Time  Nick        Message
06:08 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
06:20 * magnuse   waves
06:24 mveron      Good morning #koha
06:25 mbalmer     Good morning #koha
06:26 mveron      Hi mbalmer :-)
06:27 magnuse     hiya mveron and mbalmer - you are synchronized today? ;-)
06:27 mveron      magnuse: Swiss precision...
06:27 mveron      ...and good morning!  :-)
06:28 magnuse     mveron: impressive! :-)
06:28 mveron      :-)
06:30 marcelr     hi koha
06:31 mveron      Daag marcelr :-)  Hoe is het ermee?
06:32 alex_a      bonjour #koha !
06:33 magnuse     kia ora marcelr and alex_a
06:33 mveron      Bonjour alex_a
06:33 magnuse     europe waking up...
06:33 mveron      ...to work in the cool morning time...
06:34 mveron      @wunder Basel
06:34 huginn      mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 21.6°C (8:31 AM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
06:34 magnuse     @wunder boo
06:34 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
06:35 * mveron    Ponders to travel to Norway...  To hot here today...
06:35 marcelr     goedemorgen mveron
06:36 mveron      @wunder Amsterdam
06:36 huginn      mveron: Error: No such location could be found.
06:36 marcelr     :-)
06:39 julian_m    hello
06:40 marcelr     hi julian_m
06:40 julian_m    hi marcelr
06:41 mveron      hi julian_m
06:41 julian_m    hello mveron
06:45 mveron      @wunder Marseiller
06:45 huginn      mveron: Error: No such location could be found.
06:45 mveron      @wunder Marseille
06:45 huginn      mveron: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 25.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
06:45 cait        @wunder konstanz
06:45 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 20.6°C (8:40 AM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
06:45 cait        I agree about it being too warm :( or it will be soon according to the weather report
06:47 mveron      Hi cait, at least you have the lake of Konstanz  :-)
06:47 cait        doesn't help much at work
06:48 cait        :)
06:48 * mveron    would like to have a waterproof notebook with big display or under water beamer...
06:51 cait        heh
06:51 asaurat     hi
06:51 wahanui     que tal, asaurat
06:51 cait        speaking of work, I should go there
06:51 cait        hi asaurat :)
06:51 cait        brb
06:53 mveron      Hi asaurat and wahanui  :-)
06:59 reiveune    hello
07:05 magnuse     bonjour reiveune
07:05 reiveune    hi magnuse :)
07:08 mbalmer     allo marseille!
07:14 magnuse     rangi around? when should translations be done to make it into 3.8.4?
07:15 magnuse     or maybe i should ask fredericd that...
07:16 sophie_m1   hello #koha
07:27 rangi       magnuse: in the next day or 2
07:27 rangi       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96vH_nfXsI8&feature=plcp
07:40 magnuse     rangi: yeah, that's what i thought
07:40 magnuse     wb kf
07:40 * kf        waves
07:40 kf          good morning #koha
07:40 rangi       hi kf
07:40 kf          good morning rangi, magnuse
07:59 marcelr     hi kf
08:21 gaetan_B    hello :)
08:23 kf          hi marcelr :)
08:25 marcelr     :)
08:39 Waylon      Hello all!
08:39 kf          hi Waylon
08:40 Waylon      okay, i want to install 3.8.3 and upgrade a database from 3.0.0 ... what do i use/do?
08:57 kf          install
08:57 kf          and load the databasedump
08:57 kf          run the script fromt he release notes... run the database update
08:57 kf          recreate any translations you might have had
09:28 saa         i am trying to configure koha 3.8.3 on livecd but cpan perl modules are not getting configureed especially Readonly::XS on ubuntu 10.4 LTS. it gives compilation error of DateTime. Is there any way out to solve this problem
09:43 * eythian   is watching Larry Wall demonstrate Perl 6. I propose jcamins_away converts Koha to it.
10:18 * magnuse   envies eythian a little
10:42 kf          back :)
12:10 jcamins     Good morning, #koha.
12:11 kf          hi #kohq
12:11 marcelr     hi jcamins
12:12 kf          hi jcamins
12:15 magnuse     kia ora jcamins
12:15 magnuse     jcamins: eythian wants you to rewrite koha in perl6 ;-)
12:16 kf          oh, was he here?
12:17 magnuse     yeah, he dropped by briefly
12:18 magnuse     probably unreliable wifi
12:18 jcamins     I saw that.
12:34 magnuse     jcamins: you up for it? ;-)
12:36 druthb      he'll have it done before lunch, magnuse.  He's just like that.
12:37 magnuse     yay! ;-)
12:39 jcamins     lol
12:48 magnuse     well, i actually i don't know enough about perl6 to know if it would be a good idea or not...
13:19 * wizzyrea  waves
13:19 oleonard    Hi #koha
13:19 wizzyrea    hi oleonard
13:21 druthb      hi, oleonard and wizzyrea! :D
13:21 * druthb    waves with both hands.
13:21 wizzyrea    heya1
13:21 wizzyrea    !
13:22 libsysguy   hey oleonard and wizzyrea I have a question about overdrive
13:23 wizzyrea    i may not know the answer to that, we gave up overdrive a year or so ago
13:23 libsysguy   ah
13:23 wizzyrea    oleonard might though
13:23 libsysguy   well I was wondering how returns work for kindles
13:24 libsysguy   I had a friend tell me if you turned the wifi off before the return date you could keep the book as long as you want
13:24 libsysguy   but I wasn't sure if the system returned the item for circ or not
13:26 wizzyrea    my thought is that it doesn't matter if the DRM works on the end user device
13:26 wizzyrea    overdrive is going to expire that book
13:26 wizzyrea    but I don't know that for certain
13:27 wizzyrea    and what I mean is - even if the book getting "checked in" on the kindle doesn't work, I suspect that overdrive still makes it available to other patrons
13:27 wizzyrea    on the date due
13:27 libsysguy   that is what I thought too
13:27 libsysguy   but I wasn't sure how the DRM worked
13:28 wizzyrea    well I'm not sure either, and I don't have overdrive anymore
13:30 oleonard    Sorry, afk
13:31 oleonard    libsysguy: What do you mean by "for circ" ?
