Time Nick Message 23:59 rangi id use Net::DBus to just hook into D-Bus 23:59 jcamins But I'm writing a test. 23:59 jcamins I don't know. 23:58 wajasu or queue service? 23:58 wajasu is there any popular messaging bus in the perl world? 23:55 jcamins Oh, right. open is async. 23:53 jcamins this is a problem. 23:53 jcamins Ummm... 23:51 jcamins It worked. 23:50 wajasu gdb 23:43 jcamins yaz, rather. 23:43 jcamins Zebra is segfaulting. 23:43 jcamins Awesome. 23:42 jcamins Preferably without spending too much time delving into the inner workings of Perl's threading support. 23:38 jcamins I need to slurp zebrasrv's output without blocking. 23:37 rangi mveron++ 23:37 jcamins Me too! 23:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Add information warning about log-in as root user to About->System information 23:37 rangi oh i like bug 8641 23:36 jcamins Maybe. 23:36 jcamins Okay... I have a problem. 23:35 wajasu i'm flailing with overdue notice. 23:35 wajasu Noooo. 23:35 jcamins You can have the work I did so far. 23:35 jcamins And if you want to jump in and do C4::Search, be my guest! 23:34 rangi write more :) 23:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, bart.tj, Passed QA , Unit tests required for all C4 modules 23:34 rangi wajasu: bug 5327 23:34 jcamins I agree. 23:34 jcamins wajasu: like I'm working on. 23:34 wajasu thats why we need tests. with lots of coverage, so one can reimnplement and not debug. 23:34 rangi :) 23:34 rangi course we'd still be wwriting it and have no users 23:34 jcamins And there are results! 23:33 wajasu i think with dynamic languages, you can crank out stuff quick, but maintenance is a nightmare. if there were contracts/interfaces, someone could just reimplement from scratch faster. 23:31 wajasu perl code is so selfish. its my my my everywhere! 23:30 jcamins Okay, maybe "merciful" is pushing it. 23:29 jcamins Zebra is running. 23:29 jcamins Thank merciful goodness. 23:29 rangi thats what you get for poking at it 23:29 jcamins I still can't get Zebra to start. 23:28 jcamins Easy for you to say. 23:28 rangi take a chill pill :) 23:28 jcamins I HATE ZEBRA!!! 23:27 wajasu vestigal 23:27 wajasu a vetigal nozebra thing 23:27 wahanui hmmm... the is a stop word 23:27 jcamins What the... 23:25 wajasu i realized that the categorization of knowledge was really controlled by a few people in the world until the internet took off. 23:23 rangi all the ones who use authorities anyway 23:23 rangi all our libraries are members of te puna 23:23 jcamins copy doesn't forcibly overwrite files. 23:23 rangi they price prohibitively 23:23 rangi nope 23:21 jcamins You don't work with any OCLC libraries? 23:21 jcamins Heh. 23:21 rangi with less z 23:21 rangi we use the ones from Te Puna 23:21 rangi actually we dont 23:21 jcamins Oh thank goodness. 23:21 jcamins rangi: and yet you still use them. 23:20 jcamins wajasu: that was his. 23:19 rangi all your authorities are spelt wrong for us anyway :P 23:19 wajasu what about the file at archive.org from some university. 23:18 jcamins No, that was an employee at LC. 23:18 wajasu i think we should grab sears, and whatever, and then compile our own using bayesian algorithms. 23:17 wajasu is that that story i heard about a couple of years back, where so guys sucked the whole thing down through a university account, and then put it on the torrent/inet? 23:15 jcamins The problem is that first you have to get it. 23:15 jcamins wajasu: technically the LC authority file is in the public domain in the US. 23:15 rangi not so much 23:15 rangi doing it 23:15 rangi one thing ive learnt about libraries .. they talk about sharing 23:15 wajasu drama 23:15 wajasu then we'd have our own litter bibster drame. 23:14 rangi i like your optimism :) 23:14 wajasu crowdsourcing would build it up in no time. 23:14 wajasu well, we could create our own P2P authority torrent that no one owns, but then ... 23:13 rangi Users do not have to register or request permission to search, save, print, or email the LC authority records. The only limitation is that authority records may only be saved, printed or emailed one at a time. 23:13 rangi like a said, not a technical issue :) 23:13 wajasu oh 23:12 jcamins Or, at least, if you decide to do it, you can't advertise the fact. 23:12 jcamins Yeah, you can't download records from that programmatically. 23:11 wajasu thats what my users use. 23:11 wajasu i mean from http://authorities.loc.gov/ 23:11 wajasu this overdue_notice get more complicated since one could have multiple overdue items and a fine for each. 23:10 rangi you gots to pay for that 23:10 rangi not a technical thing 23:10 rangi yeah thats a legality thing 23:10 jcamins LC doesn't share their authorities. 23:08 wajasu i can't believe we don't have a function that when you grab a biblio from z3950, we don't offer some authorities scraped from LOC or such. or at least a popup to choose, download, merge/link. 23:06 wajasu gatcha 23:06 jcamins wajasu: I was using that, but right now I'm actually torturing Zebra for fun and profit. 23:05 jcamins Right, new plan. 23:00 wajasu are you using the new index_daemon patch that incrementally indexes. it can be helpfull. 22:58 jcamins A fact which I have every intention of ignoring for the foreseeable future. 22:57 jcamins Argh. 22:57 jcamins Though, no authorities. 22:57 jcamins I finally managed to get records into my system. 22:57 jcamins Oh thank goodness. 22:54 wajasu the overdue notice seems to transform <fine>USD</fine> to <<item.fine>>, but at the wrong place. The change history is busy. 22:52 rangi heh 22:51 jcamins Argh! 22:51 jcamins ... and there's only one record in this database. 22:51 jcamins I could have been confused. 22:50 rangi even in the pile of poo that is SimpleSearch 22:50 rangi hhmm i wonder where, we do in C4/Search 22:49 jcamins I think we aren't using Zconn somewhere. A fact I discovered when mocking it didn't work. 22:48 wajasu i had to query at an acceptable rate, but a couple of days and 15000 bibs later, I had marcxml to import. :) 22:48 rangi if its using Zconn it wont be 22:47 wajasu i learned about that some writing my migration app. i wrote a java yaz client to build marc records, and for to LOC and other z3950 servers and find by isbn, and then tied matching authors if multiple were found. 22:47 jcamins And weeping. 22:47 jcamins I thought I recalled being bitten by that while staring at SimpleSearch. 22:46 rangi i dont know anywhere we set that 22:46 jcamins ZOOM has a non-Z39.50 mode for connecting to Zebra. 22:46 rangi if we use zoom we are 22:46 jcamins We *should*. 22:46 jcamins I don't think we actually use Z39.50 everywhere. 22:45 rangi thats the connection that zoom makes 22:45 rangi inside z3950 22:45 jcamins Well, via RPN. 22:44 rangi koha searches it, via Z3950 22:44 rangi thats what it is 22:44 rangi zebra is a z3950 and SRU server 22:44 jcamins Though I just discovered that SRU probably doesn't work quite right. 22:44 jcamins Both. 22:44 rangi yes 22:44 wajasu does the koha z3950 or SRU server use zebra? 22:42 jcamins wajasu: that's what I'm working on... regression testing for Zebra. 22:41 wajasu later when they get solr search working, we can write a test to compare results between zebra/solr to uncover missing.....time. 22:40 wajasu yup. 22:39 jcamins Zebra config files are *weird*. 22:34 wajasu ok. that was worth it. 22:33 rangi awesome :) 22:33 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIMd5KFG1vQ 22:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6617 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , table of contents not printing right if entered right 22:28 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 6617: Improve MARC21 enhanced contents display (intranet) 22:28 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 6617: Improve MARC21 enhanced contents display 22:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #140: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/140/ 22:27 wajasu cool. 22:26 jcamins wajasu++ 22:26 jcamins Why yes, Zebra has been running for ages. 22:25 jcamins Ooooh. 22:24 wajasu ps -aef , does the zebra daemon script specify it in a command line arg? 22:24 jcamins But none include directories. 22:24 jcamins Well, there are the expected references to it. 22:24 wajasu not on KOHA_CONF or any of the files in the sub directories? 22:23 jcamins There is no reference to default.idx anywhere. 22:23 jcamins Zebra keeps on looking at my default.idx in kohaclone/etc/zebradb/etc. 22:23 jcamins If anyone can explain this mystery for me, I would be grateful. 22:15 jcamins Actually, maybe not. 22:14 jcamins Useful fact: Zebra loads every single file in every single directory it is pointed at. 21:57 wahanui sandboxes are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes 21:57 jcamins sandboxes? 21:56 jcamins Well, Zebra indexes. 21:56 jcamins Now I need a Zebra database. 21:56 jcamins Okay, I have Zebra configuration files. 