Time  Nick        Message
22:27 rangi       meeting time brb
22:18 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 21.0°C (12:00 AM CEST on August 21, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
22:18 cait        @wunder Konstanz
22:18 cait        and closes lots of tabs
22:18 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7447 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Allow to specify a date in overdue_notice.pl
22:18 * cait      growls at bug 7447
22:11 cait        writing up my test case for wajasu now before failing
22:06 rangi       its not urgent
22:06 cait        will try before work
22:06 rangi       :)
22:06 rangi       ahh not today
22:06 cait        too late today
22:06 cait        I will have to create a new database for that
22:06 rangi       i bet its better than master
22:06 rangi       try 3.8.x
22:06 cait        yeah
22:06 rangi       in master?
22:06 cait        but it's still majorly broken :(
22:05 cait        that's good
22:05 cait        oh
22:05 rangi       so i dont need to push 8607
22:05 rangi       just master
22:05 rangi       so yeah 3.8.x doesnt have that bug
22:05 rangi       nope
22:05 rangi       actually i think 7447 isnt in 3.8
22:04 cait        I hate when we break stuff that I tested and tested and tested
22:04 rangi       ah yeah
22:04 cait        it doesn't
22:04 cait        2 letters
22:04 cait        it should have given me a first notice and a second notice
22:04 rangi       hmm ?
22:04 cait        the fix you did once... is undone
22:04 cait        but...
22:04 rangi       sweet
22:03 cait        but all items show up in the notice
22:03 cait        doesn't output fines
22:03 rangi       the upside is, we spotted 8607 doing this
22:03 cait        but the first patch works allright
22:03 cait        yeah I will
22:03 rangi       ah well, fail qa, thats better than leaving it in needs signoff
22:03 cait        it breaks the way the notices are done
22:03 cait        wajasu's patch doesn't work :(
22:03 cait        yeah
22:02 cait        Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at overdue_notices.pl line 683
22:02 rangi       good you spotted that before the release
22:02 cait        i still get errors with the patch running the script - but warnings
22:02 cait        makes sense
22:02 rangi       actually im pushing to 8607, there's no way it can work without that change
22:02 cait        yeah, you can't test the fine syntax without applying 8607 - I only have to check how broken it is without using th efine syntax changes
22:01 cait        it's not giving me a list of items, but only one item whre it should be 2
22:01 cait        worse
22:01 cait        and what's wirth
22:01 rangi       yeah it probably wont without 8607
22:01 cait        it#s still not outputting the fine
22:01 cait        for me at least
22:01 cait        because that is not working :(
22:01 cait        i have to undo the fine patch and check again
22:01 cait        yeah
22:00 rangi       it's a tiny patch (8607)
22:00 cait        but I stil have to check the contents of the messages
22:00 cait        so that's one step further from having the script explodeon me
22:00 rangi       sweet
22:00 cait        and I got messages created
21:59 cait        I got the fines
21:59 cait        working on it
21:59 rangi       can you confirm that bug 8607 works, if so ill push it to 3.8.x for 3.8.4
21:54 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8607 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , overdue_notices is broken
21:54 cait        bug 8607
21:54 cait        8607
21:53 cait        eek
21:52 * wizzyrea  likes this game
21:52 wizzyrea    mhm.
21:52 wahanui     wizzyrea: Internet outage
21:52 wizzyrea    excuse?
21:50 cait        ah... that's nice
21:50 wahanui     cait: Jupiter is aligned with Mars.
21:50 cait        excuse?
21:47 wizzyrea    oh good
21:47 rangi       thats in there
21:47 * wizzyrea  wants to add sunspots
21:47 cait        hmmm
21:47 wizzyrea    how do you add an excuse?
21:47 wahanui     cait: Someone has messed up the kernel pointers
21:47 cait        excuse?
21:47 wahanui     cait: Our ISP is having {switching,routing,SMDS,frame relay} problems
21:47 cait        excuse?
21:47 wahanui     cait: Redundant ACLs.
21:47 cait        excuse?
21:46 wizzyrea    KEKE
21:46 wahanui     wizzyrea: operation failed because: there is no message for this error (#1014)
21:46 wizzyrea    wahanui: excuse?
21:46 wizzyrea    mmmm yes
21:46 rangi       there you go
21:46 wahanui     rangi: Mouse has out-of-cheese-error
21:46 rangi       wahanui: excuse?
21:45 cait        sunspots :)
21:44 wizzyrea    yea, that usually is a cure all
21:43 wizzyrea    hehe
21:43 * wizzyrea  goes with suspots.
21:43 rangi       id try checking it out and in again
21:43 wizzyrea    3 M class ones, even.
21:43 wizzyrea    oh, we did have sunspots today
21:43 wizzyrea    sunspot
21:43 wizzyrea    or something
21:43 wizzyrea    and chalk it up to a network error.
21:43 wizzyrea    :P
21:42 wizzyrea    the simple solution to this is to just manually writeoff the $15 and lift her debarment manually.
21:42 wizzyrea    but...
21:42 wizzyrea    I wonder about checking it out to the patron again and checking it in
21:42 rangi       hehe
21:41 wizzyrea    now it just says "not checked out" - bc it is, in fact, not checked out
21:40 * wizzyrea  tries all the check in boxes
21:40 wizzyrea    but… how could they return it that it would not trigger the process.
21:39 wizzyrea    yea, precisely ^^
21:39 rangi       hmm that is weird, it should have lodged a credit balancing at zero
21:39 cait        maybe somehting with the way it was retunred?
21:39 cait        hm.
21:39 wizzyrea    the lost status was removed, ok. it was checked in, ok. but it didn't come off of the account - WEIRD.
21:38 wizzyrea    or didn't happen, as the case may be.
21:38 wizzyrea    weird. I can't explain why that happened.
