Time Nick Message 00:42 wajasu i'm testing bug 8702 00:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8702 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , System preferences search does not allow accented letters 00:43 wajasu now i am trying to verify, so prepatch, i cataloged a record with Jürgen in the author, and ren zebrasrv -v all to see what its doing. 00:44 jcamins wajasu: bug 8702 has nothing to do with Zebra. 00:45 wajasu you are right its prefs. i'm braindead 00:57 wajasu prepatch i added Jürgen to a couple of places in syspref value fields. i search for it and don't get anything matching, but an info message that has a missing ü ( Jrgen ). i patch and i still don't match to anything. but i do get the full "Jürgen" in the info message. 00:57 wajasu so its not eating the data in the form. but the search/query might be suspect. 00:58 wajasu if it queries mysql db fields directly, maybe we need to NFC normalize the string to match. 00:59 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 00:59 wajasu hi 00:59 mtompset Greetings wajasu. Hope you didn't mind your nick being used in a bug report. :) 01:00 wajasu naw, its all over the place for signoffs 01:00 mtompset bug 8780 01:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8780 major, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Lower dependency version for DateTime::TimeZone 01:01 wajasu i could signoff. i've been downgrading and running with 1.20 since june. :) 01:02 mtompset "Given that Colin says it should be okay to lower it to 1.20, and that Wajasu has purposefully tweaked his out since June (almost 3 months), I propose we lower the minimum value to 1.20 from 1.26. This will make git installs under Debian attainable." 01:02 mtompset I noted that in the bug report. 01:03 wajasu i'll signoff in a few minutes. after what i'm working on. bug 8702 01:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8702 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , System preferences search does not allow accented letters 01:04 mtompset I wonder if it is related to the fact that libtext-unaccented-perl was not listed in debian.packages 01:05 wajasu i've been doing debian installs all day for tcohens patch, and i added libtext-unaccented-perl in my VM script. (installing koha-common wanted it) 01:06 mtompset bug 8784 01:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8784 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Missing files in debian.packages list 01:06 wajasu its not related. this has to do with a regex that strips chars at input. 01:07 mtompset Ah. 01:12 wajasu maybe you can help me understand id i can pass this patch. see what i irc'ed just before you logged on http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-09-19#i_1081185 01:12 mtompset Oh, I was just noticing line 298 on that patch for bug 8702... is it possible to trigger a search without searchfield being set? 01:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8702 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , System preferences search does not allow accented letters 01:14 mtompset Is it searching syspref values or syspref keys? 01:14 mtompset key (eg. IntranetFavicon) 01:15 wajasu thats the action that is sent in when one presses the search button. the preferences.pl support multiple commands onthe page, so the "op" is the differentiator. 01:15 wajasu i don't know what its searching (i though any text matching) 01:16 mtompset Try switching languages. 01:16 mtompset Find text in the descriptions which have an accented character. 01:17 mtompset Then search for it. 01:17 wajasu i know if i search for "subdivisions" it finds the entry with that in the value field. 01:17 wajasu good idea 01:18 wajasu now if i can. 01:18 wajasu i only have enlish on my staf IF 01:19 wajasu i might have to generate/translations 01:19 * mtompset nods. 01:19 wajasu or manually stick it in the db text :) 01:23 mtompset oh yuck. 01:23 mtompset Maybe. 01:24 wajasu i always document my testplan so QA can understand, and the original patch writer can cry wolf if i misunderstood what they needed. lets see. 01:36 wajasu I added "Jürgen" to the explanation column for ExportWithCsvProfile syspref. it didn't find it. maybe the search string needs to be NFC normailzed. lets see if i can find the query. 01:54 mtompset It would be much easier to switch languages. ;) 02:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #841 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 16 days ago) 02:09 * wajasu taking a break. 02:10 mtompset I'm just tweaking out stylesheets right now. 02:10 mtompset Need to make sure the color.css reflects our colour scheme properly. 02:19 mtompset That was a nice blip. 02:30 mtompset *ping* Anyone here now? :) 02:40 mtompset Greetings, ago43 02:47 ago43 hi, mtompset! 02:56 wajasu here still 03:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #841: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/841/ 03:28 halcyonCorsair rangi: yo 03:29 rangi heya 03:37 wajasu rangi: bug 8702 patch seems to enable one to pass "Jürgen" (things with accents/diacritics/utf8 for possible search and match in sysprefs search. i can see the information message doesn't drop the ü anymore. 03:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8702 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , System preferences search does not allow accented letters 03:38 wajasu but i wondered if the patch was to enable an actual match in "explanation" text. 03:38 wajasu nothing that fancy in the patch itself. but wouldn't that be the goal? 03:38 wajasu or do i need to switch languages 03:39 wajasu like mtompset suggested 03:39 rangi ive no idea, i didnt write that patch 03:39 wajasu i wish test plans were a requirement 03:39 mtompset I know there was an email saying people should include test plans. 03:40 mtompset In fact, I have now gone through the trouble of putting a test plan BEFORE I put the patch up. 03:40 melomind I'm looking for information regarding required hardware in order to set up KOHA for our small historical society library. Is this the proper forum for that? If not, could someone point me in the right direction? 03:40 rangi nothing is a requirement, we have guidelines though 03:40 rangi melomind: the mailing list is probably better 03:40 mtompset It's just considerate for testers and QA'rs. 03:41 melomind I'll check there. Thanks. 03:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #180 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 03:43 mtompset http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ tends to focus on software requirements. I think checking the list is the best idea. 03:49 halcyonCorsair rangi: http://halcyoncorsair.tumblr.com/post/31841813338/deploying-koha-from-git-with-chef 03:50 halcyonCorsair pt 1 03:50 halcyonCorsair now i need to mention it on the wiki somewhere I guess? 03:51 mtompset If it is a page about koha, wouldn't you want it ON the wiki? 03:51 * mtompset is just throwing the idea out there. 03:51 rangi halcyonCorsair: cool ;) 03:52 halcyonCorsair mtompset: sure, but I wanted to get it out there while it 'in progress', I'm travelling around a bit, so I do what I can when I can 03:52 halcyonCorsair installation? development sections? 03:53 mtompset This seems to be an advanced installation. 03:54 mtompset You may wish to run it by mtj the installation documentation manager. ;) 03:55 rangi id put it under dev 03:55 mtompset Hmmm... good point, you put it under installation and most people who aren't familiar with anything are going to start doing it. 03:55 rangi yep 03:56 mtompset Oh, and try to reword it to avoid keywords people might use for installation. ;) 04:03 halcyonCorsair A *very* quickly wikified page: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Install_Koha_via_Chef_and_Vagrant 04:03 halcyonCorsair err, i'll just adjust those categories 04:04 halcyonCorsair anyway, bedtime 04:04 halcyonCorsair feel free to leave me feedback, err, somehow ;) 04:07 mtj halcyonCorsair, /me love the bike stuff on yr blog :p 04:07 wajasu i figured it out. the language specific .pref files in koha-tmpl and that is the text that is matched against. So once I put an accented character I was able to match in the search for 8702. now i can signoff. 04:08 mtj ' …but am soon alone with the great metal beasts' :) 04:22 cait good morning #koha 04:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #180: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/180/ 04:45 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 7690: hidelostitems not working in Normal Display 04:45 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 8727 Minor stylistic change to help text 04:45 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8713 - Warning message triggered by clicking Keywords to MARC mapping 04:45 jenkins_koha * dcook: Bug 8765 - Add series title to intranet search results 04:45 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8765 follow-up replace tabs by spaces 04:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7690 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , hidelostitems not working in Normal Display 04:45 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 8336 Support Sip Renewal Transaction 04:45 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8336 follow-up, tabs to space 04:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8727 trivial, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Correct help text in rebuild_zebra_sliced.sh 04:45 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8275: xml parsing error when the webservice GetPatronInfo/show_loans is called 04:45 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 3782: Remove broken z39.50 targets from sample files 04:45 jenkins_koha * dcook: Bug 8717 - Wrong subscription notes are showing in catalogue detail view of serials in staff client 04:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8713 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Warning message triggered by clicking keyword to marc mapping. 04:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8765 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Add series title to intranet search results 04:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8336 major, P1 - high, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , SIP Server does not process renewal transaction correctly 04:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8275 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , xml parsing error when the webservice GetPatronInfo/show_loans is called 04:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3782 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , delivered z39.50 targets wrong for NY Public Library and NY University Library 04:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8717 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Wrong subscription notes are showing in catalogue detail view of serials in staff client 04:45 mtompset Sweet. It's always need to see a patch pushed through. :) 04:48 cait :) 04:48 cait it is 04:58 libsysguy cait you're back awake? 05:01 wajasu mtompset: just signed off on your 8780 05:03 mtompset wajasu++ # thanks for the sign off. 05:03 cait libsysguy: kind of 05:03 cait why are you still here? 05:04 * cait is still waking up :) 05:04 libsysguy I can't sleep 05:04 cait oh 05:04 libsysguy so I thought I'd work on my calendar patch 05:04 cait milk and honey? a really boring book? 05:04 cait oh or that :) 05:04 libsysguy heh yeah the calendar is kind of boring 05:04 cait I wnt to work on serials acquisition patches 05:05 libsysguy did that one patch from biblibre make it though 05:05 mtompset can we keep the datetime::BLAH dependencies to a minimum? ;) 05:05 cait there are 2 patches 05:05 libsysguy actually I just added some more mtompset 05:05 cait one needs the other to make the feature complete, took me a while to figure it out 05:05 libsysguy why do you not want them? 05:05 cait libsysguy: I think he means the version because that cuased some problems :) 05:05 libsysguy ohhh 05:06 libsysguy well I am introducing DateTime::Event::ICal 05:06 libsysguy for recurrence operations 05:06 libsysguy infinite recurrsions 05:08 libsysguy also DateTime::Format::ICal (maybe) 05:08 mtompset NOOOOOOOOOOOO! ;) 05:08 libsysguy I think i can remove that one actually 05:08 mtompset I already saw that. :) 05:08 libsysguy have you been peeking at my code mtompset ;) 05:08 mtompset It made it into PerlDependencies.pm 05:09 libsysguy yayy!! 05:09 mtompset Or something at least triggered an install of it. 05:09 mtompset Backing out DateTime perl libraries is a PAIN! 05:10 mtompset I ended up having to remove libxml-rss-perl as well to get them out. 05:10 libsysguy packages? 05:10 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 05:11 mtompset Yes, packages removing with dpkg -r. 05:11 libsysguy you should take that up with the package maintainer then :p 05:11 mtompset Yes, but I have a package user here. It's easier to shoot the messenger. ;) 05:13 * libsysguy recommends CPAN for all your versioned module needs :p 05:16 cait hi sophie_m - early! :) 05:16 sophie_m Hello cait 05:17 sophie_m At home, so no traffic ;-) 05:17 cait :) 05:19 * mtompset gives libsysguy the evil eye, "Don't joke about such vile things which prevent simplicity of upgrades." 05:21 libsysguy if you use cpan minus its almost as easy as apt :p 05:23 mtompset Let's just CPAN everything! ;) 05:24 libsysguy sometimes it just has to be done 05:24 libsysguy for old times sake 05:24 libsysguy just to make you really appreciate apt 05:28 * wajasu wonders if we can make a move to carton (with cpanfile support) and possibly a loclal::lib dependency deb package for each release. 05:29 * cait does a git pull - feels nice every single time 05:29 wajasu :) 05:30 cait ok 05:30 cait now it stopped feeling nice 05:30 cait Template process failed: file error - /home/katrin/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/de-DE/modules/installer/step3.tt: not found at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 132 05:30 cait ah, de-DE 05:31 libsysguy I have a question about repeatable_holidays 05:31 libsysguy does anybody have good data for the weekday selection bit 05:31 cait never mind, figured it out 05:31 libsysguy it looks like it is stored as an array 06:03 wajasu just saw that 4222. whoa! 06:08 cait bug 4222 06:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4222 major, P2, ---, srdjan, Failed QA , Nonpublic note not appearing in the staff client 06:08 cait wajasu: it got really close :( 06:08 cait wajasu: and we really should fix the FA framework 06:08 wajasu i mentioned it to my user, and he is storing spine labels in that field (i think). 06:11 wajasu whats up with FA? a bug in mind? I'm just scanning for things that failedQA that really need to make the freeze that might be resurrected. 06:16 cait wajasu: it's in the internal notes bug 06:16 cait wajasu: the fa framework still links to items.paidfor 06:16 cait which is bad 06:16 cait because we removed that link from all other frameworks, except that one 06:16 cait so it's an inconsistency in how the data is saved to the database 06:17 cait bah, and the stupid branch search is not working here :( 06:17 cait that was referring to what I am testing right now 06:18 mtj wajasu, re: carton i think it might be a great idea, for distros without packages, at least... 06:19 wajasu iINSTALL.otherdistro 06:19 alex_a1 bonjour 06:20 mtj … it looks like carton supports module versioning, thats its crucial feature 06:21 mtj carton would save sysadmins playing russian-roulette with pulling random modules from CPAN 06:22 wajasu i am testing an idea for BDD tests, and I might stick a cpanfile in there, so we can have test deps. to prove it out. then once folks like it, we can see if they want to mainstream it. 06:22 mtj … we could easily build a carton file, from koha's PerlDep.pm 06:23 mtompset ARG! There is no field validation on syspref entry of gist (at least). 06:23 wajasu my archlinux has cpanm, and i used that to bootstract carton. then after that all is roses. and metacpan is there. 06:23 mtompset I just typed "a" for the tax rate. 06:23 mtj then autogen the carton file before every Koha release 06:23 wajasu mtj: yes. 06:24 mtj sounds like a useful 'pet project' :) 06:25 * mtompset mutters, "Let's assume the user has a valid value and work from there." 06:26 mtj wajasu, afaik LL use carton (and perlbrew?) for their thing, so perhaps take a peek in their repo too 06:27 pastebot "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "carton test" (94 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/186 06:28 wajasu i did this a few minutes ago to see what it takes to build a .deb 06:29 wajasu i'm going to test perlbrew + carton to maybe get more isolated from the host OS. 06:30 wajasu what used to take me 4-5 hours, takes 5 minutes. 06:32 mtj its nice to think that carton could be the solution to a CPAN versioning problem, thats never been fixed for Koha :) 06:41 reiveune hello 06:43 mtompset BTW, I assume you saw my comment on your bug report, mtj? 06:45 mtj sorry, i havent checked today.. bug number? 06:46 cait *sigh* 06:46 cait ok, I won't finish this this morning 06:46 mtj … i get lots of bugs-emails everyday via QA stuff :/ 06:46 cait anyway... if someone wants to take a look at bug 8415 and bug 8456 - feedback appreciated 06:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8415 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Link Serial with Acquisition 06:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Capture the invoice number, price, date of a subscription 06:47 cait I would really really like to see that go into 3.10 06:47 cait hi matts 06:47 matts hi ! 06:47 cait :) 06:48 cait ok, time to leave - bbiab 06:53 mtj mtompset, your questions/suggestions are all good to me, (re: 8402 ?) 06:54 mtompset Right, I totally agree there needs to be a central point which regenerates things. 06:54 mtompset It will make things more consistent across the board. 06:55 mtj but, its a tricky general problem, lets fix it incrementally 06:55 mtompset Well, the format of debian/control is different than what is expected in debian.packages (or ubuntu.packages) 06:56 mtompset I think PerlDependencies.pm is the focal point. 06:56 mtj i agree 06:56 mtompset But perhaps that is wrong. Perhaps debian/control really is? 06:57 mtompset This is where the building folk should be able to make a good call. 06:57 mtj no, that file is debian specific?! 06:58 mtompset It may be... 06:58 mtompset But perhaps the problem is people think of the lib name rather than the perl lib name when extending. 06:59 mtompset Then question is ... does PerlDependencies.pm ever fall behind debian/control? 06:59 mtj … and um, contains no version info too 07:00 mtompset Perhaps the version information is an after thought added for compatibility when people use a different OS. 07:01 mtompset Back to patching those .packages files. ;) 07:02 mtj the goal is to generate perl deps from a *single* file, there are many ways to do it 07:02 mtompset Did you notice list-deps? 07:03 mtompset It's a perl version of what I scripted without knowing about it. 07:03 mtompset My shell script is a bit more functional. 07:04 mtompset Excuse me... my ride is here. 07:06 mtj hmm, i guess it is possible to use debian/control as the only dependancies file, too... 07:07 mbalmer @wunder nuremberg 07:07 huginn mbalmer: The current temperature in Sugarloaf Mountain, Sugarloaf, Pennsylvania is 13.6°C (3:04 AM EDT on September 19, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). 