21:55 jcamins Cabbage is one of those things that I don't dislike, but I also don't know what to do with. 21:55 jcamins wajasu: no, but that'd be a nice idea. 21:55 jcamins wizzyrea: I've always found it kind of boring. 21:55 wajasu are we leverageing template toolkit to generate letters? 21:54 wizzyrea cabbage is kind of awesome raw tho 21:47 jcamins I think a whole head of cabbage would probably be more-or-less a lifetime supply. 21:46 jcamins http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/22/magazine/food-cabbage-fever.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm 21:44 wizzyrea technically you can use anything in pesto 21:43 bag but give it try 21:43 bag never heard of it jcamins 21:43 jcamins Could one use green cabbage for pesto? 21:43 jcamins Oregano. 21:41 jcamins I actually didn't notice. 21:41 wizzyrea and olive oil 21:41 wizzyrea and garlic 21:41 wizzyrea pine nuts 21:41 jcamins Basil and... 21:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #140 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:22 wajasu later 21:22 cait and that's why I should go - good night again :) 21:22 cait ok :) but only because I am really tired right now 21:21 wajasu its a java thing. forget i mentioned it. 21:21 wajasu it decorates a site. it parses the view templates, decorating the page. so you define a base site framework, with nav, menu, css, js, etc and pages have more content. 21:19 cait not sure what that is, sorry 21:12 wajasu does that newer template toolkit support something like sitemesh (a java thing) 21:11 wajasu yes! edit/modify -> edit or such helps 21:11 cait like the prices 21:11 cait would be a good start 21:11 cait but fixing up terms to be the same on each page 21:10 wahanui consistency is always a good thing. It will make using DBI::Class that much easier. 21:10 wajasu consistency. 21:10 cait mmh yes 21:10 wajasu i can tell a different bloke wrote each piece of the workflow 21:10 cait I think the basic stuff is not bad, but more consistency... maybe 21:10 wajasu thats what i mean 21:10 cait or we need to fix the workflows :) 21:08 wajasu we need so help/hints/ tooltips to guide folks down our sordid paths :) 21:08 wajasu all i know is the way you go around to get things done in aqui... is convoluted. i would give up as a user. 21:07 rangi night cait 21:07 cait good night all:) 21:07 wajasu then navigate using filter and then see if cancel shows and pops up. 21:07 wizzyrea sorta 21:06 * wizzyrea kinda tries 21:06 wajasu i'll receive it. 21:06 wajasu i'll go try again later.. 21:06 wajasu and it showed Delete Order/Can't delete .... and ctalog record. 21:05 wajasu i put 1 in the orderline of the filter and the tables changed, and i hit the Cancel link 21:05 wizzyrea :) 21:05 wajasu i didn't receive 21:05 wajasu you might be right. 21:04 wajasu i did it, and it change the table to have a column with Receive/Cancel links 21:04 wizzyrea ah I think you need to "receive" the order 21:04 wajasu once i got a order placed, i figured i was suppose to get some filter widget on the left side of the page to filter. 21:04 wizzyrea oh yes, the language barrier strikes 21:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8382 blocker, P1 - high, ---, christophe.croullebois, Needs Signoff , It is not possible to cancel an order when receiving on a filtered page in parcel.pl 21:03 wajasu bug 8382 21:02 wajasu let me look up the bug. 21:02 wizzyrea you can always just ask here 21:01 wajasu i had to give up on a test yesterday because i can't understand the behavior before or after, and unless i can talk with the component lead, i can't verify. 20:59 rangi specially if i didnt have to do it 20:59 rangi js testing, i could roll with that 20:59 cait won't take a few years I think 20:59 rangi yup 20:59 wajasu when i got into testing some javascript functionality in acquisitions, i began to see, that in a few years koha is going to have a heap of js to debug. 20:56 * jcamins decides to take a break and pick up the herbs. 20:53 jcamins Oh for crying out loud. 20:51 jcamins Darn. 20:51 cait less testers for that around 20:51 cait with icu 20:51 cait hmmm 20:51 jcamins cait: not today. 20:51 cait you want to test both? :P 20:50 cait hah, I closed a bug! 20:50 jcamins Do I want to be testing Zebra with or without ICU? 20:50 jcamins I think I want to test DOM. 20:50 jcamins Okay... 20:48 jcamins Sounds good. 20:47 cait until someone says differently? 20:47 cait so... do we agree on - resolved worksforme? 20:47 cait ok 20:47 jcamins Before the patch. 20:47 jcamins cait: I've tried it a few times, and it always works perfectly. 20:46 cait in my tests it worked nicely without the patch 20:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6713 critical, P3, ---, henridamien.laurent, Needs Signoff , marc import not matching 20:46 cait jcamins you might know this - bug 6713 20:46 cait and talking about search.... 20:45 cait jcamins: I was referring to selenium :) 20:45 rangi yes they are 20:45 jcamins Environment variables are a lousy way to handle intra-Perl script communication. 20:45 rangi and an ever increasing test suite of perl unit tests 20:45 wajasu ha 20:45 * jcamins bangs his head against the desk. 20:45 rangi not really, we have a good handle on that already 20:44 wajasu so you really arent concerned about calling perl directly. 20:44 rangi and why mechanize is better, at least it fails consistently if it fails 20:44 jcamins Testing search.pm... 20:44 rangi im carping about selenium 20:44 rangi oh mechanize is fine 20:44 jcamins WWW::Mechanize always works great for me. :/ 20:44 cait they just stopped working :( 20:43 cait I never got my tests to run again successfully 20:43 cait same for me 20:43 wizzyrea I might have been doing it wrong though ;) 20:43 rangi thats my experience with selenium, we have a 8 person QA team here at catalyst, they pretty much gave up on it 20:43 wizzyrea or because "selenium can't push that button" 20:42 rangi wajasu: not writing tests, rewriting them again and again because they fail in unexplained ways 20:42 wajasu i saw jcamins used Mechanize in a test i think. 20:42 wajasu writing tests is coding, configuring is coding, coding is coding. :) 20:42 * jcamins waves. 20:42 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Interface_testing_with_WWW::Mechanize 20:41 rangi when i say we, i mean jcamins 20:41 rangi what we have been working on is this 20:41 * wizzyrea is glad i'm not alone in that assessment 20:41 wizzyrea ^^ was what I discovered 20:41 rangi you spend more time fixing your tests than testing 20:40 rangi yeah, we 'try' to use selenium a lot at work for our projects (we do some pretty biggish sites (not koha related) at catalyst) 20:40 wizzyrea the last time I used selenium it didn't do so well with some of our javascript 20:39 wajasu you want the browser to be driven? via webdriver (selenium), a really integration tests. 20:38 * rangi hopes he is making sense 20:38 rangi its testing the whole of it working together is the trick 20:38 rangi the biggest problem we have, is testing the actual app usage .. testing components of it .. pretty simple, perl has a lot of great testing frameworks for that 20:37 rangi yeah thats a way down the track tho 20:36 wajasu i think you guys are heading toward a layered architecture, with services, so i am thinking about testing persistent domain objects, services, javascript, webdriver. 20:35 wajasu after awhile, i thought, we might try using the latest java/groovy testing stuff (webunit, geb, gradle, etc) so that might be another option. 20:34 rangi but id still like to see what it can come up with 20:33 rangi something that can test the js + css + html + perl + database all working together 20:33 rangi we need UAT testing, web based, using something like www::mechanize etc 20:33 wajasu anyway, i'll try to see if i can write a driver for koha, and see if its feasible after i attempt this patch. 20:32 rangi we have around 10000 of those 20:32 rangi the problem we have isnt functional unit tests 20:32 rangi yep 20:31 wajasu once you have a bastion of tests, porting to knew languages or implementaions is easier, because you've got your actual requirements codified. 20:30 wajasu i started thinking, that if the fixtures can be written in groovy, they would be less verbose than java. other perl fixtures can be written too. 20:29 wajasu now its primarily in java, and a jar, but the new version uses a languag agnostic protocol called slim. 20:28 wajasu the idea is to write the base fixtures that give access to the domain model, and the driver should bridge things. 20:27 rangi ahh right 20:27 wajasu i researched, installed, and found its evolved somewhat. its a wiki. BAs can write high level BDD/TDD scenarios close to plain english, which fail initially. then devs can write fixtures to enable tests. 20:25 rangi wajasu: how did you get on with fitnesse ? 