21:27 cait        yeah, it was a recent thing on bugzila
21:27 cait        we are not using the lost workflow yet
21:27 wizzyrea    but I don't think that stuff is in my version
21:27 cait        or somehing, not sure
21:27 wizzyrea    yea, I think you're right
21:27 wizzyrea    well this is 3.6.4 so it could just be buggy
21:27 cait        I think it's supposed to be a syspref
21:27 rangi       hmm there were some changes around that recently, im not sure if they were pushed or not though
21:26 wizzyrea    ty - also, weird - I have an example where returning the item didn't take it off of someone's account
21:24 rangi       wizzyrea: Lost Returned
21:24 rangi       curl -s http://animals.ivolo.me/
21:24 rangi       hehe
21:22 wizzyrea    What is LR in accountlines?
21:16 cait        at least it cooled down a bit :( the thunderstorm missed us by just a little bit
21:16 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 21.0°C (11:00 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
21:16 cait        @wunder Konstanz
21:15 wizzyrea    unusual lightning.
21:15 wizzyrea    just crazy lightning
21:15 wizzyrea    oh yea, saw that - I guess there were also "freak" lightning storms in japan and taiwan
21:12 rangi       http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington-weather/7513265/Lightning-storm-hits-Wellington  (was loud last night)
21:07 jcamins     In which case we curse it frequently.
21:07 jcamins     Unless we are me.
21:07 jcamins     With the fixed default, we just don't notice that the sorting implementation is brittle.
21:06 cait        and heya jcamins :)
21:06 cait        ah cool :)
21:06 jcamins     cait: it is, but it also is a problem with the sorting.
21:06 rangi       it is, but 8012 fixes that cait
21:05 cait        I think it's maybe missing default values in sql/pref file?
21:03 wizzyrea    hehe
21:02 jcamins     Yeah, I agree.
21:02 rangi       someone should rewrite it
21:01 jcamins     Wouldn't it be nice if sorting weren't so brittle?
21:00 wizzyrea    that is precisely what I observed
21:00 wizzyrea    ya, exactly
21:00 rangi       that ^^
21:00 rangi       A little investigation showed that this value is actually initialized NULL--which you can't set in the interface--which shows "ascending."  But the actual behavior of the sort is kinda screwy by that.  To me, it makes sense to initialize the value to SOMETHING...
21:00 huginn      wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
21:00 wizzyrea    @later tell oleonard well cool, looks like there's a separate bug for that problem which means *your* patch WORKS and I'll sign off :D
21:00 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8012 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Passed QA , defaultSortOrder and OPACdefaultSortOrder are set to "ascending" on install
21:00 rangi       bug 8012
20:59 wizzyrea    okies
20:59 rangi       sounds good to me
20:59 wizzyrea    ya?
20:58 wizzyrea    oh cool - so I should not worry about that problem and sign off on this part, because it does work once the sort order is set properly
20:58 * jcamins   agrees with rangi about the existence of the bug.
20:58 * druthb    waves, and runs out.
20:58 rangi       im pretty sure i signed it off
20:58 rangi       ahh yes theres a bug for that wizzyrea
20:57 huginn      wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
20:57 wizzyrea    @later tell oleonard I found the problem I think - it looks like the default value of ascending isn't actually set - you have to switch it to another and then back to ascending, and then it works re: bug 8657
20:56 rangi       http://heimatseeker.tumblr.com/post/29743228677/soup-hub
20:53 rangi       :)
20:52 cait        but have to configure my database first.. *sigh*
20:52 cait        <fine>
20:52 cait        rangi: I will try and tackle the fine code
20:48 rangi       cya oleonard
20:48 oleonard    Gotta run. See you tomorrow #koha
20:44 oleonard    Okay, fail that puppy
20:43 wizzyrea    yea sorry, oleonard I don't think that is working :/
20:41 * druthb    cheers wizzyrea too, then hits the scroll buffer to see what we're cheerin' about.
20:41 * rangi     puts that on his to do list
20:41 rangi       i wonder if we can ask nengard to switch off the reposting of old videos, confuzzles people
20:41 * cait      cheers wizzyrea on and looks at rangi's bug suggestions
20:41 * wizzyrea  clears the cache and what not
20:40 wizzyrea    even though the prefs are set to call number
20:40 wizzyrea    I have the patch on, mine still says relevance
20:40 oleonard    Not a good sound.
20:40 wizzyrea    hrmm
20:40 oleonard    Yes
20:40 wizzyrea    ?
20:39 wizzyrea    and when you search, the drop down should say "call number"
20:38 wizzyrea    gotya
20:38 oleonard    wizzyrea: The update is only there to catch installations where they have it set to an invalid value
20:38 * wizzyrea  rolls it back and tries again
20:37 wizzyrea    it has to be set before the patch is applied - I get it
20:37 oleonard    wizzyrea: It won't do anything if your defaultSortField pref isn't set to call number
20:37 * wizzyrea  blames haarp
20:37 wizzyrea    hmm
20:37 druthb      It's quite a bit hotter than that, in my office, wizzyrea...seems to be a focussing point for the sun's rays in here somehow.
20:37 wizzyrea    no, it just doesn't do it?
20:37 oleonard    wizzyrea: :( Do you get an error?
20:36 wizzyrea    dewd, it is not that hot here
20:36 * druthb    melts a lil
20:36 rangi       i already signed off on that but it failed qa because of css stuff
20:36 huginn      druthb: The current temperature in Near Lawrence High School, Lawrence, Kansas is 31.1°C (3:33 PM CDT on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 13%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
20:36 druthb      @wunder 66046
20:36 wizzyrea    oleonard: on 8657, I can't seem to get the db update to go
20:36 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8637 critical, P1 - high, ---, christophe.croullebois, Needs Signoff , Lack of control on mandatory in orderreveive.tt
20:36 rangi       or bug 8637
20:35 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
20:35 rangi       bug 8378
20:34 cait        is there something in between?
