Time  Nick           Message
23:52 rangi          feel good friday
23:52 rangi          http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7538338/Samaritan-replaces-widowers-stolen-car
23:42 wajasu         since i know how it work right now.  it can.
23:41 rangi          if so, cool
23:41 rangi          oh you mean you could write the patch to do that?
23:41 rangi          in master or 3.8 ?
23:40 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7707 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Add fines placeholders in notices to display fine information on notices
23:40 wajasu         rangi: i could add a fines.total  (or <<items.finestotal>>)  for notices. Bug 7707
23:35 wajasu         jcamins: i see.
23:34 ibeardslee     .. damn .. not the way I was thinking of it ;)
23:34 jcamins        (that you don't have to pay by the search for)
23:34 rangi          ibeardslee: ill steal your words then :)
23:34 jcamins        wajasu: the problem is that we don't know of any servers that allow negotiation.
23:33 wajasu         ha
23:33 ibeardslee     rangi: I need to do something similar for the academy moodle.
23:33 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7967 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Z39.50 client should negotiate encoding with server
23:33 wajasu         i have an idea on how to test bug 7967.  i can capture the converstation with wireshark during ldap search.  then apply the patch.  then record another ldap search, and compare the differences.
23:33 jcamins        2) see (1)
23:33 jcamins        1) starting Zebra
23:33 jcamins        Things that help when testing search-related functionality:
23:27 rangi          ibeardslee: yep good idea
23:27 rangi          excellent wajasu
23:25 wajasu         i pasted a question earlier today about that very thing i saw in the code when testing my patch.  i can patch that quick.
23:24 jcamins        ersatz++
23:24 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8168 minor, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , ersatz CSV header in attachment of overdue notices sent to administrator
23:24 wajasu         bug 8168.  i can fix that.
23:24 ibeardslee     ++ .. BUT also need a decent message/tutorial of ensuring that people understand the message about invalid cert from using a cacert
23:24 wajasu         she's gold.
23:23 rangi          wajasu: she's a good tester we need 20 more of her
23:22 mtompset       I think the cacert idea is a good one.
23:21 mtompset       I run https to log into facebook.
23:21 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
23:21 wajasu         i'm glad i got bug 8378 done today.  i'm sure kf will fine another corner case.
23:20 mtj            aaah, the old 'less is more' concept...
23:19 wajasu         i am starting to feel it.  patching some things is like ...
23:18 rangi          yep
23:18 rangi          otherwise we spread ourselves too thin
23:18 wajasu         mail is a can of worms anyway.
23:18 rangi          there's enough to document there
23:18 wajasu         ok
23:18 rangi          wajasu: we make a concious effort to try to only talk about koha
23:17 wahanui        postfix is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
23:17 jcamins        postfix?
23:17 wajasu         do we have a wiki page for setting up postfix as null client(send mail out only, with replies configured to return to another mailhost).  i did it yesterday from scratch on debian sqeeze, and while its fresh, I could write it up.  a couple of folks mentioned.
23:17 rangi          so ppl who care about security and run with https everywhere on, see the https site, others who dont care can see the http one
23:16 rangi          do
23:16 rangi          like twitter, facebook, google, et al
23:16 rangi          you can have both
23:16 rangi          oh not removing
23:10 * jcamins      votes against removing http access to bugzilla.
23:09 rangi          might not, but i run https everywhere and it always grizzles at me hehe
23:09 rangi          also it might stop the automated spammers
23:09 rangi          they could mess up the wiki good
23:08 rangi          someone gets hold of mine
23:08 jcamins        Ah. That's true.
23:08 rangi          cos we type passwords in the clear
23:08 jcamins        why?
23:08 jcamins        Ummm...
23:08 rangi          and put the wiki on https
23:08 rangi          we should get a wildcard cacert for *.koha-community.org
23:07 jcamins        What?
23:07 rangi          you know what
22:57 mtompset       or prove -r xt
22:51 rangi          anytime a template changes, you should run them
22:51 rangi          (not for this case, but in general)
22:51 rangi          too
22:51 rangi          dont forget prove xt/author/
22:50 rangi          for 3.8.4
22:50 rangi          some of the critical ones i applied manually
22:50 jcamins        prove xt
22:50 rangi          there's a bunch sitting waiting for paul to get back, to go into master, so i can cherry-pick them for 3.8.x
22:49 mtompset       How do I trigger the test which requires the Test::YAML::Valid?
22:48 jcamins        Yup.
22:48 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8636 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Some dependencies are not listed by the installer
22:48 mtompset       Ah, bug 8636
22:34 mtompset       Good to know there is a patch.
22:33 mtompset       Not that it matters... I got the appropriate library and kept going.
22:33 jcamins        Yeah, Cache::Memcached::Fast.
22:33 mtompset       My scroll back is too small to check.
22:33 jcamins        mtompset: there's a patch for it.
22:33 mtompset       related to Koha::Cache::... something.
22:32 mtompset       Cache::Memcached::Fast
22:26 rangi          and it is?
22:24 mtompset       Oh, I'm trying to do a git install of koha 3.8.4 -- there's a file missing from the PerlDependencies.
22:01 cait           night all :)
21:58 wajasu         its nice testing with the rains pitter patter...  but then...  BOOM... lightning bugs
21:55 cait           got no lightning up here, but nice rain now
21:54 eythian        cait: yeah, I was watching the lightning before
21:52 eythian        it's more like 8 pages
21:52 eythian        although, by slides I mean "points that it pauses on"
21:52 eythian        jcamins: about 30 minutes
21:52 cait           eythian: we got rain!
21:51 jcamins        eythian: goodness! How long a talk?
21:51 jcamins        It sounds like there's something you have to set up in Plesk, which none of us know about.
21:50 eythian        heh
21:50 * cait         has to make her slides tomorrow
21:50 cait           well... you didn't say no :)
21:50 cait           be very mean to me tomorrow.. you promised!
21:49 cait           eythian: impressive!
21:49 koyauni        at least we can work now, Many thanks guys, you were very helpful
21:49 eythian        cait: 23 slides, and I think I'm about half way through :)
21:48 jcamins        Until you find out how to configure it so that Plesk doesn't get in the way of you using port 80.
21:48 koyauni        so we have to always have the 8080 then
21:47 jcamins        It will take you to the Plesk page.
21:47 koyauni        will it work as http://library.koyauniversity.org
21:47 koyauni        I wonder if I do not define any port for http://library.koyauniversity.org:8080
21:46 koyauni        I am up and run now
21:46 koyauni        all went well,
21:41 wajasu         Awesome!!!
21:40 mtompset       YAY!
21:36 koyauni        now I am in :)
21:32 koyauni        yes
21:32 eythian        there are different ways for something not to work, knowing how something breaks is often the best way of knowing what's wrong.
21:32 mtompset       You'll have to change instancename to library.
21:32 koyauni        I can type, let me look
21:32 mtompset       Did you type this to make sure you are getting the correct password?
21:32 koyauni        the access code to this http://libraryadmin.koyauniversity.org:8080/cgi-bin/koha/installer/install.pl
21:32 mtompset       sudo xmlstarlet sel -t -v 'yazgfs/config/pass' /etc/koha/sites/instancename/koha-conf.xml
21:31 eythian        and what does "does not work" mean?
21:31 koyauni        yes
21:31 mtompset       Are you at the bottom?
21:30 koyauni        in koha-conf.xml there is only one set of kohausr and pass , and that does not work with this admin login
21:30 wajasu         yeah.
21:30 jcamins        Looks like this patch is just about the report. With the dups dealt with elsewhere.
21:29 wajasu         the problem being the report, or the dups?
21:29 mtompset       And so they'll upgrade.
21:29 mtompset       And we'll say, "It's fixed in a newer version."
21:29 mtompset       Yes, but in real life... people will have this problem.
