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23:45 melia yay! :)
23:45 rangi check out the new developers
23:45 rangi melia: http://dashboard.koha-community.org/
23:35 rangi hmm
23:29 rangi holds queue is to do with that table
23:28 jcamins It's pre-DBD::Mock, and I think it makes an assumption that you're only running the test once in a day.
23:28 jcamins I bet the daily quote is due to the way the test works.
23:28 jcamins Yeah, just as soon as my patch fixing them is pushed. :)
23:28 rangi the 3 perl critics will go away easily
23:28 jcamins Ooh, I bet I know what it is.
23:27 rangi looks like a legit fail
23:27 rangi thats the daily quote one
23:27 rangi # Failed test 'Got a quote based on today's date.'
23:27 rangi not ok 4 - Got a quote based on today's date.
23:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #169 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:26 jcamins Never mind.
23:25 jcamins Oh, I'm looking at the wrong build.
23:25 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/
23:25 rangi there isnt one anymore
23:25 jcamins rangi: any idea what the syspref failures are from on jenkins?
23:24 jcamins 3.6.x passes all unit tests!
23:24 jcamins Woohoo!
23:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #829: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/829/
23:24 rangi it gets confused
23:24 rangi to pushed to stable
23:24 rangi seems when i change from pushed to master
23:24 jcamins Yeah, sounds broken.
23:24 jcamins Oh.
23:23 rangi not needs sign off
23:23 rangi are pushed to stable
23:23 wahanui 17393
23:23 rangi 8677 and 8716
23:23 jcamins rangi: What's wrong with it?
23:22 rangi https://twitter.com/KohaGBSD
23:22 rangi hmm i think magnuse gbsd script is bustinated
23:16 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8524 follow-up: fix Javascript syntax error
23:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8524 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Add barcode plugin that does not autofill
23:16 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8524: Followup FIX an undeclared variable $query
23:16 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8524 follow-up: fix broken test
23:16 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8524: Add a non-automatic barcode plugin
23:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #168: SUCCESS in 2 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/168/
22:59 rangi *sigh*
22:45 * jcamins is going to have to go with "totally awesome!"
22:43 rangi how cool is that!
22:43 rangi http://www.hoektronics.com/2012/09/13/introducing-botqueue-open-distributed-manufacturing/
22:20 cait rangi++
22:19 rangi right back to pushing bugs then signing off
22:04 rangi and to make it easy to use, is very little work
22:04 rangi awesome our opac is only hard to use, but not unusable
21:19 rangi then ill take a look
21:19 rangi gotta go talk to about accessibility
21:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #829 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 11 days ago)
21:15 jcamins_away I fixed that now.
21:15 jcamins_away That's why I sent you a message asking about TEST_QA, which was not set in my environment.
21:15 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/
21:15 jcamins_away rangi: there's a patch you can sign off on. 7417
21:15 rangi hmm perlcritic errors tho?
21:15 jcamins_away Nearly 100% statement coverage in all the routines I wanted to test, and I wanted to test the really big ones.
21:14 jcamins_away rangi: those tests for C4::Search were *mammoth*.
21:14 rangi write tests, move up the leaderboard
21:13 rangi those tests for C4::Search jumped people up a lot
21:13 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/cigame/?
21:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #168 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:59 * wajasu changes his system clock to NZ timezone.
20:57 rangi its my gbsd now, friday here already, and tomorrow is saturday, so you are on your own then :)
20:56 * wajasu votes for rangi as the officlal dj for GBSD
20:54 rangi each one has a few nz songs thrown in, to tie back to Koha
20:53 rangi yep, they are all high energy ones
20:53 datadoctor Those are great! I love to listen to Santogold while I work. Keeps the energy up.
20:51 datadoctor I'm putting those to work on my next extermination effort. Thanks rangi!
20:51 rangi hehe
20:51 jcamins_away Great title for that first one.
20:51 jcamins_away lol
20:51 rangi there ya go :)
20:51 rangi http://grooveshark.com/#!/playlist/Koha+Hacking/8190140
20:51 rangi and for dev
20:50 rangi http://grooveshark.com/#!/playlist/Squish+Dem+Bugs/56508714
20:50 rangi and also
20:50 rangi http://grooveshark.com/#!/playlist/I+See+Bugs+And+All+I+Wanna+Do+Is+Bang+Bang+Bang+And+Take+Their+Money/57969319
20:49 datadoctor :D
20:49 rangi want one for bug squashing?
20:49 rangi oh i have a few playlists
20:49 datadoctor I'm audio-visualizing a soundtrack for Koha. I know there is already one for the Koha development video.
20:47 rangi 4 of the 8 person qa team :)
20:47 rangi and sam from nz, who is a metal listening security guy
20:47 rangi silvia from hungary
20:47 rangi julius, from the philipines who is blind and is our accessibility expert
20:46 rangi we have charlie from ghana, our dubmeister
20:46 rangi in the block of 4 desks
20:46 wajasu whats he singin? "what do you wantt me to sign... one after one we will sign."
20:46 rangi its a pretty neat corner
20:44 datadoctor I'm enjoying the dub.
20:44 rangi heh
20:44 * wajasu freestyles pre signoff
20:44 rangi he just freestyles it over the beat its pretty cool
20:44 * jcamins_away will respond to David's e-mail later.
20:43 jcamins_away You'll have headings. :)
20:43 jcamins_away Repeat.
20:43 jcamins_away Apply patch.
20:43 jcamins_away You'll notice the suggestions are HASH(0x12345).
20:43 jcamins_away Do a search with the DidYouMeanFromAuthorities on.
20:43 jcamins_away wajasu: that'd be great. It's very fast.
20:43 rangi he is part of the catalyst QA team
20:42 rangi http://soundcloud.com/madsickill/give-praise-dub-terminator-ras <-- this is ras stone (aka charlie) who works 3 metres away from
20:42 gmcharlt :)
20:42 gmcharlt repeat after me -- select * from asset.copy does nothing in Koha!
20:42 drojf how could anything MARC21-related be complicated?
20:42 wajasu jcamins: do you need me to test/signoff on 8209 followup before paul will even work it?
20:42 * jcamins_away is best at making people's heads explode with complicated MARC21 concepts.
20:41 rangi im actually best at finding random music
20:41 wizzyrea it's waht they're best at
20:41 datadoctor Thanks rangi, wajasu and jcamins_away! You are really helping me think this through.
20:40 rangi finished :)
20:40 rangi you could even make the report sort it for you
20:40 jcamins_away rangi: ooh, and generate it on the fly? Nice!
20:40 rangi just write a report, then you can get it as json
20:39 drojf good evening #koha
20:39 rangi in 3.10 up
20:39 rangi you could use the reports restful service to do that
20:39 datadoctor OK, now we are getting somewhere!
20:38 jcamins_away datadoctor: you would just store it as JSON, and handle the button populating using jQuery.
20:38 datadoctor and repeat...
20:38 datadoctor jquery mobile buttons are code-heavy, not so great to manage, that's why i want to use one button, and drop in the values.
20:36 jcamins_away (sortable is very, very easy)
20:36 jcamins_away (well, more maintainable for code that isn't in a state to get added to Koha)
20:36 jcamins_away Not as pretty as sortable, but much more maintainable.
20:36 datadoctor I like that idea.
20:36 jcamins_away wajasu: smart.
20:35 wajasu if the list is small and specialized, just embed it in you javascript/jquery code. as a syspref maybe
20:35 datadoctor Puts on thinking cap.
20:34 jcamins_away datadoctor: I am fond of jQuery sortable, but that's not something you'd want to do for hacked-together code... too much work that you'll lose if you want to upgrade. Better to design it in a way that can be contributed right off.
20:33 datadoctor That makes sense jcamins_away. I need a better way to order the list.
20:32 rangi napier/hastings area of the north island of nz
20:32 wajasu maybe he should just add the list as javascript json, etc.
20:32 rangi for reference for anyone like eythian who was wondering where CHB is, it's Central Hawkes Bay
20:32 jcamins_away If you want to add something at the top, you have to change all the IDs.
20:31 jcamins_away Just as an aside, I think that using authorized values sorted by ID may prove too inflexible for you.
20:31 datadoctor Thanks. :D
20:31 datadoctor I will take a look.
20:30 datadoctor I know that is used on many pages with tables. Do you think I can pull it off of one of those?
20:30 * wajasu we have quarum
20:30 jcamins_away Agreed.
20:30 datadoctor I like that idea.
20:29 rangi right, so wajasu's suggestion of reorder using jquery sounds like the win
20:29 datadoctor I pull the array of authorized values, then print the Description with its destination link, and a matching icon.
20:28 datadoctor I display it as a mobile jquery button menu on the mobile phone.
20:28 rangi where do you want them to show ordered by id?
20:28 jcamins_away I am thinking about a page on the staff client, where you choose a category, and get out a table.
20:28 datadoctor Every library will want to customize their mobile interface with different menu items
20:27 datadoctor Perhaps there is a better way to do this.
20:27 jcamins_away So you must not be talking about what I understand by "list of authorized values."
20:27 jcamins_away I enter my Authorized Values, and never touch them again.
20:27 jcamins_away And I can't think of any reason why you would be.
20:27 jcamins_away However, I don't spend much time in the Authorized Values screen.
20:26 datadoctor which corresponds to the "Description" field.
20:26 jcamins_away Right, we are with you that far.
20:26 datadoctor The system sorts by 'lib
20:26 jcamins_away Based on what you've said, I'd say it doesn't matter what order they're in because it's just a list of authorized value. However, clearly it is a problem.
20:25 datadoctor :)
20:25 datadoctor That way my menu would display in the order that I entered the authorized values.