13:31 libsysguy   well to release to other patrons
13:31 oleonard    Oh right.
13:32 oleonard    I'm not sure, because I don't see the circulation end of things much
13:33 libsysguy   ahh ok
13:33 oleonard    Sounds like an experiment is required
13:33 libsysguy   it just seemed like a huge loophole for me
13:33 libsysguy   indeed
13:34 * libsysguy goes to apply for a job at houston public library :p
13:36 kf          ?
13:36 eythian     It's kinda cute seeing people using "books" as an example simple data model.
13:36 kf          hehe
13:36 kf          the dbx class presentation?
13:36 eythian     yeah
13:36 kf          I stalked you this morning and looked at your schedule - there were slides from last year :)
13:36 eythian     heh
13:36 kf          how is frankfurt?
13:37 kf          it's entirely too warm at bsz today
13:37 eythian     stinking hot, otherwise nice
13:37 kf          @wunder Konstanz
13:37 huginn      kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.3°C (3:30 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
13:37 eythian     @wunder frankfurt
13:37 huginn      eythian: The current temperature in Frankfurt, Germany is 33.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
13:37 kf          eythian: everybody is asking about you - they probabyl think I pushed you into the lake or something over the weekend
13:37 eythian     haha
13:37 eythian     tell them it's OK, I'll be back on Thursday :)
13:38 kf          I did... only not sure they believe me :)
13:39 eythian     DBIx::Class looks pretty good, I have to say
13:40 druthb      eythian:  if a strange man in a kilt comes up and greets you, acting like he's known you forever....that's mst.  I told him to look for you.
13:41 eythian     heh OK
13:41 druthb      mst is one of my favorite Perl folks--and he's the honcho for the DBIx::Class project.  Nice guy, very quirky and excitable.
13:41 magnuse     @wunder boo
13:41 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
13:41 magnuse     there you go
13:42 druthb      @wunder 66046
13:42 huginn      druthb: The current temperature in Near Lawrence High School, Lawrence, Kansas is 15.6°C (8:39 AM CDT on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
13:42 druthb      !
13:42 magnuse     yay
13:42 eythian     druthb: cool, i'll keep my eyes open
13:43 * magnuse   has met DBIx::Class briefly in the context of Catalyst, and it does seem interesting!
13:43 eythian     it'd be nice to get rid of the SQL
13:43 eythian     time to change rooms
13:43 druthb      He'll probably be on a crutch or cane; he recently had a fairly major hip surgery--fell on a canal tow-path, and *broke it*.   So you're probably safe from being hugged and yanked off your feet, which is what he did the first time he met me.
13:44 gmcharlt    @quote random
13:44 huginn      gmcharlt: Quote #94: "<chris> the more i explain, the more ppl know, and the less i have to do in the future ... its purely selfish hehe" (added by kf at 08:45 AM, September 13, 2010)
13:44 gmcharlt    enlightened_self_interest++
13:44 asaurat1    haha, mst is awesome :D
13:45 asaurat     some of us met him in Strasbourg for a Perl convention, very interesting man!
13:46 druthb      That he is, asaurat.  Surprisingly strong, for such a small, wiry man.  I'm taller than he is, and weigh...uhm...somewhat over 110kg, but he jerked me off my feet like I was a child.  Incredibly sweet guy.
13:46 asaurat     hehe
13:47 druthb      I've come to discover that a *lot* of his apparently-random wild-man behavior is calculated; he's a deep, deep thinker, and that makes him very disarming.
13:48 asaurat     really ? he looks so spontaneous
13:48 druthb      mhm.  quite a lot of that is planned.
13:49 asaurat     scary :D
13:50 druthb      it could be; that's quite a weapon.  But you won't meet a nicer guy.  He's quite enthused to hear about the Koha community.
13:50 asaurat     indeed, he was very interested in our workflow
13:51 * druthb    gets out the duct tape.
13:51 asaurat     and so, someone here is meeting him soon ?
13:51 druthb      hopefully, eythian.  :)
13:51 asaurat     nice :)
13:52 druthb      I met him at YAPC::NA in June, and we had a wonderful time.  Talk nearly-daily since then.
13:58 * kf        pokes eythian
14:00 * druthb    pokes kf
14:00 * druthb    pokes magnuse and jcamins, too
14:01 * magnuse   says "ouch" and wanders off in search of dinner
14:01 kf          druthb: now you scared him away!
14:02 * druthb    pouts
14:05 kf          I only wanted to check if he is alive
14:05 * druthb    pokes kf again.
14:05 druthb      :P
14:05 kf          I was just talking to you!
14:05 * druthb    is the pokey little puppy today.
14:06 * druthb    pokes edveal.
14:06 edveal      Yep...
14:07 kf          @wunder Konstanz
14:07 huginn      kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 33.0°C (4:00 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
14:07 * druthb    fans kf.
14:08 kf          now it's the same as in frankfurt
14:08 kf          @wunder frankfurt
14:08 huginn      kf: The current temperature in Frankfurt / M-Flughafen, Germany is 32.0°C (4:00 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
14:08 oleonard    What was the pokey little puppy's comeuppance? No dessert, something like that?
14:08 kf          no dessert and going to bed early...
14:09 kf          maybe fixing a koha bug or two
14:09 druthb      Something like that.  Since I rarely eat dessert anyway, that dun skeer me.  Also, I've been going to bed early the last couple of nights.
14:10 * druthb    pokes oleonard
14:10 druthb      :P
14:10 druthb      is kinda silly-happy today.
