Time Nick Message 23:59 wajasu i could tell. 23:58 jcamins I am designing the system so it would be possible to do that. 23:58 wajasu but i know there is alot of work to do before that. 23:57 wajasu i am really glad you are getting search up to par. i hope with your future search plugins, you make a composable plugin, where one can stack them, and configure it so that (a) if no results, run the second, (b) run in parallel with immediate results from one, and asynchronous ajaxified rsults arriving right behind. 23:53 jcamins The BEGIN blocks are run exactly once under Plack. 23:53 jcamins Right. 23:52 wajasu so the more deps the slower. but if they plackify, they are preloaded, and only what is needed is run in on plackified scripts. right ? 23:51 jcamins 2.57s. 23:51 jcamins Heck of a lot faster than on my laptop. 23:50 wajasu i got 1.29secs total with koha running in a VM with /home/koha/kohadev in the VM filesystem and /home/koha/kohaclone sshfs mounted to my hostOS. 23:46 wajasu yup. 23:45 jcamins wajasu: you're welcome. Kind of extraordinary, isn't it, how long it takes for Koha modules to load? 23:45 wajasu jcamins: that nyt report is great. thx 22:55 wajasu it would take 4hours to assemble dependencies from cpan, and build archlinux packages. perl didn't have but a couple of koha's deps. so i saw the light. debian. 22:53 wajasu and run debian in a VM. 22:52 wajasu i'm about to upgrade to 3.10 once that's released. 22:51 wajasu none of the same command line tools that apache has. but i was on archlinux. 22:50 wajasu the problem was apache was so different from debian 22:50 wajasu i could not infer it fromthe INSTALL instructions. 4 years ago. 22:50 jcamins If you're satisfied with that, though, I suggest you just leave it. 22:50 jcamins wajasu: then you have your system set up wrong. 22:50 wajasu i always have to run zebra as root. 22:49 wajasu http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1diag.html 22:36 jcamins It's dead simple. 22:36 jcamins ^^ follow that guide. 22:36 wahanui packages is, like, at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 22:36 jcamins packages? 22:36 jcamins Yeah, Squeeze is the way to go. 22:36 jcamins Jared: no, that was documented, past tense. I don't think it's so much that you missed it as the "use Debian" recommendation was replaced with "here's how I got an old version of Koha to almost run on Fedora." 22:35 jcamins One developer uses Fedora. 22:35 Jared then my apologies, I missed it. What is the best supported distro...latest debian? 22:35 jcamins And it's not that it can't be made to work. 22:35 jcamins Jared: I think we've documented it repeatedly. 22:34 Jared I'll have to setup a debian install and test it again there. 22:34 Jared I think the takeaway is that this zebra stuff just doesn't work on fedora/centos/rhel. I'd encourage you to document this somewhere 22:25 jcamins Also, try just those first two lines. 22:25 Jared one other thing I did notice, is that by default, stuff is installed to /usr/local/bin, which is not in the default path on fedora. 22:25 jcamins And you got no output? 22:24 Jared hmm, so despite the changes, I still get error 109. 22:24 pastebot "Jared" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Rebuild steps" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/183 22:23 jcamins Oh, I haven't created any new users in my 3.8.x installs. 22:22 rangi 3.8.x too 22:21 jcamins Nice! 22:21 jcamins Hey, the password field on master is an actual password box. 22:20 jcamins The init and commit commands. 22:20 jcamins zebra-biblios-dom 22:19 Jared do authorites-dom and biblios-dom or all 4? 22:19 Jared ok, will do 22:19 jcamins Yeah, repeat the init thing. 22:18 jcamins Or to make the test clickable. 22:18 Jared Do I need to drop and rebuild the databases and rerun the rebuild_zebra script? 22:18 jcamins We need a "select all" button in the webinstaller. 22:17 Jared Hi, sorry about that. 22:10 Jared sorry, I'm on the phone for a few minutes.... Appreciate your ideas. The module path was definitely wrong 22:09 jcamins Well, yes, that wasn't what was causing the problem. 22:09 Jared still getting error 109 22:06 jcamins Well, it took a while, but I knew we'd find it eventually. :) 22:05 Jared yes that path is wrong 22:03 jcamins In particular, I think there's a modulePath directive that is likely to be wrong. 22:03 jcamins Did you open up the zebra-biblios-dom.cfg file and make sure that all the paths listed match where your files ended up? 22:02 Jared I did run the install twice (make uninstall and re-ran gunzip & tar) Same effect both times. 