Time  Nick         Message
22:52 mtj          doublefail, both patent and legal systems
22:47 mtj          interesting apple/samsung discussion -> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120828225612963
21:37 jcamins      Didn't you make cole slaw for a picnic?
21:37 cait         picnic?
21:29 jcamins      How was the picnic?
21:29 * cait       waves
21:25 drojf        good night
20:21 jcamins      lol
20:20 drojf        what is it with people running off after i write to them? maybe i should take a bath
20:19 oleonard     Bye #koha
20:19 drojf        oleonard: "3 Share private lists with another patron (as described before). Can be turned on/off with a preference." sounds like you should be able to change the behaviour somewhere
20:19 * oleonard   must leave
20:19 jcamins      I just want to install it because I like their QueryParser.
20:19 jcamins      oleonard: heck no.
20:17 oleonard     Are you getting into the Evergreen biz jcamins?
20:17 jcamins      I have to say- I prefer the Koha installation procedure to the Evergreen installation procedure.
20:17 drojf        depends on the perspective i guess
20:16 slef         improved, huh?
20:16 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7310 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves)
20:16 oleonard     git bisect blames Bug 7310
20:15 slef         that doesn't usually happen
20:14 slef         hrmph
20:14 slef         ERROR 1044 (42000) at line 4: Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' to database 'koha_main'
20:06 drojf        oleonard: looks very secret to me
20:05 oleonard     A "private" list I created in the ByWater demo: http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-shelves.pl?viewshelf=29&sortfield=
20:04 slef         (ot:paralympics) ah but all except the 60 minutes highlights show a week after the event are on cable. Well that sucks.
20:00 slef         oleonard: o_O
19:59 oleonard     >:(
19:59 oleonard     Oh nice, private shelves are no longer private in 3.8.x
19:59 slef         ok, so our presenters exaggerated or I misheard
19:58 oleonard     "U.S. audiences must contend with 5 1/2 hours of programming — some of which will air only after the 11-day competition in London has concluded on Sept. 9."
19:58 oleonard     http://news.yahoo.com/full-tv-coverage-paralympics-just-not-us-155847948--finance.html
19:57 slef         is it right that there's no tv coverage of the paralympics in the US?
19:50 slef         I want a quiet life ;)
19:49 drojf        you'll never know if you don't try ;)
19:48 slef         drojf: they're not. Only just persuaded them off 3.0... I think head might be a bit of a shock
19:48 drojf        or your client is
19:48 drojf        slef: no, you don't want that on a production system unless you are very adventurous :)
19:46 drojf        the wiki? have done that before
19:46 * slef       backs stuff out
19:46 slef         which I don't want on a production system, do I?
19:46 slef         bah, it's late and I was blindly following someone else's notes which said squeeze-dev
19:46 drojf        i think so
19:46 jcamins      Yes.
19:46 slef         hang on... is squeeze-dev head and squeeze 3.8.x?
19:45 drojf        well, i tried ;)
19:45 slef         heh
19:45 oleonard     Oooh burn.
19:44 drojf        hi nengard, got a minute? documentation question
19:43 drojf        you have to have dreams in life!
19:42 * oleonard   plans to be the last man on Earth still using RSS
19:42 drojf        :)
19:42 oleonard     It is, if you take the time to do it :)
19:41 drojf        "This sounded like a pretty easy enhancement to develop." … 2008-03-04
19:35 oleonard     Hm, but Koha would still ask that the user be logged in without some rewriting...
19:34 oleonard     I've seen some sites offer "private" RSS feeds, which are merely feeds with long obscure URLs
19:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1917 enhancement, P3, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add RSS Feeds for Lists
19:34 oleonard     I'm working, why not, on Bug 1917, and thinking about RSS feeds for private lists. A good idea?
19:25 oleonard     Hi wizzyrea
19:21 * wizzyrea   waves
18:58 oleonard     You're right jcamins, I just hadn't found it yet.
18:55 jcamins      oleonard: missing an [% END %]
18:55 * oleonard   wonders what might be causing this template error: "unexpected end of input at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 128."
18:51 * oleonard   encourages wajasu to create an entry on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
18:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8607 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , overdue_notices is broken
18:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
18:47 wajasu       hopes that bug 8378 is signed off so that bug 8607 works with <fine> as well
18:32 jcamins      drojf: I suspect not.
18:30 drojf        in the manual, is the example for a matching rule correct? it has tag '001', subfield 'a' set to match control number, but the control fields don't have subfields AFAIK http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/catadmin.html#recordmatchingrules
18:25 drojf        ok that is not too long anymore
18:24 slef         drojf: maybe less than a week to go
18:24 slef         drojf: yep
18:24 drojf        slef: still on mobile internet?
