won't integrate until after the release though.
16:43 wajasu your welcome.
16:42 libsysguy thanks for testing wajasu
16:42 libsysguy yeah that is removed in the latest version
16:42 wajasu libsysguy, i'm grabbing lunch, then will install a fresh VM, and try your test again. i'll add a comment. anyway, adding dummytest.pl may not be the best place for a devtool.
16:41 jcamins At least, not if he's still using colinc.
16:41 libsysguy damn it colin :p
16:41 jcamins Nope.
16:41 libsysguy is he on here?
16:41 libsysguy yeah
16:41 libsysguy comment 17
16:41 jcamins Oh, no, additional comment from Colin.
16:41 libsysguy no colin
16:40 jcamins You mean wajasu?
16:40 libsysguy im trying to figure out what colin is seeing
16:39 * libsysguy would hate to have the anger of jcamins rain down on him
16:39 * libsysguy phew
16:39 jcamins I just checked, and it looks like you're in the clear.
16:39 jcamins Okay.
16:38 libsysguy i swear
16:38 libsysguy thats not in begin
16:38 libsysguy I'm not allowed to add to them :p
16:38 jcamins What did I say about BEGIN blocks?
16:38 libsysguy yeah
16:38 wajasu or part of the patch
16:38 wajasu which is generated
16:38 jcamins Ah.
16:37 libsysguy use Koha::Schema
16:36 jcamins libsysguy: what's at line 102 in C4::Context?
16:36 libsysguy I wonder if something is set to manual
16:36 wajasu yes.
16:35 libsysguy have you done any cpan installs on tha tdev box?
16:34 libsysguy that seems strange to me
16:34 wajasu i'm trying to figure out how to debug something that won't compile. maybe a perl flag?
16:34 libsysguy so you can get koha to load on that bux but you can't run C4::Context
16:34 libsysguy hmm
16:32 wahanui koha user is who should own the files after install (or some user that does most definitely not have root privileges)
16:32 wajasu koha user
16:32 wajasu yes. kohadev
16:32 libsysguy are you running it as the koha user?
16:31 wajasu i want to figure this out, i can't even run perl Makefile.PL
16:31 libsysguy let me go look
16:30 wajasu my problem us the use C4::Context line causes the exception in comment#5. I installed libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl
16:29 libsysguy there were a lot of packages that were caught by libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl
16:28 libsysguy nope I just used the debian package
16:28 wajasu i see khall signed off, but i am trying from a virgin debian VM. there is some dependency missing, did you use cpan on your dev environment?
16:28 libsysguy I call it patch creepe
16:26 libsysguy I think we can fix it in the class files but at this point I wanted to take it little by little
16:26 libsysguy its because of our schema
16:25 wahanui i heard yeah that one was populated
16:25 libsysguy yeah that one
16:25 libsysguy oh
16:25 wajasu i'm testing your patch trying to get rid of and exception when running your test
16:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Needs Signoff , Add the use of DBIx::Class
16:25 libsysguy hey I got an updated patch on bug 8798, would you mind checking it out when you get a moment
16:24 wajasu yes
16:24 libsysguy wajasu you around
16:18 jcamins Today I learned that there is a Microscopist of the United States of America, or was in 1894.
16:14 jcamins Oh, wait, it's because updatedatabase didn't run, not that updatedatabase ran afterward.
16:14 jenkins_koha jcamins: syntax is: 'build <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]*'
16:14 jcamins !jenkins build master now
16:14 jcamins Oh, no, it's sysprefs.
16:13 jcamins Did my patch break master?
16:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8523 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority hierarchies only support UNIMARC
16:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5335 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , More granular VAT
16:04 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8523 follow-up OPAC styles for ccsr theme
16:04 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8523 follow-up fixing perlcritic
16:04 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8523 follow-up DBRev number
16:04 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8523: Display auth hierarchies w/all marcflavours
16:04 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 5335 follow-up DBRev number
16:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #854: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/854/
15:55 gtf21 and thanks
15:55 gtf21 drojf couldn't get libextutils-makemaker-perl to install but otherwise thumbs up
15:50 * drojf wanders off
15:50 drojf i guess i will be the one to buy chocolate then
15:48 * Shane-S would like to trade his hands/brain in for a better model...say $299 a month for 36 months?
15:47 Shane-S wow...my brain just types use instead of you
15:47 Shane-S oleonard-away: ty for the server page (think it was use, i lost the chat log)
15:46 jcamins Shane-S: excellent!
15:46 Shane-S jcamins: Thanks again, you saved me yet again, all those changes worked.
15:45 wajasu gtf21: there is a nice lua xmpp server called prosody that may play nice on your ARM i configured it into the IM world.
15:44 drojf mtompset: if you are really bored try centos first :P
15:44 * mtompset laughs as he heads out the door.
15:44 mtompset Anyone have a copy of OS/2? Perhaps we should try to get koha to work on it, just for the fun of it. ;)
15:43 drojf gtf21: i think i just did dpkg -i *.deb
15:43 mtompset And if someone is going to try to do a linux from scratch running koha, let me know. ;)
15:43 mtompset I'm off. Try not to have too much fun.
15:43 gtf21 now I have to work out the install order :P
15:42 mtompset bug fix.
15:42 drojf i hope it helps. if it does i should maybe put them somehwere permanently for the adventurous people with arm architecture
15:42 * mtompset smirks, "My bug got squash by a 2 year old bug that finally made it through."
