Time  Nick             Message
23:56 Judit            good morning
23:27 rangi            out of date en-nz templates, that was the problem
23:25 jcamins          You're welcome.
23:23 rangi            thanks for checking
23:22 rangi            well thats good in a way :)
23:22 rangi            yeah
23:22 rangi            :)
23:22 jcamins          tools/letter.pl?
23:22 rangi            dangit
23:22 jcamins          It worked for me.
23:22 jcamins          Hm.
23:20 rangi            its not saving for me, and im pretty sure im running a stock 3.6.7 .. so wanted a second confirmation
23:20 rangi            just try editing a notice
23:19 jcamins          Depends what you want me to check. ;)
23:17 rangi            jcamins: do you have a 3.6.7 install up and running anywhere?
23:04 rangi            that was the most succesful mibbit interaction ever
23:03 martian523       ok, i'll tell IT to look into that
23:02 rangi            if it was installed using debian.koha-community.org it should be a simple apt-get upgrade
23:01 martian523       thanks
22:58 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin
22:58 jenkins_koha     tomascohen: Bug 8251 - Follow up, use 'day' instead of 'days' for Datetime::truncate
22:58 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_3.8.x build #126: SUCCESS in 1 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/126/
22:57 rangi            lots and lots of bugs fixed between 3.8.1 and 3.8.3
22:56 rangi            also, if you are still in testing, definitely upgrade to 3.8.3
22:56 rangi            ah well they wont be charging unless you set them to :)
22:56 martian523       we're still in the testing process
22:55 rangi            to see what finesmode is set to
22:55 rangi            and you need to check in systempreferences
22:55 martian523       i just found out about the cron job for email notices since i haven't received any automatic email notices
22:55 rangi            you will need to know for sure, either way, your IT person needs to check the cron job for the fines is running
22:55 martian523       maybe
22:54 rangi            from http://debian.koha-community.org/ ?
22:54 martian523       debian
22:54 martian523       yeah
22:54 rangi            or how did your it person install, using the debian packages? or from the tarball?
22:54 rangi            ah, how did you install?
22:54 martian523       btw, i'm not an IT person
22:53 martian523       not sure about cron job
22:53 martian523       set up my rules,
22:53 martian523       version 3.8.1
22:53 rangi            what version of koha, and have you set up your rules? and have the cron job running, and have the fines mode set to calculate and charge?
22:52 martian523       a book is overdue, but fine is not showing up
22:52 martian523       i have a question about fines, it seems like it's not working
21:56 jenkins_koha     Starting build #126 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:56 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8391 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Cannot view reading record through staff client
21:56 jenkins_koha     robin: Bug 8391: prevent error when viewing circ history with bad dates
21:56 * jcamins        learns about XS.
21:56 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_3.8.x build #125: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/125/
21:51 jcamins          But that's presupposing that I have a koha-conf.xml.
21:49 wahanui          well, config is still wrong.
21:49 rangi            config?
21:49 rangi            hmm?
21:49 jcamins          Okay... this leaves one slight problem. How do I get the kohaclone directory from a test.
21:48 rangi            :)
21:48 * jcamins        figures out how to trick ZOOM into thinking it has Zebra.
21:48 jcamins          Bwahahaha!!!!
21:46 jcamins          Thanks.
21:46 rangi            The foreach is the non-experimental way to set a topicalizer. I
21:45 rangi            http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsyn.html#Switch-Statements
21:45 rangi            for
21:45 jcamins          No, that's experimental. There's another syntax which is allowed.
21:45 rangi            which was added in 5.10
21:44 rangi            but i think its given/when
21:44 * jcamins        continues writing his ifelse statement.
21:44 jcamins          Okay.
21:44 rangi            i dont
21:44 jcamins          The non-deprecated, non-experimental way.
21:43 jcamins          How do you do a switch statement in Perl?
21:42 jcamins          I can do better than this.
21:42 jcamins          Wait.
21:41 jcamins          ... for one brief, shining moment.
21:40 jcamins          Okay, got around that issue.
21:39 rangi            cya mgeist
21:39 mgeist           Have a good evening all
21:38 rangi            maybe filehandles cost more in denmark
21:38 rangi            ahhh
21:38 jcamins          IndexData would.
21:38 jcamins          We wouldn't.
21:36 rangi            running out of filehandles? :)
21:36 rangi            why would we do that?
21:35 * jcamins        wasn't expecting that.
21:35 jcamins          Putting multiple packages in one file screws up Test::MockModule.
21:34 jcamins          Okay...
21:33 rangi            signed off
21:25 jcamins          Yeah. There's more needed, but that was the first thing I noticed.
21:24 rangi            ohh easy peasy change
21:23 rangi            ah yep that was it
21:22 * rangi          does
21:21 rangi            ahh probably not
21:21 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Link see alsos in authorities
21:21 jcamins          rangi: did you apply bug 3462 first?
21:20 rangi            Cannot fall back to three-way merge
21:20 rangi            Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge.
21:20 rangi            atal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/authorities-search-results.inc).
21:20 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8581 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority display doesn't like GND records
21:20 rangi            jcamins: i cant get the patch for bug 8581 to apply on master
21:17 jcamins          Yeah, my brain decided that was too much thinking, so we moved on to plan b.
21:16 rangi            im sure there is, but my brain is not telling me how
21:15 jcamins          (no matter what the accessor)
21:15 jcamins          Is there any way in Perl to create an object that will automagically create any accessors it is called with, and return the same thing?
21:11 gmcharlt         rangi: yeah, that's what I thought
21:10 rangi            doesnt fill me full of confidence
21:10 huginn           04Bug 8181: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace DynArch calendar widget with jQueryUI version
21:10 rangi            http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8181#c12
21:10 rangi            probably not, unless i got another sign off
21:09 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Capitalize strings consistently
21:09 cait             bug 2780
21:09 gmcharlt         asking mostly because one of its side-effects is fixing some breakage introduced by the patch for 2780
21:09 rangi            im currently picking stuff out of the Passed QA queue, that are bug fixes, for 3.8.x (since nothing is going into master for 3 weeks)
21:08 cait             night all
21:08 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8181 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace DynArch calendar widget with jQueryUI version
21:08 jcamins          bug 8181
21:08 rangi            lemme look
21:08 gmcharlt         rangi: would I be correct in making a wild guess that 8181 is not a candidate for backporting to 3.8.x?
20:59 jcamins          Huh.
20:58 jcamins          It's failing on scan.
20:58 rangi            well thats what fialed for me last time
20:58 rangi            it fails on the connection to a test server, the test server is dead
20:57 jcamins          Was anyone else expecting the ZOOM test suite to pass?
