Time Nick Message
23:58 mtompset (or something other than git blame)
23:58 mtompset Does anyone know how to use git blame to figure out a bugzilla number to look up?
23:57 mtompset Happy Birthday, Nate? :)
23:57 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
23:25 wajasu dang
23:24 jcamins /etc/environment?
23:24 jcamins wtf?
23:24 jcamins In the Ubuntu documentation.
23:23 jcamins Are we using *csh*?
23:23 jcamins ... wait, our documentation isn't for Bourne shell?
23:18 rangi TT for now, there is still a ton we can do with it that we are only just starting
23:17 wajasu are you guys lokking into the web frameworks, or just sticking with TT
23:15 wajasu i agree with what you are doing.
23:12 rangi (letting people choose is much better)
23:12 rangi which is why I fought against dumping zebra for solr so hard
23:11 rangi whatever we do, has to still work simple and with little overhead for the 70% of the world who dont have the resources we do
23:11 jcamins Well, sans the dependency on Tomcat.
23:11 rangi i cant think of much worse
23:10 wajasu and if you don't want to code java, groovy would be similiar to what the perl world is like.
23:10 wajasu if you are going to do OO, and start having daemon servers (that must be solid, no memory leaks, etc) and you use plack or such, you are now in the same class as java.
23:09 * jcamins likes it, though.
23:08 * jcamins did not know that's what wahanui had for "Moose"
23:08 wajasu i agree.
23:08 wahanui Moose is liking dumping every tool in the world into every module
23:08 jcamins Moose?
23:08 jcamins wajasu: the thing is, even if there is a slight performance hit, we don't really have another better option.
23:07 jcamins Oooooh.
23:07 wajasu you can script the whole thing. i would use carton deploy to pull in deps to match.
23:07 rangi so what we could do as a community, is have a few of those images, keep them up to date, and then ppl could use them as the base to deploy from
23:07 rangi but he has an image http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5595111/precise64-kohadeps.box with the deps all installed
23:06 wajasu jcamins: i just made a note of it, so me or someone will run the misc/load_testing ApacheBench and make shur things don't slow down. I don't think it would matter, but I think I will right a test.
23:06 rangi you could make it do that, yep
23:06 jcamins Oh, maybe that's what his chef repo is for?
23:06 jcamins But it doesn't install the dependencies?
23:04 jcamins Very.
23:03 rangi cool eh
23:03 jcamins Whoah.
23:02 rangi but using chef or puppet to provision/tear them down
23:02 rangi built ontop of virtualbox
23:01 rangi http://vagrantup.com/
23:01 jcamins What's vagrant exactly?
23:01 rangi want a dev instance, .. that easy
23:00 rangi in a vm
23:00 rangi and its off and installing koha
23:00 rangi and ran vagrant up
23:00 rangi made my Vagrantfile (using his)
23:00 rangi apt-get install vagrant
23:00 rangi so i just did
23:00 rangi http://halcyoncorsair.tumblr.com/post/31841813338/deploying-koha-from-git-with-chef
23:00 jcamins What did he do?
22:59 rangi halcyonCorsair++
22:59 rangi holy crap that is too easy
22:45 jcamins wajasu: I'd be interested to know if it made a difference, but I'm not convinced it matters.
22:44 wajasu we might need to add a benchmark requirement if the module is added to C4/Context , what do you think?
22:44 jcamins Some of those people are going to be waiting quite a while.
22:43 jcamins_away 303 holds on the three copies of the new Dark Shadows film that the NYPL has on order.
22:43 wajasu ok.
22:42 jcamins_away wajasu: yes.
22:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Needs Signoff , Add the use of DBIx::Class
22:35 wajasu rangi: was just testing bug 8798. if they are adding the DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader woun't they need to add it to koha_perl_deps.pl ? i did prove t/Context.t and its not installed. I only install what that script says.
22:16 rangi the great thing about the wiki, anyone can edit it ;)
22:13 wajasu maybe put it in the wiki on git usage and gitbz
22:13 wajasu :)
22:12 rangi :)
22:12 rangi put that in in your git commit hook
22:12 rangi TEST_QA perl t/00-testcritic.t
22:12 wajasu there that does it
22:11 rangi wajasu: t/00-critic.t
22:11 wajasu though jenkins is not really part of that
22:11 wajasu or maybe we can create a jenkins plugin that generates a report on bugs waiting for signoff, or QA and emails the person who wrote the patch the perlcritic report
22:09 wajasu signoff folks can do this and just note it in bugzilla much earlier than when QA kicks in just before freeze date.
22:08 wajasu i cpan'ed it and now i run it on my code.
22:08 * magnuse wanders off to find some sleep
22:07 magnuse wajasu: i was just thinking the same thing - a description of how to use perlcritic, perltidy, the qa tools, tests etc
21:36 tcohen tennis time, byeeeee
21:23 wajasu now i've got perlcritic installed. we've got to get more in the wiki saying to install perlcritic and possibly have test case, so folks don't get bitten by it at QA time last minute.
21:20 wajasu you old NateC
21:20 rangi cya NateC
21:19 NateC g'bye #koha thanks again for all the birthday wishes!
21:12 tcohen http://es.koha-community.org/manual/
21:12 rangi yay!
21:11 tcohen well, most languages really
21:11 tcohen the koha-es community got the message about translating the Koha manual
21:10 rangi hi tcohen
21:09 tcohen hi #koha
20:59 libsysguy AAHHHHH MOTHERLDAND!!!
20:59 libsysguy holy cow I loved that cartoon as a kid
20:59 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZMwKPmsbWE
20:59 rangi the end of ze world
20:58 libsysguy bad code :p
20:58 libsysguy there was also one about a db handle
20:58 rangi you know where the wtf mate thing comes from eh?
20:58 rangi heh
20:58 libsysguy shit we're open, guess I have to go to work today
20:58 libsysguy I like colins from the old calendar module
20:58 libsysguy heh
20:57 rangi iirc
20:57 rangi libsysguy: can't find it, it was WTF mate
20:56 rangi it could just run the rest and mark the build broken if the coverage reduces
20:56 rangi for jenkins, since it already runs prove_cover
20:56 rangi but nice and simple
20:55 * jcamins declares the day over and heads home.
20:55 jcamins Right.
20:55 rangi i just did xt now cos its fast
20:54 rangi you can make it do xt/ t/ etc
20:54 pastebot "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "coverage.sh" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/190
20:54 rangi heres the script
20:53 jcamins Nice!
20:53 rangi check that (different thing, im still looking for the comment)
20:53 pastebot "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Testing coverage" (56 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/189
20:44 rangi i wonder if i can find it in the history
20:43 libsysguy what did it say?
20:42 rangi kados made me take out my comment
20:38 libsysguy sometimes the comments in really old code crack me up
20:25 rangi i remember i mapped that to show tabeles;
20:23 rangi to get a list of tables
20:23 rangi select somemadness from some table
20:23 gmcharlt yes
20:23 jcamins sqlplus = Oracle client?
20:22 rangi i remember that
20:22 rangi ah yep
20:22 * jcamins read the man page.
20:22 gmcharlt jcamins: add readline support to sqlplus
20:22 jcamins gmcharlt: what do you do with rlwrap?
20:20 cait killing printers?
20:18 bag I love that topic :D
20:18 rangi either works
20:18 wajasu rangi: if i grab a failedQA and supply a patch for the perlcritic and test, must I have someone else signoff? Or should I get the original dev to make the change and I signoff?
20:15 wajasu mtompset: FYI 6030 i just removed the perlcritic violating requires, and the script ran just fine in both dev and standard install, so its using the PERL5LIB to locate things.
20:15 gmcharlt cait: sadly, no
20:14 cait can it kill printers?
