Time Nick Message
23:56 koyauni so I should stop working on configuration and go for virtual one
23:54 mtj http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Virtual_Appliances
23:54 mtj koyauni, try a vmware / virtualbox koha first
23:53 koyauni http://www.packtpub.com/sites/default/files/0820-chapter-4-kohas-web-installer-crontab-and-other-server-configurations%20.pdf
23:53 koyauni what is koha web installer
23:48 koyauni I already did, they said they do not do tried party application
23:48 koyauni ohh you mean admin at herzner.com
23:46 mtj why not ask your dev, who successfully installed your debian-koha to help you?
23:44 mtj :)
23:44 mtj try to complete the install by yourself - no harm to try ...
23:42 koyauni but we have done this installation for now, what will happen to this
23:42 mtj ... for people who cant install a koha by themselves
23:41 mtj these are pre-installed and pre-configured
23:41 mtj http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Virtual_Appliances
23:40 mtj if you cant install koha yourself, then use a live-cd or vmware koha
23:39 koyauni so I have to get it up and running to show them
23:39 koyauni I am trying to tell uni that this will work
23:39 koyauni and only one
23:39 koyauni I am everyone!
23:38 mtj koyauni, ask your dev person to help you...
23:38 koyauni and I have to do it as there is no appreciation for new tech or solution
23:37 koyauni well here in Iraq, things has to happen
23:37 * rangi will be back later
23:37 rangi you have to learn a lot about server administration .. (not koha that bit is a lot easier)
23:37 rangi ill be back tomorrow if you want to continue then, or you can try to work through the instructions yourself .. but on your first day of linux .. this is a pretty ambitious task
23:36 koyauni I still need to work on this config page donot I
23:35 koyauni so we got this new one on Debian
23:35 * rangi doesnt get paid to help out in #koha .. it would be nice .. but I have to do the work i get paid to do as well
23:35 koyauni and we had problem to get Koha to work on it
23:35 koyauni no, it is CentOS
23:35 koyauni :(
23:35 rangi but yes you will need to do that, nothing is running on the old server eh?
23:34 rangi im going to have to get back to work im afraid
23:34 koyauni I need to change that to this new server
23:34 rangi the dns is pointing it to 69.64.90.112
23:34 koyauni that is my old server
23:33 rangi KoyaUniversity.org. 43200 IN A 69.64.90.112
23:33 rangi libraryadmin.KoyaUniversity.org. 14400 IN CNAME KoyaUniversity.org.
23:33 rangi becuase
23:33 rangi well then this wont work
23:33 koyauni no 88.198.51.202
23:31 rangi ifconfig will tell you
23:31 rangi 69.64.90.112 <-- that is the ipnumber of this server right?
23:31 koyauni ok
23:30 rangi just admin
23:30 rangi no
23:30 koyauni should this INTRASUFFIX="admin" be INTRASUFFIX="libraryadmin"
23:30 koyauni I have one IP only and this is subdomain to the main domain which is KoyaUniversity.org
23:29 rangi and it points to the ipnumber of the server eh?
23:29 koyauni I created libraryadmin.KoyaUniversity.org
23:27 rangi i don thtink creating the db with plesk will work, you are better of making plesk back up an existing database
23:27 Space_Librarian o/
23:26 rangi and INTRASUFFIX="admin"
23:26 rangi then INTRAPORT needs to be 80
23:26 rangi cool do that :)
23:26 rangi and it points to that machine?
23:26 koyauni I can create the admin as well
23:26 koyauni I just got the server today, I have created library.koyauniverstity.org
23:25 koyauni yes, as I am learning to do it :(
23:25 rangi you can yes .. do you have dns set up for that?
23:25 rangi actually are you going to be the system administrator for this system?
23:25 koyauni can we have libraryadmin.koyauniverstity.org/
23:24 rangi so, what url do you want that on?
23:24 koyauni but not use it yet but demo online
23:23 koyauni I have watched videos, lots of them
23:23 koyauni yes, we need that
23:23 rangi yes
23:23 koyauni you mean people at the library do admin work
23:23 rangi have you used koha before?
23:23 koyauni what is staff site,
23:23 koyauni I did not add it
23:22 rangi the packages do backups already
23:22 koyauni I want to use Plesk on the server to create the database so we can have autobackup a schedule on it
23:21 rangi and you havent answered my question above, this is important or you might put the wrong things in this file
23:21 rangi dont add that
23:21 koyauni DEFAULTSQL="/usr/share/koha/defaults.sql.gz" # only needed if you're pre-populating from another Koha database
23:21 koyauni we do not have this case
23:20 rangi yes
23:20 koyauni can I leave the #and line after that
23:19 koyauni DOMAIN=".koyauniversity.org" # Any library instance will be a subdomain of this string.
23:19 rangi do you want the staff site (koha has 2 sites, the opac and the staff site) to be at library.koyauniverstity.org too? but on a different port or do you want it to be on a different url?
23:18 rangi yes
23:18 koyauni so I have to create that first
23:18 rangi DOMAIN=".koyauniversity.org"
23:18 rangi add
23:18 rangi edit /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf
23:18 rangi now you need to edit the file
23:17 rangi ok
23:15 koyauni I hope I did not wipped the server :(
23:15 koyauni now done installing many many lines
23:15 koyauni this one libary.koyauniversity.org
23:14 rangi or something else
23:14 rangi ?
23:14 rangi or koha.libary.koyauniversity.org or opac.libary.koyauniversity.org
23:14 rangi actually do you want the opac to be libary.koyauniversity.org
23:13 rangi add this line
23:13 rangi edit /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf
23:13 rangi you need to now
23:12 rangi we aren't up to that yet
23:12 koyauni library.koyauniversity.org
23:12 koyauni how do I make sure that koha works in our sub domain only
23:10 rangi cool
23:10 koyauni only one option OK, and I said OK, now it does some further installation
23:10 rangi whats it saying, it should ask you questions
23:09 koyauni where to go from here
23:09 rangi thats good
23:06 koyauni Package configuration
23:06 koyauni now I have a blue screen and says
23:05 koyauni it is going and asked to say Y for taking 612 MB of space
23:05 rangi try the install line again now
23:05 rangi excellent
23:03 koyauni now it is done and it is in the list
23:01 rangi then run apt-get update
23:01 rangi yup
23:01 koyauni and then save
23:01 rangi exactly
23:01 koyauni deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main
23:01 koyauni ok, then I add this line to it
23:00 rangi you can do that by just editing one
23:00 rangi yep, you will have to make a new file
23:00 koyauni sources.list.d
22:59 koyauni the folder is empty
22:58 rangi you have sshed into the server eh?
22:58 koyauni ok
22:57 rangi To get the stable 3.8 release, add this to a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list file:
22:57 rangi you dont type that in
22:57 koyauni -bash: deb: command not found
22:57 koyauni it says
22:55 rangi yes
22:55 koyauni shall I do the stable one
22:55 rangi ahh yes you have to do that step
22:55 koyauni deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main
22:55 koyauni :) I did not do this
22:54 koyauni no I can not see it in the list
22:54 rangi if not sounds like you missed an earlier step
22:53 rangi was it in the list?
22:53 rangi apt-get update
22:53 rangi when you do
22:53 rangi no
22:49 koyauni wget http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc --2012-08-09 00:46:29-- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc Resolving debian.koha-community.org... 64.57.244.203 Connecting to debian.koha-community.org|64.57.244.203|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 26919 (26K) [text/plain] Saving to: âgpg.asc.7â 100%[=====
22:49 koyauni it has got that
22:47 koyauni no it is not
22:46 rangi was in that list?
22:46 rangi and debian.koha-community.org
22:44 koyauni long list and then Reading package lists... Done
22:43 rangi says that?
22:43 rangi apt-get update
22:40 koyauni yes still says unable to locate
22:39 rangi you have to be very careful not to skip steps
22:39 rangi have you done the apt-get update step?
22:39 koyauni apt-get install koha-common > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done > E: Unable to locate package koha-common
22:38 rangi apt-key add gpg.asc
22:37 rangi then
22:37 rangi if so
22:37 rangi if you do ls
22:37 rangi you should see a gpg.asc file there now
22:37 rangi well all that has done is downloaded the file
22:37 koyauni wget http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc
22:37 koyauni I think that did it :)
22:35 rangi wget http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc
22:35 rangi what happens when you just do
22:35 koyauni wget is already the newest version.
22:34 rangi cool just checking :)
22:34 koyauni no no no brackets, just add them here
22:34 rangi then run that command again (it's definitely a valid link)
22:33 rangi apt-get install wget
22:33 rangi try doing
22:33 rangi you arent doing the brackets are you?
22:32 jcamins_away Well, that's an optional step.
22:32 koyauni I ges that link is not valid
22:31 koyauni it says (gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. )
22:31 jcamins_away Yes.