18:22 slef         it's logged me out AGAIN
18:22 slef         oh
18:22 slef         What the heck, wiki???
18:22 slef         You must confirm your e-mail address before editing pages. Please set and validate your e-mail address through your user preferences.
18:22 slef         "    The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Users.
17:42 * oleonard   enthusiastically votes for whatever is in the majority!
17:39 gmcharlt     we have achieved unanimity! ;)
17:35 jcamins      +1
17:35 gmcharlt     i.e., automatically truncated left-anchored phrase searches?
17:35 gmcharlt     quick poll - what would folks think of having call number searches (under staff and opac advanced search) default to callnum,phr,rt ?
17:03 * oleonard   falls under the can't-connect-to-git cloud again
16:59 huginn       oleonard: The operation succeeded.
16:59 oleonard     @later tell mbalmer You can find the Koha logo in various formats in misc/interface_customization
16:57 oleonard     It's in misc/interface_customization
16:56 oleonard     Did mbalmer ever find the Koha logo he was looking for?
16:50 * oleonard   waves from southeast Ohio
16:47 * jcamins    waves from New York City.
16:45 * druthb     waves from eastern Kansas
16:45 druthb       Hi there!  :)
16:44 nengard      say hello :)
16:44 nengard      hello #koha - at training for a new koha library
16:33 druthb       yabetcha.
16:33 libsysguy    thanks druthb
16:28 druthb       amount is the original fine amount, and amountoutstanding is how much they owe.
16:27 libsysguy    in accountlines, what is the difference between amount and amountoutstanding?
16:05 Joubu        bye++
15:30 wahanui      privet, oleonard
15:30 oleonard     Hi
15:29 Brooke       hey Owen :)
15:09 reiveune     bye
15:08 Brooke       o/
14:57 mveron       Will do...
14:56 rambutan     Well, give yourself a raise! :)
14:55 mveron       rambutan: Not if you are your own boss :-)
14:54 rambutan     ah, isn't overtime pay great?
14:54 * mveron     faces an evening shift for some work that urgently has do be done...
14:52 mveron       jcamins: No... But it would be a nice idea... :-)
14:48 jcamins      mveron: I heard you don't bake cookies in your dishwasher!
14:26 jcamins      My guess (keeping in mind that I haven't had problems with X since xfree86 was current) is that either A) it's the graphics card driver, or B) the X autoconfig didn't run and you don't have any screens configured.
14:24 WaqarAzeem   thanks for the reply. yeah that's rigth not to install the UI. but its wired to find this.
14:22 jcamins      WaqarAzeem: that sounds like an X issue. Unfortunately, I don't know how you would fix it. As an aside, it's generally a better idea not to run a desktop environment on servers.
14:20 WaqarAzeem   Hello! i tried to install the gnome-desktop-environment on squeeze virtual appliance... after reboot got a blank screen. the error log shows: No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section"
13:33 tcohen       I had for 3.0.x
13:33 slef         there are three around - one on the wiki and two I can send but can't currently upload to the wiki because I'm mobile.
13:32 tcohen       i'll have to implement it !
13:32 jcamins      tcohen: there should be, though.
13:32 tcohen       oh my
13:32 jcamins      tcohen: I don't think there is.
13:32 jcamins      Right.
13:32 tcohen       a user is suspended by fines.pl, we'd like to be able to have a way of looking for suspensions on a user for a period of time?
13:32 slef         ah logos
13:31 slef         whowhat?
13:31 tcohen       is there a way we can have suspensions logged the same way fines are?
13:30 jcamins      Thanks.
13:30 Joubu        jcamins: I will propose a new patch
13:29 jcamins      slef might have a copy.
13:29 jcamins      No idea where to find it, though.
13:29 tcohen       hi #koha
13:28 jcamins      mtj made it.
13:28 * eythian    is off to a bbq
13:27 jcamins      I think it makes sense to keep the name as it is now.
13:27 mbalmer      np, tnx anyways
13:27 jcamins      mbalmer: I do not. Possibly the wiki.
13:27 * jcamins    has no idea where wahanui got that from.
13:26 Joubu        jcamins: ok but as I said, am123 is not a good name :)
13:26 jcamins      where?
13:26 wahanui      i heard jcamins was A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins
13:26 jcamins      jcamins?
13:26 jcamins      Joubu: they do different things in different ways, so I think it's not a problem.
13:26 wahanui      jcamins, is, like, there something identifiably unique about them
13:26 mbalmer      jcamins, do you know where?