20:57 jcamins          huh.
20:57 jcamins          Well...
20:55 jcamins          Or whatever we use.
20:55 jcamins          Or ZOOM.
20:55 * jcamins        goes looking for them.
20:55 jcamins          It seems to me that Net::ZOOM should have some unit tests.
20:55 jcamins          Hey.
20:53 jenkins_koha     Starting build #125 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:45 cait             :)
20:45 kathryn          hi cait :D
20:45 cait             hi kathryn :)
20:44 rangi            jcamins: nice ;)
20:44 kathryn          :)
20:44 jcamins          Good morning, kathryn.
20:44 jcamins          (no unit tests were run for code in C4::)
20:43 jcamins          http://screencast.com/t/Dz9fFKCfHIKa <-- this is what the coverage report should look like.
20:43 kathryn          g'morning
20:29 rangi            "It's a volcano. If it goes. It will go. We'll all be vapourised. Ruapehu and Ngauruhoe  have erupted regularly over the years. Now it is Tongariro's turn."
20:29 rangi            A few locals did drive to the Hirangi Marae in Turangi but most just stood and watched the spectacular show.
20:29 rangi            heh
20:29 wizzyrea         poor horses
20:29 wizzyrea         ewww
20:29 cait             ExtraordinaryBen: :)
20:28 rangi            http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7426862/Mt-Tongariro-erupts-for-first-time-in-over-100-years  <-- yuck
20:27 ExtraordinaryBen Okay, awesome. many thanks. (Ugh, knew it must have been something simple.)
20:27 cait             to do that, create a branch, a patron category with category staff and add a new patron - and then give it permissions from more in the toolbar
20:26 cait             ExtraordinaryBen: you need to create real staff accounts - don't work with the root user
20:26 jcamins          ExtraordinaryBen: you should never log in as the database administrative user.
20:26 ExtraordinaryBen Hello, I'm helping my Library get Koha setup as their new ILS. I've got it up and running, but it doesn't seem to be remembering anything. (Library is always not set, etc.) Any help would be appreciated. ;)
20:25 rangi            night magnuse
20:25 oleonard         Oh wait yes I do. I guess it is working
20:25 jcamins          That was part of the problem.
20:25 magnuse          g'night #koha ;-)
20:24 huginn           magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (9:50 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
20:24 magnuse          @wunder boo
20:23 jcamins          Actually, no, I think the problem is that I misunderstood how Devel::Cover works.
20:22 rangi            back
20:22 * oleonard       doesn't see anything new in action_logs
20:17 wizzyrea         you are going to hurt its feelings
20:17 jcamins          Hehe.
20:17 wizzyrea         you should apologize
20:16 jcamins          I inadvertantly mocked one of the subroutines.
20:16 jcamins          Oh, I see.
20:15 rangi            My stop brb
20:15 huginn           rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on August 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising).
20:15 rangi            @wunder nzwn
20:14 rangi            Heh
20:14 cait             jcamins: scandalous - go and write more tests!
20:14 jcamins          Then I fiddled with things.
20:14 jcamins          Test coverage was at 100%.
20:14 cait             oleonard: does it have built in airbags?
20:14 rangi            I think he is on vacation too
20:14 jcamins          Why is that?
20:14 cait             :)
20:13 jcamins          My tests no longer cover 100% of the files.
20:13 jcamins          Ugh.
20:13 * oleonard       zips into his testing jacket
20:11 * oleonard       had looked at that bug earlier, hoped fredericd was going to sign off since he seemed anxious for it to be pushed
20:10 cait             you were faster :(
20:10 cait             ah
20:10 jcamins          Found it. :)
20:10 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number
20:10 jcamins          Bug 7241.
20:10 rangi            Not off the top of my head
20:09 * rangi          always looks for a signoff angle
20:09 wahanui          it has been said that the bug is that if you scan the barcode on the circ page you aren't allowed to renew it that way
20:09 oleonard         Do you know the bug?
20:09 rangi            You might want to try the patch
20:08 rangi            But u can find it in the log
20:08 rangi            Yep
20:08 oleonard         ...so it can't show the checkout history because biblionumber doesn't get you anything
20:07 rangi            Iirc
20:07 rangi            The bug is it stores biblionumber not itemnumber
20:06 rangi            In the log viewer I think if you just view the circ log?
20:06 cait             I used it to check which checkouts were done using the self check :)
20:05 cait             I know it does log it - ony not sure how to access from within koha
20:05 rangi            Changing numbers ... Not sure it was pushed tho
20:05 jcamins          I have a vague recollection.
20:05 jcamins          was there a bug about this recently?
20:04 rangi            Hmm not modification log, it should be circ log
20:04 jcamins          Ummm...
20:04 oleonard         I have  IssueLog turned on, but when I check the modification log of a book which is checked out, I get nothing
20:01 rangi            Hmm I thought so
20:01 jcamins          oleonard: I think so. Isn't that circ log?
20:01 rangi            I'll switch when I get to work
20:01 oleonard         Can/does Koha log what Koha user performs the transaction when checking something out?
20:00 rangi            I'm not fragile, I can change it
20:00 rangi            Hehe
20:00 * cait           hides
20:00 cait             but the last one is way better than what you have now :)
19:59 cait             I liked the really old one best
19:59 jcamins          Take out the Twitter updates a couple of the other sidebars?
19:57 rangi            I like the photo of kahu though
19:57 rangi            Hehe
19:56 jcamins          You should.
19:56 jcamins          Good.
19:55 rangi            I might switch back
19:55 jcamins          Yeah, but I liked the old layout a lot better.
19:54 jcamins          At which point I discovered that the call to C4::Context->preference('marcflavour') was retrieving marcxml.
19:54 rangi            Oh my blog was good for something!
19:54 rangi            Hehe
19:54 jcamins          I was losing, until cait told me to add a history check.
19:53 jcamins          It was an epic battle.
19:53 nengard          rangi i think we found that one while i was there
19:53 jcamins          And DBD::Mock said "oh yeah? Just you try!"
19:53 jcamins          I switched to DBD::Mock.
19:53 jcamins          rangi: that's the one with the unit tests that were receiving many creative expletives.
19:53 rangi            What's this MARC crap?
19:52 rangi            I get that all the time
19:52 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches
19:52 rangi            Bug 7417 is a good one too
19:52 jcamins          nengard: no!
19:52 nengard          I also got another library complaining about Koha's cataloging interface - shocker!
