Time  Nick            Message
00:06 jcamins         Well, there's 3.6.9 pushed.
00:11 jenkins_koha    Starting build #58 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:33 wizzyrea        jcamins++
00:36 jcamins         3.6.10 will have a lot of niggling little potential problems fixed.
00:36 jcamins         Default sorting, etc.
00:40 jcamins         Default sorting, that sort of thing.
00:40 jcamins         Oh, I already said that.
00:40 * jcamins       is hungry.
00:40 jcamins         :)
00:40 jcamins         Is there any way to make prove bail the moment it encounters an error?
00:47 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.8.x build #169: SUCCESS in 1 hr 20 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/169/
00:47 jenkins_koha    * melia: Bug 7143: Adding Kathryn Tyree to the history and About page.
00:47 jenkins_koha    * Paul Poulain: Bug 7143 tiny follow-up, removing tabs
00:47 jenkins_koha    * mjr: Bug 7068 - autobarcode not working when duplicating patrons
00:47 jenkins_koha    * julian.maurice: Bug 3456: Show internalnotes when receiving serials
00:47 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
00:47 jenkins_koha    * robin: Bug 8716 - make the routing list reordering function work
00:47 jenkins_koha    * oleonard: Bug 8677 - table overlapping to the right on holds waiting
00:47 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7068 major, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Pushed to Stable , autobarcode not working when duplicating patrons
00:47 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3456 minor, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Serials receipt note
00:47 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8716 normal, P4, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Reordering of routing list entries doesn't work
00:47 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8677 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , table overlapping to the right on holds waiting
00:47 jenkins_koha    Starting build #170 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:48 jcamins         Why is XISBN failing?
00:50 jcamins         Oh.
00:50 jcamins         Because PERL5LIB wasn't set correctly.
00:55 * jcamins       fixes this in release-test.pl
00:57 jcamins         Sorry, folks. I force-pushed release-tools to my github repo.
01:11 jcamins         3.6-testing has been updated as well.
01:23 rangi           back
01:35 rangi           hmm bug 8017
01:35 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8017 minor, P4, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Remove unnecessary processing on return of GetAllIssues
01:38 * rangi         tests
01:39 rangi           id like this in 3.8.5 it is a decent performance improvement
01:39 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.6.x build #58: SUCCESS in 1 hr 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/58/
01:39 jenkins_koha    * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6394: purchase order has French strings hard coded in
01:39 jenkins_koha    * chrish: bug 8322 removing additional spaces before fullstop on catalogue/detail and opac-detail pages.
01:39 jenkins_koha    * nengard: Bug 8351: Update wording on staged marc
01:39 jenkins_koha    * dcook: Bug 8422 - Fix impossible warning in circulation.pl when OverduesBlockCirc set to Block
01:39 jenkins_koha    * mtompset: Bug 8458 - $stemmed_operand in C4::Search _build_stemmed_operand is not initialized. Added =q{} to initialize it to the empty string at declaration time.
01:39 jenkins_koha    * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8476: Little bug in OPAC XSLT on OPACURLOpenInNewWindow
01:39 jenkins_koha    * dpavlin: Bug 8439 - Printing basketgroup does not work on plack
01:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6394 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , purchase order has french hard coded in
01:39 jenkins_koha    * magnus: Bug 7367 - One "the" too many
01:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8322 minor, P5 - low, ---, chrish, Pushed to Stable , Removing space between end of marc data and fullstops
01:39 jenkins_koha    * mtj: Bug 8470: remove depreciated H:T:P test
01:39 jenkins_koha    * savitra.sirohi: Bug 7153 - Show Open Library as Search Target in "More Searches" in OPAC detail page
01:39 jenkins_koha    * Chris Cormack: Bug 7143: Updating history and about file
01:39 jenkins_koha    * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8503: Software error in edit items with EasyAnalyticalRecords
01:39 jenkins_koha    * veron: Bug 8518 - Self checkout does not display debt amount if syspref AllowFineOverride is set to allow
01:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8351 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , fix wording when undoing an import
01:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8422 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Fix impossible warning in circulation.pl when OverduesBlockCirc set to Block
01:39 jenkins_koha    * f.demians: Bug 6267: [SIGNED-OFF]Fix a typo
01:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8458 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , $stemmed_operand in C4::Search _build_stemmed_operand is not initialized.
01:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8476 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Little bug in OPAC XSLT on OPACURLOpenInNewWindow
01:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8439 critical, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , Printing basketgroup does not work on plack
01:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7367 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , General OPAC typo omnibus
01:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8470 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , remove  depreciated  H:T:P test file
01:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7153 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, savitra.sirohi, Pushed to Stable , Show Open Library as Search Target in "More Searches" in OPAC detail page
01:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
01:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8503 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Software error n edit items with EasyAnalyticalRecords
01:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8518 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Self checkout does not display debt amount if syspref AllowFineOverride is set to allow
01:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6267 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , custom http user-agent in check-url.pl (fix for books.google.com 401 error)
01:42 rangi           well that clinches that, it doesnt apply
02:16 BobB            rangi, bug 8253 is not going to make it into 3.8.5, it seems?
02:16 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8253 blocker, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Failed QA , Fine doubling
02:17 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.8.x build #170: SUCCESS in 1 hr 30 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/170/
02:17 jenkins_koha    mtompset: Bug 8339 - div id="login" should be id="login_controls" in header.inc
02:17 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8339 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , div id="login" should be id="login_controls" in header.inc
02:19 rangi           it might
02:19 rangi           it doesnt have any string changes
02:20 rangi           if it gets passed qa and into master before the 22nd it has a chance
02:20 BobB            Ok, wish I could help with that one ..
02:35 drojf           excuse
02:35 wahanui         drojf: The static electricity routing is acting up...
02:35 drojf           excuse
02:35 wahanui         drojf: We're upgrading /dev/null
02:35 drojf           that'll do
02:35 rangi           you are up late drojf
02:35 rangi           too excited cait is visiting? :)
02:35 drojf           true .9
02:35 drojf           :)
02:36 drojf           [off] a friend from abroad is in town. went out a little longer than expected ;)
02:36 rangi           ahhh
02:37 drojf           excited about that conference though
02:37 Waylon          hey all.
02:37 drojf           i have no idea how interested in koha people will be
02:37 rangi           hi Waylon
02:38 rangi           drojf: hopefully there will be some interest
02:38 drojf           or if they will be interested at all ^^
02:38 drojf           rangi: yes i hope so too. i'm pretty positive about that. i mean, how could they NOT be interested in koha?!
02:39 rangi           :)
02:39 drojf           hi Waylon
02:40 Waylon          hey, is anyone familiar with virtuhosts, does one need a seperate virtuhost per subdomain, if they want to do stuff based on $env->{host}?
02:40 Waylon          or whatever it is that captures the hostname used.
02:40 Waylon          or is it easier to capture the entire url used, and then isolate the hostname?
02:41 rangi           no idea
02:59 Waylon          hmmm
03:00 Waylon          ServerAlias *.intranet.mandumah.com didn't work. it took me to the default instead.
03:08 cait            morning
03:08 cait            drojf: why are you still here? :)
03:44 wajasu          tomorrow when i wake up all ready for GBSD, i'll hit irc and everyone will be going.  "great fun! that was the best gbsd ever!" and i'll have missed it. oh well.
03:45 cait            lol
03:45 cait            you can have your own gbsd anytime :)
03:46 cait            and it will always be fun to hit irc
03:46 cait            well..perhaps not so much before six in the morning... but in general it is
03:51 Waylon          how is it, we getting commit logs, that are old, at the top?
03:53 rangi           what?
03:53 Waylon          ahhh.. nevermind.
03:53 Waylon          figured out... authored date, and committed date, two different things.
03:53 rangi           *nod*
03:53 Waylon          and git log shows only authored date.
03:54 rangi           by default yes
03:55 rangi           try git log --pretty=fuller
03:56 rangi           that will show both dates
03:58 Waylon          when is the GBSD in NZtime anyway?
03:58 rangi           its always in your own timezone
03:58 rangi           so it's been all day
03:58 Waylon          ah.
03:58 rangi           so the actual day lasts nearly 48 hours
03:58 Waylon          what a strange day..
03:58 rangi           well it would if we had ppl in kiribati
03:59 rangi           but its friday for everybody
03:59 rangi           its the easiest way to do it
03:59 Waylon          friday?
03:59 wahanui         friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday
03:59 Waylon          haha
03:59 Waylon          thought so.
04:00 Waylon          comedy?
04:00 wahanui         i think comedy is funny indeed. Ask me about [solr] and [germs].