14:10 kf          oleonard has kids... he will know what to do
14:11 * oleonard  warns druthb that if any more poking happens she will be sent to the time-out chair
14:12 druthb      :P
14:12 oleonard    Yeah that's what my kids say too
14:12 druthb      sending me there, and making sure I arrive there, are two different problems.  And I'm bigger than you are.
14:13 oleonard    That's what my son is going to be saying before I know it
14:13 druthb      mhm.
14:14 kf          oleonard: would ignring her help or is that to cause some damage we don't want?
14:15 * kf        pokes eythian
14:15 druthb      it might make her go away again, kf.
14:15 kf          hmmm...
14:15 oleonard    Hm, well what we seem to have is a failure to model the correct behavior kf ;)
14:15 eythian     druthb: so I just bumped into mst
14:16 kf          oleonard: oups
14:16 druthb      :)  yay!
14:16 kf          eythiandid he lift you?
14:16 eythian     no...?
14:16 druthb      Interesting character, isn't he?
14:17 eythian     yeah, also need to ask him about some dbix stuff later
14:17 oleonard    Are local cover images supposed to be working in the staff client search results?
14:17 * oleonard  doesn't see any
14:18 jcamins     oleonard: no.
14:18 kf          computervisualistik und design
14:18 kf          hm.
14:18 eythian     wrongwindow.com?
14:18 kf          nope
14:18 kf          only wondering about a weird german word :)
14:19 gmcharlt    kf: is there any other kind? ;)
14:19 eythian     that'll keep you busy for a long time
14:19 kf          not sure really
14:19 * druthb    pokes gmcharlt
14:19 * gmcharlt  pokes druthb right back
14:20 oleonard    gmcharlt poked a girl? Scandalous!
14:20 * druthb    pounces on gmcharlt.
14:22 eythian     at this conf they're providing a large amount of free bottled water (and "apfel schorle") which is good.
14:22 kf          :)
14:22 eythian     although this country's obsession with sparking water is bizarre, it tastes terrible
14:23 asaurat     :D
14:23 * druthb    loves sparkling water!
14:24 eythian     sorry for your loss of tastebuds :)
14:24 asaurat     apfelschorle, warum nicht... aber weinschorle ?????
14:24 eythian     not convinced those are words
14:26 asaurat     Supercalifragilisticexpialidociouschorle
14:26 kf          lol
14:26 * druthb    suggests that eythian might find http://dict.leo.org/ende useful.
14:26 kf          beershorle =  water with beer... hm.
14:26 * druthb    finds it handy when talking to kf, occasionally.
14:26 kf          which makes it sounds like my english is really bad... :P
14:27 kf          eythian: fwiw - I don't like sparkling water
14:27 druthb      nope.  My German is really, really bad.
14:27 asaurat     beershorle ?? i hope noone did ever try this blasphemy, it would be even worse than weinschorle :p
14:27 kf          asaurat: it's called radler sauer...
14:27 * asaurat   dies in a painful agony
14:27 kf          eythian: could you stop this jumping around?
14:28 kf          we already have poking ruth...
14:28 * druthb    pokes kf
14:28 kf          see
14:28 eythian_    I think the wifi is a bit overloaded here
14:28 * kf        hands druthb icecream so she is occupied for a while
14:28 druthb      nom nom nom
14:28 kf          eythian_: but free drinks - you got lucky :)
14:29 eythian_    also free ice blocks
14:29 asaurat     free drinks ? where ??
14:29 eythian     asaurat: Frankfurt :)
14:30 * eythian   is at YAPC::EU
14:30 asaurat     ah, oh, yes, nice
14:30 * druthb    is peeking in on the proceedings on irc.perl.org/#yapc
14:34 * eythian   should prepare a lightening talk for one of the sessions maybe
14:35 eythian     falling offline again probably
14:35 druthb      dooo eeeet, eythian.
14:37 * druthb    did a lightning talk about Koha at ::NA, and it was well received.
14:38 * druthb    needs moar duct tape
14:39 eythian     I think this network doesn't hand over between access points
14:39 * kf        plunders the fridge in the kitchen and steals some more icecream there
14:40 eythian     @wunder frankfurt
14:40 huginn      eythian: The current temperature in Frankfurt, Germany is 32.0°C (4:20 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
14:40 kf          @wunder Konstanz
14:41 huginn      kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.6°C (4:35 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
14:41 asaurat     @wunder Saint-Chely-d'Apcher
14:41 huginn      asaurat: Error: No such location could be found.
14:41 asaurat     ok, my new town is too hidden ;)
14:41 eythian     it's more than 32 in the lecture theatres.
14:41 asaurat     @wunder Mende
14:42 huginn      asaurat: Error: No such location could be found.
14:42 kf          hotter here too - was saying 33 earlier
14:49 oleonard    Okay, so default sorting by call number really is broken.
14:52 kf          search faq?
14:52 wahanui     search faq is probably http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/
14:56 kf          hm
14:56 kf          what happend to our cronjob examples file?
14:56 kf          or am I only too overheated to find it?
14:57 oleonard    misc/crojobs/crontab.example
14:57 kf          thank you - it's the heat :(
15:02 tcohen      hi #koha
15:06 reiveune    bye
15:15 oleonard    Bug 8657
15:15 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8657 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Default sort by call number does not work
15:18 tcohen      anyone related to koha-translate here?
15:18 tcohen      found a problem with the .po
15:19 tcohen      (parsing problem I guess)
15:19 kf          tcohen: not sure I can help
15:19 kf          but I can try
15:19 tcohen      http://translate.koha-community.org/es/38/translate.html?unit=3553504
15:20 tcohen      intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/tools/letter.tt:84
15:20 kf          hm, that doesn't look right
15:20 tcohen      looks like the line was not parsed ok
15:20 kf          but it'smarked fuzzy
15:20 kf          hm I think it's probably right
15:20 tcohen      if you look at that file
15:20 kf          sometimes the programmakes werid suggestions, but it's marked fuzzy
15:21 kf          do you have a link to the file?