19:52 jcamins          They should take a look at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/C_&_P_Authority_Control_Improvements_RFC
19:51 nengard          I told them that you were working hard and that new stuff was coming all of the time
19:51 nengard          email sent
19:48 jcamins          It adds consistent options, including access to heading-match, which is what she wants.
19:48 jcamins          Which actually impacts the staff client, too.
19:48 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC
19:48 jcamins          As for the search, that'll be helped by bug 8206.
19:47 nengard          of course they're not on master yet, but they'll be happy to see it
19:47 nengard          I'll email the director over there with that one
19:47 nengard          awesome!
19:47 nengard          hehe
19:47 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8208 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add "create authority" button to auth_finder plugin
19:47 wahanui          bug 8208 is, like, almost done
19:47 jcamins          Bug 8208.
19:46 wahanui          i think bug # is there
19:46 nengard          bug #?
19:46 nengard          which did you do? the add authority in cataloging?
19:46 nengard          then the authority searching - the fact that united states -- encycopedia was getting too broad of results for her
19:46 jcamins          I already implemented that. :P
19:45 jcamins          It's a duplicate.
19:45 jcamins          I didn't see that bug.
19:45 nengard          the fact that you can't add an authority right from cataloging - you have to go out to authorities to create (unless you want Koha to create it for you based on what you type)
19:45 jcamins          Ah, yeah, true browse is very problematic.
19:45 nengard          mainly the lack of browse was a big deal
19:45 nengard          i did report a bunch to calm her down
19:45 jcamins          nengard: I'm not surprised. If you have a list I'd love to see it.
19:44 nengard          :)
19:44 nengard          and I kept saying well we have an expert working on improving things
19:44 jcamins          No, mostly cait had to suffer.
19:44 nengard          oh - jcamins - the training I just did was with an authorities fanatic she wanted so very many many more changes to authorities
19:44 rangi            Heh darn shall I read the logs?
19:44 jcamins          You missed me flipping out about a unit test.
19:43 nengard          good afternoon :)
19:43 rangi            Morning again
19:35 cait             lol - I only asked some stupid questions comparing to pieces of code :)
19:35 jcamins          cait++ # for fixing my unit test
19:34 cait             :)
19:34 cait             but it's really not a big deal, only a bit grumpy tonight
19:33 cait             but it would be nice to use it when needed :)
19:33 cait             yes
19:33 nengard          so you could just not store it and not use the upper or minimum age limites
19:32 cait             oleonard: the problem is that I was told dates of birth are sensitive data - most of our libraries don't store it at all
19:32 nengard          and now the manual reflects that :)
19:32 nengard          but understand why it was done this way
19:32 nengard          i'm with cait
19:32 oleonard         You'd have to create a new preference to define which categories of patrons should require age enforcement
19:31 cait             but leave it empty for adult patrons
19:31 cait             so you coul give the birthdate for not adult patrons
19:30 cait             not check
19:30 oleonard         cait: How would it handle empty birthdates if the field was not mandatory?
19:30 cait             but I know it was not you :)
19:29 cait             oleonard: I don't like that much :(
19:29 nengard          thanks!
19:29 nengard          got it
19:29 oleonard         It will only check the birthdate limit if the field is mandatory
19:29 nengard          oops .. yes which?
19:28 nengard          or recommend that the birthday be made required if you want Koha to enforce the age limit
19:28 oleonard         Yes
19:28 nengard          Do I need to say that the birthday limit is only checked if that field is mandatory?
19:28 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8392 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Stable , Memberentry is not enforcing birthdate restrictions
19:28 nengard          is anyone around (oleonard maybe) who can explain what doc changes I need to make per bug 8392
19:27 mbalmer          someone should change the topic to "Koha - The Weather Channel"
19:25 huginn           oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 30.6°C (2:50 PM EDT on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
19:25 oleonard         @wunder 45701
19:24 wizzyrea         well, 25C ish
19:23 wizzyrea         ! seriously? yesterday it was in the 80's
19:23 huginn           wizzyrea: The current temperature in Jeff's Weather Lab, Lawrence, Kansas is 38.5°C (2:21 PM CDT on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
19:23 wizzyrea         @wunder 66049
19:22 huginn           mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 17.0°C (9:00 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
19:22 mveron           @wunder Basel
19:14 mbalmer          heh ;)
19:14 huginn           mbalmer: unknown tag balmer
19:14 mbalmer          @marc balmer
18:48 huginn           wizzyrea: General information for which a specialized 5XX note field has not been defined. (Repeatable) [a,3,5,6,8]
18:48 wizzyrea         @marc 500
18:35 tcohen           :-D
18:35 tcohen           i'll continue to study that code, and guess i'll ask oleonard for some help
18:34 tcohen           but... needs those variables set from the .pl
18:34 tcohen           yes
18:34 jcamins          So far as I know.
18:34 tcohen           haha
18:34 jcamins          The cover code, though, is all javascript.
18:33 * jcamins        doesn't really know much about it. If your patch works, though, I'll sign off. :)
18:33 tcohen           schema
18:33 tcohen           but... bakertaylor uses that require ; import
18:32 tcohen           which checks for the syspref prior to loading the libs
18:32 jcamins          Agreed.
18:32 tcohen           i think amazon and syndetics stuff should be loaded the same way bakertaylor stuff is
18:32 jcamins          Usually.
18:32 jcamins          We prefer use.
18:32 jcamins          Hehe. I'm not surprised.
18:31 tcohen           and found both used
18:31 tcohen           i'm revisiting opac-detail.pl
18:31 jcamins          use LIB is generally better, I think.
18:30 tcohen           or is it better to use LIB ?
18:30 tcohen           is it ok to require LIB ; import LIB
18:23 jcamins          lol
18:23 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1398 normal, P3, ---, chris, RESOLVED INVALID, Branch management not working with returns
18:23 wizzyrea         AND SO IT CAME TO PASS THAT "bug 1398 - blah blah blah EPIC WIN"
18:23 wizzyrea         our commit messages could be so much more epic
18:22 wizzyrea         LOL
18:21 * oleonard       uses that trick to preface each commit with "And so it came to pass..."
18:20 jcamins          tcohen: http://git-scm.com/book/ch7-1.html
18:20 jcamins          git++ # git is totally awesome
18:20 jcamins          git config --global commit.template $HOME/.gitmessage.txt
18:20 tcohen           u r right
18:19 jcamins          Though- it would be a problem for signing off.
18:19 tweetbot`        [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  How Koha 3.8 Handles Lost Statuses http://t.co/GVjbtqs6"
18:19 jcamins          Yeah, if you only have the one client you could certainly do that.