20:14 gmcharlt my favorite new little utility today: rlwrap
20:14 rangi self_check_machines--
20:14 rangi hardware--
20:12 cait printers--
20:06 * drojf bakes a buckwheat-sunflower-bread. or tries to
20:06 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies
20:06 drojf cookies!
19:55 * jcamins has a snack.
19:55 jcamins Speaking of food...
19:54 * cait hurries to put some cookies in #koha
19:54 mveron Good nicght #koha
19:52 rangi Gah
19:49 drojf rangi: speaking of craziness… https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/09/trademark-abuse-and-gaymer-community
19:42 wizzyrea I think I have become spoiled by android.
19:42 wizzyrea also, ios didn't have "reply with message" before now?
19:42 wizzyrea wait - ios didn't have an alarm clock?
19:42 drojf i think we will see a lot more craziness before that happens
19:40 rangi Before ppl fix the patent laws
19:40 rangi It has to get to utter madness
19:40 rangi That would rule
19:39 drojf i hope they ban the ipad all over europe for patent infringement now ;)
19:38 mveron drojf: Swiss precision... :-)
19:37 drojf mveron: http://www.blick.ch/news/wirtschaft/apple-klaut-bahnhofs-uhr-der-sbb-id2040821.html :D
19:28 NateC thanks!
19:28 jcamins Also, happy birthday, NateC.
19:26 * jcamins might have recognized that one. ;)
19:26 jcamins It was not the quote that they read at every single wedding these days, though.
19:25 JoeLib001 Interesting. :-)
19:25 jcamins For those of you who don't read Hebrew, that was a quote from Song of Songs earlier.
19:21 jcamins I guess it would be a neat party trick for weddings, since apparently quoting from it is de rigeur.
19:19 * jcamins has not memorized Song of Songs.
19:19 jcamins Oh.
19:19 bag it's NateC's birthday today ;)
19:17 * wizzyrea giggles
19:17 mandrake congrats NateC
19:17 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
19:17 wizzyrea natec?
19:17 * jcamins scratches his head. I think my IRC client messed up the lines.
19:16 mandrake jcamins and google do. I just copy/paste wikipedia
19:15 drojf unfortunately i don't speak that language but it looks pretty
19:15 mandrake Ö´××™×, ×’Ö·Ö¼×-יְשָ×× Ö´×™×; דּוֹדִי, ×¦Ö¸×¤Ö·× Ö°×ªÖ´Ö¼×™ לָךְ
19:15 mandrake לְכָה דוֹדִי × Öµ×¦Öµ× ×”Ö·×©Ö¸Ö¼×‚×“Ö¶×”, × Ö¸×œÖ´×™× Ö¸×” בַּכְּפָרִי×.× Ö·×©Ö°×כִּימָה, לַכְּרָמִי×--× Ö´×¨Ö°×ֶה ×Ö´×-פָּרְחָה הַגֶּפֶן פִּתַּח הַסְּמָדַר, ×”Öµ× Öµ×¦×•Ö¼ ×”Ö¸×¨Ö´×žÖ¼×•Ö¹× Ö´×™×; שָ×× ×ֶתֵּן ×ֶת-דֹּדַי, לָךְ.הַדּוּדָ×Ö´×™× × Ö¸×ªÖ°× ×•Ö¼-רֵיחַ, וְעַל-×¤Ö°Ö¼×ªÖ¸×—Öµ×™× ×•Ö¼ כָּל-מְגָדִי×--חֲדָש
19:14 * wizzyrea muses that all flowers are nude
19:14 drojf you mean, thinking of nude flowers and stuff? :D
19:10 * wizzyrea wonders if the talk of "floral sperm banks" made everyone disappear
19:03 * oleonard waves goodbye
19:02 oleonard technically correct--the best kind of correct
19:01 wizzyrea sometimes accuracy is the funniest of all possible funnies.
19:01 jcamins wizzyrea: accurate, though.
19:00 wizzyrea "floral sperm bank" - that's a keeper.
18:59 jcamins drojf: yeah. Someone mentioned it.
18:59 drojf seed library? like a floral sperm bank? on koha? that's so cool
18:59 jcamins Huh. George Jackman was single-handedly responsible for destroying the clematis industry by introducing a cultivar that was not resistant to clematis wilt which crowded out the earlier cultivars.
18:58 jcamins And actually there's a seed library using Koha.
18:58 jcamins No, books about plants.
18:58 wizzyrea aside - plants in MARC format? you must be mad.
18:57 wizzyrea are you cataloguing plants?
18:57 jcamins No one appears to have cared.
18:57 jcamins I can't even figure out what her name was.
18:57 wizzyrea we used to be calm, steady, staunch progressives, wth happened.
18:56 wizzyrea …and legislature
18:56 * wizzyrea will not admit to any deficiency in Kansas, except maybe apologize for our ridiculous governor.
18:55 wizzyrea we have many kinds.
18:55 wizzyrea hmm, probably.
18:55 jcamins But do you have _Mrs. George Jackson_ clematis?
18:55 wizzyrea we have clematis all over the place here.
18:55 wizzyrea hehe
18:55 jcamins wizzyrea: I'm glad they taught you about the Clematis, 'cause I sure had never heard of it.
18:54 JoeLib001 Don't worry. All they need to know about is wikipedia. ;-)
18:54 JoeLib001 Hehe.
18:54 wizzyrea ^^ all things I learned from *my* school librarians, btw.
18:54 jcamins Am I the only who thinks that calling a flower "Mrs" is a bit odd?
18:54 wizzyrea or how to differentiate between a good source and a bad source
18:53 wizzyrea or how to find good information
18:53 wizzyrea and that's ok - but then they decide the paras aren't necessary either, so then it's just a self serve library, with no one to educate the kids on how to use the library
18:52 wizzyrea so they replace degreed librarians with paras
18:52 wizzyrea i really feel for school librarians - school boards, principals, and superintendants don't get their necessity
18:52 wizzyrea you must be in a school.
18:51 jcamins Mrs. George Jackman has a flower named after her!
18:51 Shane-S well I sure as hell don't want her job....so it isn't something going away...who else is going to manage the actual books and inventory
18:50 wizzyrea O.o perhaps she feels this is job security
18:50 Shane-S I know they kids can do it, they all have email, use Google Docs, Take online tests, and "illegally" facebook!
18:50 Shane-S She still has them come to her desk and "ASK" if she has a book
18:50 Shane-S My next challenge is to get the librarian to USE the 15 desktops ...I.E. let me kids search for a book!
18:48 wizzyrea it could technically function as a complete library mobile app
18:48 wizzyrea and events
18:48 wizzyrea it can pull in news from RSS
18:48 wizzyrea well, it can do some pretty awesome stuff
18:47 Shane-S You kidding I *just* got the library into the 20th century :)
18:47 jcamins Shane-S: ah. Don't think Library Anywhere would help you at all with that.
18:47 Shane-S our*
18:47 Shane-S jcamins: lol I meant for out website, not the library :P
18:47 jcamins Shane-S: the good news is, there's now a mobile interface.
18:46 jcamins ^^ sory, kneejerk reaction
18:46 jcamins Shane-S: no! Bad! No "making a mobile version"! *Share* the mobile version.
18:46 Shane-S ah, I have to look into an app for our site at some point, or maybe just making a mobile version
18:44 wizzyrea until we get the mobile CSS
18:44 * Shane-S admits not much looking or knowldge
18:44 wizzyrea for now
18:44 wizzyrea yep
18:44 jcamins Oh, I didn't realize you used Library Anywhere.
18:44 wizzyrea no, we use library anywhere
18:43 Shane-S *raises hand* Umm how did you make an app? I assume it just takes you to a mobile version?
18:43 jcamins Exactly.
18:43 wizzyrea strange, weird, and often messy. ;)
18:42 * jcamins uses it for examples of what records at public libraries look like.
18:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8680 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Z39.50 searches for ISBN/ISSN problematic in the Acquistions Module
18:42 JoeLib001 I updated Bug 8680.
18:42 wahanui nexpress is http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org
18:42 wizzyrea nexpress?
18:42 wizzyrea NExpress is http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org
18:42 wizzyrea http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org
18:42 JoeLib001 Hehe.
18:42 wizzyrea it's the catalog for the Northeast Kansas Library System
18:42 oleonard You can't, sorry
18:42 JoeLib001 I don't see an option to edit it. ;-)
18:41 JoeLib001 Can I edit my comment in the bug tracker, if I found a typo?
18:41 Shane-S whats is the NExpress catalog?
18:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, Needs Signoff , Remove search terms in advanced search
18:41 * mveron rebased Bug 8600 and hopes that nothing was pushed in the last couple of minutes :-)
18:41 Shane-S Yeah problem was I wasn't even in building so they couldn't checkout books all day
18:41 jcamins :)
18:40 jcamins And I have had confirmation from wizzyrea that the NExpress catalog does actually work.
18:40 Shane-S jcamins: yeah, sometimes simpler was better, never had this issue back in FFx 1&2 days :P
18:40 jcamins And it seems to be hitting the server.
18:40 jcamins The page itself works fine.
18:39 jcamins Shane-S: the first URL that Chrome suggests on the NExpress catalog somehow has cached *something* that means that all of the links lead to syntax errors.
18:38 jcamins Shane-S: the weirdest things get cached.
18:37 tcohen it doesnt ask Koha::Calendar for validity
18:37 Shane-S Was more of a "why not" option
18:37 Shane-S jcamins: Yeah, though watching http://library.npelem.com become https://library.npelem.com in the address bar didn't make me think "Cache"
18:37 tcohen SpecifyDueDate needs to be set thou
18:37 tcohen cait, jcamins the stickyduedate overrides every other config
18:36 Shane-S Thank god I didn't have to figure out how to setup SSL redirection with ports and such was hard enough getting URLs port mapped
18:36 jcamins Shane-S: that fixed it?
18:35 Shane-S okay just an FYI for anyone with a complex network setup (firewall, reverse proxy, servers) if Firefox is throwing errors and the URL is changing to HTTPS clear EVERYTHING
18:35 cait but that's ore a feeling not knowing
18:35 cait it should I think... override everything
18:34 jcamins tcohen: I'm not sure, actually.
18:33 tcohen ?
18:33 tcohen jcamins, if a librarian specifies a due date on the circ screen, does it override a hard due date
18:32 JoeLib001 Thanks.
18:32 JoeLib001 jcamins: That worked! :-)
18:31 maximep *too
18:31 maximep did I type fines ? do much koha for me
18:31 Shane-S it is like the dirty little secret PCs are slow because of the drives
18:31 maximep even if that first generation is knows to be not reliable at all
18:31 jcamins JoeLib001: try: git format-patch origin/master
18:31 Shane-S I did that for a client of mine, he has a Pentium D that runs faster then my Six-core AMD, because of the SSD
18:30 maximep my SSD is 3 years old by now and it's still running fines
18:30 JoeLib001 For some reason "git format-patch mater" isn't working. When I run "git show" it shows the commit that I have run.
18:30 tcohen my old xps (c2d) is so fast with an ssd that I decided not to buy a new one
18:30 Shane-S let me go try that on the librarians system
18:29 Shane-S okay somehow its is the cache or other area...I checked all boxes and picked everything
18:29 jcamins maximep: but if you swap to an SSD, don't you shorten its lifespan dramatically?
18:28 maximep well, maybe not on a laptop
18:28 tcohen ok, i'll fill a bug
18:28 maximep SSDs are so fast that they barely slow down when they swap :P
18:28 jcamins Bug.
18:28 tcohen rigt
18:28 jcamins Oh!
18:28 tcohen i'm trying to figure out if it is a bug or a feature
18:28 jcamins tcohen: however, it seem to me it should.
18:28 tcohen i doesn't
18:27 jcamins tcohen: I think it does not respect useDaysMode.
18:27 tcohen any thoughts on my question?
18:26 jcamins It's the RAM.
18:26 jcamins maximep: it's not the HD that's the problem.
18:24 maximep vm is booting in 5 secs =)
18:24 maximep jcamins you need a SSD
18:24 mveron Will have a look
18:24 tcohen should useDaysMode=nextDayOpen be taken into account when hard due dates are used? (the librarians incorrectly specify a holiday as hard due date)
18:24 jcamins Updating FF in the VM was going to be too much for my poor laptop.
18:24 mveron Thanks :-)
18:24 maximep once it applies :p
18:24 maximep oh but I really like it, mveron++
18:24 mveron Oh..
18:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, Needs Signoff , Remove search terms in advanced search
18:23 oleonard mveron: Your latest patch on Bug 8600 doesn't apply for me
18:23 jcamins Also works fine on FF 3.6.26 under Windows 7.
18:23 mtj Shane-S, firepig works for me on 15.01-osx, ftw
18:22 Shane-S now I have to figure out what is making FFx do this https:// thing on my systems
18:21 Shane-S IE worked....stayed as http://
18:21 Shane-S *gasp* checking in IE
18:20 Shane-S just curious why only FFx is having this http -> https conversion
18:20 mveron hi #koha
18:20 cait lol
18:20 * jcamins enjoys the pained "urrrrrrrkkkkk" sound of his laptop trying to start Windows 7 in a VM.
18:20 maximep both in ff 11 and 15
18:20 maximep works fine in windows
18:19 Shane-S awesome if you can, just need to know if it definitely FFx or something maybe the sonicwall is doing inside the building
18:19 maximep I can try on windows in a min
18:18 maximep yes
18:18 Shane-S maximep: worked for you right?
18:18 Shane-S anyone have a PC with FFx 15.0.1 that I can have try http://library.npelem.com
18:18 maximep 15.0.1 here... on linux
18:17 Shane-S my whole library is PC only...I have no work around :(
18:16 Shane-S okay now I am "pissed"...PC version only is doing it
18:15 Shane-S good thinking jcamins :)
18:15 Shane-S ahh...let me get my MacBook Pro out and check
18:15 jcamins But on OSX.
18:14 jcamins (is)
18:14 * jcamins
18:14 Shane-S okay 15.0.1 seems to be the problem, anyone running that?
18:13 drojf good evening
18:12 Shane-S checked on system running 7.01 and worked...hunt continues
18:08 Shane-S and fails...off to the library I go to see if that is happening there
18:08 Shane-S *sigh* FFx 15.0.1 re-loaded and when I do http://library.npelem.com it changes to https://
18:04 Shane-S I am going to restart my FFx and be back (using web irc)
18:04 Shane-S no that is the issue...FFx just started doing that, was working fine prior
18:03 jcamins Do you use httpsalways or some sort of plugin?
18:03 jcamins Ummm...
18:03 jcamins Ah.
18:03 Shane-S yeah I am going to, but my librarian reported no access, and I have all the systems using FFx :(
18:03 Shane-S jcamins: yeah I want that so I can remotely make changes :P, but on my side (in the building) neither is working in FireFox
18:02 jcamins Try it with FF on a different computer?
18:02 Shane-S well its fine, just on my end I can;t get the HTTP to work in FFx
18:02 jcamins I thought that was the desired behavior.
18:01 jcamins In that case, HTTPS isn't working.
18:01 maximep lol
18:01 jcamins Shane-S: wait, https wasn't supposed to show me Sonicwall?
18:01 jcamins Both work fine for me.