15:22 tcohen      mm, no
15:22 tcohen      i just used my cloned git repo
15:23 tcohen      the thing is that the spanish translated line looks ok if you compare to the line in the file
15:23 kf          tcohen: the line will not get translated currently
15:23 kf          sometimes the parser doesn't get links right
15:23 kf          there are probably more strings for that line
15:23 kf          and I think enhancedmessagespreferenc is linked?
15:23 tcohen      the line says:
15:23 tcohen      <li>The <span class="link">EnhancedMessagingPreferences</span> is set to 'Allow'</li>
15:24 tcohen      the spanish translation for that line is ok
15:24 kf          I think it's ok too for other langauges
15:24 kf          sarch pootle for is set to 'Allow'
15:25 tcohen      you mean it is stripped into several parts for translating them in parts instead of alltogether?
15:25 kf          http://translate.koha-community.org/es/38/translate.html?unit=3553501
15:25 kf          yep exactly
15:25 kf          that's why the translation is currently wrong
15:25 kf          I amnot saying that this is ideal or shoudl happen... but it can happen
15:26 tcohen      I understand it kf, thanks
15:26 kf          I think getting the parser correct to catch every possible variabtion correctly is hard :(
15:26 kf          hm and ignore all my typos, it's entirely too warm here
15:26 tcohen      i hope you ignore mine :-d
15:28 kf          I think maybe someting changed in the template - like the pref getting linked
15:28 kf          so thatwould explain the difference between old and new translation
15:29 kf          I am melting - bbl :)
15:31 tcohen      kf, you're right
15:31 tcohen      i'm having trouble finding that 'The ' string
15:31 tcohen      :-(
15:43 tweetbot`   [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Web-Based Self Checkout in Koha 3.4 http://t.co/sAjwWLda"
16:26 jcamins     [off] Look how restrained I am, not responding.
16:27 oleonard    [off] Oh, did I fail the test?
16:27 jcamins     lol
16:27 * wizzyrea  giggles
16:33 libsysguy   every time I see the tweetbot I read it as Koha Ails
16:34 oleonard    Not Ko-Hails?
16:38 libsysguy   no not that one
16:38 libsysguy   but now I might
16:38 libsysguy   thanks for that oleonard
16:42 oleonard    :)
16:51 oleonard    Should we not block deletion of subfields marked mandatory in batch item modification?
16:53 jcamins     oleonard: we should.
16:54 oleonard    Although batch item modification doesn't let you pick what framework you're using.. That's a potential friction point
16:56 mbalmer     hi #kohaistas
17:10 jcamins     oleonard: is there an easy way to replace text with jQuery?
17:11 oleonard    Depends what you're doing
17:11 oleonard    There's text(): http://api.jquery.com/text/
17:11 jcamins     oleonard: the part I'm having trouble with is replace()
17:12 jcamins     I thought you used something like $('element').html($('element').html().replace(/text/, 'whatever'));
17:12 jcamins     I'm getting told that .html() doesn't have a replace method.
17:13 jcamins     Got it.
17:13 jcamins     Wrong number of parentheses.
17:13 jcamins     Never mind.
17:13 jcamins     False alarm.
18:06 mib_21en8s  anybody online
18:06 oleonard    Yes, do you have a question mib_21en8s ?
18:07 mib_21en8s  how to embed google page cover preview in koha
18:07 oleonard    mib_21en8s: Do you mean book cover images from Google Books?
18:07 mib_21en8s  yes
18:08 oleonard    Turn on the "GoogleJackets" system preference.
18:09 oleonard    does that make sense mib_21en8s ?
18:10 mib_21en8s  please specify where in preference
18:11 oleonard    Administration -> System Preferences -> Enhanced Content
18:13 mib_21en8s  i m grateful for ur help.. thanx
18:26 cait        oleonard++
18:28 chris_n     [off] obviously I failed jcamins ' test
18:29 cait        [off] oh?
18:35 chris_n     [off] I replied to the pg vs mysql email ;-)
18:46 cait        [off] ah :)
19:31 rangi       Morning
19:32 cait        morning rangi
19:36 hankbank    I am not worthy
19:37 oleonard    It is not necessary to prostrate yourself upon entry
19:37 hankbank    :)
19:38 wizzyrea    lol
19:39 hankbank    It was either that or post a quote from shakespeare
19:40 jcamins     hankbank: which quote?
19:40 hankbank    “O wonder!How many goodly creatures are there here!How beauteous mankind is! O brave new worldThat has such people in't!” The Tempest Act 5, scene 1, 181–184
19:41 * oleonard  would have accepted that
19:41 rangi       You should reply to my Tolkien quote with that
19:41 jcamins     That's a good quote.
19:41 hankbank    verily! forsooth...this is how I feel about this our shared endeavour
19:44 libsysguy   anybody have protips for storing an array of strings in the database?
19:45 libsysguy   should I just store them with a delimiter or perhaps use the ENUM function?
19:45 rangi       I hate both ideas
19:45 libsysguy   me too :-/
19:45 jcamins     What about normalizing the structure?
19:46 rangi       I'd use Perl to serialise them
19:46 rangi       And store that
19:46 jcamins     Or you could do that.
19:46 jcamins     But I'd want to be very sure that you really wanted to store an array and weren't trying to cheat and store multiple values in one field by storing an array.