22:02 jcamins Oh, I bet I know what it is. 22:02 Jared and I have koha 3.08.04 installed. When installing, I accepted all of the defaults from Makefile.PL 22:01 Jared I have idzebra-2.0.52 installed via a tarball 22:00 Jared I have yaz-3.0.49-1.fc13.x86_64 instaled as an RPM via yum 22:00 Jared Some more context for you, I have fedora, have installed all of the perl modules (via cpan) 22:00 jcamins It should have been zebra-biblios-dom all along. 21:59 jcamins I caught that after the fact. 21:59 jcamins The first set was incorrect. 21:59 Jared sorry, zebra-biblios and zebra-biblios-dom 21:59 Jared So, I'm trying to recap. You had be run 4 zebraidx commands in an attempt to rebuild zebra-biblios and zebra-biblios-cfg 21:58 jcamins I have no idea what's going on there. 21:56 jcamins When I was younger, I had a class with another Jared. 21:55 Jared It's good to know there's another Jared out there. There aren't too many 21:54 pastebot "Jared" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Output of zebraidx commands. zebrasrv still returns error 109" (52 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/182 21:53 jcamins Jared: as you probably gathered, my name is also Jared, and it's kind of throwing me. ;) 21:52 pastebot "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Jared (not me): try this" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/181 21:50 jcamins Interesting way of doing ls -lR. :) 21:48 pastebot "Jared" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "/var/lib/koha permissions" (65 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/180 21:48 jcamins ls -lR 21:48 Jared wajasu: Yes, everything under /var/lib/koha is koha.koha 21:48 jcamins Jared: share ls -l /var/lib/koha? 21:47 jcamins wajasu: this isn't the standard no permissions error, though, I don't think. 21:45 wajasu database unavailable: the user/pass OR the perms usually. following the KOHA_CONF to the koha-conf.xml /var/lib/koha/... make sure the user you run zebrasrv as has perms to read/write all the way down that heirarchy. 21:44 rangi id do the create before rebuild_zebra see if that fixes it 21:44 Jared I have installed Koha koha-3.08.04 21:44 Jared interestingly, it says there was no biblios db when dropping it. 21:43 jcamins Let me figure out what it helped us find out. 21:43 jcamins This is helpful. 21:43 jcamins Ah-ha. 21:43 pastebot "Jared" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "biblios rebuild" (48 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/179 21:39 jcamins I should have asked this first. 21:39 jcamins What version of Koha are you using? 21:38 jcamins Yes. 21:38 Jared ok. Do this as the koha user, I assume 21:38 jcamins Then do the commit. 21:38 jcamins I am telling you what to do. 21:38 jcamins So, run that drop command, then do: zebraidx -c /path/to/zebra-biblios.cfg -d biblios init 21:37 Jared can you clarify "the database init thing" Are you referring to "koha-rebuild-zebra"? 21:36 jcamins Oh, the init was removed. 21:36 jcamins Under "I have double ups..." 21:36 jcamins At the end of that file it has a suggestion of resetting your Zebra indexes. 21:36 jcamins No. 21:35 Jared database init is the reindex_zebra script? 21:35 wahanui well, faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ 21:35 jcamins faq? 21:35 jcamins You won't get any results, but you might not get the error after it's done. 21:35 jcamins Jared: try doing the database init thing. 21:31 pastebot "Jared" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "yaz-client output" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/178 21:30 Jared I did paste the yaz-client output...but didn't see the paste link. I'll paste it again. 21:28 jcamins Jared: hm, nothing about unrecognized option? 21:28 Jared there is some extra info, but it appears (to me) to connect to zebrasrv ok 21:27 jcamins It should give you some sort of diagnostics, as I recall. 21:27 wajasu http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Weird-search-problem-td3072111.html 21:26 jcamins Right. 21:26 Jared from the yaz-client? 21:24 jcamins When you connect to the server and set the database. 21:24 jcamins I want to know what it says *before* you do the search. 21:24 Jared same error if I use Yaz client. I can do it again, but previously, I got identical stuff in the zebrasrv log 21:23 wahanui yaz client is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Understanding_Zebra_indexing 21:23 jcamins yaz client? 