Time  Nick            Message
23:47 jenkins_koha    Starting build #121 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:47 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8421 minor, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Pushed to Stable , patron images fail when barcode for patron has a +
23:47 jenkins_koha    elliott: Bug 8421 : Added a URI filter to encode a cardnumber for borrowers as to not break patronimage.pl
23:47 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.8.x build #120: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/120/
23:14 huginn          rambutan: joann was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 1 day, 11 hours, 48 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <joann> night all
23:14 rambutan        @seen joann
23:14 rambutan        tnx
23:14 jcamins         Joann, usually.
23:14 rambutan        what's joann's nick?
22:56 jcamins         Awesome!
22:56 rangi           scrolls to the bottom ;)
22:56 rangi           http://www.openstack.org/community/companies/
22:42 jenkins_koha    Starting build #120 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:42 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6655 trivial, P5 - low, ---, meenakshi.r, Pushed to Stable , Sorting order of serial issues in OPAC
22:42 jenkins_koha    meenakshi.r: Bug 6655 - Sorting order of serial issues in OPAC
22:42 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.8.x build #119: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/119/
21:40 jcamins         A good reason, I think.
21:39 jcamins         Ah, because there is no list.pl in 3.6.x.
21:39 rangi           pass
21:38 jcamins         Okay... why am I missing tags/list.pl?
21:38 jenkins_koha    Starting build #119 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:38 rangi           yeah no harm, even if 3.6 isnt currently showing bad behaviour but having those numbers is not useful
21:37 jcamins         Guess it's worth taking that one.
21:37 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8315 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha
21:37 jcamins         Bug 8315?
21:36 jcamins         lol
21:36 rangi           on=oh
21:36 rangi           on i know ill pick an old version, that will work well
21:35 rangi           WHY
21:35 rangi           I have successfully installed Koha 3.06.02 on CentOS 6.3 a few days ago.
21:35 rangi           wth
21:31 rangi           its not a security issue .. spam is the worst that could happen
21:31 rangi           yeah
21:31 jcamins         I'm still pretty dubious about that patch at all.
21:31 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3280 normal, P3, ---, semarie-koha, Pushed to Master , opac/opac-sendbasket.pl security leaky
21:31 jcamins         Bug 3280 will not be going into 3.6.x.
21:30 rangi           probably not spotted as ILSDI is a dead protocl
21:30 rangi           so i think thats needed
21:30 jcamins         Heh. Okay, a while ago.
21:30 rangi           yep
21:30 rangi           3502810346d5e2b24417c47638f2ee42dd5c61d7
21:30 jcamins         Prior to 3.6.
21:29 rangi           2009
21:29 rangi           yeah
21:29 jcamins         So I guess the question is, when did AddReserve change.
21:28 rangi           and ILSDI didnt
21:28 rangi           basically AddReserve changed
21:28 rangi           it didnt set the itemnumber, so was always a biblio level reserve
21:28 rangi           ahh when you place a reserve using ILSDI
21:27 jcamins         I don't know. The lack of an explanation about what exactly the problem is makes it difficult to tell.
21:27 jcamins         Or maybe yes.
21:27 jcamins         No, I don't think so.
21:27 * rangi         looks
21:26 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7299 normal, P3, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Stable , ILSDI HoldItem service does't set the itemnumber in reserves table
21:26 jcamins         Bug 7299... should that go in 3.6.x?
21:24 rangi           ill put it in the 3.8.x
21:24 rangi           cool
21:24 rangi           switches the ordering from planneddate to published date
21:24 jcamins         +1
21:24 rangi           it works as advertised
21:24 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6655 trivial, P5 - low, ---, meenakshi.r, Pushed to Master , Sorting order of serial issues in OPAC
21:24 rangi           any opinions about bug 6655
21:11 rangi           enhancement so i dont have to worry about it for 3.8.x
21:11 rangi           6448 eh
21:10 jcamins         Yes.
21:10 rangi           3 fails in total tho 1 test is failing twice
21:10 rangi           ah right
21:10 jcamins         But another was broken.
21:10 jcamins         One test was fixed.
21:10 jcamins         No, it's back to two.
21:09 rangi           oh and we now have 3 failing tests not just two
21:09 jcamins         I think we're trying to set a record with 3.10: longest period without successfully passing tests.
21:09 ibeardslee      oops
21:09 rangi           was the last succesful build of master
21:09 rangi           july 4th
21:09 rangi           holy crap
20:35 rangi           http://soundcloud.com/fuckmylife/there-might-be-coffee-1  <-- good start to a friday morning
20:25 rangi           lots of rowing finals tonight
20:24 cait            well done :)
20:24 rangi           finally we get a gold
20:24 rangi           http://www.stuff.co.nz/lightbox/sport/olympics/rowing/7405357/New-Zealand-win-gold?KeepThis=true
20:23 rangi           thanks
20:22 trea            wb rangi
20:18 rangi           back
20:07 rambutan        http://boinc.fzk.de/poem/
20:06 rambutan        in fact, at home right now I'm running a German university project
20:06 rambutan        https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php
20:06 jcamins         A distributed computing platform, I think.
20:06 rambutan        https://boinc.berkeley.edu/
20:05 cait            wha tis boinc?