21:28 wajasu         but the patch really is just fixing the report IF you have dups.  And it doesn't remove dups from an upgrade.
21:28 mtompset       And it's Drupal related, jcamins. ;)
21:27 * mtompset     is getting excited, "The data transfer of over 70,000 files is almost complete after weeks of painful networking problems and downtimes."
21:26 mtompset       but if you love testing, you should do that too. ;)
21:25 wizzyrea       that wouldn't be a real life test
21:25 wajasu         can't i just add another row into accountlines.  see it on the overdues_report, apply the patches.  run the report and see its ok?
21:24 jcamins        wajasu: that's my understanding.
21:23 wajasu         the bug didn't mention doing an upgrade.  so i have to install 3.6.x, add patron, items, checkout, have overdues, then upgrade?  that alot of work.
21:22 jcamins        Right.
21:21 wajasu         i'm running master.  you mean i need to do an upgrade to get dups?
21:20 jcamins        wajasu: upgrade from 3.6.x to 3.8.x.
21:19 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8112 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Overdues with Fines giving duplicates
21:19 wajasu         i'm attempting to signoff bug 8112.  i need to fiure out how to get multiple fines against the same overdue item. Hmm.
21:18 jcamins        koyauni: I don't use Drupal at all, so I can't tell you anything about it. Other than that I don't really like it.
21:17 wajasu         yes. but jacamins confimed my suspicion.
21:17 koyauni        wajasu are you asking me?
21:17 jcamins        wajasu: we already tried a2dissite default. ;)
21:17 wajasu         i defer
21:17 jcamins        wajasu: yes, quite sure.
21:16 wajasu         are you sure a2dissite default   would have not freed up port 80.  or maybe listing what was enabled in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled to if the default plesk site was there.
21:16 koyauni        have you guys seen this http://drupalconnect.com/trekk
21:16 koyauni        many thanks for your help,
21:14 koyauni        ok, I do that now
21:14 eythian        yeah
21:13 koyauni        ok, i see, that just give instruction during installation
21:13 jcamins        However, it would probably be a good idea to change it even though it won't have much impact.
21:12 jcamins        koyauni: it doesn't matter for you now. If we'd known that you couldn't use 80 without some special configuration in Plesk before we started, you could've set the INTRAPORT and OPACPORT both to 8080, and saved some of the manual editing.
21:12 koyauni        because that is defined on port 80
21:12 eythian        so, you can change it now (probably not a bad idea) but it won't actually change anything at the moment.
21:12 eythian        koyauni: that only applies when you run koha-create
21:11 koyauni        should the value in koha-site.conf cahnge as well,
21:11 jcamins        Wow.
21:11 koyauni        so defining the port is an important step when working Plesk,
21:11 eythian        hahaha
21:11 * wizzyrea     turns and runs
21:11 * wizzyrea     backs slowly away from plesk
21:11 * wizzyrea     just googled plesk - 3rd hit is "Plesk 0day for sale as thousands of sites hacked
21:10 koyauni        I think this is a good experince and I will write the step by step for Plesk users
21:10 mtompset       I think I'll have another round of caffeine to celebrate.
21:10 mtompset       Amen to that!
21:10 wahanui        plesk is, like, terrible and likely to interfere with setting up Koha
21:10 mtompset       plesk?
21:09 wahanui        okay, eythian.
21:09 eythian        no wahanui, plesk is terrible and likely to interfere with setting up Koha
21:09 koyauni        so to get the user site, http://library.koyauniversity.org
21:09 wahanui        plesk is, like, part of the server
21:09 eythian        wahanui: plesk
21:09 * mtompset     nods, "Yay!"
21:09 jcamins        Yup. So now you go through the webinstaller.
21:08 koyauni        http://libraryadmin.koyauniversity.org:8080/cgi-bin/koha/installer/install.pl
21:08 koyauni        and this is working now
21:08 mtompset       AND! You've got the webinstaller log in!
21:07 koyauni        my sites are back
21:07 mtompset       ha ha! You've got it.
21:06 jcamins        That's what it should have.
21:06 jcamins        Yes.
21:06 koyauni        in port.conf
21:06 jcamins        So I suggest you use Koha on port 8080 until you are more familiar with Linux, Plesk, and Koha.
21:06 koyauni        this is now at NameVirtualHost *:80 Listen 80  NameVirtualHost *:8080 Listen 8080
21:05 jcamins        Right, that's what we tried previously, and Plesk was getting in the way.
21:05 koyauni        but the package has already done that
21:05 mtompset       ignore that.
21:04 koyauni        this guys says, well you must first get the web installer to work as far as i know it should be libraryadmin.yourserverip.XXX  to do that u need to put the koha shortcut into available-sites  then enable it so it gose to enabled-sites folder within apache2 dir in etc
21:04 koyauni        ok
21:04 mtompset       Yes.
21:04 koyauni        so both line should be there
21:04 * mtompset     nods, "No deleting. --- Oooooo."
21:04 koyauni        yes I did
21:03 jcamins        You were supposed to add "Listen 8080" and "NameVirtualHost *:8080."
21:03 jcamins        koyauni: did you delete the line that said "Listen 80"?
21:03 koyauni        can we define two set of ports
21:03 jcamins        Looks like you can choose between using Plesk and running Koha.
21:02 wajasu         you brought down the internet.
21:02 jcamins        Well, you can undo the changes you just made, then.
21:02 koyauni        non of the web sites are accessible
21:02 koyauni        now all the sites has stopped working http://koyauniversity.org/
21:00 jcamins        koyauni: yes, so you can now set up Koha. You'll have to get help from the Plesk folks if you want to change the port to 80.
20:59 koyauni        we are in right track! hurray
20:59 koyauni        look the default site of plesk has gone
20:59 rangi          so its a last resort thing
20:59 jcamins        (that is, change 88.198.51.202:8080 to *:8080)
20:59 rangi          yep im giving it a couple more days to sort itself out, then ill have to nomail the person, not doing that yet tho, because they will never know they have been no mailed and just stop getting mail, and thats arse
20:59 koyauni        http://library.koyauniversity.org:8080/cgi-bin/koha/maintenance.pl
20:59 koyauni        something poistive happens:)
20:58 jcamins        koyauni: try changing those lines to "*:8080"
20:57 eythian        When I post to the list, I'm getting bounces from a comcast address saying it can't connect to the mail server. That doesn't bode well for comcast users.
20:57 koyauni        ok, it says , apache2ctl restart [Thu Aug 23 23:54:45 2012] [warn] VirtualHost 88.198.51.202:8080 overlaps with V                             irtualHost 88.198.51.202:8080, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a Name                             VirtualHost directive [Thu Aug 23 23:54:45 2012] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:8080 has no VirtualHosts
20:53 jcamins        If you already did that, it's time to restart Apache.
20:53 wahanui        jcamins: that doesn't look right
20:53 jcamins        And change /etc/apache2/sites-available/library to say 8080 instead of 80 on the VirtualHost lines.
20:53 mtompset       That's not what it means, koyauni.
20:53 wahanui        jcamins: that doesn't look right
20:53 koyauni        ok, now do I restrat apache2
20:53 jcamins        Change ports.conf the way I just told you.
20:53 jcamins        No, you don't.
20:52 koyauni        I have but it says you have to do it in the 000-default one as well
20:52 jcamins        in /etc/apache2/ports.conf
20:52 koyauni        I should add NameVirtualHost *:8080, Listen 8080 as well
20:52 jcamins        koyauni: no.
20:52 koyauni        you means in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
20:51 * jcamins      has a new answer for the question "can I use Plesk to manage Koha?": "no."
20:51 wajasu         ah
20:51 jcamins        wajasu: not here. The problem is that Apache is never hit.
20:50 jcamins        NameVirtualHost *:8080
20:50 wajasu         sometimes you have a site called "default" that you should disable.  so port 80 is freed up.