15:42 gtf21 drojf thanks for these
15:41 gtf21 I did run a SiriServer off it at one point
15:41 drojf soon, after installing my cool trojan debs ;)
15:41 gtf21 jcamins yes, netatalk, occasionally transmission-daemon (although that's currently turned off)
15:40 jcamins gtf21: are you running other services on your Sheevaplug too? (just out of curiosity)
15:38 drojf [off] gtf21: http://abunchofthings.net/koha/raspi/
15:36 gtf21 I just want it to end
15:36 gtf21 I know but I've got this far
15:35 jcamins gtf21: you could su to root before running the command.
15:35 gtf21 thanks
15:34 drojf sure let me upload them somewhere
15:34 gtf21 ?
15:34 gtf21 if that's ok
15:34 gtf21 I guess I could give it a go with your deb files
15:34 gtf21 very annoying
15:34 gtf21 this CPAN installation asks me for my sudo password very three seconds
15:34 gtf21 indeed who knows
15:34 drojf that's what i would think, but who knows :)
15:33 gtf21 so it should be fine?
15:33 gtf21 they're compiled for the same arch right?
15:32 drojf gtf21: http://paste.koha-community.org/192 don't know if your sheeva plug would explode from my files and i had to install some things manually too
15:31 gtf21 they'll both be running debian
15:31 gtf21 R Pi just has less RAM
15:30 gtf21 sheevaplug is arm
15:30 gtf21 I mean, raspberry pi is arm
15:30 gtf21 but it will be a similar experience, no?
15:30 gtf21 drojf I know you had fun with it, but after this experience with the slightly more powerful sheevaplug, I think I'll avoid
15:30 jcamins gtf21: but the raspberry pi has already been done!
15:29 drojf WHY NOT?
15:29 gtf21 (and am waiting for my raspberry pi to arrive - but by god I am not installing koha on it)
15:29 gtf21 I like the sheevaplug
15:29 gtf21 I did consider using a proper server, but have never had a need to
15:29 gtf21 *home
15:29 gtf21 while that's an option, I love having a low-power server always on at hoem
15:28 * jcamins only uses i386/amd64 systems.
15:28 jcamins Yeah, that's an issue.
15:28 gtf21 is too much while I have other projects I should have been working on :\
15:28 gtf21 but the frustration of trying to get it to work via packages
15:27 gtf21 jcamins that's what I've been trying to avoid
15:27 jcamins gtf21: you can install using CPAN, of course. It's just more likely to make problems down the road.
15:24 gtf21 and it doesn't want me to update
15:24 gtf21 because depends on perl >= 5.13 and I have 5.10.1 on squeeze
15:24 gtf21 but alas I cannot install cpanminus without some playing around
15:23 gtf21 wajasu I was thinking of just resorting to cpanm despite the warnings of jcamins and drojf out of frustration
15:21 wajasu gtf21: if you can install cpanm , and run cpanm -L Plack it will create a local::lib and you can add that to your PERL5LIB environment variable
15:21 cait finally real internet
15:21 * cait waves
15:17 wajasu if you have wifi at the school, and there is such a thing as a koha iphone/android app, and some kids have one, maybe tell them to search with the app to bypass her
15:15 wajasu oh thats a people problem
15:15 Shane-S wajasu: lol....that won't help her, she is used to kids standing in front of her, she searches, and tells them where to go
15:15 drojf gtf21: yes i remem ber now, why i did not write the plack part up on the wiki. because it was a pain in the ass, i forgot about that :/
15:15 gtf21 it's ghastly
15:14 gtf21 thanks
15:14 drojf gtf21: i honestly don't know. dpavlin_ is the plack magician. but you could certainly try
15:14 wajasu Shane-S: maybe if you make it look like this http://gsd.sedck12.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl (a random find)
15:14 gtf21 actually I can't even install the Static Minifier
15:13 gtf21 drojf I cannot get half the stuff to install with dh-make-perl, if I'm not going to use the NYTProf stuff, can I miss out the Plack::Middleware::Debug packages
15:13 jcamins Shane-S: I believe you, I was joking. ;)
15:13 jcamins Shane-S: Seattle PL?
15:12 Shane-S oleonard: I will have to add that
15:12 oleonard http://irspy.indexdata.com/find.html?_query=dc.title+%3D+%28^colorado*%29+or+dc.title%3D%2Fsort+0&_search=Search
15:12 Shane-S jcamins: I did an ISBN search to no avail same with title... ISBN: 9780062090454
15:11 oleonard Shane-S: I find it in Colorado Unified Catalog, a Z39.50 server my catalogers like
15:10 drojf gtf21: yes that is kind of experimental still. i don't know if it's only a problem with arm packages or in general, we should have the dependencies in the koha repository one day
15:10 Shane-S trying to make cataloging as easy as I can for my Librarian (whom isn't letting kids use the computers to find book *cries a little)
15:10 jcamins Big Nate Fun Blaster wasn't in LC or NYPL?!?
15:10 Shane-S okay and last question, anyone know a good 39.50 server for kids books. I couldn't find Big Nate Fun Blaster in Lib of Cong or NY Public
15:09 jcamins numSearchResults, maybe?
15:09 jcamins Shane-S: yes. There's a syspref for each. I don't remember what it's called.
15:08 Shane-S second question...can I change how many record display in the OPAC and Staff searches to make less "pages"?
15:08 Shane-S ok ty
15:07 jcamins Shane-S: you need to turn on autobarcode. It's a syspref.
15:07 reiveune1 bye
15:07 Shane-S jcamins: I missed your response
15:07 Shane-S sorry my AP locked up, rebooted it...
15:04 jcamins Shane-S: you need to turn on autobarcode.
15:03 gtf21 ok
15:03 gtf21 this is messy
15:03 gtf21 ah I see
15:03 Shane-S in the "add Item" area, where you have the textbox to type/autogenerate a barcode
15:02 Shane-S first my "..." after barcodes doesn't work is that a setting or is something broken
15:02 drojf gtf21: ah yes i have that in my logs too. i used wget and built it myself. which lead to some more dependencies
15:02 Shane-S Hey all spent some time with my librarian today and I have some questions...