13:26 kf           Joubu: if they work in different ways... I think it might not be a problem
13:25 Joubu        kf: ok if you think it's in used, we have to keep it. But is not too much to have 3 plugins for stocknumber?
13:25 jcamins      There's a PS somewhere.
13:25 drojf        bye kf
13:25 mbalmer      do we have a vectorized Koha logo around somewhere?  PDF or PS that is.
13:25 kf           bye all
13:25 kf           but I have to leave now :)
13:25 mbalmer      FOLKS!
13:24 jcamins      Hehe.
13:24 Joubu        jcamins: it's "préfixe" :)
13:24 kf           there are more countries using stocknumbers :)
13:24 * jcamins    doesn't know the French word for "prefix."
13:24 kf           Joubu: I think it is used
13:24 Joubu        no :) am= Aix Marseille 2 cities
13:23 Joubu        I agree with you, it is not userfriendly to remove an existing plugin.
13:23 jcamins      Oh, I thought that was "am" = French for "prefix" and "123" = example number.
13:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7992 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , new plugin about Automatic Number incrementing inventory. Prefix management from a authorised values list
13:23 Joubu        jcamins: hi :) For Bug 7992: In fact I think this plugin is not used. "am123" is the name of a BibLibre's customer.
13:22 Joubu        hi all
13:22 kf           byeall :)
13:21 * druthb     chucks skittles, not wood.
13:13 * eythian    : filling wahanui with useless factoids since 2010 or so
13:13 wahanui      okay, eythian.
13:13 eythian      no wahanui, woodchuck is how much wood would a jcamins chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood
13:12 wahanui      OK, eythian.
13:12 eythian      wahanui: woodchuck is how much would could a jcamins chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood
13:12 wahanui      eythian: i'm not following you...
13:12 eythian      wahanui: woodchuck
13:12 drojf        jcamins++ # one day i will find a question you cannot answer ;)
13:11 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6506 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , deleting patron history missing errors
13:11 eythian      ah, bug 6506
13:11 drojf        jcamins: okay, i will do that. thanks a lot
13:10 jcamins      Any other option is worse.
13:10 jcamins      Figure out which call numbers are duplicated, and don't fill in the barcode for *any* of the items with those call numbers.
13:10 kf           drojf: would leaving them empty be an option?
13:10 jcamins      Here's what you need to do:
13:09 jcamins      If it doesn't add the item, you won't have an item.
13:09 eythian      drojf: it's never worth overloading fields like that, someone always changes something that causes problems like this.
13:09 jcamins      If it blanks them, when someone tries to check out the second item that was imported, they'll end up with the wrong book on their record.
13:09 jcamins      There is a problem either way the stage import handles it.
13:08 jcamins      Now I understand.
13:08 jcamins      drojf: okay.
13:08 drojf        kf: yes
13:08 drojf        jcamins: because up until a few weeks ago, all call numbers were distinct, so the copy in the barcode field would have been too. that changed unfortunately, because somebody decided to have the same call number for several items
13:07 kf           jcamins: dealing with crazy data I guess
13:07 jcamins      Once we understand what drojf is doing. :)
13:07 jcamins      kf: I haven't tried in a long time, but I thought it added them anyway, wreaking havoc upon the poor unsuspecting catalog. Easy enough to test.
13:06 kf           and I think the duplicated didn't get added.. hm.
13:06 kf           we have "overwritten" items in the past where some items had been missing
13:06 jcamins      Why are you expecting duplicates?
13:06 jcamins      Then we get to the duplicate issue.
13:06 kf           but I thought it would just not import them at all
13:06 jcamins      drojf: okay, I am with you so far.
13:06 kf           that's possible
13:06 kf           that happens when you just read back...
13:06 jcamins      I think stage records has always handled it.
13:05 kf           oh,
13:05 jcamins      kf: that's for bulkmarcimport.
13:05 kf           but not sure in which version
13:05 kf           eythian developed it
13:05 kf           drojf: I think there is an importoption to deal with duplicate barcodes
13:04 drojf        because you need the barcode to check out stuff. it will take some time until everything has a real barcode
13:03 jcamins      Right.
13:03 drojf        you mean why the copy of call number to the barcode field?
13:03 drojf        sorry for confusing you :)
13:03 jcamins      Wait- why are you doing that?
13:02 jcamins      So what are the duplicate barcodes?
13:02 jcamins      Right.
13:02 drojf        the plan was to put the call number both into the call number and barcode fields when importing
13:01 drojf        what do you mean?
13:01 jcamins      So what are you importing?
13:01 * jcamins    scratches his head.