20:50 jcamins        and
20:50 jcamins        Listen 8080
20:50 jcamins        koyauni: add two lines to that file, actually:
20:49 koyauni        yes, 80 is the default in Apache 2 and Plesk
20:49 koyauni        in the ports it says # If you just change the port or add more ports here, you will likely also # have to change the VirtualHost statement in # /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
20:48 rangi          and it expects you to do some silly put everything under some dir in plesk thing
20:48 rangi          the plesk site (being served by apache2) is answering for everything on port 80
20:47 koyauni        I have just created the subdomain in Plesk,
20:47 jcamins        rangi: in that case, changing the port won't do anything.
20:47 rangi          what plesk is blocking is sites-enabled being used is what i think is happening
20:47 jcamins        eythian: I don't know, but that seems to be the issue.
20:46 rangi          yep, weve been through that
20:46 mtompset       Actually, I was wondering if koyauni actually did log into Plesk and set things up? https://library.koyauniversity.org:8443/
20:46 * eythian      still fails to understand how/why plesk would prevent you using port 80. It is the standard port after all.
20:45 koyauni        let me do that, cross you finger :)
20:42 jcamins        Then to access your catalog you'll go to http://library.koyauniversity.org:8080/ and http://libraryadmin.koyauniversity.org:8080/
20:42 jcamins        And you add a "Listen 8080" line to /etc/apache2/ports.conf
20:41 jcamins        /etc/apache2/sites-available/library
20:41 jcamins        In your virtual host file.
20:41 jcamins        No.
20:41 huginn         rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on August 24, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
20:41 rangi          @wunder nzwn
20:40 koyauni        that means in koha-site.conf I should use 8080 in my setting
20:39 jcamins        koyauni: he's saying instead of using port 80, make Apache listen on port 8080, and use port 8080 for the two Koha virtual hosts.
20:37 koyauni        guys do you understand what this Plesk guy trying to tell me here, http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?p=637024#post637024  please see the last reply
20:33 rangi          eggs
20:33 rangi          An Open Knowledge Foundation project. Site content licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license.
20:33 rangi          and to be even more ironic hipster about it
20:33 jcamins        heather_hernandez++
20:32 wizzyrea       O.o
20:32 rangi          and call it ODC-BY
20:32 rangi          oh look lets take CC-BY-SA
20:31 jcamins        rangi: yeah, I know.
20:31 rangi          sorry ODC
20:31 mtompset       Now there's an ancient standard.
20:31 jcamins        :)
20:31 jcamins        Only more terse.
20:31 jcamins        It's like Jeopardy.
20:31 mtompset       ODBC?!
20:31 jcamins        Right?
20:31 jcamins        Microsoft!
20:31 jcamins        Ooh, I know this one!
20:30 rangi          STOP CREATING LICENSES YOU FOOLS
20:30 rangi          ODBC-BY
20:30 jcamins        Main menu -> press extension for director -> main menu.
20:30 * jcamins      gets caught in a phone menu loop.
20:29 * wizzyrea     debates
20:29 wizzyrea       drunk in the afternoon, or merely early morning
20:29 rangi          ill ask for 2
20:29 wizzyrea       kekekekekeke
20:29 wizzyrea       so, 12pm or midnight?
20:28 wizzyrea       ohh yeahhhh
20:28 rangi          its a voucher for a jug of sangria
20:28 * wizzyrea     giggles
20:28 rangi          the best thing was
20:28 eythian        PMIRITE!
20:28 rangi          :)
20:28 wizzyrea       j/k j/k
20:28 wizzyrea       AMIRITE
20:28 wizzyrea       but rangi, midnight is at NIGHT so it must be PM
20:28 eythian        g'day kathryn
20:28 cait           hi kathryn :)
20:27 * eythian      has been using LaTeX forever, no desire to change now.
20:26 jcamins_away   koyauni: in case no one made this clear, if you use LibLime Koha, no one will be able to offer you any help.
20:26 eythian        Who is this "we", kemosabe? :)
20:26 rangi          thats what i use
20:26 jcamins_away   eythian: I thought we were using the HTML slide generator?
20:24 cait           it's productive procrastination :)
20:24 rangi          heh
20:24 eythian        I don't know if that counts as procrastination or not :)
20:24 eythian        I can now \usepackage{catalyst,koha} and get a catalyst-themed, koha-focussed presentation format automagically.
20:23 rangi          :)
20:23 cait           only feeling a bit bad because I haven't any slides yet and eythian has :)
20:23 eythian        on the plus side, it's forced me to refactor my presentation LaTeX code to be modular rather than copy-pasta
20:21 cait           heh
20:21 cait           bad cait makes eythian work a lot for that :(
20:21 rangi          will mention that
20:21 rangi          oh good idea
20:21 eythian        We have the first German Koha workshop/user group next week that cait and I are doing.
20:20 eythian        hmm
20:20 rangi          eythian: im doing 5@5 today, anything cool i should mention from you?
20:18 eythian        later
20:18 eythian        I know cos I wrote it :)
20:18 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8547 major, P2, ---, robin, Passed QA , Enabling star ratings causes javascript errors that cause IE to have a boo boo
20:18 eythian        no, that was bug 8547
20:18 nengard        Okay, for now I'll just leave that one alone - time for me to call it a day :) talk to you all tomorrow!
20:17 nengard        it was a file that was touched
20:17 nengard        even though it wasn't talked about in the bug
20:17 nengard        eythian the patch did fix the ratings JS too
20:16 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @normnz: "How a tiny patch from a 1st time contibuter got unpstream in minutes. Koha really is a buzzing FLOSS project http://t.co/1eO0zx1m #kohails"
20:16 rangi          someone doesnt understand time
20:15 rangi          Voucher must be redeemed by 12pm midnight.
20:15 rangi          heh
20:14 eythian        and it caused errors when viewing the afflicted URLs
20:14 eythian        (mostly, anyway)
20:14 eythian        no, that was tags
20:13 nengard        but maybe that's not it
20:13 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8315 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha
20:13 nengard        bug 8315
20:12 eythian        but, I don't recall a not saving thing
20:12 eythian        nengard: hmm, there was a thing about star ratings causing a JS error
20:09 nengard        anyone remember what bug report mentioned the problem where star ratings weren't saving? I remember a bug report and a fix - was that the 3.02 error message bug?
20:08 eythian        koyauni: short answer: "no". Long answer: "noooooooooooooo". Serious answer: I haven't used it, nor looked at it, but it's a fork of Koha from a few years ago, so I wouldn't count on it.
20:07 nengard        but not those tables
20:07 nengard        as for schema, I have documented a lot more tables then schema shows
20:07 nengard        so I have a section in the FAQ on values that might be used in reports
20:07 eythian        ah, of course
20:07 nengard        well it's used in reporting
20:06 eythian        nengard: I just checked the database schema to see if you'd got there yet, didn't realise it was even exposed in the UI to warrant a mention in the manual
20:06 * oleonard     will have to check the logs for this one
20:06 koyauni        is that package more advance
20:05 koyauni        hi guys, what are views on Liblem Koha 4.1
20:03 nengard        even I can't remember everything I've written
20:03 nengard        after i got your message i went to the manual to add it and found that it was there already :)
20:03 eythian        :)
20:03 nengard        eythian your comment about checking the manual made me laugh
20:02 wahanui        niihau, eythian
20:02 eythian        hi
20:02 eythian        I propose we move from MARC to MORK: http://search.cpan.org/%7Esimonw/File-Mork-0.3/lib/File/Mork.pm
20:02 wajasu         hi
20:02 rangi          morning
19:46 mtompset       Ah... Data::Pagination is for Solr.
19:14 JoeLib001      Wow, that was a pile of messes. hehe. :-)
19:02 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
19:02 wajasu         ok. i finally got bug 8378 readdy for signoff.
19:00 JoeLib001      Yay. :-)
18:51 jcamins        JoeLib001: I'll take a look.