04:00 Waylon          wahanui, forget comedy
04:00 wahanui         Waylon: I forgot comedy
04:00 Waylon          comedy is funny indeed. Ask me about [solr], [germs] and [friday].
04:00 Waylon          wahanui, comedy is funny indeed. Ask me about [solr], [germs] and [friday].
04:00 wahanui         i already had it that way, Waylon.
04:01 Waylon          huh?
04:01 Waylon          comedy?
04:01 wahanui         rumour has it comedy is funny indeed. Ask me about [solr], [germs] and [friday]
04:01 Waylon          .... wow.
04:05 wizzyrea        solr?
04:05 wahanui         solr is fast, really fast, faster than me! And koha wiki has a page about it, found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Solr/Lucene_Documentation
04:05 wizzyrea        friday?
04:05 wahanui         friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday
04:05 wizzyrea        lulz
04:07 rangi           why is wizzyrea still awake?
04:07 rangi           or at least at a computer?
04:08 wizzyrea        retreat day!
04:09 rangi           oh thats right
04:09 wizzyrea        no family = no incentive to get off the computer :P
04:09 rangi           hehe :)
04:09 rangi           interesting facts for the day
04:10 rangi           since september 2009 there have been 5957 commits to koha from 146 developers
04:10 wizzyrea        wow!
04:11 rangi           pretty neat eh
04:11 rangi           another fun fact
04:12 rangi           its beer oclock
04:12 wizzyrea        word go go
04:12 ibeardslee      woot .. although it is also a sysadmin leaving o'clock
04:13 * wizzyrea      waves bye
04:15 Waylon          funfact?
04:16 Waylon          wahanui, a fun fact is since september 2009 there have been 5957 commits to koha from 146 developers
04:16 wahanui         OK, Waylon.
04:52 Waylon          hmm..
04:53 Waylon          updating koha 3.0 to master
04:53 Waylon          make upgrade: make: *** No rule to make target `koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/images/browse-next.gif', needed by `pm_to_blib'.  Stop.
04:54 Waylon          i already have the master branch files installed.. i just want to upgrade the db.
05:24 Waylon          might it be easier to export the marc from 3.0, import it into master, and write a export/import for members info?
05:46 Oak             Ahoy me hearties
05:47 magnuse         Oak
05:47 Oak             @later tell cait project report submitted
05:47 huginn          Oak: The operation succeeded.
05:47 Oak             magnuse
05:47 Oak             :)
05:47 magnuse         \o/
05:47 Oak             thank you thank you
05:47 Oak             breatfast time... brb
05:47 magnuse         :-)
05:48 Oak             :^)
05:48 magnuse         ...and happy GBSD, #koha!
05:57 * magnuse       takes Bug 8300 for a spin
05:57 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Koha should have mechanized testing suite
06:04 alex_a          bonjour #koha
06:05 mtj             hi magnuse , alex_a
06:05 magnuse         kia ora alex_a and mtj
06:09 alex_a          hi mtj magnuse
06:49 reiveune        hello
06:51 magnuse         bonjour reiveune & julian_m
06:51 julian_m        hello magnuse
06:51 reiveune        hi magnuse :)
07:15 gaetan_B        hello
07:46 cait            good morning #koha
07:49 cait_travelling hi Irma :)
07:52 mtj             morning cait , irma
07:54 cait_travelling hi mtj :)
07:57 gaetan_B        in MARC21, is there any other field than 000 that *has* to exist in a biblio for Koha to work ?
07:58 mtompset        There are some fields in 952, I believe.
07:58 Irma            hi cait_travelling and mtj and #koha
07:59 cait_travelling hm
07:59 mtompset        I say that because of http://bywatersolutions.com/2012/01/18/using-marcedit-to-add-koha-items/
07:59 cait_travelling someone else seen this when updating their database ot current master?
07:59 cait_travelling [Fri Sep 14 09:55:19 2012] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed:  Duplicate column name 'ccode' at  /home/katrin/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 5774.
07:59 mtompset        But to be honest, I don't know.
07:59 gaetan_B        mtompset: item fields ?
08:00 mtompset        Well, biblios should work without item fields, I think. So, you can ignore me. :)
08:15 magnuse         yeah, if you do add items there are some mandatory subfields, but items are not mandatory :-)
08:15 magnuse         cait_travelling: i just updated an instance (through the web installer) and did not get any errors
08:16 magnuse         gah
08:22 mtompset        Okay, I'm not totally out to lunch. Thanks, magnuse. :)
08:24 mtompset        What was the gah for, magnuse?
08:24 magnuse         cait_travelling: i just updated an instance (through the web installer) and did not get any errors
08:25 magnuse         cait quitting just as i was answering her :-)
08:25 cait_travel     hi magnuse  :)
08:25 cait_travel     OH
08:25 cait_travel     now I filed a bug
08:25 cait_travel     wonder what's going wrong
08:25 cait_travel     i don't remember testing this and my database should be clean anyway
08:25 cait_travel     hm.
08:26 cait_travel     maybe it's some inconcistency depending on age of database?
08:26 magnuse         hiya cait_travel
08:26 magnuse         hm, could be?
08:31 cait_travel     well... it's documented now :)
08:33 magnuse         and i added my experience from the web installer
08:36 cait_travel     I see :) but the version number is missing for you too :)
08:37 magnuse         yup, it is
09:08 mtompset        Question: I give Paul the solution I think he is looking for, is that encouraging bad behaviour?
09:08 mtompset        ^should I give^
09:11 magnuse         if it can be done with jquery it's probably better than changing the template?
09:13 mtompset        How do you click the tab to be default?
09:13 magnuse         not sure...
09:18 cait            *sigh*
09:22 mtompset        do you know how to execute jquery from Firefox using Firebug?
09:22 magnuse         gah, i'm out of practice with signing off...
09:22 cait_travel     there is a blog post on owen's blog about that I think
09:23 cait_travel     magnuse: need help? :)
09:23 cait_travel     internet connection annoying from the train, still fighting with work email
09:23 magnuse         i do " git bz attach -e 8764 HEAD" and get to uncomment the Obsoletes line, but then i get a bunch of html and "Failed to attach patch to bug 8764, status=200"?
09:23 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8764 trivial, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Template change "Authors" to "Additional authors" in OPAC
09:25 mtompset        cait_travel++
09:25 magnuse         ah, i just had the wrong username...
09:26 cait_travel     magnuse: are you logged in?
09:26 cait_travel     oh. hehe
09:26 magnuse         that was my first signoff in *ages* - phew
09:27 magnuse         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration says "It is still considered good practice to send the signed off patch to the patches mailing list." is that still true?
09:27 magnuse         and i'm already on the Scoreboard - woohoo!
09:31 cait_travel     magnuse: I think most poeple stopped doing it
09:32 magnuse         that's what i thought too
09:35 cait_travel     stupid internet connection
09:46 mtompset        YUCK! Why is the jquery solution (which is admittedly the better way) so much harder to do?
09:49 mtompset        Modifying a single template is moving one line.
09:49 mtompset        jquery... I have to have at least 6 lines of code.
09:49 mtj             magnuse, i know chric.c was big on patches, to the list when he was RM
09:50 magnuse         yeah, but paul_p seems more relaxed, i think?
09:50 mtj             … but since we got git-bz, its not important now
09:50 magnuse         yeah
09:50 mtj             ie: we found a better tool (git-bz) so no need now
09:51 mtj             chris.c uses git-bz, not mutt-mail, to apply/attach patches now
09:52 Joubu           hello #koha
09:53 cait_travel     hi Joubu
09:56 mtj             ( ^^ i think everything i said above is true...)
09:56 mtj             something something … now
09:57 magnuse         mtj: so maybe we should just remove that line from the wiki page?
09:59 mtj             well, perhaps send a quick email to the dev-list, about it?
09:59 mtj             if we get no complaints, then done!
09:59 mtj             i imagine it must waste a lot of time… for something that might not be needed anymore?
10:01 mtj             i stopped emailing, and following, the patches list ages ago
10:01 mtj             i just focus on patches/dev-stuff thru bugzilla, now
10:02 magnuse         mail sent
10:02 mtj             … and im 10x more productive because of it :)
10:02 mtj             git-bz++
10:03 mtompset        The question is... how would you know about the patches? the bugs list?
10:06 mtj             shit, i dunno…? i worked it out somehow...
10:07 mtj             mailing-lists?
10:07 mtj             mailinglists?
10:07 mtompset        I do think that it doesn't make to post it to patches, if it is on bugzilla, because those do get sent to the bugs list. But if you aren't subscribed to the bugs list, you'd have to be hunting through bugzilla.
10:07 mtompset        lists?