21:23 jcamins Jared: try using yaz client directly. 21:22 jcamins Jared: I don't know about "official," but certainly you'll get a lot more help with Debian/Ubuntu. 21:22 Jared Is debian the only "officially" supported OS distro for koha? 21:21 pastebot "Jared" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "zebrasrv output showing error 109 (Fedora)" (109 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/176 21:20 jcamins You should be getting a ton of output from zebrasrv. 21:20 jcamins No, nothing to do with permissions. 21:20 Jared I'll paste the zebrasrv output first. 21:20 Jared I can paste the output of ls -l on /var/*/koha...but all of the permissions look ok 21:20 jcamins *in 21:19 jcamins Paste that into paste.koha-community.org? 21:19 * jcamins adds for the benefit of those just joining it that "Jared" is not me. 21:19 Jared how am I starting zebrasrv? For now just on the command-line: "/usr/local/bin/zebrasrv -v all -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" 21:18 jcamins Wait, how are you starting Zebra? 21:18 jcamins Yeah, so I think the problem you're running into is that Zebra is failing to use your configuration file. 21:17 Jared as far as I can tell, everything under /var/*/koha is owned by koha.koha 21:17 Jared I did run rebuild_zebra as that user. 21:17 jcamins However, 109 isn't a permissions error, I don't think... that sounds like a "Zebra isn't being run with the correct configuration" error to me. 21:16 jcamins All Zebra files must be owned by that user. 21:16 jcamins You must run rebuild_zebra as that same user. 21:14 Jared yes, zebrasrv is being run after "su koha -" 21:14 jcamins No. 21:14 jcamins The CGI script connects via socket. 21:14 Jared Is there any concern about using a version of zebra that is too new? 21:14 jcamins zebrasrv is running as your koha user. 21:14 jcamins See above about my hatred of non-Debian systems. ;) 21:13 jcamins No need. 21:13 Jared I added another -v, output is the same. I can re-paste 21:13 Jared jcamins, can you describe how the permissions work? HTTPd runs as user "apache"...that then calls out to zebrasrv. zebrasrv (somehow) connects to actual files on the filesystem. 21:12 jcamins Umm, add another -v. 21:12 pastebot "Jared" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "rebuild script output" (29 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/175 21:11 jcamins Full disclosure: I dislike non-Debian systems because they don't play nicely with Koha. 21:11 jcamins Jared: stick the output in paste.koha-community.org. 21:10 Jared This is a new install...not an upgrade. I did put one card/item in the catalog. 21:10 jcamins Jared: no. Zebra user and system user are unrelated. 21:10 Jared Have I reindexed? I think so. I have run "/usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -v -v -b -a" I can send the output if that is helpful. 21:08 Jared files in "/var/lock/koha/zebradb/" are owned by the system user "koha". Is this the same user as what is in /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg? 21:08 jcamins Jared: have you reindexed yet? 21:06 Jared Hello, I'm looking for information on Koha - Zebra permissions. I'm installing on Fedora and am getting "Search biblios ERROR 109" from zebrasrv. 21:06 rangi heh 21:05 jcamins ^^ not me 21:04 jcamins *remembered 21:04 jcamins I think I rembered the correct modules for the most dramatic effect. 21:04 wajasu ahh. 21:04 jcamins Load time for Koha's modules. 21:03 wajasu you mean the load time for perl. right? 21:03 wajasu ok. i will. 21:02 jcamins Obviously the faster your computer the less dramatic it will be. 21:02 jcamins Then take a look at the results. 21:02 jcamins If you want to see what I'm talking about, run the following command: perl -MDevel::NYTProf -e "use C4::Search; use C4::Circulation; print 'Hello, world!';" 21:00 jcamins The difference between 22ms and 20ms just isn't that big a deal when you're talking about a total load time of 400ms+. 20:59 jcamins C4::Context is not very efficient, but the bigger issue is the overall load time. 20:58 wajasu i was trying to understand if there was a perfomance issue setting up Context.pm "too many queries, plus perl startup, plus db connection(no connection pool). And if that was the driving force to plackify. If so, we should code a plackified context and benchmark. 