07:08 mbalmer @wunder nürnberg 07:08 huginn mbalmer: The current temperature in Fuerth, Fuerth, Germany is 11.3°C (9:00 AM CEST on September 19, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising). 07:09 mtj … but that just feels like a really complex and problematic way to do it, for no advantage 07:10 * mtj sticks that back on the too-hard pile 07:23 mtj mtompset, ive been thinking, there might be some advantages to using debian/control as the single dep file 07:25 mtompset The key problem is that in addition to perl library, koha requires other things (eg. MySQL, Apache) 07:25 mtompset debian/control would have those listed, but the difficulty is the naming convention across OS's may not be consistent. 07:26 mtj … it would give us the most conservative list of modules (and their minimum version) needed for a stable koha 07:27 mtompset That is true. 07:28 mtj a general dependancies file would need to be compiled from a debian-stable system, for every release 07:28 mtompset Compare the minimum versions against PerlDependencies.pm and we could check if the min_vers are really correct. 07:28 mtj yeah, thats it :) 07:28 mtj it would reveal/detect errors , like your date::timezone version bug 07:31 magnuse well this is weird: on one of my installations, when i go to cataloguing and choose the default framework it refuses to show. nothing in the logs and nothing in the firebug js console. other frameworks work fine and default framework works fine on other installations 07:33 mtj dump your good/bad frameworks to files and diff them 07:34 mtj .. then load them into the other system, and test again - any difference? 07:34 magnuse yeah, might have to do that 07:35 mtj ok, i gotta scoot now 07:36 magnuse have fun mtj 07:37 mtj thanks for the debian/control idea mtompset - i think it could be a good one 07:52 drojf good morning #koha 07:59 kf good morning #koha 07:59 mbalmer off to nuremberg 08:00 drojf hi kf 08:06 kf hi drojf 08:06 kf now I missed mb 08:06 kf good morning paul_p 08:07 drojf kf: nuremberg is not that far away ;) 08:19 * mtompset likes git blame. 08:20 mtompset Now I can know that paul_p didn't thoroughly test last year. ;) 08:20 paul_p mtompset ? 08:20 wahanui mtompset is probably trying to do a variety of projects in less than three months! 08:20 * mtompset grins. 08:20 mtompset I'm looking at acqui/basket.pl 08:21 mtompset there is an if ($gist) line. 08:21 mtompset it belongs to you. 08:21 mtompset So I'm assuming that you didn't check the error logs for uninitialized variable warnings. :) 08:21 mtompset nothing terrible. 08:22 mtompset Just error log floody. 08:24 kf ah I ran into that this morning 08:24 kf neworderempty does that too 08:24 mtompset oh wait... used the git blame wrong... it's Jean-Andre Santoni. 08:24 mtompset He added the lines which trigger the errors. 08:24 mtompset Anyways... I'm going to patch that up now. 08:25 kf paul_p: do you think thre is a chance Joubu could take a look at bug 8456? 08:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Capture the invoice number, price, date of a subscription 08:25 mtompset Sorry, I was wrong, paul_p. :) 08:26 kf paul_p: I would really like to see the ordering of serials being improved for 3.10 - and we are close 08:27 kf Amit did rebase some of biblibre's patches and I fixed some problems in bug 8415, but the part that is missing is for the ordering forms now 08:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8415 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Link Serial with Acquisition 08:28 mtompset Is any of that going to affect basket.pl? 08:29 kf hm 08:29 kf I think it adds a link there 08:29 kf look at the patch for the latter bug 08:45 kf magnuse: around? :) 08:46 magnuse yup 08:46 kf bug 8558 :) 08:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8558 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Better confirmation message for importing frameworks 08:47 kf maybe we should mark mine or yours duplicate? 08:47 kf I thought it was annoying that it warns but doesn't tell which framework I am going to overlay 08:48 magnuse i'll mark mine as a duplicate 08:48 kf and good morning .) 08:48 magnuse yeah, kia ora! 08:49 magnuse done 08:50 kf :) 08:50 kf now we only have to find someone for fixing it :P 08:50 magnuse hmf. default framework does not display. i export it, create a new framework, import the default into that and it displays without any problems! 08:50 magnuse kf: yeah! 08:50 kf oh 08:51 kf I never tried witht he defualt framework 08:51 kf only with others 08:51 magnuse my current problem is not related to 8558... 08:51 magnuse i have trouble displaying a default framework when i try to catalogue 08:54 kf nothing in the logs? 08:55 magnuse nothing useful 08:56 magnuse complaints about some missing yui files, but i get the same complaints for the frameworks that do work 08:56 kf annoying 08:56 kf js error? 08:57 magnuse not really 08:58 magnuse but there is a small difference... 09:01 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Default framework not shown" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/187 09:01 mtompset oh... 3.8.4 package was missing a directory that the 3.8.4 tarball had. 09:02 mtompset Yep. That's the problem. 09:02 mtompset download the tarball, and paste those suckers in place. 09:02 magnuse but it works for other installations running off the same package install... 09:03 mtompset because they upgraded? 09:03 mtompset the fresh install has that problem. 09:03 magnuse no, i have several instances running off one package install, and they behave differently 09:04 magnuse on the same server 09:04 mtompset I don't understand multiple instances. 09:05 mtompset Do they share the /usr/share/koha/intranet and opac, etc. directories? 09:05 magnuse yup 09:05 mtompset And are these instances the same version? 09:05 magnuse i did "koha-create a" and "koha-create b" on the same server - now a has the problem and b does not 09:06 magnuse that would lead me to think it is a data problem, more than a code problem... 09:06 mtompset does the plugin directory exist? 09:07 magnuse lemme check 09:07 mtompset There could be a syspref that turns off dependency on that. 09:07 mtompset (I'm guessing) 09:08 mtompset Oh, and it is plugins. My bad. :) 09:09 magnuse nope, no plugins dir in /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/ 09:09 mtompset not opac, intranet. 09:10 magnuse um, oops :-) 09:10 magnuse nope, no plugins in /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/ either 09:11 mtompset If you have a git, you'll notice it is there. 09:11 mtompset If you grab a tarball, you'll notice it is there. 09:12 mtompset I don't know why it doesn't error for one, but the other. Stale CSS? 09:12 mtompset But you probably should grab that dir and whack it into place. 09:16 magnuse i just did. it fixed the js errors (and a nice "loading" widget is displayed), but the Default framework is still not displayed (but the copy of it is) 09:16 magnuse is there a bug for that missing plugins dir, btw? 09:17 kf hmdon't remember one 09:17 magnuse bug 5024 09:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5024 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Debian packages don't include YUI plugins 09:18 magnuse Reported: 2010-07-16 09:18 wahanui 1987 09:18 magnuse oops :-) 09:18 magnuse thanks wahanui, that's good to know 09:19 * magnuse gives eythian a nudge 09:19 mtompset magnuse: it was probably just a packaging problem. 09:19 mtompset Yes, let's all point at eythian. ;) 09:19 eythian give me more hours in a day instead maybe :) 09:19 magnuse hehe 09:20 magnuse s/nudge/friendly, non-stressful nudge/ 09:25 kf hi eythian 09:25 eythian hi 09:25 kf we were just talking about you 09:25 kf coworker back from vacation asking about the workshop :) 09:25 eythian heh OK 09:25 kf btw the printers still hate me... 09:26 eythian http://youtu.be/g_hF_RhD-xE <-- kf 09:31 * mtompset laughs, "Yes, that is extreme printer hate." 09:31 * kf hi 09:31 * kf thinks it's very reasonable behaviour 09:33 * mtompset laughs. 09:33 mtompset Not if you are the one paying for the printer. 09:35 mtompset ARG! son loosened internet cable again. 09:36 eythian electrify the outside? 09:36 mtompset I need a better layout, so he can't do that. 09:45 drojf heh that video shows pretty much what i did to my epson "i know you never print in colour, but colour is empty again and why would i let you print black when colour is empty?" inkjet printer after i bought a bw laser printer 09:50 mtompset okay, improved a little. 09:51 kf hm 09:51 kf wondering 09:51 kf do we have to teach the translation scripts about the new mobile theme? 09:51 mtompset That's a jcamins problem. ;) 09:51 mtompset Well, jcamins_away problem. :) 09:53 kf well 09:53 kf a lot of people want this to go in 09:53 mtompset What does a "warning: 1 line adds whitespace errors." mean? 09:53 kf that there is white space where it shouldn't be 09:54 kf at the end of a line for example 09:54 kf whitespace? 09:54 wahanui whitespace is probably http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2011/12/15/fixing-whitespace-when-apply-patches-with-git/ 09:54 kf there 09:55 mtompset kf++ #thanks for the link. 09:55 kf it's very useful 09:59 mtompset I'll reset my 3.8.x and see if the patch applies back to it. 10:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8597' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=659a4aab574e77e65d8e0eb604763f832a5c0574> / Bug 8597 follow-up translation issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=81ba4ca9793501f79d320f3d9e6251c5292ca3d3> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8597' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3847 10:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #842 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 16 days ago) 10:13 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7751 follow-up adding updatedatabase for sysprefs decreateLoanHighHolds* <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7aff89ebff30fa7f0973b00922a81f9b3b687935> 10:18 kf paul_p++ 10:32 mtompset things are getting pushed like crazy. 