18:48 JoeLib001      jcamins: I can test it too. :-)
18:47 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8550 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Z39.50 searches for ISBN/ISSN problematic
18:47 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8680 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Z39.50 searches for ISBN/ISSN problematic in the Acquistions Module
18:47 JoeLib001      jcamins: Could you make a patch for Bug 8680 as well? It is pretty much needs the same fixes as were in bug 8550.
18:45 nengard        no problemo :)
18:45 oleonard       nengard: Yeah I think that would be good
18:45 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8428 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , can't save contracts
18:45 nengard        oleonard bug 8428 should i submmit a new bug report for the other issue i found?
18:42 tcohen         jcamins, I signed off that patch, worked well on 3.8 also
18:40 JoeLib001      The Z39.50 Search Script was fixed in the /usr/share/koha/cgi-bin/cataloguing folder, but not in /usr/share/koha/cgi-bin/acqui folder.
18:39 huginn         04Bug 8680: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Z39.50 searches for ISBN/ISSN problematic in the Acquistions Module
18:39 JoeLib001      http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8680
18:39 JoeLib001      Hello. :-)
18:17 tcohen         done
18:08 tcohen         i'll sign for master in a few minutes, as soon as I have my master setup running with that record
18:08 jcamins        It should backport.
18:08 tcohen         would you submit patches fro 3.8.x?
18:07 jcamins        Sorry.
18:07 jcamins        Oh, right.
18:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6617 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , table of contents not printing right if entered right
18:07 tcohen         which doesnt have bug 6617 applied
18:06 tcohen         I used your patched MARCslim2OPACDetail.xsl file, which was for master..
18:06 tcohen         jcamins: my mistake
18:06 cait           the 505 do look ok for that record
18:05 cait           hm
18:05 cait           quite odd
18:05 cait           oh yes
18:04 jcamins        ... odd.
18:01 tcohen         jcamins: take a look at this: http://ffyh.biblio.unc.edu.ar/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=67513
17:55 cait           hi mtompset
17:55 mtompset       Greetings, cait
17:44 tcohen         i was having lunch
17:43 tcohen         jcamins++
17:29 mtompset       Less speed, more haste.
17:29 mtompset       Ah, yes.
17:27 oleonard       If it fails QA I'll know I was too quick ;)
17:24 mtompset       That was pretty quick on the patch. :)
17:24 mtompset       you've earned it. :)
17:23 * oleonard     supposes he ought to eat lunch
17:21 kf             ok, have to leave :) bbl :)
17:21 kf             son ot sure how to solve it best
17:21 kf             I was not sure if there was a new way to do it
17:21 kf             thx
17:21 kf             oleonard++
17:20 mtompset       jcamins++
17:20 mtompset       oleonard++
17:09 oleonard       kf: Patch sent
17:05 wajasu         should i create a bug/patch for what i show in my pasted text?
17:04 pastebot       "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "csv headers in overdue notice attachment even for non-csv file output" (42 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/132
16:54 mtompset       oleonard++ # admitting mistakes is a good thing. Fixing them is better. :)
16:52 oleonard       Yeah, 8428 is my bad
16:38 kf             thx :)
16:38 oleonard       Sure kf I'll take a look
16:35 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8428 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , can't save contracts
16:35 kf             bug 8428
16:35 kf             hm no
16:35 kf             it's 8482
16:35 kf             lots of code is different now
16:35 kf             I am not sure if there is some way to do it with our new calendar
16:34 kf             I was wondering if you could take a look at the javascript problem witht he calendar
16:34 oleonard       kf: Here.
16:34 mtompset       when you fix one line in 12 files.. 10K becomes more reasonable.
16:34 kf             oleonard: still around?
16:34 mtompset       Exactly...
16:33 jcamins        12 files.
16:33 mtompset       Ah... you fixed multiple files... I was wondering why the patch was so big for a single line change. :)
16:31 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8678 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , XSLT stylesheets output XML, but HTML is needed
16:31 jcamins        tcohen: Patch attached to bug 8678.
16:30 mtompset       tcohen: I think someone is cleaning the data up? I see a couple lines now. :)
16:26 mtompset       Bye, gaetan_B
16:26 gaetan_B       bye !
16:26 mtompset       (preferable automated, of course)
16:26 jcamins        mtompset: that's the tricky bit.
16:25 mtompset       So, actually, this brings a question to mind. How would we write a test for this case?
16:25 jcamins        tcohen: patching now.
16:23 mtompset       I was more explicit. :P
16:23 mtompset       You implied, you didn't say. :P
16:23 mtompset       xml blanked out, skips to next xml by passing html.
16:22 jcamins        mtompset: yes, that's what I just said. :P
16:22 mtompset       actually... that in a bizarre way explains why the div's got nested so ugly.
16:22 jcamins        Which is why we have to change the output method to html.
16:21 mtompset       I guess, I'm out of touch with the standard.
16:21 jcamins        kf: not so much, no.
16:21 kf             does xhtml allow for that?
16:21 jcamins        The second is a <div> with no content.
16:21 jcamins        The first closes an open <div>.
16:21 jcamins        Those are two completely different things.
16:20 jcamins        XSLT ignored it.
16:20 mtompset       How can we now change the </div> into <div/>
16:20 jcamins        mtompset: I *did* put in a space.
16:20 jcamins        Yeah, fixes the problem.
16:20 mtompset       Now I'm confused again.
16:20 jcamins        mtompset: also, there's no way we can modify those lines to fix it.
16:19 mtompset       you're probably right, and changing to HTML is quicker and simpler than modifying all those lines.
16:18 jcamins        mtompset: because web browsers won't handle them?
16:18 mtompset       </span> ==> <span/>
16:18 mtompset       Why not change the closing divs, etc. to be xml?
16:17 jcamins        I'm just testing it works, but it looks like it does.
16:17 tcohen         +1 for outputting HTML then!!!
16:17 tcohen         oh
16:17 jcamins        tcohen: yup.
16:17 tcohen         is it just pasted inside the body of an HTML?
16:16 tcohen         jcamins, what happens to that xml output?
16:16 mtompset       line 10 from xml to html?!
16:15 jcamins        I'm trying to test it now.
16:15 jcamins        tcohen: in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl
16:15 jcamins        mtompset: no.
16:15 wizzyrea       bleh.
16:14 tcohen         in XSLT.pm?
16:14 mtompset       Isn't that going backwards?
16:14 jcamins        tcohen: I think the solution might be to change the output method from xml to html.
16:14 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5408 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Refactor C4::Circulation::GetIssuingRule
16:14 kf             [off] bug 5408
16:13 kf             hmpf
16:12 jcamins        We weren't outputting HTML.
16:12 jcamins        I think I figured it out. And I think the solution is embarrassing.
16:12 jcamins        Ah-ha.
16:09 jcamins        tcohen: yeah, it will be.
16:09 tcohen         jcamins, the staff interface is equally broken
16:09 * jcamins      is looking for this.
16:09 jcamins        tcohen: there would still be an issue in FF, but the lack of the space throws off everything. What we need is a setting to disable self-closing tags.
16:09 jcamins        tcohen: the problem is that it is self-closing the tags without any space.
16:08 tcohen         jcamins, where's that XSLTProc thing?
16:04 wajasu         for the fix I am working on, I decided to perform Unicode::Normalize NFC on the letter content and subject in Letters.pm EnqueueLetter adn _add_attachments routines. so utf8 codes don't get cut off inmysql when stored.
16:01 * mtompset     laughs, "That rocks!"
16:01 eythian        You use ALT-255
16:01 eythian        do you people not remember MSDOS?
16:00 mtompset       &#32; then. :P
15:58 jcamins        But we might want it to break.
15:58 mtompset       I was joking. :)
15:58 tcohen         :-P
15:58 mtompset       &nbsp; :)
15:57 jcamins        tcohen: as soon as I figure out how. :)
15:57 tcohen         jcamins, will you fix it?