18:18 tcohen           the missing bit would be setting the commit message editor to insert that automagically
18:17 tcohen           great jcamins
18:16 jcamins          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#Good_commit_message
18:15 jcamins          I was just editing the coding guidelines.
18:15 tcohen           thanks!
18:15 jcamins          tcohen: yeah, that's what Sponsored-by is for.
18:15 tcohen           is it clear what I mean jcamins?
18:14 tcohen           not in the sense of IP and that stuff
18:13 tcohen           'belongs' in the sense of meaning the university has commited some work to an open source project
18:12 tcohen           some time in the future, i'd need my bosses to see it as my contract says any work I do belongs to the University
18:12 jcamins          I guess it's not in the coding guidelines. Adding now.
18:11 tcohen           found it
18:10 jcamins          I'll check.
18:10 jcamins          tcohen: yup.
18:10 jcamins          cait: I think I did.
18:10 cait             jcamins: maybe put it in the coding guidelines as an option?
18:09 tcohen           in the patch comment?
18:09 jcamins          I sent an e-mail to koha-devel about this.
18:09 jcamins          Sponsored-by: University N... Cordoba. :)
18:09 * tcohen         is wondering how to acknowledge that his work on Koha is sponsored by UNC
17:32 * wizzyrea       salutes Callender "anytime!"
17:31 Callender        thanks guys.. and gals! :)
17:31 * wizzyrea       has slept since then
17:31 wizzyrea         sorta
17:31 wizzyrea         I kind of remember this bug
17:31 wizzyrea         it's really likely it'll be better
17:31 tweetbot`        [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "How Koha 3.8 Handles Lost Statuses http://t.co/ndov7R4T #kohails"
17:31 Callender        and I'll see if that takes care of it
17:31 wizzyrea         cool beans :)
17:31 Callender        lets hold off then for me, I'll upgrade this system
17:31 wizzyrea         WFM :)
17:30 Callender        Go to reports > Guided report wizard > View Dictionary > and at that point, I don't see the columns that should be there. If I go into create a new definition, getting to step 3.. just a blank screen.
17:30 wizzyrea         3.8.3 is pretty solid though
17:30 jcamins          wizzyrea: given that I feel doubtful about 3.8.3... yeah, it just might be.
17:30 wizzyrea         that might be understatement ;)
17:30 wizzyrea         heh
17:30 jcamins          Yeah, using 3.8.0 is probably not such a good idea.
17:29 wizzyrea         is an upgrade possible?
17:29 wizzyrea         ah, i'm looking at master
17:29 Callender        This one is,
17:28 wizzyrea         also, which version of 3.8?
17:28 wahanui          the third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/find-version-koha-running/
17:28 wizzyrea         the third question?
17:28 wahanui          the second question is "What is the exact error message?"
17:28 wizzyrea         the second question?
17:28 wahanui          "What are you trying to do?"  "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
17:28 wizzyrea         the first question?
17:27 wizzyrea         what exact steps are you following?
17:27 Callender        I get nothing over here. I wonder if it's something with the DB when it's trying to grab those columns
17:27 wizzyrea         s/works/work
17:27 wizzyrea         step 3 on both guided reports *and* the dictionary works for me
17:26 wizzyrea         hm i'm not having a problem with that actually
17:25 Callender        ok
17:24 jcamins          We should probably remove it.
17:24 jcamins          Don't use it.
17:24 jcamins          Callender: the guided report wizard doesn't work at all.
17:24 Callender        Has anyone seen a problem in 3.08 where when going into the Guided Report Wizard and creating a New Definition, Step 3 is a blank page? I notice that the "Current Terms" section doesn't display either on the dictionary screen
17:20 wizzyrea         ez fix tho :)
17:13 * oleonard       can confirm that, unfortunately
17:04 wizzyrea         silly.
17:02 jcamins          wizzyrea: yes. That's why it's not going into 3.6.x.
17:01 wizzyrea         oh, guess the latest SIP doesn't work with Overdrive - really need to get that set up to allow the line endings to be defined in the conf :/
16:36 tweetbot`        [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Managing Lists in the OPAC in Koha 3.4 http://t.co/0anXabI4"
16:25 jcamins          Heh.
16:25 wizzyrea         you should let us peons answer that ;)
16:25 jcamins          I will respond once I finish what I'm working on.
16:24 jcamins          wizzyrea: I think he couldn't do anything now.
16:24 wizzyrea         I'm rather surprised that he can do anything if he can't connect to mysql
16:23 jcamins          (but couldn't if he tried now)
16:22 jcamins          I am thinking maybe he was able to do it before.
16:21 jcamins          Yeah, I was wondering about that.
16:21 tweetbot`        [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Encrypting SIP2 Traffic with Koha http://t.co/XxXfzq7V via @wordpressdotcom #kohails"
16:21 tweetbot`        [off] twitter: @kohails: "Encrypting SIP2 Traffic with Koha http://t.co/N1MPpiiS via @wordpressdotcom #kohails"
16:21 * oleonard       reading the Koha mailing list
16:21 oleonard         How could one do original cataloging if Koha couldn't connect to MySQL?
16:17 wizzyrea         CRAZY
16:17 wizzyrea         I know!
16:17 oleonard         Because volcano wizzyrea!
16:17 * wizzyrea       startles at the early rangi sighting
16:17 * wizzyrea       waves
16:13 oleonard         Crazy like a fox who doesn't want to get covered in lava
16:13 jwagner          I'd say "let me sleep until the lava gets near my house" :-)
16:13 * rangi          switches them off and goes back to sleep
16:13 rangi            yes, and i crazily have alerts on my phone which wake me up
16:13 liw              rangi, you live in a country with exiting geology!
16:12 rangi            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8W_sGYAQlc  <-- thats ruapehu
16:11 rangi            tongariro they thought was dormant
16:11 rangi            ngaruhoe smokes a lot, but hasnt erupted in ages
16:11 gaetan_B         bye #koha, see you tomorrow !
16:11 rangi            yep
16:11 jwagner          I saw them when I was touristing. They said the last eruption was in the 90s sometime? That would have been Ruapehu?
16:10 rangi            the three of them there, normally it is ruapehu erupting
16:10 rangi            yep
16:10 jwagner          rangi, where is Mt Tongariro -- is that one of the ones near Lake Taupo?
16:05 jcamins          Wow.
16:05 PRA              ok. thanks.
16:04 rangi            http://geonet.org.nz/images/volcano/drums/ch/wtvz/10/drum.png
16:03 rangi            http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7426862/Mt-Tongariro-erupts-warning-for-North-Is-regions
16:03 rangi            why im awake
15:58 jcamins          I started using Koha at 3.0.6/3.2.