20:24 cait wajasu: would be happy to see that working well again 20:24 cait very cool 20:22 rangi cool 20:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore 20:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8607 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , overdue_notices is broken 20:21 wajasu though bug 8607 was signed off, i noticed and found a related bug 8378 which i am attempting to fix 20:21 rangi cya oleonard 20:21 rangi heh 20:21 oleonard See you tomorrow. Look for the sad oleonard in mibbit clothing again ;) 20:14 rangi back 20:06 wizzyrea it's perfect out at the moment 20:06 wizzyrea i almost want to have a picnic 20:06 wizzyrea very nice weather here too 20:05 rangi Ok my stop bbiab 20:04 cait very nice weather here right now 20:04 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 22.0°C (10:00 PM CEST on August 14, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). 20:04 cait @wunder Konstanz 20:01 wizzyrea bummer :( yea it rained most of the morning 20:00 rambutan wizzyrea: you got rain? You must have gotten it all, we got zip. 19:57 wizzyrea clear now tho 19:56 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Jeff's Weather Lab, Lawrence, Kansas is 22.6°C (2:54 PM CDT on August 14, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling). 19:56 wizzyrea @wunder 66049 19:56 wizzyrea here too 19:56 rangi A rainy morning it is too 19:51 wizzyrea mornin rangi 19:47 cait good morning rangi :) 19:46 druthb hi, rangi. :) 19:45 wahanui morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. 19:45 jcamins Morning. 19:45 oleonard Hi rangi 19:45 rangi Morning 19:35 wizzyrea well I suppose so 19:35 jcamins Right, but I could have done it wrong. 19:34 wizzyrea I have real life examples! 19:34 wizzyrea :) 19:34 wizzyrea I mean, I know it's happening on .4 19:34 wizzyrea thank you for checking .8 tho 19:34 wizzyrea I'll check it again on master - just to be sure 19:34 wizzyrea I don't see the point really 19:31 jcamins I can check out 3.6.4. 19:31 jcamins It does seem to work in 3.6.8. 19:30 wizzyrea ;) 19:30 wizzyrea which means people who are higher than we are won't have that problem ;0 19:30 wizzyrea I'll be glad if it's just a bug in 3.6.4 19:26 jcamins lol 19:26 wizzyrea lol. 19:26 oleonard I've worked on it every day since Feb. 2010, to no avail. 19:26 jcamins Ah, a good bug. :) 19:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4230 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , new icon for move to lowest priority on holds 19:25 oleonard Bug 4230 19:25 jcamins Except on the book where he is pinned to the bottom. 19:25 jcamins John Smith has the first hold. 19:25 jcamins Right. 19:25 jcamins Unless I did something wrong. 19:24 wizzyrea they are not all stuck at the bottom? 19:24 jcamins Works in 3.6.8. 19:24 wizzyrea or not work, as the case may be 19:24 wizzyrea it will work both ways 19:24 jcamins Oh, I have to place the other hold after the one is set to lowest priority. 19:23 wizzyrea which is wrong wrong wrong 19:23 wizzyrea your patron should stay at the bottom on all of them 19:23 wizzyrea and place other holds on that bib 19:23 wizzyrea ok so now, place another hold on a different bib 19:23 wizzyrea it is unhelpful 19:23 wizzyrea yes 19:23 jcamins Has anyone commented that having two down arrow icons that do totally different things is not helpful? 19:23 wizzyrea not the one between the priority and the patron 19:22 wizzyrea the one by the x 19:22 jcamins I click the down arrow. 19:22 wizzyrea lol. 19:22 jcamins Ah. 19:21 jcamins How do I toggle a hold lowest priority? 19:21 oleonard Oh yeah I like that. and I notice when it doesn't work on other pages 19:20 jcamins When checking out. 19:20 jcamins oleonard: double clicking a name automatically selects it. 19:20 oleonard What did you write jcamins? A way to double click to get extra bonus holds? 19:20 jcamins Double clicking doesn't work. 19:20 wizzyrea that's what I was talking about :) 19:20 mveron Good night #koha 19:20 wizzyrea oh 19:20 jcamins No. 19:20 wizzyrea wait, double holds being created? 19:19 jcamins In 3.4. 19:19 jcamins No, definitely me. 19:19 jcamins The double clicking? 19:19 wizzyrea hm no that was kyle 19:19 jcamins Oh, it was on checkout. 19:19 jcamins Didn't I write that? 19:18 jcamins Hey, what happened to double clicking when placing a hold? 19:18 cait ah ok 19:17 wizzyrea wel lthey have a different icon when they're stuck 19:17 cait or color the stuck holds in a different way? 19:17 cait wizzyrea: maybe we should have an option to turn that feature off 19:16 wizzyrea yea sorry jcamins, movie.. .one min 19:15 wizzyrea to make them all be that way! 19:15 wizzyrea is that it only has to be one (of possibly many) holds on the patron's account that is toggled lowest priority 19:15 jcamins Guess I'll need a bunch of holds. 19:15 wizzyrea what really sucks about it 19:15 wizzyrea "this person's holds are stuck at the bottom and we don't know why" 19:14 wizzyrea you maybe have a ticket for weird behaviour like that? 19:14 nengard so maybe i'm wrong 19:14 nengard yeah that's what i'm reading :) 19:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6344 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, NEW , Hold priority displayed incorrectly when "Toggle Lowest Priority" option is used 19:14 wizzyrea bug 6344 isn't it 19:13 nengard it sounds familiar to me 19:13 nengard wizzyrea i think there is a bug on that 19:12 wizzyrea ok one sec 19:12 jcamins So I can make sure I'm doing it right. 19:12 jcamins Uhhh... video, perhaps? 19:11 jcamins Let me check on 3.6.8. 19:11 wizzyrea to include the opacusercss 19:11 * wizzyrea did that patch for the sco 19:10 wizzyrea did I miss the memo on this bug or did I just figure it out. 19:10 wizzyrea in 3.6.4 if a person has a single hold that is toggled to the bottom (lowestpriority) then all of their holds are stuck to the bottom 19:10 jcamins Yep. But of course all the IDs are different. 19:10 mveron jcamins ++ 19:10 wizzyrea ugh 19:10 nengard oh! so if you put CSS in OPACUserCSS it will style SCO? 19:10 jcamins What did I come across that was a surprise to me, then? 19:09 nengard i did a css search and there isn't a pref i know about - 19:09 jcamins Oh, it includes OPACUserCSS. 19:09 nengard hehe 19:09 jcamins I was surprised to come across one on Sunday. At least, I was surprised to come across what looked like one to a quick glance. 19:08 nengard yes 19:08 jcamins Right, but aren't you looking for the syspref? 19:08 nengard but not one for CSS that i know about 19:08 nengard there is a pref for JS on SCO 19:08 nengard sco.css 19:08 jcamins I came across this just the other day. 19:08 jcamins Let me check which syspref it is. 19:08 nengard custom 19:07 jcamins nengard: there already is CSS on the self checkout. 19:07 nengard isn't there a bug for adding a CSS for the self checkout? 19:07 cait well deserved :) 19:05 mveron jcamins: Wow! Fastest sign-off I ever had :-) 19:05 jcamins :) 19:05 jcamins Signing off after it passes all the tests. 19:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Add information warning about log-in as root user to About->System information 19:05 jcamins mveron: bug 8641 looks good. 19:05 cait if you don't tell us, we can't help :) 19:03 wizzyrea let me first :P 19:03 wizzyrea well no 19:03 wizzyrea ok, can someone test this 18:59 wizzyrea ew 18:59 wizzyrea but I will have to test it 18:59 oleonard If it was from the staff fridge just put it back wizzyrea 18:59 mveron hi cait :-) 18:59 cait nice idea with 8641! 18:58 cait hi mveron :) 18:58 wizzyrea I think 18:58 wizzyrea hmm I just found something odd 18:58 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 25.2°C (8:50 PM CEST on August 14, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising). 18:58 mveron @wunder Basel 18:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Add information warning about log-in as root user to About->System information 18:57 * mveron submitted Bug 8641 (see yesterdays questions by ExtraordinaryBen and answers by rangi) 18:54 oleonard That helps, thanks 18:53 nengard refresh 18:52 oleonard Are you trying to avoid confusion by not putting the UTC time? 18:50 oleonard Oh you mean the "get the right time" link? 18:50 oleonard I don't see it on the page 18:50 nengard but okay 18:50 cait it's in the link - the mail confused me a little bit :) 18:50 nengard it's linked 18:50 nengard not really 18:50 oleonard nengard: Lacks time info! 18:49 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails First KohaCon13 IRC Meeting http://t.co/eeHZjw8a" 18:17 nengard yeah that might do it 18:17 nengard ooo 18:15 wizzyrea there was a plugin that was terribly out of date ;) 18:15 wizzyrea cool, it's still ok 18:15 wizzyrea cool 18:15 nengard that's okay i got my post up 18:15 wizzyrea nengard - it may be wonky for just a minute - I'm trying something 18:13 wizzyrea cool beans 18:13 nengard no refresh necessary 18:13 nengard :) 18:13 nengard wizzyrea all better 18:12 wizzyrea refresh first, clear cache, yada yada first 18:12 wizzyrea nengard please try now 18:11 wizzyrea hi cait :) 18:07 * cait waves 18:05 jcamins 600x800 18:04 jcamins There is not a limit other than that set by the web server, but all images will be reduced down to... 18:03 oleonard jcamins would know I suppose 18:01 nengard dimensions and/or file size 18:01 nengard Does anyone know if there is an image size limit when uploading cover images? Asking for the manual 18:00 nengard okey dokey 17:54 wizzyrea i see what you mean I'll have to investigate. 