10:45 kf we are close to the deadline 11:10 mtompset okay... bug 8788 logged and loaded. 11:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8788 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Viewing basket for acquisitions triggers error log entries. 11:10 koyauni hi guys, is there anyway you can attach an eSoruce to its records, 11:10 jcamins_away kf: nope. 11:10 koyauni is filed 856 for this propose 11:10 kf jcamins_away: ? 11:11 mtompset I think jcamins_away meant no to koyauni 11:11 mtompset And yes, I believe that is what 856 is for. 11:11 koyauni ohh, so the NO is mine, and there no way 11:11 jcamins_away mtompset: no, I meant "no, we don't need to teach the translation scripts about the new field." 11:11 jcamins_away *theme 11:11 mtompset Ah... okay, delayed response. Cluing in. :) 11:12 mtompset how do you spell clue-ing? 11:12 jcamins_away koyauni: yes, that's what field 856 is for. 11:12 kf jcamins_away: so you tested? :) 11:13 jcamins_away kf: I did. I'll test again, though. 11:13 * mtompset let's out his breath, "WHEW!" 11:13 jcamins_away There is the possibility that we *do* need to teach the translator, and what I determined was that it was easy to fix. 11:13 mtompset kf, you should know jcamins_away is a test freak. ;) 11:14 kf jcamins: something in the back of my mind said: maybe add another path 11:14 mtompset Speaking of tests, jcamins. I almost felt the urge to write something with www::mechanize. 11:14 kf but I haven't tested, I added a note so I wouldn't forget 11:15 mtompset But I'd thought I'd ask you for some reference/example. 11:15 jcamins kf: something in the back of my mind said "but you added another path," after I answered your question. 11:15 jcamins mtompset: bug 8300 11:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Koha should have mechanized testing suite 11:16 kf jcamins: lol - so who is sitting in the other's mind whispering now? 11:16 koyauni I put data in 856 but it does nto show up in dtail view 11:16 kf which fields did you use? 11:17 kf subfields I mean 11:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #842: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/842/ 11:18 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 5339: Invoices management improvement 11:18 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 5339: perltidy on added files 11:18 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 5339 follow-up DBRev 11:18 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8597 follow-up: add missing lib files 11:18 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8597 follow-up translation issues 11:18 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7751 follow-up adding updatedatabase for sysprefs decreateLoanHighHolds* 11:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Parcel closing in acq 11:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view 11:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7751 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Master , Decrease loan period on items with a high number of holds 11:23 magnuse looks like a memcached restart solved my problem with the default framework - corrupted cache, perhaps? 11:25 mtompset I don't have anything memcached, but the next unlogged bug I was going to look at seemed related to $framework not being defined. 11:25 mtompset jcamins: It says => for the Tests::More... I can't see where the tests are? 11:27 mtompset There's 20 tests in there? 11:28 jcamins mtompset: Test::WWW:Mechanize. 11:28 jcamins It does tests. 11:28 mtompset So each $agent-> is a test? 11:30 jcamins Some are, some aren't. 11:30 jcamins The perldoc for Test::WWW::Mechanize lists all the possible tests. 11:31 mtompset Okay. 11:31 mtompset Dumb question. What if I don't know how many tests it will do? 11:31 mtompset (eg. write some sort of looping click mess) 11:32 jcamins Put done_testing; at the end, and don't give a number of tests at the beginning. 11:33 mtompset Sweet... sounds like I could have a click-happy testing run. 11:33 mtj 'There are cases when you will not know beforehand how many tests your script is going to run. In this case, you can declare your tests at the end.' 11:33 mtj http://search.cpan.org/~mschwern/Test-Simple-0.98/lib/Test/More.pm 11:39 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @esilibrary: "North Central Michigan College Live on Koha! http://t.co/Lsbkeiy7 #kohails" 11:39 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @jngumba: ""@kohails: #kohails Koha: The World’s First Truly Sustainable ILS http://t.co/aWyheyRO" the reason am where I am today" 11:39 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Koha: The World’s First Truly Sustainable ILS http://t.co/ITbAekMz" 11:39 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Koha: The World’s First Truly Sustainable ILS http://t.co/2rcg8yoS #kohails" 11:39 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails The Urban School of San Francisco’s Herbst Library Goes Live on Koha with ByWater… http://t.co/XSt3zq8B" 11:39 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "The Urban School of San Francisco’s Herbst Library Goes Live on Koha with ByWater… http://t.co/eDB0L3CE #kohails" 11:40 * mtompset sighs. Is there a default framework setting somewhere in Koha? 11:42 mtj afaik, no, its on a todo list somewhere 11:42 mtj if you goof the frameworks, just drop/load them again from the shell 11:43 mtompset The reason I ask is because of z3950_search.pl 11:43 mtompset The script is called without a framework code. 11:44 mtompset Then it tries to go out to whereever and finds nothing matches, because there's no framework code. 11:44 mtompset all the while spamming the error logs. 11:45 jcamins mtompset: the default framework doesn't have a framework code. 11:45 jcamins You probably just want to put ||= '' somewhere. 11:46 mtompset Okay, so " || q{}" 11:47 jcamins That'd be my guess. 11:52 mtompset I think I'll jump back to my backup project. My brain is fried. 11:52 mtompset I really hate finding a two bugs in close vicinity. 11:52 jcamins Bug 8633. 11:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8633 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Translate script hardcoded to prog template 11:53 jcamins We do need to add ccsr. 11:53 jcamins I'd forgotten that fredericd objected to it. 11:54 fredericd jcamins: hello! 11:54 jcamins fredericd: hello. :) 11:55 fredericd Chris reply is fine for me. 11:55 fredericd Do you have a patch? Do you want one from me? 11:56 jcamins fredericd: I do not have a general patch. If you are able to write a patch, I would trust it a lot more than I would trust what I can come up with. ;) 11:57 * fredericd was reading that yesterday: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/C_&_P_Search_Rewrite_RFC 11:57 fredericd impressive 11:57 jcamins fredericd: I think you mean "crazy" :P 11:57 mtompset All hail the background indexing king. :) 11:57 fredericd :-) 12:00 mtompset Nice to see you say something on the channel while I'm here, fredericd. :) 12:01 mtompset Anyways, I'm off. I have some database splitting to do. 12:01 mtompset Good day (24 hour period) everyone. 12:15 jcamins I guess it's morning. 12:15 jcamins (the cat wants breakfast) 12:16 kf :) 12:18 jcamins Now he is contemplating my degrees. 12:21 oleonard Hi #koha 12:23 kf hi oleonard 12:23 * kf thinks 3.10 is shaping up nicely 12:23 kf lots of cool features waiting to be explored and documented 12:23 kf and tested tested tested during the feature freeze 12:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #843 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 16 days ago) 12:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7993' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=884c8a2b7cceeb13b2478ecd9b941a5ddec6470f> / Bug 7993 follow-up to fix POD DOC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6bc91ace59e4b2f2c72984e93bae644c6333c524> 12:28 magnuse kf: yeah, that would be a good time to write automated tests ala bug 8300 12:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Koha should have mechanized testing suite 12:29 jcamins It's *always* a good time to write mechanized tests. 12:29 * druthb sneaks in 12:29 kf hi druthb 12:32 * jcamins waves. 12:33 magnuse \o/ 12:33 magnuse jcamins: true, of course! ;-) 12:46 fredericd druthb++ (as translation manager) 12:46 kf fredericd++ for being a great translation manager 12:47 druthb :) Thanks, fredericd. I'm looking forward to it. You've done a great job; those are big shoes for me to fill. 12:47 druthb fredericd++ 12:47 druthb Just need to figure out what needs handing off, and how, at some point. 12:48 fredericd druthb: You can count on me for the transition 12:49 druthb I'm planning to have a new Pootle server spun up in the next week or two, ready to go. Other than that, any prep work I should be doin'? 12:51 * oleonard cheers druthb 12:51 fredericd Not much more. When you're ready drop me a line: I will document my workflow on the Koha wiki, and give you a script I use to automatize conversion between Koha language naming convetion and Pootle one 12:52 druthb Excellent! Thanks! 12:53 kf druthb++ and fredericd++ :) 12:54 magnuse yeah! druthb++ and fredericd++ 12:56 koyauni do you know any good software to cat number process please 13:09 * paul_p head to bug 2060 ... 13:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client 13:10 paul_p fredericd = as you're around, I need help to test bug 7421 !!! 13:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7421 enhancement, P4, ---, frederic, Passed QA , UNIMARC authorities DOM indexing mode 13:15 fredericd paul_p: vu 13:16 * paul_p retreat from bug 2060, as it does not apply :( 13:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Patch doesn't apply , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client 13:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #843: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/843/ 13:33 jenkins_koha Paul Poulain: Bug 7993 follow-up to fix POD DOC 13:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , saved report with hierarchies 13:35 kf paul_p: oh :( and jcamins_away just left 13:42 paul_p OK, ladies & men, the "passed QA" queue is empty ! (the 8215 and 7421 being waiting for answers or actions) 13:43 kf paul_p++ :) 13:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8624: Move famfamfam out of theme directory <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b5a5224e6e94e389fa358ab719d007825563d3d> / Bug 6689 [Follow-up] Improve styling of table pager <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f34e90f7685b57bc8478e416e97862684865d138> / Bug 7401 - Shelving Location facet <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=881ee1b1a 13:53 kf hm 13:53 kf hmm 13:53 kf the mail from Seth Mayo on the list--- I had that happening in my dev installation 13:54 mveron Hi #koha 13:54 kf hi mveron 13:55 * mveron waves to kf 13:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #844 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 16 days ago) 14:03 jcamins_away paul_p: rebasing 2060 now. 14:12 jcamins_away paul_p: sorry, not anymore! :P 14:12 samuel hi everybody 14:12 jcamins That said, paul_p++ 14:12 samuel what does it mean a message like this 16:07:54-19/09 zebraidx(4197) [warn] Cannot access path /tmp/7HwXhpGqlW/biblio [No such file or directory] -->i've just seen that in my log 14:14 jcamins samuel: most likely it means that either A) you don't have any bib records or B) your Koha user doesn't have permissions to write to /tmp 14:15 tcohen greetings #koha 14:16 jcamins Greetings, tcohen. 14:17 kf wb drojf 14:17 drojf hello again :) 14:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6448' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=be12aa96094ab003949c78e8246db56027931cac> / Bug 6448 - carp on invalid barcode <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8f2dcc6741660b38a5ab9d015a018d494f063843> / Bug 8185: Change some more strings from Italian to English <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h 14:27 kf hm 14:27 kf does someone know to which feature the tables collections and collections_tracking belong? 14:27 kf I can't remember seeing htem in a database before 14:29 jcamins Rotating collections. 14:29 kf oh 14:29 jcamins Dead code? 14:29 kf why do we have the tables? 14:29 kf yeah - but it's only hidden, it's still there in Koha 14:29 jcamins Ah. I guess that's why we still have the tables. 14:38 tcohen can't we just delete that zebraqueue_daemon.pl so I don't hear about for the rest of my life? 14:39 kf tcohen: I would think we can 14:39 kf isn't there a bug even? hmm 14:40 jcamins Replace it with something that puts a message in syslog: "You were using zebraqueue_daemon. Go set up your cron jobs." 14:42 tcohen or "Use koha-index-daemon (from Koha::Contrib::Tamil) instead"? 14:43 jcamins Or that. 14:54 libsysguy https://twitter.com/libsysguy/status/248433711920586753 14:55 libsysguy https://twitter.com/libsysguy/status/248433862319931394 14:55 jcamins Bet NateC is jealous. 14:59 kf NateC? 14:59 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE 14:59 drojf lol 15:00 santy Hi everybody! Say you have an ubuntu ext4 500GB LVM filesystem just for koha 3.8... what would you recommend sizewise for this partitions: / (containing bin, sbin, dev and root), /usr, /var, /boot, /home, /opt and /tmp? 15:01 jcamins santy: lots of space for /var 15:01 jcamins santy: but I don't have exact numbers 15:02 santy for tmp too?... yesterday I noticed that zebra indexing quite uses tmp 15:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #844: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/844/ 15:03 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7401 - Shelving Location facet 15:03 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 6689 [Follow-up] Improve styling of table pager 15:03 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8624: Move famfamfam out of theme directory 15:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Shelving Location facet instead of Branch facet when only 1 branch configured 15:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6689 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve styling of table pager 15:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8624 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , famfamfam should be outside theme directory 15:03 jcamins A fair amount of space for /tmp is a good idea, but there is an upper boundary for that- twice the size of the MARC records in your catalog converted to XML. 15:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #845 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 16 days ago) 15:04 jcamins There's no upper limit, really, on /var. 15:06 tcohen you can always put all the available space for /var and make a symlink /tmp -> /var/tmp 15:06 jcamins (though I wouldn't consider it *likely* that you're going to need more than... 80GB?) 15:06 jcamins tcohen++ # for being clever 15:06 jcamins paul_p: I rebased bug 2060. 15:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client 15:07 santy ok, do you have an estimate for an average marc21 xml record size? 1K? 15:07 reiveune bye 15:08 jcamins santy: I do not, but that sounds reasonable. Double it to 2 because space is cheap? 15:08 santy ok 15:08 tcohen 50GB for / should be more than enough 15:08 santy there will probably be 500k records 15:09 tcohen /dev/xvda1 20G 15G 3.9G 80% / 15:09 santy at most 15:09 tcohen /dev/xvdc1 78G 29G 46G 39% /var 15:09 tcohen (mysql is on a sepatare server in our setup) 15:09 santy mysql will be on the same machine 15:09 tcohen Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on 15:11 tcohen what I mean to say is that 50GB for /, some GB for swap and the rest for /var 15:11 tcohen will be ok 15:11 jcamins I think I have 8GB for / and 20GB for /usr 15:14 wajasu note: /tmp is sometimes a tmpfs or shm in RAM , and in some distros(VPSes and such) is cleaned at reboot. /var/tmp should be large and is not usually/supposed to be auto cleaned at reboot. 15:14 tcohen jcamins, in recent 3.8.x i found that this was added to koha-conf.xml 15:14 tcohen <zebra_bib_index_mode>dom</zebra_bib_index_mode> 15:14 tcohen <zebra_auth_index_mode>dom</zebra_auth_index_mode> 15:15 tcohen (dom/grs1) who uses that? 15:15 jcamins tcohen: yes, DOM was pushed to 3.8.2 15:15 tcohen i actually dont have that in my production servers 15:15 tcohen so i guess i'm using grs1 15:15 jcamins Yes, they're using grs1. 15:15 santy is tmp cleaning at reboot desirable/undesirable/inconsecuential for koha 15:15 jcamins Any installations pre-DOM will remain GRS1. 15:16 jcamins santy: it doesn't make a difference, since nothing important is stored in /tmp. 15:16 jcamins That said, you'll reboot so infrequently that you won't notice. 15:16 tcohen may I encounter problems if updating my .conf files and reindex? 15:16 jcamins tcohen: you'll need the new Zebra config files as well. 15:17 jcamins Once you have them, all you need to do is set the index modes to DOM, and point Zebra at the *-dom.cfg files. 15:21 paul_p jcamins yeahhh !!! bug 2060 works nicely !!! 15:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client 15:21 paul_p (in UNIMARC, with diacritics, and all that sort of things !!!) 15:21 jcamins Woohoo! 15:22 paul_p Lycée d'état, Besançon, ... 15:22 jcamins paul_p: and now that you have it working, aren't you amazed that you survived years without the ability to import authorities from the staff client? 15:22 paul_p jcamins frankly ? not at all :D 15:22 paul_p I think I could have lived for years without this feature :D :D 15:23 paul_p (speaking personnally, not as library support provider) 15:23 jcamins paul_p: heh. Well, *I* have long missed this feature. :P 15:24 wajasu is it getting about time to regen a new http://schema.koha-community.org/index.html, or will that happen after 3.10. I use it for reference alot. 15:24 jcamins wajasu: probably it is. 15:25 tcohen feature freeze may be the time to do it 15:25 wajasu yeah, thats what I thought. 15:27 wajasu when i ran a DBIx schema loader tool, it complains about some belongs_to/has_many column that is nullable. 15:30 wajasu kf: 8415 - do you just need signoff on the followup? do you want me to investigate how we may create an order without being force to create items? 15:37 * oleonard grumbles that the rotating collections code should be removed since it never worked properly and has never been updated 15:37 * jcamins doesn't know what it is, but thinks you're probably right. 15:41 oleonard Anyone else care to comment on Bug 8570? 15:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8570 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Signed Off , Add pagination to the Z39.50 results page 15:42 * jcamins defers to you on this. 15:46 jcamins I am comfortable with it being included on the basis of your signoff, provided the code passes QA. 15:48 oleonard *sigh* a productive morning-killing meeting is still a morning-killing meeting. 