13:01 drojf        because we did not have barcodes in the old system. so we decided to use call number as barcode for import and then switch to real barcodes when it is imported. now that some call numbers got changed, some are ambigous
13:00 jcamins      But why do you have duplicate barcodes?
13:00 jcamins      Yes.
12:59 jcamins      Oh.
12:59 drojf        no i mean before i import the data, i could prepare the data with blank barcodes and that would be ok to import?
12:59 oleonard     Okay, meeting time. bbl.
12:59 jcamins      I haven't tried it, but I think it just blanks the barcodes silently.
12:59 jcamins      No, I don't think it gives you a choice.
12:58 drojf        oh that would be friendly :) so having blank barcodes would be an option if i know which items are problematic beforehand?
12:57 jcamins      drojf: blank the barcodes, I think.
12:56 drojf        what will koha do if i import records via "tools" and some have identical barcodes?
12:54 eythian      later
12:54 mtompset     Have a good day (24 hour period), everyone.
12:52 jcamins      True.
12:51 eythian      well, better still it delete the correct history.
12:51 jcamins      eythian: better it do nothing than erase all reading history everywhere.
12:51 * eythian    notes that "delete reading history" doesn't seem to work.
12:46 oleonard     Glad to hear it mtompset
12:44 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8350 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , Searching for a 10 or 13 digit string (with a number in it) that does not exist in one's catalog will fail to affect SQL statement correctly in C4::Breeding
12:44 mtompset     Thanks for the assignment, oleonard. I figured out a test plan for bug 8350, and jcamins was kind enough to sign it off.
12:43 mtompset     Greetings, oleonard.
12:38 kf           :)
12:38 kf           :
12:38 kf           hi oleonard
12:38 oleonard     Hi #koha
12:29 mtompset     But I'll look at that... tomorrow.
12:29 mtompset     which means there may be a tmpl_process3.pl bug.
12:27 mtompset     Actually, the funny thing is... I was looking at the .po file and the second error in my bug report was a result of what seemed like commented out rules.
12:12 kf           I hate it when things are trying to be smarter than I am - better leave it like this
12:11 mtompset     Aren't irc clients supposed to be smart enough to know what you meant? ;)
12:04 kf           yeah... I always do that
12:04 eythian      kf_mtg: your nick change didn't work
12:03 kf_mtg       ah, it went well :)
12:02 mtompset     how did the workshop go?
12:01 kf_mtg       but quite busy - leaving earlier today and was away for 2 days because of our koha workshop
12:01 kf_mtg       it's ok, I am back
12:01 * kf_mtg     nick kf
12:00 mtompset     Oh, your name was kf_mtg, I didn't want to disturb you, kf.
11:58 kf_mtg       since they changed the output of the script it got a bit hard to tell without -v
11:58 kf_mtg       those probably isn't
11:58 kf_mtg       some are fatal
11:58 kf_mtg       yeah, but they can be serious - it depends
11:58 jcamins      kf_mtg: oh, I didn't realize those error messages were ever a serious problem- I've seen them many times, and it installs just fine.
11:57 kf_mtg       jcamins: I didn't test it - sometimes you can, sometimes the parser gets too confused and dies
11:57 kf_mtg       but not for 3.8.2 probably
11:56 jcamins      You can install Spanish even with that.
11:56 kf_mtg       someone else seems to have
11:56 kf_mtg       oh i didn't fix it
11:55 kf_mtg       hm?
11:55 mtompset     Well, if you can't install spanish, it is. :P
11:54 jcamins      Yeah, that wasn't a real bug.
11:54 mtompset     So, I figured maybe she fixed it.
11:54 mtompset     Yes, but she commented on my bug report.
11:54 eythian      anyone can always add more translations
11:54 mtompset     So I'll have to ask kf later about it.
11:53 mtompset     This pootle thing looked possible. But I noticed kf seems to have touched spanish already.
11:53 mtompset     first two, can't solve.
11:52 mtompset     I was just running through my list of 25 bugs from the top.
11:52 mtompset     No, it came up... I blame my internet.
11:50 jcamins      I must have misspelled something.
11:49 jcamins      pootle is http://translate.koha-community.org/
11:49 wahanui      jcamins: I forgot pootle
11:49 jcamins      forget pootle
11:49 jcamins      It's up for me.
11:49 wahanui      i heard pootle was http://translate.koha-community.org/
11:49 mtompset     pootle?
11:49 mtompset     Ah... Well, pootle is down for me too.
11:48 jcamins      That's the software.
11:48 mtompset     Why is it called pootle?
11:48 jcamins      mtompset: 65-character wrapping is fine, too.