20:25 jcamins_away datadoctor: that can't be your only goal. There must be a *reason* you want it sorted by id number, right?
20:25 wajasu if the id is in the menu and that is the order you want, maybe some javascript can reorder things. just a suggestion.
20:25 datadoctor I want to sort by id number.
20:24 jcamins_away datadoctor: okay, but what are you trying to do?
20:24 datadoctor When I pull the array, I get it sorted alphabetically by "Description", so my menu re-orders alphabetically by title.
20:23 datadoctor The system generates a sequential id for each authorized value.
20:22 datadoctor I am filling the Authorized Value field with an abbreviation, the Description with the Menu Title, The Description (OPAC) with the Menu link, and the Icon with a path to my menu icon.
20:22 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
20:22 wizzyrea the first question?
20:21 datadoctor In the code that is 'lib'
20:20 datadoctor The Description field
20:20 datadoctor I guess I could use a number in that field.
20:20 cait i mean which authorised value and which display?
20:20 datadoctor I have defined a list of menu items for mobile Koha, consisting of a menu title, a menu link, and a menu icon. When I pull the authorized values in PERL, I get them ordered by menu title.
20:20 cait datadoctor: what are you trying to do? :)
20:18 rangi datadoctor: sort where?
20:18 rangi hehe
20:16 datadoctor Hi All! Quick question: When I define authorized values for Koha, they sort by 'Description" (coded as 'lib' ). However I would like to sort by the order I entered the list, or 'id' - Any ideas?
20:14 wizzyrea ;)
20:14 wizzyrea oh, I was winning him over with my persuasive charm
20:13 wahanui cait: suboptimal routing experience
20:13 cait excuse?
20:12 rangi didnt your mum ever tell you, you cant force boys to like you!
20:11 wizzyrea aw, that's not what I taught you!
20:11 wahanui wizzyrea: huh?
20:11 wizzyrea wahanui likes me
20:10 wahanui rangi: Your Flux Capacitor has gone bad.
20:10 rangi excuse
20:10 wahanui wizzyrea: what?
20:10 wizzyrea wahanui likes me.
20:10 rangi ill push some stuff then do some signoffs
20:10 wizzyrea *nod*
20:10 wahanui wizzyrea: Hard drive sleeping. Let it wake up on it's own...
20:10 wizzyrea excuse?
20:09 jcamins_away Yup.
20:08 rangi busy paul
19:54 rangi Strict regexp
19:53 rangi Yeah
19:53 rangi Excuse
19:53 jcamins_away It would seem not.
19:53 jcamins_away Excuse?
19:53 rangi Doesn't like capitals
19:53 wahanui jcamins_away: terrorist activities
19:53 jcamins_away excuse your lack of excuses
19:53 wahanui jcamins_away: backup tape overwritten with copy of system manager's favourite CD
19:53 jcamins_away excuse my lack of excuses!
19:53 rangi Hmmm
19:53 rangi Excuse?
19:52 rangi Excuse
19:52 * jcamins_away is really enjoying wahanui's conversational abilities of late.
19:50 rangi Hehe
19:50 trea good point wahanui
19:49 wahanui well, EVERYTHING is grilled
19:49 trea EVERYTHING
19:49 rangi Trea tells us EVERYTHING
19:47 wizzyrea well that makes sense
19:47 wizzyrea OH
19:47 jcamins_away wizzyrea: trea told us when oleonard was looking for you.
19:47 wizzyrea I seriously don't recall telling anybody lol.
19:47 wizzyrea jeez how do people know I was at a retreat!
19:47 jcamins_away He wanted to talk to you again!
19:46 wizzyrea i talked to him earlier :)
19:45 jcamins_away Wow, I guess oleonard really wanted to talk with you.
19:41 jcamins_away Welcome back from your retreat.
19:41 jcamins_away I'd prefer it a bit cooler, actually.
19:41 wizzyrea about perfect in NYC
19:40 wizzyrea *nod*
19:40 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 13.3°C (2:37 PM CDT on September 13, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1027 hPa (Falling).
19:40 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks
19:32 huginn jcamins_away: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 25.0°C (3:30 PM EDT on September 13, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Falling).
19:32 jcamins_away @wunder 11375
19:32 rangi High of 15 today
19:31 senator well, except for the 7am part. bleh.
19:31 * senator envies this --^
19:30 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on September 14, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
19:30 rangi @wunder nzwn
19:30 rangi Morning
18:51 oleonard Ask me tomorrow if it's still unsigned. Leaving in 10.
18:49 jcamins_away :)
18:48 jcamins_away Apply patch, run test again, note it doesn't.
18:48 jcamins_away Run test with TEST_QA environment variable set to 1. Note that it fails.
18:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches
18:48 jcamins_away oleonard: you can sign off on my followup for bug 7417 without any handholding!
18:40 * magnuse wanders off
18:40 magnuse just give me a hint if it's too much
18:35 * magnuse opens the floodgates on twitter
18:32 oleonard I'm quite willing to have my hand held while a patch author walks me through testing something confusing :)
18:31 magnuse yeah, just looking at the number of comments on some of them is discouraging...
18:31 cait and lots of cool features waiting and bug fixes and.. and... and.. :)
18:31 magnuse 74 bugs need signoff
18:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Add information warning about log-in as root user to About->System information
18:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8017 minor, P4, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Remove unnecessary processing on return of GetAllIssues
18:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4118 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add Collection Code to Statistics Table
18:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8339 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , div id="login" should be id="login_controls" in header.inc
18:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7583 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , undo receive
18:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8677 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , table overlapping to the right on holds waiting
18:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8716 normal, P4, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Reordering of routing list entries doesn't work
18:30 jenkins_koha * veron: Bug 8641 - Add information warning about log-in as root user to About->System information
18:30 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 8017 reduce manipulation of GetAllIssues return
18:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3456 minor, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Serials receipt note
18:30 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 4118 follow-up DBRev number
18:30 jenkins_koha * kyle.m.hall: Bug 4118 - Add Collection Code to Statistics Table
18:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7068 major, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , autobarcode not working when duplicating patrons
18:30 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7583 follow-up DBRev number
18:30 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8339 - div id="login" should be id="login_controls" in header.inc
18:30 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7583 follow-up: Prevent users to cancel receipt if they can't
18:30 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7583: Cancel a receipt
18:30 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8677 - table overlapping to the right on holds waiting
18:30 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 8716 - make the routing list reordering function work
18:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8598 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , No patron image or home library on Files & Statistics tabs
18:30 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 3456: Show internalnotes when receiving serials
18:30 jenkins_koha * mjr: fix bug 7068 - autobarcode not working when duplicating patrons
18:30 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8598 - No patron image or home library on Files & Statistics tabs
18:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #828: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/828/
18:30 magnuse ...which is now, if you choose the right timezone :-)
18:30 oleonard There are a lot of tough nuts to crack on the signoff list
18:29 wahanui i heard next gbsd was http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2012-09-14_Global_bug_squashing_day
18:29 magnuse next gbsd?
17:47 jcamins Remote server FTW!
17:47 magnuse cli ftw!
17:46 magnuse clever!
17:46 jcamins magnuse: yes. :)
17:45 magnuse ah, you not only had the idea but followed through on it too, i guess :-)
17:45 magnuse jcamins: that paste was for you ;-)
17:45 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "All Failed Tests" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/172
17:35 * jcamins had the idea of using lynx and a remote shell.
17:35 jcamins Hm. Test::Perl::Critic is complaining.
17:28 jcamins Could someone please confirm for me that there haven't been any new failures?
17:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #828 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 11 days ago)
17:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7968 normal, P5 - low, ---, sofiane.elharsal, Pushed to Master , create meta-packages to simplify installation of koha
17:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7986 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Export issues
17:24 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7968 follow-up typo fixes
17:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8761 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Correct compile time warnings in C4::Circulation
17:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
17:24 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7986 follow-up DBRev numbers
17:24 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 7986: Export issues for patron
17:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
17:24 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 8761 Dont inadvertantly use slices
17:24 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7143 tiny follow-up, removing tabs
17:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3461 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Duplicate overdue email notices caused by message settings not being controled by CircControl in System Prerfrences
17:24 jenkins_koha * melia: Bug 7143: Adding Kathryn Tyree to the history and About page.
17:24 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7500 [FOLLOW-UP, revised][Social networks] Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
17:24 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7500 [FOLLOW-UP][Missing images] Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
17:24 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7500 [FOLLOW-UP][Star ratings] Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
17:24 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 3461 follow-up DBRev number
17:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #827: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/827/
17:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8641 - Add information warning about log-in as root user to About->System information <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=60790d0aef8302983fb6aeb775e1c9ce8f8cd8d3> / Bug 8017 reduce manipulation of GetAllIssues return <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef7ebc4ed4004dd3287e87500a6cce266c59cba6> / Bug 4118 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitw
17:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8428 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , can't save contracts
17:09 * oleonard hopes someone will QA Bug 8428
17:04 paul_p this time, bye bye #koha
17:04 jcamins Thanks.
17:04 paul_p jcamins = i'll try tomorrow again with an autority retrieved from BNF or soemthing like that. switch back to "passed QA" to be sure I won't forget
17:04 jcamins paul_p: so I guess we need to get a valid authority so you can test whether it works with UNIMARC.
17:03 paul_p OK, time to leave for me, 6 patches still "passed QA" ! QA team, continue to feed me ;-)
17:03 jcamins (exporting UNIMARC authorities)
17:03 jcamins I thought francharb tested it for me.
17:03 jcamins Hm. Guess the exporting authorities from Koha doesn't work right.