15:02 wajasu gtf21 add -d to make command and see
15:00 wajasu maybe try a debug or verbose mode for " make"
15:00 mtompset Did they write an uninstall script for koha in the early days or something?
14:59 gtf21 http://mibpaste.com/qAH2Tj
14:58 gtf21 and then when I tried build I get
14:58 gtf21 drojf jcamins - cannot even get past the dh-make-perl bits. On install I get a problem http://mibpaste.com/VD8g6O which then results in the installations failing
14:57 drojf mtompset: what oleonard says
14:57 oleonard Proprietary ils vendor mtompset
14:57 drojf jcamins: yes please :)
14:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #854 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:57 mtompset ex libris?
14:56 wahanui reiveune ate them all
14:56 jcamins drojf: chocolate?
14:55 drojf somebody should go and buy chocolate
14:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8523' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd1f62137de9a1b7f511bda881f4ffcc9e9d597f> / Bug 8523 follow-up OPAC styles for ccsr theme <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2bb0c78e5c51997262712f9f4cb83ac1f9ba39d> / Bug 8523 follow-up fixing perlcritic <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=af96a8ead3
14:52 drojf uninstall script for koha, eh? nice try, ex libris
14:52 tcohen thanks
14:52 oleonard It is not
14:52 tcohen oleonard, do u know if the due date is calculated in the templates somehow?
14:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=459 enhancement, P4, ---, mjr, NEW , No uninstall script
14:51 mtompset Okay... I'm going to attach my untested script up to bug 459 anyways.
14:50 tcohen and it just checks CanBookBeIssued and then AddIssue
14:50 tcohen i've read the whole code and found that the only date comes from the HTML
14:50 wajasu hdmi on one end, wifi chip, tine mem card, usbplug for power and storage its ARM
14:50 jcamins tcohen: libsysguy would know, but he just left.
14:49 tcohen can anyone point me to the code that actually uses the calendar in the circulation scripts?
14:49 jcamins wajasu: that looks similar to a SheevaPlug, only with more RAM?
14:47 * wajasu wonders if http://www.fxitech.com/ is a viable koha platform (just plug it in to a tv screen, and usb drive)
14:45 gtf21 then I wouldn't have asked
14:45 gtf21 I should probably think before typing
14:45 jcamins gtf21: yeah, I started typing before you said the same thing.
14:44 gtf21 just thought of that (hence previous message). just going through and checking
14:43 jcamins gtf21: did you use sudo before running the conf init?
14:43 gtf21 maybe it's a root thing
14:43 gtf21 ah
14:43 gtf21 but no such luck
14:42 gtf21 and cpan > o conf commit
14:42 gtf21 I tried cpan > o conf init
14:42 gtf21 I cannot for the life of me get the cpan configuration to be permanent. Every time I use dh-make-perl I have to go through the "Sorry, we have to rerun the configuration dialog for CPAN.pm due to some missing parameters"
14:41 jcamins :)
14:41 jcamins drojf: on the good days, yeah.
14:40 drojf but then they start to speak old church slavonic and the fun begins
14:38 jcamins drojf: well, there are days when I wish these books said "by John Smith, born in 1853."
14:37 drojf i assume that is a work of outmost joy for you
14:36 jcamins These past few weeks have been spent mostly authorizing names.
14:36 oleonard O, the libraries you've seen!
14:36 oleonard Cool.
14:36 jcamins oleonard: yes.
14:35 oleonard jcamins: When you're handling these things does that mean you're on site at a job?
14:35 drojf found a norwegian sim card instead
14:35 * jcamins adjusts his beret.
14:34 drojf hm. misplaced my spare microsd-card. no trying the new "turbo" release for the raspberry pi then
14:33 drojf lol
14:33 oleonard Because you're dark moody artist who's always wearing black?
14:32 jcamins Why am I always wearing black when I encounter books with redrot?
14:32 jcamins Ew. Ew. Ew. Red rot.
14:30 drojf it's slightly confusing to track plack stuff in bugzilla
14:30 jcamins drojf: it's believed to work, yes.
14:30 gtf21 by "using" CPAN
14:30 gtf21 ok I understand what you mean now
14:29 jcamins gtf21: nope, that's downloading the file off of CPAN, and then creating a package.
14:29 gtf21 I see
14:29 drojf i use a git installation btw, not 3.8. is plack in 3.8 already?
14:29 gtf21 ahh
14:29 jcamins The bad way looks like "cpan CGI::Compile"
14:29 gtf21 surely adding --cpan will use the cpan version?
14:29 drojf sorry for the confusion
14:29 gtf21 ok
14:29 jcamins That's the good way.
14:29 drojf good
14:29 gtf21 ?
14:29 gtf21 ok now I am really confused (apologies). If I use the commands as written in the wiki, which are, for example "sudo dh-make-perl --install --cpan CGI::Compile" that is the "good" way or the "bad" way
14:28 jcamins Installing from CPAN is bad because it results in files that are not controlled by the package management system, so if you run into problems, it's difficult to remove things.
14:28 drojf gtf21: that is fine
14:27 jcamins gtf21: that's the non-CPAN version.
14:27 jcamins I didn't know you could do it in one step like that.
14:27 gtf21 what is wrong with using dh-make-perl <cmd> --cpan? As in, why is cpan bad?
14:27 jcamins Huh.