18:01 Shane-S maximep: if you are getting that, its the Sonicwall, so your aren't hitting my reverse proxy for the library server
18:01 maximep of course
18:01 maximep and is self signed... because it's the one from sonicwall
18:00 maximep *your
18:00 maximep youre certificate is for 192.168.168.168
18:00 Shane-S Chrome works for me http:// firefox keeps changing it to https and giving me an SSL error
18:00 Shane-S jcamins: can you try again, I get an SSL error now http://library.npelem.com then https://library.npelem.com
17:59 JoeLib001 When I ran git format-patch master it didn't do anything.
17:59 maximep not if you know what youre doing :P
17:59 jcamins But you do have to do a commit first.
17:59 jcamins Well, git commit -a is a little dangerous.
17:59 maximep you have to commit the changes before you can generate a patch
17:59 jcamins You have to do both.
17:58 JoeLib001 So, to create a patch file to attach to a bug, I should have used git format-patch master. Instead of running git commit -a?
17:58 jcamins git format-patch master will prepare patch files against master.
17:57 jcamins JoeLib001: git commit -a will commit *all* your changes.
17:56 JoeLib001 Am I supposed to run "git commit -a" or "git format-patch master" and not "git commit -a" and then "git format-patch master"?
17:56 jcamins Shane-S: did you exit FF? FF gets stuck occasionally with a stale error.
17:55 Shane-S for me it just kept changing the URL to https:// and saying failed connection
17:55 Shane-S k ty, now I have to figure out why
17:54 jcamins HTTPS requests that I log in to Sonicwall.
17:54 jcamins Shane-S: HTTP doesn't work at all for me, and it does not redirect.
17:53 Shane-S can anyone confirm it is doing that?
17:53 maximep that explains everything. Thanks!
17:53 jcamins maximep: the installer changes the placeholders to absolute paths.
17:52 maximep aaaaaaaaaaah ok
17:52 jcamins maximep: yes. The files in git do not use absolute paths.
17:52 Shane-S in FireFox when I go to http://library.npelem.com it is failing, and it changes for me to https://
17:52 jcamins maximep: and I can tell you with certainty that dates back at least to 3.0.
17:52 maximep you mean it writes them directly in the files ?
17:52 jcamins maximep: yes, I'm sure. The installer fills those variables in.
17:52 Shane-S can someone test something for me....
17:51 Shane-S rambutan: No
17:51 maximep weird
17:51 maximep are you sure ? hmmm maybe we hardcoded them ourself
17:50 jcamins There are very few absolute paths.
17:50 jcamins The .cfg files have always had __ZEBRA_LOCK_DIR__ and the like.
17:50 maximep didnt know that
17:50 maximep o_O
17:49 jcamins maximep: the installer is for updating too.
17:48 maximep I updated my instance, so didnt use the installer
17:48 maximep hmmm
17:48 jcamins maximep: no, those are set by the installer.
17:47 wajasu But Its Chris's Best Wish
17:47 maximep where do you define them
17:47 maximep I noticed the zebra .cfg in 3.8 now use variables like "__ZEBRA_LOCK_DIR__". Are those env variables ?
17:46 * jcamins got "But I Can't Be" then got stuck on the W.
17:45 bag heh I read that a bit different
17:43 wahanui BICBW is But I Could Be Wrong
17:43 jcamins BICBW?
17:42 wajasu ok
17:42 slef wajasu: IMO yes BICBW :)
17:42 wajasu if something FailedQA, but one of the patches doesn't apply now, can I change it to PatchDoesn't apply?
17:36 rambutan Shane-S: did you get an answer off main chat?
17:35 wajasu ok.
17:35 cait I fixed several problems and kept running into more
17:34 cait it will be too late
17:34 cait I will try to fix it tonight... if that doesn't work
17:34 cait but I am a bit stuck on it right now :(
17:34 cait wajasu: thx for the offer
17:32 wajasu cait: do you want me to test 8415 followup? does that address the neworderempty forcein on to create items? or will that be another bug?
17:31 tcohen having this syspref there is like having a button to break Koha
17:30 cait we normally don't hide them
17:30 cait I think adding a warning and make sure it's preset correctly should probalby work?
17:29 cait ah
17:29 cait not sure I can follow
17:29 cait I am sorry
17:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5333 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Undefined value stops import from z39.50
17:28 tcohen ok cait, so bug 5333 is still present, and people should be warned or the syspref set to a default and hidden, right?
17:27 cait marcelr was experimenting with a crosswalk
17:27 cait the formats are too different
17:27 cait no it won't work
17:25 tcohen looks like z3950NormalizeAuthor and z3950AuthorAuthFields break the import
17:25 tcohen does anyone know if using z39.l50 to get UNIMARC records into a MRC21 koha works?
17:04 Shane-S or even redirect them to back to http://
17:03 Shane-S I try chrome and it works fine, and I can't load it via https://IP in FFx, but http://IP works in FFx
17:03 Shane-S hi all, anyone know how I can make the server access https:// connections, firefox keeps change the URLs to https:// for people and they say the site isn't working
17:00 gaetan_B bye #koha !
16:59 gaetan_B anyway, time to stop complaining and go for diner :)
16:58 gaetan_B i'm finiding myself telling this library "well, you could change this .pm script. JUST DONT DO IT"
16:56 gaetan_B ah yes :d
16:56 jcamins gaetan_B: at least you were right... right? :)
16:56 gaetan_B :( well i don't have any constructive suggestions, sorry
16:55 cait gaetan_B: it's untranslatable :(
16:55 jcamins gaetan_B: very bad.
16:54 gaetan_B hey cait, tell me, what do you think of the translability of printed basket groups ? am i missing something or is it pretty bad ?
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16:02 libsysguy thanks oleonard
16:02 * oleonard consoles libsysguy
16:01 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @libsysguy: "#kohails I feel like the calendar re-write will never end"
16:01 nengard i do think that pref needs the wording changed a bit to make it clearer, which i can do once i read this and figure out what's going on
16:01 paul_p nengard Note that Restrictions on Access are recorded in 506 in MARC21. UNIMARC 333
16:01 nengard paul_p and oleonard, reading now
16:01 huginn 04Bug 7621: enhancement, P1 - high, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories
16:01 paul_p nengard = http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7621#c5
16:00 nengard it says 'FSK, PEGI ? what are those?
16:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7621 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories
16:00 oleonard nengard: Does the bug report help nengard? Bug 7621
16:00 paul_p nengard let me a second to find which one....
16:00 nengard any feild you want?
16:00 nengard yes ? which marc field?
16:00 paul_p nengard = the AgeRestrictionMarker is looking in a MARC field
15:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Add Course Reserves
15:59 paul_p pfffewwww... bug 8215 failed QA after a long & extensive testing !
15:59 nengard can someone tell me if AgeRestrictionMarker is looking for an item type? what are those values - it says 'marc field' but doesn't say which one
15:59 nengard I'm working on the manual today for all the new stuff pushed to 3.10
15:57 oleonard Use of uninitialized value $key in hash element at /usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 466, <IN> line 96457.
15:55 oleonard Wow am I doing something wrong? Tons of errors from running "perl translate install fr-CA"
15:52 mtompset But would you find Bo Jangles if you Bing Jing?
15:51 oleonard You could always Bing Jing instead
15:51 * mtompset waves. Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha.
15:51 mtompset wizzyrea: Yes, it is jing. I did a google search. I would say googled it, but I don't want them to be as powerful as a verb. ;)
15:47 mtj ok, nice one - ill have a look a bit later today
15:43 wajasu if that Bug-6030-follow-up patch can be made to apply, I'll sign off and we can get this back into QA hopefully.
15:42 wahanui i heard looks like it was a replicate of /usr/share/koha/misc
15:42 mtj looks like it
15:41 wajasu right ?
15:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6030 enhancement, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Failed QA , Allow for html in letters in overdue notices
15:41 wajasu mtj: you helped with bug 6030
15:39 wizzyrea or screencast or whatever it is now
15:39 wizzyrea JING.
15:39 wizzyrea Jing.