17:02 paul_p jcamins = if you hexedit or cat the authority, you'll see that the auth is $aAberg$bSally Jean
17:01 paul_p jcamins = try marcdump auth.utf8 (or yaz-marcdump)
17:01 paul_p jcamins = see below = this auth has been exported from Koha, and it is correct. But it seems that the export is wrong.
17:00 jcamins paul_p: according to my logs, that authority doesn't have a heading, or any contents. :(
16:57 * jcamins should know better than to read English right-to-left.
16:57 jcamins *the first is not
16:57 ago43 thanks very much, jcamins!
16:56 jcamins The second is explicitly wordlist,the second is not.
16:56 ago43 thanks, jcamins. one other question: What are the differences between "<option value='adate'>Auction date and <option value='Host-item,wrdl'> . I'm looking at the ",wrdl" here.
16:55 jcamins :)
16:55 * jcamins will fix it. Fear not.
16:54 jcamins paul_p: you're right. This authority does not like importing. Mine must have been wrong. :(
16:54 jcamins All that jQuery does is add an index to the interface. It doesn't make any changes to how the indexer works.
16:54 jcamins Or the DOM equivalents, of course.
16:53 jcamins ago43: ccl.properties, bib1.att, and record.abs.
16:52 ago43 k. I'm not sure what you mean by indexing config?
16:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7583 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e802846ddc1a216020af994da9088aba60d848cb>
16:51 jcamins ago43: you have to change the indexing config if you are changing indexing.
16:51 cait now packing for berlin
16:51 cait I just got home from the conf
16:51 cait maybe I will catch him later
16:51 cait hi oleonard - and thx
16:51 cait hi paul_p
16:51 paul_p (Directory offset 24: Data out of bounds 61072 >= 138)
16:51 paul_p (Directory offset 72: Bad value for data length and/or length starting (7\x1E18786\x1E \x1Fa))
16:51 paul_p jcamins = but it seems my authority (exported from Koha), is wrong : 00138nx a2200073 4500
16:51 paul_p jcamins done
16:50 oleonard he was here earlier cait
16:50 ago43 1. In the past, ccl.properties, bib1.att, and record.abs needed to be edited with the appropriate entries in order for additional custom-indexing to work. By using this jquery, do I only need to edit ccl.properties? Or do these other files need editing?
16:50 ago43 Hi jcamins, and All: I've got a few questions about http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library#Add_additional_searches_to_OPAC .
16:50 cait hm no drojf?
16:50 cait hi magnuse
16:50 * magnuse waves to cait
16:49 jcamins I made up my own authorities, and I'm not a UNIMARC cataloger.
16:49 jcamins Thanks.
16:49 paul_p jcamins yep
16:49 paul_p jcamins = I choose the other path once, and, murphy's law... made a mistake :
16:49 jcamins Could you please post the authority you are testing with?
16:48 jcamins Okay.
16:48 paul_p jcamins = yep, i've copied that to updatedatabase.pl, and run updatedatabase.pl with that, as usual (to avoid pushing an update I haven't tested exactly like I push it)
16:48 paul_p jcamins = and the proof is that the import appears correctly, so the new table has been field.
16:48 jcamins Okay. It's in installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/importauthorities.pl
16:47 paul_p jcamins = yes I did (will check again later, but i'm pretty sure)
16:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client
16:47 jcamins paul_p: did you run the database update for bug 2060?
16:47 * oleonard gets a list of barcodes currently checked out (and not today)
16:46 oleonard "Export today's checked in barcodes" should show me barcodes for items which were checked in today?
16:44 paul_p fortunately, the one i'm playing with atm are easy !
16:43 paul_p This morning, the passed QA pile was ... 19. a few minuts ago it was ... 19 !!! not kidding. some are "passed QA machines" too ;-)
16:43 paul_p oleonard agreed ;-)
16:43 jcamins Sure is!
16:43 oleonard paul_p is a patch-pushing machine today
16:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8339 - div id="login" should be id="login_controls" in header.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d73e1d9dde5e0cad64a2c892401b91838ac51239> / Bug 7583 follow-up: Prevent users to cancel receipt if they can't <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5c127f3391a5cec575b650afe41b8fe32fc3e579> / Bug 7583: Cancel a receipt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.
16:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7968 follow-up typo fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=702896d0618f58dda8ca96de4c59cb1025d3fc40> / Bug 7986 follow-up DBRev numbers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c07de01ca5a2ee2904de5b86927b45c140443b36> / Bug 7986: Export issues for patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f3f61e756609fab636cea6ab387d9302b572861> /
16:20 gaetan_B bye !
16:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #827 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 11 days ago)
16:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Link see alsos in authorities
16:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches
16:17 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 3462: Links in authorities should be hyperlinks
16:17 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7417: Include see from references in bibliographic searches
16:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #826: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/826/
15:59 jcamins paul_p: as far as I can tell, 2060 works with UNIMARC. But I wrote my own UNIMARC records, which might not actually have been valid. If you could send me a record that you're using, I will test with that, too. :)
15:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3461 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1aa058eb37b55bdbbd2e52f97349360243aee01>
15:39 jcamins Now there is.
15:38 jcamins git-bz failed.
15:38 jcamins No there isn't.
15:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities
15:38 jcamins paul_p: there's another follow-up patch on bug 8209.
15:31 * mtompset waves bye.
15:30 mtompset Just throwing out wild ideas. :)
15:30 mtompset perhaps there is a limit on how many environment variables can be set, and that just happens to be the one not set?
15:29 mtompset That would give you no icon, unless you pasted a favicon into that wrong location.
15:28 mtompset Perhaps there is some code, some where that isn't setting it.
15:28 mtompset They require %themelang% to be set.
15:28 mtompset Consider the IF/ELSE statements in the templates.
15:27 mtompset Also, if the problem is the favicon.
15:27 gaetan_B true, the favicon not being different by default in itseld is not a big problem, but if what looms behind is templates that don't get translated properly, then....
15:27 mtompset no sense... It's late... I must retire.
15:24 mtompset Well, it makes so sense to check the OpacFavicon variable in an Intranet template, in my opinion.
15:24 gaetan_B anyway, i guess it's a minor problem ;)
15:24 gaetan_B mtompset: i second that, i had noticed this with the french template, when is still had a different favicon in the english one
15:23 mtompset But give the hour and my poor memory, I don't stand by that 100% :)
15:22 mtompset I noticed that while hunting for this bug.
15:22 mtompset some of the templates fallback to the OpacFavicon.
15:21 oleonard mtompset: I don't have IntranetFavicon set and I have no problems with the favicon on the login screen
15:21 gaetan_B mtompset: what's really strange, is that i see the same favicon in both places in the sources, that i downloaded this monday
15:21 jcamins paul_p: oh, yes, I was right, there will be another follow-up coming shortly.
15:21 mtompset Because if IntranetFavicon doesn't get set, then you get those weird behaviours.
15:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8737 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , Incorrect icon at login in staff client
15:20 mtompset Are you sure that isn't related to bug 8737 somehow?
15:20 oleonard Sometimes. But not today.
15:19 mtompset You see the OPAC one when editing system preferences sometimes?!
15:18 mtompset There are IntranetFavicon and OpacFavicon sysprefs.
15:17 gaetan_B oleonard: interesting =-O
15:17 jcamins gaetan_B: I have different favicons between the two.
15:17 oleonard Each of us seems to have his own favicon bug. Mine is that I see the OPAC one when I'm editing system preferences. Sometimes.
15:17 gaetan_B (that could mean the problem comes from something inside biblibre definitely, but i don't see what...)
15:16 gaetan_B am i the only one seeing, by default, the same favicon in opac and intranet ?
15:12 mtompset Yes, 5 hours or so ago.
15:12 jcamins mtompset: kiribati, I think.
15:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #826 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 10 days ago)
15:11 mtompset Oh cool... GBSD has technically begun somewhere in the world.
15:11 jcamins SJeffery: thanks!
15:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3462: Links in authorities should be hyperlinks <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4f043f3f7783c2457b38858e181b8dbd3b8b8ae6> / Bug 7417: Include see from references in bibliographic searches <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc05b5d163ae1aabd6fad813a8cf8e784ea6e90b>
15:10 SJeffery jcamins: let me know when you want me to test again. I will try not to find five new, unrelated bugs next time :)
15:07 reiveune bye
15:04 jcamins SJeffery: that was pre-QA, I think.
15:04 SJeffery I hate to ask, but who submitted and signed off on that one?
15:03 magnuse SJeffery++ for testing stuff!
15:03 Joubu bye ++
15:02 jcamins SJeffery: just be glad you weren't around during 3.4... back when it just deleted all your headings.
15:02 SJeffery Next project: that evil linking script
15:00 * magnuse is a crazy librarian too...
15:00 magnuse SJeffery: sure! :-)
14:59 SJeffery magnuse: Do you really want us crazy librarians playing in git?
14:59 jcamins [off] Explaining to his IT department why SSH/git was necessary seems... unnecessarily painful.
14:59 * oleonard thinks rangi said it but I'm not positive
14:59 magnuse ah, ok, never mind me then :-)
14:58 oleonard It has been said before that "verbal" signoffs would be accepted
14:58 jcamins magnuse: I set up a server with 2060 on it for him to test with.
14:58 magnuse SJeffery: you really should sign off on the code with git, i think
14:56 SJeffery Was the way I signed off on 2060 the correct way? (first signoff)
14:56 gaetan_B so it shouldn't be this way. Weird.
14:56 gaetan_B this is an install i did monday afternoon my history shows i did "git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha"
14:56 jcamins s/facion/favicon/
14:55 jcamins gaetan_B: is it possible you're testing something that was ported off of BibLibre master which accidentally included the wrong favicon?