22:31 koyauni like that
22:31 koyauni (wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | apt-key add -)
22:30 jcamins_away Remove "sudo"
22:30 koyauni (wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add -)
22:30 koyauni so this should be deffirnet command line for me then
22:29 koyauni I use SSH working in root of the server
22:29 koyauni ohh I have root
22:29 jcamins_away If you are just using root, you don't need sudo. People just prefer it because it means you don't have a root shell around.
22:28 jcamins_away If you want ot use sudo, you can install sudo by running `apt-get install sudo`
22:28 jcamins_away This has nothing to do with Koha.
22:28 jcamins_away No.
22:28 koyauni so I need to remove it and reinstall it
22:27 jcamins_away That's not a Koha thing. It's a Linux thing.
22:27 jcamins_away And then you can install sudo by doing `apt-get install sudo`
22:26 jcamins_away koyauni: if you are running everything as root, you can remove sudo.
22:26 koyauni I try to add this (wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add -) but it says that is does not have command sudo, does it mean that I miss some modules
22:20 koyauni thanks!, I will do that
22:06 rangi we were free for 2 whole years :)
22:06 rangi :)
22:06 rangi i didnt even put MARC in it!
22:06 rangi hey!
22:04 magnuse g'night #koha!
22:04 magnuse jcamins++ for taking the first step toward freeing us from MARC
21:46 rangi heh
21:46 wizzyrea he sprung fully formed from the head of zeus
21:45 wizzyrea oh, true
21:45 rangi except gmcharlt
21:45 wizzyrea we were all one once
21:45 wizzyrea fortunately you are in luck, we love beginners :)
21:43 rangi you are using the stable one eh? (not oldstable or development)
21:43 rangi dont use koha
21:43 rangi use koha-common
21:42 koyauni they have two package in that instruction koha-common and Koha and they recommend to use koha pack but the instruction just talks about koha-common, any tips what I should as I am beginner to all this, please
21:37 koyauni yes it does, let give it a go, I just learned Linux today? :(
21:36 * mtj waves to bag
21:36 mtj koyauni, if you are running squeeze, everything is good enough :)
21:36 bag heya mtj
21:35 mtj http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/
21:35 koyauni is Perl 5.10 good enough
21:35 koyauni thanks, my server runs Debian 6.05
21:34 mtj yes
21:34 koyauni so it is just another name for Debian 6
21:34 mtj yes
21:34 koyauni is it same as Debian 6
21:34 wahanui Debian squeeze is recommended for koha?
21:34 koyauni what is Debian squeeze
21:33 rangi that url ^
21:32 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
21:32 rangi packages?
21:32 koyauni anyone has any good site that I can follow for this installation please
21:31 koyauni hi guys I have just got a dedicated server with hertzner.com running Debian 6.05, and I trying to install Koha 3.8,
21:08 wizzyrea preety
21:08 wizzyrea i like it though
21:08 wizzyrea and it works but typing it in directly, even with no typos, it didn't work
21:07 wizzyrea weird, I clicked through from google
21:07 wizzyrea no typos
21:06 wizzyrea just fine
21:06 wizzyrea on my computer
21:06 wizzyrea comes up in my browser
21:06 fcapovilla strange
21:06 wizzyrea (and yes, otherwise I can get stuff fine)
21:05 wizzyrea i can't get that to come up on my android phone… says url not available
21:04 wizzyrea hmmm
21:03 fcapovilla But you won't be able to access the user account page without an account :/
21:03 fcapovilla https://sherbrooke.koha.ccsr.qc.ca/
21:02 wizzyrea fcapovilla: do you have a live site with it?
21:02 fcapovilla The problematic part is the sliding menu in the user account page. Some mobile browsers might have a hard time with it.
21:01 fcapovilla mtj: ok, we tried it on a blackberry emulator, on ipods/iphones and even on a windows phone.
21:00 mtj fcapovilla: i will look at the cssr opac theme using the android emulator, soon :)
20:57 fcapovilla The hard part was converting all those horizontal tables into lists using only css, because we lack horizontal space on mobile.
20:56 wizzyrea ooh la la
20:56 wizzyrea then we could have a wiki page for mobile styles
20:55 wizzyrea well, not most. more than one.
20:55 wizzyrea are.
20:55 wizzyrea colors and such is ez business for most libraries
20:55 wizzyrea :)
20:55 wizzyrea :
20:55 wizzyrea because I think you did the hard part
20:54 fcapovilla wizzyrea: yes, very good idea.
20:54 mtj bootstrap has some nice media-query stuff , too -> http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/scaffolding.html#responsive
20:54 wizzyrea (for those people who say "I don't like this wah wah" well, change it up then!)
20:54 wizzyrea so people could input their own overriding css on top of your lovely work
20:53 rangi window size is a much nicer way to do it
20:53 wizzyrea fcapovilla: did you see my idea about a mobileusercss
20:53 fcapovilla mediaqueries :P
20:53 cait window size
20:53 wizzyrea oh yes yes
20:53 cait which is nice!
20:52 cait I think it detects the windows size
20:52 wizzyrea they did the mobile detection thing right?
20:50 wizzyrea lol
20:50 wizzyrea in fact, why don't we do that...
20:50 rangi oh smart
20:50 wizzyrea like opacusercss
20:50 wizzyrea so people could muck about with their css
20:49 wizzyrea and include that
20:49 wizzyrea maximep: you know, you could do a mobileusercss pref
20:49 wizzyrea you know, any default mobile theme is better than no mobile theme.
20:47 rangi and cssr++ too
20:42 mtj love it
20:42 mtj fcapovilla++ maximep++ - nice opac theme! :)
20:39 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ptoothfish: "My nerdling just increased coverage of the C4/Members/AttributeTypes.pm from 7.7 to 33% #kohails I need to get this on a bumper sticker"
20:26 rangi maximep: i like it, but if people dont, and dont want it in the main repo, we could always put it http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=contrib/global.git;a=tree
20:24 maximep yeah but I don't expect everyone to like our theme
20:23 cait still looks quite pretty :)
20:23 maximep mobile theme with a few problems :P
20:23 rangi back
20:17 rangi Ok my stop bbiab
20:15 kathryn hello there cait
20:14 cait :)
20:14 cait morning kathryn
20:14 cait :)
20:13 rangi Just wow
20:13 rangi Wow
20:02 rangi Cool
20:02 rangi Ohh a mobile theme
20:02 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on August 09, 2012). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
20:02 rangi @wunder nzwn
20:01 rangi :-)
20:00 cait on it :)
19:59 rangi Back above 90 eh?
19:48 wizzyrea mornin
19:47 cait evening :)
19:47 rangi Morning
19:17 eythian someone just asked about it
19:17 eythian gods no
19:16 jcamins eythian: are you helping someone implement a discovery layer?
19:15 wizzyrea oh nice
19:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view
19:11 fcapovilla Took longer than I expected, but I finally rebased bug 8597 on master.
19:10 jcamins It is by far the best discovery layer I've ever used, but it has issues sometimes helping me locate known items.
19:09 jcamins Silly me, thinking I might not.
19:09 jcamins I do dislike it already.
19:09 jcamins Actually, I was just kidding.
19:08 * wizzyrea knows someone who works for them
19:07 eythian ah, interesting
19:06 jcamins I don't dislike it yet.
19:06 jcamins eythian: NYPL is using that.
19:05 eythian www.bibliocommons.com/how-we-work/our-platform <-- anyone want a new discovery layer!!!
19:03 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Managing Comments in Koha 3.8 http://t.co/fv45NSdE"
18:54 cait heh
18:47 jcamins It will be a glorious day.
18:46 jcamins One day, it will be generated on the fly for those rare times when we need to export an authority as MARC.
18:45 jcamins It renames record to marcrecord.
18:43 jcamins magnuse: it takes the first step toward freeing us from MARC.
18:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches
18:43 jcamins magnuse: by the way, you'll like my revisions to bug 7417.
18:28 wizzyrea yvw :)
18:25 fcapovilla And it works! Thank you.
18:24 wizzyrea things get all confusticated.
18:24 wizzyrea :))
18:24 jcamins This sort of thing happens when you use CPAN.
18:24 fcapovilla oh, theres a package, I'll install that
18:24 wizzyrea bad idea
18:24 wizzyrea oo yea
18:24 jcamins You should never use CPAN.
18:24 fcapovilla I used cpan
18:23 cait are you installing libtext-unaccent-perl?
18:23 cait hm it worked for me
18:22 fcapovilla Hum.. I'm trying to test a patch on the master, but I can't install a new dependency : Text::Unaccent ... It says the test failed. Anybody got that problem?
18:05 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Managing Comments in Koha 3.8 http://t.co/7KjCroVb #kohails"
17:45 tcohen we still have a couple
17:45 jcamins None of my libraries use slips.
17:45 jcamins tcohen: I don't, sorry.
17:45 tcohen jcamins, do u know if it is possible to have the staff member cardnumber in the quick slip receit?
17:40 * jcamins wonders what it says that everyone laughs at that joke.