10:07 mtompset        mailing?
10:08 mtompset        I think there is a point lacking in wahanui's knowledge.
10:08 mtj             ah, here we go....
10:08 mtj             http://koha-community.org
10:08 mtj             http://koha-community.org/support/
10:08 mtj             http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
10:09 magnuse         hm, those tweets from KohaGBSD are completely nuts, aren't they?
10:09 mtompset        wahanui: mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
10:09 wahanui         i already had it that way, mtompset.
10:09 mtompset        mailing list?
10:09 wahanui         mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
10:10 mtompset        wahanui: mailing lists are mailing list.
10:10 wahanui         ...but mailing lists is at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/...
10:10 wahanui         ...but mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/...
10:10 mtompset        wahanui: mailing-lists are mailing list.
10:10 wahanui         OK, mtompset.
10:10 mtompset        wahanui: mailinglists are mailing list.
10:10 wahanui         OK, mtompset.
10:11 mtompset        curses! The last hour of networking issues: a blasted unplugged cable!
10:12 mtj             magnuse, the GSBD tweets look ok to me?
10:13 mtj             im curious, how are they automated?
10:14 magnuse         mtj: rss from bz + http://twitterfeed.com/
10:14 magnuse         mtj: the next to last one was: Needs SO: [Bug 8730] browse overlaying powered by http://t.co/sfGcX5NY #kohails
10:14 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8730 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , browse overlaying powered by
10:14 magnuse         but as you can see it's pushed to master
10:15 magnuse         so why does it say "Needs SO"?
10:15 mtj             magnuse, nice technique! :)
10:17 mtj             magnuse, aah pass on that, its some regex glitch on twitterfeed, i guess??
10:19 mtj             hey… close enuff for now :)
10:19 magnuse         yeah, and no time to investigate...
10:42 * cait          waves
10:42 * paul_p        did not pushed so many things this morning (but failed QA 2 large enhancements :- after a deep examination)
10:43 paul_p          time for lunch. See you in a moment.
10:43 cait            bon apetit
10:51 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8719: Private lists always sorted by title <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0acebb8fc6f388716d424648b71d446f21538a5c> / Bug 8721: Fixes minor typo in AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c2e5ae2e66d78d40b1106be54ff2bc626e53b370> / Bug 8730 - browse overlaying powered by <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d
10:52 jcamins_away    paul_p: troubleshooting 2060 now.
10:52 Amit_Gupta      heya ciat
10:52 Amit_Gupta      heya cait
10:56 jenkins_koha    Starting build #830 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 11 days ago)
10:56 vfernandes      hi Koha people :)
10:57 mtompset        Oh shoot! My email client messed up.
10:57 vfernandes      this weeks I've been working on my first MARC21 setup
10:58 vfernandes      I can say that MARC21 and UNIMARC works very well in Koha :)
11:00 vfernandes      two questions: I need to include in my searches the caracter #, because for example if I search C or C# the results are the same
11:00 jcamins_away    vfernandes: that unfortunately cannot be done.
11:01 jcamins         Well... not without massacreing your configuration.
11:01 vfernandes      I suspect that because with Lucene there are also some characters that doesn't work
11:04 vfernandes      another question: who I can search always in the beginning of the field?
11:04 vfernandes      for example I want to return the callnumber started with "CD-XX"
11:08 * jcamins       is thinking about whether this is possible generally speaking.
11:09 jcamins         You could try callnum,rt,phr,complete-field
11:09 jcamins         Not sure if it will work.
11:10 vfernandes      there is any code like ^CD-XX?
11:11 jcamins         That's what I just suggested.
11:11 jcamins         (the equivalent)
11:21 jcamins         paul_p: the reason I didn't encounter problems is that I had my leader wrong.
11:22 jcamins         (with bug 2060)
11:22 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client
11:31 * paul_p        back from lunch
11:49 jcamins         paul_p: the problem on bug 2060 is the silly "UNIMARCAUTH is a different format than UNIMARC" issue.
11:49 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client
11:49 paul_p          jcamins /me not surprised ...
11:50 paul_p          a big hurray to ppl that designed unimarc authorities !!!
11:50 jcamins         paul_p: at some point I will have to learn to tell the difference between an authority leader and a bib leader in UNIMARC so I'll be able to tell when I'm using the wrong one.
11:53 paul_p          jcamins grep -R "UNIMARCAUTH" * is helpfull ;-)
11:53 jcamins         paul_p: yeah, I figured out where we run into the problem.
11:53 jcamins         What I can't figure out is why passing in "UNIMARCAUTH" doesn't make a difference.
11:55 paul_p          jcamins which file/line are u investigating ?
11:56 jcamins         C4/ImportBatch.pm, around line 1346, in the _create_import_record function.
11:57 paul_p          jcamins what about replacing $marc_record->as_xml(C4::Context->preference('marcflavour')) by
11:57 paul_p          $marc_record->as_xml(C4::Context->preference('marcflavour') eq 'UNIMARC':'UNIMARCAUTH':C4::Context->preference('marcflavour')) ?
11:58 jcamins         paul_p: I tried that and it still doesn't like me. :/
11:59 paul_p          jcamins = where do you DECODE the marc record ?
12:00 paul_p          jcamins = line 1346 is where you re-code the record for storing it if I understand well
12:00 paul_p          jcamins = the problem appears when you decode the uploaded file maybe ?
12:00 jcamins         Right.
12:00 jcamins         There's an error in uploading the file, too.
12:01 jcamins         Seems to be a problem at both points.
12:02 * cait          waves
12:02 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #830: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/830/
12:02 jenkins_koha    * oleonard: Bug 8730 - browse overlaying powered by
12:02 jenkins_koha    * nengard: Bug 8721: Fixes minor typo in AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout
12:02 jenkins_koha    * adrien.saurat: Bug 8719: Private lists always sorted by title
12:02 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8730 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , browse overlaying powered by
12:02 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8721 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , typo in  AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout
12:02 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8719 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Private lists always sorted by title (even when author or date is selected)
12:03 jcamins         You know what?
12:03 jcamins         I don't think UNIMARCAUTH works.
12:03 jcamins         I think the string we are supposd to be using changed.
12:04 * paul_p        head to a 20mn meeting
12:08 jcamins         Okay, found the problem.
12:08 jcamins         Well, the first problem.
12:08 wahanui         the first problem is probably that it's unexpected behavior
12:08 jcamins         These authorities are not in UNIMARCAUTH format.
12:11 jcamins         No, they are.
12:11 * jcamins       ponders.
12:11 jcamins         Ah-ha
12:12 jcamins         !
12:12 oleonard        Hi GBSD'ers.
12:12 wajasu          hi
12:13 magnuse         hiya oleonard
12:13 jcamins         We are forcibly setting the 100 field somewhere.
12:14 magnuse         #info 68 bugs need signoff...
12:14 oleonard        Okay, who's putting more on the pile?
12:15 cait            hi oleonard :)
12:17 * cait          cheers jcamins on
12:19 jcamins         Why would we do this?
12:19 jcamins         No, no.
12:19 jcamins         Don't tell me.
12:19 jcamins         I don't want to know.
12:20 magnuse         @get quote 123 ?
12:20 huginn          magnuse: Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, Lart, Quote, and ReleaseDay plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get".
12:20 wahanui         i already had it that way, huginn.
12:21 magnuse         @quote get 123 ?
12:21 huginn          magnuse: (quote get [<channel>] <id>) -- Gets the quote with id <id> from the quote database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
12:21 magnuse         quote get 123
12:21 magnuse         @quote get 123
12:21 huginn          magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
12:21 jcamins         The horror!!!!
12:21 jcamins         (no worries, I see how to fix it now)
12:21 jcamins         (it's just... ewwwww)
12:24 wizzyrea        lol. now we need definitions for "the first problem" and "the second problem"
12:24 wizzyrea        and so on
12:25 jcamins         No, that didn't fix it either.
12:25 * wizzyrea      watches you all doing a double take --- a wizzyrea at 7:30 am?
12:25 jcamins         Hehe.
12:25 wizzyrea        THE HORROR.
12:25 wizzyrea        ;)
12:25 jcamins         Sorry, my double take was delayed by my horror about UNIMARCAUTH.
12:25 wizzyrea        well there's that
12:26 oleonard        Okay, so who wants to lobby for their patch?
12:26 jcamins         Only a large, totally drunk and mostly high committee would come up with this abomination.
12:26 oleonard        I didn't know they did this kind of work at Burning Man.
12:27 cait            excuse?
12:27 wahanui         cait: Neutrino overload on the nameserver
12:27 magnuse         lol
12:27 cait            oh that explains.