14:55 jcamins gaetan_B: sounds like the wrong facion is in your staff templates.
14:53 eythian then blah blah stuff with apache :)
14:53 eythian oh right
14:53 mtompset the old install is a tarball. ;)
14:52 eythian that'll put a warning on both the staff and opac
14:52 eythian mtompset: sudo koha-disable instancename
14:51 gaetan_B oleonard: at that place on my hard drive for this install i have the opac icon
14:51 oleonard gaetan_B: That link shows you the OPAC icon?
14:51 mtompset Is it a permissions problem?
14:51 gaetan_B yep
14:51 oleonard gaetan_B: /intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/favicon.ico ?
14:50 wizzyrea oh
14:50 mtompset Can't remember who replied.
14:50 mtompset read the IRC logs. oleonard was looking for you.
14:50 gaetan_B oleonard: the one i see in the source is the one i see on the screen (the opac one)
14:50 wizzyrea I am >.> how would you know that:P
14:50 * wizzyrea waves
14:50 mtompset Good to see you, wizzyrea.
14:50 * magnuse waves at wizzyrea
14:50 mtompset Hey, aren't you at a staff retreat today?
14:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8737 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , Incorrect icon at login in staff client
14:49 mtompset bug 8737
14:49 oleonard gaetan_B: When you view source and follow the link in the source to the .ico file do you see the one you expect?
14:49 gaetan_B ahah so we have a culprit :p
14:48 gaetan_B and i still don't see it oleonard, the strangest thing is that i also don't see it in the english templates !
14:48 mtompset Actually, that may be related to the favicon patch I put out there.
14:48 gaetan_B i did a fresh install 2 days ago, for demonstration puporses
14:48 oleonard Still not working for you gaetan_B?
14:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8473 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Different favicon in the staff client only shows in the english templates
14:47 gaetan_B about bug 8473 :
14:46 mtompset Which is why the other hack was get the staff client to show the OPAC page with the syspref set.
14:46 jcamins That's a lot easier than trying to make Koha handle DNS remapping.
14:46 jcamins Sure
14:46 jcamins I would've said that was just disabling the virtual host, but that's just me.
14:45 mtompset back to default and give dummy page.
14:45 mtompset hack apache. ;)
14:45 jcamins So, take it down on the old machine.
14:45 mtompset I don't want staff to accidentally add/delete anything that hasn't been transferred.
14:45 jcamins In that case, take down Koha on the old one and replace it with a static page that says "If you see this, try again in 6 hours."
14:44 mtompset Yes.
14:44 jcamins mtompset: ah, they are actually different machines?
14:44 mtompset The problem is DNS propagation time updating.
14:44 oleonard And I would generally believe that staff could tell the difference between "logging in to email" and "logging in to Mozilla Foxfire," but I'm generally wrong.
14:44 mtompset you can if they are different machines.
14:43 jcamins And you probably can't have your server at the two IPs simultaneously anyway.
14:42 oleonard Heh.
14:42 jcamins No, it's generally believed that staff can be told not to use the staff client.
14:41 mtompset fake the apache out to make it think it is OPAC?\
14:41 mtompset What about the staff side?
14:41 mtompset That will capture the OPAC side.
14:41 jcamins mtompset: you can turn on OPACMaintenance, but I don't think that'll do what you want.
14:41 mtompset The name isn't changing, just the IP.
14:40 mtompset Question: We have our site hosted at IP Address X, we are moving to IP Address Y. Is there a way to make the staff and OPAC give a maintenance warning nicely?
14:38 mtompset It was humorous. :)
14:38 wajasu nice
14:36 * tcohen managed to get a shibboleth IdP running against UNC's LDAP, now, going to read CAS code to mimic it for shibboleth
14:36 oleonard No mtompset, that was for you to use for such an occasion.
14:35 mtompset Fine. fine. I got it wrong. Syllabic weighting.
14:34 oleonard http://emotibot.net/pix/6049.jpg
14:34 * wajasu running benchmark_staff for fun
14:33 mtompset Yes, but the syllable breaks are different.
14:32 wahanui moped is the only form of transport that is a past participle.
14:32 mtompset moped?
14:12 wahanui jcamins: We already sent around a notice about that.
14:12 jcamins excuse?
14:12 eythian oh
14:12 wahanui i already had it that way, eythian.
14:12 eythian wahanui: moped is the only form of transport that is a past participle.
14:12 eythian err
14:12 eythian wajasu: moped is the only form of transport that is a past participle.
14:10 eythian and wajasu
14:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , display suggestions from librarian library only by default
14:10 eythian oleonard: also bug 7300
14:06 mtompset No time like the present to try.
14:06 jcamins I wouldn't think so, but I've never tried.
14:05 mtompset So, nothing break on a forward basis for just update, upgrading packages if I copy the missing directory?
14:04 magnuse jcamins++
14:01 jcamins mtompset: it can happen.
14:00 mtompset The tarball has it, but the packages is missing it?!
14:00 mtompset Okay, I'm confused.
13:58 jcamins paul_p: it may comfort you to think you're in the home stretch, at least as concerns authority patches from me. Only 6 more. :)
13:58 wajasu just wanted to be sure one existed. my typo
13:58 magnuse wajasu: does it say "Seggestions" or was that your typo?
13:55 mtompset Yep... The current 3.8.4 koha-common is missing the plugins directory. 3.8.x has it.
13:52 jcamins Well, there's a bug.
13:52 jcamins Oh.
13:52 oleonard No patch
13:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8274 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , count of suggestions on main page wrong
13:51 oleonard Bug 8274
13:51 jcamins wajasu: there's a bug (and patch) for that. It's not showing you suggestions from all libraries by default.
13:50 wajasu just pulled a fresh master. in staff client i see "Seggestions pending approval: 1" at bottom of mainpage. I clicked it. I don't see anything in the list and the tab has Pending(0)
13:49 jcamins oleonard: I believe it does, but I'm not sure.
13:49 mtompset No, sorry.
13:45 oleonard Since we don't charge fines I haven't run into the issue in production
13:44 oleonard Anyone know if owing too much in fines blocks a patron from SIP-authenticated operations like being debarred does?
13:43 oleonard Okay, thanks trea
13:43 trea doubt it oleonard. She's at a staff retreat today.
13:42 oleonard wizzyrea around?
13:39 mtompset starting up my VM to check 3.8.x
13:38 mtompset Ah... addbibilio.tt and authorities.tt use bubbling and loading scripts from the plugins directory...
13:37 magnuse but not as much rain as they said it would be - yay!
13:37 trea :D
13:37 magnuse trea: definitely fall here - lots of colours
13:36 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on September 13, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Steady).
13:36 magnuse @wunder boo
13:34 mtompset This is the 3.8.4 packages.
13:34 trea how's Bodø today?
13:33 trea kia ora magnuse!
13:33 magnuse kia ora trea!
13:31 oleonard git blame --divert
13:31 jcamins In that case, it wasn't my fault.
13:31 oleonard I don't get the error in master
13:30 jcamins Oh, what version?
13:30 mtompset Okay... that may be a possibility.
13:29 mtompset Did I miss a step in a packages install?
13:29 jcamins mtompset: hm, sounds like there was a hardcoded reference to the old YUI directory.
13:29 magnuse cool
13:29 jcamins magnuse: it did, yes.
13:29 mtompset [Thu Sep 13 18:47:49 2012] [error] [client 192.168.100.2] File does not exist: /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/plugins, referer: https://.../cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl?biblionumber=39466&amp;op=
13:29 mtompset speaking of yui...
13:28 magnuse jcamins: did that paste answer your question?
13:28 * mtompset is just throwing out wild ideas.
13:28 magnuse heh
13:28 mtompset ah, perhaps jenkins took over from a previous porn ip address?
13:27 jcamins magnuse: I can get to www.k-c.org.
13:27 jcamins lol
13:27 jcamins Yay!
13:27 magnuse block port 80 - better safe than sorry!
13:27 jcamins It's the weirdest firewall I have ever encountered.
13:27 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "All Failed Tests" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/171
13:27 oleonard What kind of weird firewall is that jcamins?
13:26 jcamins magnuse: nope.
13:26 magnuse jcamins: you can't see this? http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/825/testReport/
13:26 oleonard libsysguy: I have adapted the theme for each widget as it is added to Koha.
13:26 * libsysguy looks at oleonard :p
13:25 * libsysguy wishes there was a standard jquery-ui theme for all the widgets
13:25 * jcamins is behind a firewall that blocks jenkins.
13:25 jcamins Could someone please confirm for me that the only tests that failed last build were the syspref one and the barcode one?
13:25 libsysguy indeed
13:25 jcamins paul_p: disregard that last. The fix still works. :)
13:24 * magnuse thinks the new staff interface is great in that respect
13:24 libsysguy i don't…I've seen it work magic
13:23 magnuse don't underestimate the power of eyecandy... ;-)
13:22 jcamins lol
13:22 libsysguy oleonard why don't we need the exploding bounce effect lol
13:22 libsysguy awww
13:21 jcamins_away I originally wrote 8209 after 7417.
13:21 oleonard Like I said before, I don't think we need all the effects
13:21 jcamins_away paul_p: I'll have a follow-up for my follow-up shortly. I just remembered why the test was breaking.
13:21 oleonard ...because enough of us need what's left.
13:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8644 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , jQueryUI CSS file should not contain customizations
13:21 oleonard libsysguy: Now that Bug 8644 is pushed, I don't mind if the next person who needs a new jqueryUI widget adds *most* of the whole library
13:20 magnuse jenkins has a game?