20:54 jcamins Right, it's not an important bug. 20:53 wajasu i left the XML::Simple in, and added the parsing with XML::Easy and the benchmark ran with the same time. 20:52 jcamins That is about how long it takes to parse koha-conf.xml. 20:52 jcamins Right, that has nothing to do with MySQL. 20:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7170 normal, P3, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED , Remove use of XML::Simple 20:52 wahanui bug 7170 is what I was looking at 20:52 wajasu bug 7170. 20:51 jcamins What bug? XML parsing has nothing to do with connecting to MySQL. 20:50 wajasu the removal of XML::Simple. I understand about memcache probably taking care of it. 20:50 wajasu i'm wondering why/how that bug wants to get more performance. 20:49 jcamins wajasu: so what is the problem you've encountered? 20:49 wajasu i was in C4, and grepped for dbh->disconnect. I read that CGI supposedly cleans up? but i also read on a site that if we don't cleanup the resource at the end of scripts, the database may have to "timeout". so since i was running the apachebench benchmark, i wonder. 20:47 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" 20:47 jcamins the first question? 20:46 jcamins wajasu: huh? 20:46 wajasu i wonder if creation of a new db connection is the issue, or if the fact that many places don't dbh->disconnect, causes mysql to "timeout" before cleanup. 20:46 jcamins marcelr just reported that. 20:45 jcamins wajasu: actually, the Zebra config sections are not used, I think. 20:44 wajasu i did notice: the zebra config sections have XIncludes and go grab those files and parse them as well. (XML::Simple does I assume), not that it makes a difference. 20:42 wajasu oh. by the way tried that XML::Easy and replaced XML::Simple. Did the load_testing/benchmark_staff.pl and got the same results. 20:39 wajasu ok. 20:36 jcamins wajasu: as long as the tests give meaningful results, I will support the inclusion in Koha. 20:36 wajasu i'll try it out on something simple, then something complex and you let me know if its good to go. 20:35 wajasu and the tests are more db independent 20:35 jcamins wajasu: if that technique can test functionality *now* it sounds like a fine idea. 20:34 wajasu getting back to the DBIx test idea. i want to use th DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader to generate OO code that is independent from the DB (myslq/postgres), then call our code, but use the DBIx classes to inspect the results. so when we rewrite, only the current calls have to be coded in the given: when: then scenarios. 20:33 jcamins Or t/bdd/ 20:32 rangi yep 20:31 wajasu gotch. like db_dependent 20:31 rangi its not optional it is mandatory 20:31 jcamins Right. 20:31 rangi because if it is in t/ 20:30 rangi but lower 20:30 rangi and make it not in t/ 20:30 jcamins_away I don't see any problem with that. 20:30 wajasu ahh 20:30 jcamins_away wajasu: add it as optional. 20:30 wajasu if say i want to use Test::Spec for BDD and write 50 tests. i wouldn't want that to affect production deps. 20:29 magnuse hiya cait 20:29 wajasu i also wish there was separate "test" dependencies. 20:29 cait hi magnuse :) 20:29 cait :) 20:29 magnuse hehe 20:28 jcamins_away And it's a damn fine test, if I say so myself. 20:28 jcamins_away cait: I did. 20:28 * magnuse too 20:28 * cait is optimistic 20:28 cait jcamins_away: but you started with writing tests for it :) 20:27 jcamins_away This is true. Unfortunately, C4::Search is still sitting there, mocking our attempts to make any arbitrary input from the user work. 20:27 rangi has been a huge pita for the next at least 6 months 20:26 rangi cos every rewrite of a major feature in koha, to this point 20:26 rangi or at least stop making them the first thing they do, rather than the last 20:26 rangi people should stop doing them then 20:26 jcamins_away Rewrites suck, and make me grouchy. 20:25 jcamins_away rangi: I think I have to call BS on rewrites being fun. 20:19 wajasu http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines has a link under (PERL13) POD that is broken these days. 19:55 rangi My stop bbiab 19:52 rangi Fixing kohastructure.sql would be the first step then 19:52 wajasu so as the architects discover them, i guess they can write a bug and baby step the schema to where is need to be. 19:52 wajasu i did a reverse engineer of the db a coupld of months ago in java/hibernate, and there a number of schema issues (nullable keys, etc). when i did the same with DBIx, those issue are still there. 19:50 rangi Fast and stable 19:50 wajasu thats why i want to set up a stack with and without layers (with erformance/profiler, etc). 