14:26 drojf i actually used "sudo dh-make-perl --build --cpan modulename" instead of --install because install gave me errors. you can use --build and then just use dpkg to install it
14:25 drojf you would usually want to avoid it. if you use the method with dh-make-perl you get packages that you can remove easily if something goes wrong
14:24 gtf21 will it be ok to use cpan? I am really not familiar with perl
14:23 drojf oh and you don't want to use the profiler:nytprof thing, its for debugging and makes everything horribly slow
14:20 drojf ys i think so. i tried to avoid cpan, used sh-make-perl a lot but i needed to build some more packages than in the wiki
14:19 jcamins drojf: those are the instructions you followed, right?
14:19 gtf21 so to reiterate, 3.8 with Plack (done by following http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack) should be fine, right?
14:18 drojf that should not be a problem
14:18 gtf21 it's just for my family's personal book collection
14:18 gtf21 probably around 1000 books
14:18 drojf gtf21: how many items are supposed to go in your db?
14:16 gtf21 I'll let you know how it goes
14:16 jcamins (at least, that's my recollection from when I was trying to figure out why Koha was taking up so much RAM)
14:16 jcamins Each Apache process uses ~50MB/RAM, of which more than half is not shared.
14:15 jcamins gtf21: the problem is Apache, really.
14:13 drojf gtf21: would be cool if you let us know how it goes with the sheeva plug
14:13 * magnuse wanders off
14:13 magnuse gtf21: this page might have some more tricks: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Performance
14:12 drojf gtf21: it should run quite ok with plack
14:12 gtf21 I'll look into Plack
14:11 gtf21 and thanks, jcamins, again
14:11 gtf21 Koha really should not require more than 512MB of RAM to be honest. I mean database reindexing is quite intensive but surely its day to day operations are essentially as a database frontend
14:07 jcamins mtompset: no.
14:07 mtompset -- side question... If anyone has packages does their 'koha-list -h' work?
14:06 mtompset Not during a full reindex.
14:05 jcamins Zebra requires minimal resources, though.
14:04 mtompset I didn't. Fear me! :)
14:04 jcamins I did.
14:04 mtompset did you have swap?
14:04 jcamins mtompset: and drojf is using 256, I think.
14:04 jcamins mtompset: I've run Koha with 512MB/RAM.
14:03 * mtompset cringes in fear over his Zebra nightmares.
14:03 mtompset OH LORD!
14:03 * jcamins will let you finish your question now.
14:03 mtompset 512MB?!
14:02 * jcamins wrote that, clearly.
14:02 wahanui Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information.
14:02 jcamins Plack?
14:02 gtf21 this is sort of what I was asking
14:02 gtf21 ah I see
14:02 jcamins If you are not planning on doing development, you can use 3.8 with Plack.
14:02 magnuse jcamins: good plan :-)
14:02 jcamins If you are planning on doing development, go all the way and use git.
14:02 jcamins Don't do that.
14:01 gtf21 if I change my sources.list to have squeeze-dev
14:01 gtf21 yes, this is my question
14:01 gtf21 if I install from dev
14:01 jcamins gtf21: did you see the suggestion to use Plack?
14:01 gtf21 so 3.8
14:01 jcamins magnuse: right. Removing the packages should not remove your data.
14:01 gtf21 I installed from squeeze/main
14:01 gtf21 (and it shouldn't be _that_ slow)
14:01 gtf21 so koha is pretty slow on my sheevaplug (1.2ghz, 512mb DDR2) which is annoying
13:59 magnuse but this was apt-get remove?
13:55 jcamins koha-remove is for removing instances.
13:54 jcamins In fact, if it does, that's a bug.
13:54 jcamins I would think not, though.
13:54 jcamins mtompset: I am not sure.
13:53 mtompset if you run apt-get remove koha-common does that delete the user?
13:51 * jcamins doesn't care which variant you use.
13:51 jcamins I meant "so does" early, not "so do."
13:51 jcamins Of course. It's a command for managing the server.
13:50 mtompset Yes, yes you do.
13:49 mtompset do you need to sudo it?
13:49 jcamins mtompset: no, mostly just convenient, I think.
13:47 mtompset Is that like even lower level cross-platform?
13:47 mtompset apache2ctl restart?
13:46 mtompset http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#Displaying_dates
13:46 jcamins So do apache2ctl restart.
13:46 asaurat in Auth.pm ? why didn't my grep find that ? arf... thx I check that
13:46 jcamins mtompset: service apache2 restart works.
13:46 wahanui coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines
13:46 mtompset coding guidelines?
13:46 mtompset guidelines?
13:46 oleonard asaurat: I see it in Auth.pm
13:45 mtompset ^get^guess^
13:45 mtompset asaurat: I would get it has something to do with KohaDates? at the top.
13:45 magnuse mtompset: lol
13:44 asaurat does someone know where the variable "dateformat_metric", used in several templates, is supposed to be found ? I see it in TT files but nowhere else -_-
13:44 mtompset Someone want to do that for me?
13:44 mtompset Oh yuck. Now I have to test it.
13:43 mtompset so I went with the ugly /etc/init.d/apache2 restart call.
13:43 mtompset seeing as I have yet to see a "sudo service apache2 restart" for debian instructions.
13:43 mtompset I think I made it debian-friendly.
13:43 mtompset I hope it isn't ubuntu-ist.
13:42 magnuse yay!
13:42 mtompset I have the first attempt at an uninstall script!
13:42 * mtompset cackles.
13:41 jcamins magnuse: only more general-purpose.
13:39 magnuse similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonido#TonidoPlug perhaps?
13:39 jcamins My pleasure.
13:39 oleonard Thanks jcamins that explains everything :P
13:39 magnuse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SheevaPlug
13:38 jcamins It's an embedded system in a wall wort.
13:37 oleonard What is a sheeva plug?