17:39 jcamins Hehe.
17:39 tcohen LOL
17:39 tcohen jcamins: I have a magic wand that could be used for that purpose too
17:38 jcamins tcohen: no, koha-rebuild-zebra just rebuilds the index. koha-repair-the-$@&!-zebra makes it work when it spontaneously stops working.
17:38 tcohen drojf, dont' we have it? koha-rebuild-zebra?
17:30 maximep does koha-do-everything fix my bugs ? :p
17:30 drojf koha-repair-the-$@&!-zebra would be cool too
17:30 tcohen quick question: is it possible to print the staff cardnumber in the quick slip receipt?
17:30 * jcamins especially likes koha-do-everything, which takes care of cataloging, too.
17:29 drojf there are a lot of cool debian commands i never used
17:28 jcamins drojf: I do.
17:28 drojf if i want to use koha-restore from the packages on a new installation, do i use it immediately after koha/mysql installation?
16:54 wajasu thx !!!
16:54 wajasu Ahh. Yea!!! Thats what I want.
16:54 jcamins This is what I do.
16:54 jcamins You can just set the default in the framework to BOOK (or whatever the controlled value in question is).
16:53 wajasu since my user doesn't circulate, everything is a book, so is there a way to default the koha itemtype to a "Book" as a systemPref, or is there a way to enable that in the framework mappings (i.e. default )
16:49 * jcamins thinks that would be much better.
16:49 wajasu maybe itemtype should be circulationtype (would be nice "help" for future marc editor tooltip or such to explain this.
16:48 jcamins Exactly.
16:48 jcamins One client uses itemtype for book/article/auction catalog.
16:48 jcamins For non-circulating libraries (like the ones I work with) itemtype doesn't matter so much.
16:47 wajasu so its a circulation type/category
16:45 wajasu right now :)
16:45 wajasu Ahh. Thats why my user sqwauks. They don't circulate. And everything is a Book.
16:45 jcamins If they have books that don't circulate, they call them Reference, and put them in a special "Reference" section, and change the itemtype to "Reference."
16:45 jcamins If you think about a public library, they have a section for "Books," a section for "DVDs," etc., and everything in a given section circulates the same way.
16:44 jcamins It's for circulation.
16:44 jcamins "Reference" "General circulation" "Reserve" etc. make just as much sense.
16:44 wajasu so in what other ways is the book itemtype useful?
16:43 jcamins I mean, lots of people use it as such, but that's a personal decision.
16:43 jcamins Exactly.
16:43 wajasu so the koha "Book" itemtype has nothing to do with searching for things that are book-like.
16:42 jcamins nengard: now that I know how to reproduce the bug, I'll also fix it, but the note in the manual apparently isn't dire enough. :)
16:42 wajasu Ahh. its a semantic mistake?
16:41 nengard thanks jcamins
16:41 jcamins In hindsight, I think using "Book," "Video," etc. as sample itemtypes was a very foolish decision.
16:40 jcamins Koha itemtype has nothing to do with bibliographic genre, so it can't be inferred from any combination of non-942/952 fields.
16:39 jcamins That is correct.
16:39 wajasu we spoke once before about why we wouldn't infer the koha itemtype "Books" most of time by using the leader. Does that include the 008 fields. My user is asking me.
16:36 jcamins I saw, thanks. :)
16:36 wajasu i added a comment in the bug for a workaround/hint when this comes up for others.
16:35 jcamins Some other time.
16:35 * jcamins will send a patch to nengard.
16:35 jcamins The fact that you weren't told "we're testing broader_headings and now it doesn't work" makes me think that the warning isn't clear enough.
16:35 wajasu my user read the docs, and said he though it would the functionaility he wanted. thats all.
16:35 jcamins The documentation says "don't enable this in production without testing thoroughly."
16:34 jcamins BTW, any hints how broader_heading would have gotten enabled in your system?
16:34 jcamins I'll have to see if I can track down the problem.
16:33 wajasu yup!
16:33 jcamins But it was thorough, wasn't it?
16:32 jcamins wajasu: yes, that was before I learned about Test::MockModule.
16:31 wajasu jcamins: ok. by the way that test plan for that linker was a beast :)
16:31 jcamins I'm a little baffled how it would've gotten set... I could've sworn my instructions said "you probably don't want to use it because it is highly experimental."
16:30 jcamins It's for linking United States--History--Stuff to United States--History.
16:30 jcamins wajasu: no side effects.
16:29 maximep anyway, you were right. Git has no problem handling images with format-patch
16:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8447 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , can't save new records / indicator error
16:28 wajasu jcamins: what are the ramifications of removing "broader_headings" in LinkerOptions in v3.8.3 (Bug 8447) so I can save z39.50 biblios with AutoCreateAuthorities=generate? What will be the side effects?
16:28 fcapovilla commit early, commit often
16:28 maximep 38 commits o_O
16:27 maximep ah that would explain it
16:27 fcapovilla I guess I made a mistake wile rebasing. I guess the images weren't in my squashed temporary branch. So many commits.
16:26 jcamins maximep: it's easy to miss a step, and since images are definitely handled by git, it seems reasonable to think there's something else going on.
16:26 * McCloud[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes
16:26 maximep we know how to use git :P
16:25 maximep lol
16:25 oleonard Did you use "git add" to add them before that?
16:25 fcapovilla well, by default, when I did "git format-patch", it didn't include the images
16:24 oleonard just git add them, commit, and they'll be included.
16:24 fcapovilla oleonard: I can try, I'll also try to include the binary images in the patch
16:22 oleonard fcapovilla: Will you be rebasing these patches on master?
16:20 eythian yeah, they're a pain
16:20 eythian ah right
16:20 eythian (or really, doesn't it just send the patch?)
16:20 oleonard eythian: I'm thinking of long lines, sorry.
16:20 eythian I think git-send email can too, doesn't it just base64 them?
16:20 fcapovilla doh, should have searched a little more
16:20 oleonard git send-email may not be able to handle it, but that's another story
16:19 oleonard git can handle binary files just fine
16:19 fcapovilla oleonard: git didn't want to include binary files in format-patch
16:18 jcamins Ahh.
16:18 fcapovilla Our designers included a jquery library (jqtransform) to theme browser controls
16:18 maximep no way to do it withoult javascript
16:18 maximep jqtransform is to be able to skin <select>
16:17 fcapovilla Note : you can test the mobile version by resizing your browser window, mediaqueries work like that :P
16:16 jcamins What is jqtransform_select?
16:16 oleonard fcapovilla: Why are the images not part of the patch?
16:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8594 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , A report containing a subquery that has a 'limit' will have that limit stripped out
16:16 eythian Whew, bug 8594 took longer than I hoped it would. But, waiting for signoff now from someone who is bored ;)
16:15 drojf then i better like your theme ;)
16:15 fcapovilla yes, you need the theme. We tried to backport the mobile version on the basic Koha theme, we depended too much on our masthead modifications.
16:15 drojf firstworldproblems
16:15 * drojf does not even have a smartphone and the tablet is to big for a mobile view
16:15 maximep yes
16:14 drojf so i can use mobile only if i use your theme? or if i install your theme?
16:14 jcamins I was just about to ask that. ;)
16:14 jcamins Darn.
16:14 maximep sadly the mobile depends on stuff in our theme :/
16:14 jcamins Ah-ha.
16:14 maximep you can see our theme and you can test the mobile just by resizing the window
16:13 drojf ah sorry confused the numbers
16:13 maximep we should probably provide an exemple, like http://sherbrooke.koha.ccsr.qc.ca/
16:13 fcapovilla first and second are for the theme. The third is the mobile version
16:13 jcamins drojf: the first one seems to be different?
16:13 drojf the mobile thingy?
16:13 jcamins I see the second and third make up the mobile theme.
16:12 huginn 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=11448&action=edit patch, New theme for the OPAC, 0001-New-theme-for-the-OPAC.patch
16:12 jcamins What is attachment 11448?
16:12 fcapovilla Well, I guess I'll have to do it on my other new patches too :P
16:11 jcamins Thanks. :)
16:11 fcapovilla ok, I'll change it
16:11 maximep yeah :/
16:10 jcamins New developments should always be versioned against master, not 3.8.
16:10 drojf heh
16:10 maximep really not sure how anyone would use it, but it's cool that we finally sent it
16:09 maximep finally.
16:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view
16:09 maximep oh gaaaaaaaaaaaawd bug 8597
16:07 drojf oh, no musical flashbacks anymore?
16:06 wahanui it has been said that mtompset is currently in the Philippines and is coding up a bash script storm in the midst of seasonal typhoons.
16:06 drojf hey mtompset
16:03 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
16:03 jcamins Joubu++ # thanks
15:56 Joubu It's the end of day's work for me :) goodbye
15:56 kf bye all :)
15:56 kf don't rewrite Koha while I am on my way home, ok? :)
15:55 jcamins I see the problem.
15:55 jcamins Ah.