19:49 rangi Everything else is a means to that 19:48 rangi Goal is a fast system for end users 19:48 rangi But I mostly agree with u 19:48 wajasu true. but encapsulation is the goal. composition... 19:48 rangi Especially structures that you have to coerce into being an object 19:47 rangi OO isn't a panacea and shouldn't be thrown at everything 19:46 wajasu for consistency sake, i would like a nice new OO domain model in there. I wish I could test against that with the implementation calling our current stuff. then let people rewrite the implementations, while keeping the tests passing. 19:43 rangi That would be awesome 19:43 wajasu ok. so that is the plan. i'm with you. so as i get more familiar with the codebase, i should just write tests so we don't fall behind. 19:43 rangi But gotta do the hard work first 19:42 rangi Rewrites are fun 19:42 cait good point 19:42 rangi Or we will break tons more than we fix 19:42 rangi Before we start a major rewrite 19:41 rangi Coverage 19:41 rangi Yep but in the mean time (next 3 feature releases at least) we need to go from 56 to close to 100 19:41 wajasu we could assign bugs to folks to code/wire up the implementations, and uncomment the tests as part of the bugs. then we could get the tests written. 19:39 wajasu i was thinking if someone wrote a OO domain model, that used the DBIx underneath, we could write tests for all the DB layer and the OO domain and services. before the implementation 19:38 wajasu durections/durations 19:37 wajasu plus it has that DateTime component. it would be nice to have time/durections normalized so folks writing scheduling/calender sensitive stuff would have an easier time. 19:35 rangi Use versioned schema 19:35 rangi But yes instead of updatedatabase.pl and the .sql 19:34 rangi Hmm I wouldn't ... You wouldn't be testing the actual queries if you did that 19:34 wajasu do you want to use the db schema migration stuff? 19:33 rangi Specially ::versioned 19:33 wajasu now i a thinking of using them to help write tests. 19:33 rangi The schema is all that interests me 19:33 rangi Yep there's a branch with that all done 19:32 wajasu i played with DBIx last night. I used the DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader to completely generate DBIx classes for our schema. wrote some simple queries using the objects. 19:28 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.8°C (9:25 PM CEST on September 16, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 19:28 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:28 cait ew 19:27 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (7:20 AM NZST on September 17, 2012). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 19:27 rangi @wunder nzwn 18:47 cait hi drojf :) 17:56 * cait waves 15:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup 15:24 tcohen mtj, have you seen bug 8773? 15:23 tcohen hi #koha 14:11 Waylon laters all 14:11 Waylon okay, bed time. 14:11 wahanui well, zebra troubleshooting is see [understanding zebra indexing] and [yaz client] 14:11 Waylon zebra troubleshooting? 14:11 Waylon zebra troubleshooting is see [understanding zebra indexing] and [yaz client] 14:10 wahanui it has been said that zebra is a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. or the search engine koha uses 14:10 Waylon zebra? 13:30 jcamins_away mtj: 8210 is rebased 12:45 jcamins_away yaz client is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Understanding_Zebra_indexing 12:45 jcamins_away understanding zebra indexing is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Understanding_Zebra_indexing 12:45 jcamins_away understanding zebra indexing? 12:44 wajasu man yaz and man yaz-client will help 12:43 jcamins_away troubleshooting with yaz client? 12:43 jcamins_away yaz client? 12:43 wahanui rumour has it yaz is from IndexData and the Koha XSLT filters are essentially copied from YAZ 12:43 jcamins_away yaz? 12:43 jcamins_away *idea 12:43 jcamins_away ^^ good ides 12:42 wajasu maybe you might want to look into the yaz-client? 12:42 Waylon and reindexing 12:42 Waylon not sure. running it again with the old zebra config. 12:41 jcamins_away Waylon: what was the problem? 12:35 Waylon okay, yay. hmm 12:32 Waylon hmmmmm.. 12:31 Waylon mode. 12:31 Waylon in -v all 12:31 Waylon got it working 12:31 Waylon ooo. 12:29 jcamins_away Waylon: not easily, no. 12:27 Waylon without asking a specific query? 12:27 Waylon any way to examine the contents of the zebradb? 12:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #176: SUCCESS in 1 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/176/ 12:17 jcamins_away lodac: responding off-channel 12:17 lodac jcamins_away: are you looking for customers? 12:17 jcamins_away That list is kept up to date. 12:17 lodac I notice that list for US is 247 days old... so that is why I asked here 12:16 jcamins_away ^^ there is a list, though not everyone is on it (I'm not, for example) 12:16 wahanui please see http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ for a list of paid Koha support vendors. 12:16 jcamins_away paid support? 12:16 wahanui support is probably found at http://koha-community.org/support/ 12:16 jcamins_away support? 12:15 lodac paid of-course 12:15 lodac I work in the education sector (k-12). Any recommendation of some American based companies that would provide support to a koha user for a district? 12:14 lodac Morning 12:11 jcamins_away In that case, I think I'm back to theory A: you made non-compatible changes to your Zebra config and are storing necessary data in strange places. 12:10 Waylon huh? 12:10 jcamins_away This bread is amazing. 12:08 Waylon ah? zebra is running. 12:08 Waylon i mean, koha master zebra config fails. 12:08 jcamins_away Actually, looking at the output you pasted into the channel, sounds like Zebra isn't running. 12:08 Waylon hrm. 12:06 jcamins_away Sounds like you adjusted your Zebra configuration in a non-compatible way. 12:00 Waylon still no results 12:00 Waylon mtj, koha master config, fails. 11:19 mtj hmm, usually no - but if youve heavily tweaked your zebra files and marc framework, …then perhaps? 11:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #176 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 11:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7409 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Missing dependencies for Debian package 11:18 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 7409 : Fixing typo 11:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #175: SUCCESS in 1 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/175/ 11:09 Waylon if this works, guess i will have to manually go through the marc setup. 11:08 mtj when it breaks, your last added mod was the problem 11:08 mtj start fresh and functioning, then add your mod... 11:08 Waylon on its way. 11:08 mtj use git on your zebra files 11:07 mtj make sense, yeah 11:07 Waylon maybe.. okay.. ill swap the configs. 11:06 mtj yep, you would lose those mods :/ but at least you might have a working search… to start with 11:06 mtj do a diff, lots of changes yeah? 11:05 Waylon right, but that would take out all the customization that mandumah did. 11:05 mtj hmm, perhaps use the new zebra conf files, much has changed since 3.0 11:05 Waylon hmmmmmmm.. 11:05 Waylon mandumah.com, working server, is zebra 2.0.43, the new server in devel, is zebra 2.0.52 11:04 Waylon from a intranet search 11:03 Waylon that is from a search 11:03 mtj so, what happens if you do a search? 11:02 Waylon hm. right.. ah.. too late 11:02 mtj http://paste.koha-community.org/ 11:02 Waylon thats all there is. 11:01 Waylon 05:56:56-16/09 zebrasrv(1) [debug] zebra_close zh=0x1250e20 11:01 Waylon 05:56:56-16/09 zebrasrv(1) [debug] Wrote PDU, 183 bytes 11:01 Waylon 05:56:56-16/09 zebrasrv(1) [debug] ir_session (output) 11:01 Waylon 05:56:56-16/09 zebrasrv(1) [debug] result immediately available 11:01 Waylon 05:56:56-16/09 zebrasrv(1) [debug] Segment handler installed 11:01 Waylon 05:56:56-16/09 zebrasrv(1) [debug] Scan handler installed 11:01 Waylon 05:56:56-16/09 zebrasrv(1) [debug] Delete handler installed 11:01 Waylon 05:56:56-16/09 zebrasrv(1) [debug] ESRequest handler installed 11:01 Waylon 05:56:56-16/09 zebrasrv(1) [debug] Search handler installed 11:01 Waylon 05:56:56-16/09 zebrasrv(1) [debug] Sort handler installed 11:01 Waylon 05:56:56-16/09 zebrasrv(1) [debug] zebra_open zs=0x1250570 returns 0x1250e20 11:01 Waylon 05:56:56-16/09 zebrasrv(1) [debug] bend_init 11:00 Waylon 05:56:56-16/09 zebrasrv(1) [debug] server select: config=/usr/local/apps/koha/kohadev-etc/etc/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg 11:00 Waylon 05:56:56-16/09 zebrasrv(1) [debug] Got PDU, 119 bytes: lead=B4 75 83 11:00 Waylon huh.. new Zebra doesn't give the query used? 10:59 Waylon turned on debug level logging in koha-zebra.. 