13:20 magnuse w00t! http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/825/cigame/
13:20 libsysguy but you know
13:20 libsysguy i mean…not you push it
13:20 libsysguy oleonard did you decide it was ok to push all of jquery ui?
13:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities
13:17 jenkins_koha jcamins: Bug 8209 follow-up: fix failing test in AuthorityFile suggestion plugin
13:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #825: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/825/
13:15 wajasu awesome 8209 is on master
13:10 samuel ok
13:09 mtompset It's not related to your problem.
13:09 samuel mtompset:....i'm a bit lost
13:08 mtompset Technically someone could create a category code 0.
13:07 mtompset Oh wait... wrong column... shoot it's a varchar!
13:06 samuel 1
13:06 mtompset Can they start at 0?
13:06 mtompset Do Auto Values start at 1?
13:05 mtompset Wait... maybe not.
13:04 * mtompset groans, "Oh no! Not another broken logic mess."
12:59 samuel yep but is it possible to have a problem like that? I've all the fields, except 930 and 955....sounds strange but i'll discuss with my colleagues
12:56 mtompset And I'm not familiar with UNIMARC, sorry.
12:55 slef I don't know much then, sorry. Not in a place to look it up right now (mobile at lunch)
12:54 wahanui i guess unimarc is http://www.ifla.org/en/publications/unimarc-formats-and-related-documentation
12:54 samuel unimarc
12:54 slef Samuel: or Marc 21?
12:53 slef UNI MARC?
12:53 mtompset I can see what you are saying about multiple file patches and mung'ing file names now.
12:53 samuel slef: yes (the first method we've followed was very very bad). To answer, it is 930 &955 field
12:53 slef Shh you can get away with it then
12:52 mtompset Yes.
12:52 slef mtompset, is it a single-file patch?
12:52 mtompset got a .orig out of it.
12:52 mtompset then "patch -p0 detail.pl ~/bug_8175.patch"
12:51 mtompset I deleted like 3-4 lines.
12:51 slef Samuel: what fields? Doesn't sound completely successful:-)
12:51 mtompset Actually, I didn't mung any filenames.
12:51 slef Yeah, minor tweak to mung filenames:-)
12:50 slef You'll get .rej files
12:50 samuel question for anyone too: I've made successfully an import but some fields can't be displayed, although i choose "yes" for mandatory
12:50 mtompset -- it will with a minor tweak. ;)
12:50 slef It won't apply
12:50 mtompset I know the file name. I know the change.
12:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8175 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , items.materials check logs error or displays incorrectly in details.pl
12:49 mtompset for example... I happen to know I want bug 8175's patch applied to a 3.8.4 package install.
12:49 mtompset Okay, so what happens if I apply the patch without mung'ing the filenames?
12:49 slef Need to mung because installed layout is different to git
12:49 magnuse the wiki page is not completely up to date, but it should give you an idea of the steps involved
12:47 slef Recommended way is probably to use debian build - git - snapshot
12:47 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way
12:47 mtompset mung filenames? why?
12:47 magnuse mtompset: you could build your own packages, that include the patch
12:47 slef You can apply it, but you'll have to mung filenames
12:46 mtompset Question for anyone around. Let's say I install packages in a production environment, and then I find a bug. So I use my dev environment to generate a patch. And the patch gets signed off at bugzilla, can I apply the patch to my production system? Or is there some other method recommended?
12:44 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
12:38 wahanui i guess Coffee is mostly not Brooke's medicine
12:38 slef Coffee?
12:32 tcohen morning #koha
12:31 oleonard It's morning for me, but I'm already wondering what's going to get me through my post-lunch coma
12:30 * magnuse too
12:30 drojf oh no do go on, i need something to get me out of the post-lunch-coma
12:29 oleonard Oh sorry drojf did I wake you up? I was just putting away some dishes.
12:29 drojf whats that noise?
12:29 * drojf peers in
12:29 magnuse kia ora oleonard!
12:27 * oleonard bangs some pots and pans to wake everyone up
12:18 oleonard Hi #koha
12:15 * jcamins heads into the city.
12:14 jcamins And you can't blame me for the need to test that. ;)
12:13 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8209' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=12c48b7ff7bc5ae4a2bae8e291ede3fa08e70808> / Bug 8209 follow-up: fix failing test in AuthorityFile suggestion plugin <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=65e67dd7fcc61c936571e3e5581fcfbe5873cb42>
12:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8304 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Failed QA , composed authorities Rameau management
12:13 jcamins paul_p: the work on bug 8304 is quite good, too.
12:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #825 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 10 days ago)
12:06 magnuse heh
12:06 paul_p s/patch/path/
12:06 paul_p (well, I'm french, so I suppose I'm supposed to choose the complain patch ;-) )
12:05 * paul_p hesitates between being happy for the work made on authorities by jcamins or complaining because that's a *lot* of stuff to test ;-) ;-)
12:05 jcamins paul_p: my plan is to support solr with the suggestion plugins, BTW.
12:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches
12:05 * paul_p playing with bug 7417
12:05 jcamins Ooh, it's beautiful out today. :)
12:05 paul_p The other jenking failure is to be solved by rangi on jenkins itself I think (>>> t_db_dependent_check_sysprefs_t.Syspref DidYouMeanFromAuthorities exists in the database (91) ). The last one (>>> t_db_dependent_Barcodes_t.Number of runned tests does not match plan. (45) ) being an old one
12:05 magnuse paul_p++
12:04 jcamins paul_p++
12:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities
12:03 paul_p jcamins = follow-up for bug 8209 pushed.
12:03 * paul_p back from lunch
11:55 samuel hi everybody
11:48 jcamins paul_p: there's a fix for the failing test on bug 8209.
11:48 * jcamins waves to paul_p
11:44 jcamins :)
11:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities
11:44 jcamins Joubu: I have a patch for the failing test on bug 8209.
11:33 jcamins That was actually much harder than expected.
11:33 jcamins Joubu: rebased. :)
11:32 Joubu jcamins: ok thanks
11:22 jcamins Joubu: rebasing 8726 now.
11:21 jcamins If I am RM for 3.12, I think I will have to get rangi to walk me through how jenkins works using very small words.
11:18 jcamins_away I don't understand why that failed.
11:18 * jcamins_away scratches his head.
11:17 jenkins_koha * gmc: bug 8649: quiet a variable use warning
11:17 jenkins_koha * gmc: bug 8649: create a temp directory for Zebra for C4::Search tests
11:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8649 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , C4::Search needs a unit test
11:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities
11:17 jenkins_koha * gmc: bug 8649: make sure we can exit if a test fails
11:17 jenkins_koha * gmc: bug 8649: make sure C4::Context is fully mocked-up before tests
11:17 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8649: Add unit test for C4::Search
11:17 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8209 follow-up DBRev number
11:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8431 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Increase the borrower attribute field size from 64 characters to 255
11:17 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8209: "Did you mean?" from authorities
11:17 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8431 follow-up : |html_line_break in 2 tempates
11:17 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: bug 8431 follow-up DBRev number
11:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8644 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , jQueryUI CSS file should not contain customizations
11:17 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8431 - Followup - Switch from text input to textarea
11:17 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8431 - Increase the borrower attribute field size from 64 characters to 255
11:17 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8644 [OPAC] jQueryUI CSS file should not contain customizations
11:17 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8644 [staff client] jQueryUI CSS file should not contain customizations
11:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #824: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/824/
10:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #824 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 10 days ago)
10:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 8649: quiet a variable use warning <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2904fc0752060cdb7c2c8c0fc79f962839319e44> / bug 8649: create a temp directory for Zebra for C4::Search tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=574becb11a867db7375159be266e9716704c29f8> / bug 8649: make sure we can exit if a test fails <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commi
09:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8209 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a81850fe402eb93c27ea249b9d65d67ec9b314d> / Bug 8209: "Did you mean?" from authorities <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8471158160b760f614be3b4f3c39297808b117d6> / Bug 8431 follow-up : |html_line_break in 2 tempates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce6898655e8e01e85
09:29 mveron drojf: mbalmer's talk will be tomorrow 10:30 No live stream I guess, but you can always book him to give a talk in Berlin :-)
09:00 drojf mveron: has mbalmer had his talk already?
09:00 drojf mveron: sounds cool! :)
08:56 Joubu hello all
08:52 mveron drojf: Late answer :-) Very interesting, many people interested in Koha...
08:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Failed QA , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view
08:46 * paul_p just spent more than one hour on bug 8597
08:46 paul_p hello #koha
08:09 wahanui privet, eythian
08:09 eythian hi there
08:03 drojf hi eythian
07:51 drojf hi mveron. first day?
07:51 drojf good day #koha
07:49 mveron Hi #koha from BIS Congress in Konstanz
07:18 gaetan_B hello :)
06:49 wahanui hola, reiveune
06:49 reiveune hello
06:29 alex_a1 s/t/r/
06:29 alex_a1 bonjout koha!
06:24 wahanui it has been said that comedy is funny indeed. Ask me about [solr] and [germs].
06:24 Waylon comedy?
06:24 wahanui OK, Waylon.
06:24 Waylon wahanui, comedy is funny indeed. Ask me about [solr] and [germs].
06:24 wahanui Waylon: excuse me?
06:24 Waylon wahanui, comedy indeed. Ask me about [solr] and [germs].
06:22 Waylon joke?
06:22 Waylon funny?
06:22 Waylon humor?
06:22 Waylon comedy?
05:37 cait ok, have to go :)
05:37 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
05:37 cait germs?
05:34 * Waylon inserted some comedy into wahanui
05:30 Waylon eeep! http://catalogue.solr-demo.biblibre.com/ 502 Bad Gateway
05:29 wahanui i think haha is there already a branch for 3.6?