20:34 rangi       cait: hard one or easy one?
20:34 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 21.8°C (10:30 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
20:34 cait        @wunder konstanz
20:33 cait        must have been very close
20:33 cait        that was loud thunder
20:33 cait        oh wow
20:33 cait        rangi: you can hand me a new one
20:33 cait        marcelr failed my bug
20:33 libsysguy   its got that new code smell too
20:33 cait        oh
20:32 libsysguy   lol
20:32 libsysguy   the new stuff looks so much better
20:32 libsysguy   I can't I'm too depressed now looking back at the old calendar code
20:32 rangi       hehe
20:32 rangi       you may now return to your comic book discussions
20:31 rangi       the rest of you are safe
20:31 rangi       and now ive caught up on the bug mail
20:31 libsysguy   gun slinger rangi
20:31 cait        :)
20:31 libsysguy   man he had that one ready
20:31 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8659 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Inactive funds in neworderempty not disabled in IE/Opera
20:31 rangi       you get bug 8659
20:31 oleonard    I have IE 9
20:30 * libsysguy has a mac
20:30 rangi       who has IE ?
20:29 wizzyrea    but I"ll do that one next
20:29 wizzyrea    ;)
20:29 rangi       ohh cool
20:29 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8644 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , jQueryUI CSS file should not contain customizations
20:29 * wizzyrea  is currently working on bug 8644
20:29 rangi       hehe
20:29 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8657 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Default sort by call number does not work
20:29 rangi       wizzyrea: bug 8657
20:29 wizzyrea    k ty
20:29 libsysguy   in 3.8
20:29 libsysguy   wizzyrea top search
20:28 wizzyrea    or anywhere there are tabs
20:28 wizzyrea    oleonard - an example of the jquery-ui tabs?
20:28 cait        rangi is handing out bugs :)
20:28 cait        uhoh
20:27 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8656 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Koha::Calendar not loading both sets of special dates
20:27 rangi       libsysguy: bug 8656
20:27 cait        suitcase
20:26 druthb      how I'm gonna get that dagger on a plane, though...hm.
20:25 druthb      http://porkiepuss.tumblr.com/image/16761223099  <--awesome cosplay of Pixie.  I'm there.
20:24 rangi       hehe
20:24 oleonard    Sorry rangi we're pretty swamped with this whole X-men thing
20:24 cait        it would help if someone sends me chocolate cookies...
20:24 cait        I will try to continue on th z39.50 thing before going to sleep
20:24 cait        heh
20:24 druthb      So let it be written; so let it be done.
20:24 rangi       64 bugs in need sign off, i bet we can get that below 50 by the end of the week if each person does 2
20:24 druthb      wizzyrea says it is so.
20:23 wizzyrea    let's just say it does
20:22 oleonard    Oh, there's a mutant "with the ability to easily understand any language, whether verbal or written." I wonder if that extends to programming languages?
20:21 libsysguy   why do they need so many variables
20:21 libsysguy   I blame google search
20:21 oleonard    gesundheit, libsysguy
20:21 * druthb    points the youth at various url shorteners
20:20 wizzyrea    yea, I can see that.
20:20 druthb      ahem!
20:20 libsysguy   https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=colossus&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&biw=1412&bih=1008&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=U5syUP_NHcfE2gXC0YC4Ag#um=1&hl=en&safe=off&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=x+men+last+stand+colossus&oq=x+men+last+stand+col&gs_l=img.3.0.0.2096.3053.4.3856.4.3.0.1.1.0.81.230.3.3.0...0.0...1c.LZAvmuQQMXU&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=1778fb004874edcf&biw=1412&bih=1008
20:20 druthb      Love the outfit, too.
20:20 wizzyrea    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Frost here we go - an urbane mutant telepath with a well-noted dry wit
20:19 druthb      Ah'm there!
20:19 wizzyrea    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixie_(X-Men)
20:19 druthb      !
20:19 wizzyrea    there's a "pixie"
20:19 wizzyrea    oh druthb
20:19 wizzyrea    iunno.
20:19 druthb      wizzy, you'd look...erm...majestic in that, but it looks hot and uncomfortable.
20:19 rangi       wizzyrea: i dunno thats the worst thing i could think of
20:19 wizzyrea    or something
20:18 wizzyrea    you mean like an expo
20:18 rangi       (its on at 3am nz time)
20:18 wizzyrea    booths?
20:18 rangi       and we end up with booths or something
20:18 rangi       i cant make the meeting, i deputise you all to make sure it doesnt go off the rails in some mental fashion
20:18 wizzyrea    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilandra O.o
20:18 rangi       speaking of kohacon13
20:18 druthb      hush, you.
20:18 libsysguy   sees a spandex shortage in the future
20:18 wizzyrea    outfit*
20:18 wizzyrea    umm, scratch majestrix - I would not look good in that outfig.
20:17 druthb      +1
20:17 oleonard    Okay, so KohaCon13 is a combination Koha/X-Men cosplay conference?
20:17 libsysguy   and now my day is gone
20:17 druthb      Majestrix?  Definitely fits you, wizzyrea
20:17 * druthb    would love Shadowcat's powers.  Tha'd be cool.
20:16 wizzyrea    though Lilandra, Majestrix of the Shi'ar Empire has a nice ring to it
20:16 wizzyrea    if I were more psychokinetic I'd be jean grey
20:15 libsysguy   well there is storm, gene...
20:15 druthb      Clearly thought up by some sexist *man*.  X-Men, indeed....what about X-Women, too?
20:15 libsysguy   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_(comics)
20:15 libsysguy   fine, dibs on colossus
20:15 * wizzyrea  looks up who all is in the xmen
20:14 oleonard    There aren't enough nerdy, sedentary X-men to go around
20:14 * wizzyrea  dies
20:14 cait        what about me?