19:47 libsysguy   yeah that's probably what I should do, but my inner database junky wants to normalize the datastructure
19:47 rangi       Yep
19:47 libsysguy   well its for the calendar, after I found out the parse function was crap
19:47 jcamins     My inner "I don't want to debug your mess" voice wants to normalize the data structure as well. :P
19:47 libsysguy   and I need to store a list of days
19:48 libsysguy   then parse it to build a set of closed days
19:48 libsysguy   since the format function croaks with spans of dates
19:48 rangi       A serialized object makes sense to me
19:49 rangi       You end up with a nightmare of joins in that case if you store each date as a row
19:49 libsysguy   yeah I suppose it does.  I don't know of an effective way to normalize weekdays
19:50 libsysguy   this will introduce a new dep I think
19:50 libsysguy   Storable*
19:51 rangi       It's core I think
19:51 libsysguy   ahh
19:51 libsysguy   well that would be nice
19:51 rangi       And the session uses it already
19:51 libsysguy   ah ok
19:51 jcamins     Hm, that's true about the joins.
19:51 libsysguy   in that case, onward and upward
19:52 libsysguy   yeah joins in an already stressed db could spell disaster
19:52 rangi       Brb
19:52 libsysguy   ballocs this is going to take some time to re-arrange
19:55 libsysguy   ok second thought
19:55 libsysguy   what if instead of serializing the data I just enter a column for each weekday
19:55 libsysguy   err day of the week
19:56 cait        sounds not too bad to me :)
19:56 cait        but I am not the data structure expert here
19:56 libsysguy   or I could take it a step further and create a week_days_closed table, that would only be one join
19:57 libsysguy   it would keep the data normal but would cost you a table
19:57 cait        I dunno
19:57 cait        :)
19:57 libsysguy   hehe
19:57 * druthb    loves watching the hapless youth flailing.
19:57 cait        it was way too hot here today, I am still recovering from cooked brain
19:57 cait        huh?
19:58 libsysguy   druthb thats not funny :'(
19:58 libsysguy   hehe
19:58 * jcamins   chuckles.
19:58 libsysguy   I just want to make the best decision so that somebody doesn't say about me what I am saying about the person who wrote the calendar now
19:58 druthb      aww...
19:59 rangi       back
19:59 libsysguy   rangi ^^
20:00 * oleonard  regrets that some of the good ideas in Bug 5872 were abandoned
20:00 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5872 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Enhancements to circulation (see comment 23 for details)
20:00 cait        wb rangi
20:00 cait        oleonard: it was just untestable :(
20:00 rangi       what if your library is closed different days on different weeks
20:00 cait        rangi: now you getmean :)
20:00 jcamins     rangi: I thought that's what this feature was for?
20:00 oleonard    cait: Yeah, and it should have been simple to split it up if there had been the will to do so
20:01 libsysguy   you would have a separate event or an exception
20:01 libsysguy   either way you have to take the intersection of the 2 sets
20:02 rangi       in that case a table is better
20:02 libsysguy   i think it would be better for searching too
20:02 rangi       as long as it stores times too
20:02 libsysguy   it could increase the efficiency of searching from the database
20:03 libsysguy   I want to see events for closures on mo/we/fr
20:03 libsysguy   reports++
20:03 libsysguy   not that anybody cares that much about closed days
20:05 * druthb    gets out her slingshot, puts a red Skittle in it, and takes aim at libsysguy
20:06 cait        libsysguy: she is being silly today
20:06 cait        libsysguy: be glad yougot spared the poking phase
20:06 libsysguy   its coming cait
20:07 * libsysguy catching skittle in mid air with teeth
20:07 libsysguy   catches*
20:07 cait        heh
20:07 * druthb    pokes libsysguy
20:08 * druthb    pokes cait, to thank her for the reminder
20:08 libsysguy   cait run
20:08 libsysguy   druthb is on the loose
20:08 cait        heh
20:08 * wizzyrea  readies the crate of trouts she keeps under her desk for just such occasions
20:08 druthb      The only thing that'd be scarier is if I had an op-star.
20:09 libsysguy   we'd all be kicked
20:09 druthb      if by "we" you mean, yourself, and the mouse in your pocket, then yes, libsysguy.
20:09 wizzyrea    he has a mouse in his pocket?
20:10 druthb      he's saying "we", but he's the only one who'd get kicked, by me anyway, so he must.
20:10 cait        oh
20:10 libsysguy   hehe
20:10 cait        why would you kick him?
20:10 libsysguy   because I'm a bad apple
20:10 druthb      Exercise.
20:10 libsysguy   just like jcamins
20:11 jcamins     Hey, exercise is important!
20:11 druthb      see?
20:12 druthb      wahanui: libsysguy
20:12 wahanui     libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck or koha's youngest developer
20:12 druthb      lulz
20:12 cait        what hottest and youngest?
20:12 druthb      wahanui: wizzyrea?
20:12 wahanui     I LIKE SCIENCE and I GEEK KOHA
20:12 cait        not fair
20:12 libsysguy   yup I get the youngest title now too, since pianohacker is gone
20:12 rangi       naw
20:13 rangi       i have the academy kids
20:13 druthb      cait: have you seen pictures of libsysguy?
20:13 rangi       they beat you by ages
20:13 wizzyrea    and chris hall
20:13 libsysguy   damn it rangi
20:13 libsysguy   ruine all my fun
20:13 rangi       yep and cjh
20:13 oleonard    rangi is Koha's Doctor Xavier
20:13 cait        lol
20:13 * wizzyrea  likes this analogy
20:13 cait        but without a wheelchair I hope?
20:13 druthb      oooo...
20:13 libsysguy   rangi you're bald?
20:14 * druthb    wonders what role she will get.
20:14 * wizzyrea  snorts water
20:14 libsysguy   oh oh can we all have xmen names
20:14 rangi       if you guys keep breakng everything i soon will be
20:14 libsysguy   I want wolverine
20:14 cait        wizzyrea: no drink and reading koha chat!
20:14 cait        when will you learn? :)
20:14 wizzyrea    hehe
20:14 druthb      you're not hairy enough for that libsysguy.