13:37 drojf i hope we get some feedback about koha on a sheeva plug
13:37 drojf or her
13:36 drojf heh i missed him again
13:36 * oleonard hopes that means gtf21 was successful
13:25 magnuse tsk, kids these days
13:25 libsysguy GET OFF MY LAWN
13:25 * oleonard shakes his cane menacingly
13:24 * oleonard is astonished to hear kids these days talk about only taking classes after 12 and never on Friday
13:24 jcamins And no, there were no sports involved.
13:24 libsysguy you're a monster
13:24 jcamins libsysguy: when I was in college I got up between 5 and 6 every morning.
13:23 oleonard That cruel taskmaster.
13:23 libsysguy you're lucky bag makes me get up at 8 fro work :p
13:23 libsysguy some of us just gout out of college
13:22 libsysguy jcamins maybe for old people
13:22 gtf21 that was pretty stupid
13:22 gtf21 thanks...
13:22 jcamins (now that you've created an instance, though, you would need to modify the Apache config file)
13:21 jcamins You can modify that default with /etc/koha/sites.conf.
13:21 gtf21 #fail... I've done this before and I didn't even think of it this time
13:21 jcamins The packages default to using virtual hosts.
13:21 gtf21 ah
13:21 gtf21 jcamins, yes
13:21 jcamins gtf21: most likely, you need to add a Listen 8080 line to /etc/apache2/ports.conf.
13:21 gtf21 yes
13:21 gtf21 (tried changing to :81 but it still doesn't work)
13:21 jcamins gtf21: you installed from packages, right?
13:21 gtf21 but the :8080 I cannot connect on
13:20 gtf21 (but gives me a maintenance page)
13:20 jcamins libsysguy: 6:17 is perfectly reasonable.
13:20 gtf21 the :80 virtual host loads fine
13:20 gtf21 hi all, I cannot get my koha intranet to connect (running on debian squeeze, sheeva plug)
13:17 oleonard You intolerant timezonist.
13:17 libsysguy you know, the one with low housing costs and a lot of red states :'(
13:16 libsysguy dude some of us are in a different time zone :p
13:16 jcamins Silly morning.
13:14 oleonard it's happened again. morning.
13:14 jcamins Yes, unlike _some_ people, I was around two hours ago. :P
13:13 libsysguy again?
13:12 jcamins Again.
13:12 jcamins Good morning, #koha.
13:06 magnuse o/
12:46 magnuse oleonard: nengard and wizzyrea, at the very least?
12:43 tcohen hi mtompset
12:42 mtompset greetings, tcohen.
12:29 oleonard Who's got permission to do comment-spam cleaning on the web site?
12:27 cait thank you :)
12:27 * magnuse hands cait some duct tape
12:24 * cait needs more duct tape
12:24 * cait holds on to #koha
12:23 * cait waves back to all
12:23 * magnuse waves to Irma and oleonard and cait
12:21 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:08 paul_p (and checking everything is OK for UNIMARC)
12:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8523 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Authority hierarchies only support UNIMARC
12:07 paul_p QAing bug 8523 now ...
11:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=459 enhancement, P4, ---, mjr, NEW , No uninstall script
11:56 mtompset bug 459 caught my eye.
11:56 mtompset Now why would I be doing this?
11:56 mtompset The DataDumper is a piece I need to cut out. It was there as I was testing.
11:55 mtompset For the record: sudo perl -e "use Data::Dumper; use XML::LibXML; my \$parse = XML::LibXML->new();my \$xmldoc = \$parse->parse_file(\"$KOHA_CONF\");for my \$sample (\$xmldoc->findnodes('yazgfs/config/install_log')) { print \$sample->nodeName(),\": \",\$sample->textContent(),\"\n\"; }"
11:55 mtompset Woo hoo! I found a mega long perl equivalent to xmlstarlet!
11:53 drojf oh, more tiny koha, cool! :)
11:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5335 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , More granular VAT
11:34 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 5335 follow-up DBRev number
11:34 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 5335 - More granular VAT
11:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #853: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/853/
11:33 Irma wishes Nate a "Happy Birthday" :-)
11:25 jcamins (drojf is the one who installed Koha on a raspberry pi)
11:24 jcamins You're welcome.
11:24 jcamins Yup. And drojf can advise you.
11:24 gtf21 thanks for your help
11:22 gtf21 *i can break it
11:22 gtf21 it means I break it
11:22 gtf21 I prefer open source
11:22 jcamins :)
11:22 gtf21 the open source one
11:22 gtf21 I'll use Koha Koha
11:21 jcamins If you use LibLime Koha, you are entirely on your own.
11:21 gtf21 probably only 1k actually
11:21 gtf21 my household has a few thousand books
11:21 gtf21 oh right. But both are suitable for personal library management?
11:21 jcamins I think.
11:21 jcamins They open source old versions of their code- right now they're actually up to 5.0.
11:20 jcamins LibLime forked Koha 3.1 and made a closed-source system which they called "LibLime Koha."
11:20 gtf21 Ahh. What is the difference? They are based on the same source no?
11:19 jcamins Very different.
11:19 gtf21 which is confusing
11:19 gtf21 as the latest
11:19 gtf21 because their website lists 4.10
11:19 gtf21 is liblime Koha different from this?
11:19 jcamins Yup. :)
11:19 jcamins Nope, all Perl.
11:19 gtf21 this is for Koha 3.8 right?
11:18 gtf21 thanks
11:18 gtf21 I suppose it is
11:18 jcamins I'll check.
11:18 jcamins Hmmm... there are a couple of other packages that may be binary.
11:18 jcamins I'll fix the typo on that page.
11:18 jcamins Well, it's all Perl.