05:29 wajasu haha?
05:27 Waylon haha
05:27 wahanui solr is fast, really fast, faster than me! And koha wiki has a page about it, found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Solr/Lucene_Documentation
05:27 Waylon solr?
05:27 wahanui OK, Waylon.
05:27 Waylon wahanui, Solr is fast, really fast, faster than me! And koha wiki has a page about it, found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Solr/Lucene_Documentation
05:27 wahanui Waylon: I forgot solr
05:27 Waylon wahanui, forget solr
05:27 wahanui solr is fast, really fast, and koha wiki has a page about it, found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Solr/Lucene_Documentation
05:27 Waylon solr?
05:27 wahanui OK, Waylon.
05:27 Waylon wahanui, Solr is fast, really fast, and koha wiki has a page about it, found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Solr/Lucene_Documentation
05:27 wahanui Waylon: I forgot solr
05:27 Waylon wahanui, forget solr
05:26 wahanui Waylon, I didn't have anything matching about solr
05:26 Waylon wahanui, forget about solr
05:26 wahanui ...but solr is fast...
05:26 Waylon wahanui, Solr is fast, really fast, and koha wiki has a page about it, found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Solr/Lucene_Documentation
05:25 cait I think you have to install lots of more dependencies first to get it to run
05:25 cait there are pages on the wiki about it
05:25 Waylon right.
05:25 cait but everyhing in master now will also be available in 3.10
05:25 wahanui solr is fast
05:25 Waylon solr?
05:24 * Waylon nods.
05:24 cait I am not sure how much it covers
05:24 cait i haven't tried it
05:24 Waylon i.e not ready for production system as yet?
05:24 cait it's experimental
05:21 Waylon and is it available also in 3.10?
05:21 Waylon ooo, mtj how mature is Solr in master?
04:47 * mtompset leaves to deal with his prescription meds. "Woo hoo! Bulging ear drum."
04:44 mtj no probs :)
04:44 mtj and, that 3.09 koha is an unstable/dev version too, so focus on testing on a stable 3.8.x version
04:43 mmm123 really appreciate taking the time to help me look at this! :D
04:43 mmm123 I saved some of this info and I will try to email them tonight. See if anybody has any suggestions.
04:42 mtj perhaps send an email to the koha mailing-list? see if some other folks have bumped into it?
04:41 mmm123 hahaha
04:41 mtj its basically always broken :p
04:41 mtj i may have deleted some items , previously… (its my dev/test system)
04:41 mmm123 I noticed that our errors looked diff as well. Mine complains about branch_code
04:40 mtj my error is bitching about 'item_number'
04:40 mtj aah, my error is diff. to yours too
04:39 mtj might be worth taking a screenshot at logging it, with the error-msgs
04:39 mmm123 I noticed that b/c I was searching frantically early today
04:38 mtj yeah … there's no bug listed for it in bugzilla , too
04:36 mmm123 hmmmmmmm. That is very interesting!
04:34 mtj manage-marc-import.pl: create_labelbatch_from_importbatch() : Error attempting to add item #38 of import batch #1 to label batch. at /home/mason/git/head/tools/manage-marc-import.pl line 202., referer: http://head.kohaaloha.com:8080/cgi-bin/koha/tools/manage-marc-import.pl
04:34 mtj manage-marc-import.pl: Database returned the following error on attempted INSERT: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha`.`creator_batches`, CONSTRAINT `creator_batches_ibfk_3` FOREIGN KEY (`item_number`) REFERENCES `items` (`itemnumber`) ON DELETE CASCADE) at /home/mason/git/head/C4/Creators/Batch.pm line 72., referer: http://head.kohaaloha.com:8080/cgi-bin/koha/tools/manage-marc-import.pl
04:33 Waylon was even able to use links to install koha, and because i was using terminatorX, both servers installed things at same time.
04:33 mtj mmm123 , hmm, i get the same error too :/
04:32 Waylon koha master installed, on both servers. Loving TerminatorX
04:32 Waylon okay, done for day.
04:30 mmm123 I think you were actually really helpful! Appreciate you.
04:30 mtj i dont use the label-creator stuff at all, so im not much help there, sorry :/
04:28 mtj find a teeny-weeny test.mrc record, and import it
04:28 mmm123 ummmmmm....scary? I will try.
04:28 mtj :p
04:28 mtj yessss, youuu
04:28 mmm123 :s mini-me????
04:27 mtj and, no problem... :)
04:27 mtj you dont need to ask them, just do it yourself - its easy :)
04:27 mmm123 I guess I'll have to let one of the librarians do that and I will check back if that doesn't produce any positive results. Thank you so much for your help.. :)
04:25 mtj hmm, why dont you have a go 1st :)
04:24 mtj no, i dont think
04:24 mmm123 I'm sorry, but could you also assist me with the staged-import? :/
04:22 mmm123 while mine was set for 2013
04:22 mmm123 do you think the Expiration date on the patron could have an effect? I have noticed that hers was set at 8/31/2012
04:21 mtj same thing?
04:21 mtj ok…. try a new staged-import?
04:14 mmm123 they look the same.
04:14 mmm123 at first glance
04:14 mmm123 I am comparing mine to the other person's who had the issue
04:13 cait hi mtj :)
04:13 mtj heya cait ;)
04:12 mtj library(branchname) is above username , password on the right :)
04:10 mtj type in the users name, click on the user...
04:10 mtj in the staff-ui, click on patrons… up the top-left
04:08 mmm123 can you direct me to the page where I can check the branch setting for another user?
04:07 mmm123 hmmmm. I think it worked once I logged in with my own account in the prod
04:07 mtj yow, i think thats an unstable dev version?
04:06 mmm123 3.09.00.013
04:05 mmm123 3.09
04:05 mmm123 let me see if i can verify that.
04:05 mtj hmm, what koha version?
04:05 mtj (that might cause problems)
04:05 mtj ie: do you have you current user set to a non-exisient branch?
04:04 mtj sane == existing
04:04 mmm123 yes, it does it on both prod and dev
04:04 mmm123 i am sorry, I am very new to Koha. Could you please explain the sane branch part?
04:04 mtj does it do it on your prod/stable system?
04:03 mtj try setting the user to a sane branch?
04:02 mmm123 it was tried under a different user when one of the librarians worked on it
04:02 mtj ie: make a new user, give it perms, log in with the new user...
04:01 mtj yep, try a diff. user
04:01 mtj and , i guess you are running a git install too...
04:01 mmm123 yes
04:00 mtj are us logged in as the kohaadmin user?
03:59 mmm123 manage-marc-import.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha`.`creator_batches`, CONSTRAINT `creator_batches_ibfk_2` FOREIGN KEY (`branch_code`) REFERENCES `branches` (`branchcode`) ON DELETE CASCADE) at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Creators/Batch.pm line 70, <DATA> line 522., referer: http://catalog
03:59 mmm123 and here is what i found
03:59 mmm123 i did look in the log
03:58 mtj mmm123, did you ask you system administrator to check the log for more details ?
03:48 mmm123 can someone help me, please?
03:47 mmm123 with the branch_code
03:47 mmm123 it seems to be related to foreign key constraints
03:47 mmm123 i did check the log
03:47 mmm123 it gives error: Error attempting to create label batch. Please ask your system administrator to check the log for more details.
03:46 mmm123 under Manage Staged MARC records
03:46 mmm123 am having a problem with "create label batch"
03:45 wahanui bonjour, mmm123
03:45 mmm123 hello
03:36 Waylon must install Class::MOP::Class
03:36 Waylon ahh
03:31 Waylon anyone know why this is?
03:30 Waylon crap
03:30 Waylon t/CHIDriverTests-libmemcached.t .. Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/perl5/Class/MOP/Class.pm line 785.
03:30 Waylon No subtests run
03:30 Waylon t/CHIDriverTests-Fast.t .......... Dubious, test returned 9 (wstat 2304, 0x900)
03:30 Waylon CHI-Driver-Memcached-0.14.tar.gz install fail.
02:31 mtj md-pdf1, md-pdf2, md-pdf3, thats my method for local branch naming
02:29 mtj nocase-hyphens i prefer, do
02:28 mtj Amen_Brother!
02:22 mtompset mixed case is a pain to type. Just my opinion. :)
02:16 Waylon Mdmah_PDFdlable
02:15 Waylon mdmah_pdfdlable i think.
02:14 Waylon but, i think its the first mod i need to ensure works, and it should be easy to do.
02:13 * Waylon nods. "By looks of things, that feature may be unuseful for committing back to 3.10... hmm.
02:11 mtompset I'm pretty sure it is the same in 3.8.x :)
02:11 mtompset I know that is 3.6.x
02:10 Waylon any feature naming convention?
02:09 Waylon yeah.. i think i can work it out.
02:09 Waylon right... template thing then, mandumah just wants the PDF icon, and it linked to a download page, no link showing.
02:07 rangi no changes there, and its showing 856u (thats 3.6.x btw)
02:06 rangi https://library.plantandfood.co.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&op=and&idx=kw&limit=mc-itype%2Cphr%3AEJOU&sort_by=relevance&do=Search
02:06 rangi just turn on xslt
02:06 rangi you shouldnt need to change anything
02:05 Waylon hmmm..... is the showing "yes, a 856u exists for this record" in search results, a xslt thing?
02:04 Waylon thanks rangi
02:03 * rangi goes back to work
02:03 rangi yep you can merge tags, i do it all the time, and yes forward porting is way harder than backporting
02:03 Waylon taht is.. all i need is an indication that a 856u exists via a ahref with an image, that takes one to a download page.