12:28 wizzyrea        oh please someone quote add that exchange between jcamins and oleonard
12:28 wizzyrea        the one about burning man
12:28 cait            oleonard: I  am lobbying for the patches on paul's list
12:28 wizzyrea        i about fell off of my bed.
12:28 cait            that he won't push after 22nd :)
12:29 oleonard        Where is that list cait?
12:29 jcamins         Wonder of wonder, miracle of miracles!
12:29 jcamins         It may have worked!
12:30 jcamins         Well, we got further anyway.
12:30 magnuse         rm newsletter
12:31 magnuse         bugs that need attention before september 22: http://koha-community.org/koha-release-manager-newsletter-10-2012-08/
12:32 jcamins         Oh, it did work.
12:32 jcamins         Cool.
12:33 magnuse         yay
12:34 paul_p          oleonard = I agree with magnuse = Lobby for patches needing attention before sept 22th !
12:34 paul_p          good morning "morningers" ;-)
12:36 oleonard        <grumble>Everything I look at lacks a test plan</grumble>
12:36 jcamins         oleonard: mine have test plans. :)
12:36 jcamins         Mine also are all signed off.
12:36 jcamins         paul_p: I got it working.
12:37 jcamins         Just removing about 500 warns before posting a follow-up.
12:38 magnuse         jcamins: i failed bug 8300
12:38 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , Koha should have mechanized testing suite
12:38 * magnuse       ducks
12:38 jcamins         magnuse: I saw.
12:38 jcamins         I'm not trying again.
12:38 paul_p          oleonard = /me feel you could write a mail to koha-devel about "how to write a test plan". Because, I agree, that's missing in too many bugs/patches !!!
12:38 jcamins         I can run it just as easily without it being in kohaclone.
12:39 paul_p          s/how to/why you shoulw/
12:39 paul_p          s/how to/why you should/
12:39 magnuse         jcamins: the fix is easy and included in my comment...
12:39 jcamins         magnuse: oh, I didn't see that.
12:39 jcamins         :)
12:39 * jcamins       was already on bug 2060 when he saw 8300.
12:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client
12:40 jcamins         In that case, I'll try again, later. :)
12:41 magnuse         yay! and never mind my suggestion of a readme, i can add that
12:43 jcamins         Okay, now I get a bizarre "parseerror" when reverting things.
12:44 jcamins         (but the actual revert works fine)
12:46 jcamins         I had commented out the close STDERR.
12:52 jcamins         paul_p: follow-up posted to bug 2060.
12:52 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client
12:53 jcamins         mtj: I already signed off on bug 7589.
12:53 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7589 blocker, P1 - high, ---, robin, Signed Off , tinymce editor broken in .deb packages - in 'en' templates
12:53 jcamins         oleonard: wizzyrea: you may appreciate my commit message on the bug 2060 follow-up.
12:54 oleonard        I think jcamins is getting punchy. Were you up all night?
12:54 mtj             jcamins, oops s/signoff/pass-qa/ :)
12:55 jcamins         oleonard: no, but UNIMARC authorities give me a pounding headache.
12:55 jcamins         And that's actually a *very* accurate summary of the problem.
12:55 oleonard        You're a brave man jcamins
12:56 jcamins         I know.
12:57 jcamins         Anyone sensible would have run away screaming.
12:58 wizzyrea        jcamins: lol.
12:59 gaetan_B        oleonard: i realized my mistake for the favicon... and learnt what stable releases really are ;)
12:59 gaetan_B        so there is no bug indeed
12:59 oleonard        I'm glad to hear it
13:00 mtompset        Does every page in the staff client have a header_search area?
13:00 oleonard        Not every one mtompset
13:00 mtompset        Okay... Good, so I do need to check that. :)
13:01 oleonard        Check in what sense?
13:01 cait            now I am curious
13:01 cait            but internet is too bad to find out what he wrote
13:01 mtompset        If the header_search area exists, so that I can select via jquery the "search the catalog" tab.
13:01 jcamins         magnuse: updated.
13:02 cait            oleonard++
13:02 mtompset        Because actually, that post voiced something that has personally been bugging me. :)
13:02 oleonard        mtompset: If you try to select something in jquery and it doesn't exist jquery will not complain, so I don't think you need to check first
13:03 jcamins         Hehe. Yeah, that overflow on bug 8726 is quite something.
13:03 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8726 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Did you mean? plugin for broader/narrower/related terms
13:03 mtompset        There's something about not putting error checking in that bugs me. :)
13:04 mtompset        Okay... about to test my first ever jquery script.
13:04 mtompset        Is // comment?
13:04 magnuse         mtompset: in javascript, yes
13:10 mtompset        Almost... I need to delay triggering this script until the page is loaded.
13:11 mtompset        Any ideas, oleonard?
13:11 oleonard        Maybe $(window).ready()
13:11 oleonard        I've found that to be tricky.
13:14 mtompset        Eeew... in Firebug: $(window).ready() -- "TypeError: E is undefined"
13:15 mtompset        only works in a page being loaded?
13:15 oleonard        mtompset: Probably because you're testing in the console rather than on a real page?
13:15 * oleonard      is guessing
13:15 mtompset        Yes.
13:15 mtompset        i was.
13:19 mtompset        I went with $(window).load... seems okay.
13:20 mtompset        Oops... got an obi-1 error.
13:23 mtompset        Or maybe not... not quite working... Is there a sleep in milliseconds in javascript?
13:24 oleonard        Look at settimeout mtompset
13:24 mtompset        Thanks, oleonard.
13:24 mtompset        oleonard++ # for saving 8339 from Failed QA hell.
13:24 mtompset        oleonard++ # for helping with the javascript.
13:25 oleonard        mtompset: 8339 wasn't Failed QA for nearly long enough to call it QA hell ;)
13:25 mtompset        It was its third time there.
13:31 magnuse         jcamins: bug 8300 signed off, even if i have not tested on a unimarc setup
13:31 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Koha should have mechanized testing suite
13:34 jcamins         magnuse: yeah, you have to have a completely-configured UNIMARC system in order to run the UNIMARC tests.
13:34 * magnuse       thought so
13:35 clrh            hello
13:35 oleonard        Hi clrh
13:35 magnuse         kia ora clrh!
13:36 clrh            hello oleonard magnuse
13:43 oleonard        I woke up this morning thinking maybe today was the day I would rename the IndependantBranches system preference.
13:44 magnuse         hehe
13:44 mtj             hmm, i might fire up the old twerpbot..
13:44 * magnuse       cheers oleonard on
13:44 mtompset        twerpbot?
13:44 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Failed QA: [Bug 7671] add a real primary key "accountlinesid" in accountlines http://t.co/j9So7Ghn #kohails"
13:44 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7671 major, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, Passed QA , add a real primary key "accountlinesid" in accountlines
13:44 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Needs SO: [Bug 8765] Add series title to intranet search results http://t.co/JkEHmwN4 #kohails"
13:44 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8765 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Add series title to intranet search results
13:44 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Needs SO: [Bug 8617] Problem with display of comments waiting for moderation in OPAC http://t.co/VfkvrzLb #kohails"
13:44 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8617 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Problem with display of comments waiting for moderation in OPAC
13:45 mtj             … see if its still going bananas
13:46 mtj             it seemed to be stuck in a negative-reality-inversion loop,  last week /
13:47 mtj             tho, the folks over on the #dancer channel said there's was doing the same thing
13:48 mtj             s/there/their/ :)
13:48 jcamins         8726 will have to wait until later.
13:50 mtj             someone ping me if they spot the bot posting duped tweets, pls :)
13:51 magnuse         gah, what's the name of that site we have used once or twice to pick a date for something? where yo can say what you prefer, among several alternatives
13:52 oleonard        Doodle.com?
13:53 oleonard        Don't know if we've used it, but I've seen it used.
13:53 magnuse         thanks oleonard, i think that was the one i was thinking about!
14:00 mtompset        My jquery is valid, but I can't seem to get it to run at the right time.
14:00 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Signed off: [Bug 8508] Holds to Pull : Library dropdown options are erroneously concatenated by br tags http://t.co/r2oafs6U #kohails"
14:00 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Signed off: [Bug 8300] Koha should have mechanized testing suite http://t.co/fDrausSU #kohails"
14:00 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8508 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Holds to Pull : Library dropdown options are erroneously concatenated by br tags
14:00 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Koha should have mechanized testing suite
14:05 oleonard        Bug 8302 is simple enough but I'm not crazy about adding more complexity to the OPAC
14:05 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8302 normal, P5 - low, ---, meenakshi.r, Needs Signoff , Add accesssion number to the drop down list in OPAC Search.