11:48 jcamins      pootle is http://translate.koha-community.org/
11:47 wahanui      jcamins: I forgot pootle
11:47 jcamins      forget pootle
11:47 wahanui      mtompset: sorry...
11:47 mtompset     wahanui, I wanted a URL.
11:47 wahanui      rumour has it pootle is down for me - can someone else check
11:47 mtompset     pootle?
11:47 mtompset     jcamins++
11:46 mtompset     (a) Yes, I figured that after the fact, (b) 65 all the way, baby ;), and (c) 1 d0n't L1k3 cR's. ;)
11:43 * jcamins    fixed it for this patch, just for the future.
11:42 jcamins      When writing patch messages, please be sure to A) put a brief -- ~50 character --  description on the first line, B) put an enlarged description manually wrapped at 72 characters starting on the third line, and C) use carriage returns.
11:38 mtompset     Thanks for testing it, jcamins.
11:35 jcamins      Looks good.
11:35 mtompset     One bad patch, and I get "if". :P
11:34 jcamins      If it works.
11:34 jcamins      I am doing so.
11:34 mtompset     I suppose you could sign one off and obsolete the rest. ;)
11:33 jcamins      However, it doesn't matter because there should only be one patch.
11:33 jcamins      Right, you forgot to label 3.6.x.
11:32 mtompset     Identical in content, but they were all done in the systems they are labeled. :P
11:32 jcamins      All identical. :)
11:32 mtompset     I've never attempted to apply a patch, so I wasn't sure how that works.
11:31 mtompset     3.6 has line shifts.
11:31 jcamins      Yup.
11:30 jcamins      Are all three patches identical?
11:29 jcamins      I need to prune some branches, I think.
11:29 jcamins      Hm.
11:28 mtompset     Thanks, jcamins.
11:28 jcamins      I will test your patch.
11:26 mtompset     okay, so I patch over-killed.
11:25 jcamins      Doesn't matter.
11:25 jcamins      git will handle line number changes, if the lines in that area are the same.
11:24 mtompset     oh... does it make sense that the C4::Breeding version is smaller in master than 3.8?
11:23 mtompset     well there were line number shifts between 3.6 and 3.8
11:22 jcamins      You should only attach separate patches if the patch for master won't apply to the previous branches.
11:22 mtompset     though the 3.8 and master patches are essentially identical.
11:21 mtompset     I even attached 3.6, 3.8, and master patches.
11:21 jcamins      Good.
11:21 mtompset     not to mention... the description is it.
11:20 mtompset     It's in the comments on the bug.
11:20 jcamins      mtompset: put the test plan on the bug.
11:16 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8350 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Searching for a 10 or 13 digit string (with a number in it) that does not exist in one's catalog will fail to affect SQL statement correctly in C4::Breeding
11:16 mtompset     bug 8350
11:16 mtompset     Okay... I've done that. I even figured out what to do to test it.
11:15 jcamins_away Sometimes a bug report is assigned to the wrong person.
11:15 jcamins_away Generally.
11:15 jcamins_away mtompset: write the patch.
11:15 mtompset     What does an "assignee" have to do for a bug report?
10:33 kf_mtg       eythian++
10:32 mtompset     you don't have synaptic installed on a server, ibeardslee . :)
09:17 ibeardslee   things like synaptic seem to be able to track that and completely remove more
09:16 eythian      oh, yeah. If it's already removed I suppose apt-get won't do anything.
09:15 mtompset     eythian++
09:15 mtompset     Seems I have to get lower "dpkg --purge", but thanks. :)
09:06 eythian      apt-get remove --purge
09:06 mtompset     So how do I toast the config files?
09:04 eythian      r=remove c=config files still around
09:01 mtompset     Does anyone know what "rc" means in the output of dpkg -l?
08:32 kf           hi eythian
08:32 eythian      hi kf
08:31 kf           good morning #koha
08:10 eythian      hallo
08:10 mtompset     Greetings, eythian.
07:55 mtompset     As far as I can tell, it won't affect my patch.
07:55 dcook        Good luck!
07:55 dcook        Anyway, I got to jet
07:54 dcook        And perhaps more local than the whole instance?
07:54 mtompset     Well, I'm going to ignore it.. and just generate a patch up. :)
07:53 dcook        In hindsight, it might be more complicated
07:53 dcook        Hmm, mine is the same
07:52 mtompset     I don't think my master is broken... but the version is 3.7 something vs. 3.8.x's 3.8 something.
07:52 dcook        And thanks for the cheers, but I'm defeated for the day. I'll have to try again on Monday ;)
07:51 dcook        I would think so yes
07:49 mtompset     Hmmm... shouldn't the C4::Breeding in 3.8.x have a LOWER version number than the C4::Breeding in master?