15:55 jcamins Ohhh.
15:54 Joubu We have a Moose object, we extend it and want to override it with a Moo object
15:53 Joubu jcamins: It's the opposite :)
15:53 jcamins I'd be interested to see it. Any chance you could push it somewhere?
15:53 Joubu jcamins: If you are interested, I have a local branch with my tests with Moo
15:52 jcamins Where "they" = mst
15:52 jcamins Joubu: http://api.metacpan.org/source/MSTROUT/Moo-0.091011/xt/moose-override-attribute-from-moo-role.t <-- looks like they can do it?
15:52 Joubu There is certainly a better way to do some parts. A thinking will be needed when we will choose our OO system.
15:51 jcamins Hrm. That seems a bit like an anti-feature.
15:49 Joubu It's not introspection. I just overwrite an attribute (has '+url'). Apparently, It's not possible from a Moose object with Moo
15:49 jcamins (I'm not very familiar with that code, and I figure asking you is faster than trying to find it myself;)
15:48 gaetan_B bye !
15:48 jcamins Where are you using introspection features in Koha::SE?
15:47 jcamins I prefer Moo because it is lighter weight, but Mouse is still reasonable (I think) for CGI.
15:46 Joubu :)
15:46 jcamins And Any::Moose is available on Debian.
15:45 jcamins Well, at least if we're wrong, we're both wrong.
15:45 Joubu It's what I understand too
15:42 jcamins Do I understand correctly?
15:42 jcamins So... with Any::Moose, we could use Moose under Plack and Mouse under CGI?
15:41 jcamins http://shadow.cat/blog/matt-s-trout/moo-versus-any-moose/
15:41 Joubu yes, good news :)
15:40 jcamins Mouse is available under Debian Squeeze.
15:40 jcamins I was trying to figure out why they were so similar, given my benchmark results.
15:39 jcamins Right.
15:39 jcamins -set
15:39 Joubu "The Solr code is still loading Moose for Data::SearchEngine::Solr."> Yes of course. But I wanted to make sure that we could use Mouse or Moo for Koha::SE::Solr
15:39 * jcamins has decided to set colocate a server, when he has a change, to offload some of the Koha running onto.
15:38 jcamins Yes, that's a bit more powerful. Like... a gazillion times. :)
15:37 Joubu hum, it's possible :) Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz
15:36 * jcamins thinks you have a more powerful computer than his, though. ;)
15:36 jcamins Ohh... of course. The Solr code is still loading Moose for Data::SearchEngine::Solr.
15:35 oleonard I love having to use Firebug to enable the "place hold" button when *some* of multiple titles can't be placed on hold :P
15:35 Joubu no, only cgi
15:35 jcamins Using Plack?
15:34 Joubu For a simple opac search (5 results to display)
15:34 Joubu Moose : 1.97s (of 2.31s), executing 672471 statements and 236729 subroutine calls in 322 source files and 50 string evals.
15:34 Joubu Mouse : 1.91s (of 2.22s), executing 628721 statements and 219031 subroutine calls in 334 source files and 50 string evals.
15:34 Joubu I launched nytprof with these 2 versions, results are quite similars:
15:34 Joubu jcamins (and anyone interested) : Just for *information* (;-)) : I tried to replace Moose with Moo for Koha::Data::SearchEngine, and I failed. It is not simple. Moo does not support introspection for Moose objects. (and we have to overwrite an url attribute). However replace Moose with Mouse is as simple as s/Moose/Mouse/g :)
15:33 * kf nods
15:31 drojf can't explain things better than with cat examples
15:31 jcamins Those are pretty great examples.
15:30 drojf :)
15:30 drojf For example, the GRS-1 filter index definition melm 245 Title would allow 245 $a Cats on boxes : $b cardboard fantasies to be searched as the phrases "cats on boxes" or "cardboard fantasies", but a title phrase seach of "cats on boxes cardboard fantasises" wouldn't work.
15:29 maximep haha
15:28 drojf What the GRS-1 index cannot provide, however, is the ability to index a phrase that spans subfield boundaries. For example, giving the subject heading: 650 $a Cats $x pharmacology $x catnip
15:28 drojf i love the examples
15:27 jcamins maximep: DOM is better.
15:26 maximep love that line. I probably could spend 2 days googling all those terms lol
15:26 maximep Koha currently uses Zebra’s GRS-1 filter for indexing MARC and Zebra’s DOM filter for indexing authority records (represented as MARCXML).
15:24 wahanui drojf: I forgot bug 7818
15:24 drojf wahanui forget bug 7818
15:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7818 critical, P1 - high, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records
15:24 wahanui bug 7818 is, like, waiting for my QA. Should be pretty painless, as it works a charm
15:24 drojf bug 7818
15:23 maximep found http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Switching_to_dom_indexing, but it doesn't explain much
15:23 maximep what's DOM indexing ? :S
15:22 drojf alrighty. getting prepared to nuke the crazy zebra on friday
15:22 jcamins drojf: yup.
15:21 drojf DOM indexing is default in 3.8.3?
15:20 maximep yay
15:20 maximep yes and I finally have some time to do tests for my code
15:18 jcamins There's still time to change all that. :)
15:17 maximep haha
15:17 maximep I pretty much hate every single patch and line of code I ever sent to the koha community
15:17 kf and the code comments
15:16 kf I like the test plans :)
15:16 jcamins Hehe. I like to err on the side of more detail.
15:15 maximep I really like your long and detailed patch messages :p
15:14 maximep yeah that patch in 8209 is amazing
15:13 jcamins That'd be awesome.
15:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8596 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Reports interface date picker doesn't force ISO formatted dates
15:13 maximep imo every time you write here are the 25 steps to test that patch, there should instead have a selenium test that does it all for you
15:13 eythian oleonard: bug 8596
15:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities
15:12 jcamins That's how I did bug 8209.
15:12 jcamins "Oh, it passes the tests and the pages all render without any Javascript errors? Excellent, my work here is done." :)
15:12 maximep hoping I can do some TDD someday in a project
15:12 jcamins maximep: and when you write the test before the feature, you hardly even have to think about whether or not the feature works.
15:11 maximep if I could I would write more test lines than code
15:11 kf so all of you - have fun! :)
15:11 maximep didn't at first, but after the 10th time they spotted a regression, now I really do
15:11 kf lol
15:10 maximep I love writing tests
15:10 eythian well it's OK now that all 19 of them pass :)
15:10 eythian heh
15:10 jcamins ^^ that's my story and I'm sticking too it.
15:09 jcamins It's the most fun ever!
15:09 jcamins eythian: writing tests is great!
15:08 eythian will do
15:08 oleonard If you file a bug I can look at it
15:07 eythian it would seem a good way, yeah.
15:07 oleonard I'm sure we can force the format for that page
15:07 eythian but the master one is new and doesn't
15:07 eythian the 3.8 selector puts in the ISO form
15:07 eythian oleonard: yep
15:07 oleonard ...but the reports interface requires ISO?
15:07 oleonard eythian: Because your dateformat pref is dd/mm/yyyy?
15:06 jcamins Profoundly.
15:05 eythian annoying.
15:05 jcamins 45 minutes sitting in a train halfway in the station.
15:05 jcamins Ugh.
15:02 eythian (i.e. dd/mm/yyyy rather than yyyy-mm-dd)
15:01 eythian ah. So the new date picker in the reports interface produces dates that mysql doesn't like.
14:54 kf maybe addon like oleonard suggests
14:54 kf reading the documentation right now - have spotted nothing so far :(
14:54 maximep I guess I can paste text as an attachment for really long blocks of code
14:53 * oleonard hoped there might be something here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Addons#Bugzilla_Extensions
14:51 kf I think you can't in the comments
14:51 maximep something like a <pre> (that works in redmine). Just hard to read with a ton of code in comments :/
14:50 maximep is there no way to do a code block in bugzilla ? A way to put code and have it not lose formating and with a different style ?
14:26 chris_n lol
14:03 kf heh
14:01 * eythian hates writing test cases, especially when they fail.
13:57 gmcharlt eythian++
13:57 eythian "man, I miss being able to use regexes in perl"
13:57 gmcharlt of course, with that it's more like "I hate it when you find a cool feature in Perl that's been there for at least 5 years..."
13:55 eythian haha
13:54 gmcharlt eythian: one of the reason I weep whenever I see a RHEL5 server
13:54 eythian (in this case "s/.../.../r")
13:54 eythian I hate when you find a cool feature in Perl that you didn't know existed, use it, and find that it's super-new and not in most versions yet.
13:53 oleonard At least the next one is in the time slot where I won't miss it because I'm here anyway :|
13:52 wizzyrea minor things.
13:52 jwagner except that they are starting to ask for volunteers/candidates for the next cycle's roles (release manager, etc.)