20:14 druthb      bag is.
20:14 libsysguy   :'(
20:14 cait        what about me?
20:14 * wizzyrea  dies
20:14 oleonard    There aren't enough nerdy, sedentary X-men to go around
20:15 * wizzyrea  looks up who all is in the xmen
20:15 libsysguy   fine, dibs on colossus
20:15 libsysguy   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_(comics)
20:15 druthb      Clearly thought up by some sexist *man*.  X-Men, indeed....what about X-Women, too?
20:15 libsysguy   well there is storm, gene...
20:16 wizzyrea    if I were more psychokinetic I'd be jean grey
20:16 wizzyrea    though Lilandra, Majestrix of the Shi'ar Empire has a nice ring to it
20:17 * druthb    would love Shadowcat's powers.  Tha'd be cool.
20:17 druthb      Majestrix?  Definitely fits you, wizzyrea
20:17 libsysguy   and now my day is gone
20:17 oleonard    Okay, so KohaCon13 is a combination Koha/X-Men cosplay conference?
20:17 druthb      +1
20:18 wizzyrea    umm, scratch majestrix - I would not look good in that outfig.
20:18 wizzyrea    outfit*
20:18 libsysguy   sees a spandex shortage in the future
20:18 druthb      hush, you.
20:18 rangi       speaking of kohacon13
20:18 wizzyrea    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilandra O.o
20:18 rangi       i cant make the meeting, i deputise you all to make sure it doesnt go off the rails in some mental fashion
20:18 rangi       and we end up with booths or something
20:18 wizzyrea    booths?
20:18 rangi       (its on at 3am nz time)
20:18 wizzyrea    you mean like an expo
20:19 wizzyrea    or something
20:19 rangi       wizzyrea: i dunno thats the worst thing i could think of
20:19 druthb      wizzy, you'd look...erm...majestic in that, but it looks hot and uncomfortable.
20:19 wizzyrea    iunno.
20:19 wizzyrea    oh druthb
20:19 wizzyrea    there's a "pixie"
20:19 druthb      !
20:19 wizzyrea    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixie_(X-Men)
20:19 druthb      Ah'm there!
20:20 wizzyrea    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Frost here we go - an urbane mutant telepath with a well-noted dry wit
20:20 druthb      Love the outfit, too.
20:20 libsysguy   https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=colossus&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&biw=1412&bih=1008&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=U5syUP_NHcfE2gXC0YC4Ag#um=1&hl=en&safe=off&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=x+men+last+stand+colossus&oq=x+men+last+stand+col&gs_l=img.,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=1778fb004874edcf&biw=1412&bih=1008
20:20 druthb      ahem!
20:20 wizzyrea    yea, I can see that.
20:21 * druthb    points the youth at various url shorteners
20:21 oleonard    gesundheit, libsysguy
20:21 libsysguy   I blame google search
20:21 libsysguy   why do they need so many variables
20:22 oleonard    Oh, there's a mutant "with the ability to easily understand any language, whether verbal or written." I wonder if that extends to programming languages?
20:23 wizzyrea    let's just say it does
20:24 druthb      wizzyrea says it is so.
20:24 rangi       64 bugs in need sign off, i bet we can get that below 50 by the end of the week if each person does 2
20:24 druthb      So let it be written; so let it be done.
20:24 cait        heh
20:24 cait        I will try to continue on th z39.50 thing before going to sleep
20:24 cait        it would help if someone sends me chocolate cookies...
20:24 oleonard    Sorry rangi we're pretty swamped with this whole X-men thing
20:24 rangi       hehe
20:25 druthb      http://porkiepuss.tumblr.com/image/16761223099  <--awesome cosplay of Pixie.  I'm there.
20:26 druthb      how I'm gonna get that dagger on a plane, though...hm.
20:27 cait        suitcase
20:27 rangi       libsysguy: bug 8656
20:27 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8656 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Koha::Calendar not loading both sets of special dates
20:28 cait        uhoh
20:28 cait        rangi is handing out bugs :)
20:28 wizzyrea    oleonard - an example of the jquery-ui tabs?
20:28 wizzyrea    or anywhere there are tabs
20:29 libsysguy   wizzyrea top search
20:29 libsysguy   in 3.8
20:29 wizzyrea    k ty
20:29 rangi       wizzyrea: bug 8657
20:29 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8657 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Default sort by call number does not work
20:29 rangi       hehe
20:29 * wizzyrea  is currently working on bug 8644
20:29 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8644 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , jQueryUI CSS file should not contain customizations
20:29 rangi       ohh cool
20:29 wizzyrea    ;)
20:29 wizzyrea    but I"ll do that one next
20:30 rangi       who has IE ?
20:30 * libsysguy has a mac
20:31 oleonard    I have IE 9
20:31 rangi       you get bug 8659
20:31 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8659 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Inactive funds in neworderempty not disabled in IE/Opera
20:31 libsysguy   man he had that one ready
20:31 cait        :)
20:31 libsysguy   gun slinger rangi
20:31 rangi       and now ive caught up on the bug mail
20:31 rangi       the rest of you are safe
20:32 rangi       you may now return to your comic book discussions
20:32 rangi       hehe
20:32 libsysguy   I can't I'm too depressed now looking back at the old calendar code
20:32 libsysguy   the new stuff looks so much better
20:32 libsysguy   lol
20:33 cait        oh
20:33 libsysguy   its got that new code smell too
20:33 cait        marcelr failed my bug
20:33 cait        rangi: you can hand me a new one
20:33 cait        oh wow
20:33 cait        that was loud thunder
20:33 cait        must have been very close
20:34 cait        @wunder konstanz
20:34 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 21.8°C (10:30 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
20:34 rangi       cait: hard one or easy one?
20:34 cait        is there something in between?