15:53 wajasu whenever i do a z3950 search i get a popup with search fields and servers. fine. but after i search, the results popup/form has a table and the links on the right are always cut off (I have to resize to click import) is that desired? or should i add an enhancement bug? 15:53 oleonard wajasu: You can't accurately predict the size the table will need 15:53 jcamins wajasu: that's why you can click anywhere in the table to bring the links up. 15:56 wajasu oooh! an easter egg popup link navigator. 15:59 wajasu that suffices. since so many results are high, i just thought moving the links to be stacked in the first column would work. but this works. 16:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #845: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/845/ 16:10 jenkins_koha * tajoli: Bug 8185: plugin for linking records in MARC21 16:10 jenkins_koha * mirko: Bug 8185: Change some more strings from Italian to English 16:10 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 6448 - carp on invalid barcode 16:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8185 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tajoli, Pushed to Master , Plugin for linking records in MARC21 16:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6448 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , EAN-13 barcode support 16:15 tcohen jcamins, sorry to bother you again with this, i'm not moving to DOM right now 16:15 tcohen but, the absence of those new entries in koha-conf.xml, could break things? 16:15 tcohen I mean <zebra_bib_index_mode>dom</zebra_bib_index_mode> 16:16 jcamins tcohen: nope. It defaults to grs-1. 16:16 tcohen ok, thanks 16:23 * drojf wonders how one accidentally deletes all usernames and passwords of all staff users 16:23 rambutan too much power in the wrong hands 16:24 drojf hm and the university vpn does not allow me to send an email to the koha list. sorry claudio 16:27 cait drojf: there is probably nothing that can be done... to recover 16:27 drojf cait: db user 16:27 cait yeah, to get in 16:28 drojf and set new passwordss 16:28 cait but the data is probably lost .... well.. you could recover from a backup 16:28 drojf i think the users are still there, only the passwords and usernames are lost 16:28 drojf Hi Claudio, 16:28 drojf that sounds like quite some misunderstanding. To clarify, the accounts do still exist but they do not have usernames and passwords anymore? 16:28 drojf In that case you could login with the Koha database user from koha-conf.xml that you used at the time of installation to modify the accounts. 16:28 drojf -- Mirko 16:28 drojf i cant send it. mveron just volunteered to do so ;) 16:29 * mveron just sent the message for Claudio... 16:30 drojf one problem i see: if the person that deleted the logins and passwords is going to be the one using the db user now, they are going to have a bad time ;) 16:40 drojf kf: bug 8215 is what i had in mind when talking about "klassensatz". or is that something else? 16:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add Course Reserves 16:41 drojf hm you are cait now :D 16:41 cait it's something else :) 16:41 cait that's more what we would call semesterapparat 16:41 cait I think 16:42 * jcamins likes the word "klassensatz." 16:42 cait there are programs that offer features for klassensatz - maybe we should ask google 16:42 jcamins What does it mean? 16:42 cait i found some descriptions last time 16:42 cait basically it's enough books for a class (pupils) 16:43 cait school libraries are asking for features for those... but right now I am not exactly sure what they want to do with it 16:43 drojf hm me neither then 16:43 drojf semesterapparat is nice to have too though :) 16:43 cait ok, supermarket - brb :) 16:44 drojf why do you call me supermarket? :P 16:46 jcamins drojf: you mean you haven't volunteered to take care of food provision for #koha?!? 16:48 drojf jcamins: with me switching from "no wheat" to "no gluten" for a while to see how that goes, i guess i would not be a very interesting supermarket for #koha 16:48 jcamins drojf: it will certainly make pizza making more difficult. 16:48 jcamins But not impossible! 16:49 drojf true. i will know all about that soon i'm afraid 16:49 drojf it will certainly make it expensive :( 16:49 jcamins magnuse: in fact, do I recall you mentioning that you had switched to gluten-free baking for a while? 16:51 drojf i fail to see why a class set (klassensatz) would require special handling. just use one item for the 20 or 30 copies? maybe i miss something about the concept 16:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #846 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 17 days ago) 17:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8185' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc50735e3a8fe6ff2242810636ae5176e2c62296> / Bug 6679 Avoid critic failure caused by ambiguous code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=10e4f3b9a5baac83342b6a81a2081d89454bebc8> / Bug 2060 follow-up DBRev & updatedatabase <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdif 17:08 * drojf heads home 17:09 Oak good night cait 17:12 cait back 17:25 wajasu cait: 8415 - do you just need signoff on the followup? do you want me to investigate how we may create an order without being force to create items? 17:29 cait wajasu: ah, I found the code for that :) but I have to create a patch an test 17:29 cait I would still appreciate if you would take a look 17:30 cait I hope to get to it tonight - but dinner first :) 17:33 wajasu i'll wait for your patch and look at it if/when your patch shows up. 17:34 wajasu i'm going to get into testing overdue_notice related patches ( 8687 6030 ) sincei have email setup. 17:42 fredericd tcohen: what is the status of your work on the indexer daemon, and its init script? 17:59 tcohen fredericd 17:59 wahanui fredericd is translation manager for 3.8 17:59 tcohen i have two functional patches 17:59 tcohen one for a usual .tar.gz setup 17:59 tcohen and one for a .deb install 18:01 tcohen bug 8519 and bug 8773 respectively 18:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8519 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Make koha-index-daemon run on startup 18:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup 18:03 tcohen i didn't work on the indexer daemon itself as I understood that yours was chosen over a rewrite of rebuild_zebra.pl on bug 5166 18:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Reintroduce a zebraqueue daemon, make several rebuild_zebra.pl functions a lib 18:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #846: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/846/ 18:03 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8117: Divide budget periods into two tabs 18:03 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8117: Followup: remove h3 title (duplicate infos) 18:03 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8117 follow-up remove perl warning 18:03 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: A follow-up will be added though, because we understood why I had some javascript error and jonathan didn't. It's because I've plack + debug 18:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Divide budget periods into two tabs 18:03 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7475: Update configuration 18:03 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7475: Teach matching rules to handle authorities 18:03 tcohen so, my patches are only convenient init and helper scripts 18:03 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 2060: Update command line MARC import scripts 18:03 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 2060 follow-up: add support for UNIMARCAUTH 18:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7475 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Option to overlay authorities 18:03 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 2060 follow-up DBRev & updatedatabase 18:03 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 6679 Avoid critic failure caused by ambiguous code 18:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client 18:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P1 - high, ---, mtj, Signed Off , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests 18:04 fredericd I don't understand the requirement of a deb package. 18:05 tcohen on bug 8519 there's no need for a .deb package 18:05 tcohen but bug 8773 needs a .deb package so the complete stack is installable via a repo 18:06 tcohen is that what you where asking? 18:07 fredericd But for 8519, Mason comment (the last one) seems to ask for a package 18:07 tcohen yes, I don't agree 18:08 fredericd ok 18:08 tcohen but as there is a tacit agreement on having all dependecies packaged 18:08 pastebot "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Koha::Contrib::Tamil deps as a carton tree command reports" (85 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/188 18:08 fredericd and a deb package isn't that easy since the script itself uses Moose 18:08 tcohen i mean, that every new dependency should be available... 18:08 fredericd which is a huge dependency 18:09 fredericd A consensus on introducing Moose as standard dependency for Koha would help... 18:09 tcohen right 18:11 tcohen i know nothing about how to have that consensus 18:11 wajasu plus the gpl3 discussion 18:11 tcohen gpl3 would be if we where to put that scripts inside koha tree 18:12 tcohen instead of external .deb packages 18:12 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Finding Source of Acquisition for Items in Koha 3.8 http://t.co/JwGUFIJn #kohails" 18:12 wajasu right. you are pursuing an external to koha addon 18:13 wajasu though we agree it should be a behavior in koha. 18:14 magnuse jcamins_away: nope, not gluten free but low carb (not any longer, though...) 