11:17 jcamins Notice the "dists/squeeze/main/binary-i386/"
11:17 gtf21 weird
11:17 gtf21 using i386?
11:17 jcamins http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_a_Raspberry_Pi#Add_the_Koha_repository
11:17 gtf21 Ahh
11:17 jcamins I'm finding the workaround now.
11:17 jcamins We don't have armel architecture, so you have to do a workaround.
11:16 gtf21 I mean I could just make install from source I suppose, but having apt-get upgrade would be nice.
11:16 jcamins_away Yeah.
11:16 gtf21 I guess the armel gives it away
11:16 gtf21 yep
11:16 jcamins_away I was close. :)
11:16 gtf21 No, a SheevaPlug
11:15 jcamins_away gtf21: are you installing on a raspberry pi?
11:15 gtf21 W: Failed to fetch http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/dists/squeeze/Release Unable to find expected entry main/binary-armel/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
11:15 jcamins_away gtf21: what errors are you seeing?
11:15 gtf21 apt-get update throws me the following error:
11:15 gtf21 (yes I copy-and-pasted from the wiki, and then made sure there were no typos)
11:14 gtf21 I wonder if someone could help me, I am getting errors with the apt repository for squeeze/main
11:14 gtf21 hello all
11:10 mtompset They aren't the standard 9998.
11:10 mtompset AH! Because the ports are blocked.
11:09 mtompset yaz.
11:09 mtompset The one I could taz to, did work.
11:09 mtompset Ah! All the default Z39.50 clients don't work!
11:01 drojf what do you mean? you can connect to your server but not search? or not connect at all?
10:59 mtompset I can yaz out, and yaz locally, but I can't do a z39.50 search?!
10:58 mtompset I just don't get it.
10:46 cait another train...
10:38 mtompset Anyone have any good links to security issues related to z39.50?
10:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5335 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=30dbc1c0a1c8b1b432181fe3d9ea9df8da6ea61a> / Bug 5335 - More granular VAT <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7faf087a3331bfee0348860a31518cc6f0c0075>
10:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #853 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
10:22 mtompset Does anyone have a nice perl equivalent to: sudo xmlstarlet sel -t -v 'yazgfs/config/install_log' $KOHA_CONF
09:25 magnuse w00t
09:25 mtompset magnuse++ # yay, I can reduce my worries.
09:24 * mtompset waves back.
09:24 mtompset Hi, cait-m. :)
09:22 magnuse \o/
09:21 * cait-m waves
09:13 magnuse yay!
09:13 drojf less grey hair for me :D
09:12 drojf magnuse++
09:12 drojf found it
09:12 magnuse http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/userprefs.cgi
09:12 magnuse Bugzilla > Preferences > General Preferences > After changing a bug
09:12 drojf oh really? that would be great
09:11 magnuse hm, i think there is a setting for that mtompset and drojf?
09:07 * mtompset nods, "Me too, drojf."
09:06 drojf bugzilla switching to the next bug after you change the status or add a comment still gets me near heart attacks. like "OMG why did i edit the wrong bug?!!?"
09:05 mtompset I think you should revise wahanui's information on cait, cait. :)
09:04 wahanui i heard kf was cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert.
09:04 mtompset kf?
09:04 wahanui That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :) or a librarian, you will get wahanui's information or a hero or signing off on wahanui's patch :) or confused, that's why i am asking, and we shout write it down somewhere
09:04 mtompset cait?
09:04 drojf choo-choo cait
09:04 mtompset On a CentOS 5.8 box, nonetheless. :)
09:03 mtompset But I was able to yaz-client to a partner organization in Australia. Nice. :)
09:02 * mtompset grumbles, "Likely reverse proxy setup issue."
08:53 magnuse firewall blocking port 9998?
08:49 mtompset some packet somewhere is getting blocked.
08:48 magnuse mtompset: any error messages?
08:46 wahanui Any ideas are welcome :)
08:46 mtompset Any ideas?
08:46 mtompset Okay... I can yaz out, but z39.50 searches still fail.
08:42 mtompset Does that mean your productivity will improve? ;)
08:37 cait and hi drojf
08:37 cait ;)
08:37 cait wobbly
08:37 drojf wb cait. how is the trainternet? :P
08:36 drojf good morning paul_p
08:34 cait not sure how long that is available now
08:34 cait i am not sure, using umts
08:34 paul_p cait = remember 6 years ago. Was here internet on trains at all ? ;-)
08:34 paul_p good morning cait
08:33 cait morning paul_p
08:32 cait internet_on_trains--
08:32 cait ...
08:29 mtompset oh, there's another commented area!
08:28 magnuse mtompset: yay!
08:26 mtompset okay, now I get failure messages, which is better than connection refused.
08:26 drojf trainternet-- ;)
08:19 mtompset okay, there we go. Restarted.
08:18 mtompset found that... but I've busted it good.
08:16 cait it'a nice train even
08:16 cait yep
08:15 drojf http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-restart-zebra
08:14 mtompset how do I restart zebra under a packages install?
08:14 mtompset changed the __blah blah__ to 9998.
08:13 mtompset Okay, I uncommented the three sections.
08:12 magnuse on the train?
08:12 magnuse \o/
08:12 * cait waves
08:03 magnuse well, the port is the one interesting piece of info, i guess
08:02 magnuse the settings are in there
08:02 magnuse yup
08:01 drojf from koha-conf.xml i guess?
07:59 mtompset So how do I know our koha server's z39.50 information?
07:57 mtompset Greetings, gaetan_B
07:48 gaetan_B hello
07:35 drojf koha-requests even
07:35 drojf there is a koha-request mailing list?