07:41 * mtompset   cheers on dcook in his coding quest.
07:36 * dcook      takes a look at Letters.pm and Members.pm
07:36 dcook        Although there are no warnings...just no content
07:36 dcook        Blah...looks like there are other things preventing 8033 from working
07:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8111 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Language chooser display problem in self-checkout
07:05 marcelr      bug 8111
07:02 dcook        Aha! Applying 8111 first helped resolve the conflict/lack of context
06:52 dcook        At least 3.8.0...
06:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8033 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Needs Signoff , add print receipt option to Koha self-check
06:52 dcook        Hmm, looks like bug 8033 has conflicts with 3.8 anyway...
06:47 dcook        Thanks anyways :)
06:47 dcook        Hmm, I suppose if this situation arose...I could do a diff and then make my own local follow-up for my git...hmm
06:46 mtompset     Sorry, I am not the guru on this.
06:46 dcook        In this scenario, they're not using follow-ups, but...maybe people do actually use follow-ups instead?
06:45 dcook        If I use git bz to apply a patch...and then that patch is re-submitted...would I have to revert that first patch before trying its replacement?
06:45 dcook        Quick question for git bz gurus...
06:42 wahanui      mtompset is trying to do a variety of projects in less than three months!
06:42 marcelr      and mtompset
06:42 mtompset     Greetings, marcelr
06:42 marcelr      hi mbalmer
06:41 mbalmer      good morning. mtompset, all
06:41 marcelr      hi koha
06:40 mtompset     greetings, mbalmer
06:40 mtompset     bonjour, reiveune
06:40 wahanui      hey, reiveune
06:40 reiveune     hello
06:32 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
06:32 mtompset     Finally! Got my headphone jack tweaked enough to work.
06:26 alex_a       bonjour !
06:03 Oak          okay :)
06:03 mtompset     Yes, I typed that, because acronyms suck. :)
06:02 mtompset     Be back in a bit.
06:02 mtompset     (in my timezone)
06:02 mtompset     It's 2pm.
06:02 Oak          ah
06:02 mtompset     Tired. A backup failed last night, and I got it redone before going to bed.
06:02 Oak          is not it morning?
06:02 mtompset     (need to reboot)
06:01 Oak          and how are you today mtompset ?
06:01 mtompset     I guess I'll be walkin' da plank. ;)
06:01 Oak          :)
06:01 mtompset     Okay, I missed it.
06:01 mtompset     Ah.
05:59 Oak          nah I did the pirate greeting this morning... then electricity went out, and when it came back, my IRC client auto connected...
05:57 mtompset     Oak: Last night/This morning... I believe it was bag and mtj doing pirate greetings. You're done with the pirate greetings? :)
05:56 mtompset     Greetings, Viktor.
05:55 cait         good morning Viktor :)
05:32 drojf        good morning #koha
05:28 Oak          hello :)
05:22 cait         hello
05:20 mtompset     Greetings, Oak and cait.
04:44 mtompset     Ah yes. template differences.
04:23 * dcook      facepalm
04:23 dcook        Mmm...forgot about the template differences
04:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8033 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Needs Signoff , add print receipt option to Koha self-check
04:22 dcook        Well, I am working atm ;). Looking at porting bug 8033 back to 3.2
04:20 mtompset     Cool. Don't want to distract you from studying. :)
04:19 dcook        Much rather be Kohaing than studying, but c'est la vie
04:18 * dcook      is at 1.5 days a week while he finishes off his degree.
04:18 dcook        Alas, I don't have much time these days, my good man, or I certainly would
04:17 mtompset     give this a whirl: cataloguing, cataloguing search: 9876543210, check the error logs.
04:17 dcook        Always a handy thing ;)
04:16 mtompset     I can now move forward with getting my patch processed.
04:16 dcook        Nice one, mtompset
04:13 mtompset     Woo hoo! I found the case that breaks it!
03:59 Oak          :)
03:56 dcook        Allo Oak :)
03:40 Oak          and crickets
03:40 Oak          Ahoy me hearties
02:39 * dcook      wonders where the best place to put series information would be in the search results
02:38 dcook        It appears that series title doesn't appear in the staff client search results, but series volume does...and it appears right after the title and before the author...
02:36 * dcook      glares at staff client search result formatting/punctuation
01:54 libsysguy    [off] rangi every time I see anything about New Zealand I think about you and catalyst http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/z09zm/the_new_zealand_government_is_currently_voting_on/
01:48 libsysguy    loui the way I started learning Koha was to think up a spall something I wanted to do and then try and do it
01:43 libsysguy    I'm just kidding, use whatever you're comfortable with
01:43 loui         ok tnx guys.