20:14 libsysguy   :'(
20:14 druthb      bag is.
20:14 druthb      you're not hairy enough for that libsysguy.
20:14 wizzyrea    hehe
20:14 cait        when will you learn? :)
20:14 cait        wizzyrea: no drink and reading koha chat!
20:14 libsysguy   I want wolverine
20:14 rangi       if you guys keep breakng everything i soon will be
20:14 libsysguy   oh oh can we all have xmen names
20:14 * wizzyrea  snorts water
20:14 * druthb    wonders what role she will get.
20:13 libsysguy   rangi you're bald?
20:13 druthb      oooo...
20:13 cait        but without a wheelchair I hope?
20:13 * wizzyrea  likes this analogy
20:13 cait        lol
20:13 oleonard    rangi is Koha's Doctor Xavier
20:13 rangi       yep and cjh
20:13 libsysguy   ruine all my fun
20:13 libsysguy   damn it rangi
20:13 wizzyrea    and chris hall
20:13 rangi       they beat you by ages
20:13 druthb      cait: have you seen pictures of libsysguy?
20:13 rangi       i have the academy kids
20:12 rangi       naw
20:12 libsysguy   yup I get the youngest title now too, since pianohacker is gone
20:12 cait        not fair
20:12 wahanui     I LIKE SCIENCE and I GEEK KOHA
20:12 druthb      wahanui: wizzyrea?
20:12 cait        what hottest and youngest?
20:12 druthb      lulz
20:12 wahanui     libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck or koha's youngest developer
20:12 druthb      wahanui: libsysguy
20:11 druthb      see?
20:11 jcamins     Hey, exercise is important!
20:10 libsysguy   just like jcamins
20:10 druthb      Exercise.
20:10 libsysguy   because I'm a bad apple
20:10 cait        why would you kick him?
20:10 libsysguy   hehe
20:10 cait        oh
20:10 druthb      he's saying "we", but he's the only one who'd get kicked, by me anyway, so he must.
20:09 wizzyrea    he has a mouse in his pocket?
20:09 druthb      if by "we" you mean, yourself, and the mouse in your pocket, then yes, libsysguy.
20:09 libsysguy   we'd all be kicked
20:08 druthb      The only thing that'd be scarier is if I had an op-star.
20:08 * wizzyrea  readies the crate of trouts she keeps under her desk for just such occasions
20:08 cait        heh
20:08 libsysguy   druthb is on the loose
20:08 libsysguy   cait run
20:08 * druthb    pokes cait, to thank her for the reminder
20:07 * druthb    pokes libsysguy
20:07 cait        heh
20:07 libsysguy   catches*
20:07 * libsysguy catching skittle in mid air with teeth
20:06 libsysguy   its coming cait
20:06 cait        libsysguy: be glad yougot spared the poking phase
20:06 cait        libsysguy: she is being silly today
20:05 * druthb    gets out her slingshot, puts a red Skittle in it, and takes aim at libsysguy
20:03 libsysguy   not that anybody cares that much about closed days
20:03 libsysguy   reports++
20:03 libsysguy   I want to see events for closures on mo/we/fr
20:02 libsysguy   it could increase the efficiency of searching from the database
20:02 rangi       as long as it stores times too
20:02 libsysguy   i think it would be better for searching too
20:02 rangi       in that case a table is better
20:01 libsysguy   either way you have to take the intersection of the 2 sets
20:01 libsysguy   you would have a separate event or an exception
20:00 oleonard    cait: Yeah, and it should have been simple to split it up if there had been the will to do so
20:00 jcamins     rangi: I thought that's what this feature was for?
20:00 cait        rangi: now you getmean :)
20:00 rangi       what if your library is closed different days on different weeks
20:00 cait        oleonard: it was just untestable :(
20:00 cait        wb rangi
20:00 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5872 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Enhancements to circulation (see comment 23 for details)
20:00 * oleonard  regrets that some of the good ideas in Bug 5872 were abandoned
19:59 libsysguy   rangi ^^
19:59 rangi       back
19:58 druthb      aww...
19:58 libsysguy   I just want to make the best decision so that somebody doesn't say about me what I am saying about the person who wrote the calendar now
19:58 * jcamins   chuckles.
19:58 libsysguy   hehe
19:58 libsysguy   druthb thats not funny :'(
19:57 cait        huh?
19:57 cait        it was way too hot here today, I am still recovering from cooked brain
19:57 * druthb    loves watching the hapless youth flailing.
19:57 libsysguy   hehe
19:57 cait        :)
19:57 cait        I dunno
19:57 libsysguy   it would keep the data normal but would cost you a table
19:56 libsysguy   or I could take it a step further and create a week_days_closed table, that would only be one join
19:56 cait        but I am not the data structure expert here
19:56 cait        sounds not too bad to me :)
19:55 libsysguy   err day of the week
19:55 libsysguy   what if instead of serializing the data I just enter a column for each weekday
19:55 libsysguy   ok second thought
19:52 libsysguy   ballocs this is going to take some time to re-arrange
19:52 rangi       Brb
19:52 libsysguy   yeah joins in an already stressed db could spell disaster
19:51 libsysguy   in that case, onward and upward
19:51 jcamins     Hm, that's true about the joins.
19:51 libsysguy   ah ok
19:51 rangi       And the session uses it already
19:51 libsysguy   well that would be nice
19:51 libsysguy   ahh
19:51 rangi       It's core I think
19:50 libsysguy   Storable*
19:50 libsysguy   this will introduce a new dep I think
19:49 libsysguy   yeah I suppose it does.  I don't know of an effective way to normalize weekdays
19:49 rangi       You end up with a nightmare of joins in that case if you store each date as a row
19:48 rangi       A serialized object makes sense to me
19:48 libsysguy   since the format function croaks with spans of dates
19:48 libsysguy   then parse it to build a set of closed days
19:47 libsysguy   and I need to store a list of days
19:47 jcamins     My inner "I don't want to debug your mess" voice wants to normalize the data structure as well. :P
19:47 libsysguy   well its for the calendar, after I found out the parse function was crap
19:47 rangi       Yep
19:47 libsysguy   yeah that's probably what I should do, but my inner database junky wants to normalize the datastructure
19:46 jcamins     But I'd want to be very sure that you really wanted to store an array and weren't trying to cheat and store multiple values in one field by storing an array.