13:51 jwagner About a dozen people were there, drojf -- nothing really substantive was discussed
13:50 drojf so nobody was at the meeting? there are no minutes
13:48 drojf because it was long enough for three
13:48 drojf oops. feels like the last meeting was yesterday
13:48 jwagner I meant to bring it up last night. There was no notification to the lists, and no entry on the page.
13:48 wahanui ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow....
13:48 eythian wahanui: you are a bot, you don't have timezones
13:47 wizzyrea it sure is
13:47 jwagner http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings
13:47 wahanui the meeting time is always going to favour one section of the globe
13:47 kf the meeting time
13:47 jwagner I noticed yesterday that the wiki page listing meetings hasn't been updated since June
13:47 kf it is there for me
13:47 wizzyrea someone used to put the meeting times in the topic
13:47 wizzyrea yes, good question
13:46 oleonard I guess "we" are wizzyrea... But who is "we?"
13:46 wizzyrea are we forgetting to send out messages and do posts? because I didn't know there was a meeting either
13:46 kf was someone there?
13:46 wizzyrea heh
13:45 kf oh, was it this morning?
13:45 kf oh?
13:43 oleonard Oh, I missed a meeting last night :(
13:42 Joubu kf: thank you !
13:42 kf Joubu: I will try to do so tonight - thx :)
13:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches
13:41 Joubu kf: could you re signoff the Bug 7417 with followups when you have some time please ? Thus I can passed qa it ;)
13:41 gmcharlt hdl: ah, OK
13:40 hdl gmcharlt: was sent late last night but since the person was not subscribed to the list, it was stuck in the queue
13:37 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
13:37 gmcharlt @later tell thd sorry -- we were moving the wiki to a different host; looks like no advance notice was sent
13:36 mbalmer oh yeah, that is fairly big, at least I shaved on day ;) thanks!
13:35 eythian )
13:35 eythian (and possibly yourself
13:35 eythian http://youtu.be/4RL9afO27Kg <-- nengard, this may amuse bengard
13:33 nengard http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/7162934703/sizes/o/
13:33 nengard the one on flickr should allow you to download the original size
13:32 mbalmer nengard, do you have a hires version of the edinburgh group foto somewhere (that I could for printing in the swiss librarian magazine)
13:14 kf hm no idea? :)
13:12 oleonard Yes. A test of what?
13:11 kf because it's a test?
13:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8574 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED INVALID, test
13:10 * oleonard grumbles about Bug 8574
12:48 tcohen greetings #koha
12:39 wahanui i heard oleonard was still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
12:39 drojf hey oleonard
12:26 oleonard Hi #koha
12:22 Joubu jcamins++
12:21 Joubu jcamins: ok thank you ;)
12:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches
12:15 jcamins Joubu: I made the additional changes you requested on bug 7417.
12:03 magnuse wow, that's pretty neat
12:01 magnuse ahhhh, thanks!
11:59 jcamins --file whatever --match-bibs {matcherid}
11:58 jcamins No, just stage_biblios_file.pl --help
11:58 jcamins magnuse: perldoc stage_records.pl?
11:57 magnuse jcamins: but how do you use it? is it documented anywhere?
11:28 Joubu rangi: yes
11:28 jcamins magnuse: I use stage_* and commit_* to deal with that.
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11:03 WaqarAzeem Hi, i logged in as admin and went to see the books onhold by some user... but somehow call-number is empty against the book (v3.6)
11:02 rangi Joubu: you about?
10:53 magnuse join the fun!
10:53 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2012-08-10_Global_bug_squashing_day
10:30 rangi no worries
10:30 magnuse thanks rangi
10:30 magnuse ok, i'll pounce on her the minute she turns up! ;-)
10:29 rangi ahh you need to ask kf when she gets back from lunch, i havent done it, but they do it a lot
10:28 magnuse how is it used from the command line? perldoc was not very helpful...
10:28 magnuse nah, i was trying bulkmarcimport
10:28 rangi was that what you were doing?
10:27 rangi you can use the stage marc record script from the command line
10:26 magnuse um, more like 77264 records, to be precise
10:25 magnuse it's ~70000 records, so stage marc records hangs
10:24 magnuse ok my brain is fried - i'm trying to help a library that has exported all their marc records in iso27109, cleaned up the data (including item data) and now they want to load the marc in again, to just replace the existing records and item data. what's the best way to do that?
10:15 eythian yeah, that wasn't me at my most coherent
10:15 magnuse ooh lunch
10:15 kf time for lunch
10:15 kf now I amconfused
10:14 eythian right, why do you need a calendar to have caturday, and so they don't know if there's a specific day.
10:13 kf for a cat, every day is cat day :)
10:13 kf eythian: are you sure?
10:13 eythian does anyone know a decent UI wireframe/mockup thing that is also free software?
10:13 eythian cats don't even have a calendar
10:11 drojf cats > queen
10:10 kf the queen has a day too?
10:09 eythian why do cats need a day?
10:09 kf :)
10:07 matts ^^
10:07 drojf :)
10:07 kf we should tell matts - his cats will expect a special menu :)
10:06 kf oh nice
10:06 drojf it's today ;)
10:06 drojf jo
10:06 kf weltkatzentag?
10:05 drojf searching "world cat day" without quotes on duckduckgo gives me "worldcat.org" as #1. yeah relevance
09:56 magnuse ah, yes
09:55 kf still a bad bug tho :(
09:55 kf magnuse: that's what we do for the imports
09:55 kf magnuse: you could use the stage import tools from command line
09:54 magnuse unable to search the database for duplicates : No query entered at misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 218, <GEN13> line 1.
09:54 magnuse .Use of uninitialized value $recorddata in pattern match (m//) at misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 439, <GEN13> line 1.
09:54 magnuse ouch, i'm trying to do bulkmarcimport.pl ... -match 999c and get an unfriendly error:
09:51 kf :)
09:51 rangi she was in heidelberg and was going to fribourg
09:50 kf so not exactly next door :)
09:50 kf train probably much longer
09:50 kf um car
09:50 kf it's 2.5 hours by train
09:50 kf lol
09:50 rangi thats next door in european terms :)
09:50 kf google maps says 223 km
09:50 bartsimpson rangi: I submitted the patch, its all right I think, I tested the end column of the mock-data to test the table and managed to check the 'fetch' thing :) Im getting off now though so see you tomorrow :)
09:49 rangi thats where anitsirk is today
09:49 rangi yep
09:49 kf in switzerland?
09:49 rangi kf: how far away from you is fribourg ?
09:48 kf hm. nothing?
09:48 drojf what is that supposed to mean?
09:47 kf you don't like cheese... hm.
09:43 drojf kf: i don't like cheese, so what i call pizza is far from authentic ;)
09:42 drojf heh that's brilliant
09:42 rangi quite smart, why thresh it when you can get traffic to do it for you
09:42 rangi when i was in china, they did that with wheat
09:42 drojf do you bake it on a volcano afterwards?
09:42 drojf pizza nz style? ;)
09:41 drojf lol
09:41 rangi i just throw mine on the road and let cars run over it for a bit
09:41 kf another reason to not use it
09:41 kf it's much more authentic with hands
09:41 drojf ha! it's back. yeah german engineering. carried out somewhere in asia by an underpaid child :/
09:41 * magnuse does not knead his pizza doughs much
09:41 kf yeah, you are :P
09:40 drojf it's a handmixer, never had problems with that. takes much longer by hand and i'm lazy?
09:40 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ranginui: "more patches from the @CatalystAcademy students, 1 from bart, 1 from jorgia #kohails"
09:37 kf use your hands! :)
09:36 kf that would have been my next question too
09:36 magnuse what's a pizza dough doing in a kitchen mixer in the first place? ;-)
09:35 drojf i hope it comes back to life when i wait a little
09:35 rangi ooops
09:35 drojf pizza dough 1, kitchen mixer 0 :(
09:32 rangi :)
09:32 bartsimpson got it :)
09:32 bartsimpson wait nvm
09:31 bartsimpson rangi: I did the terminal side of a prove_cover for my new patch, but don't remember how to look at it on firefox :)
09:20 huginn bartsimpson: Karma for "bartsimpson" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3.
09:20 bartsimpson @karma bartsimpson
09:20 * kf helps out
09:20 rangi bartsimpson++
09:20 kf bartsimpson++
09:20 rangi i cant spell
09:20 rangi doh
09:19 rangi there :)
09:19 rangi bartsimpon++
09:18 bartsimpson damn :P
09:18 huginn bartsimpson: Karma for "bartsimpson" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
09:18 bartsimpson @Karma bartsimpson
09:18 huginn jorgia: Karma for "jorgia" has been increased 6 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 6.
09:18 jorgia @karma jorgia
09:05 huginn rangi: Karma for "jorgia" has been increased 6 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 6.
09:05 rangi @karma jorgia
09:04 magnuse jorgia++
09:04 kf jorgia++ :)
09:02 rangi no worries, thanks for working on koha in your evenings :)
09:02 jorgia thanks :)
09:02 jorgia Ok ill try again
09:02 rangi hmm maybe you didnt save the css change?