15:56 jcamins        Yep.
15:56 mtompset       Bad data is useful for finding library module bugs. :)
15:55 jcamins        There's no space before the close.
15:55 jcamins        Well, XHTML.
15:55 jcamins        XSLTProc is producing vaguely invalid XML.
15:55 tcohen         XSLTProc is calling the xslt with a wrong parameter?
15:54 jcamins        It's XSLTproc.
15:54 mtompset       nested ugly.
15:54 jcamins        Well I'll be.
15:54 jcamins        It is.
15:54 jcamins        Wait.
15:54 jcamins        What I have to figure out is why it's not returning any <div> at all.
15:54 jcamins        tcohen: we certainly should.
15:53 tcohen         shoudnt' we make it retrn something (an empty span?) to die more gracefuly?
15:53 mtompset       Okay, explain to me why the XSLT skips the /div if the call-template returns/does nothing?
15:53 tcohen         if we're about to enforce the not-see-the-$a-if-second-indicator=0 thing
15:52 tcohen         jcamins: a marc question and a problem
15:52 wahanui        mtompset is trying to do a variety of projects in less than three months!
15:52 tcohen         yes mtompset
15:51 jcamins        Yeah.
15:51 mtompset       So, you just put an a on line 591?!
15:51 tcohen         found a bug in the xslt anyway
15:50 tcohen         i just added the a subfield for that case, and *ordered* my librarians to fix their cataloging practices hehe
15:50 jcamins        Which I guess is what you did sometime before the first line in the window when I came back. :)
15:50 jcamins        Okay, the way to fix it is to add atru to the subfieldSelectSpan.
15:50 jcamins        And I didn't know that you had fixed it since I showed up. ;)
15:49 jcamins        I thought you were talking about that.
15:49 jcamins        And basically everything you might want to close.
15:49 tcohen         oh, I didn't know that
15:49 jcamins        And closing spans.
15:49 jcamins        FF has a bug where it discards closing divs.
15:49 mtompset       So what is the tweak that you made?
15:49 mtompset       Oh, it is busted in IE too.
15:49 jcamins        tcohen: oh, I misunderstood what you were saying the problem was.
15:48 mtompset       Now to look at it in IE.
15:48 * kf           waves
15:48 tcohen         there you go...
15:48 tcohen         i'll remove the $a from that xslt
15:48 tcohen         ok ok
15:47 mtompset       we want it broken again. ;)
15:47 mtompset       Yes, but about 40 minutes ago, you fixed the page, tcohen.
15:47 jcamins        You're looking at the source, or Firebug?
15:47 tcohen         :-P
15:47 tcohen         in my ff, the div is not written
15:46 jcamins        At least, I'm pretty sure that's the problem.
15:46 jcamins        Actually, the closing div is written and FF tosses it.
15:46 tcohen         so the closing div is not written
15:46 tcohen         right, and empty result from subfieldSelectSpan skips the rest of the sentences in the loop
15:45 jcamins        When there is a zero in the second indicator, $a is not supposed to be consulted.
15:44 jcamins        $a is used instead of $t/$r.
15:43 tcohen         and as expected the xslt is not looking for the (incorrect?) $a they used
15:43 oleonard       Oh wait that page looks fine in FF now too. tcohen did you change something?
15:43 mtompset       It doesn't?!
15:43 tcohen         jcamins, oleonard: the record has a 0 in the second indicator
15:42 jcamins        I thought I had put an extra space in to get around the problem, but I guess it doesn't work on this particular combination.
15:42 jcamins        oleonard: FF doesn't support XHTML.
15:42 oleonard       jcamins: What's the story?
15:41 jcamins        That's what I just said.
15:41 mtompset       I used FireFox.
15:41 mtompset       I could have tried.
15:41 oleonard       Oh wow, it looks fine in Opera
15:41 jcamins        mtompset: on IE?
15:41 mtompset       I'm looking at it from Windoze. ;)
15:41 jcamins        Looks good to me.
15:41 mtompset       Not me.
15:41 oleonard       Not me
15:40 jcamins        Ooh, I bet I know what the problem is. You're using an old version of FF?
15:40 oleonard       tcohen's trouble record: http://ffyh.biblio.unc.edu.ar/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=67513
15:40 jcamins        oleonard: I tested with multiple 505s containing just $a, $t$r, and a mixture.
15:39 jcamins        I am around.
15:33 tcohen         and this record only has a $a subfield
15:33 tcohen         which is reasonable as we're asking for tru subfields
15:32 tcohen         s/nad/and/
15:32 tcohen         subfieldSelectSpan is giving no results nad is sort-of aborting
15:28 mtompset       and the closing div is inside the for-each loop.
15:27 mtompset       The subfieldSelectSpan call doesn't create another contentblock.
15:26 mtompset       Yes, but just looking at the code, not that I complete understand it, but how would it nest like that?
15:22 oleonard       I'm wondering if multiple 505s were not tested when 6617 was patched.
15:21 tcohen         thanks oleonard
15:21 oleonard       tcohen: I suggest you ask jcamins_away when he's around
15:15 mtompset       or an XSLT bug?
15:13 oleonard       I wonder if it could be a data problem?
15:12 tcohen         which looks like it was intended
15:12 tcohen         there is one contentblock for each 505 field
15:12 tcohen         but...
15:11 oleonard       A CSS problem wouldn't cause dozens of redundant tags to appear
15:11 tcohen         it looks the problem is not the contentblock itself but the css?
15:10 oleonard       The "contentblock" div was introduced in the patch for 6617
15:08 tcohen         it is healed mtompste
15:08 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6617 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , table of contents not printing right if entered right
15:08 oleonard       Bug 6617
15:08 mtompset       Mostly?
15:08 mtompset       the page looks healed.
15:08 tcohen         completely removing it, or moving it outside the loop fixes it
15:07 oleonard       I'm looking tcohen
15:04 Joubu          good bye !
15:04 tcohen         oleonard, what is the purpose of that contentblock tag there?
15:04 mtompset       Okay, subscription number will be defined, as I believe a SELECT count(*) ... always returns a number.
15:02 mtompset       au revoir, reiveune1
15:02 reiveune1      bye
15:01 mtompset       Okay, this is weird... Line 669 in opac-detail.pl -- Does the subscription number need to param'd twice?
14:58 mtompset       What do you mean "opacSerialDefaultTab was set but not in the DB"? Was it NULL in the DB?
14:55 mtompset       Yes, perhaps it is a data problem, but data problems should not trigger meaningless error messages. They should trigger, "Hey, there is a data problem," error.
14:54 oleonard       Hi LBA
14:54 tcohen         maybe its a bug, or a record problem that should be noticed
14:54 tcohen         is it ok that $linkvalue = undef? should we handle it specially?
14:53 mtompset       $linkvalue =~ s/(\(|\))//g; probably should have a "if $linkvalue" on the end there.
14:52 wahanui        oleonard: I forgot it
14:52 oleonard       wahanui: forget it
14:52 mtompset       Because I've noticed in C4::Biblio that there is no error checking on the code/value pairs, not just at 1790.
14:51 wahanui        it has been said that it is not.
14:51 mtompset       where is it?
14:50 tcohen         but found the foreach that loops and creates the contentblock
14:49 tcohen         not yet
14:49 oleonard       tcohen: Do you see what the problem is?
14:48 tcohen         oleonard, its a xslt problem
14:47 druthb         eythian++
14:46 eythian        3.8.4 packages are out now
14:43 tcohen         (that was not the problem anyway)
14:43 tcohen         (not setting a default value)
14:43 tcohen         I guess an upgrade error
14:43 tcohen         opacSerialDefaultTab was set but not in the DB
14:41 mtompset       Don't have access to a 3.8.4 right now... grabbing source code to read.