15:58 drojf            my guess is that is not possible
15:58 * jcamins        doesn't know, sorry.
15:58 PRA              Ok. How to export bibilo from KOHA 2.0 in marc forma?
15:55 jcamins          No, it is possible. Just very difficult.
15:55 PRA              ok. it's not possible. tell me how to export bibilo from koha 2.0 in *.mrc file?
15:54 * oleonard       wonders if this is up to date: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Upgrading_2.2
15:53 jcamins          Yes, I think so.
15:53 oleonard         Aside from the platform issues, isn't the process 2 -> 3 -> 3.8 ?
15:53 jcamins          PRA: that's going to be a bit of a challenge. There's a document on the wiki, I think.
15:52 drojf            PRA is still here, PR left ;)
15:52 oleonard         That's a big question to have answered in under one minute!
15:50 PRA              How to upgrade koha 2.0.0 on redhat to koha 3.8
15:42 jcamins          gaetan_B: ah well.
15:42 gaetan_B         jcamins: sorry he has already left !
15:42 jcamins          I have a question for him about Moo.
15:41 jcamins          gaetan_B: could you please tell joubu to sign onto #koha?
15:34 kf1              oleonard: I would think so
15:28 oleonard         http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Image_Administration#Enable_upload_of_images
15:27 oleonard         "Allow upload of SVG files in the LocalSettings.php file: $wgFileExtensions[] = 'svg';"
15:26 oleonard         Weird. Maybe it's a configuration thing which could be changed?
15:25 gaetan_B         aah but you can't upload svg files it seems... too bad
15:24 tcohen           OPACAmazonCoverImages pref is not used in opac-detail.pl?
15:21 gaetan_B         now i see them :)
15:21 gaetan_B         yes, somehow all these links had been pushed all the way to the bottom of the page when i clicked "edit"
15:21 oleonard         gaetan_B: I see that link in the left-hand sidebar down towards the bottom
15:20 gaetan_B         s/tanks/thanks
15:20 gaetan_B         aaah tanks oleonard :)
15:20 oleonard         gaetan_B: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Special:Upload
15:19 gaetan_B         i probably just can't find the right tool :-/
15:19 gaetan_B         i'm trying to upload a cleaned up and vectorized logo on the wiki
15:18 oleonard         gaetan_B: I don't think so. Are you having trouble?
15:17 gaetan_B         do i need specific permissions to upload an image to the wiki ?
15:14 tcohen           hehe, missed the terminal
15:14 tcohen           cd op
15:13 oleonard         We should design it to be as efficient as we can all by itself
15:13 tcohen           I agree
15:13 oleonard         I'm talking about out-of-the-box Koha
15:13 tcohen           if you are on a university and have a transparent proxy...
15:12 tcohen           on your infrastructure
15:12 tcohen           oleonard, it depends
15:12 oleonard         Without caching you have to run through each of your cover image sources every time... very time-consuming.
15:11 tcohen           do we have a place on the wiki to paste links to this relevant info?
15:11 oleonard         Yeah, I think it's the same for Amazon
15:11 tcohen           (Google TOS)
15:10 tcohen           Scrape, build databases or otherwise create permanent copies of such content, or keep cached copies longer than permitted by the cache header;
15:10 tcohen           Prohibitions on Content:...
15:07 tcohen           a web proxy is doing it for sure
15:00 oleonard         I wonder if Google's TOS forbids caching book cover images
14:57 tcohen           time to study that code :-D
14:56 tcohen           done
14:56 jcamins          Yes, it should be versioned against master.
14:55 tcohen           is it ok to change the bug to origin/master ?
14:52 jcamins          That would work too.
14:50 tcohen           two prefs? one to choose a default and another to set it to traverse the activated services or just use the default?
14:47 tcohen           (i find it error-prone, but can't think of better solutions)
14:47 tcohen           any other vote?
14:46 jcamins          I'd prefer the single list.
14:46 tcohen           a new <Service>Weight preference for each cover-provider?
14:46 jcamins          tcohen: that'd be my preference.
14:46 tcohen           a | separated list of values?
14:46 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kmkale, NEW , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next
14:46 tcohen           how would #koha propose to achieve that priority thing in bug 7187?
14:41 tcohen           thanks
14:40 tcohen           i'll look at those bugs
14:40 tcohen           (since we went live with 3.8 stock)
14:39 tcohen           so i'd implement it anyway
14:39 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6828 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, barry, Failed QA , Add Admin Dashboard for staff users.
14:39 oleonard         tcohen: Someone tried something similar in Bug 6828
14:39 tcohen           i provided one to my librarians, and they are really missing it
14:39 jcamins          oleonard: I do not.
14:39 tcohen           another question, would it be usefull to provide a daily circulation report on the circulation page?
14:38 oleonard         jcamins: Do you know if kmkale has code in progress?
14:38 * jcamins        is looking forward to kmkale's fixing of said bug.
14:38 tcohen           oleonard, thanks for pointing it
14:38 jcamins          Definitely bug.
14:38 * jcamins        agrees.
14:37 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kmkale, NEW , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next
14:37 kf1              hm
14:37 oleonard         I consider it a bug. Bug 7187 I think matches
14:36 tcohen           http://ffyh.biblio.unc.edu.ar/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=ti&q=dialogo+filosofico
14:36 tcohen           oleonard, is that a bug or a feature?
14:31 oleonard         If you have multiple image sources enabled Koha will try to show covers from each of them
14:30 oleonard         Yes
14:30 tcohen           ?
14:30 tcohen           i mena, we have a cover uploaded, will it still search for it in google (for example)
14:29 tcohen           hi #koha, is the cover image showing feature conditional to the existence of it?
14:26 * eythian        heads to the station to book tickets.
14:05 * kf             believes in her data
14:05 kf               eythian: I have the same here... an dmy data isn't weird :)
14:05 eythian          going to do more science on it though
14:05 eythian          I think it's that the data is weird.
14:04 eythian          kf: nothing, I think
14:04 kf               eythian: share if you find out what's happening? I am curious what's wrong with that sql
14:04 * mtompset       waves bye.
14:04 mtompset         That's why I don't really like autoincrementing fields myself, kf.
14:03 mtompset         Good day (24 hour period), #koha. MAybe tomorrow I'll get to work on Koha stuff.
13:58 kf               thre goes my dream of undoing deletes in the near future...
13:57 kf               nope
13:57 jcamins          That doesn't sound good at all.
13:57 eythian          no, the incrementer should always just increment
13:56 eythian          and 7 for the deletedbiblio
13:56 kf               probably if you delete the last max itemnumber it gets reassigned?