19:46 jcamins     Or you could do that.
19:46 rangi       And store that
19:46 rangi       I'd use Perl to serialise them
19:45 jcamins     What about normalizing the structure?
19:45 libsysguy   me too :-/
19:45 rangi       I hate both ideas
19:45 libsysguy   should I just store them with a delimiter or perhaps use the ENUM function?
19:44 libsysguy   anybody have protips for storing an array of strings in the database?
19:41 hankbank    verily! forsooth...this is how I feel about this our shared endeavour
19:41 jcamins     That's a good quote.
19:41 rangi       You should reply to my Tolkien quote with that
19:41 * oleonard  would have accepted that
19:40 hankbank    “O wonder!How many goodly creatures are there here!How beauteous mankind is! O brave new worldThat has such people in't!” The Tempest Act 5, scene 1, 181–184
19:40 jcamins     hankbank: which quote?
19:39 hankbank    It was either that or post a quote from shakespeare
19:38 wizzyrea    lol
19:37 hankbank    :)
19:37 oleonard    It is not necessary to prostrate yourself upon entry
19:36 hankbank    I am not worthy
19:32 cait        morning rangi
19:31 rangi       Morning
18:46 cait        [off] ah :)
18:35 chris_n     [off] I replied to the pg vs mysql email ;-)
18:29 cait        [off] oh?
18:28 chris_n     [off] obviously I failed jcamins ' test
18:26 cait        oleonard++
18:13 mib_21en8s  i m grateful for ur help.. thanx
18:11 oleonard    Administration -> System Preferences -> Enhanced Content
18:10 mib_21en8s  please specify where in preference
18:09 oleonard    does that make sense mib_21en8s ?
18:08 oleonard    Turn on the "GoogleJackets" system preference.
18:07 mib_21en8s  yes
18:07 oleonard    mib_21en8s: Do you mean book cover images from Google Books?
18:07 mib_21en8s  how to embed google page cover preview in koha
18:06 oleonard    Yes, do you have a question mib_21en8s ?
18:06 mib_21en8s  anybody online
17:13 jcamins     False alarm.
17:13 jcamins     Never mind.
17:13 jcamins     Wrong number of parentheses.
17:13 jcamins     Got it.
17:12 jcamins     I'm getting told that .html() doesn't have a replace method.
17:12 jcamins     I thought you used something like $('element').html($('element').html().replace(/text/, 'whatever'));
17:11 jcamins     oleonard: the part I'm having trouble with is replace()
17:11 oleonard    There's text(): http://api.jquery.com/text/
17:11 oleonard    Depends what you're doing
17:10 jcamins     oleonard: is there an easy way to replace text with jQuery?
16:56 mbalmer     hi #kohaistas
16:54 oleonard    Although batch item modification doesn't let you pick what framework you're using.. That's a potential friction point
16:53 jcamins     oleonard: we should.
16:51 oleonard    Should we not block deletion of subfields marked mandatory in batch item modification?
16:42 oleonard    :)
16:38 libsysguy   thanks for that oleonard
16:38 libsysguy   but now I might
16:38 libsysguy   no not that one
16:34 oleonard    Not Ko-Hails?
16:33 libsysguy   every time I see the tweetbot I read it as Koha Ails
16:27 * wizzyrea  giggles
16:27 jcamins     lol
16:27 oleonard    [off] Oh, did I fail the test?
16:26 jcamins     [off] Look how restrained I am, not responding.
15:43 tweetbot`   [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Web-Based Self Checkout in Koha 3.4 http://t.co/sAjwWLda"
15:31 tcohen      :-(
15:31 tcohen      i'm having trouble finding that 'The ' string
15:31 tcohen      kf, you're right
15:29 kf          I am melting - bbl :)
15:28 kf          so thatwould explain the difference between old and new translation
15:28 kf          I think maybe someting changed in the template - like the pref getting linked
15:26 tcohen      i hope you ignore mine :-d
15:26 kf          hm and ignore all my typos, it's entirely too warm here
15:26 kf          I think getting the parser correct to catch every possible variabtion correctly is hard :(
15:26 tcohen      I understand it kf, thanks
15:25 kf          I amnot saying that this is ideal or shoudl happen... but it can happen
15:25 kf          that's why the translation is currently wrong
15:25 kf          yep exactly
15:25 kf          http://translate.koha-community.org/es/38/translate.html?unit=3553501
15:25 tcohen      you mean it is stripped into several parts for translating them in parts instead of alltogether?
15:24 kf          sarch pootle for is set to 'Allow'
15:24 kf          I think it's ok too for other langauges
15:24 tcohen      the spanish translation for that line is ok
15:23 tcohen      <li>The <span class="link">EnhancedMessagingPreferences</span> is set to 'Allow'</li>
15:23 tcohen      the line says:
15:23 kf          and I think enhancedmessagespreferenc is linked?
15:23 kf          there are probably more strings for that line
15:23 kf          sometimes the parser doesn't get links right
15:23 kf          tcohen: the line will not get translated currently
15:23 tcohen      the thing is that the spanish translated line looks ok if you compare to the line in the file
15:22 tcohen      i just used my cloned git repo
15:22 tcohen      mm, no
15:21 kf          do you have a link to the file?