14:06 oleonard        We already offer a barcode search from the advanced search page. Doing a barcode search seems advanced to me, from a patron point of view.
14:07 paul_p          you know what ? Yesterday at 9AM I had 19 patches in "passed QA" status. 10 hours later, I had ... 19 patches in "passed QA" status. Believe how many I have now ?
14:08 oleonard        19?
14:08 wahanui         19 is ok, its 17
14:08 paul_p          oleonard how did you find ? :D
14:08 oleonard        wahanui you are not always a good math teacher
14:08 wahanui         ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow....
14:09 mtj             i know a few librarians that have asked for a barcode option, in the main dropdown
14:09 mtj             my 2 cents...
14:10 oleonard        The problem is that the patron and the librarian have different needs
14:11 mtj             paul_p, heres a nice graph of bug activity this week -> http://munin.kohaaloha.com/static/dynazoom.html?plugin_name=kohaaloha.com/xen3.kohaaloha.com/koha_bz_head&size_x=800&size_y=400&start_epoch=1346940443&stop_epoch=1347631643
14:11 mtj             oleonard, yeah good point there :)
14:12 mtj             im not sure if they ask for themselves, or for their users
14:15 * cait          waves
14:15 cait            finally real internet
14:16 cait            hi Oak :)
14:16 cait            great news about your project report :)
14:16 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Resolved: [Bug 8495] Javascript error when creating a new order http://t.co/ncvecLsT #kohails"
14:16 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8495 blocker, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, Javascript error when creating a new order
14:16 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Resolved: [Bug 8575] Number of items expected is wrong http://t.co/YiyuTN0U #kohails"
14:16 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8575 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, Number of items expected is wrong
14:16 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Pushed: [Bug 8495] Javascript error when creating a new order http://t.co/ncvecLsT #kohails"
14:18 wizzyrea        so, i'm looking at this idea of gamifying koha
14:19 wizzyrea        NEKLS hasa ton of wordpress libraries
14:19 wizzyrea        there are people working on a plugin to make badges within wordpress
14:19 wizzyrea        and they are still in alpha
14:19 wizzyrea        BUT
14:19 wizzyrea        I can see how it might be possible with the public reports
14:19 wizzyrea        to tie them together
14:19 wizzyrea        just saying.
14:20 wizzyrea        keep these thoughts in your minds :)
14:20 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8743' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e7a3ced9219a00bcc4d585bad088cc4d26fcf2c> / Bug 8743 follow-up, throw a more explanatory error message <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f22d9e1337183dfe6afe2fb014841bf17d657a11> / Bug 8743: ZOOM error when merging authority change to biblios <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb
14:23 mtompset        ARG! My initial worry was correct. The script in the header_search block isn't always the first thing.
14:26 jenkins_koha    Starting build #831 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 11 days ago)
14:30 mtompset        does firebug do javascript stepping?
14:32 mtompset        Sweet... it does.
14:32 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Passed QA: [Bug 6813] Acquistions - duplicate search across orders, suggestions and catalog http://t.co/Zje2v1hW #kohails"
14:33 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6813 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Passed QA , Acquistions - duplicate search across orders, suggestions and catalog
14:33 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Passed QA: [Bug 8495] Javascript error when creating a new order http://t.co/ncvecLsT #kohails"
14:33 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8495 blocker, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, Javascript error when creating a new order
14:33 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Passed QA: [Bug 8575] Number of items expected is wrong http://t.co/YiyuTN0U #kohails"
14:33 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8575 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, Number of items expected is wrong
14:42 mtompset        I'm
14:42 mtompset        Going to call it a night
14:49 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @paul_poulain: "Yesterday morning 19 patches to push. Yesterday evening 19. Today 2PM, still 19. Except I pushed 50+ patches in the meantime !!! #kohails"
14:53 magnuse         ooh, 66 bugs need signoff!
14:57 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Failed QA: [Bug 8296] Add descriptive (text) published date field for serials http://t.co/8bXnLZ2z #kohails"
14:57 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8296 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Add descriptive (text) published date field for serials
14:57 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Failed QA: [Bug 5349] Moving an order http://t.co/QnME2V8x #kohails"
14:57 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Moving an order
14:57 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Failed QA: [Bug 8666] Prevent to create baskets for inactive suppliers http://t.co/miQ9V0qZ #kohails"
14:57 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8666 minor, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, Prevent to create baskets for inactive suppliers
15:05 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Passed QA: [Bug 6030] Allow for html in letters in overdue notices http://t.co/4jFNDpS5 #kohails"
15:05 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6030 enhancement, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Passed QA , Allow for html in letters in overdue notices
15:09 jcamins_away    ISPs--
15:09 * magnuse       wanders off
15:10 reiveune1       bye
15:11 mtj             is it just me, or is huginn chattier than usual, re: bugz activity?
15:12 oleonard        huginn chimes in whenever a bug number is mentioned, and tweetbot` is mentioning a lot of them
15:12 huginn          oleonard: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
15:14 gaetan_B        bye !
15:14 Joubu           have a good week-end all of you
15:14 Joubu           ++
15:14 wajasu          i'm in the process of testing bug 8702.  before i apply the patch i was doing some searches for admin->systempreferences  search. Search "Linker" fine. but when i do " Linker" (leading space) or multiple spaces between words, i think some javascript or something goes off churning.
15:14 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8702 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , System preferences search does not allow accented letters
15:14 tcohen          will Koha::Contrib::Tamil be packaged some time?
15:15 tcohen          (.deb I mean)
15:16 wajasu          needed for the incremental zebra daemon?
15:22 mtj             oleonard, ah click :)
15:24 wajasu          i'm glad to see 8738 passed QA :)
15:24 jcamins         bug 8738
15:24 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8738 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , DateTime object being compared to a date string in circulation
15:24 jcamins         Ah.
15:24 jcamins         Bit of an issue, that one.
15:24 wajasu          i mean bug 8378
15:24 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
15:25 jcamins         Also an issue.
15:26 oleonard        jcamins: Are you able to reproduce Bug 8738?
15:27 jcamins         oleonard: oh, no, there's another one with incorrectly comparing DateTimes.
15:27 jcamins         I did not replicate that one.
15:29 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Failed QA: [Bug 6874] File upload in MARC http://t.co/BBGFTkkH #kohails"
15:29 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Patch doesn't apply , File upload in MARC
15:29 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Failed QA: [Bug 8705] Software error on help of main page http://t.co/oJyN7oP6 #kohails"
15:29 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8705 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , Software error on help of main page
15:29 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Failed QA: [Bug 4491] Cleaning some weird code in *search.pl http://t.co/YtXOZ46z #kohails"
15:29 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4491 trivial, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Cleaning some weird code in *search.pl
15:32 oleonard        @KohaGBSD says 4491 is Failed QA, but it's Passed QA.
15:32 huginn          oleonard: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
15:32 oleonard        huginn: You know we're not *always* talking to you.
15:32 huginn          oleonard: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
15:32 oleonard        huginn needs some more excuses.
15:32 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #831: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/831/
15:32 huginn          oleonard: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
15:32 jenkins_koha    * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8071: link between bib and authorities with the authid
15:32 jenkins_koha    * colin.campbell: Bug 8656 Calendar needs to load both exception and nonexception dates
15:32 jenkins_koha    * colin.campbell: Bug 8418: load repeating holidays hash correctly
15:32 jcamins         oleonard: the Twitter feed has been having issues.