13:56 kf               uhoh
13:55 eythian          that should not be the case.
13:55 eythian          30 rows in set (0.95 sec)
13:55 eythian          > select itemnumber from items where itemnumber in (select itemnumber from deleteditems);
13:55 eythian          well.
13:54 kf               see where the difference comes from
13:54 kf               you could try to compare the results for each union separately
13:53 kf               hm
13:52 kf               hmm.
13:52 kf               using a different borrowernumer of course.
13:52 kf               I see the same in my database
13:52 kf               yeah
13:52 eythian          kf: no difference
13:48 kf               have you tried adding some parentheses?
13:48 kf               hm
13:46 eythian          the catch is, the real query has a ton of fields and gives me even more rows
13:44 jwagner          eythian, I think you're confusing it by trying to include biblionumber inside the union.
13:41 eythian          hmm, the longer ones appear to include duplicates from somewhere...
13:39 kf               eythian: don't know why different results :(
13:32 kf               hmm
13:32 eythian          kf: to include the deleteditems and deletedbiblios
13:32 kf               eythian: why all the unions?
13:31 kf               didn't know how to describe it better
13:31 kf               mveron: I was trying to find an example for you :)
13:31 mveron           kf: Ok, I see some IDs...  Reading helps. Reaing unreadable parts helps as well  :-)
13:31 kf               may I ask what it is you are trying to do?
13:30 eythian          I consider 56 to be the correct answer.
13:29 eythian          jcamins: one gives 56, the other 106 (on the db I'm testing)
13:29 kf               the unreadable part
13:29 jcamins          eythian: I have no idea.
13:29 kf               if you do git log
13:29 kf               ah
13:28 mveron           git rebase 1stcommitid^ --interactive   What is this id?
13:28 kf               mveron: what is the problem? :)
13:27 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Moving an order
13:27 * mveron         is about to sign-off Bug 5349 with 2 patches, but is stuck with the steps on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
13:26 eythian          hey SQL people, why would these two queries give a different number of rows: http://paste.koha-community.org/73 and http://paste.koha-community.org/74 -- the only difference is the fields to select.
13:18 jcamins          However, I had forgotten how monotonous the colors of law books are... you have entire shelves that are all red or all green or the like.
13:18 jcamins          Or you have a digitization grant, I suppose.
13:18 kf               but that's the cover color, not the spine color...
13:18 oleonard         Now, just write an image-recognition bot to load OPAC results, average the color from book cover images, and set the color that way
13:17 kf               hm color bulk update feature using lists of scanned barcodes? :)
13:16 jcamins          oleonard: there doesn't tend to be a lot of retrospective photography to do, if you're using that feature.
13:15 mtompset         That is going to haunt you for a long time, jcamins. :)
13:15 wahanui          i guess jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins
13:15 mtompset         jcamins?
13:15 * mtompset       grins.
13:14 oleonard         jcamins: This from the guy who added an option to allow libraries to scan and upload book covers ;)
13:14 nengard          in any way other than bulk editing
13:14 nengard          I would be amazed if anyone did!
13:14 jcamins          I was just amazed that someone was going to go back and retroactively fill all that out.
13:14 nengard          cause it's easy to bulk edit a bunch of items cause you know what color each series is :)
13:13 nengard          it is more likely to be used in a special library - law specifically - I think
13:13 jcamins          No, it certainly doesn't.
13:13 nengard          and it doesn't really hurt anything to have the option there
13:13 nengard          jcamins nope, but I did read an article in a law library magazine about a library that does that
13:12 jcamins          nengard: is one of your libraries planning on using that? I don't think I've ever encountered a library willing to put that kind of time into noting the colors of books.
13:11 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8412 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , add color icon set
13:11 nengard          oleonard bug 8412 is updated per your suggestions
13:08 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8419 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Suspended holds appear on the daily holds queue
13:08 oleonard         Bug 8419
13:05 oleonard         Hm, so suspending a hold doesn't exclude it from showing up in the holds queue report? That seems like a pretty major failure.
13:04 mtompset         I'd look at my bugs list, but if I do that... I won't stop coding.
13:04 tcohen           hi mtompset
13:02 mtompset         Greetings, ago43
13:02 mtompset         Greetings, tcohen
13:02 * oleonard       is more tired than he should be having not even stayed up late to watch a robot land on Mars
12:47 eythian          good old first-monday, eh.
12:47 liw              eythian, pfft, this is the right UK, it's that day of the month when it doesn't rain
12:46 drojf            it's sunny here actually
12:46 eythian          liw: I think maybe you're in the wrong UK
12:46 oleonard         Our rain was yesterday
12:46 huginn           drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 24.2°C (2:42 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
12:46 drojf            @wunder berlin, germany
12:46 liw              no rain in Manchester, UK
12:45 kf               hm rain in marseille, in Konstanz and in manila... who in #koha is to blame? :)
12:42 mtompset         It's a really loud rain.
12:42 mtompset         Yep... that's about right.
12:42 huginn           mtompset: The current temperature in Manila, Philippines is 23.0°C (8:00 PM PHT on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Heavy Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising).
12:42 mtompset         @wunder MNL
12:38 mtompset         Greetings, jcamins and oleonard .
12:36 jcamins          Hehe.
12:35 kf               lol
12:35 eythian          Well, you said it was raining huginn.
12:35 eythian          though, you'd think a raven would just fly.
12:35 kf               ?
12:35 eythian          I hope huginn is not heavy, getting hit would but unpleasant
12:34 kf               hm. it's raining huginn
12:34 huginn           kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.8°C (2:30 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
12:34 kf               @wunder Konstanz
12:34 kf               :)
12:34 kf               hi oleonard
12:32 oleonard         Hi #koha
12:27 huginn           kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 19.0°C (2:25 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
12:27 kf               @wunder Konstanz
12:27 eythian          If you set the Access-Control-Allow-Origin header, you can specify who is allowed to use them
12:27 eythian          I think it's to prevent *ahem* <airquotes>stealing</airquotes> of fonts from other sites.
12:22 mtompset         Do they have some evil pre-display hook?
12:22 mtompset         Their fonts! How can fonts be a security risk?
12:08 eythian          that's usually the reason cross-site <noun/verb> doesn't work
12:07 eythian          probably something to do with security
12:03 mtompset         Okay... so why don't cross-site font downloads work?
11:59 mtompset         Okay, perhaps cross site font downloads is the problem... let's try ....
11:54 mtompset         Oh that was an overt demonstration of no knowledge on CSI's part.