17:54 nengard oh there it goes 17:54 nengard it's stuck loading 17:53 nengard Hmm .. and I can't publish either 17:51 nengard I had no probs creating a page when I created the conference page last week (or whenever that was) 17:50 nengard I'm trying to post to K-c.org and the editos is doing wierd things - the buttons aren't visible on the HTML tab and when I use the visual tab and click to add a link it clears all the text in the post box 17:50 wizzyrea yep 17:49 nengard wizzyrea around? 17:26 khall bug filed and patch submitted: 8640 17:22 oleonard Wherever he may be. 17:22 khall wajasu++ then! 17:21 jcamins khall: wajasu had an idea for how to add tests for circulation rules which I am eagerly awaiting him implementing. 17:18 khall I would agree. It is *not* intuitive and runs counter to how all other issuing rule related actions function. 17:08 jcamins That's definitely not how it was supposed to work, according to my understanding, though. 17:07 jcamins khall: I suspect most tests involved *all* rules having hard due dates, or none of them. 17:06 khall jcamins: thanks for the verify. It seemed a bit odd. I'll file a bug and a patch. 17:06 jcamins khall: bug. 17:06 gaetan_B bye ! 17:05 khall "STAFF / * / *" *has* are hardduedate, and is thus the one returned. 17:05 khall it has no hardduedate. So it tosses it and keeps looking. The next match, 17:05 khall So in this case, even though there is a matching rule for "STAFF / VIDEO / *", 17:05 khall that rule has a hardduedate set it will toss it and keep looking! 17:05 khall hard due date as well. That means that even if it finds a matching rule, unless 17:05 khall found an row of results before returning, but checks for the existence of a 17:05 khall GetHardDueDate works just like GetIssuingRule, but it not only tests for having 17:05 SJeffery ^ Sums up working with Koha :) 17:04 khall does anyone around know much about hard due dates? I've found a problem and I'm not sure if it is a bug or an intended behavior. 16:57 oleonard So services/itemrecorddisplay.tt is used to show an add item form in Aquisitions... Why don't we do the same in Cataloging? 16:18 kf bye all :) 16:15 kf oleonard: maybe - not sure if they are still missing - they used to be in older versions :) 16:14 oleonard So what I'm hearing is we need ID attributes for those tabs? :) 16:12 nengard that's why i'm okay closing it if no one else can reproduce it 16:12 kf the sequence of tabs changed, caused some problems in our installations hiding the wrong tab 16:12 nengard could totally be possible 16:12 kf nengard: maybe some css or js? 16:10 oleonard Hm, no to patron images 16:10 nengard cause I was 16:10 nengard and letting people edit their details? 16:10 nengard are you showing patron images on the details tab? 16:09 oleonard I made sure all my tabs matched yours (enabled opacprivacy, etc) 16:09 nengard I'm okay if you close it though :) 16:08 nengard not sure what we have on there that's making that happen 16:08 oleonard Yes 16:08 nengard you saw the video though 16:08 nengard yeah i figured it might be some kind of fluke 16:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8639 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , my personal details hidden when on my summary 16:08 oleonard-away nengard: I can't reproduce Bug 8639 in master or 3.8.3 15:56 kf lol you can get a nap or 2 15:55 jcamins I think I'll need a nap after I finish the search rewrite. :P 15:55 jcamins lol 15:55 kf and you will need some work when you finish the search rewrite :) 15:55 kf yeah... but one can dream 15:50 jcamins We'd need the search rewrite PLUS a new search interface. 15:50 kf can't build that into the current search, I know 15:50 kf we wuld need a new search 15:50 kf yeah 15:50 jcamins The problem there is we don't have an interface for lists. 15:49 kf but that's a different story 15:49 kf like... make me a list of all items at locatoin X 15:49 kf I woudl like a real item search option somewhere 15:49 kf nice 15:48 jcamins One could even conceivably start by adding support for real AND queries over item fields. 15:39 jcamins Put something at the beginning of getRecords that tries the new parser. 15:39 kf cool :) 15:38 jcamins Sure. 15:38 kf if you can do that? 15:38 kf ah 15:38 jcamins Step 3: sorry, no luck with what we have so far... no problem, we'll just use C4::Search. 15:37 jcamins Step 2: If we succeeded, great, send that search through the new interface. 15:37 jcamins Step 1: try to parse search using new parser. 15:37 jcamins It would look like this: 15:37 jcamins We could rewrite the query parser/search engine interface in an iterative fashion. 15:34 kf aha 15:33 jcamins There is nothing that says the entire query parser has to be rewritten at once. 15:32 jcamins Yup. :) 15:32 kf nice mail about kohacon :) 15:31 jcamins lol 15:31 kf I am doing it wrong again? 15:31 jcamins I realized how we could slice up the search rewrite a bit more. 15:31 kf I am still here. 15:31 kf hm? 15:31 jcamins Mmmm... possibly wise. 15:29 jcamins Apparently the entire continent of Europe sensed it and ran away. 15:29 jcamins Hey! I had an idea. 15:16 * jcamins will ask fredericd about getting a new set of files for the 22nd. 15:15 jcamins Looks like Danish, Lao, Tetun, and Finnish have all be updated since 3.6.7. 15:14 jcamins So I guess the question is whether there has been any further translation on 3.6.x since 3.6.7. 15:11 jcamins I think the are. 15:10 kf the patches should be an improvement I hope - not breaking soemthing that wasn't before 15:10 kf yeah 15:08 jcamins I don't think it's that critical... it's *always* been broken. 15:08 kf maybe new bug? 15:08 kf jcamins: I think we will have to figure out how the subject works, but probably can't do that today 15:07 jcamins kf: your patches worked fine, except for the subject. 15:07 kf I mean fredericd: hope it was ok to add the languages 15:07 jcamins kf: what? 15:07 kf hm 15:07 kf jcamins: hope it was ok with the languages. 15:02 kf eythian: good that I don't actually see you then 15:01 fredericd jcamins: thks. Great. It will help me a lot (very poor internet access) 15:01 kf ah right... yeah I have to lock him up in there until it's done... eh...I meant buy him chocolate... and try other bribery 15:00 * druthb has been kinda stealthy for a while. 15:00 * eythian will have to buy a nerf gun or something to take advantage of this situation. 15:00 * jcamins whispers something to kf about eythian's work on localizing the packages. :D 15:00 jcamins Of course! 15:00 oleonard Long time no see druthb 15:00 druthb lucky eythian, too! 15:00 druthb hi, wizzyrea! :) 15:00 jcamins Lucky kf! 14:59 * kf has eythian sitting next door now, it's weird to see him write something here :) 14:59 jcamins fredericd: not really, no. 14:59 * wizzyrea waves at druthb 14:59 druthb hi, kf and eythian! :) 14:58 eythian hiya druthb 14:58 * druthb goes :P at jcamins 14:57 kf hi druthb :) 14:57 jcamins I'll check, but now that you mention it, I suspect not. 14:57 jcamins fredericd: good question. 14:57 * jcamins cheers at the druthb sighting. 14:57 eythian ah yep. Handy hint: if you forget to create the staff user for SIP to use, it doesn't tell you what's wrong. 14:56 kf fredericd: only de-CH is new, de_ch in pootle I think, and I added fi-FI to 3.8 - was already there for older versions 14:56 fredericd jcamins: Is 3.6.x .po files update really required? 14:55 druthb o/ 14:55 jcamins Actually, 3.6.x is basically frozen now since I won't consider any further patches. 14:54 jcamins I need to announce that. 14:54 jcamins Ah, yes, string freeze. 14:54 fredericd mveron++ 14:54 jcamins fredericd: ooh, lucky you! 14:54 fredericd jcamins: waves have non-metaphoric meaning for me during vacation 14:54 * mveron has to head to the door, somebody calling... 14:54 mveron fredericd: We added German (Swiss) de-CH http://translate.koha-community.org/de_CH/38/ 14:52 mveron Hi again #koha 14:52 eythian I think I know what it is though... 14:52 eythian wizzyrea: login, it was returning a status code that isn't what is "expected" 14:51 * jcamins waves to fredericd. 14:51 wizzyrea what isn't working? 14:51 fredericd kf: which languages have you added to pottle 3.8 project? 14:47 eythian it isn't for me, or it is and I can't tell because it's under-documented. 