14:41 tcohen         (the only errors I get in the logs)
14:39 tcohen         Use of uninitialized value $opac_serial_default in string eq at /usr/share/koha_ffyh/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-detail.pl line 955
14:39 tcohen         Use of uninitialized value $linkvalue in substitution (s///) at /usr/share/koha_ffyh/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 1790
14:39 mtompset       Oh my evilness, it's full of contentblocks. ;)
14:38 * oleonard     warns all not to look directly at it!
14:36 mtompset       Okay, but that's a recursive descent into madness!
14:36 oleonard       Something about the "contents" display
14:35 mtompset       What's with all the contentblocks?!
14:33 oleonard       Yikes
14:31 tcohen         Can anyone tell me if you're having this issue (3.8.4) http://ffyh.biblio.unc.edu.ar/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=67513
14:17 mtompset       Thanks.
14:17 mtompset       tcohen++
14:14 tcohen         /etc/network/
14:14 mtompset       anyone remember where interfaces is?
14:13 mtompset       Well, it's not like this is a koha feature, so I figure if we get it in within the next week or so, it should be there for 3.8.5
14:12 tcohen         (and ubuntu.*.packages
14:12 mtompset       So I apt-get'd koha-common, and started tweaking.
14:12 tcohen         (the INSTALL instructions)
14:11 tcohen         I hope they get pushed soon
14:11 mtompset       Then I said.. bah... I'll give packages a whirl, rather than compile it all up myself.
14:11 tcohen         yeah. only those
14:11 mtompset       and only 2 things actually came from debian.koha-community.org -- the cgi... memcache thing and the template... htmltotext one.
14:10 mtompset       apt-get install'd those.
14:10 mtompset       noticed two things missing.
14:10 mtompset       check the koha_perl_deps.pl
14:09 mtompset       Didnt have to install dselect at all. ;)
14:09 mtompset       tweaked each line to sudo apt-get install.
14:08 mtompset       I created the list by running the ubuntu-pkg-check.sh script
14:08 mtompset       but I didn't do a dselect.
14:08 mtompset       It was going pretty smoothly using the 3.6.8 files in 3.8.4
14:07 tcohen         hehe
14:07 mtompset       Turns out my next server to install is 64-bit. :)
14:07 tcohen         hi mtompset
14:07 mtompset       Greetings, tcohen.
14:03 wizzyrea       and certainly, 4 mentions in a day that I missed is unusual.
13:58 mtompset       I'm sure if it was important, you'd be notified somehow. ;)
13:56 wizzyrea       though i certainly hope that someone would *email* or *tweet* at me if that were the case.
13:56 wizzyrea       it's just that I hate feeling like I might have missed something important like, say, OMG WEBSITE IS BROKEN
13:56 * mtompset     mutters, "You will fix all the random bugs."
13:56 * oleonard     is getting a little hypnotized by the random bug widget on the dashboard
13:55 wizzyrea       apparently it was 4 of my plethora of added quotes ;)
13:55 wizzyrea       hehe
13:55 mtompset       Oops. ;)
13:55 mtompset       That's for going hunting through the IRC logs, wizzyrea. ;(
13:54 mtompset       http://youtu.be/mQZmCJUSC6g
13:54 wahanui        ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow....
13:54 gmcharlt       wahanui: no, you are not gmcharlt
13:54 wahanui        gmcharlt?
13:54 gmcharlt       wahanui?
13:54 huginn         gmcharlt: Quote #187: "<slef> did wahanui just burst into flames?" (added by gmcharlt at 08:29 PM, February 20, 2012)
13:54 gmcharlt       @quote random
13:52 * oleonard     doesn't get it
13:51 nengard        LOL
13:50 druthb         hee hee
13:49 * wizzyrea     goes to look at the logs
13:49 * wizzyrea     wonders what people said about her yesterday
13:42 mtompset       good enough to play.
13:42 mtompset       Hmm.... well at least the wired one is back.
13:41 jcamins        mtompset: did you restart VirtualBox? Switching between different interfaces on my laptop causes the NATed interface on my VM to freeze.
13:40 mtompset       I have wireless and wired into my netbook.
13:40 mtompset       bridged adapter only works over a wired interface.
13:40 oleonard       Loose virtual cable?
13:39 mtompset       That might be it...
13:39 mtompset       Oh wait... loose cable.
13:39 mtompset       But my problem is more likely a VirtualBox problem than a koha problem.
13:36 oleonard       How about you WaqarAzeem, any luck?
13:36 khall          excellent!
13:36 mtompset       khall++
13:35 mtompset       Hey, that was the exact same thing I was looking for. ;)
13:10 khall          quit the console and delete everything in the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules then reboot, and you should be fixed up, assuming it's a problem with the vm and not something else.
13:08 WaqarAzeem     yes i tried it ...
13:07 * jcamins      thought he remembered an option like that.
13:07 khall          the console the is
13:07 khall          WaqarAzeem: did you try the option to fix the ip address not found error that is in the control panel?
13:06 WaqarAzeem     this message appeared on boot
13:06 jcamins        khall would know.
13:06 jcamins        WaqarAzeem: however, I only looked at the virtual appliance once, briefly, so I don't remember any more than that.
13:05 jcamins        WaqarAzeem: I think you need to manually configure the IP address using one of the options in the control panel.
13:04 WaqarAzeem     Hi everyone... i am getting "IP address not found" message on freshly downloaded "Koha_3.8_Virtual_Appliance_-_Configured.ova"
12:25 druthb         hiya.
12:25 oleonard       Hi druthb
12:23 druthb         o/
12:23 oleonard       Hi #koha
11:47 koyauni        thanks
11:46 slef           anyway, lunchtime here, and I'm just getting cross about Plesk again, so I'm going to go eat! Bye!
11:45 slef           so paste the contents between each <VirtualHost ...>...</VirtualHost> pair into a different vhosts.conf
11:45 slef           koyauni: fix the error messages. At best, you'll need a different vhosts.conf file (so a different Plesk subdomain?) for OPAC and Intranet.
11:44 slef           The system works against you. It acts as though it knows best.
11:44 koyauni        I did copy the content from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/YOURLIBRARYNAME to a vhosts.conf file, but it gave me error messages
11:44 slef           Yes and you can make changes with ssh access as root, but then Plesk will overwrite some of them.
11:43 slef           but the only need Plesk, cPanel and things like that serve is "I need Plesk"
11:43 koyauni        I have SSH access to root
11:43 slef           it depends on the needs
11:43 slef           a couple use LDAP-based configurations now
11:43 slef           or no control panel for the simpler ones
11:42 eythian        ssh
11:42 slef           DTC
11:42 koyauni        cPanel
11:42 koyauni        upgraded to what? what is better
11:42 slef           the ones from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/YOURLIBRARYNAME probably
11:42 koyauni        in domain folder a conf folder exist and one of these direction I found says I can create a vhotes.conf and put some new rule in there so Pleck can follow, but it does not say what rule :(
11:41 slef           Also, it was a different verion of Plesk and they have a bad habit of changing things in incompatible ways and not documenting them.
11:40 slef           I've done similar things before, I don't remember the specifics, it would cost me quite a bit to dig through the notes to find it, it is almost exactly no fun and plesk is broken in many other ways, so all of our Plesk-using clients have upgraded to better things.
11:39 koyauni        I searched the whole wen in 3 days now, no info on this issue but many people ask question
11:39 slef           eythian: there is something seriously wrong with it.
11:39 eythian        in which case, maybe you can configure plesk itself to go away and stop being annoying.
11:39 eythian        unless it's being intercepted by the virtual host or something
11:38 eythian        I don't even understand how it could be in your way, to be honest. Apache should be failing to start if plesk has bound to port 80.
11:38 koyauni        some how the real domain created in Pleck is not connecting with virtual domain created by Koha in Apache2
11:38 eythian        yeah, that's fine. But I know nothing about plesk to be able to tell you how to get it out of your way.