11:50 mbalmer          ok, many thanks!
11:46 nengard          Of course you can.
11:46 mbalmer          nengard, say, I am writing an article about Koha, may I use your group picture from edinbrugh as an illustration?  (magazine for swiss librarians)
11:45 mbalmer          hi nengard
11:43 nengard          hello
11:43 kf               hi nengard
11:40 eythian          kf: yep
11:39 mveron           eythian: Thanks for the thanks above, welcome :-)
11:39 kf               chinu: ip address I assume
11:39 * mveron         back from lunch
11:36 BobB             hi hdl
11:36 wahanui          hdl: I forgot hdl
11:36 hdl              wahanui: forget hdl
11:35 wahanui          BobB is making me cry!
11:35 BobB             shut up wahanui
11:35 wahanui          OK, eythian.
11:35 eythian          wahanui: shut up wahanui is <reply>$who is making me cry!
11:34 BobB             shut up wahanui
11:34 eythian          http://youtu.be/hkDD03yeLnU <-- sorta like this
11:34 wahanui          i heard kf was cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert.
11:34 chinu            kf?
11:34 wahanui          eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence
11:34 chinu            eythian?
11:34 chinu            really tell me how?
11:33 BobB             LOL !
11:33 eythian          masters degree in computer science ;)
11:32 chinu            how u get that I am from North Maharashtra university, Jalgaon, India?
11:32 kf               thx
11:32 kf               oh
11:32 eythian          kf: in answer to the question: North Maharashtra University, Jalgaon, India
11:31 eythian          it is good here
11:31 BobB             I like lunch.  :)
11:31 BobB             eythian lunch must be good there.
11:30 huginn           BobB: The operation succeeded.
11:30 BobB             @later tell HDL thanks!  I have let Irma know.
11:30 BobB             ah, bien
11:29 eythian          Oui.
11:29 BobB             hi eythian, are you at Biblibre now?
11:29 eythian          BobB: he's having lunch right now
11:29 rangi            http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/C_%26_P_Search_Rewrite_RFC
11:29 wahanui          hdl is probably saying, who when where, how.
11:29 BobB             hdl?
11:28 eythian          And then go to the pub.
11:28 eythian          I just protest that computer science is all about the theory, not the implementation.
11:28 eythian          Nope.
11:28 kf               ... and you don't dare to go into Search.pm?
11:27 eythian          I have a masters degree in it...
11:26 chinu            anybody from computer science?
11:26 drojf            you will understand once you looked at search.pm
11:26 chinu            ???
11:26 * mtompset       laughs.
11:26 drojf            heh
11:26 drojf            and then you have enough
11:25 eythian          (then you stop because you've started drinking)
11:25 eythian          chinu: then you start with opac-search.pl and trace through it until you get to Search.pm
11:25 chinu            I am from computer science
11:24 chinu            I want learn the perl program who searches for given query
11:22 drojf            chinu: please try to explain a) what you are trying to do b) what is not working for you
11:21 chinu            about opac-search u know?
11:19 drojf            eythian: lol excellent
11:19 kf               chinu: I am sorry, I don't understand. where are you from?
11:19 kf               eythian: you are mean, now I will have nightmares again
11:18 chinu            ?
11:18 chinu            while searching which data it matches with query
11:18 eythian          https://twitter.com/Oatmeal/status/232352317603713024 <-- drojf
11:17 kf               can you describe your problem?
11:16 kf               chinu: sorry, I can't help you if you don't have a more specific quesion
11:16 wahanui          kf: I forgot opac search
11:16 kf               wahanui: forget opac search?
11:16 chinu            u know about deatil?
11:16 kf               chinu: what is your problem?
11:16 chinu            how it serches?
11:15 wahanui          i guess opac search is good working for english biblios. i think only problem for mongolian. when i search mongolian than wrong results.
11:15 chinu            opac search?
11:15 chinu            ?
11:15 chinu            have u used opac search
11:14 chinu            i need answer for a Q
11:14 kf               safer
11:14 kf               I think if you want to use a special font, it's probably easier to use a picture instead
11:14 wahanui          what's up, chinu
11:14 chinu            hello
11:14 mtompset         And it's not a browser thing, because I tried under IE and Firefox, and cleared both caches.
11:14 mtompset         Annoyingly, it's like the browser is loading the remote font, and then still decides to use default.
11:11 mtompset         It stopped working for the users too.
11:11 mtompset         He's never gone to the site before.
11:11 mtompset         My co-worker is several hundred miles away.
11:11 kf               I would say, font or browser settings
11:11 mtompset         It stopped working for me.
11:11 kf               local
11:11 kf               see
11:11 kf               ah
11:11 mtompset         It works for my coworker.
11:10 kf               you have it installed? did you install a newer version of your browser or changed the settings?
11:10 mtompset         Yes, it reverted.
11:10 kf               see...
11:10 mtompset         BlackJarRegular... it's not a normal font that is installed everywhere.
11:10 kf               and did it really revert? are you looking at it from the same computer?
11:09 kf               which font did you use?
11:09 kf               I think there are newer tricks around now, but haven't used one of those
11:09 mtompset         The font on our webpage has reverted to the default, despite no CSS changes.
11:09 kf               you know that the font must be available on the computer viewing it?
11:09 mtompset         But for the life of me, I am dumbfounded.
11:09 kf               but you know, fonts are not so easy
11:09 mtompset         Yes, I figured CSS.
11:08 drojf            probably ;)
11:08 wahanui          well, css is probably easier
11:08 kf               css?
11:08 drojf            mtompset: jquery maybe?
11:08 mtompset         If you wanted to change the font of h1#libraryname, how would you do it?
11:08 drojf            hi kf :)
11:07 kf               mj ray :)
11:06 kf               gaetan_B: look for mj on the mailing list :)
11:06 kf               it seems I forgot his last name
11:06 wahanui          hmmm... irc regulars is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
11:06 mtompset         irc regulars?
11:06 kf               mj
11:05 gaetan_B         hmmm kf what's his real name / email address ?
11:05 gaetan_B         kf: that's a good point
11:04 kf               gaetan_B: perhaps mail slef and ask? he might have one available now :)
11:04 gaetan_B         thanks rangi, i'll use one of those to try and do a vectorized version
11:02 mtompset         Greetings, #koha.