14:46 kf I thought it did :) 14:46 eythian making SIP work 14:46 kf eythian: what are you working on? 14:46 eythian that was the first place I looked :) 14:46 kf eythian: hm not in the sip logs I assume? 14:45 magnuse have fun #koha 14:43 eythian Oh good, if I put a 'die' into the sip server code to trace things, it doesn't get logged anywhere. 14:35 kf u 14:35 kf thank yo 14:35 jcamins Signed off. 14:31 jcamins I'll amend your commit to remove the extra encode_qp. 14:30 jcamins Okay. 14:29 kf see here 14:29 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=696fc0ff22fac839e97b9f9caddda99ff89d9ffc 14:29 kf so it would be consistent within koha 14:29 kf it's the way the list does it 14:28 jcamins And we can try to fix the subject further. 14:28 jcamins However, perhaps that's the best option. 14:28 jcamins kf: that works with gmail, but probably nothing else. 14:28 kf just delete the encode_pq 14:27 kf jcamins: can you remove the encoding frm the subject line? 14:27 wizzyrea oh boy. 14:26 eythian wizzyrea: yeah. Things like "The expected response is '941'". I'm getting '940' and I don't know what that means. 14:25 wizzyrea don't they. sure wish they were properly in the manual. 14:25 jcamins I guess I can sign off on the patches as "better than before." 14:25 eythian the instructions on setting up SIP seem to be terribly unclear :/ 14:25 jcamins I don't see how to get it to work. 14:23 kf I guess we are missing some of that 14:23 kf hm, that link looks interesting: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4389676/php-email-header-subject-encoding-problem 14:20 jcamins THat didn't help. 14:20 jcamins Well... wow. 14:20 jcamins Wait, I think I found the problem. 14:19 kf probably a different bug make all our mails work the same... :( 14:19 kf not sure if we ever got tofix that 14:19 kf for along time umlauts wouldn't work in some of our messages - like the checkin notice. It should be Rückgabequittung in German 14:18 jcamins kf: I can't mail you because of the spam filters. 14:18 clrh ok thanks ;) 14:18 khall clrh: indeed. Will do 14:18 kf I can test outlook... but you have to mail me :( 14:18 kf jcamins: :( 14:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8015 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Add MARC Modifications Templates 14:17 clrh khall: hello, question about bug 8015 - did you plan to sign off Joubu 's followup ? 14:17 jcamins Phooey. 14:17 jcamins No, it re-encodes. 14:17 jcamins I'll try forwarding. 14:16 jcamins Um. 14:15 eythian ah, that may be an issue 14:15 jcamins t e-mail anyone but myself... 14:15 jcamins I can' 14:15 jcamins I have a non-static IP. 14:15 jcamins Ah, this is problematic. 14:14 jcamins eythian: yeah, that's my theory. 14:14 eythian although it still hasn't arrived... 14:14 wizzyrea JING 14:14 eythian if it's wrong, it'll look quite bad 14:14 jcamins It should look like this: http://translate.google.com/#en/ar/Your%20library 14:14 jcamins Oh, err, I'm probably the only one who can read the Arabic to confirm it came through correctly. 14:13 jcamins oleonard: gesendet. :) 14:13 eythian oleonard: no, .nz is OK with that kind of thing :) 14:13 oleonard jcamins: owen@czechprimer.org 14:13 wizzyrea heh 14:13 oleonard There goes eythian's security clearance 14:12 jcamins oleonard: I'll take it. Your usual e-mail? 14:12 jcamins You should have an e-mail with an Arabic subject in your box right about now, eythian. 14:12 * oleonard can offer to test a crappy webmail one 14:12 wizzyrea but no outlook :( 14:12 wizzyrea i have a mac mail-y one 14:11 eythian jup 14:11 jcamins eythian: excellent. Your regular e-mail address good? 14:11 eythian You might even call it thunderbird... 14:11 eythian jcamins: I have a thunderbird-y one handy. 14:10 jcamins wizzyrea: Outlook-y ones and Thunderbird-y ones. 14:10 oleonard Saying some email clients are more stupid than others is the understatement of the 21st century. 14:10 wizzyrea which ones do you want 14:09 jcamins Who has multiple e-mail clients set up? 14:09 jcamins That's going to be tricky. 14:09 jcamins eythian: ooh, good call. 14:09 jcamins Works with Russian. 14:09 eythian jcamins: make sure you test a couple of email clients. Some are a bit more stupid than others. 14:09 wizzyrea also hi 14:09 wizzyrea it has options for it in the drop downs 14:09 wizzyrea oleonard: I think it does 14:08 oleonard Or does a "regular" guided report even let you enter runtime parameters? 14:08 jcamins Hm. No problem with simple diacritics. 14:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8596 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Reports interface date picker doesn't force ISO formatted dates 14:07 * oleonard is working on Bug 8596 14:07 oleonard SQL reports require date parameters to be input formatted as ISO. Do guided reports? 14:06 jcamins But if the subject had actual accented characters, I expect it would not work. 14:06 jcamins By removing the encode_qp, I get it to work. 14:00 eythian basically, the formatting of the body doesn't apply to the subject 14:00 eythian http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4389676/php-email-header-subject-encoding-problem <-- also this 13:58 eythian RFC 3490 provides support for encoding non-ASCII domain names in the Domain Name System 13:58 eythian RFC 2047 provides support for encoding non-ASCII values such as real names and subject lines in email headers 13:58 eythian To use Unicode in email subject lines and email addresses two different standards need to be used to retrofit the handling of non-ASCII data to the originally ASCII-only email protocol: 13:58 kf but not much wiser than before 13:58 kf eythian: if you have a suggestion I am all ears - I have been googling and searching around a lot about this 13:58 eythian there's some oddball stuff to do with encoding and subjects I think 13:58 * jcamins doesn't know. 13:58 kf and it didn't happen in my tests this morning. hm. 13:57 kf i wonder if you are not supposed to use it for the subject - but shouldn't it all be the same encoding? 13:57 kf that didn't happen for me 13:57 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 13:57 kf oh interesting 13:56 jcamins The subject of the e-mail: Ihr Korb=20= 13:56 jcamins kf: I found a problem. 13:56 bornie21 hey guys I am having problems with Zebra cron job settings.If I manually rebuild the indexes are updated but the cron is nt running any help 13:55 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails The Indiana Supreme Court Law Library Goes Live on Koha with ByWater Solutions http://t.co/v9Gv1LOU" 13:55 jcamins Well, option A is like it was right before I signed off. 13:54 kf hm actually option b is closer to our old layout I think 13:51 jcamins Option B is "let's make it look good *and* work." 13:51 jcamins Option A was "the way we've always had it only working." 13:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8621 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Template for sending out carts not formatting correctly 13:51 jcamins bug 8621. 13:50 magnuse jcamins and kf: which bug are you talking about? 13:50 jcamins :) 13:50 jcamins The first is hideous. 13:50 jcamins By a lot. 13:50 jcamins kf: I like the second better. 13:49 jcamins I need a kiosk interface which doesn't allow logins, but does include all search functionality, so I'm kind of stuck with a theme. 13:49 magnuse oh it does? good! ;-) 13:49 jcamins *Makes 13:49 jcamins MAkes sense. 13:48 magnuse in a way it will be a bit like the sco screen 13:48 magnuse jcamins: i think that is my plan, yes :-) 13:47 jcamins magnuse: and you'll just not use any of the standard includes + disable navigation? 13:43 kf so the first bug fixes the layout - offering 2 different ways, the second fixes the links 13:43 kf but thelayout is broken if you have records with and without items mixed 13:42 kf there are no links at all now 13:42 kf yep 13:42 jcamins None yet. 13:42 clrh ok 13:42 kf which patch did you apply? 13:42 Joubu clrh: coding guidelines (http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#Perl) say we have to use strict and warnings. It's not mandatory to use Modern::Perl 13:42 magnuse jcamins: hm, can't find it in the logs. but the plan is to use jqm on a single page that will be the signs. so not a new theme per se 13:42 jcamins kf: I don't see any links in the cart e-mails right now. 13:41 jcamins clrh: ah, yes, there is a lot of discussion. :) 13:41 clrh jcamins: ok - just reading the discussion, didn't seen last comments 13:40 jcamins If I missed a file, let me know and I'll fix it. 13:39 jcamins clrh: I switched to Modern::Perl. 13:39 clrh Joubu: "For new files, I think a best practice is to use "use Modern::Perl" instead of "use strict; use warnings; But nothing is written on the wiki. You are free to keep these lines." 7417#c13 I thought it was really a new practice (already discussed) 13:38 * oleonard reads digital signs and thinks of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Boston_bomb_scare 13:37 jcamins I said I thought you were planning on doing a theme so that it would work on a kiosk. That was actually all the discussion. 