15:39 chris_n word_doc--
15:36 mtompset Ah, they don't know about alt+prtscrn. ;)
15:35 mtj … emails with huge 10mb .bmp screenshot files
15:32 mtj yeah yeah, i can understand why it happens… make a screenshot on winstupid has always been a bitch
15:32 mtompset What do you think of that idea, wajasu?
15:31 oleonard mtj I hate that one too but I'm also more forgiving because that's outside the normal arena of their work
15:30 mtompset Or even how to save a screen shot to a JPG using mspaint under Windows. ;)
15:29 mtompset They haven't learned about zip yet.
15:29 mtompset Because they only want to send you one file.
15:29 mtj oleonard, my favourite librarian peeve is the habit of embedding screenshots for bug reports… in a word doc?! :p
15:28 mtompset well, eval require, but you should get my meaning.
15:28 mtompset and then just require koha whatever it was?
15:28 mtompset Perhaps a push @INC,"$FindBin::Bin/..";
15:27 mtompset http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/require.html
15:26 mtj (i was planning to ask others if there was a copy/paste fix for it, already)
15:25 mtj i bumped into it a few days ago, and put it on the too-hard pile
15:25 mtj wajasu, im not sure about that perlcritic error either :/
15:20 jcamins Also, shifting projects become major problems because no one has mechanical erasers anymore, so locations aren't updated.
15:19 jcamins oleonard: yup.
15:17 oleonard Librarians who should know better?
15:17 oleonard Who walks away with cards from the catalog?
15:17 jcamins People walk away with the cards, and you're left with the knowledge that a particular book is in the collection, but no idea where it might be.
15:16 * jcamins remembers why card catalogs are awful.
15:13 wajasu mtompset: the last comment about "require" its using a string that uses $FindBin ... and its probably considerd bad practice.
15:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , User Configurable Slips
15:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8606 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Talking Tech broken by user-configurable slips feature
15:13 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8606 - Talking Tech broken by user-configurable slips feature - QA Followup
15:13 jenkins_koha * koha: Bug 8606 - Talking Tech broken by Bug 7001
15:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #852: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/852/
15:12 jcamins mtompset: last comment.
15:11 mtompset I don't see how the bug you listed links back to your $FindBin mess, wajasu
15:08 reiveune1 bye
15:03 wajasu yeah. future effort.
15:03 jcamins wajasu: I don't think you can avoid that.
15:03 oleonard mtompset: Yeah, but just wait til this email thing catches on.
15:02 mtompset Perhaps they don't know about forwarding, oleonard.
15:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8687 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Failed QA , Improvements in overdue_notices.pl
15:02 wajasu look at last comment in bug 8687
15:01 jcamins wajasu: why did that violate a perlcritic test?
15:01 mtompset Lord help them!
15:01 jcamins oleonard: awesome!
15:00 oleonard Quote from the meeting I was just at: "You want a copy of that email? Let me print it out and fax it to you."
15:00 wajasu i can't find an instance of how. no problem.
15:00 mtompset I would be interested in knowing the solution, but sorry, I do not either.
15:00 jcamins wajasu: I do not, sorry.
14:59 mtompset -- on windows, of course. ;)
14:59 mtompset Would you prefer them to send it in PDF with a CD that installs Adobe? ;)
14:59 wajasu does anyone know how one should code eval { require "$FindBin::Bin/../kohalib.pl" }; which is in all the .pl scripts? it violated a perlcritic test and paul_p suggested a bareword be used.
14:58 chris_n but its nothing a little perl script can't fix :-)
14:58 chris_n I was initially thinking of the fact that our telco provider insists on sending line studies to us in a M$ word format which is obliterated when imported into LO
14:57 mtompset Obviously, chris_n didn't fall too far down off the edge. ;)
14:57 chris_n actually that was about thumbing the nose at redmond
14:56 chris_n the edge... its all about the edge
14:56 mtompset It's not insanity. It's pushing the envelope.
14:56 * jcamins shakes his head at chris_n's insanity.
14:56 jcamins Actually, chris_n got it working.
14:55 mtompset ^of^if^
14:55 mtompset Sorry of that is a bad hot button to press.
14:55 mtompset You mean the latest version of Koha doesn't run under Windows. ;)
14:54 * chris_n finds it irritating that large corporations assume everyone does homage to M$
14:52 mtompset Okay... I am quite happy with the progress in styling I made tonight.
14:16 jcamins I see.
14:16 jcamins Ohhh.
14:15 tcohen (start, stop, restart, status, etC)
14:15 tcohen the one i pointed is an indexqueue daemon
14:15 tcohen no, that's the tool to reindex
14:12 jcamins tcohen: not misc/migration_tools/rebuild_solr.pl?
14:11 tcohen that was it jcamins
14:11 tcohen http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha;a=blob;f=misc/solr/IndexRecordQueue.pl;h=9f1b03ba538eeab80f8261c1b9b78d14d075732f;hb=2175b9241de5c7a66b94de2abc84f2eb9db2e83a
14:10 khall hdl, Adding Circualtion and Overdues modules in 2007
14:07 kf neat trick :)
14:06 jcamins git blame [that commit]^ -- [that file]
14:06 kf hm there should be history before that
14:06 jcamins Hm.
14:05 khall i did, the last time the lines were touched was in 2009 when joe atz perltidy'd it.
14:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #852 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
14:05 jcamins khall: I'd take a look at git blame, see if there's any hint what it was intended for.
14:04 khall git grep says it's not referenced anywhere else
14:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P1 - high, ---, mtj, ASSIGNED , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests
14:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8692 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Authorities search form does not correspond to current search query
14:04 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Revert "Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 2 perlcritic violations in C4/Installer/PerlModules.pm"
14:04 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8692: Authorities search form does not correspond to current search query
14:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #851: FIXED in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/851/
14:04 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
14:04 khall that's what I was thinking. Thanks for the second opinion ; )
14:04 jcamins Right.
14:04 kf but only if we are very sure it's notused please... tho with that name..
14:03 jcamins khall: I'd think it should be nuked from orbit.
14:03 khall if a subroutine exists in a C4 perl module, but is not used anywhere in Koha, what should be done with it? Delete it? Mark it as deprecated? The sub in question is C4::Overdues::CreateItemAccountLine. It doesn't even seem like it should belong in that pm.
14:03 wajasu how does one run perlcritic?
13:59 tcohen exactly
13:59 jcamins Wouldn't be very useful if we couldn't index solr-based catalogs. ;)
13:59 jcamins tcohen: there's a script in master, I think.
13:58 tcohen (biblibre git? or master?)
13:58 tcohen paul_p, do u remember where the SolR indexer script was?
13:53 * kf takes some and says thank you
13:53 * druthb gets out the Velcro, passes it around for everyone.
13:52 mtompset You missed the h. ;)
13:52 drojf weeeeeeeeeeee
13:52 mtompset That was a blip!
13:52 kf oh wow
13:50 magnuse a firewall sponsored by proprietary ils vendors?
13:42 jcamins Also the one I'm behind.
13:42 jcamins lol
13:42 drojf a firewall set up by bugs?
13:40 jcamins What sort of silly firewall blocks bugs.koha-community.org?
13:40 paul_p lol
13:34 kf lol
13:31 jcamins lol
13:31 magnuse momnet - the internet censored by your mom :-)
13:30 jcamins *moment
13:30 * jcamins will resquash in a momnet.
13:28 jcamins Oops, missed one patch in squashing 8276.
13:27 kf hi druthb
13:17 drojf paul_p: being born into a world full of deadlines, why not have your birthday be a deadline too lol
13:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add Course Reserves
13:17 * paul_p playing with bug 8215
13:17 magnuse ~15% in norway
13:17 paul_p drojf = some tend to do that to better manage their plannings :( :( :(
13:16 paul_p drojf = in some hospitals, fortunately not all !