18:14 tcohen wajasu, i've already walked that path, without any luck 18:15 tcohen i just tried to get koha-index-daemon easy to use for the average user 18:16 wajasu what if we make a non-moose implementation using alot of existing deps. 18:16 tcohen as i see it there's no real interest on getting this feature into koha right now 18:17 tcohen maybe once SolR arrives... 18:17 tcohen take a look at bug 5166 if you have some minutes 18:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Reintroduce a zebraqueue daemon, make several rebuild_zebra.pl functions a lib 18:18 wajasu i can see your frustation. thrashing with solutions to the problem. 18:19 oleonard Hmm... OpenDNS says red.ht is a phishing site... 18:20 wajasu since they are reworking search/indexing and undoing coupled code, they probably aren't encouraging new solutions. 18:22 wajasu i suggested to jcamins to add a compositeSearch plugin to his search plugin API. and then one would pick other search plugins to stack or run in parallel or federated) 18:23 wajasu so if one wanted to have a direct to db search for the biblio or item one just added, could run if the zebra/solr search did not give results. 18:23 wajasu but was seen as too much maintenence. 18:24 tcohen we currently "officially" rely on rebuild_zebra.pl to do the incremental indexing 18:24 tcohen so I thought we could use the exact same code, to properly have a daemon 18:25 tcohen (also using new sysprefs so there's no mess with switches and such) 18:25 tcohen it was the same code rebuild_zebra.pl has 18:25 tcohen as fredericd's daemon emerged as an alternative, i decided that it was enough rebasing for that patches 18:26 tcohen and we even have official instrucions for setting 'background indexing' 18:26 tcohen as we where revisiting the docs (with mtompsett) i said to myself 18:26 tcohen 'what the hell, lets do some init scripts to make peoples life easier' 18:27 tcohen its a pathological behaviour I have 18:27 tcohen just that 18:29 mtj tcohen, feel free to change the blocker status on 8519 - i just make a suggestion, thats all 18:29 tcohen i think it doesn't make any difference 18:30 tcohen it is not a problem for me 18:35 jcamins_away wajasu: the problem is no one cares to pay for something like that. 18:36 wajasu i want it so when i add a bib or item or authority(now), that i can pull it up without waiting. one day. 18:37 mtj the trick for 8519 is the split the patch into 2 18:37 mtj 1 patch to remove zeb_daemon.pl, and another patch to add the new indexer 18:38 bag mtj? 18:38 wahanui DeM KraZy NutZ!! 18:38 bag heh 18:38 bag love it 18:38 cait mtj: I think there was a problem with the indexer and the license? 18:38 cait I am not sure what it was exactly, but was discussed in the channel yesterday 18:39 mtj aaah, gotcha its gpl3, yeah... 18:39 bag oh yeah mtj BTW it's national talk like a pirate day (well here) http://www.talklikeapirate.com/about.html 18:39 cait mtj: I think rangi said it could live on a separate repo 18:39 cait because you can use them together but not distribute together with Koha? 18:40 mtj *nod* 18:40 cait ... and try and sort things out for 3.12 18:41 mtj everyday is talk like a pirate day for bigB 18:43 cait ook 18:44 jcamins_away wajasu: right, but if implementing that was going to cost tens of thousands of dollars, would it be a high enough priority for you to actually do it? 18:46 jcamins_away (though it's all completely hypothetical at this point, as the rest of the search code has to be rewritten) 18:49 wajasu true. 18:51 jcamins_away Plus, reimplementing search in MySQL really has nothing to recommend it. 18:52 jcamins_away Much better to continue with integrating the background indexer. 18:54 oleonard Comparing a Bootstrap header menu with the current one: http://screencast.com/t/sP7JyBYwlc 18:54 jcamins_away First one is Bootstrap? 18:55 oleonard Yes 18:55 * jcamins_away could tell because it looked nicer. 18:55 wajasu i will only be a resource periodically, but now that i know your process in koha, i can jump in and add value where i can. 18:55 * cait waits for it to load :) 18:55 wajasu i am lovin the look of the staff client these days :) 18:55 cait oleonard: nice! 18:56 magnuse yeah, lookin good! 18:57 wajasu i wonder if we could get red or light red background color box around the field that are required. i can't see those red asterisks that well these days. oh and turn it to background blue once data is entered. 18:58 oleonard Where do you mean wajasu? 18:58 wajasu adding a biblio. 18:59 wajasu i import. then click the tabs and want to be able to see what needs to be filled in. 19:00 magnuse o/ 19:00 wajasu also if we don't default to an itemtype, maybe we could have a button to the right i can click to make it my primary itemtype(i.e.book) so i don't have to use a drop down. 19:01 jcamins_away wajasu: the entire bib editor desperately needs an overhaul. 19:01 wajasu forget what i just said. let the overhaul deal with it. 19:02 * wajasu back to overdue_notice bug fixes for html and such. 19:03 jcamins_away wajasu: I was kind of hoping you were volunteering to do the overhaul... 19:03 jcamins_away :P 19:03 wajasu :) 19:04 wajasu only if folks can agree on our OO strategy 19:06 jcamins_away wajasu: not Moose. 19:06 wajasu i want to rewrite the letter/template stuff to use TT. because i saw that I can redefine the [% and %] to << and >>. it would be nice to 19:06 jcamins_away That would be *awesome*. 19:10 wajasu then if we write a TT provider to grab them from the DB, we can let users write templates stored inthe DB for notices and custom pages/views. and nigrations would be easier if users didn't customized things in the filesystem. 19:10 * wajasu back to overdue_notice testing. 19:13 wajasu i hope bug 8687 gets its minor patch soon so I can test it while I have me email hat on. 19:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8687 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Failed QA , Improvements in overdue_notices.pl 19:13 druthb botsnack cookie 19:14 druthb wahanui: botsnack cookie 19:14 wahanui :) 19:14 druthb there. 19:24 rangi Morning 19:25 drojf good morning rangi 19:26 cait good morning rangi 19:26 wajasu after searching the catalog, i see details. it would be nice to have a checkout button that navigated me tothe checkout page with the barcode already filled in the box. 19:27 bag rangi - it's talk like a pirate day!!! 19:27 wajasu maybe a link in the holding details barcode area (right under the barcode) "Checkout" or such 19:27 rangi That was yesterday here 19:27 cait wajasu: the problem is, for which patron? 19:27 bag it be today here… 19:28 bag garsh - to the plank with that land lover rangi 19:28 cait lol 19:33 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Finding Source of Acquisition for Items in Koha 3.8 http://t.co/C3ExnFcR" 19:44 mtj aargh, i be yearning to kill thar swabbie tweetbot, arghhh... 19:46 bag mtj++ 19:46 bag Yarr 19:47 mtj oleonard++ very nice! 19:55 oleonard I wonder if there is a T:T option to dump whitespace when outputting HTML 19:55 jcamins_away oleonard: yes. 19:55 jcamins_away [%- %] 19:55 jcamins_away Or [% -%] depending which side you want to dump whitespace on. 19:55 oleonard I mean globally. All whitespace between tags in a page 19:56 jcamins_away Ah. 19:56 jcamins_away I'm not sure. 19:56 mtj oleonard, like a TT compressor? 19:57 jcamins_away oleonard: http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Config.html#section_PRE_CHOMP_POST_CHOMP 19:58 mtj oooh, thats nice 20:03 oleonard Kind of what I was imagining: https://developers.google.com/speed/docs/mod_pagespeed/filter-whitespace-collapse 20:04 jcamins_away oleonard: how does that differ from setting PRE_CHOMP and POST_CHOMP to 1? 20:05 oleonard I don't know I didn't try it. Where do you set it? 20:05 rangi C4::Template 20:07 rangi oleonard: in the new sub 20:07 oleonard Found it, thanks 20:07 rangi bonus points 20:08 rangi make it a config option 20:08 oleonard In what sense? A preference? 20:08 rangi config file option 20:09 rangi so that when doing dev you can turn it on and off without having to hack perl 20:09 oleonard Anyway it's apparently not without hazards. Big JS error right off the bat. 20:09 rangi exactly 20:09 oleonard I'll have to do some tests to see if and how it improves performance. 20:09 rangi <pre_chomp>1</pre_chomp> 20:09 rangi etc 20:09 rangi in the koha-conf.xml 20:10 rangi then you could have it on per site too, on shared infrastructure, if you desired 20:10 rangi see how its done with COMPILE_EXT 20:10 rangi like that 20:12 mtj oleonard, yeah - thats exactly what i was imagining too, re: w/s compressor 20:13 rangi oleonard: you can use + to disable chomping 20:13 rangi might have to do that for the js bits that need it 20:13 mtj heya kathryn 20:14 kathryn hi there mtj :) 20:14 * oleonard scolds his brain for giving him another project 20:17 kathryn oh and morning all 20:30 martian523 hi, i'm trying to enter an original marc 20:31 martian523 when it comes to field 100 and 650...etc. these fields seems to be locked 20:31 martian523 is there a way to unlock them so i can enter the terms manually? 20:32 rangi faq? 20:32 wahanui faq is, like, found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ 20:32 oleonard Bye #koha 20:39 martian523 tried, but still locked 20:40 rangi you switched it to allow? 20:40 martian523 yes 20:40 rangi no idea then, that works here 20:40 jcamins_away Are you sure you actually tried typing in the field? 20:41 jcamins_away The lock sign does not mean "typing is not allowed." It means "under authority control." 