11:37 koyauni        the out put
11:36 koyauni        the of enabled library
11:36 koyauni        no I have installed koha and all went well, please see here at the bottom http://kl1p.com/koyauni
11:35 koyauni        I have all other projects there and I do not want to mess up them as well
11:35 eythian        I mean, that's what you want a webserver for in the first place
11:35 koyauni        hahah :)
11:35 eythian        If plesk doesn't let you set up apache2 to listen on port 80, then there is something seriously wrong with it.
11:35 slef           koyauni: what's the worst than can happen? You're already using Plesk, so you're already in an awful place ;)
11:33 koyauni        now you scare me and I do not dare to do that ! :(
11:33 koyauni        look what Plesk said to me http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?p=636922&posted=1#post636922
11:32 slef           koyauni: try it and see (make sure your backups are good, first!)
11:32 slef           koyauni: only if Plesk knows nothing about that port and doesn't mess with it. I think it probably will, though. Plesk is rather invasive, like a biological parasite.
11:31 koyauni        at the moment it is on 80, but if I make that 888 might work better as 80 is default
11:31 koyauni        self: hi, you gave me good direction on my Koha installation, I still have issue with viewing koha via my subdoamin, do you think a new defined port will solve this issue,
11:24 eythian        Well, I wasn't thinking of zebra really, more so you can easily do something that would, say, move the biblio number from 090 to 900$c when you see it's wrong.
11:23 slef           transform MARCXML to something cuter then... but then we break zebra don't we?
11:22 eythian        I'm also looking for an excuse to play with MARC::MIR
11:22 slef           true but then people could eventually transform and input random XML formats of biblio data
11:22 eythian        MARCXML is not the most semantically rich of formats really.
11:22 eythian        but a fair bit more terrible...
11:21 eythian        yeeees....
11:21 slef           amen but use XSL on MARCXML and it'll be even more general
11:20 eythian        I really need to write a MARC transformation system at some point.
11:19 eythian        I wouldn't
11:19 slef           now, usual big question: do I assume that who/whatever put it in 090 knew what they were doing? ;)
11:14 slef           so I guess I get to reconfigure something now
11:13 wahanui        ROFL is rolling on floor laughing
11:13 slef           wahanui: ROFL
11:13 wahanui        yeah looks like it is accessed by a reference to SEARCH_RESULT
11:13 slef           yeah looks like it
11:13 slef           oh wait... 090 maybe
11:12 slef           well I can't see the bib number in the exported records anywhere
11:10 slef           yeah I usually run it through less but forgot
11:10 eythian        oh yeah, that's a pain
11:09 slef           why thank you zebra, I wanted a load of control characters to reprogram my terminal character set :-/
11:08 slef           I run with -x when I debug to make it easier to read... nice to know the packages use -x by default
11:08 rangi          and if you are not doing -x then the reason is usually the marc is too long, but if you are doing -x it just means that the 999c is missing
11:08 slef           this is a pre-packages database imported
11:07 eythian        ah yeah, they use XML by default
11:07 eythian        also yeah, -x Changes Things in Ways
11:07 slef           rangi: whatever the packages do
11:07 rangi          cos the common reason for that message is that the bib number is in 999
11:07 rangi          slef: were you running it with -x before?
11:06 mtompset       That's weird. I thought lines that started with # are comments, even in .po files.
11:06 slef           -v -v -x -k, here we come
11:06 eythian        when it says "warning" it means "warning, I'm going to do nothing. But I don't really want to call it fatal."
11:05 eythian        I think it is
11:04 slef           could it be the reason why zebra doesn't seem to know any of that library's books?
11:04 eythian        There probably is, but I've never worked out what.
11:03 slef           is there a common reason for "11:59:52-23/08 zebraidx(23058) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)" which I've forgotten while on holiday? :)
11:01 eythian        I think it usually tells you the message that's wrong
11:01 eythian        you'll have to find the message that's wrong, once you've done that it's pretty obvious
11:01 eythian        mtompset: yeah
11:00 mtompset       a po file?
10:59 mtompset       What file do I have to edit to fix it?
10:58 mtompset       I was making it generic.
10:58 mtompset       79/81
10:58 mtompset       11/9
10:58 slef           seems like there should be numbers in there
10:58 mtompset       french installed fine. th-THA installed fine.
10:58 slef           with the #s?
10:58 marcelr        mtompset: english and translation do not contain same number of %s
10:57 marcelr        mtompset: i saw that a lot too
10:55 mtompset       Is anyone familiar with "tmpl_process3.pl: Warning: unconsistent %s count: (##/##):"?
10:25 koyauni        hi KOHA people
09:35 rangi          thanks slef
09:31 slef           rangi: pretty sure he's been on list as libsitali@gmail
09:30 slef           rangi: Sitali Chrispin Simasiku?
09:28 slef           rangi: Zambian... looking...
09:27 eythian        Heh, I have changed exactly 1 line in the 3.6.8 release
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09:00 magnuse        ah, not long anough for http://swib.org/swib12/ then
08:59 eythian        Until the 20th or so of September I think
08:59 magnuse        eythian: how long are you staying in europe again?
08:58 magnuse        eythian: very cool!
08:56 eythian        magnuse: I'm expecting to do it today, I'm waiting for Katrin to get back from whatever she's doing so I can show her how it's done.
08:55 magnuse        eythian: any idea when you will get the time to package 3.8.4?
08:48 rangi          heh
08:48 mtompset       Or should that be kia ora, rangi? :)
08:48 eythian        I'm typing on a german keyboard but using the US layout. Making the strangest typos sometimes.
08:47 mtompset       Hello, eythian  and rangi . :)
08:47 eythian        also, hello.
08:47 rangi          yep even
08:47 rangi          ye[
08:47 eythian        it makes a fair difference
08:47 eythian        yeah, all of a sudden all your data can live in cache
08:47 rangi          it will work even better if you tune mysql to use it well
08:47 mtompset       I hope this wasn't a mistake. :)
08:46 mtompset       Wow... 8GB of ram makes a huge difference. :)
08:45 * mtompset     nods, "I read that afterwards. DOH!"
08:40 rangi          # without interactive mode. it can be seen as config file.
08:40 rangi          # this file provides environment variables to use perl Makefile.PL
08:39 mtompset       And is install_misc/install_koha_on_fresh_debian even used?
08:37 mtompset       install_misc/environment_Makefile.PL
08:34 mtompset       out of curiousity, does anyone know what install_misc/environment_Makefile... is for?
08:33 mtompset       Well, it seems like I have my first 64-bit Ubuntu install about to happen. :)
08:28 magnuse        kathryn++
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07:28 clrh           hello marcelr
07:24 marcelr        hi clrh
07:24 wahanui        bonjour, clrh
07:24 clrh           hello
07:23 marcelr        hi joubu
07:14 Joubu          hello #koha
07:05 wahanui        hey, gaetan_B
07:05 gaetan_B       hello
06:57 magnuse        hiya marcelr
06:57 marcelr        hi julian_m, matts and magnuse
06:56 * magnuse      waves
06:45 matts          hi !
06:43 wahanui        que tal, julian_m
06:43 julian_m       hello
06:41 marcelr        hi koha
06:39 wahanui        hey, reiveune
06:39 reiveune       hello
06:14 wahanui        bonjour, alex_a
06:14 alex_a         bonjour
05:11 Oak            kia ora #koha
05:10 Markus2        /nick waylon
05:03 kathryn        me and my terminal window are not well acquainted...it was fun!
05:02 cait           have a nice evening :)
05:02 cait           and about time you get your name in there :)
05:02 kathryn        hehe. have a good day!