20:35 rangi       bug 8378
20:35 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
20:36 rangi       or bug 8637
20:36 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8637 critical, P1 - high, ---, christophe.croullebois, Needs Signoff , Lack of control on mandatory in orderreveive.tt
20:36 wizzyrea    oleonard: on 8657, I can't seem to get the db update to go
20:36 druthb      @wunder 66046
20:36 huginn      druthb: The current temperature in Near Lawrence High School, Lawrence, Kansas is 31.1°C (3:33 PM CDT on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 13%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
20:36 rangi       i already signed off on that but it failed qa because of css stuff
20:36 * druthb    melts a lil
20:36 wizzyrea    dewd, it is not that hot here
20:37 oleonard    wizzyrea: :( Do you get an error?
20:37 wizzyrea    no, it just doesn't do it?
20:37 druthb      It's quite a bit hotter than that, in my office, wizzyrea...seems to be a focussing point for the sun's rays in here somehow.
20:37 wizzyrea    hmm
20:37 * wizzyrea  blames haarp
20:37 oleonard    wizzyrea: It won't do anything if your defaultSortField pref isn't set to call number
20:37 wizzyrea    it has to be set before the patch is applied - I get it
20:38 * wizzyrea  rolls it back and tries again
20:38 oleonard    wizzyrea: The update is only there to catch installations where they have it set to an invalid value
20:38 wizzyrea    gotya
20:39 wizzyrea    and when you search, the drop down should say "call number"
20:40 wizzyrea    ?
20:40 oleonard    Yes
20:40 wizzyrea    hrmm
20:40 oleonard    Not a good sound.
20:40 wizzyrea    I have the patch on, mine still says relevance
20:40 wizzyrea    even though the prefs are set to call number
20:41 * wizzyrea  clears the cache and what not
20:41 * cait      cheers wizzyrea on and looks at rangi's bug suggestions
20:41 rangi       i wonder if we can ask nengard to switch off the reposting of old videos, confuzzles people
20:41 * rangi     puts that on his to do list
20:41 * druthb    cheers wizzyrea too, then hits the scroll buffer to see what we're cheerin' about.
20:43 wizzyrea    yea sorry, oleonard I don't think that is working :/
20:44 oleonard    Okay, fail that puppy
20:48 oleonard    Gotta run. See you tomorrow #koha
20:48 rangi       cya oleonard
20:52 cait        rangi: I will try and tackle the fine code
20:52 cait        <fine>
20:52 cait        but have to configure my database first.. *sigh*
20:53 rangi       :)
20:56 rangi       http://heimatseeker.tumblr.com/post/29743228677/soup-hub
20:57 wizzyrea    @later tell oleonard I found the problem I think - it looks like the default value of ascending isn't actually set - you have to switch it to another and then back to ascending, and then it works re: bug 8657
20:57 huginn      wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
20:58 rangi       ahh yes theres a bug for that wizzyrea
20:58 rangi       im pretty sure i signed it off
20:58 * druthb    waves, and runs out.
20:58 * jcamins   agrees with rangi about the existence of the bug.
20:58 wizzyrea    oh cool - so I should not worry about that problem and sign off on this part, because it does work once the sort order is set properly
20:59 wizzyrea    ya?
20:59 rangi       sounds good to me
20:59 wizzyrea    okies
21:00 rangi       bug 8012
21:00 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8012 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Passed QA , defaultSortOrder and OPACdefaultSortOrder are set to "ascending" on install
21:00 wizzyrea    @later tell oleonard well cool, looks like there's a separate bug for that problem which means *your* patch WORKS and I'll sign off :D
21:00 huginn      wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
21:00 rangi       A little investigation showed that this value is actually initialized NULL--which you can't set in the interface--which shows "ascending."  But the actual behavior of the sort is kinda screwy by that.  To me, it makes sense to initialize the value to SOMETHING...
21:00 rangi       that ^^
21:00 wizzyrea    ya, exactly
21:00 wizzyrea    that is precisely what I observed
21:01 jcamins     Wouldn't it be nice if sorting weren't so brittle?
21:02 rangi       someone should rewrite it
21:02 jcamins     Yeah, I agree.
21:03 wizzyrea    hehe
21:05 cait        I think it's maybe missing default values in sql/pref file?
21:06 rangi       it is, but 8012 fixes that cait
21:06 jcamins     cait: it is, but it also is a problem with the sorting.
21:06 cait        ah cool :)
21:06 cait        and heya jcamins :)
21:07 jcamins     With the fixed default, we just don't notice that the sorting implementation is brittle.
21:07 jcamins     Unless we are me.
21:07 jcamins     In which case we curse it frequently.
21:12 rangi       http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington-weather/7513265/Lightning-storm-hits-Wellington  (was loud last night)
21:15 wizzyrea    oh yea, saw that - I guess there were also "freak" lightning storms in japan and taiwan
21:15 wizzyrea    just crazy lightning
21:15 wizzyrea    unusual lightning.
21:16 cait        @wunder Konstanz
21:16 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 21.0°C (11:00 PM CEST on August 20, 2012). Conditions: Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
21:16 cait        at least it cooled down a bit :( the thunderstorm missed us by just a little bit
21:22 wizzyrea    What is LR in accountlines?
21:24 rangi       hehe
21:24 rangi       curl -s http://animals.ivolo.me/
21:24 rangi       wizzyrea: Lost Returned
21:26 wizzyrea    ty - also, weird - I have an example where returning the item didn't take it off of someone's account
21:27 rangi       hmm there were some changes around that recently, im not sure if they were pushed or not though
21:27 cait        I think it's supposed to be a syspref
21:27 wizzyrea    well this is 3.6.4 so it could just be buggy
21:27 wizzyrea    yea, I think you're right
21:27 cait        or somehing, not sure
21:27 wizzyrea    but I don't think that stuff is in my version
21:27 cait        we are not using the lost workflow yet
21:27 cait        yeah, it was a recent thing on bugzila
21:38 wizzyrea    weird. I can't explain why that happened.