15:20 kf          sometimes the programmakes werid suggestions, but it's marked fuzzy
15:20 tcohen      if you look at that file
15:20 kf          hm I think it's probably right
15:20 kf          but it'smarked fuzzy
15:20 tcohen      looks like the line was not parsed ok
15:20 kf          hm, that doesn't look right
15:20 tcohen      intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/tools/letter.tt:84
15:19 tcohen      http://translate.koha-community.org/es/38/translate.html?unit=3553504
15:19 kf          but I can try
15:19 kf          tcohen: not sure I can help
15:19 tcohen      (parsing problem I guess)
15:18 tcohen      found a problem with the .po
15:18 tcohen      anyone related to koha-translate here?
15:15 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8657 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Default sort by call number does not work
15:15 oleonard    Bug 8657
15:06 reiveune    bye
15:02 tcohen      hi #koha
14:57 kf          thank you - it's the heat :(
14:57 oleonard    misc/crojobs/crontab.example
14:56 kf          or am I only too overheated to find it?
14:56 kf          what happend to our cronjob examples file?
14:56 kf          hm
14:52 wahanui     search faq is probably http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/
14:52 kf          search faq?
14:49 oleonard    Okay, so default sorting by call number really is broken.
14:42 kf          hotter here too - was saying 33 earlier
14:42 huginn      asaurat: Error: No such location could be found.
14:41 asaurat     @wunder Mende
14:41 eythian     it's more than 32 in the lecture theatres.
14:41 asaurat     ok, my new town is too hidden ;)
14:41 huginn      asaurat: Error: No such location could be found.
14:41 asaurat     @wunder Saint-Chely-d'Apcher
14:41 huginn      kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.6°C (4:35 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
14:40 kf          @wunder Konstanz
14:40 huginn      eythian: The current temperature in Frankfurt, Germany is 32.0°C (4:20 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
14:40 eythian     @wunder frankfurt
14:39 * kf        plunders the fridge in the kitchen and steals some more icecream there
14:39 eythian     I think this network doesn't hand over between access points
14:38 * druthb    needs moar duct tape
14:37 * druthb    did a lightning talk about Koha at ::NA, and it was well received.
14:35 druthb      dooo eeeet, eythian.
14:35 eythian     falling offline again probably
14:34 * eythian   should prepare a lightening talk for one of the sessions maybe
14:30 * druthb    is peeking in on the proceedings on irc.perl.org/#yapc
14:30 asaurat     ah, oh, yes, nice
14:30 * eythian   is at YAPC::EU
14:29 eythian     asaurat: Frankfurt :)
14:29 asaurat     free drinks ? where ??
14:29 eythian_    also free ice blocks
14:28 kf          eythian_: but free drinks - you got lucky :)
14:28 druthb      nom nom nom
14:28 * kf        hands druthb icecream so she is occupied for a while
14:28 eythian_    I think the wifi is a bit overloaded here
14:28 kf          see
14:28 * druthb    pokes kf
14:28 kf          we already have poking ruth...
14:27 kf          eythian: could you stop this jumping around?
14:27 * asaurat   dies in a painful agony
14:27 kf          asaurat: it's called radler sauer...
14:27 asaurat     beershorle ?? i hope noone did ever try this blasphemy, it would be even worse than weinschorle :p
14:27 druthb      nope.  My German is really, really bad.
14:27 kf          eythian: fwiw - I don't like sparkling water
14:26 kf          which makes it sounds like my english is really bad... :P
14:26 * druthb    finds it handy when talking to kf, occasionally.
14:26 kf          beershorle =  water with beer... hm.
14:26 * druthb    suggests that eythian might find http://dict.leo.org/ende useful.
14:26 kf          lol
14:26 asaurat     Supercalifragilisticexpialidociouschorle
14:24 eythian     not convinced those are words
14:24 asaurat     apfelschorle, warum nicht... aber weinschorle ?????
14:24 eythian     sorry for your loss of tastebuds :)
14:23 * druthb    loves sparkling water!
14:23 asaurat     :D
14:22 eythian     although this country's obsession with sparking water is bizarre, it tastes terrible
14:22 kf          :)
14:22 eythian     at this conf they're providing a large amount of free bottled water (and "apfel schorle") which is good.
14:20 * druthb    pounces on gmcharlt.
14:20 oleonard    gmcharlt poked a girl? Scandalous!
14:19 * gmcharlt  pokes druthb right back
14:19 * druthb    pokes gmcharlt
14:19 kf          not sure really
14:19 eythian     that'll keep you busy for a long time
14:19 gmcharlt    kf: is there any other kind? ;)
14:18 kf          only wondering about a weird german word :)
14:18 kf          nope
14:18 eythian     wrongwindow.com?
14:18 kf          hm.
14:18 kf          computervisualistik und design
14:18 jcamins     oleonard: no.
14:17 * oleonard  doesn't see any
14:17 oleonard    Are local cover images supposed to be working in the staff client search results?
14:17 eythian     yeah, also need to ask him about some dbix stuff later
14:16 druthb      Interesting character, isn't he?
14:16 eythian     no...?
14:16 kf          eythiandid he lift you?
14:16 druthb      :)  yay!
14:16 kf          oleonard: oups
14:15 eythian     druthb: so I just bumped into mst
14:15 oleonard    Hm, well what we seem to have is a failure to model the correct behavior kf ;)
14:15 kf          hmmm...
14:15 druthb      it might make her go away again, kf.
14:15 * kf        pokes eythian
14:14 kf          oleonard: would ignring her help or is that to cause some damage we don't want?
14:13 druthb      mhm.
14:13 oleonard    That's what my son is going to be saying before I know it
14:12 druthb      sending me there, and making sure I arrive there, are two different problems.  And I'm bigger than you are.
14:12 oleonard    Yeah that's what my kids say too
14:12 druthb      :P
14:11 * oleonard  warns druthb that if any more poking happens she will be sent to the time-out chair
14:10 kf          oleonard has kids... he will know what to do
14:10 druthb      is kinda silly-happy today.