02:02 Waylon hmmm.. so by default, a 856u does not get shown in search results, thats a mod i'll have to make?
01:53 mtompset The first link.
01:53 mtompset [off] https://library.teamwork-asia.net/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=Ibatan+dictionary&limit=
01:51 Waylon right.. in the search results, does it tell you that a pdf is on record?
01:51 mtompset You don't see the link until you view details.
01:50 mtompset right click and download/save as.
01:50 Waylon right, which can be hidden, in a search, but shown as being downloadable?
01:50 mtompset you click it and get the PDF.
01:50 mtompset It's just a hyperlink.
01:49 Waylon it is 856u right, that makes a download button appear?
01:49 mtompset 856$u is settable.
01:49 mtompset Yes, Koha supports that.
01:49 Waylon ?
01:49 Waylon as in... 856u, i think, for url, to download button/
01:49 mtompset You can nicely link to external PDF sources.
01:48 mtompset downloading?
01:48 Waylon okay, what support does koha master have for downloading pdf files?
01:48 * mtompset grumbles, "'Processing triggers for man-db ...' -- that should be 'Taking forever, go have a nap ...'"
01:47 mtompset Bye, mtj.
01:47 Waylon laters
01:47 mtj ok im off, bbiab....
01:46 Waylon which is what they use.
01:46 mtj all good, thanks for the help
01:46 Waylon at least the intranet is.
01:46 Waylon so .. its working now.
01:46 mtj ok, thats… great :/
01:46 Waylon and forgot to back up the original.
01:46 Waylon mtj, no idea .... seems like someone came along and edited a config file yeah.
01:46 mtj i assume someone edited the koha.conf config file? yeah?
01:45 Waylon not with the security issues plesk has had recently.
01:45 mtj Waylon, so any idea why is stopped running?
01:45 mtompset Waylon: jcamins and others helped a university get theirs working on Plesk (DO NOT USE PLESK!)
01:45 Waylon but i wouldn't dare try running 3.anything on shared hosting, too many dependancies.
01:44 * Waylon did that once, to prove a point.
01:44 Waylon runs well... but it is 2.2.8... which runs on anything. even a shared website hosting.
01:44 * mtompset cries, "The horror. The horror."
01:44 mtj did the koha *ever* run on the xp-box?
01:44 Waylon yea, mtj, it runs.
01:43 mtj Waylon so, did the koha *ever* run on the xp-box?
01:43 Waylon mtj has to upgrade a koha 2.2.8 fully functional, unmodded library to current, along with intergrate the data into another koha database.
01:43 mtompset Under windows?
01:43 Waylon im doing koha 3.0.0pre2.. to current.
01:42 Waylon no no.
01:42 Waylon enjoy mtj.
01:42 mtompset you serious?! You have patches against code under Windows?!
01:42 Waylon not my worry right now, its mtj's.
01:42 Waylon on windows XP!
01:42 mtompset No, your situation is MUCH more painful and annoying.
01:41 Waylon ah? try dealing with koha 2.2.8, mtompset
01:41 * mtompset grumbles that installing koha-common is as annoying as doing a build. ;)
01:41 Waylon or that is.. actually point them somewhere.. in /etc/koha.conf, intrahtdocs wasn't even specified.
01:40 Waylon ah? after, all i did was point the config paths to a directory that actually had the template files in them.
01:39 mtj or after?
01:39 mtj did you send me a dump, before you fixed it?
01:38 Waylon man, its a mess.
01:38 Waylon ah you mean from pnts, yea.
01:35 mtj Waylon, thanks for the mysq.sql.gz , too :)
01:34 mtj ah, yes - against a moving master, thats true
01:33 jcamins_away mtj: integration branch is on 3.10.x, so by the time the last feature is finished, there might be.
01:33 mtj … as your feature-branch was 'branched' from master, anyhoo...
01:33 mtompset Greetings, mtj.
01:32 mtj and there shouldnt be conflicts, in your example too
01:32 jcamins_away Right. *Then* you copy it.
01:32 Waylon just copy it over to its new home?
01:32 Waylon and when mandumah branch is ready for production, what then?
01:31 jcamins_away Exactly.
01:31 Waylon so.. mod on feature branch, git commit, git branch to mandumah, cherrypick, git commit after fixing conflicts, then new feature branch?
01:31 jcamins It's late here.
01:31 * jcamins has to leave.
01:31 jcamins The cherry-pick does the commit for the integration branch (and if there's a conflict you need to resolve, it'll give you instructions for how to deal with that).
01:30 jcamins So you commit the changes to the branch they belong on.
01:30 Waylon or after finishing the new feature in mandumah_integration, do i git commit to it?
01:30 jcamins It will refuse.
01:30 jcamins You can't switch branches when you have uncommitted changes.
01:29 Waylon hmm... every branch in git, is like a seperate directory? so when i switch branches, no changes to any other branch occurs, all previous uncommited changes, stay?
01:28 jcamins Yes.
01:28 mtompset It'll make sense with more use.
01:28 jcamins I know it's good, because it's the reading list I used to learn git, and I grok git now. :)
01:27 mtompset Don't worry... git is confusing.
01:27 jcamins ^^ there's a good reading list on there.
01:27 wahanui rumour has it git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
01:27 jcamins git?
01:27 * Waylon doesn't get it.
01:27 jcamins It's saved the moment you do the cherry-pick.
01:26 mtompset That's the point of the cherry-pick.
01:26 Waylon so how does one save your new 3.10?
01:26 jcamins You can't develop in more than one repo without going mad.
01:26 jcamins Exactly.
01:26 Waylon or you constantly going backwards and forwards inside the same directory?
01:26 jcamins You already have the changes.
01:26 jcamins No.
01:26 mtompset (thinking out loud)
01:26 mtompset No? Why?
01:25 Waylon and then copy the resulting changes to 3.10, to a new directory?
01:25 jcamins You're done.
01:25 jcamins Fix any conflicts.
01:25 jcamins Then you cherry-pick your features from your feature branch: git cherry-pick {COMMIT_ID}
01:24 jcamins So you check out an integration branch based on 3.10: git checkout -b mamduha_integration origin/3.10.x
01:24 Waylon hmm... what feature do i want to port first... -sighs-
01:23 jcamins Then, you want to backport.
01:23 jcamins So, you've developed xyz.
01:23 jcamins Actually, rebase is for putting your code on top of the current tip.
01:23 Waylon merging code with the current tip.
01:23 jcamins After you check out the new branch, you run: git branch -d my384
01:22 mtompset refresh my memory... what is git/rebase?
01:22 jcamins Every so often, maybe you even rebase: git rebase origin/master
01:22 jcamins You develop.
01:22 Waylon okay, how do i delete the branch i creatred already?
01:22 jcamins You now have a new branch just for developing feature xyz.
01:22 jcamins You check out a branch based on master for developing feature xyz: git checkout -b xyz origin/master
01:21 Waylon git reset --hard origin/master to get back to master?
01:21 jcamins So, feature xyz.
01:21 jcamins Remember, we were just trying to reset it.
01:21 mtompset true.
01:21 jcamins mtompset: no, we already have a perfectly serviceable kohaclone.
01:21 jcamins Step one: check out feature branch. Let's say you're developing a feature you call xyz.
01:21 mtompset no?
01:21 jcamins No.
01:21 mtompset branch your development.
01:20 mtompset git clone the master.
01:20 Waylon hrm?
01:20 jcamins No, that's much more complicated than it needs to be.
01:20 mtompset Doesn't sound quite right.
01:19 Waylon okay. so, first, i reset my clone to master, do the devel work on at least one feature to get it done, then git co 3.10 into a fresh directory, backport changes to it, and repeat?
01:19 jcamins So rather than planning out backporting now, you wait until you have something, then decide whether you backport one at a time (which makes sense if you need a semi-production server right away) or wait until the end, so as to minimize the need for resolving conflicts.
01:19 mtompset Ah, so he would have to backport. Okay. Nevermind. :)
01:18 Waylon right.
01:18 jcamins mtompset: well, features aren't eligible for inclusion in stable branches.
01:18 jcamins The first features will have been developed against the 3.10 code, basically.
01:18 mtompset Because if they take you 3-4 months, then perhaps a backport isn't necessary? And you can get the changes into 3.10.x, and jump to that in production?
01:18 jcamins If it's going to take three months to make the changes, backporting to 3.10 is going to be pretty easy, really.
01:18 Waylon ah.. put off that decision until later?
01:17 Waylon haven't read through much of the current koha code.
01:17 jcamins Once that's done, I'd decide whether I wanted to port it back right away, or wait.
01:17 jcamins What I would do, I'd start with one.
01:17 Waylon no idea.
01:17 mtompset How long do you think these mods will take?
01:17 jcamins That's up to you.
01:16 Waylon yes think, devel against master first, then when everythings reimplemented, port back? or should i port back after each mod done?
01:16 wahanui it has been said that git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
01:16 mtompset git?
01:16 jcamins You develop in a separate branch.
01:16 jcamins What you are going to do is just develop against master first.
01:16 mtompset I mean will be.
01:15 mtompset 3.10 is released November 22.
01:13 Waylon ?
01:13 Waylon .... jcamins, ack.. should i just start again with master, then copy to kohastable directory, git checkout to 3.10/
01:12 Waylon anyway.
01:11 Waylon think something you want to beat up?
01:11 mtompset What are brandcuffs?
01:11 mtompset brandcuffs?
01:11 wahanui liblime is no brandcuffs
01:11 Waylon liblime?
01:10 wahanui it has been said that jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins or a very naughty wahanui teacher
01:10 mtompset jcamins?