05:01 cait           why would you be anxious? it's a perfectly fine patch :)
05:01 kathryn        hey cait you didn't give me very long to feel anxious about my first patch-baby! ;)
04:37 cait           bbl
04:32 wajasu         i'm sensitive to that. my users are on 3.0 waiting for this to work. :)
04:31 cait           so if we have a new syntax, the old one should still work
04:31 cait           it's important to not break existing workflows
04:30 cait           writing tests would be awesome too
04:30 cait           I think one after the other - but it sure makes sense to look into the bugs in that area
04:30 cait           getting ready for work
04:30 cait           sorry, just woke up
04:27 wajasu         tomorrow then.
04:25 wajasu         or do you think i need to do more signoffs first?
04:25 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7707 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Add fines placeholders in notices to display fine information on notices
04:25 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8299 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , overdue_notice.pl shows error messages
04:25 wajasu         also, i think bug 8299 will go away, because i got rid of those uninitialized errors.  and i could work on Bug 7707 now that I am so intimate with the code.
04:22 cait           wajasu: if the new patch is shortert, athat sounds good to me
04:20 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
04:20 wajasu         i am thinking i should just replace the current patch on Bug 8378 with these fixes since its really a couple of lines.
04:18 wajasu         i'm going to work on the patch tomorrow, but i have a question about how to proceed.
04:17 wajasu         that way when the inline email shows up viewable inthe mail client it will interpret correctly.
04:17 cait           cool :)
04:16 wajasu         when the email arrives, the first message has   content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" but each attachment didn't specify utf8 . So now i am seeing if I can set the attachments to have utf8 too.
04:16 wajasu         to KOHAAdminEmailAddress
04:15 wajasu         i have one case left.  when no patron email is configured, all the notices are batched up and added as an attachment.
04:15 wajasu         also using NFC made it so the symbol showed in the mysql client.
04:14 wajasu         well, i found out if i normalize using Unicode::Normailze::NFC on the currency symbol, the notice doesn't get chopped off, and the email makes it through and works.
04:13 cait           and checking the contents of the table with sql
04:13 cait           using mysql workbench
04:12 wajasu         i mean overdue_notice
04:12 wajasu         cait: when you were testing overdue rules, how were you viewing the results?  mysql select from message_queue? or getting and email?
04:04 wajasu         i wonder if we have picked a standard to store everying normalized as NFC or NFD, or NFKC or NFKD).  In this case Locale:Currency:Format currency_format was the source of out UTF.  Normalizing must have done something to make mysql happy.
04:01 wajasu         also. after using NFC, when I select the contnet using mysql, it shows the correct symbol.
03:57 wajasu         so multiple problems made the issue foggy.
03:56 wajasu         because, the first header mail had the content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"    but each attachment didn't specify utf8 .  So now i am seeing if I can set the attachments to have utf8 too.
03:55 wajasu         when the eamil was arriving in my mail client, the utf currency was seen as mobijake.  why?
03:54 wajasu         when no patron email is configured, those notices are batched up and added as an attachment to be sent to the KohaAdminEmailAddress, and
03:52 wajasu         AND the part that was confusing....
03:52 rangi          cool
03:52 wajasu         the patron emails show the correct currency.
03:51 wajasu         rangi: i found away to get mysql to not cut off the notice after utf8.   I used a Unicode::Normalize function (either NFC or NFD etc) and the whole notice gets stored.
03:46 huginn         04Bug 6190: enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Custom field removal from patron entry screens
03:46 rangi          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6190 that one?
03:41 edveal         I have a question about the  BorrowerUnwantedField system preference. Any used it yet?
02:57 wajasu         i see in my advanced search in bottom left corner, a location and availability (i.e. branch i think)
02:56 Waylon         since we could create items and asign them to branches.
02:56 Waylon         so we abused that to create libraries within the library.
02:55 Waylon         I know that in 3.0.0, i was able to limit by branch
02:55 Waylon         thats my question indeed.
02:51 wajasu         does advanced search let you choose from items catageroized as "General Stacks" i.e. the shelves.
02:18 Waylon         though.. ive been thinking, is there a way to zebra search limit to shelves?
02:18 Waylon         zebra reindexing, also indexes the items too, at runtime?
02:17 * Waylon       nods
02:17 rangi          and do a full zebra reindex
02:17 rangi          you need to run the upgrade then remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl
02:17 Waylon         yes.. 3.0.0
02:17 rangi          hold old is your db, pre 3.4 ?
02:15 Waylon         so.. i set everything up, so koha 3.8.4 works, then i replace the mysql db with my old mysql db, and then run the upgrade script?
02:09 * Waylon       did git reset --hard 3.8.4 and has everything fixed.
02:03 jcamins_away   Same version I have.
02:03 Waylon         git version 1.7.2.5
02:03 * Waylon       checks version of git.
02:03 Waylon         did delete the kohaclone..
02:03 rangi          are you should you deleted the whole kohaclone dir?
02:03 jcamins_away   There are two options I can think of here: 1) you didn't delete the kohaclone directory. 2) your version of git is so completely out of date it can't handle a modern repo.
02:03 rangi          just fyi
02:02 rangi          i get none of these errors when i checkout 3.8.x
02:02 Waylon         error: git checkout-index: unable to create file koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/images/transaction-complete.gif (File exists)
02:02 Waylon         error: git checkout-index: unable to create file koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/item_circulation_alerts.tt (File exists)
02:02 jcamins_away   Okay, I didn't really leave. You caught me.
02:02 Waylon         error: git checkout-index: unable to create file koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/element-delegate/element-delegate-min.js (File exists)
02:02 jcamins_away   Waylon: you shouldn't get file exists errors.
02:01 Waylon         I just ignore "file exists" errors?
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01:58 Waylon         okay, cloned master.. now i git checkout 3.8.x?
01:56 * jcamins_away leaves
01:56 jcamins_away   Yay for wild speculation.
01:56 * jcamins_away theorizes that you already had a git clone there, and it updated git but didn't check out master, since the repo now claimed to be pointing at the tip of master.
01:55 Waylon         recloning.
01:55 Waylon         just did.
01:55 jcamins_away   clone
01:55 jcamins_away   Waylon: did you remove the kohaclone directory before running git lcone?
01:54 rangi          part of the shift to jqueryui
01:54 jcamins_away   Thoery:
01:54 jcamins_away   rangi: ahhhh.
01:54 rangi          since the 3.8.0 release
01:54 rangi          jcamins_away: it was removed in master
01:54 rangi          good
01:53 jcamins_away   rangi: how is there a directory in 3.8.x that isn't in master?
01:53 Waylon         as per wiki.
01:53 Waylon         git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone
01:53 rangi          how are you cloning?
01:53 Waylon         removes directory and redoes clone.
01:52 rangi          you must have checked out 3.8.x previously
01:50 rangi          its not in master
01:50 rangi          where did that dir come from?
01:49 Waylon         nothing.
01:49 rangi          i dunno what you have done since you git cloned
01:49 Waylon         ah.. git reset --hard?
01:49 Waylon         this is a problem?
01:47 Waylon         hrm.
01:46 Waylon         fatal: cannot create directory at 'koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/resize/assets/skins/sam': Is a directory
01:46 rangi          and you are on it
01:46 rangi          now you have a 3.8.4 branch at that point
01:46 rangi          git checkout -b 3.8.4 v3.08.04
01:45 Waylon         hiya all! okay, git clone'd ...  but how do i rewind head, back to 3.8.4 and keep it there?
01:38 rangi          yeah it rules
01:38 jcamins_away   Archive.org++
01:23 rangi          yeah there shouldn't be
01:22 wajasu         though i read there are no issues with byte-order in utf8
01:19 wajasu         or maybe everyting is stored fine, and its the reading done in process_message_queue.pl that needs working on.
01:18 wajasu         which is the british pound.
01:18 wajasu         rangi: if the bytes written to the notice are A3C2 hex, and C2 is marker for a 2byte UTF8 sequence, maybe i need to swap the order of the bytes when written to C2A3, so when read it becomes A3.