01:43 jcamins      virtualbox.org
01:43 jcamins      You can use VirtualBox to run a virtual machine with Debian.
01:43 libsysguy    :p
01:43 libsysguy    don't listen to these guys VI and VIM are evil
01:43 jcamins      You're going to need to set up a Linux system to do your development on.
01:43 * libsysguy  recommends emacs
01:42 jcamins      (if you prefer, you can use Emacs, or any other text editor, of course)
01:42 jcamins      loui: vim. I don't think IDEs work well with Perl.
01:42 loui         Guys any suggestion of Perl IDE for windows?
01:41 jcamins      Koha is great. :)
01:40 loui         jcamins you are right. I really need to learn Perl. My boss really likes Koha.
01:39 * jcamins    thinks this is a signal benefit of Perl over PHP.
01:39 jcamins      loui: Koha is written in Perl.
01:39 loui         anyone for perl vs php?;)
01:36 libsysguy    it was…enlightening
01:36 libsysguy    but I used to work at a library (academic)
01:36 libsysguy    i recently moved here
01:35 loui         libsysguy you are lucky.
01:35 libsysguy    jcamins don't encourage loui to make fun of me :p
01:35 loui         And these 2 books was never used. heh
01:35 jcamins      loui: libsysguy lives in a city with at least a half dozen libraries.
01:35 libsysguy    but not crusty
01:35 libsysguy    well perl is old anyway
01:34 loui         I am working in a library with 35 thousand collections with only 2 perl old books.:(
01:34 libsysguy    agreed
01:33 rangi        publishes are dicks and i dont want to encourage them :)
01:33 rangi        and donate to the other
01:33 libsysguy    if only these places could be not so exclusive
01:33 rangi        i get it from there
01:33 rangi        http://www.onyxneon.com/books/modern_perl/
01:32 jcamins      That'd be crazy.
01:32 jcamins      Naw.
01:32 rangi        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic_(programmer)
01:32 jcamins      Or even associated with every school.
01:32 libsysguy    so I think I am out of options
01:32 jcamins      Maybe there could be one in every community.
01:32 libsysguy    I couldn't get a library card
01:32 rangi        anything by chromatic is good
01:32 libsysguy    yeah idk where that would be
01:32 jcamins      If only there were a place from which you could borrow books for free.
01:32 rangi        it is
01:31 libsysguy    it better be good :p
01:31 libsysguy    ok rangi I bought that book
01:30 libsysguy    personal favorite
01:30 jcamins      A favorite. :)
01:30 jcamins      lol
01:30 rangi        http://xkcd.com/208/
01:30 loui         Ok its time to understand God. lol
01:30 jcamins      Koha isn't an acronym, so the only letter you need to capitalize is the 'K.'
01:30 jcamins      At least the trickster gods.
01:29 loui         Never used perl before. I just got interested when I tested KOHA.:D
01:29 libsysguy    :p
01:29 libsysguy    to know perl is to know the language of the programming gods
01:29 libsysguy    mmhmm
01:28 rangi        yes
01:28 loui         So I need to study perl to be able to modify Koha codes?:(
01:28 jcamins      Oh, Modern Perl isn't an OReilly book.
01:28 libsysguy    I really enjoyed it
01:28 libsysguy    hey I read that head first java book when I was in highschool
01:27 jcamins      [off] http://www.safaribooksonline.com/ <-- don't they offer every format ever?
01:27 libsysguy    ?
01:27 libsysguy    http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Perl-ebook/dp/B0057Z3QB8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1346289821&sr=8-2&keywords=modern+perl
01:27 jcamins      libsysguy: O'Reilly?
01:27 libsysguy    but its $5 on the kindle
01:26 libsysguy    dang it play store doesn't have it
01:25 wahanui      rumour has it modern perl is a good one too
01:25 rangi        modern perl
01:25 libsysguy    so I bought Perl Best Practices last week and have rather enjoyed reading it.  Does anybody have other reading suggestions?  I'm about to start working on a testing suite *hint* *hint*
01:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8621 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Template for sending out carts not formatting correctly
01:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8663 normal, P3, ---, pelletiermaxime, Pushed to Stable , Circulation rules hard due date calendar wrong format
01:23 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 8621: Alternative template for cart email
01:23 jenkins_koha * maxime.pelletier: Bug 8663 Fix the use of hardcoded date format for the calendar widget of hard due date
01:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #148: SUCCESS in 1 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/148/
01:22 * dcook      twitches
01:20 libsysguy    :p
01:20 libsysguy    sometimes I get a little nostalgic about the good ol' days of IE6
01:19 rangi        not anymore anyway
01:18 rangi        but really for koha, we dont need to
01:18 rangi        sometimes you have to .. depending if you have to support horrible old browsers
01:18 libsysguy    classy
01:18 libsysguy    indeed
01:18 jcamins      Good content on that website.