09:01 rangi ah nope that is only the tt
09:01 rangi ta
09:00 jorgia 8593
08:59 rangi ahh you might have accidentally done both files .. can you remember the bug number?
08:59 jorgia or does the .tt cover both?
08:59 jorgia i did one before, this is the css for the script
08:58 rangi it only has the one commit? or are there 2 by you?
08:57 jorgia i did a git log
08:57 jorgia hmm ok.
08:56 eythian that message is saying "nothing's changed to be committed"
08:56 eythian either that or forgot to save changes
08:56 jorgia i commited a change. this is a different one
08:55 rangi can you do git log
08:55 rangi hmm it looks like it thinks you have already committed that change
08:54 pastebot "jorgia" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "error i get after trying to git commit" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/83
08:50 magnuse ah
08:50 wahanui paste is probably found at http://paste.koha-community.org
08:50 magnuse paste?
08:49 wahanui pastebin is, like, at http://paste.koha-community.org/
08:49 magnuse pastebin?
08:49 magnuse pastebin is at http://paste.koha-community.org/
08:49 rangi paste.koha-community.org
08:49 rangi bartsimpson: and yep that was the one you were working on
08:48 magnuse pastebin?
08:48 rangi she might want to paste it
08:48 rangi whats the error ?
08:48 bartsimpson rangi: also jorgia is trying to git add her second patch, but it's coming up with an error, is there a line to enter to clear the first patch so she can process a new one?
08:46 bartsimpson rangi: just to double check, it was 'members_attributetypes' that i was working on?
08:38 rangi yay!
08:38 bartsimpson rangi: im going to work on that test i was working on now
08:38 bartsimpson rangi: yep it's operational :)
08:35 kf want to know about koha/pazpar2 and koha as cms, Koha/oai-pmh...
08:34 kf good but not easy questions :)
08:34 eythian heh
08:33 kf that was for eythian heh
08:32 kf got another mail with questions for the workshop :)
08:32 eythian I suspect the latter however
08:32 eythian although, it has (what sounds like) actual people doing part of it, but I can't tell if it's composed with, or sampled and mixed in.
08:31 eythian the same singers who do the other songs on the album. It seems to have a lot of languages (going from the song titles, anyway)
08:30 rangi eythian: oh really? cool, i wonder who sings it
08:30 eythian hello kf
08:30 eythian rangi: so I was listening to the music from the humble music bundle thing last night, got half way through one song before I realised it was completely in MÄori.
08:30 kf hi eythian
08:29 eythian hiya rangi
08:28 rangi hi eythian
08:28 eythian God morgen magnuse
08:27 rangi bartsimpson: the wifi still working ok on jorgia's laptop?
08:27 magnuse kia ora eythian
08:25 magnuse bartsimpson++
08:21 rangi sounds good to me
08:20 bartsimpson rangi: we are going to submit the other version and the css aswell in attachments. :)
08:18 rangi :)
08:18 bartsimpson oh right
08:17 rangi did you do the git format-patch origin/master
08:17 bartsimpson rangi: We git-commited the file but it's not showing up where i'm used to it being, so what file should I attach
08:15 drojf hei magnuse
08:15 magnuse hiya drojf
08:12 drojf moin kf
08:12 magnuse guten morgen kf
08:11 kf hi magnuse and drojf
08:11 drojf hey rangi
08:11 magnuse kia ora rangi
08:10 rangi hi magnuse and drojf
08:09 wahanui staff client is probably for the staff in the library, OPAC is for patrons
08:09 rangi bartsimpson: staff client
08:09 * magnuse waves
08:09 bartsimpson what would the component be?
08:08 rangi bartsimpson: that ok?
08:03 rangi and create a new bug, then attach the patch to that
08:03 rangi cant see a likely one so you can go to http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/enter_bug.cgi
08:01 rangi lemme see if i can find one
08:01 rangi hmm, we probably need a bug to attach it to first
08:00 bartsimpson rangi: hello :) me and jorgia are trying to submit her patch, do we need to submit a patch for the css seperately
07:16 rangi evening
07:12 gaetan_B hello :)
07:06 kf :)
07:06 matts The lake is beautiful (one of the cleanest in Europe, have I heard)
07:06 matts I went around Annecy, France
07:04 kf where have you been for holidays?
07:04 kf lucky :)
07:04 matts fine ! They survived my week of holiday, and weren't pouting that much when I came back :)
07:03 kf matts: how are the cats? :)
07:03 matts hi !
07:03 kf hi matts and Joubu
07:02 Joubu hi
06:57 kf mveron++
06:08 cait ok, leaving for work - back later
06:07 dcook Same :(
06:07 cait no idea how to solve it
06:07 cait :(
06:07 cait yeah
06:07 dcook Well, there might always be a factor that screws things up though
06:06 cait at least for display
06:06 cait ideally it should be possible to make both work...
06:06 dcook I suppose it's an issue that affects every system too. There's always going to be conflicting data standards and systems :/
06:05 dcook Like every situation, I suppose ;)
06:04 cait really have no good solution yet - both options have advantages and disadvantages I think
06:04 cait bit of guessing here
06:03 dcook I was thinking that there had to be something like that
06:03 dcook Intriguing
05:59 cait I think in Unimarc you don't have punctuation
05:59 cait germany decided to use marc21 without punctuation marks - but we have them in our data that we import into Koha. I was thinking maybe we could go without... it would make some things look better, like notices and the xslt templates don't need the punctuation
05:58 cait I have been thinking about this too
05:58 cait dcook: it might be it's because unimarc is different
05:42 dcook Perhaps it's a useless question, but is the preference really for the system adding punctuation? I suppose it's possible that other systems do the same...but the whole point of specifying punctuation in your cataloguing standards is so that your data is portable :S
05:40 dcook This means that you get a lot of duplicate punctuation marks when you actually catalogue correctly with AACR2 :/
05:40 dcook Koha often seems to try to anticipate needed punctuation, especially when it comes to separating title and subtitle, as well as different elements of the physical description
05:40 dcook I was wondering if anyone had thoughts about punctuation in regards to the display of MARC data
05:37 dcook Good afternoon #koha
05:17 cait good morning #koha
03:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8592 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Pendingreserves.tt is showing "Previous" and "Next" text over the "Previous" and "Next" buttons on the jQuery datatable
03:51 dcook bug 8592 if you're curious anymore ;)
03:43 * dcook will just post the bug...
03:43 dcook Now that I look at it, maybe the actual function was broken in 1.8.1, but it just looked OK
03:37 dcook Sounds good, mtj
03:36 thd Good night again.
03:36 thd gmcharlt: The wiki machine does not even respond to ssh.
03:36 mtj dcook: screenshots too, on this one ;)
03:35 thd gmcharlt: please reboot the wiki machine or otherwise restore connectivity whenever you are awake.
03:34 mtj heh, i should shut-up until i look at it
03:33 dcook You sweet-talker you :p
03:33 mtj if you log a bug, ill take a look at it :)
03:33 thd Ok, the server seems to be down, not just the wiki on the server.
03:33 dcook The jquery script is building the links differently
03:32 dcook mtj: how is that possibly a css styling bug?
03:32 dcook Yup. Looks like it's down
03:32 dcook On it, thd
03:32 thd Would someone else confirm that?
03:31 thd I have just noted that wiki.koha-community.org is down.
03:31 dcook But in 3.9.x, the titles for the links are gone, and "Previous" and "None" are shown as link text
03:31 mtj sounds like an obvious css styling bug, in koha
03:31 dcook In 3.8.0, "Previous" and "None" were titles for the links
03:31 mtj sounds like an obvious css styling bug
03:30 dcook In at least 3.8.0
03:30 dcook Take a look at /cgi-bin/koha/circ/pendingreserves.pl
03:29 dcook But text is being shown over top of those images
03:29 dcook In Koha, we use images
03:29 dcook On http://datatables.net, the Previous/Next buttons are just text
03:29 dcook I'm wondering if it's a configuration issue of somekind
03:28 dcook It's because it displays the buttons differently
03:28 mtj so if you have another bug in your koha - its probably a koha bug, not a data-tables bug
03:28 mtj on this page -> http://datatables.net/
03:28 mtj pass, i dont understand your bug yet...but that example table looks fine to me
03:27 dcook In either case, it's really too much of a bother right now for a trivial issue
03:27 dcook But when I download 1.9.2, it looks like it needs to build the file.
03:27 dcook I've only ever written JS from scratch or linked to a file
03:27 dcook Which makes me think that perhaps it does have to do with the implementation
03:26 dcook Mmm, no
03:26 mtj it looks correct? yes?
03:26 dcook Got you now :p
03:26 mtj nope, the table, on the page
03:26 dcook I thought that you were saying that there was a list of existing bugs somewhere
03:25 dcook Mmm, I see what you're saying
03:25 mtj the table on this url -> http://datatables.net/
03:25 Brooke later!