13:16 drojf 30%? wow, i did not know that it is so much
13:15 paul_p drojf = maybe not even responsible for that (my wife is a mid-wife, in some french hospitals, more than 30% of births are medically started...)
13:15 NateC paul_p, actually it was me as a little spermie that won the race
13:15 drojf happy birthday NateC
13:14 paul_p NateC = happy birthday NateC !
13:14 drojf he's responsible for getting out on that date :D
13:14 druthb paul_p++
13:14 NateC magnuse: Thank you for the birthday wishes!
13:14 paul_p so... Hooray for your parents NateC ;-) (you're not responsible for being born ;-) )
13:14 NateC just call me gramps from now on
13:13 NateC heh awesome you got a head start on me!
13:13 magnuse paul_p: it's his birthday!
13:13 magnuse NateC: yeah, we have been celebrating for hours already :-)
13:13 paul_p NateC & Ma= why hooray for NateC ?
13:13 paul_p NateC = no more morning for us ;-)
13:12 NateC Morning magnuse!
13:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8606' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=050f932b3b579fb05b6ea6834441ae93ed935316> / Bug 8606 - Talking Tech broken by user-configurable slips feature - QA Followup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=74c5d1aed6aa9130ac3ae0de596a83b4ba598702> / Bug 8606 - Talking Tech broken by Bug 7001 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitw
13:10 magnuse hooray for NateC!
13:01 mtompset With oleonard's help, i have a working banner. Now to add the footer. :)
13:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 2 perlcritic violations in C4/Installer/PerlModul... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b69f7f7f0b98a7240cae0a66ef7c133044b8279> / Bug 8692: Authorities search form does not correspond to current search query <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dd2de85892b255627c28a046c847fd80412094c0>
13:01 magnuse mtompset++
13:00 mtompset I now am getting our system all nicely styled the proper way without modifying templates. YAY!
12:59 tcohen hi mtompset
12:59 mtompset greetings, tcohen.
12:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #851 for job Koha_master (previous build: NOW UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #848 4 hr 29 min ago)
12:55 paul_p oleonard yep. and he will be again in an hour, I hope ;-)
12:55 * oleonard is off to a meeting, back later
12:54 magnuse ohnoes
12:53 tcohen morning #koha
12:52 oleonard What did we have, a few hours during which Jenkins was happy?
12:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P1 - high, ---, mtj, ASSIGNED , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests
12:48 jenkins_koha Paul Poulain: Revert "Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 9 perlcritic violations in C4/TmplTokenType.pm"
12:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #850: NOW UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/850/
12:46 mtompset oleonard++ # all hail the UI king. ;)
12:41 magnuse 3.02.05.000 - oops
12:38 oleonard Hm, Equinox's "HEAD" demo (http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Demo_Databases) looks like it's a little behind
12:31 oleonard mtompset: "#main_auth #login" if you're on an unpatched system
12:30 TTG thnks gaetan_B
12:30 gaetan_B then when you have made a list of books you can export it in one of the profiles you defined (this implies making a list of these books in the interface) it might not fit your need but that's a solution. Otherwise you will need to map the marc field you want to a database field (make sure it's not used) but that could be tricky on a production system
12:29 mtompset Okay, I'll tweak it like that.
12:29 mtompset With my login_controls patch, that should become unique. ;)
12:29 gaetan_B TTG: you can set up the fields that you want to export in tools/CSV profiles (in the right column)
12:28 oleonard mtompset: before worked for me
12:28 oleonard mtompset: #doc is an ID used by the staff client's grid layout, it's not unique to that page
12:28 mtompset before or insertbefore?
12:28 oleonard $("#login").before("<div>Foo</div>");
12:27 mtompset Now whether #doc is unique to the login page is another problem.
12:27 mtompset I think I got it. Woo hoo!
12:26 mtompset put a banner at the top of the login page on the staff client.
12:26 TTG how do i use csv export profiles?
12:26 oleonard mtompset: Can you tell use exactly what you're trying to do?
12:25 gaetan_B TTG: if remainder of title is not mapped to a database field you will not be able to export it via reports
12:25 gaetan_B TTG: try using csv export profiles instead
12:25 oleonard At the end mtompset
12:24 mtompset Need to fix a ; first.
12:24 mtompset $(document).ready( function() { $('<blah>').insertBefore("#doc") ) )
12:24 mtj ^^ ah, ok - didnt see above … :)
12:23 mtompset I'm trying, but I don't know jquery.
12:23 mtj mtompset, use jquery
12:23 mtompset Hmm... firebug console says I forgot a ;... let me try again.
12:22 mtompset insert some HTML code without modifying a template file.
12:22 oleonard What are you trying to do mtompset?
12:22 TTG Hi.. I need to include "remainder of title" while generating booklist .. there is no option under build new report
12:22 mtompset Who here is a jquery user with some experience? I can't seem to get my jquery to work properly.
12:20 samuel khali: yes
12:20 khall updatedb needs to be run as root, i believe
12:20 samuel i've tried apt-get install libdatetime-perl
12:20 khall samuel, what do you get if you run "updatedb && locate DateTime.pm"?
12:20 mtompset How did you install it?
12:19 mtompset But how do you know you have the debian package installed for DateTime?
12:19 samuel mtompset: i've tried with deb package
12:19 khall jcamins, that is!
12:18 khall thanks for the help jamins!
12:18 mtompset Wow, it's busy tonight.
12:18 TTG Hi.. I need to include "remainder of title" while generating booklist .. there is no option under build new report
12:18 mtompset How do you know DateTime is installed?
12:17 khall vi doesn't find a match, so I think I need to submit a patch for word-phrase-utf.chr
12:16 khall I think I may have been barking up the wrong tree. ů̊̊̊̊̊̊̊̊ is in word-phrase-utf.chr, but the character I'm looking for is ů. They look the same or different depending on what program/editor I'm using
12:15 * jcamins heads into the city.
12:15 jcamins khall: I'm out of ideas, I think.
12:11 khall samuel, maybe your perl path isn't including them?
12:11 khall hi oleonard!
12:09 oleonard Hi #koha
12:09 khall jcamins, the letters 'icu' are nowhere in zebra-biblios.cfg
12:09 samuel DateTime 0 * 0.58 Yes
12:08 samuel i've a question for debian expert with koha. I am on an koha install on debian and when i do ./koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u, some modules are required but all of them are installed
12:07 jcamins Check in zebra-biblio[-dom].cfg. It will either say icuchains or... something else.
12:06 khall ICU is enabled in the system prefs, but I don't know how to check to see if it is *really* enabled. This is a new area for me.
12:06 jcamins ^^ that's kind of far out
12:06 jcamins In that case... maybe you already have ICU on and it is searching for "Martinu." and they have a lot of Romanian?
12:05 samuel hi to all
12:05 jcamins o.O
12:05 khall the keyword Martinu gives 35 results, whereas the keyword Martinů gives 145. That sounds like the inverse of what you are describing.
12:02 jcamins You're welcome.
12:02 jcamins (but I'd recommend running it in chunks on a production system)
12:01 khall jcamins, thanks again!
12:01 jcamins touch_all_biblios.pl should do the trick.
12:01 jcamins And the character is being treated as "u ".
12:01 khall I'm not sure, I'd have to check. Assuming that is true, what's the solution?
12:00 jcamins The records are not NFC-normalized.
12:00 jcamins khall: I bet I know what the issue is. Records downloaded from OCLC?
12:00 khall jcamins: thanks!
12:00 khall I have a library which is having trouble with the character ů. It's in etc/zebradb/etc/word-phrase-utf.chr so I'm not sure what the problem is.
11:58 jcamins khall: Ian wrote a guide which you should have somewhere in Google Docs, but I don't know of any public guide.
11:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8726 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Did you mean? plugin for broader/narrower/related terms
11:57 jcamins Bug 8726 is split into two.
11:57 khall hey all, are there any docs anywhere on how to make sure ICU is configured correctly for Koha? I'm not having much luck.
11:55 mtj paul_p, very pretty :) -> https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/commits/master
11:51 paul_p mtj = spring cleaning ? you must be wrong, it's automn cleaning :D :D
11:50 paul_p jenkins should not be breaked anymore...
11:48 mtompset I do think the js one happens on the login screen.
11:48 kf mtompset: hm I think maybe file a bug for that
11:48 mtompset Though the color stylesheet does.
11:48 mtompset Well, I discovered that the IntranetCSS does NOT happen for the login page.
11:47 mtj jcamins, all finished now… :)
11:47 kf depends on where it should go
11:47 kf you can add background images to elements
11:47 kf css maybe too
11:47 jcamins mtompset: jQuery.
11:46 mtompset Any ideas on how to add a banner at the top of the staff client login screen without tampering with the templates?
11:45 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
11:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #850 for job Koha_master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #848 3 hr 14 min ago)
11:41 jcamins Ah.
11:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 9 perlcritic violations in C4/TmplTokenType.pm" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fae4a914301d1ed72354401dbad5878799798a01>
11:40 mtj i accidentality pushed some of my dev branches to github, so i'm doing a mv/cp/clone task
11:40 jcamins No problem. I'm just curious what they are.
11:39 mtj i'm doing some 'spring-cleaning', sorry
11:39 jcamins_away (on github)
11:39 jcamins_away mtj: what are the new repos?
11:22 mtj … but you can just run mysql with that info, manually
11:22 mtj your missing config file tells mysql-restore what your db name is
11:21 gary_ ok, will do. thank you for the assistance. need to head to work now.
11:20 mtj (after you take a backup)
11:19 mtj gary_ , also try a simple…. $ mysql yourkoha < ./foo.sql
11:17 gary_ when I do koha-dump, what's the default directory the files are placed in? I'm looking through backups currently
11:16 magnuse and i forgot to say that was for gary_
11:16 magnuse i think
11:16 magnuse with something like koha-mysql myinstance mydumpfile.sql
11:15 magnuse so if you lost that one, i think you should do koha-create to create a new instance, and then load the sql file you have into the db for the instance you create
11:15 magnuse the configdump should have stuff like koha-conf.xml and thr apache config, i think
11:12 * drojf heads to the office
11:11 drojf if you got your biblio data but miss the configs there might be a default sql file that you can use, you would have to set up the configuration again. you should ask eythian maybe, i don't know how these files are organised. he is not here atm though
11:09 gary_ no, not zipped. I may have the files on the work computer... I'll have to check today, I may not have moved them home (I hope that's the case)
11:08 drojf is it gzipped? otherwise that sounds quite small to me
11:07 gary_ file size is 39.1M and should have about 7000 items in it if it's correct
11:05 drojf they can get huge
11:05 drojf or maybe check the size first
11:05 drojf you could open it with a text editor
11:04 gary_ not sure what's in it, how do I find out?
11:04 drojf i think they are both sql files
11:04 drojf i'm afraid it seems like you missed a file then. what is in your sql file?
11:04 gary_ so there should be a *.sql file and a *.conf or *.config file?
11:03 gary_ hmm, bad news for me then, I only seem to have one, when I did the initial dump it was 'koha-dump <instancename>' and I may have assumed only one file on the output
11:01 drojf i think you should have two sql files. one with the database and one with the configurations. you only have one in your command
11:01 gary_ do the instance names have to match?
11:00 gary_ yes. when I do 'koha-restore /home/bcpslib/Desktop/bcpsdump.sql' I get 'Usage: /usr/sbin/koha-restore sqldump configdump' and nothing appears to happen
10:59 drojf http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-restore
10:59 drojf that should be koha-restore
10:58 drojf ok so are using the package commands
10:57 gary_ I had used koha-dump on a previous ubuntu system for backup.. the system failed. I have a new koha system running and would like to restore the previous dump into it
10:56 drojf gary_: some more information perhaps? what exactly are you trying to do and what is the problem?
10:50 gary_ could someone help me with restoring a dump into a new koha installation? I'm a bit confused
10:42 mtj aah ok… was jenkins that went crazy , not huginn :/
10:38 huginn mtj: I suck
10:38 mtj huginn didnt go krazy, as i expected
10:37 kf I cheated, you shouldn't fall for that
10:37 kf lol
10:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P1 - high, ---, mtj, ASSIGNED , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests
10:37 mtj kf++ bug 6679
10:36 kf 6679? :P
10:36 mtj instant karma to anyone that mentions that bug number again :p
10:34 kf quite an impressive list
10:31 magnuse yay!
10:31 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - fix 3 perlcritic violations in C4/Auth.pm, and enabled warnings
10:31 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 2 perlcritic violations in C4/Print.pm
10:31 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 4 perlcritic violations in C4/Creators/PDF.pm
10:31 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 4 perlcritic violations in C4/Installer.pm
10:31 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 2 perlcritic violations in C4/BackgroundJob.pm
10:31 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 2 perlcritic violations in C4/Installer/PerlModules.pm
10:31 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 2 perlcritic violations in C4/ItemCirculationAlertPreference.pm
10:31 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 2 perlcritic violations in C4/Utils.pm
10:31 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 3 perlcritic violations in C4/Items.pm
10:31 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 3 perlcritic violations in C4/Message.pm
10:31 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 3 perlcritic violations in C4/Output.pm
10:30 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 3 perlcritic violations in C4/SQLHelper.pm
10:30 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 4 perlcritic violations in C4/Branch.pm
10:30 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 4 perlcritic violations in C4/ShelfBrowser.pm
10:30 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 5 perlcritic violations in C4/Serials.pm
10:30 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 6 perlcritic violations in C4/Barcodes/hbyymmincr.pm
10:30 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 7 perlcritic violations in C4/Biblio.pm
10:30 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 8 perlcritic violations in C4/Barcodes.pm
10:30 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 8 perlcritic violations in C4/Circulation.pm
10:30 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 9 perlcritic violations in C4/Koha.pm
10:30 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 9 perlcritic violations in C4/TmplTokenType.pm
10:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P1 - high, ---, mtj, ASSIGNED , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests
10:30 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 15 perlcritic violations in C4/ImportExportFramework.pm
10:30 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF]fixing 23 '"return" statement with explicit "undef"' violations in C4/Tags.pm
10:30 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 -[SIGNED-OFF] fix 12 perlcritic violations in C4/Context.pm
10:30 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 12 perlcritic violations in C4/Auth_with_ldap.pm
10:30 jenkins_koha * mtj: Bug 6679 - fix 12 perlcritic violations in C4/External/BakerTaylor.pm
10:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #849: FAILURE in 3 min 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/849/
10:30 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6679 - fix 3 perlcritic violations in C4/Auth.pm, and enabled warnings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=50759af6fe3a55e2acd2a3e89dbdc537a151c95e> / Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 2 perlcritic violations in C4/Print.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef22d9e26602de891a2d7d65e723666aae62d577> / Bug 6679 - [SIGNED-OFF] fix 4 perlcritic violations in C4/Creators/
10:29 mtj yay jenkins++, well done everyone :)
10:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #849 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
10:08 kf_mtg and back
10:08 kf_mtg yay :)
09:56 rangi yay!
09:54 paul_p (would have been fixed much earlier if I had spotted that dobrica had submitted a fix for the barcode test error... he forget to change the bug status, I missed the email, it was not in my radar. Just spotted it yesterday because I wanted to bump the problem...)
09:37 magnuse \o/
09:37 drojf w00t
09:37 magnuse woohoo!
09:37 paul_p yippie !!!
09:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Parcel closing in acq
09:34 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 5339 follow-up
09:34 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 5339: Unit tests for invoices related subroutines
09:34 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 5339: ergonomic changes
09:34 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 5339: Fix t/db_dependant/Acquisition.t
09:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #848: FIXED in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/848/
09:34 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
09:13 magnuse :-)
09:13 drojf magnuse: interactive rings a bell, thanks!
09:12 magnuse drojf: i find this useful: http://gitready.com/advanced/2009/02/10/squashing-commits-with-rebase.html
09:10 drojf how do i squash my last two commits together? i have done that once before but apparently not taken notes or can't find them :/
09:05 magnuse yeah, saw that but no time to investigate...
09:04 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Install_Koha_via_Chef_and_Vagrant
09:04 rangi speaking of which
09:04 rangi hehe
09:02 magnuse Jul 17, 2008 - more than 4 years!
09:02 magnuse "Dear all, I am a Norwegian librarian hacker, investigating the possibilities of offering Koha hosted on Amazon EC2 to Norwegian libraries." hehe
09:01 rangi http://koha.markmail.org/search/?q=#query:from%3A%22Magnus%20Enger%22%20list%3Anz.co.katipo.lists.koha+page:1+state:facets
09:00 rangi yep
09:00 magnuse 182? wow!
08:59 rangi and 62 to koha-devel
08:59 rangi magnuse has sent 182 mails to koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
08:58 rangi that url work?
08:58 rangi http://koha.markmail.org/search/?q=#query:from%3A%22Chris%20Cormack%22%20list%3Anz.co.katipo.lists.koha+page:1+state:facets
08:57 rangi i average 12 mails a month to the main koha list, for 12 years :)
08:56 rangi i ran some stats
08:56 magnuse yeah, you'd think so...
08:56 rangi ah well, someone else can answer
08:56 rangi maybe its from the vm image .. surely if they had checked out from git, they would remember it
08:54 magnuse sure!
08:52 rangi do they just put on a blindfold and randomly pick something and just install it
08:52 rangi how do people not know what they installed
08:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8679 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove usage of Amazon API
08:42 drojf paul_p: found it, it was because of bug 8679 that removed amazon API stuff so it's alright to delete
08:37 drojf it's all related to amazon, seems like that has been redone since i made my patch
08:34 drojf it is not in the file in master, so it should get out of my file too
08:31 drojf it has been there when i made the patch, i just look at the file in master now to see what happened to it
08:31 paul_p drojf = anyway, you must fix this manually, there's no rule.
08:31 paul_p drojf = this case is tricky... look at your initial patch (just the patch), check where the <a lot of stuff that does not belong to my patch> comes from ? (has it been added in the meantime ? deleted ?)
08:30 * magnuse crosses fingers
08:29 drojf i just take it that all after the === all that does not belong to my patch got deleted and it's safe for me to do that at rebase too?
08:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Failed QA , Show HTML5 video/ audio for media files in OPAC and staff client
08:29 drojf >>>>>>> Bug 8377
08:29 drojf <stuff that belongs to my patch>
08:29 drojf <a lot of stuff that does not belong to my patch>
08:29 drojf =======
08:29 drojf <nothing>
08:29 drojf <<<<<<< HEAD
08:29 drojf uh, wild rebase. if i have
08:28 paul_p keep finger crossed, jenkins should be back to stable...
08:27 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5339' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a42e5e6d3e21cfdd73554465229dd3801aacf017> / Bug 5339 follow-up <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=59c230e7fd91e2c37df12105fad3293f0533ab5c> / Bug 5339: Unit tests for invoices related subroutines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=766b267b154716b3ea42
08:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #848 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 17 days ago)
08:11 paul_p rangi = yep. I'm also testing other patches atm. A few small glitches (like "invoice is close" instead of "invoice is closed" ;-) ) and i'll push the 3 patches
08:11 drojf paul_p: cool, thanks
08:10 paul_p because the feature does not change at all.
08:10 paul_p drojf = in this case, back to signed off is OK
08:07 kf I would ask paul_p
08:07 drojf that was the plan
08:07 kf if you move to C4 as only change
08:07 kf hm
08:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Failed QA , Show HTML5 video/ audio for media files in OPAC and staff client
08:06 drojf bug 8377
08:05 kf which bug are we talking about?
08:05 kf sometimes paul notes something about th estatus
08:05 kf depends on the comment
08:05 drojf when a patch failed qa und i fix it, what's next? does it have to be signed off again or does it go back to qa?
08:03 drojf hi kf :)
08:02 kf morning drojf
08:00 drojf i think it's complicated because it's special
08:00 drojf llol. i knew exactly what you meant
08:00 rangi http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2012-September/034300.html
07:59 rangi what does that even mean?
07:59 rangi whoa
07:58 rangi hi drojf
07:57 drojf good morning #koha
07:57 kf finally :)
07:56 rangi we will be back to stable in master
07:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Parcel closing in acq
07:56 rangi paul_p: if you push the patch by julian on bug 5339
07:54 kf hi paul_p
07:53 rangi hi paul_p
07:52 paul_p good morning everybody
07:41 kf hi mbalmer
07:41 kf :)
07:41 wahanui hola, mbalmer
07:41 mbalmer hello
07:41 gaetan_B guten morgen :)
07:40 kf hi gaetan_B
07:40 kf wb rangi
07:20 gaetan_B hello
07:16 rangi wb kf
07:14 kf good morning #koha
07:13 rangi evening
07:02 matts hi !
06:43 magnuse hehe, o'reilly has an offer on books about R for the talk like a pirate day :-)
06:42 * cait waves too and leaves for work
06:42 * magnuse waves
06:36 wahanui bonjour, reiveune
06:36 reiveune hello
06:20 wahanui salut, alex_a
06:20 alex_a bonjour
06:07 cait :)
06:05 rangi There's no point doing this if we don't enjoy it
06:05 rangi And kept fun
06:04 rangi Included in release notes
06:04 rangi Yep
06:04 fredericd Somehow, assistant work has to be rewarded, formalized... There's so much willingness
05:56 rangi I think managers appointing assistants is a good idea fredericd
05:09 fredericd tcohen++ and Bernardo, for their work on manual translation
05:08 druthb Hi
05:08 cait hi druthb
05:08 cait hi fredericd :)
05:03 fredericd hello cait
04:42 mtj halcyonCorsair, ^^ yep, will do - chris was telling me about it last week :)
04:28 wajasu i guess i could try the same for the from and to addresses. but that will need to be a separate bug fix that might have a utf8 email address to test.
04:26 wajasu i see that we if we have utf8 diacritics in email notices we send, the subject and possible the from and to addresses look like mojibake. i found some double multiple encoding and got the subject to send it correctly.
03:03 wajasu it was just me :)
02:58 wajasu did koha zebra daemon get a LCK file recently? i'm getting some contention in my dev install. permissions. maybe it just me.
02:56 halcyonCorsair mtj: if you want to have a play with the stuff I blogged about and need troubleshooting / pointers, let me know
02:56 halcyonCorsair mtj: yo
02:45 Waylon altering a specific part of results, the change, pointless for others to use, is it best to alter the page via browser dom js scripting, or just alter the template and hope no one alters the same area, causing a conflict? (I am using git.)
02:43 miltsnz hey
02:42 Waylon hiya all
02:29 miltsnz is there an easy way around this?
02:29 miltsnz we have a koha OPAC which requires users to log in. We also want to be able to share an RSS feed of new items. However it seems that because the OPAC is authenticated, the RSS feed doesn't work?
02:28 miltsnz I have a quick question....
02:28 miltsnz Hi all
02:05 * wajasu doing overdues_notices testing now for 6030, so maybe folks can get html in their notices.
01:21 druthb o/
00:11 jcamins_away rangi, yeah, 7475 was pushed