01:18 jcamins      lol
01:17 libsysguy    sometimes I cheat and use them for forms :-/
01:17 rangi        use tables for things that should be tabular, the end
01:17 rangi        *nod*
01:16 libsysguy    http://shouldiusetablesforlayout.com/
01:16 jcamins      That's why I wanted to sign off on the change from <table> to <div> for results.
01:16 libsysguy    also the refine your search options are nicely spaced and laid out
01:16 rangi        *nod*
01:16 libsysguy    it makes it feel more stream lined
01:16 rangi        yeah they look nice on the left
01:15 libsysguy    i like the cover images moved over
01:15 loui         yeah wow.. nice opac.
01:15 mtj          i like the red person, with a head made of books
01:14 dcook        Wow, that is a beauty
01:14 mtj          loui, and now you know where the logs are :)
01:14 loui         Thank you mtj.
01:14 loui         Sorry wasn't paying attention to previous messages.
01:13 mtj          http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-08-30#i_1062517
01:12 jcamins      loui: it was just posted a half hour ago by rangi.
01:12 loui         mtj kindly post his OPAC url here. tnx
01:11 mtj          wow, rennes is the best koha opac i've ever seen
00:58 rangi        :)
00:56 dcook        That's good to hear. I downloaded about 1200 emails, but it was a reasonable amount of work left in the end. Yay for filters.
00:54 rangi        not too bad, busy, but can't complain
00:53 dcook        How've the past few weeks gone?
00:53 dcook        Hey rangi. Vancouver is certainly growing on me again
00:52 dcook        Thanks, jcamins :)
00:52 jcamins      Welcome back to this side of the Pacific/Atlantic.
00:52 rangi        hows canada?
00:52 rangi        heya dcook
00:52 dcook        Morning #koha!
00:46 jcamins      Nice!
00:45 rangi        they really did a lovely job on the css there
00:42 rangi        purty!
00:42 rangi        http://catalogue.bu.univ-rennes2.fr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=fish&searchOn=OPAC
00:40 rangi        if its not free software, you are still not in control
00:40 rangi        apis too
00:40 rangi        it's also a case why open api's aren't enough
00:39 mtj          aah , i thought you meant twitter build their platform, on another proprietary platform
00:39 rangi        http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/technolog/whys-everybody-so-angry-about-twitter-should-you-care-965306
00:39 rangi        twitter
00:39 mtj          what was the platform?
00:38 rangi        they are a great case in point why building a business model on someone elses proprietary platform is a dumb move
00:38 rangi        probably twitter screwing with their api again
00:37 mtj          meh, im gonna give that birdy a rest ...
00:37 rangi        49!
00:31 rangi        hmm nope still reporting old already reported stuff
00:31 jcamins      mtj: not quite working there.
00:31 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Setting Default Values for Item Records in Koha 3.8 http://t.co/QE4lSBr6 #kohails"
00:31 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Setting Default Values for Item Records in Koha 3.8 http://t.co/PyNPcNrf"
00:31 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Koha Newsletter: Volume 3, Issue 8: August 2012 http://t.co/lK2IEZ0c"
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00:31 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Koha Newsletter: Volume 3, Issue 8: August 2012 http://t.co/ypampVuI"
00:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #148 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8596 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Reports interface date picker doesn't force ISO formatted dates
00:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8626 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Encoding problem with = in cart emails
00:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8596 - Reports interface date picker doesn't force ISO formatted dates
00:21 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 8626: Fix encoding in cart emails for use of quoted-printable
00:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #147: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/147/
00:19 rangi        *nod*
00:19 jcamins      I don't want to do anything too big with this because the feature currently works with UNIMARC, and the larger the change, the more likely it is to break that.
00:16 rangi        as a compromise
00:15 jcamins      *?
00:13 rangi        that works
00:13 jcamins      Okay, what about this compromise for 8523: start out with replicating the existing functionality for non-UNIMARC, with a follow-up patch adding a cron job to generate bidirectional links from unidirectional data.
00:10 Judit        i am
00:09 * jcamins    thinks everyone should be that excited about their time of day.
00:09 Judit        :D
00:09 jcamins      EVENING! :D
00:07 Judit        sorry
00:07 Judit        MORNING
00:06 rangi        mtj++ #writing tests