03:25 mtj yes?
03:24 mtj .. using jquery.dataTables.min.js version 1.9.2
03:24 mtj .. that looks correct, as far as i can see
03:24 mtj sheesh, theres a table on that url
03:23 dcook Still not sure what you were referring to before mtj, but I'll take a look..
03:21 dcook night, thd
03:20 thd Good night #koha.
03:20 dcook Agreed
03:20 thd dcook: I think that mtj has found the best solution.
03:18 mtj dcook: and if the fix works... log a bug, send a patch ;)
03:16 mtj dcook: try upgrading to 1.9.2 ?
03:16 mtj page is using -> Version: 1.9.2
03:15 thd dcook: mtj is suggesting that the bug does not seem to be present upstream currently.
03:15 mtj look at that page... does the bug exist on that page?
03:15 dcook Not quite following you, mtj
03:15 dcook Thanks, thd
03:14 slef Bye:-)
03:14 mtj dcook: fyi bug doesnt exist here ? -> http://datatables.net/
03:13 thd dcook: Yes add a Koha bug report and link to any upstream bug report.
03:13 slef thd: no. Link it and pray
03:12 mtj theres a 1.9.2 now, fyi...
03:12 thd slef: Do we have a good way of tracking upstream bugs in Bugzilla?
03:12 mtj http://datatables.net/support
03:11 thd dcook: You should then report that bug upstream as well as reporting it at bugs.koha-community.org .
03:11 dcook 1.8.1 was fine, but 1.9.1 introduces the issue
03:11 mtj http://datatables.net/
03:10 dcook JQuery itself
03:10 thd dcook: Are you identifying a bug in the Koha implementation of JQuery or in JQuery itself?
03:09 dcook I hope this is not in bad taste, but now that the meeting is over...how does one report bugs/issues that arise from third-party code? (specifically jquery.dataTables.min.js version 1.9.1 displaying "Next" and "Previous" as link text rather than link titles...
03:09 slef thd: hell yeah. Factor 50
03:09 slef Which I believe is a different city
03:08 slef It's Miami beach really
03:08 slef No
03:08 thd slef: Did you bring your sunblock?
03:08 mtj are you really in miami?
03:07 slef If anyone wants me, I'm in the beachfront poolside bar
03:04 Brooke thanks for coming :)
03:02 slef Cool.thanks all
03:02 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-08-08-02.01.log.html
03:02 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-08-08-02.01.txt
03:02 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-08-08-02.01.html
03:02 huginn Meeting ended Wed Aug 8 03:00:20 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
03:02 Brooke #endmeeting
03:02 Brooke #info next meeting is 5 Sep 18 UTC
03:02 Brooke clearly your silence is a sign of assent
03:01 slef +1
03:01 jwagner +1
03:00 mtj +1
03:00 thd +1
02:59 libsysguy +1
02:59 Brooke +1 if that works
02:59 Brooke proposal is 5 Sep 18 UTC
02:59 mtj cheers #koha
02:59 slef Cool
02:59 mtj oops, ok ... sept 5th , 18 UTC it is then :)
02:58 Brooke I've the 8th as a Sat
02:58 jwagner Should be Sept 5, if we're sticking to Wednesday
02:57 * thd is uncertain which way the clock is turning.
02:57 mtj so, 18 utc, in one month, on sept 8th ?
02:56 slef Cool
02:56 jwagner next one should be 18
02:56 slef I van never remember which easy it goes
02:56 Brooke which is quite possible with 3 hours of exercise and this hour of night XD
02:55 Brooke unless I'm going the wrong way again
02:55 Brooke so it's 18 UTC I think
02:55 mtj slef or thd usually :)
02:55 mtj ok, who is the best here at next-meeting math?
02:54 mtj yep, thats the one :)
02:53 Brooke and hopefully they step up and convince the RM to take it on or no
02:53 Brooke could be
02:53 mtj Brooke: i think gerrit has some champions within Koha...
02:53 Brooke #topic Time of Next Meeting
02:52 Brooke I assume this will resurface if folks want to pursue it between now and next month, but I expect it might die in a back alley
02:52 Brooke movin' on
02:51 mtj i agree with slef and rangi - the RM makes the call for/against gerrit
02:51 Brooke bingo
02:50 thd mtj: Thanks for the clarification. I had been trying to find some deeper association which did not exist.
02:50 mtj thd, yep - you've got it
02:49 rangi gotta go
02:49 thd mahara is a project which happens to use gerrit?
02:49 rangi +1
02:48 slef Rm call
02:48 kathryn oh like me and my cake mixer :D
02:48 slef Yeah agree with rangi
02:48 mtj one uses the other.... optionally
02:48 rangi thats it
02:48 rangi thd: its a tool that the project uses, like we use tools
02:48 mtj thd: like the relationship between koha and git?
02:47 rangi their gerrit is nice and open so its an easy one to look at, to see it in action
02:47 thd Koha does not do much without apache or some other webserver.
02:46 rangi its like the relationship between koha and apache
02:46 slef You know that don't always work
02:46 rangi mahara use gerrit
02:46 rangi thd: none at all
02:46 slef Brooke
02:46 thd The issue which confused me is the relation between gerrit and mahara.
02:46 rangi the RM would have to deal with it on a daily, nay hourly basis, so I really think its their call
02:46 slef Stuck it and see
02:46 Brooke one would hope that folks wouldn't take a survey they didn't know a drop about, or would be screened out XD
02:45 slef Maybe a small risk of becoming a popularity contest?
02:45 rangi what slef said
02:45 rangi would promote a lot of uniformed decisiosn, ie people really need to see it in action first
02:45 slef Looked good but up g torm
02:45 rangi i think a survey without people trying it
02:45 mtj wow, thats very surprising to me ?!
02:44 rangi not at the hackfest nope
02:44 * Brooke smells a survey waiting to happen.
02:44 mtj hmm, at the meeting perhaps not - but most devs are very keen for gerrit?
02:44 rangi i think itd be something an RM could propose as part of their proposal in the future perhaps
02:43 thd rangi: Why was enthusiasm lacking?
02:43 rangi there wasnt a huge amount of enthusiasm
02:42 rangi ahh, that came up at kohacon
02:42 thd rangi: You were not present for the previous meeting so there was no real consideration in your absence.
02:42 thd Using a tool such as gerrit.
02:41 rangi what was that?
02:41 thd We have overlooked rangi's proposal from the previous meeting.
02:41 mtj bootstrap == http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap
02:40 mtj i've got some koha+bootstrap stuff that i plan to show-off soon-ish...
02:40 slef Except it types that fine:-)
02:39 slef Can't get more random than predictive text
02:39 Brooke random stuff goes here
02:38 Brooke #topic Miscellaneous
02:38 mtj no-one wants the 4am meeting-char slot :/
02:37 BobB :)
02:37 Brooke BobB I was serious last time until I was drafted to dictate :P
02:37 BobB Brooke are you serious about stepping down from meeting chair?
02:37 rangi mtj: if you can find 2 ...
02:37 rangi and wanted to continue it for longer than the year, wouldnt hurt
02:37 mtj hay - now about 2 meeting-chairs - for better timezone coverage?
02:36 rangi normally you get a year out a stable series, but if someone was really attached to 3.6.x
02:36 Brooke anything else about roles for 3.12?
02:36 slef I didn't want to code that
02:36 Brooke waha would prolly do a better jorb
02:36 rangi nope Brooke
02:36 thd Does wahanui volunteer to chair meetings?
02:35 Brooke will a kitten in fact die if no one adopts 3.6?
02:35 rangi :)
02:35 rangi or mtj will be doing all of them
02:35 rangi so spread the word
02:35 rangi and QAM
02:35 rangi and meeting chair
02:35 rangi and we need lots and lots more bug wranglers
02:34 Brooke *cough* meeting chair is vacant *cough*
02:34 rangi we need a rmmaint for 3.10 and maybe 3.6
02:34 thd It is a fantastic proposal, and much better than his identity page :)
02:33 Brooke 0200 is psychic!
02:33 Brooke Kiwi wavelength, Bru.
02:33 rangi its a very very good proposal imho
02:33 slef Love this predictive text...
02:33 mtj -> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Jcamins_Proposal_for_RM-3.12
02:32 thd oops, wrong link.
02:32 slef Organised is not the only fruit
02:32 rangi :)
02:32 mtj you definitely speak from experience there, chris
02:32 rangi did you look?
02:32 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.12
02:32 Brooke *hint hint*
02:32 rangi he does
02:32 Brooke yep, but RM is not the only post
02:32 thd However, jcamins should have an actual proposal at some point.
02:31 rangi you have to be a nutjob to want to do it anyway
02:31 rangi just one volunteer for RM is fine
02:30 Brooke it's just Jared so far, so more thinking, but thinking must turn into doing
02:30 Irma #info sorry I must run ... Cheers all.
02:30 libsysguy Koha draft
02:30 * Brooke nods.