15:32 jenkins_koha    * jcamins: Bug 8447: Make sure we have enough subfields for broader_headings
15:32 jenkins_koha    * colin.campbell: Bug 6976 Close loophole allowing borrowers extra holds via opac
15:32 jenkins_koha    * jonathan.druart: Bug 8002: FIX Change datatype from varchar 1 to 10 for borrower_attribute_types.category_code
15:32 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8071 blocker, P1 - high, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , link beween bib and authorities with the authid
15:32 jenkins_koha    * jonathan.druart: Bug 8002: FIX Change datatype from varchar 1 to 10 for borrower_attribute_types.category_code
15:32 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8656 major, P1 - high, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Koha::Calendar not loading both sets of special dates
15:32 jenkins_koha    * Paul Poulain: Bug 8002 follow-up for the follow-up, DBRev number
15:32 jenkins_koha    * jcamins: Bug 8743: ZOOM error when merging authority change to biblios
15:32 jenkins_koha    * Paul Poulain: Bug 8743 follow-up, throw a more explanatory error message
15:32 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8418 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Koha::Calendar is_holiday ignores all user data
15:32 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8447 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , can't save new records / indicator error
15:32 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6976 major, P1 - high, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , User hold limit can be avoided by users in OPAC
15:32 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8002 critical, P2, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Can't add patron attribute type in newer installation
15:32 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8743 critical, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , ZOOM error when merging authority change to biblios
15:37 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Passed QA: [Bug 8624] famfamfam should be outside theme directory http://t.co/Nw9ZgA80 #kohails"
15:37 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8624 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , famfamfam should be outside theme directory
15:41 jenkins_koha    Starting build #832 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 12 days ago)
15:43 pastebot        "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "thinking about how to resolve a merge conflict for bug 8702" (37 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/173
15:43 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8702 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , System preferences search does not allow accented letters
15:45 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8428 - can't save contracts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2b5963e2fd5654b05ed42711c0fbf07d910a882> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7417' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=53e08d9811fa3802f4a759501fba684c96cf2561> / Bug 7417 follow-up: fix a perlcritic violation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=340ba63758a2f2
15:46 mtj             oleonard, yeah magnus spotted the incorrect gsbd tweet prefixes
15:47 mtj             we all decided it was a low-priority issue to fix today, its prolly some regex/pattern-matching bug on twitterfeed.com
15:48 mtj             i'm off peeps, someone ban twitbot if he goes crazy, please :)
15:49 wajasu          excellent work today!  I've got some closure on some signoffs :)
16:01 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Failed QA: [Bug 7560] SIP Self Checkout Ignoring Fines Thresholds for Not Being able to Check Out Books http://t.co/LHbKkeJQ #kohails"
16:01 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7560 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Passed QA , SIP Self Checkout Ignoring Fines Thresholds for Not Being able to Check Out Books
16:01 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Needs SO: [Bug 7455] Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field http://t.co/6hZLlkxo #kohails"
16:01 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7455 normal, P4, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field
16:01 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Needs SO: [Bug 8275] xml parsing error when the webservice GetPatronInfo/show_loans is called http://t.co/qXWyQUbl #kohails"
16:01 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8275 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , xml parsing error when the webservice GetPatronInfo/show_loans is called
16:01 jcamins         Wow. It sure is confused.
16:03 wajasu          about?  the bot?
16:03 jcamins         The status of bugs.
16:04 wajasu          being passed QA. what should they be?
16:04 jcamins         They did pass QA.
16:05 jcamins         The Twitter thing is convinced that they need signoff.
16:08 wajasu          maybe its matching to text in the page matching "Needs Signoff"  (The footer always has that).  That couldn't be it.
16:08 * jcamins       will let magnuse troubleshoot it some other time.
16:11 wajasu          i'm confused about my applying 8702.  it has a conflict merging stopwords-admin-search.inc and i don't even see that file mentioned in the original patch. is git trying to be smart for some file move/rename?
16:11 jcamins         wajasu: that *is* weird.
16:12 jcamins         I'd ask the original author to rebase and resubmit.
16:12 wajasu          ok.
16:17 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Signed off: [Bug 8215] Add Course Reserves http://t.co/Mklfezbc #kohails"
16:17 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add Course Reserves
16:17 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Signed off: [Bug 7067] allow patron self registration via the opac http://t.co/OBmCMAh4 #kohails"
16:17 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , allow patron self registration via the opac
16:17 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Passed QA: [Bug 8275] xml parsing error when the webservice GetPatronInfo/show_loans is called http://t.co/qXWyQUbl #kohails"
16:17 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8275 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , xml parsing error when the webservice GetPatronInfo/show_loans is called
16:20 * paul_p        now leave (my 2nd son is 12 today, so family time ;-) )
16:21 * paul_p        spent a lot of time on bug 8378 and still not clear if it's OK ... must probably be too tired for having a clear brain ;-)
16:21 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
16:28 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8520' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=84825be42adf4a50b77360cf016cd5bfee15c072> / Bug 8520 - Authorities summary incorrect on posible duplicate notice <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=81e1cd545c117c602a08f4ede91f7536223b66b3>
16:28 mbalmer         evening
16:29 oleonard        Hi mbalmer, would you care to globally squash a bug today?
16:30 mbalmer         no, sorry, I am exhaustet.  just returned from the swiss librarians congress in constance where we did run a booth and I gave a presentation on Koha this morning (which went very well).
16:31 mbalmer         swiss libraries now know about Koha and what options they have to find appropriate support, how development works etc etc
16:32 jcamins         mbalmer: don't worry, you have 17.5 hours before you miss out on GBSD. :)
16:33 mbalmer         is that fixing a bug in any software or does only Koha count?
16:33 jcamins         Only Koha counts.
16:33 mbalmer         then I will most probably fail… ;)
16:35 mbalmer         In a way I fixed the bug that the swiss libraries did not know enough of Koha.. ;P
16:41 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Does not apply: [Bug 8702] System preferences search does not allow accented letters http://t.co/mOts0VMP #kohails"
16:41 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8702 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Patch doesn't apply , System preferences search does not allow accented letters
16:41 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Needs SO: [Bug 8702] System preferences search does not allow accented letters http://t.co/b1IhtmZP #kohails"
16:41 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Pushed: [Bug 5234] Remove unused CSS files http://t.co/OX47bGdq #kohails"
16:41 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5234 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Remove unused CSS files
16:43 wajasu          paul_p: don't hesitate asking me about it 8378. it took be some time to figure it out.
16:46 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #832: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/832/
16:46 jenkins_koha    * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8420: tool statisticfines.pl and hourly loan
16:46 jenkins_koha    * kyle: Bug 4173 - Statuses not appearing in the OPAC
16:46 jenkins_koha    * jonathan.druart: Bug 4173: Followup: put the lib into a variable
16:46 jenkins_koha    * kyle: Bug 4173: Followup: Document KohaAuthorisedValues plugin
16:46 jenkins_koha    * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8629: update of statistics fields on fund selection in order creation/edition
16:46 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8420 major, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , tool statisticfines.pl(bz 6858) and hourly loan(bz5549)
16:46 jenkins_koha    * m.de.rooy: 7675 New script for changing selinux file labels on perl scripts
16:46 jenkins_koha    * colin.campbell: Bug 8653 remove erroneous whitespace blocking indexing
16:46 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4173 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Statuses not appearing in the OPAC
16:46 jenkins_koha    * jcamins: Bug 7417 follow-up: fix a perlcritic violation
16:46 jenkins_koha    * oleonard: Bug 8428 - can't save contracts
16:46 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8629 normal, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , update of statistics fields on fund selection in order creation/edition
16:46 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8653 normal, P4, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , With DOM indexing turned on subject authority links are not indexed
16:46 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches
16:46 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8428 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , can't save contracts
16:46 jenkins_koha    Starting build #833 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 12 days ago)
17:04 oleonard        Hi LBA
17:13 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Pushed: [Bug 7024] Can't delete other library's messages to the patron with AllowAllMessageDeletion on http://t.co/5nkRAOwL #kohails"
17:14 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7024 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Can't delete other library's messages to the patron with AllowAllMessageDeletion on
17:14 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Pushed: [Bug 6573] Library name entry field enforces unnecessary maxlength http://t.co/qEGGBWFD #kohails"
17:14 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6573 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Library name entry field enforces unnecessary maxlength
17:14 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Pushed: [Bug 6766] Template variable scope errors in holds template http://t.co/Wj2p6SoW #kohails"
17:14 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6766 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Template variable scope errors in holds template
17:21 mtompset        Sorry for the bug report and run, but it's 1:19am, and I'm still suffering a sore throat and ear ache.
17:21 mtompset        bug 8772
17:21 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8772 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Uninitialized variable triggers error log entry in smart_rules.pl
17:22 mtompset        test plan, and suggested fix are there.
17:22 * mtompset      waves bye.
17:41 magnuse         woohoo for Bug 7067 being signed off!
17:41 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , allow patron self registration via the opac
17:41 magnuse         khall++ oleonard++
17:43 oleonard        Additional testers welcome
17:46 oleonard        ...and follow-up coming to add eye candy.
17:47 tcohen          http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/141087
17:48 tcohen          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Loved the superlibrarian one
17:50 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #833: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/833/
17:50 jenkins_koha    tomascohen: Bug 8520 - Authorities summary incorrect on posible duplicate notice
17:50 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8520 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authorities display incorrectly in staff results
17:51 jenkins_koha    Starting build #834 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 12 days ago)
17:53 magnuse         ok, i'm turning off the gbsd tweets
17:55 * magnuse       wanders off to make pizza!
18:02 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @KohaGBSD: "Sorry for the confused #kohails GBSD tweets, there's something wrong with the RSS I'm feeding to Twitter..."
18:09 tcohen          are .deb scripts able to handle per-instance runtime configurations?