10:59 mtj if no, you've got a debuggable problem - if yes, you've got a trickier problem :/ 10:58 mtj is your zebrasrv behaving similar to your stable koha 10:58 mtj so, is your zeb-rebuild behaving similar to your stable koha 10:56 mtj if you get different outputs to your stable koha, you've got a debuggable problem 10:55 Waylon [log] Dict: inserts/updates/deletions: 3024638/0/0 10:55 mtj my advice…. sort a stable koha to compare against 10:55 Waylon [log] Iterations: isam/dict 291501887/3024638 10:54 Waylon thats 3.0 10:54 Waylon hmm? only the koha currently in production. 10:54 mtj that looks good 10:53 Waylon [log] Records: 196893 i/u/d 196893/0/0 10:53 mtj do yu have a stable koha to compare against? 10:53 Waylon said it completed okay. 10:53 mtj did it complete ok? or barf? 10:52 Waylon why -x? 10:52 Waylon did zebra_rebuild -r -b -a -v -v 10:52 mtj and got a sane count of bibs processes, on completion 10:52 mtj run zebra_rebuild -r -b -x - v , and got no errors 10:51 Waylon whats obvious? 10:50 mtj have you checked all the obvious stuff? 10:50 Waylon and also ran updatedatabase too, since it found it needed doing. 10:50 Waylon yes, i did. 10:49 mtj and run this script? -> misc/maintenance/remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl --run 10:48 mtj did you follow the upgrade notes in INSTALL.debian ? 10:43 Waylon took a old 3.0 biblio db.. upgraded it to master.. used the same zebra config as the old setup... reindexed, got no results. help? 10:22 Waylon hiya all! 10:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #175 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 10:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8520 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Authorities display incorrectly in staff results 10:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8653 normal, P4, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , With DOM indexing turned on subject authority links are not indexed 10:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8743 critical, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , ZOOM error when merging authority change to biblios 10:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8002 critical, P2, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Can't add patron attribute type in newer installation 10:16 jenkins_koha * tomascohen: Bug 8520 - Authorities summary incorrect on posible duplicate notice 10:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6976 major, P1 - high, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , User hold limit can be avoided by users in OPAC 10:16 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 8653 remove erroneous whitespace blocking indexing 10:16 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8743 follow-up, throw a more explanatory error message 10:16 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8743: ZOOM error when merging authority change to biblios 10:16 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8002 : Database bump 10:16 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8002: FIX Change datatype from varchar 1 to 10 for borrower_attribute_types.category_code 10:16 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 6976 Close loophole allowing borrowers extra holds via opac 10:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #174: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/174/ 09:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #174 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 09:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7409 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Missing dependencies for Debian package 09:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8447 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , can't save new records / indicator error 09:14 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7409 : Missing dependency on libtest-mockmodule-perl 09:14 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8447: Make sure we have enough subfields for broader_headings 09:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #173: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/173/ 08:52 * cait waves again 08:46 drojf good day #koha 08:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #173 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 06:43 cait hi #koha 06:17 wajasu later 06:17 Waylon gotta go, back laters 06:17 Waylon yes and yes. 06:10 wajasu and are you sure the zerbasrv is started with the correct KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB 06:09 wajasu when you run a rebuild_zebra -b -a -v do you see reocrds being dumped. 