13:37 magnuse oh, i better read the log then, 1 sec 13:36 jcamins It was under discussion yesterday after you'd left. :) 13:36 jcamins magnuse: how are you planning on implementing the digital signs? 13:35 magnuse clrh++ 13:34 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "The Indiana Supreme Court Law Library Goes Live on Koha with ByWater Solutions http://t.co/2yMPB9z1 #kohails" 13:34 eythian http://wtfnasa.com/ 13:34 kf clrh: yep, little things are important :) 13:32 jcamins clrh++ 13:32 clrh (little thinks are important too, ok) 13:31 clrh kf :) I just did a clone + zip command + upload hum 13:30 kf clrh++ 13:30 mbalmer I don't know, but I can get you a copy for sure 13:29 kf mbalmer: cool :) not sure if we are subscribed to that - will it be available online too? maybe later? 13:17 oleonard Or more accurately, diffusive. 13:16 oleonard Culture is invasive. 13:15 mtompset Twitter is quite invasive of culture. :) 13:15 mtompset Hey, in the last Canadian election, Jack Layton (may he rest in peace) even talked about the government's actions being a #fail. ;) 13:14 mbalmer the next edition of 'SAB Info', the Swiss journal for librarians, will contain an article on Koha (written by mveron & co.) 13:14 jcamins eythian: lol 13:14 oleonard Oh, okay. 13:14 eythian jcamins: I mean tv shows putting a #something on the screen, they never say what server it's on! 13:13 eythian oleonard: so far as I know, twitter originated the @username convention. 13:13 jcamins eythian: there's only one #koha. :) 13:13 oleonard eythian: ? 13:13 oleonard I think some chat protocols use the @ differently? I assume mbalmer is not using Twitter syntax. 13:13 eythian I also don't understand why people are so often talking about channels without saying what server they're on. 13:12 mbalmer thanks, oleonard! 13:12 eythian IRC predates twitter. 13:12 mbalmer oh, I see 13:12 wahanui oleonard: I forgot mbalmer 13:12 oleonard wahanui: forget mbalmer 13:12 oleonard The @ is only used for some commands (@later for instance) 13:12 oleonard mbalmer: If you want to talk directly to someone, including wahanui, you can't use the @ 13:07 mbalmer (and probably more '$', too) 13:06 mbalmer but it was wrong. that ballmer has two 'l's 13:03 * mtompset liked the DEVELOPERS! 3x bit. 12:48 huginn mbalmer: downloading the Perl source 12:48 mbalmer @wahanui forget mbalmer 12:45 tcohen hi oleonard 12:45 oleonard Hi #koha 12:20 clrh in the manifest of firefox addon I have a wrong mail - what should I put ? koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org ? 12:20 clrh I am trying to package the new koct plugin (with translations) 11:40 wahanui i heard mbalmer was DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS!!!!! 11:40 mveron mbalmer? 11:40 wahanui mveron is from switzerland, a koha developer and creating some nice new features! 11:40 mbalmer mveron? 11:28 user2 ohh... thank you very much jcamins , and thank you all members for supporting 11:28 jcamins Right. 11:27 user2 jcamins, so for a library which catalogues more than 10,000 in a month(mostly the beginning time), it is not recommended using in the form <branch code> yymm0001, right ? 11:25 jcamins With any other scheme you will. 11:25 jcamins No, you won't have to rebarcode. 11:24 user2 and finished 9999 , so if we change to 1,2,3 etc , will it affect the existing records? , need rebarcode whole things ? 11:23 user2 now we are using "generated in the form <branch code> yymm0001" 11:23 jcamins user2: 1, 2, 3, etc. 11:22 user2 jcamins, generated in the form <year>001, <year>002." OR "generated in the form 1,2,3." ? 11:21 jcamins That would not require you to do any rebarcoding. 11:21 jcamins user2: you could use the autobarcode scheme that just counts up. 11:20 user2 jcamins, so i there any solution for now we can do 11:17 jcamins If you change the code, though, you'll have to rebarcode everything. 11:17 user2 ok 11:17 jcamins The barcode is actually handled by cataloguing/value_builder/barcode.pl. 11:17 jcamins Not there. 11:17 user2 $width = 4; # FIXME: 4 is too small for sizeable or multi-branch libraries. 11:16 user2 lib/C4/Barcodes/hbyymmincr.pm , can we edit and increase the $width 11:16 jcamins It would not. 11:16 kf I am not sure it woudl count up then 11:15 kf like create the first number for september? 11:15 kf maybe you could cheat and pretend it was already next month? 11:15 eythian If not, you're constrained by the format you chose really. 11:15 eythian is there another value you could bump up temporarily? 11:14 kf but we don't have a library using it 11:14 kf I think it should turnover next month yes 11:14 user2 so we have to wait for next month kf_lunch 11:13 jcamins Shouldn't you be asleep? 11:13 rangi heh 11:13 rangi /ws 28 11:06 kf_lunch user2: you get a new range of numbers next month 10:54 user2 is there anyway to increase the limit in autobarcode generator ? 10:37 user2 is this the limitation in autobarcode 10:36 user2 but we have already choose <branch code> yymm0001 10:36 user2 other forms are "generated in the form <year>001, <year>002." and "generated in the form 1,2,3." 10:34 mtompset Isn't there another automatic barcode scheme that you could have chosen? 10:33 user2 but the autobarcode reset to 0001 after reaching 9999 10:33 * mtompset nods. 10:33 user2 mtompset, not in one day, we have started two weeks before 10:32 mtompset Oh... yy mm... yuck./ 10:31 mtompset I'd spend the rest of the day making sure the barcodes are affixed to the items. 9999 items per day is pretty productive. 10:29 user2 we have more than 2lakhs books 10:28 user2 s/kohs/koha 10:28 user2 kf, we are implemented kohs this month and started cataloguing 10:26 kf if you get more than 9999 books in a month, it's a problem 10:26 kf user2: I think that's a problem with the barcode schema 10:19 user2 any solution ? 10:19 user2 the bar code now is reset to NLC12080001 which can not be also saved because it exist 10:18 user2 now we have reached NLC12089999 10:17 user2 i have enabled autobarcode generate in the form <branch code> yy mm 0001 10:15 francharb kf, thanks a lot, it works! 10:15 eythian quite possible, but either way, the bug is not going to help you. 10:14 kf eythian: yeah but mail configuraton on the pootle server maybe? 10:14 kf I deleted francharb. and activated francharb - check if permissions work 10:14 kf oh and try again 10:14 eythian The bug is a mail server misconfiguration, not a pootle issue 10:14 user2 hi 10:13 kf I am not sure it's the same problem 10:13 kf I mean the bug is old 10:13 kf I had 3 or 4 people reporting the problem and this seems to be an old version of pootle 10:13 kf hm 10:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=137 normal, P2, ---, chris, RESOLVED MOVED, It's hard (impossible?) to delete a biblioitem which has no items. 10:13 francharb Bug 137 - Mail not sent to registered users 10:12 huginn 04Bug 137: normal, P2, ---, chris, RESOLVED MOVED, It's hard (impossible?) to delete a biblioitem which has no items. 10:12 francharb kf, it looks like this one : http://bugs.locamotion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137 10:12 francharb no problem 10:11 kf sorry had a phone call 10:11 kf or he will know how email is set up 10:11 kf francharb: I think it's pootle 10:11 francharb kf, I will write fredericd about this, maybe the problem doesn"t come from pootle... 10:11 mtompset bash 10:11 wahanui you are probably currently in the Philippines and is coding up a bash script storm in the midst of seasonal typhoons. 10:11 mtompset mtompset 10:10 wahanui mtompset? 10:10 mtompset wahanui 10:10 mtompset brooke 10:10 wahanui francharb falls asleep easily at sea. Don't believe me? Just ask Brooke. 10:10 mtompset francharb 10:05 francharb yes please 10:05 francharb yep 10:05 kf the one with the dot? 10:05 kf want me to delete one? 10:05 wahanui francharb falls asleep easily at sea. Don't believe me? Just ask Brooke. 10:05 kf and francharb 10:05 wahanui francharb falls asleep easily at sea. Don't believe me? Just ask Brooke. 10:05 kf francharb. 10:04 kf I see 2 accounts for you 10:04 kf ok 10:04 kf would be cool if you could file a bug for fredericd 10:04 kf yep 10:04 francharb kf, report a bug on the pootle project? 10:03 kf I had to manually activate lotsof accounts recently 10:03 francharb but I didn't get the confirmation email 10:03 kf maybe we should file a bug 10:03 kf It seems emailing is broken 10:03 kf hm 10:03 francharb and created a new account 10:03 francharb yep 10:03 kf requesting a new password maybe? 10:03 francharb kf yep 10:03 kf ok, did you do something? 10:02 wahanui francharb falls asleep easily at sea. Don't believe me? Just ask Brooke. 