20:41 martian523 ahaha, stupid me, sorry 20:41 jcamins_away A lot of people get tripped up. 20:42 martian523 thanks 20:42 santy hi! I was following the ubuntu install guide and when I issued this command "sudo koha-create --create-db catalogocentral" I got an error 1470 saying String 'koha_catalogocentral' is too long for user name (should be no longer than 16)... so I exed the same command with "cc" as the user name. The problem is, whenever I try to restart koha-common it starts zebra for both catalogocentral and cc, what should I do? 20:43 jcamins_away santy: remove catalogocentral. 20:43 jcamins_away koha-remove catalogocentral 20:43 jcamins_away You'll get errors. Ignore them. 20:43 santy I did, to no avail 20:43 jcamins_away Hm. 20:44 santy it throws the same user name is too long - error 20:44 jcamins_away Remove the directory is what I'd do, I think. rm -Ri /etc/koha/sites/catalogocentral 20:44 santy ok Ill try 20:44 jcamins_away Also, you should follow the Debian guide. 20:44 jcamins_away packages? 20:44 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 20:44 jcamins_away ^^ follow those instructions 20:46 santy OK I will 20:53 martian523 is there a way to get a list of lost items? 20:54 cait martian523: there are lots of ways 20:54 cait i suggest you make yourself familiar with the built in reports in the reports module 20:55 rangi !jenkins build Koha_master now 20:55 jenkins_koha rangi: job Koha_master build scheduled now 20:55 rangi i think we might get to 0 fails with this build 20:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #847 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 17 days ago) 20:55 rangi we will know in an hour 20:55 rangi then just this 20:55 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/ 20:55 rangi which has been failing since APRIL! 20:57 dcook Afternoon/morning #koha 20:58 rangi hi dcook 20:58 cait hi dcook 20:59 dcook hey rangi 20:59 dcook hey cait 21:01 dcook Does anyone have time to check if items are actually being created when AcqCreateItem is set to "receiving an order"? 21:01 dcook I swear that I've tried it in the past, but I'm not getting anything in 3.8+ 21:02 cait dcook: that doesn't sound good 21:02 cait my 3.8 is not ready right now i think 21:03 cait did you configure an ACQ framework? do the item forms show up? 21:03 cait did you use a barcode that already exsited in the database? 21:03 dcook yeah, the framework is set up and the form shows up 21:03 cait (there is a bug with that, it will fail silently) 21:03 dcook Hmm 21:03 dcook I'm noticing a different javascript error when I click on the barcode field 21:04 dcook Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'field_value' of undefined 21:05 dcook The barcode was definitely unique :/ 21:06 cait dcook: is this javascript or from the logs? 21:07 dcook javascript 21:07 wahanui somebody said javascript was required for interactions with clicks 21:08 dcook But now that I look at it, that's for master... 21:08 dcook My 3.8 doesn't get the error. I'll try a different barcode than the system generated one 21:09 dcook Actually, I should've articulated myself better from the start 21:09 dcook It's not just a lack of item creation. The order isn't being received :/. 21:10 dcook ... 21:10 dcook And I'm an idiot 21:11 dcook I was forgetting to hit "Add" 21:11 rangi heh 21:11 dcook I thought "Add" was to pop up a second form for a second item 21:11 rangi could probably go a better error message then? 21:11 rangi or better wording 21:12 dcook Mmm, maybe an error message 21:12 dcook Saying that no items have been received or added to be received 21:12 rangi yeah 21:14 dcook I'll post an enh bug report in a minute. Now on to testing the actual thing I wanted to test, lol 21:14 rangi :) 21:21 rangi jcamins_away: bug 7475 21:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7475 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Option to overlay authorities 21:22 rangi that should be pushed to master now right? 21:22 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog 21:22 rangi since it and bug 2060 have been? 21:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client 21:23 rangi ok, just went through all the patches pushed last night (nz time) none of them needed in 3.8.x 21:24 cait dcook: i know exactly how you feel... 21:28 wajasu note: chris c requested a patch for bug 8378 for 3.8.x that i added 2 days ago. 21:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore 21:28 rangi that chris c guy is a dick 21:30 cait yeah, and he never shows up on irc 21:35 mveron Good night #koha 21:35 santy ok, I started over and followed debians guide on ubuntu precise and arrived to about the same state... now, debians howto does not include the sax parser check procedures, I just checked and it says that it Looks bad... should I follow ubuntuses guide sax instructions anyhow? 21:37 dcook night mveron 21:38 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=12286&action=diff 21:38 rangi this changes GetPreparedLetter 21:38 rangi which is used by Reserves, Suggestions, Circ notices, borrower updates 21:38 rangi and more 21:39 rangi i dont have time to test this in the 2 days before 3.8.5 is released 21:39 rangi im holding it for 3.8.6 21:39 rangi it appears the only testing so far has been on overdues 21:40 santy to save you time, I edited ParserDetails.ini files now it Looks good. 21:45 santy following both guides (ubuntuses and debian's) I get to the same state... when I open the web page at port 80 there is the apache it works page. But no koha interface could it be I didn't set up koha-sites.conf properly? 21:49 cait santy: what kind of installaton did you do? 21:49 cait are you using the koha-common packages? 21:49 cait whch installation manual are you following? 21:49 santy yes koha-common squeezes 21:50 santy 3.8 on debian... and saxes part of ubuntuses guide 21:50 cait so did you use the koha-create command? 21:50 cait to create an instance? 21:51 santy instance cc is set up, sax looks good, apache it works, but no koha webmin nor opac 21:51 cait hm 21:51 rangi sounds like a dns issue 21:52 rangi and or a hosts one 21:52 santy ping www.google.com works 21:52 rangi what is the fqdn of your koha site 21:52 santy well its an ubuntu installation inside a vm... bridged network adapter 21:53 santy what should I write into the domain linke of koha-sites.conf for a localhost environ? 21:53 rangi no 21:53 rangi dont touch that file 21:53 santy it actually did not exist 21:53 rangi look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled 21:53 rangi good 21:53 rangi it shouldnt 21:54 rangi there should be a file cc in there 21:54 rangi edit that one 21:54 santy so should I delete it again? 21:54 rangi what? are you making files? 21:54 santy well, the guide says "To configure your server for use with DNS names: After install, edit /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf with details about your site. You may need to create this file." 21:55 rangi what guide 21:55 santy http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu#Ensure_Database_Availability and http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze 21:56 rangi oh, you didnt do that before you ran koha-create???? 21:56 santy let me check 21:56 rangi did you just skip down 21:57 rangi nothing you change in there now will affect the site you created 21:57 rangi only new ones 21:57 rangi so look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled 21:57 rangi and edit the file cc in there 21:59 santy here is the sequence: sudo nano /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf -> sudo a2enmod rewrite -> sudo apt-get install mysql-server -> sudo koha-create --create-db cc 22:01 rangi cool in that case 22:01 rangi the file you want to edit is in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ 22:01 wahanui Hmm. No matches for that, rangi. 22:02 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #847: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/847/ 22:04 santy the sites-enabled/cc file looks as if it had been configured using the koha-sites.conf file I edited... 22:05 santy I think ths the ServerName attribute... I'll just put localhost... I'm just making tests on a LAN environment 22:16 santy ok, I got the admin interface working, had to edit ports.conf and add NameVirtualHost *:8082 and Listen 8082 22:16 santy but I'm getting still the apache works page instead of the opac 22:17 cait you will have to disable the default website maybe 22:17 cait not sure how the packages normally do that? 22:17 santy ... oh I think I have to run the webmin installer first right? 22:17 cait you have to run it first but it should show you a maintenance site for koha 22:18 santy hmm ok... 22:21 santy would you recommend me to install the optional things of the Other Data section in the installer for a multicatalog koha installation? 22:24 santy sorry there are many diverse options, Ill just select the ones that sound ok for us 22:28 santy ok, good hint... just removed the 000-default file from sites-enabled... restarted apache and now kohas beautiful opac interface shows up as intended! 22:30 cait :) 22:30 cait instead of removing the file - you could have used the apache command 22:30 cait a2dissite 22:31 santy humm thanks, will have that in mind 22:31 santy i'll put that in the spanish guide i'm writing 22:33 santy it just took me 1 and a half our to install ubuntu precise server and koha 22:40 dcook Morning/afternoon/evening, #koha! 23:37 martian523 i was trying to run circulation statistics and 0 results found 23:37 martian523 but we did checkout books 23:38 martian523 custom reports show there are books being checked out, but not on the circulation statistics 23:46 martian523 as a matter of fact, all reports on statistics wizards have "0" results 23:57 tcohen a2dissite 000-default 23:57 tcohen async answer