06:08 Waylon ... after another reindex.. still no results 06:07 wajasu i've got to migrate from 3.0 as well. 06:07 wajasu Waylon: i 05:03 cait bye #koha 04:34 cait good morning #koha 03:21 Waylon after copying over the old xslt files to new koha, reindexing. 02:48 Waylon k.. wasn't taht. 02:41 Waylon forgot to create it. 02:40 Waylon the xsl thing. 02:40 Waylon oooo 02:39 Waylon no results. 02:39 Waylon took a old 3.0 biblio db.. upgraded it to master.. used the same zebra config as the old setup... reindexed. 02:38 Waylon hmmm. 01:25 * jcamins leaves to eat dinner, probably won't be back. 01:25 Waylon okay, back in 45 minutes. lunch 01:24 Waylon we are starting to use piwik, i could make the suggestion. 01:22 jcamins I think you're better off using an actual analytics package, rather than trying to use Koha's auditing functionality for crude analytics. 01:21 * jcamins is a strong believer in trying to anticipate problems. 01:20 jcamins upgrade/maintain 01:20 jcamins And you get to upgrade things how often? 01:20 Waylon only by dumping and reinserting yeah. 01:19 jcamins Don't forget you can't free up space. 01:19 * Waylon shrugs. 01:19 Waylon so i think we actually only have 30 accounts.. i think.. 01:19 Waylon one account per university (for some reason i don't know, but thats the way it is) 01:19 jcamins Even just one hit per week from each of those is 500k entries in the log. 01:18 Waylon university students yeah. 01:17 jcamins Didn't you say you had a userbase in the 10000s? 01:16 jcamins The size is going to explode, and it's going to be as slow as heck to get any information out of the log. 01:09 Waylon hmm? what issues? 01:09 jcamins (C4::Log, I mean, not logs generally) 01:09 jcamins Second, you're trying to use the log for analytics, which I expect is going to run into issues of database size. 01:08 Waylon ah, right. yes, so this is strictly a inhouse mod then, as for the company i work with, only one 856 per record. 01:06 jcamins You are eliminating the repeatability of 856s, to start with. 01:05 Waylon whats wrong with it? 01:04 wahanui ah is probably ? 01:04 Waylon ah? 01:04 jcamins frankly, that sounds like a bad idea on so many levels I don't have a response. 01:04 Waylon and therefore, XSLT will be the thing to use. 01:04 jcamins Uhhh... 01:03 Waylon which probably won't be applicable to general use? 01:03 Waylon changes i'll be making, is making the existance of a download, 856u, visible, but the actual url not there, instead, takes one to opac-download.pl?biblio=<biblio> for download tracking purposes, using C4::Log and BorrowerAttributes 01:02 jcamins I believe it is possible to load a remote XSLT stylesheet, though, by using a fully-qualified URL. 01:02 jcamins Yes. 01:01 Waylon right. XSLT happens serverside, right? 01:00 jcamins However, if what you need is generally applicable, it's much better to get your changes upstream, so that any future improvements are available to you. 00:59 jcamins One of the neat features for XSLT is that if the display you want is not at all suitable for inclusion upstream, you can specify your own custom XSLT. 00:59 jcamins Waylon: XSLT has, generally-speaking, replaced "normal" mode. 00:55 wahanui xslt is a maze of twisty turny passages, all alike. or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XSLT and the pages at http://cs.au.dk/~amoeller/XML/transformation/ may be useful for learning the basics. 00:55 jcamins xslt? 00:55 wahanui okay, jcamins. 00:55 jcamins wahanui: xslt is also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XSLT and the pages at http://cs.au.dk/~amoeller/XML/transformation/ may be useful for learning the basics. 00:54 Waylon ah.. exactly what i want to use then. 00:53 wahanui xyzzy is cheating! Cheater! 00:53 Waylon xyzzy? 00:53 Waylon xyzzy is cheating! Cheater! 00:53 jcamins eXtensible Stylesheet Language for Transformations. 00:53 Waylon xyzzy? 00:53 Waylon grue? 00:52 wahanui ...but xslt is a maze of twisty turny passages, all alike.... 00:52 jcamins XSLT is not that hard, wahanui. 00:52 Waylon no.. that sounds like zork. 00:52 jcamins lol 00:52 wahanui XSLT is a maze of twisty turny passages, all alike. 00:52 Waylon okay, what is XSLT? 00:52 jcamins Otherwise, no. 00:52 jcamins Waylon: it depends. If you have XSLT mode turned on then yes, XSLT is involved. 00:51 * jcamins stops by while waiting for his bread to bake. 00:51 Waylon or something? 00:51 Waylon is there a xslt file involved? 00:51 Waylon what determines the display format of search results? 00:48 Waylon hey all.