02:30 rangi its more a, sign up if you want to do something, or else ill just volunteer you anyway
02:29 rangi http://koha-community.org/koha-newsletter-volume-3-issue-7-july-2012/#roles
02:29 rangi and yep, in the newsletter
02:29 BobB #info Bob Birchall, Calyx - just joining, sorry I'm late
02:29 rangi hmm im sure its been on the mailing list
02:28 Brooke as in "Heads up, 3.12 is a coming!"
02:28 Brooke cause it's the first time in a bit I've seen summat like this
02:28 Brooke I'm going to assume this is a let's talk about this a little
02:28 Brooke #topic Roles for 3.12
02:28 rangi just need a little koha logo, and change the background to not be twitter :) but it looks awesome
02:27 Brooke so things will be prettier soon
02:27 rangi but once he commits the code to git, ill merge and get it running on the server that talks to the live db
02:26 rangi if mtj doesnt care thats fine, its just that it wont ever update :)
02:26 mtj thd: nope -> http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot
02:26 thd ... or merely manual editing of the summary.
02:25 thd Is there an unlink command?
02:25 mtj pass, either/or is ok :)
02:25 rangi mtj: did you want that linked?
02:24 rangi ack
02:24 Brooke #link http://dash.kohaaloha.com/
02:24 Brooke #info new dashboard
02:24 rangi ill change the logos, and get it running on the actual url
02:24 Brooke that is totally going in info :P
02:24 rangi nice! if you push that mason
02:24 Brooke mtj++
02:24 Brooke sweet!
02:23 mtj [off] oops, teh correct url was http://dash.kohaaloha.com
02:23 rangi #link http://koha-community.org/kohacon/kohacon13-2/
02:23 Brooke hooray
02:23 rangi #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon13_Summary
02:23 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon13_Summary
02:23 rangi http://koha-community.org/kohacon13/
02:22 Brooke cause that might not end as their official site
02:22 rangi watch
02:22 Brooke I'm not #linking that
02:22 rangi actually
02:22 Brooke #info watch http://kohacon2013.wordpress.com/venue/ or wherever else the Reno folks decide to update stuff.
02:21 slef he he I'm slow typing on phone here
02:21 Brooke slef: not sure
02:21 Brooke yep, read your apology and your agenda note :)
02:21 slef Next meeting time ok for them?
02:21 rangi #info chris c - late because of another meeting
02:21 Brooke so perhaps eating
02:21 Brooke it's supper time there
02:21 Brooke sure why not
02:21 rangi back
02:20 slef Shall I send them am invite to the next irc meeting?
02:20 Brooke and yes as far as I know libsysguy
02:20 thd Yes, and casinos mean cheap air fare, at least from the US.
02:20 Brooke I just checked the provisional site, and there's naught up there
02:20 slef Anything more known yet?
02:20 libsysguy are there still casinos in Reno?
02:19 Brooke it's in Reno for folks that weren't here last time
02:19 Brooke #topic KohaCon2013
02:18 slef and doesn't work from it like us crazy anglos
02:18 Brooke #info read the RM notes and agenda for progress on 3.8 and 3.10
02:18 Brooke #topic Roadmap to 3.10
02:18 Brooke ^ what that guy said
02:18 Brooke Frenchie national holiday now
02:18 slef So takes a long holiday:-)
02:17 Brooke (and there was another Frenchie just like him at WikiMania, and I had to do my best to not swallow my teeth when he used the same introduction XD)
02:17 * libsysguy gasps
02:17 Brooke Paul is actually French
02:17 Brooke since it's so under the radar
02:17 Brooke for those that do not know
02:16 Brooke Still plan to release 3.8.4 on schedule, I am picking patches that have passed qa, and that fix bugs, directly into 3.8.x. But leaving them set passed QA so paul can push them to master when he gets back. Please continue signing off and doing QA, especially bug fixes.
02:16 Brooke I'm just going to read directly from the agenda
02:16 Brooke #topic Roadmap to 3.8
02:16 kathryn thanks mtj look forward to prettier kittens :)
02:15 Brooke so we'll look forward to seeing that soon :D
02:15 Brooke so the test page does XD
02:15 Brooke I get an it works without the 1
02:14 libsysguy me either…maybe we ddosed it
02:14 kathryn nor me
02:14 thd mtj: That link did not work for me.
02:13 mtj re: neato, nifty, keen
02:13 mtj i've been 'prettiying' chris' koha-dashboard -> http://dash1.kohaaloha.com/
02:13 Brooke anyone want to chime in on 3.6?
02:12 Brooke hi cait
02:11 libsysguy maybe next time ;)
02:10 slef not I
02:10 Brooke #topic Roadmap to 3.6
02:08 Brooke anyone have any neato nifty keen announcements?
02:08 Irma #info Irma Birchall CALYX Australia
02:08 Brooke #topic announcements
02:07 Brooke movin' on
02:07 mtj hi all
02:07 Brooke okie dokie, Chris is at a different meeting. Magnus is sleeping (as I'd hope most Europeans are doing.)
02:06 mtj #info mason james - kohaaloha
02:04 kathryn #info Kathryn Tyree, Catalyst IT, NZ
02:04 dcook #info David Cook, Prosentient Systems
02:04 jwagner #info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS
02:04 libsysguy #info Elliott Davis, ByWater Solutions, Tyler Tx
02:04 kathryn #info
02:03 slef #info MJ Ray, software.coop, Miami
02:03 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
02:03 Brooke Welcome, welcome please introduce yourselves with #info
02:03 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
02:03 Brooke #topic Introductions
02:03 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
02:03 huginn Meeting started Wed Aug 8 02:01:06 2012 UTC. The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
02:02 wahanui if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me
02:02 Brooke #startmeeting
02:02 libsysguy slef I have no idea
02:02 Brooke snap hammah time!
02:02 slef libsysguy: what are you saying?
02:01 dcook Morning #koha
02:00 slef Huh?
02:00 * thd prefers peanut butter without jelly
01:59 libsysguy 3 mins and counting
01:58 Brooke it's almost peanut butter jelly time ^H^H^H^^H time for the meeting
01:39 libsysguy just to see how the hockey team is doing
01:39 libsysguy sometimes I go to koha.com
01:38 libsysguy aww poor slef
01:38 Brooke oh delicious irony!
01:38 Brooke HA!!!!
01:38 libsysguy what a shame
01:38 Brooke I'm sure slef is a member ;)
01:38 libsysguy and its parked on godaddy
01:37 Brooke it's just phunny to see WHO took it XD
01:37 Brooke yeah
01:37 libsysguy omg is that taken
01:36 Brooke the only possible one up on that would be phatcamp
01:36 Brooke is it not the nerdiest?
01:36 libsysguy i wish I had that domain name
01:35 Brooke http://caana2012.thatcamp.org/
01:35 Brooke regular nerding wasn't cutting it this week, so I stepped it up to SuperNerd
01:35 libsysguy heh
01:35 Brooke I think that should be bawlin for thatcamp :D
01:34 libsysguy hehe you're welcome…feel free to use that
01:34 Brooke libsysguy++
01:34 Brooke oh snap!
01:34 libsysguy bam
01:34 libsysguy o/*\o
01:34 libsysguy they can
01:33 Brooke oh yeah, ain't no high five like an IRC high five cause an IRC high five don't stop!
01:31 libsysguy \o
01:30 Brooke o/
01:26 rangi right time to go to the other meeting
01:20 kathryn I'm happy to attend rangi (thanks for reminder)
01:18 rangi kathryn can probably sub in for me
01:18 rangi there i added my bit to the agenda
01:17 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting,_8_August_2012#Agenda
01:17 ibeardslee I think the NZOSS could learn from your irc meetings
01:15 libsysguy irc meetings are better
01:15 libsysguy irl meetings are overrated
01:14 rangi but im gonna be at an irl meeting then, and im not expecting any of the europeans to make it
01:14 wajasu jcamins: i found what prevented AutoCreateAuthorities = generate from working in 3.8.3. The broken environment had 'broader_headings' in the LinkerOptions field. Once I removed that, the record saved.
01:14 libsysguy oh well, back to re-writing the calendar I go
01:14 rangi yeah its in 48 mins
01:13 libsysguy brooke isn't here yet so i think its safe to say we're early
01:13 jwagner One can always hope....
01:12 libsysguy haha if its now it sure is quiet
01:12 jwagner ah, well, coming into the middle of a discussion :-) Wasn't sure if the meeting was now or an hour from now -- I take it that it's later.
01:11 libsysguy ala_3v0: you need to look here http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/grant.html
01:10 libsysguy jwagner I think ala_3v0 needs database permissions
01:06 jwagner ala_3v0, do you mean staff user permissions? Create a patron record with a staff category type, then in the patron details display go under More, Set Permissions.
01:04 ala_3v0 how can permissions be granted?
00:46 libsysguy ala_3v0 it looks like that user doesn't have permissions to do drops