07:18 mtompset figured out the yaz-client enough to tesT:
07:15 mtompset Didn't think so. :)
07:14 mtompset wajasu: You still here?
07:11 cait bye all
07:10 cait ok have to catch my bus
07:06 mtompset It would be so much easier to just softlink the famfamfam/silk directory, and then anything that is missing on the intranet side would be fixed.
07:05 cait not sure, but is it possible that the file is in th esprite oleonard created?
07:05 cait hm
07:04 mtompset referenced in suggestion.tt
07:04 mtompset comment.png
07:04 mtompset Yes, completely missing.
07:04 cait if it's missing...?
07:04 mtompset BTW, do I really have to patch up a missing file that needs to be copied from the opac directories over to the intranet ones? *sigh*
07:03 mtompset you would think that would be the other way around, cait.
07:03 * mtompset laughs.
06:47 drojf heh
06:46 cait can't get anything done without it :)
06:46 cait oh yeah
06:45 drojf cait: miss the bad internet connection? :)
06:44 reiveune hello
06:43 * cait will spend another friday on a train
06:43 cait :)
06:43 drojf good morning magnuse and cait
06:41 * cait waves
06:40 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on September 21, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising).
06:40 magnuse @wunder boo
06:39 * magnuse waves
06:35 wajasu man yaz-client there are simple examples in the man page
06:34 drojf mtompset: vague recollection of a drojf not fully awake: read something about using yaz-client?
06:32 mtompset I mean z39.50
06:32 mtompset if i wanted to test zebra at the command line, how would I do that?
06:22 drojf brr
06:21 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 9.4°C (8:13 AM CEST on September 21, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
06:21 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
06:21 drojf good morning #koha
06:18 wahanui hola, wajasu
06:18 wajasu hi
06:18 alex_a1 bonjour
06:13 wajasu Undefined subroutine &DBIx::Class::Exception::blessed called at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Exception.pm line 55
06:13 wajasu it needs another module bummer. DBIx::Class::Exception::blessed
06:06 wajasu it needs another module bummer. DBIx::Class::Exception
06:05 wajasu I'm testing too
06:05 wajasu :)
06:05 mtompset not bad for a 10 minute hack. :)
06:00 wajasu i only just coded this 10 minutes ago to test the idea
05:57 wajasu once you have a cpanfile, you can run carton check, and it reports missing deps. do carton install ...
05:56 wajasu koha_perl_deps.pl -a --gencpanfile >cpanfile should give the required.
05:52 wajasu thats in the for loop ( only print for required )
05:50 mtompset (not just all)
05:50 mtompset But what if you want to only generated the cpan file for REQUIRED?
05:50 wajasu i left all the code the same. i only added an alternate output format.
05:49 mtompset Or perhaps, don't make gencpanfile required, and then fix the logic in the for loop.
05:47 mtompset Or $all = $all || $gencpanfile; above the pushes.
05:47 wajasu let me look
05:47 wajasu -a -g >cpanfile
05:47 wahanui mtompset: that doesn't look right
05:47 mtompset Change the three push lines to have || $gencpanfile
05:47 wajasu -a is all
05:47 wajasu i wanted to see if i could gen a cpanfile just for missing and ungrades.
05:46 wajasu its experimental.
05:46 wajasu put -a before it
05:46 mtompset wajasu: your -g doesn't push anything to @pm.
05:36 wajasu i'm glad i'm testing this typo: libdbic... instead of libdbix...
05:29 Waylon 2 features down, many to go. woot!
05:28 pastebot "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha_perl_deps.pl -a --gencpanfile >cpanfile" (225 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/191
05:19 wajasu carton cpanfile lets you specify : requires 'Test::More', '>=1.3', '<2.1'
05:19 mtompset The .all file is what you would use for a apt-get install.
05:18 mtompset I could clean that up, since I got -b and -r added to koha_perl_deps.pl
05:18 mtompset (ugly logic)
05:18 mtompset It uses koha_perl_deps.pl to grab the library names.
05:17 wajasu does yours behave better than the koha_perl_deps.pl ?
05:17 mtompset Because my parameters always require = in this version.
05:17 wajasu cool
05:17 mtompset I have a slightly newer version somewhere, but it isn't much improved from that.
05:15 mtompset http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=release-tools.git;a=blob;f=check_deps.sh;h=bc6d4161024cf1c7136bd01159041b2dd296631a;hb=HEAD
05:15 wajasu where is the release-tools repo?
05:15 mtompset Similar logic, but it generates output files if you tell it to.
05:15 mtompset in the release-tools repository, there is a script I wrote: check_dep.sh
05:14 mtompset How do you map the perl library filename to perl library name with apt-file?
05:14 wajasu it depsends on apt-file which i did not have in my VM.
05:14 mtompset Also, there is a release-tools repository.
05:13 mtompset It doesn't write any files, as far as I can tell.
05:11 wajasu i can run that just to see?
05:11 mtompset and generates a list of libraries to apt-get.
05:11 mtompset it reads PerlDependencies.pm
05:10 mtompset it's a program
05:10 mtompset no... list-deps
05:10 wajasu control
05:10 mtompset I may have logic similar to what you added to koha_perl_deps.pl
05:10 wajasu let me see
05:09 mtompset I mean look at...
05:09 mtompset did you check out debian/list-deps?
05:09 wajasu time to apt-get and run koha_perl_deps
05:09 wajasu i just validated that he added the debian/control and the C4/Installer/PerlDependencies
05:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Needs Signoff , Add the use of DBIx::Class
05:08 wajasu i'm testing bug 8798 right now
05:07 wajasu to see if ots going to cpan out ;)
05:07 wajasu it would let folks play with cpanm and carton without a hassle, to see if its going to deliver.