10:02 francharb francharb 10:02 kf what's your user name? 10:02 kf let me check 10:02 kf ok 10:02 francharb kf, I can't log in to my pootle account 10:01 francharb kf, hi 10:01 kf true 09:59 eythian 'cept the weather is better 09:59 eythian heh 09:58 kf this feels a bit like scotland 09:31 kf that is weird. 09:30 eythian hi kf 09:29 rangi hi kf 09:29 kf good morning #koha 09:24 mtompset rangi++ 09:22 rangi yeah, me either 09:22 eythian Ok cool. Still not sure how he managed to not have backups. 09:21 rangi at least it was upgrading when he left 09:21 rangi apparently so 09:19 eythian did you get it working? 09:18 rangi south pacific solidarity :) 09:16 magnuse rangi++ 09:13 ala_3vo see you again...have to leave 09:12 rangi cool 09:12 ala_3vo Thanks wahanui, rangi, and #koha. Its 8 pm now in the solomons. 09:10 ala_3vo rangi Yes, its upgrading now. 09:09 rangi no problem, it's all working now? 09:08 ala_3vo okay, thanks for the tip. 09:06 wahanui well, apt-get upgrade is a lot easier ;-) 09:06 rangi apt-get upgrade 09:06 ala_3vo rangi, how do I upgrade? 09:05 drojf he lives in his own world 09:05 drojf hm 09:05 wahanui drojf: that doesn't look right 09:05 drojf change wahanui 09:05 wahanui drojf: I forgot change 09:05 drojf wahanui: forget change 09:05 rangi yep, give it a whirl now 09:04 ala_3vo thanks 09:04 ala_3vo yes 09:04 rangi ala_3vo: did the apt-get update suceed? 09:04 wahanui eythian: I forgot something 09:04 eythian wahanui: forget something 09:04 eythian or not. 09:04 wahanui eythian: that doesn't look right 09:04 eythian change something to something else 09:04 wahanui somebody said something was something 09:04 eythian wahanui: something 09:03 wahanui okay, eythian. 09:03 eythian no wahanui, something is something 09:03 ala_3vo rangi can I apt-get install koha-common now 09:03 wahanui ...but something is <reply>... 09:03 eythian wahanui: something is something 09:03 wahanui eythian: sorry... 09:03 eythian wahanui: something 09:03 wahanui drojf: that doesn't look right 09:03 drojf change wahanui 09:03 ala_3vo its done 09:02 eythian I assume you can say "change something to something else" 09:02 eythian looks like 09:02 rangi yep thats it 09:02 wahanui rangi: that doesn't look right 09:02 rangi change something 09:02 rangi i think its change 09:02 eythian yeah, I'm not sure what it's responding to there. 09:01 rangi eythian: we really should fix wahanui 09:01 wahanui rangi: that doesn't look right 09:01 rangi change that one to http too please instead of ftp 09:00 ala_3vo Err ftp://debian.ihug.co.nz squeeze/updates/contrib Sources Unable to connect to debian.ihug.co.nz:ftp: 08:56 rangi deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib 08:55 wahanui rangi: that doesn't look right 08:55 rangi change that line to 08:55 rangi ala_3vo: ok, you could try this instead 08:55 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Woodfield, London, Ontario is 18.0°C (4:53 AM EDT on August 14, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 08:55 mtompset @wunder london, ontario 08:55 mtompset as IS London. 08:55 * mtompset laughs, "as it london." 08:55 huginn mtompset: Error: No such location could be found. 08:55 mtompset @wunder london 08:54 drojf heh 08:54 eythian Berlin is a myth 08:54 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 20.2°C (10:42 AM CEST on August 14, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 08:54 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 08:54 huginn drojf: Error: No such location could be found. 08:54 eythian it is. Looks like it'll warm up a bit more too. 08:54 drojf @wunder berlin 08:53 mtompset Sounds like a nice day there. 08:53 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 21.7°C (10:50 AM CEST on August 14, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 08:53 mtompset @wunder Konstanz 08:53 * eythian is just getting set up in Konstanz 08:52 ala_3vo I stll have error messages 08:52 eythian hello 08:52 wahanui eythian is, like, in NZ. ;) or a good influence 08:52 rangi hey eythian 08:49 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Honiara, Solomon Islands is 27.0°C (7:00 PM SBT on August 14, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). 08:49 magnuse @wunder Honiara 08:49 mtompset Never mind... I had scrolled back. :) 08:49 mtompset that wouldn't make sense, because then all your apt-get stuff would fail, not just selected items. 08:45 rangi and try apt-get update again 08:45 rangi then save the file 08:45 rangi deb http://debian.ihug.co.nz/debian/ squeeze main contrib 08:45 rangi to be 08:45 rangi deb ftp://debian.ihug.co.nz/debian/ squeeze main contrib 08:45 wahanui rangi: that doesn't look right 08:45 rangi change this line 08:45 rangi sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list 08:45 rangi ok 08:44 ala_3vo gedit 08:44 rangi ala_3vo: do you have a text editor you prefer? 08:44 ala_3vo okay, yes that right. 08:44 drojf heh rangi nows everybody related to koha 08:44 rangi robin was doing the training 08:44 rangi ala_3vo:yep i met you then 08:43 ala_3vo yes, 2 months ago 08:43 mveron hi drojf 08:43 drojf hi mveron 08:43 rangi ala_3vo: didn't you visit nz for some training? 08:43 mveron Hi everybody #koha 08:43 ala_3vo I'm really new with koha 08:43 ala_3vo rangi, that must be a different person 08:42 rangi yep thats the problem, you could try this 08:41 rangi ah ha 08:41 ala_3vo it says unable to fetch file. 08:40 rangi ahhhh, thats right i met you a while back :) 08:40 magnuse ala_3vo: if you set 1 channel = #koha, 2. your nick = ala_3vo, 3. summary = some description of what you paste -- then the url of what you pasted be automagically visible here :-) 08:39 ala_3vo I'm in the solomon islands 08:39 rangi i wont know unless you show us the error :) 08:39 rangi where in nz are you anyway? 08:39 ala_3vo can that be firewall issue? 08:39 ala_3vo there was an error 08:38 rangi not sure whats up, the apt-get update succeeded eh? 08:38 rangi 0.14-1 0 08:38 rangi Version table: 08:38 rangi Candidate: 0.14-1 08:38 rangi Installed: (none) 08:38 rangi libtest-strict-perl: 08:38 rangi apt-cache policy libtest-strict-perl 08:37 rangi http://debian.ihug.co.nz/debian/pool/main/libt/libtest-strict-perl/ 08:35 rangi i wonder if the ihug mirror is out of date 08:34 ala_3vo the paste of sources.list 08:34 ala_3vo http://paste.koha-community.org/103?tx=on&submit=Format+it%21 08:32 rangi yep 08:32 mtompset something has to be wrong with sources.list and sources.list.d/* 08:32 rangi cat /etc/apt/sources.list 08:32 rangi can you do 08:32 rangi that should be in squeeze/main 08:31 rangi hmmm 08:30 * mtompset notices how useful apt-cache policy is becoming in this debugging process. 08:30 ala_3vo libtest-strict-perl: Installed: (none) Candidate: (none) Version table: 08:30 rangi say? 08:30 rangi apt-cache policy libtest-strict-perl 08:29 rangi what does 08:29 rangi those packages should be in there 08:29 ala_3vo debian squeeze 6 08:29 ala_3vo yes 08:28 mtompset You are using debian, right? 08:27 ala_3vo http://paste.koha-community.org/102?tx=on&submit=Format+it%21 08:26 rangi what is the url of the page you are now looking at? 08:26 rangi you mustnt have chosen the channel or pastebot would have told us the url 08:24 ala_3vo rangi, I believe I've send it 08:23 rangi did you choose the channel to be #koha 08:22 ala_3vo ok, it should be there 08:21 ala_3vo thanks magnuse 08:21 magnuse ala_3vo: go to that url and fill in the info it asks for 08:21 wahanui rumour has it paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org 08:21 magnuse paste? 08:20 ala_3vo I'm new to the paste, how to I do it? 08:19 wahanui rumour has it the url is horrid :) 08:19 rangi whats the url? 08:19 rangi no 08:18 ala_3vo have you seen the paste? 08:18 ala_3vo yes 08:17 rangi you are running debian squeeze eh? 08:16 rangi and paste the output of that 08:16 rangi can you try the apt-get install koha-common again 08:16 * drojf hits the shower 08:16 rangi to paste things 08:16 rangi ala_3vo: its better if you use http://paste.koha-community.org/ 08:15 ala_3vo Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required: libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. 08:14 rangi you are missing a dependency i bet 08:14 rangi apt-get -f install 08:14 rangi there ya go, thats why it wouldnt update 08:13 ala_3vo I've got broken packages 08:13 rangi is what i said when you asked 08:13 rangi 19:53 < rangi> ive never used it 08:13 rangi 19:52 < rangi> you might be better off asking on the marcedit mailing list 08:13 mib_vh4gd4 am really sorry i got disconnected im the one who was asking about call number 08:13 rangi you can change your sources.list file 08:12 rangi if you want to go to 3.6.7 08:12 rangi that is if you want to go to 3.8.3 08:12 rangi sudo apt-get install koha-common 08:12 rangi try this 08:11 ala_3vo koha-common: Installed: 3.6.4-1 Candidate: 3.8.3.1-1 Version table: 3.8.3.1-1 0 500 http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ squeeze/main i386 Packages *** 3.6.4-1 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 08:10 pastebot "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "my apt-cache output" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/98 08:09 rangi apt-cache policy is very very handy 08:07 rangi what i asked him to try would tell us if it was pinned anyway 08:07 mtompset True... just thought I'd mention it, lest someone forget that possibility. 