18:09 jcamins         tcohen: what do you mean?
18:10 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @Tredok: "Bon, avec l'entretien d'aujourd'hui, je n'ai pas pu participer au 2012-09-14 Global bug squashing day http://t.co/6gEQRiIj #kohails T_T"
18:10 tcohen          i wrote some koha-{start|stop|restart}-indexer scripts for .deb installs, and tweaked koha-common.init to start them per-instance
18:10 tcohen          just as koha-start-zebra and so on
18:11 tcohen          and would like to know, if there's a way I can set each instance to have different frecaquencies
18:11 tcohen          (for example)
18:11 tcohen          otherwise, I'd just hardoce some value there
18:11 jcamins         You could add additional lines to the crontab.
18:11 jcamins         I don't think I understand what you want, though.
18:12 tcohen          in our deployment, cronjobs don't scale
18:12 jcamins         Right.
18:12 tcohen          and sub-minute indexing is not avoidable
18:12 * jcamins       has this problem too. That's what fredericd's indexer daemon is for.
18:12 tcohen          i've just created the needed scripts to run that daemon
18:13 tcohen          in a .deb setup
18:13 tcohen          (out-of-the-box)
18:13 jcamins         Right.
18:13 jcamins         Those are not part of koha-common by default.
18:14 tcohen          i've just created them
18:14 jcamins         Right.
18:14 jcamins         So why can't you just add per-instance configuration?
18:14 jcamins         That's what I'm confused about. If it's a new script, of course it's not managed by the Debian scripts by default.
18:15 tcohen          following the current approach to 'daemonize things' in a .deb setup
18:15 tcohen          I've just added
18:15 tcohen          koha-start-indexer $(koha-list --enabled) to the do_start procedure in koha-common.init
18:16 jcamins         Ah, and you want to know if koha-list --enabled will give you anything other than the name?
18:16 jcamins         No.
18:16 tcohen          the koha-start-indexer script has a hardcoded value for --timeout
18:16 jcamins         You'd need to store configuration information in koha-conf.xml, and load that.
18:16 jcamins         (or something similar)
18:18 tcohen          jcamins, that means there's no db with prefs for each instance
18:19 jcamins         tcohen: or you can save it in the database and load it with the script.
18:20 tcohen          i guess i'll send the patch i have so it is discussed
18:20 tcohen          maybe the whole approach is not the right one
18:20 tcohen          if it fits, then i'll provide follow-ups for that
18:20 tcohen          thanks!
18:41 tcohen          jcamins: this is what i was talking about Bug 8773
18:41 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup
18:42 jcamins         tcohen: you decided not to make the interval configurable for the initial patch? (makes sense to me)
18:43 tcohen          yes jcamins, i think it needs to be discussed by interested devs before spending mor etime on it
18:43 jcamins         tcohen: makes sense to me.
18:43 jcamins         I will try your script, and if it works for me, I will use it in place of the one I have, which I am not too thrilled with.
18:45 tcohen          we use those from Bug 8519 here, but we'd like to move to .deb setup
18:45 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8519 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Make koha-index-daemon run on startup
18:45 tcohen          and this will make it easier to maintain
18:46 tcohen          jcamins, let me know it htere's anything i can improve
18:55 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #834: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/834/
19:00 wajasu          tcohen: i remember testing your indexer script. i know you can add multiple instance config by using id and refs (see listen, server and serverinfo for examples). i am currently trying to see if i can replace XML::Simple and if i factor out the routine, i might make it usable for you.  lets see if i can pull something off.
19:00 wajasu          in koha-conf.xml
19:01 tcohen          wajasu, sounds good
19:10 khall           bug 8559 needs a sign-off. I give you not one, but two, count'em *two* options on how to solve this bug.
19:10 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8559 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , conflicting item statuses
19:12 oleonard        khall: Sorry, but I think neither is correct.
19:12 oleonard        The solution should be to make the item no longer waiting, but still on hold.
19:12 oleonard        Is that not possible?
19:18 khall           that is quite compliated
19:18 khall           complicated that is
19:18 khall           at this point, we can no longer know if the reserve was item or bib level
19:19 khall           we could assume it is bib level and push it back on the queue as priority 1.
19:19 khall           or assume it's item level. That would be safer
19:19 khall           but either way, there is no way to guarantee the style of hold is preserved.
19:20 oleonard        Safer but not as quick for the patron if it was originally biblio-level and there are multiple copies
19:20 khall           plus, there is a likelihood that the person the hold has been waiting for has been notified by email or sms.
19:27 cait            hi #koha
19:27 tcohen          any expert on .deb package building?
19:28 jcamins         tcohen: eythian would be the person to talk to, but maybe I can help.
19:28 tcohen          i'm trying to build debs for testing my patch
19:29 tcohen          i'm on ubuntu precise and get 'unmet dependencies' on building the package
19:29 tcohen          s
19:29 jcamins         Which dependencies?
19:30 tcohen          tons of perl libs
19:30 tcohen          i have them all installed and available in my current sources.list
19:30 tcohen          but pbuilder seems to fail
19:31 tcohen          I followed http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way
19:31 rangi           pbuilder doesnt use your sources.list it uses its own, its like a chroot its it own thing
19:31 tcohen          hi rangi
19:31 rangi           easiest way to sort it out
19:31 cait            morning rangi
19:32 rangi           sudo pbuilder --login --save-after-login
19:33 rangi           now you will be in the pbuilder env
19:33 rangi           you can edit your sources.list there
19:33 tcohen          the adjust the sources.list?
19:33 rangi           yep
19:33 rangi           you can even apt-get install them
19:33 rangi           then ctrl-d when your done, and try again
19:34 tcohen          thanks rangi
19:34 rangi           if you dont install them, it will fetch and install them on every package build
19:34 rangi           just depends what you want
19:34 tcohen          i'm trying to test Bug 8773
19:34 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup
19:34 rangi           if you dont use --save-after-login
19:34 rangi           any changes you make, dont stick
19:35 rangi           pbuilder is pretty cool
19:36 rangi           ah yeah that would be great to get going tcohen
19:36 tcohen          yeah, its my first experience with pbuilder
19:37 tcohen          it reminds me my gentoo ages
19:37 tcohen          LOL
19:37 rangi           yep, its a bit like that, it is a great way to build packages tho, because with the distribution switch
19:37 rangi           you can build them for all sorts
19:39 tcohen          does the pbuilder env need tweaking when building for other distribution?
19:39 tcohen          (squeeze vs. precise)
19:39 jcamins         tcohen: it shouldn't need much.
19:40 jcamins         I think you just choose the distro you want.
19:40 jcamins         Wait, didn't I document that in the man page for release-tool.pl?
19:41 jcamins         Ah, no.
19:44 tcohen          do I need to set a DB for the .debs to build??
19:44 rangi           no
19:44 rangi           only if someone is bad
19:45 rangi           and puts a db dependent test in t/
19:45 tcohen          and set it to make test...
19:45 rangi           but those get fixed fast and there isnt one
19:45 tcohen          hahaha
19:45 rangi           at the moment
19:45 rangi           jenkins will catch them
19:45 * jcamins       is pretty sure he didn't do that, and no one else has been adding tests of late, I don't think.
19:45 tcohen          #   Failed test 'use C4::HoldsQueue;'
19:46 rangi           there ya go
19:46 rangi           that needs to be fixed
19:46 rambutan        wizzyrea: you're aware of the terrorist at the Federal Building in KC?
19:46 jcamins         Okay, someone else added a test.
19:47 rambutan        http://www.kctv5.com/category/215375/kctv5-livestream-mva2
19:47 tcohen          *NOW* that I'm retrying to buildg the deb, I understood what rangi was telling me about 'leave some packages installed in the pbuilder env'
19:48 jcamins         tcohen: hehe. If you install the packages, though, you have to update pbuilder regularly.
19:51 tcohen          levaing right now
19:51 tcohen          bye #koha, thanks rangi, jcamins
20:07 libsysguy       @wunder 77365
20:07 huginn          libsysguy: The current temperature in Hunters Ridge, Kingwood, Texas is 28.2°C (3:04 PM CDT on September 14, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
20:12 oleonard        Hm, I hope we're gauging the success of GBSD by something other than the count of Needs Signoff :(
20:13 cait            :(
20:13 cait            I think lots of things done today
20:13 cait            even if the number is not down
20:13 cait            stupid internet on the train :(
20:15 libsysguy       does anybody know if there is any work happening for DBIx:Class?
20:15 libsysguy       like a stronger implementation
20:16 libsysguy       :)
20:19 jcamins         libsysguy: not to my knowledge.
20:19 jcamins         Tag, you're it.