01:10 wahanui Waylon: tell wahanui's bosses that the performance issue is because of the version, and there's no way to improve it unless they shell out to get the local modifications integrated.
01:10 Waylon Waylon?
01:10 Waylon and for some reason, i think jcamins is that bot, all the time.
01:10 mtompset Well it was only once or twice a couple months back.
01:09 * Waylon can't remember you sadly, mtompset
01:09 mtompset By the way, it's nice to see you again, Waylon.
01:08 mtompset Sleep is irrelevant. ;)
01:08 Waylon thats crazy talk.
01:08 Waylon haha! i am not going to get these 16 mods done in 9 days.
01:07 mtompset too late? He has 9 days, doesn't he?
01:07 Waylon or a new git clone then checkout branch down?
01:07 Waylon okay.. so.. a simple copy of the master, to kohastable, then branch to 3.10?
01:06 Waylon yeah.
01:06 jcamins Ah, got it. That makes a certain amount of sense. Once you've done the major developments, you probably don't need such a hefty server for development.
01:05 Waylon and im hoping the funds from that can go to a new dev box.
01:05 Waylon but once reimplementation is finished, the current production will be moved to this box, and decommissioned.
01:05 jcamins Well, that's better, anyway. :)
01:04 Waylon well.. tis not current production.
01:04 jcamins (aside: this seems like a bad idea)
01:04 Waylon sadly, yes.
01:04 jcamins I didn't realize you were doing development on your production machine.
01:03 jcamins Then yes.
01:03 jcamins Oh.
01:03 jcamins (^^ huge money saver)
01:03 Waylon hmm? i mean, i need to set up this box with both master and stable, stable being configured for normal use, master being used in subdomain. Currently, this is the devel box, but once the reimplementation is done, its the production.
01:03 jcamins That way, as you finish each feature, you can submit it, and maybe even get it into Koha before you've finished the next.
01:03 jcamins Best is to develop each feature on a separate branch, then merge them all together into one integration branch.
01:02 jcamins And you have branches where you do development, then you backport the developments to stable.
01:01 jcamins You have kohaclone with your repo.
01:01 jcamins No.
01:01 Waylon okay... so i need two directories then, kohadev and kohastable?
01:01 jcamins I try to avoid testing the first part of that rule of thumb for obvious reasons.
01:00 jcamins Oh yes.
01:00 Waylon right, so its better, developing on master, and porting back to a stable branch, than it is developing on stable, and porting forward to master?
01:00 jcamins Basically he has to decide whether he'd rather fork Koha (at the expense of future developments by people other than you) to save some money now, or do it right, to save money down the road.
00:59 jcamins Porting a feature backwards one or two branches will take a tenth of that time.
00:59 jcamins My rule of thumb is that porting a feature forward more than one stable branch will take just as much time as rewriting it from scratch. Porting a feature forward one branch will take half that time.
00:59 Waylon what im asking is, is it going to be worth it, worth my boss paying for it?
00:58 jcamins Oh, good.
00:58 Waylon haven't started yet.
00:58 jcamins How much time has it taken for you to develop against 3.8.4?
00:58 Waylon wondering how much time this will cost.. all this porting around.
00:58 jcamins And submit patches early and often, so you don't have to do any further work to get the changes into 3.12.
00:57 jcamins ^^ that's what you should do.
00:57 Waylon or should i just devel on master, backport to 3.10?
00:57 jcamins It's better than developing against 3.8, anyway.
00:57 jcamins Well, you are de facto developing against 3.10 during feature freeze.
00:56 Waylon no.. not for getting code into it, for developing against it.
00:56 jcamins I use 3.6.
00:56 jcamins If you're asking how stable it's going to be, I don't know.
00:56 jcamins You're too late for getting code into 3.10, if that's what you mean.
00:56 Waylon hmm. what of 3.10?
00:55 jcamins I wouldn't use master in production.
00:55 jcamins I had previously developed an alternate implementation against 3.5 (development version of 3.6). I threw that out in its entirety because I would've had to rewrite it from scratch for it to be usable.
00:55 Waylon in general, how stable is the master anyway? with all the git hygene, critical and showstoppers should seldom occur? mandumah only uses membership,cataloguing, catalogue, branches, sysprefs, marc frameworks and tools/log, anyway.. its not an actual physical library,no issues/returns/accquisitions occur.
00:54 jcamins I backported it to 3.6.x without too much misery.
00:53 jcamins That was developed for 3.8.x.
00:53 jcamins I needed local cover images for production.
00:53 jcamins Here's an example of a workflow.
00:52 jcamins Because otherwise you end up with a fork that has to be reconciled from scratch again.
00:51 jcamins Of course, I backport only a limited amount.
00:51 jcamins Only if I specifically want that feature.
00:51 jcamins If your work depends on a feature in 3.10, you're going to need that in 3.8 regardless.
00:51 Waylon right. but do you find yourself having to backport features that others have made, to the backport target?
00:50 jcamins If you develop on 3.8.x, by the time you're ready to forward port to 3.12 or 3.14, none of your assumptions will be valid.
00:50 jcamins I find developing on master and backporting easier because I know what the situation is with *both* branches I'm interested in.
00:49 jcamins Waylon: you're going to have to do the exact same thing in reverse.
00:48 Waylon hmm? what if the master includes features that only exist in master, that i use to base my mods off, backporting breaks the mods, can't very well backport the features too, that sounds too difficult.
00:48 * jcamins defers on all things development process to rangi.
00:47 jcamins rangi: would you agree?
00:47 jcamins At least, that was my experience.
00:47 jcamins Forward porting from 3.8.x to master (soon to be the development version for 3.12) tends to be more difficult.
00:47 jcamins It's easy to backport to 3.8.x.
00:47 jcamins Then you might want to seriously consider developing against master.
00:46 Waylon no, intend to opensource it.
00:46 Waylon most ofthe mods ive done... a few i didnt.
00:46 jcamins Is the plan to keep this a closed-source fork? Because you're just going to end up stuck on 3.8 after it's EOLed if you are developing against 3.8.x.
00:46 Waylon got a long list of .. 16 odd mods that the company i do work for, relies on.
00:45 jcamins That's a good idea.
00:45 jcamins Right.
00:45 Waylon port = totally reimplement.
00:45 Waylon well, im currently using git, because thats correct method to track devel. im currently setting up, to port my changes to 3.0.0pre2, to a stable 3.8.4
00:45 jcamins If you can do that, you could check out the tag on a branch, then just merge in the 3.8.5 tag, etc.
00:44 jcamins That just occurred to me.
00:44 jcamins rangi: can you merge in tags, too?
00:44 jcamins My rule of thumb is that git is not for production, and if you're using git, you should probably be using a branch and not a tag because clearly you're trying to track something.
00:43 jcamins You might check with rangi about that, though.
00:43 Waylon hmmmmmm.
00:43 jcamins Waylon: I would think.
00:43 Waylon for production/
00:43 jcamins Then if you choose to update, you can just merge in 3.8.x.
00:43 Waylon hmm? latest 3.8, is stable enough?
00:42 jcamins git checkout -b my3.8.x origin/3.8.x
00:42 jcamins Waylon: I would check out the branch.
00:42 Waylon or has that changed?
00:41 Waylon hmm? most stable currently?
00:41 jcamins Waylon: why are you branching off of version 3.8.4?
00:26 Waylon yay!
00:26 Waylon okay, yes, looks like i got it.
00:26 Waylon yup
00:26 mtompset cat kohaversion.pl?
00:26 Waylon okay, how do i doublecheck that i infact have 3.08.04?
00:24 wajasu git checkout -b my384 v3.08.04 should work
00:23 wajasu man git-branch there are examples that show how to branch from a known tag
00:22 Waylon just git reset --hard origin/v3.08.04?
00:22 wajasu or branch from a tag
00:22 Waylon how does one reset to a tag?
00:22 wajasu git tag --list to see
00:22 mtompset Why not use the tag? v3.08.04 (I think)?
00:21 Waylon its origin/3.8.4?
00:21 Waylon seems rebase not required.. adn yes... 3.8.4
00:21 mtompset You mean 3.8.4, right? Sorry, I don't know the answer to your question.
00:19 * Waylon forgot.
00:19 Waylon needing to redo install of koha 2.8.4 from git. i need to rebase to it, then hard reset, right?
00:18 Waylon hello all
00:09 rangi cya
00:09 drojf good night :)
00:09 wahanui drojf: Complete Transient Lockout
00:09 drojf excuse
00:09 drojf gotta go to bed because
00:05 jcamins lol
00:05 drojf "why are you late for work?" -- "my alarm clock divided by zero and imploded"
00:04 drojf haha i can use that everywhere
00:04 wahanui drojf: divide-by-zero error
00:04 drojf excuse
00:04 drojf i think i meant openpgp in general. magical encryption things. and george torwell!
00:02 drojf jcamins: use gnupg! ;)
00:02 jcamins drojf: stop that!
00:02 drojf lol
00:01 jcamins lol
00:01 wahanui jcamins: Your mail is being routed through Germany ... and they're censoring us.
00:01 jcamins excuse!
00:01 wahanui jcamins: SCSI Chain overterminated
00:01 jcamins excuse!
00:01 jcamins lol
00:01 wahanui jcamins: Your Pentium has a heating problem - try cooling it with ice cold water.(Do not turn off your computer, you do not want to cool down the Pentium Chip while he isn't working, do you?)
00:01 jcamins excuse!
00:01 drojf can i add excuses too? it needs "my bot ate it" ;)
00:00 wahanui drojf: Software uses US measurements, but the OS is in metric...
00:00 drojf excuse
00:00 wahanui drojf: backup tape overwritten with copy of system manager's favourite CD
00:00 drojf excuse