21:38 wizzyrea    or didn't happen, as the case may be.
21:39 wizzyrea    the lost status was removed, ok. it was checked in, ok. but it didn't come off of the account - WEIRD.
21:39 cait        hm.
21:39 cait        maybe somehting with the way it was retunred?
21:39 rangi       hmm that is weird, it should have lodged a credit balancing at zero
21:39 wizzyrea    yea, precisely ^^
21:40 wizzyrea    but… how could they return it that it would not trigger the process.
21:40 * wizzyrea  tries all the check in boxes
21:41 wizzyrea    now it just says "not checked out" - bc it is, in fact, not checked out
21:42 rangi       hehe
21:42 wizzyrea    I wonder about checking it out to the patron again and checking it in
21:42 wizzyrea    but...
21:42 wizzyrea    the simple solution to this is to just manually writeoff the $15 and lift her debarment manually.
21:43 wizzyrea    :P
21:43 wizzyrea    and chalk it up to a network error.
21:43 wizzyrea    or something
21:43 wizzyrea    sunspot
21:43 wizzyrea    oh, we did have sunspots today
21:43 wizzyrea    3 M class ones, even.
21:43 rangi       id try checking it out and in again
21:43 * wizzyrea  goes with suspots.
21:43 wizzyrea    hehe
21:44 wizzyrea    yea, that usually is a cure all
21:45 cait        sunspots :)
21:46 rangi       wahanui: excuse?
21:46 wahanui     rangi: Mouse has out-of-cheese-error
21:46 rangi       there you go
21:46 wizzyrea    mmmm yes
21:46 wizzyrea    wahanui: excuse?
21:46 wahanui     wizzyrea: operation failed because: there is no message for this error (#1014)
21:46 wizzyrea    KEKE
21:47 cait        excuse?
21:47 wahanui     cait: Redundant ACLs.
21:47 cait        excuse?
21:47 wahanui     cait: Our ISP is having {switching,routing,SMDS,frame relay} problems
21:47 cait        excuse?
21:47 wahanui     cait: Someone has messed up the kernel pointers
21:47 wizzyrea    how do you add an excuse?
21:47 cait        hmmm
21:47 * wizzyrea  wants to add sunspots
21:47 rangi       thats in there
21:47 wizzyrea    oh good
21:50 cait        excuse?
21:50 wahanui     cait: Jupiter is aligned with Mars.
21:50 cait        ah... that's nice
21:52 wizzyrea    excuse?
21:52 wahanui     wizzyrea: Internet outage
21:52 wizzyrea    mhm.
21:52 * wizzyrea  likes this game
21:53 cait        eek
21:54 cait        8607
21:54 cait        bug 8607
21:54 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8607 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , overdue_notices is broken
21:59 rangi       can you confirm that bug 8607 works, if so ill push it to 3.8.x for 3.8.4
21:59 cait        working on it
21:59 cait        I got the fines
22:00 cait        and I got messages created
22:00 rangi       sweet
22:00 cait        so that's one step further from having the script explodeon me
22:00 cait        but I stil have to check the contents of the messages
22:00 rangi       it's a tiny patch (8607)
22:01 cait        yeah
22:01 cait        i have to undo the fine patch and check again
22:01 cait        because that is not working :(
22:01 cait        for me at least
22:01 cait        it#s still not outputting the fine
22:01 rangi       yeah it probably wont without 8607
22:01 cait        and what's wirth
22:01 cait        worse
22:01 cait        it's not giving me a list of items, but only one item whre it should be 2
22:02 cait        yeah, you can't test the fine syntax without applying 8607 - I only have to check how broken it is without using th efine syntax changes
22:02 rangi       actually im pushing to 8607, there's no way it can work without that change
22:02 cait        makes sense
22:02 cait        i still get errors with the patch running the script - but warnings
22:02 rangi       good you spotted that before the release
22:02 cait        Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at overdue_notices.pl line 683
22:03 cait        yeah
22:03 cait        wajasu's patch doesn't work :(
22:03 cait        it breaks the way the notices are done
22:03 rangi       ah well, fail qa, thats better than leaving it in needs signoff
22:03 cait        yeah I will
22:03 cait        but the first patch works allright
22:03 rangi       the upside is, we spotted 8607 doing this
22:03 cait        doesn't output fines
22:03 cait        but all items show up in the notice
22:04 rangi       sweet
22:04 cait        but...
22:04 cait        the fix you did once... is undone
22:04 rangi       hmm ?
22:04 cait        it should have given me a first notice and a second notice
22:04 cait        2 letters
22:04 cait        it doesn't
22:04 rangi       ah yeah
22:04 cait        I hate when we break stuff that I tested and tested and tested
22:05 rangi       actually i think 7447 isnt in 3.8
22:05 rangi       nope
22:05 rangi       so yeah 3.8.x doesnt have that bug
22:05 rangi       just master
22:05 rangi       so i dont need to push 8607
22:05 cait        oh
22:05 cait        that's good
22:06 cait        but it's still majorly broken :(
22:06 rangi       in master?
22:06 cait        yeah
22:06 rangi       try 3.8.x
22:06 rangi       i bet its better than master
22:06 cait        I will have to create a new database for that
22:06 cait        too late today
22:06 rangi       ahh not today
22:06 rangi       :)
22:06 cait        will try before work
22:06 rangi       its not urgent
22:11 cait        writing up my test case for wajasu now before failing
22:18 * cait      growls at bug 7447
22:18 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7447 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Allow to specify a date in overdue_notice.pl
22:18 cait        and closes lots of tabs
22:18 cait        @wunder Konstanz
22:18 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 21.0°C (12:00 AM CEST on August 21, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
22:27 rangi       meeting time brb