20:20 wajasu          are we targetting DBIx:Class   or Moo<whatever>?
20:20 cait            I think kyle was writing about it today
20:20 libsysguy       Moose
20:20 cait            that he wants to use dbx::class
20:21 libsysguy       heh khall and I talked about it this morning during our dev meeting
20:21 cait            ah
20:21 jcamins         Not Moose.
20:21 cait            not moose
20:21 jcamins         No Moose.
20:21 libsysguy       and I was like…"Damn it why are we not using DBIx::Class"
20:21 jcamins         My sister was bitten by a Moose.
20:21 libsysguy       I thought we had to use Moose for Solr?
20:21 cait            because it's a bigger decision... and we have problems making those
20:21 libsysguy       cait…well played
20:22 * libsysguy     has all these grand ideas and only 2 hands to write them all :p
20:22 wajasu          because i saw paul mentioned in kyle's course_reserves effort that he would have liked it to be OO.
20:22 cait            but OO doesn't have to be Moose
20:22 libsysguy       yeah OOP is the way to go
20:22 cait            I like the stuff jared uses
20:22 cait            Class::Accessor
20:22 wahanui         it has been said that Class::Accessor is a very useful screwdriver
20:22 * jcamins       likes Class::Accessor.
20:23 libsysguy       class accessor is a nice tool :)
20:23 wajasu          usually an OO solution has a common root "Object" so wouldn't we need to pick one?
20:23 libsysguy       hmm
20:24 libsysguy       wajasu have you done JAVA development
20:24 cait            wajasu: not sure I understand that
20:24 wajasu          yup :)
20:24 libsysguy       cait, basically everything stems from a central object.  In java its Object
20:24 cait            hm
20:25 cait            I have done object oriented java programming
20:25 libsysguy       so its like the root of a tree
20:25 cait            and right now I wonder how much of it I forgot or never learned :)
20:25 libsysguy       haha java OOP is all about abstraction
20:25 libsysguy       not letting you mess with more than you should
20:25 cait            which is probably better with me as the programmer
20:26 cait            I found java quite annoying at times
20:26 cait            especially tomcat
20:26 wajasu          if we mix development with multiple root objects it might require more dev effort with compenting factions.
20:26 cait            ok, you lost me there
20:26 libsysguy       but following object oriented paradigm you can still do OO development with just following those principals
20:26 cait            @wunder berlin
20:26 huginn          cait: Error: No such location could be found.
20:26 cait            @wunder Berlin, Germany
20:26 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 15.9°C (10:13 PM CEST on September 14, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
20:26 libsysguy       WW3 happened
20:26 libsysguy       berlin is gone
20:27 libsysguy       :'(
20:27 cait            no it's right here
20:27 libsysguy       hehe
20:27 wajasu          if the moose perl mechanisms don't play nice with others, wil we pay.
20:27 cait            moose is slow
20:27 jcamins         Moose is not a viable option.
20:27 libsysguy       because it requires every module in perl :p
20:27 libsysguy       its like Date::Manip
20:27 jcamins         Yup.
20:27 wajasu          ok. fine.   we'll just use conventions.
20:28 libsysguy       conventions are good
20:28 libsysguy       perl is nice in that we can mix and match
20:28 libsysguy       but an OO design is prefered
20:28 libsysguy       if you don't believe me go look at old koha code thats still cobbled together
20:29 libsysguy       its bad
20:29 jcamins         wajasu: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7417#c23
20:29 huginn          04Bug 7417: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches
20:29 jcamins         3.34 seconds for a script to print "Hi".
20:30 libsysguy       sounds like it belongs in koha :p
20:30 cait            libsysguy: old code is old
20:31 libsysguy       code euthanasia...
20:31 cait            don't use that word
20:33 * jcamins       prefers code code ecinacea.
20:33 wajasu          i'm fooling around with seeing if I can replace XML::Simple.  its slow.
20:34 jcamins         s/code code/code/
20:34 jcamins         It reduces the pain somewhat.
20:34 cait            jcamins: now I have to look that up
20:34 jcamins         cait: it's a homeopathic herb that is supposed to be an anaesthetic.
20:34 jcamins         wajasu: you can. There was a patch that did that.
20:34 jcamins         Maybe bug 5600?
20:34 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, Bulk MARC biblio export script
20:34 jcamins         Nope.
20:34 jcamins         Oh well.
20:35 jcamins         Bug 7170
20:35 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7170 normal, P3, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED , Remove use of XML::Simple
20:36 jcamins         But what I was actually thinking of was bug 6193.
20:36 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6193 enhancement, P3, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Use memcached cache koha-conf.xml configuration variables
20:36 wajasu          they benchmarked it.  took it off the shelf because of memcache effot. but ian reopened it.
20:39 wajasu          i ran the benchmark.  .77 biblios/sec  ( i'll take a stab at it). if not faster, then fine.
20:41 wajasu          i really figured out how to use Carton.  Once I got my own local::lib cpanminus dependency, with inc:Module::Install  Module::CPANfile (a github version) and Carton, I can grab anyhting with a simple cpanfile. i like it!
20:42 wajasu          i got those deps on archlinux, and  did   carton install Task::Plack,   etc and got all that I needed no problem.
20:44 wajasu          It would replace much of the Makefile.PL and let is build a local::lib  which we could duplicate more easily and maybe be indepenent of the distribution.
20:44 jcamins         wajasu: I think 6193 had an experimental patch that changed out XML::Simple.
20:46 wajasu          bug 7170 is what I was looking at
20:46 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7170 normal, P3, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED , Remove use of XML::Simple
20:46 jcamins         Right, but I'm telling you I think I saw a patch that replaced XML::Simple at some point.
20:47 wajasu          it is in 7170.  but after the benchmark, it wasn;t fast enough (see obsolete).  but maybe you heard of another one?
20:48 cait            hm I think I only heard ian(?) talking about it
20:49 wajasu          he did a patch using YAML.  I'm just going to spend a few minutes on it, and if the benchmark is significantly faster, attach it for review.
20:49 jcamins         cait: I thought someone tried LibXML.
20:49 cait            no iea
20:50 cait            someone should tell me to go to sleep because I have to give a koha presentation tomorrow
20:50 jcamins         Go to sleep.
20:51 wajasu          I'm trying XML::Easy  I ran the benchmark, adding XML::Easy to open the file, and parse it, and it didn't change the benchmark.  so I am just writing a routine to convert the XMLEasy structure to the hash of hashes config structre and will rerun without XML::Simple.
20:52 oleonard        Is bug 8770 related to or a duplicate of Bug 8739?
20:52 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8770 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , amount does not equal amountoutstanding on a fine with no payments or credits
20:52 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8739 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Partial Fine Payments Saving Amount Paid Incorrectly
20:52 oleonard        Oh no I guess 8770 says "no payments or credits"
20:52 oleonard        19.96 + 6.99
20:52 wahanui         26.95
20:53 oleonard        4.99+22.99
20:53 wahanui         27.98
20:53 wajasu          1+1
20:53 jcamins         wajasu: you stumped wahanui!
20:53 oleonard        It's all in how you tell it wajasu
20:53 jcamins         wajasu: why are you trying to improve the speed of proessing koha-conf.xml?
20:54 jcamins         I feel like caching really has pretty much made this a solved problem. Using something else would be better, but not having dependency cycles would be much more better.
20:55 oleonard        More betterer
20:56 wajasu          more best
20:56 cait            [off] 5.0 - seriously?
20:57 jcamins         [off] Seriously? That was fast.
20:58 jcamins         [off] Where do you see that?
20:58 oleonard        [off] Why are we whispering?
20:58 cait            [off] http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=17213
20:58 jcamins         [off] We don't like giving those who must not be named extra publicity.
20:58 wajasu          its marketing
20:58 oleonard        Liblime: Your version numbering is bad and you should feel bad.
20:59 gmcharlt        North to Koha 2013.1?
20:59 jcamins         Jeepers.
20:59 jcamins         That's "mobile"?
20:59 oleonard        "mOPAC." Heh. The OPAC you feel sad using.
20:59 cait            lol
20:59 jcamins         (lol
21:00 jcamins         Oh, there's the mobile.
21:00 jcamins         They don't use media queries.
21:00 cait            link?
21:00 wahanui         link is right, but the website is gone, apparently
21:01 jcamins         lol
21:01 jcamins         [off] hartford.waldo.kohalibrary.com
21:02 wajasu          i google koha GSD  the other day meaning to type Koha GBSD, and got  http://gsd.sedck12.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?expanded_options=1
21:09 oleonard        Bye #koha
22:01 jcamins_away    fredericd++