11:02 * kf             waves
10:58 * drojf          is waiting for high res colour pictures of martians
10:52 * rangi          watches
10:52 rangi            hmm 1500 .. we have a contestant in this
10:50 rangi            theres even an old freehand file there
10:49 rangi            [off] http://stats.workbuffer.org/logos/
10:49 rangi            [off] http://stats.workbuffer.org/logos/koha-logo-2005-Libre-Bibliotheque.png
10:48 gaetan_B         :)
10:46 rangi            5 mins ill put a copy of them all up for you
10:46 rangi            lucky im paranoid and backed that site up
10:46 rangi            ah ha!
10:45 gaetan_B         *few
10:45 gaetan_B         i did vectorize something a fex month back and i can't seem to find it again
10:45 rangi            because the were tifs on the old koha site
10:44 gaetan_B         i have to blame myself to some extent though
10:44 rangi            youd have to ask the people who hijacked the domain
10:44 gaetan_B         oh ok :D
10:44 rangi            i dont know
10:44 gaetan_B         rangi: hmmm, where are ther other ones ?
10:42 drojf            (11:50:53) slef: I think there may be an earlier one around, used on Calyx's banner, but I need to email Irma to ask.
10:42 drojf            (11:50:23) slef: We will have one used on our banners and will publish it as soon as we've paid the designer.
10:42 drojf            (11:50:02) mbalmer: I was asking slef about the availability of a vectorized Koha logo.
10:42 drojf            from june 17:
10:42 rangi            and thats only one of the logos
10:41 rangi            we have both
10:41 gaetan_B         i thought the tagline was more like  'open-source integrated library system'
10:39 gaetan_B         don't we have a more recent and better version than this one ? : http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/images/Koha-logo-black-and-white.jpg
10:34 * gaetan_B       is again looking for a high res version of the koha logo...
10:33 drojf            hey rangi
10:32 rangi            hi drojf
10:31 drojf            good day #koha
10:16 eythian          too early in the afternoon...
10:16 eythian          mveron: *thanks* for that...
10:10 eythian          mveron: that's for that signoff on the stars things - it's a hard bug to reproduce sometimes.
10:00 kf               hdl: have you seen the request for an arabic list?
09:59 huginn           hdl: The operation succeeded.
09:59 hdl              @later tell BobB creating koha-OZ lists today
09:58 hdl              !later tell BobB creating koha-OZ lists today
09:41 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8547 major, P2, ---, robin, Passed QA , Enabling star ratings causes javascript errors that cause IE to have a boo boo
09:41 jenkins_koha     robin: Bug 8547 - JS error in star ratings breaks IE
09:41 jenkins_koha     Project Koha_3.8.x build #124: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/124/
08:58 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8573 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Translation difficult in picture-upload.tt due to nested sentence in if/foreach/if/elsif - construction
08:58 mveron           kf: Patch for Bug 8573 would need a critical eye...
08:57 mveron           Hi eythian :-)
08:56 eythian          heh
08:56 eythian          hello
08:56 * kf             is counting days... :P
08:56 kf               hi eythian :)
08:43 rangi            must have been stuck in a mail queue somewhere
08:42 rangi            wow mail from may!
08:38 eythian          hiya
08:38 jenkins_koha     Starting build #124 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:38 rangi            hi eythian
08:06 kf               translate.koha... would be more used for a problem with pootle I think :)
08:05 mveron           kf: Ok switched it to templates
08:05 kf               hm you could put it in i18n or templates
08:04 huginn           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8573 normal, P3, ---, veron, NEW , Translation difficult in picture-upload.tt due to nested sentence in if/foreach/if/elsif - construction
08:04 mveron           Bug 8573  - not sure to which component it should belong
08:04 kf               probably safer
08:03 * rangi          decides not to use code when the author doesnt know what license he has put it under
08:02 rangi            https://github.com/ssp/pazpar2-js-client/issues/1#issuecomment-7518531
08:02 rangi            hmm thats not a very helpful answer
07:49 mveron           And the file name:  koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/tools/picture-upload.tt
07:48 kf               mveron++
07:45 * mveron         will file a bug to have better translatable text in: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/tools
07:42 * mbalmer        points at http://www.ioccc.org/
07:37 * kf             suppresses a comment about how you can write unreadable bad code in every language...
07:36 * mbalmer        suppresses a comment about "readable" and "Perl"...
07:34 * mveron         nods as well
07:32 * kf             nods
07:31 rangi            readable code > clever code
07:30 rangi            be it in templates or in code
07:30 kf               sentences puzzled together with if constructs
07:30 rangi            actually thats a good rule in general, don't try and be too clever
07:30 kf               no
07:30 rangi            untranslatable strings?
07:29 kf               please programmers, don't be too clever when constructing sentences in your templates... *sigh* (directed to noone special)
07:29 mveron           hi rangi
07:29 rangi            hi kf mveron and gaetan_B
07:27 gaetan_B         hello :)
07:23 kf               hi mveron :)
07:23 mveron           :-)
07:23 mveron           Hi kf
07:21 kf               good morning #koha :)
07:06 ala_3v0          The error message is on the link above
07:05 ala_3v0          http://mibpaste.com/lvFQLv
07:01 ala_3v0          what if I restore a backup sql file?
07:00 ala_3v0          thanks rangi i'll try to paste it there
06:59 mveron           Hi #koha
06:58 rangi            But now I have to out my children to bed
06:58 rangi            You can paste the whole of the error at paste.koha-community.org
06:57 rangi            Chances are it's file permissions if so
06:56 rangi            Does the early part say something about can't open koha-conf.xml ?
06:53 ala_3v0          can anyone help
06:53 ala_3v0          that is part of it
06:53 ala_3v0          Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 680. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 33. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 33. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/members/moremember.pl line 39. BEGIN failed--com
06:53 ala_3v0          I have this koha software error message when launching the staff interface from browser:
06:19 cait             hi marcelr :)
06:18 marcelr          hi #koha
06:00 cait             mveron++
04:19 dcook            :)
04:18 cait             hi dcook :)
04:18 * dcook          waves to cait
04:14 cait             hi rangi
04:13 rangi            hi cait
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02:21 NZICA            Fair enough... didn't realise IRC users needed sleep >.>
02:20 rangi            probably not many around this time of the day, its late at night or early in the morning for most people
02:19 NZICA            does anyone have 20 seconds to help with an SQL question?
02:19 NZICA            Hi all :)
01:06 dcook            ^_^
01:06 dcook            And that drop-downs would be created if BSort1 and BSort2 were actually defined!
01:05 dcook            Since Sort 1 and Sort 2 show as empty text fields when there is nothing defined in the BSort1 or BSort2 fields, I never realized that they were actually connected!
01:05 * dcook          takes back his question
00:50 dcook            Does anyone know if BSort1 is actually connected in any way to anything?
00:45 dcook            Allo #koha