14:10 druthb      :P
14:10 * druthb    pokes oleonard
14:09 druthb      Something like that.  Since I rarely eat dessert anyway, that dun skeer me.  Also, I've been going to bed early the last couple of nights.
14:09 kf          maybe fixing a koha bug or two
14:08 kf          no dessert and going to bed early...
14:08 oleonard    What was the pokey little puppy's comeuppance? No dessert, something like that?
14:08 huginn      kf: The current temperature in Frankfurt / M-Flughafen, Germany is 32.0°C (4:00 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
14:08 kf          @wunder frankfurt
14:08 kf          now it's the same as in frankfurt
14:07 * druthb    fans kf.
14:07 huginn      kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 33.0°C (4:00 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
14:07 kf          @wunder Konstanz
14:06 edveal      Yep...
14:06 * druthb    pokes edveal.
14:05 * druthb    is the pokey little puppy today.
14:05 kf          I was just talking to you!
14:05 druthb      :P
14:05 * druthb    pokes kf again.
14:05 kf          I only wanted to check if he is alive
14:02 * druthb    pouts
14:01 kf          druthb: now you scared him away!
14:01 * magnuse   says "ouch" and wanders off in search of dinner
14:00 * druthb    pokes magnuse and jcamins, too
14:00 * druthb    pokes kf
13:58 * kf        pokes eythian
13:52 druthb      I met him at YAPC::NA in June, and we had a wonderful time.  Talk nearly-daily since then.
13:51 asaurat     nice :)
13:51 druthb      hopefully, eythian.  :)
13:51 asaurat     and so, someone here is meeting him soon ?
13:51 * druthb    gets out the duct tape.
13:50 asaurat     indeed, he was very interested in our workflow
13:50 druthb      it could be; that's quite a weapon.  But you won't meet a nicer guy.  He's quite enthused to hear about the Koha community.
13:49 asaurat     scary :D
13:48 druthb      mhm.  quite a lot of that is planned.
13:48 asaurat     really ? he looks so spontaneous
13:47 druthb      I've come to discover that a *lot* of his apparently-random wild-man behavior is calculated; he's a deep, deep thinker, and that makes him very disarming.
13:46 asaurat     hehe
13:46 druthb      That he is, asaurat.  Surprisingly strong, for such a small, wiry man.  I'm taller than he is, and weigh...uhm...somewhat over 110kg, but he jerked me off my feet like I was a child.  Incredibly sweet guy.
13:45 asaurat     some of us met him in Strasbourg for a Perl convention, very interesting man!
13:44 asaurat1    haha, mst is awesome :D
13:44 gmcharlt    enlightened_self_interest++
13:44 huginn      gmcharlt: Quote #94: "<chris> the more i explain, the more ppl know, and the less i have to do in the future ... its purely selfish hehe" (added by kf at 08:45 AM, September 13, 2010)
13:44 gmcharlt    @quote random
13:43 druthb      He'll probably be on a crutch or cane; he recently had a fairly major hip surgery--fell on a canal tow-path, and *broke it*.   So you're probably safe from being hugged and yanked off your feet, which is what he did the first time he met me.
13:43 eythian     time to change rooms
13:43 eythian     it'd be nice to get rid of the SQL
13:43 * magnuse   has met DBIx::Class briefly in the context of Catalyst, and it does seem interesting!
13:42 eythian     druthb: cool, i'll keep my eyes open
13:42 magnuse     yay
13:42 druthb      !
13:42 huginn      druthb: The current temperature in Near Lawrence High School, Lawrence, Kansas is 15.6°C (8:39 AM CDT on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
13:42 druthb      @wunder 66046
13:41 magnuse     there you go
13:41 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
13:41 magnuse     @wunder boo
13:41 druthb      mst is one of my favorite Perl folks--and he's the honcho for the DBIx::Class project.  Nice guy, very quirky and excitable.
13:41 eythian     heh OK
13:40 druthb      eythian:  if a strange man in a kilt comes up and greets you, acting like he's known you forever....that's mst.  I told him to look for you.
13:39 eythian     DBIx::Class looks pretty good, I have to say
13:38 kf          I did... only not sure they believe me :)
13:37 eythian     tell them it's OK, I'll be back on Thursday :)
13:37 eythian     haha
13:37 kf          eythian: everybody is asking about you - they probabyl think I pushed you into the lake or something over the weekend
13:37 huginn      eythian: The current temperature in Frankfurt, Germany is 33.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
13:37 eythian     @wunder frankfurt
13:37 huginn      kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.3°C (3:30 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
13:37 kf          @wunder Konstanz
13:37 eythian     stinking hot, otherwise nice
13:37 kf          it's entirely too warm at bsz today
13:36 kf          how is frankfurt?
13:36 eythian     heh
13:36 kf          I stalked you this morning and looked at your schedule - there were slides from last year :)
13:36 eythian     yeah
13:36 kf          the dbx class presentation?
13:36 kf          hehe
13:36 eythian     It's kinda cute seeing people using "books" as an example simple data model.
13:36 kf          ?
13:34 * libsysguy goes to apply for a job at houston public library :p
13:33 libsysguy   indeed
13:33 libsysguy   it just seemed like a huge loophole for me
13:33 oleonard    Sounds like an experiment is required
13:33 libsysguy   ahh ok
13:32 oleonard    I'm not sure, because I don't see the circulation end of things much
13:31 oleonard    Oh right.
13:31 libsysguy   well to release to other patrons
13:31 oleonard    libsysguy: What do you mean by "for circ" ?