08:07 rangi mtompset: lets just try one thing first eh 08:07 mtompset did you pin it? 08:06 mtompset OR... 08:05 rangi that url to paste the output 08:05 wahanui it has been said that paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org 08:05 rangi paste? 08:05 rangi then use 08:05 rangi apt-cache policy koha-common 08:05 rangi sounds to me like your sources.list is messed up 08:05 ala_3vo 3.06.04.000 08:05 rangi try this 08:05 rangi is it 3.6.7 ? 08:04 rangi it will be 3.6.something 08:04 rangi it wont be 3.6 08:03 ala_3vo I have tried sudo apt-get update", "sudo apt-get upgrade" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to upgrade koha 3.6 to latest version but it is still 3.6. Anything I missed? 07:55 rangi ive never used it 07:54 rangi you might be better off asking on the marcedit mailing list 07:53 mib_h4c4fn records* 07:53 mib_h4c4fn sorry i wasnt here .....no i dont have the Call Numbers.....the marc edit tool has a function which Generate Call Numbers for you .. i want to know how to use that...or how should i make call numbers for my recored? 07:42 drojf isn't there a touch-all-biblios script or something? maybe have a look at that 07:39 mtompset No, as a perl script I'm writing. 07:39 sophie_m mtompset: with a report ? 07:37 mtompset Is there a koha library way of running through the biblionumbers? Or do I have to open the DB myself? 07:37 gaetan_B :d 07:36 drojf hahaha 07:36 mtompset But after getting frustrated with them one day, I considered the possibility that they missed an o. ;) 07:35 drojf :) 07:35 mtompset That is a thought that crossed my mind when I first saw that. 07:34 drojf so our translation po-files are very respectful? i like that 07:33 mtompset However, depending on relationship closeness and/or age differences, you usually add "po" to show respect. 07:33 mtompset Salamat is thank you. 07:32 drojf rangi: oh yes, forgot about a possible -dev package 07:30 mtompset But I'm Canadian, so I'll take English. :) 07:29 mtompset Magandang hapon. 07:29 gaetan_B ah mtompset, so what would it be where you are ? selamat something ? 07:28 gaetan_B hello magnuse :) 07:26 magnuse hiya mtompset gaetan_B rangi 07:26 * mtompset is aware it is evening where you are. It's afternoon here. :) 07:25 rangi ala_3vo: if you are getting 3.9 then you need to check your sources.list you might have the development repository .. it shoulld be squeeze not squeeze-dev 07:25 drojf hi rangi 07:25 mtompset afternoon, rangi. ;) 07:24 rangi evening 07:23 mtompset It would be funnier and cooler to use 'and salutations', gaetan_B. ;) 07:23 gaetan_B greetings mtompset :) 07:23 mtompset Greetings, Joubu 07:23 wahanui i guess mtompset is currently in the Philippines and is coding up a bash script storm in the midst of seasonal typhoons. 07:23 drojf hey mtompset 07:23 mtompset Greetings, gaetan_B 07:22 mtompset Greetings, drojf and magnuse 07:13 magnuse hiya drojf 07:13 drojf hei magnuse 07:12 * magnuse waves from his little cabin in the woods 07:12 ala_3vo thanks drojf, I'll try that out. 07:09 drojf and an up to date system in general 07:09 drojf that should get you to the latest koha version 07:09 drojf ala_3vo: do "sudo apt-get update". after that is run through, do "sudo apt-get upgrade". if you get a message that koha-common was held back, do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". 07:07 drojf ala_3vo: that is the database version probably, the package should be 3.8.something 07:07 gaetan_B hello 07:07 ala_3vo I have tried installing koha-common and have got koha 3.9 07:07 drojf you should keep your system up to date anyway, so you should upgrade everything, not just the koha package 07:06 drojf 3.8 is the latest version btw 07:06 drojf so that won't work 07:06 drojf no, you already have it installed 07:06 ala_3vo can I just apt-get install koha-common? 07:05 drojf ala_3vo: the normal upgrade like with other packages. apt-get update; apt-get upgrade. or maybe apt-get dist-upgrade 07:05 ala_3vo I believe the current version is 3.9 07:05 francharb guten tag drojf ;) 07:04 ala_3vo koha 3.6 to current version 07:04 drojf bonjour francharb 07:04 drojf ala_3vo: what version? 07:04 francharb hi #koha 07:04 ala_3vo This is upgrading koha-common on debian squeeze. 07:02 ala_3vo hi #koha, how do you do upgrade of koha? 07:01 Joubu hello #koha 06:47 drojf good morning #koha 06:42 cait brb 06:36 mtompset Is there a way to batch edit the marcxml? 06:35 sophie_m hi mtompset :-) 06:35 mtompset bonjour, sophie_m hdl :) 06:15 mtompset It uses copyrightdate to display elsewhere. 06:15 mtompset You were right, cait. It doesn't fall back. It uses the marcxml to display/edit in that particular tab. 06:12 mtompset I'm not really familiar with MarcEdit either. 06:12 mtompset Maybe this video will help? 06:12 mtompset http://bywatersolutions.com/2012/01/18/using-marcedit-to-add-koha-items/ 06:11 wahanui irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ 06:11 mtompset irc logs? 06:11 mtompset I think... what was they tutorial link posted here yesterday? 06:09 mtompset What do you mean you don't have the call numbers? You should know what they are, but they aren't in your MARC file, right? 05:57 mib_h4c4fn so beside marc edit is there any way? 05:56 mib_h4c4fn its that i dont have the call numbers i want to generate them 05:56 cait marcedit doesn't run on linux, so I can't use it 05:56 cait maybe look for a function to copy from oen field into another 05:56 cait mib_h4c4fn: sorry, I don't know marcedit well enough here 05:55 mib_h4c4fn i have records with these tags and i want to generate Call Numbers for them with the marc edit tool 05:54 mib_h4c4fn =LDR ,=008 ,=020$a ,=041$a ,=100$a ,=245$a ,=260$a ,=260$b ,=260$c ,=300$a, =942$e 05:54 mib_h4c4fn hey i have some questions about Call Number 05:52 cait hi mib_h4c4fn 05:49 mib_h4c4fn hey :) 05:49 cait http://loc.gov/marc 05:49 cait marc21 standard 05:48 cait that's about cataloguing not koha 05:48 cait yes 05:46 mtompset No c, just a period. 05:46 mtompset I just did a random search now, and found ####. 05:46 mtompset sometimes I see c####. in 260$c, and sometimes I don't. 05:44 mtompset And look at 260$a and 260$c. 05:44 mtompset Go to the '2', so I can see 2XX fields. 05:44 mtompset well, there is a "normal" "marc" "labeled marc" etc. tabs on the left, I choose MARC after having done a search. 05:42 cait it's not exactly falling back afaik 05:42 cait which information koha pulls 05:42 cait it depends on where you are looking 05:42 cait hm no not really 05:41 mtompset That makes sense in a bizarre way! 05:41 mtompset AH... so if the copyright column is null, it pulls it from the marcxml? 05:40 cait the marcxml has c1999., the copyright column in the database has 1999 normalized 05:40 cait and that is in marc, the other is the database 05:40 cait isbd punctuation 05:40 cait period because of the standard 05:40 cait copyright 05:39 mtompset because even in 3.6.3 the copyrightdate is numeric only. 05:39 mtompset Where are the "c" and "." coming from? 05:39 mtompset and some only have 2001? 05:39 mtompset Why do some have MARC displaying c1999. 05:38 mtompset So, the next question... 05:25 cait it's more a matter of display than of anything else 05:25 cait but I think Koha doesn't care much if you don't 05:25 cait needs a period 05:25 cait if you stick to the standard very strictly - I think so 05:24 cait hm not sure I have the right answer 05:24 mtompset Do you know, cait? 05:23 mtompset Question... does the copyright date have to have a period on the end? 05:12 mtompset Greetings, mbalmer. 05:12 cait guten morgen :) 05:10 mbalmer guten morgen! 05:09 cait :) 05:02 mtompset Looks like I get to work on my Koha bugs today. 05:00 cait hi mtompset :) 05:00 mtompset Greetings, cait 04:24 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ranginui: "@3TomatoesShort we are working on integrating https://t.co/14Czoo9M with #kohails (you can use username/password now of course)" 02:18 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 02:10 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails How does a patch marked enhancement take to get into master http://t.co/ZF4GxCAx" 01:51 rangi cool 01:50 Judit http://www.facebook.com/pages/Koha-Community-Cafe/323847370751 00:45 Judit there is akoha community cafe in victoria- again on facebook 00:43 rangi in malaysia 00:42 rangi looks like its for the place KOHA not Koha the ILS :) 00:41 rangi cool! 00:41 rangi no i didnt 00:11 Judit did you know there is a facebook page for koha community? http://www.facebook.com/KOHA.COMMUNITY 00:11 Judit morning