05:05 wajasu -g|gencpanfile
05:05 mtompset That would be a useful enhancement.
05:05 wajasu yup
05:05 mtompset did you do it off the version with -b and -r added? ;)
04:52 wajasu just a baby step for devs.
04:51 wajasu i just added an option to koha_perl_deps.pl -gencpanfile so one can generate a cpanfile for cpanm/carton. i wonder if i should add it as an enhancement.
04:12 * mtompset wonders how it could say the subroutine is undefined when it is right there where it says it isn't.
04:08 * rangi wanders off
04:08 Waylon haha
04:08 mtompset I'm on to the next one to check.
04:08 mtompset No... it just looks ugly.
04:08 rangi when we have actual bugs to fix?
04:08 rangi seriously, you are worried about that?
04:06 mtompset cond ? blah=1: blah=0.... why not: blah = (cond?1:0)?!
04:06 mtompset I was just looking at a bug we hit in 3.6.3 and the fix is in 3.6.x, 3.8.x, and master, but the solution is UGLY!
04:05 mtompset It's not complete melodrama. Some of the code is a nightmare to read in Auth.pm
04:05 rangi its not even deep, melodrama :)
04:04 mtompset I just know I fear reading the depths of code.
04:04 mtompset I know nothing.
04:04 mtompset I didn't do it.
04:04 * mtompset shrugs.
04:04 Waylon basically, a change that was made, in order to not change all the pl files eh?
04:03 Waylon waaaa!
04:03 mtompset Don't ask... but hidden deep in the maze of code, it gets remapped.
04:03 Waylon hrm... get_template_and_user still points to template_name *.tmpl ...... thought we now have tt?
04:00 Waylon yes, that worked.
04:00 Waylon whew
03:47 Waylon .... i need to cherrypick the commit to get it back?
03:46 Waylon ah.. its still there...
03:45 Waylon goodbye pdflinks branch
03:45 Waylon git symbolic-ref refs/heads/pdflinks refs/heads/mdm_bug1
03:45 Waylon gah f...... i mistakenly erased a branch using git symbolics
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03:15 Waylon ill just have to port this feature when 3.10 comes out eh?
03:15 Waylon ah.. no 3.10 yet
03:14 Waylon hmm.. so this has happened before..
03:13 wahanui git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches.
03:13 Waylon fatal: git checkout: updating paths?
03:13 Waylon fatal?
03:13 Waylon ??
03:13 wahanui i already had it that way, Waylon.
03:13 Waylon fatal: git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches.
03:13 Waylon going from branch to new branch using git checkout -b mandumahstable origin/3.10 doesn't work.
03:12 Waylon okay.... ive finished my first feature... i have commited it.. now i switch back to master, and then checkout another branch, to create another feature?
02:18 * Waylon facepalms
02:18 Waylon ....
02:13 Waylon though..... im editing the "action:" commands.... so.... hmm.. maybe the tempaltes wrong.
02:12 Waylon since modifying it at opac-search.pl, with XSLT on, is too late?
02:11 Waylon ah... maybe i need to put my url stuff in searchRecords before the XSLT formatting?
02:08 Waylon okay.. nevermind.. it leaves search.pm intact....
02:05 Waylon ahh.. found it as it came into search.pm... wonder why it gets filtered out..
02:02 Waylon hrm... url is found in results in Transform MarcToKoha, but when it gets delivered to searchResults, its no longer in the biblio information.
01:52 Waylon hello all. okay, my code requires 'url' be a key inside the search results hash of opac.... frameworks map 863u to url, yet no url is exposed in the search results, anyone got any ideas why not?
01:33 libsysguy rangi++
01:33 libsysguy thanks much
01:33 libsysguy sweet
01:33 rangi just the original
01:33 rangi you could also edit the .packages files in install_misc/
01:33 libsysguy can I just use the original or do I have to list them all
01:32 libsysguy if I have a dep that requires more packages
01:32 libsysguy follow up question
01:32 libsysguy i see
01:32 rangi one is for git/tarball installs, the other is for building packages
01:32 rangi C4/Installer/PerlDependencies.pm
01:31 libsysguy I would have never found that
01:31 rangi and
01:31 libsysguy thanks rangi
01:31 rangi debian/control
01:28 libsysguy yo where do I add new deps?
00:14 mtompset Yes, that would be a terrible way to add it. I see where I was confusing.
00:13 jcamins You asked how to *add* the field.
00:13 jcamins mtompset: checking whether you have the field is one thing.
00:13 mtompset Then an if check to see if I even have the field seems like a reasonable patch to me.
00:12 jcamins 773 is entirely unnecessary.
00:12 jcamins mtompset: of course not.
00:12 mtompset Is 773 a required field?
00:11 mtompset Surely I'm not going to be the only one with no 773 fields.
00:10 mtompset jcamins++ # git blame + git show worked nicely.
00:10 jcamins mtompset: no, that's a terrible way to do it.
00:08 mtompset Or add an if check around a piece of analytics code. ;)
00:07 jcamins mtompset: export the records and do it with MarcEdit, or write a script.
00:05 mtompset Is there an easy way to add, let's say 773 fields to every record already in Koha?
00:03 mtompset I'm still waking up.
00:03 mtompset oh wait... the next line is a massive if clause.
00:02 jcamins Just report a new bug.
00:01 mtompset someone forgot a semi-colon.
00:01 mtompset This retro-bug is from 2008.
00:01 jcamins If the commit is older than, say, two years, you're SOL.
00:01 mtompset Ah okay... giving that a whirl.
00:00 jcamins git show {hash}
00:00 mtompset git show?
00:00 jcamins If you're lucky, there will be a bug number in the commit.
00:00 jcamins mtompset: git blame + git show.