13:30 oleonard    Sorry, afk
13:28 wizzyrea    well I'm not sure either, and I don't have overdrive anymore
13:27 libsysguy   but I wasn't sure how the DRM worked
13:27 libsysguy   that is what I thought too
13:27 wizzyrea    on the date due
13:27 wizzyrea    and what I mean is - even if the book getting "checked in" on the kindle doesn't work, I suspect that overdrive still makes it available to other patrons
13:26 wizzyrea    but I don't know that for certain
13:26 wizzyrea    overdrive is going to expire that book
13:26 wizzyrea    my thought is that it doesn't matter if the DRM works on the end user device
13:24 libsysguy   but I wasn't sure if the system returned the item for circ or not
13:24 libsysguy   I had a friend tell me if you turned the wifi off before the return date you could keep the book as long as you want
13:23 libsysguy   well I was wondering how returns work for kindles
13:23 wizzyrea    oleonard might though
13:23 libsysguy   ah
13:23 wizzyrea    i may not know the answer to that, we gave up overdrive a year or so ago
13:22 libsysguy   hey oleonard and wizzyrea I have a question about overdrive
13:21 wizzyrea    !
13:21 wizzyrea    heya1
13:21 * druthb    waves with both hands.
13:21 druthb      hi, oleonard and wizzyrea! :D
13:19 wizzyrea    hi oleonard
13:19 oleonard    Hi #koha
13:19 * wizzyrea  waves
12:48 magnuse     well, i actually i don't know enough about perl6 to know if it would be a good idea or not...
12:39 jcamins     lol
12:37 magnuse     yay! ;-)
12:36 druthb      he'll have it done before lunch, magnuse.  He's just like that.
12:34 magnuse     jcamins: you up for it? ;-)
12:18 jcamins     I saw that.
12:18 magnuse     probably unreliable wifi
12:17 magnuse     yeah, he dropped by briefly
12:16 kf          oh, was he here?
12:15 magnuse     jcamins: eythian wants you to rewrite koha in perl6 ;-)
12:15 magnuse     kia ora jcamins
12:12 kf          hi jcamins
12:11 marcelr     hi jcamins
12:11 kf          hi #kohq
12:10 jcamins     Good morning, #koha.
10:42 kf          back :)
10:18 * magnuse   envies eythian a little
09:43 * eythian   is watching Larry Wall demonstrate Perl 6. I propose jcamins_away converts Koha to it.
09:28 saa         i am trying to configure koha 3.8.3 on livecd but cpan perl modules are not getting configureed especially Readonly::XS on ubuntu 10.4 LTS. it gives compilation error of DateTime. Is there any way out to solve this problem
08:57 kf          recreate any translations you might have had
08:57 kf          run the script fromt he release notes... run the database update
08:57 kf          and load the databasedump
08:57 kf          install
08:40 Waylon      okay, i want to install 3.8.3 and upgrade a database from 3.0.0 ... what do i use/do?
08:39 kf          hi Waylon
08:39 Waylon      Hello all!
08:25 marcelr     :)
08:23 kf          hi marcelr :)
08:21 gaetan_B    hello :)
07:59 marcelr     hi kf
07:40 kf          good morning rangi, magnuse
07:40 rangi       hi kf
07:40 kf          good morning #koha
07:40 * kf        waves
07:40 magnuse     wb kf
07:40 magnuse     rangi: yeah, that's what i thought
07:27 rangi       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96vH_nfXsI8&feature=plcp
07:27 rangi       magnuse: in the next day or 2
07:16 sophie_m1   hello #koha
07:15 magnuse     or maybe i should ask fredericd that...
07:14 magnuse     rangi around? when should translations be done to make it into 3.8.4?
07:08 mbalmer     allo marseille!
07:05 reiveune    hi magnuse :)
07:05 magnuse     bonjour reiveune
06:59 reiveune    hello
06:53 mveron      Hi asaurat and wahanui  :-)
06:51 cait        brb
06:51 cait        hi asaurat :)
06:51 cait        speaking of work, I should go there
06:51 wahanui     que tal, asaurat
06:51 asaurat     hi
06:51 cait        heh
06:48 * mveron    would like to have a waterproof notebook with big display or under water beamer...
06:48 cait        :)
06:47 cait        doesn't help much at work
06:47 mveron      Hi cait, at least you have the lake of Konstanz  :-)
06:45 cait        I agree about it being too warm :( or it will be soon according to the weather report
06:45 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 20.6°C (8:40 AM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
06:45 cait        @wunder konstanz
06:45 huginn      mveron: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 25.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
06:45 mveron      @wunder Marseille
06:45 huginn      mveron: Error: No such location could be found.
06:45 mveron      @wunder Marseiller
06:41 julian_m    hello mveron
06:41 mveron      hi julian_m
06:40 julian_m    hi marcelr
06:40 marcelr     hi julian_m
06:39 julian_m    hello
06:36 marcelr     :-)
06:36 huginn      mveron: Error: No such location could be found.
06:36 mveron      @wunder Amsterdam
06:35 marcelr     goedemorgen mveron
06:35 * mveron    Ponders to travel to Norway...  To hot here today...
06:34 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
06:34 magnuse     @wunder boo
06:34 huginn      mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 21.6°C (8:31 AM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
06:34 mveron      @wunder Basel
06:33 mveron      ...to work in the cool morning time...
06:33 magnuse     europe waking up...
06:33 mveron      Bonjour alex_a
06:33 magnuse     kia ora marcelr and alex_a
06:32 alex_a      bonjour #koha !
06:31 mveron      Daag marcelr :-)  Hoe is het ermee?
06:30 marcelr     hi koha
06:28 mveron      :-)
06:28 magnuse     mveron: impressive! :-)
06:27 mveron      ...and good morning!  :-)
06:27 mveron      magnuse: Swiss precision...
06:27 magnuse     hiya mveron and mbalmer - you are synchronized today? ;-)
06:26 mveron      Hi mbalmer :-)
06:25 mbalmer     Good morning #koha
06:24 mveron      Good morning #koha
06:20 * magnuse   waves
06:08 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.