20:05 rangi           My stop back soon
20:05 rambutan        yep
20:05 jcamins         Just 'cause you can? :)
20:04 rambutan        My personal goal is to get a stack of them (3-10 or so), hack a regular power supply to feed power to all of them, and run boinc on them.
20:03 jcamins         You can make the first Koha RARP! (Redundant Array of Raspberry Pis)
20:02 rangi           But it does all work on one
20:02 rangi           Put zebra on a regular one too
20:01 rambutan        Although it might be intriguing to run Koha on a Pi and the db on a regular computer
20:01 rambutan        Actually my thought is to just use them for OPAC access--just the web browser accessing the OPAC URL.
20:01 oleonard        Okay, thanks
20:01 rangi           Email me to remind me and I'll get it
20:00 rangi           Not on my phone
20:00 oleonard        rangi: Do you have a saved report for that which you could share?
20:00 cait            heh
20:00 jcamins         rambutan: getting Koha working on a pi.
20:00 cait            running Koha on it :)
20:00 rangi           Running koha on it
20:00 rambutan        what specifically does drojf have down to an art? Something with the PI?
20:00 rangi           And the statistics table for renews and local use
19:59 rangi           Oh yes, union of issues and old issues with union of items and deleteditems
19:58 rangi           Hmm?
19:57 oleonard        rangi: I'm curious about the statistics reports you allude to in this mailing list thread: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Statistics-in-3-6-tp5718413p5718650.html
19:54 rangi           He has it down to an art
19:53 rangi           rambutan: make sure you talk to drojf about it.
19:52 jcamins         Which I think is probably a reasonable compromise.
19:52 jcamins         However, when it is below a cover image it will indent so that you don't end up with a huge undifferentiated block of text.
19:52 nengard         being on the right i think is more important
19:51 nengard         that's okay
19:51 jcamins         nengard: no indenting to the right of the cover image.
19:50 rambutan        it's not even in a case yet :)
19:50 rambutan        I ordered mine a day before he did from a different company, and mine is still showing backordered for 11 weeks.
19:49 oleonard        Quick, set that pi on the windowsill to cool!
19:49 * jcamins       watches the pi get slashdotted.
19:47 rambutan        http://50.27.205.227 <- my tech's new raspberry pi with apache and some generic template for demo. I think I may buy a bunch and use them for OPACs.
19:46 jcamins         Okay... looks like our best option is to only have indenting for everything other than OL covers.
19:44 rangi           See
19:44 wahanui         hmmm... Guided reports is some of your worst work ever
19:44 rangi           Guided reports
19:44 rangi           Yeah I might just delete that
19:44 jcamins         The stupid indentation doesn't work with OL covers enabled.
19:43 cait            ok, that was mean, no cookies for me
19:43 cait            *hides*
19:43 cait            it's hard to believe, but there is code like guided reports...
19:43 rangi           It may have morphed
19:43 rangi           Hehe
19:43 jcamins         Well, you did a better job on the GB javascript.
19:42 rangi           Based on gb
19:42 rangi           I think I wrote that too, originally
19:42 rangi           :-)
19:42 jcamins         FTR, I dislike our implementation of OpenLibrary covers. I have nothing against the OpenLibrary project.
19:41 jcamins         Ah.
19:41 rangi           Just to the logs it looks like it's theirs
19:41 jcamins         I know.
19:40 rangi           Yeah but we wrote it
19:40 jcamins         The GB javascript you wrote works much better. :)
19:40 jcamins         It just wrecks havoc on CSS.
19:40 jcamins         I mean, not the organization.
19:40 jcamins         rangi: no, I don't blame them.
19:40 rangi           It's ours
19:40 rangi           I don't think it's theirs
19:39 jcamins         Well I reeeeaaaalllllyyyyyy don't like OL's javascript.
19:39 rangi           Get confused
19:39 jcamins         Remember how I said I didn't like OpenLibrary's Javascript?
19:39 rangi           Otherwise ppl running 3.8
19:39 jcamins         Figured it out.
19:38 jcamins         Ohhh.
19:38 rangi           Yeah that's why not done yet
19:38 rangi           Since we link to it in koha, I don't run it off master
19:38 nengard         i think
19:38 nengard         although some of those fields were 3.10 fields only
19:38 nengard         thanks rangi!
19:37 jcamins         And now I can't get the indent back.
19:37 rangi           nengard: I'll update the schema when I've pushed those changes to 3.8.x
19:36 eythian         hiya
19:35 rangi           Morning
19:28 jcamins         Just for everyone's amusement: http://screencast.com/t/yWpGQ6b9J2z
19:28 cait            ok, no real problem all - it#s my German data
19:28 jcamins         Incidentally, have I mentioned recently how much I *hate* CSS?
19:27 jcamins         But I still prefer the local cover images/Google books javascript.
19:26 jcamins         Yes, that is true.
19:25 nengard         for libraries with 10s of thousands of titles that'a a lot of images to take :)
19:25 jcamins         And they don't cover other elements of the page.
19:25 jcamins         nengard: I use my own pictures.
19:24 nengard         open library is free and open and good
19:24 nengard         jcamins how can you not like open library???? the other choices are amazon and google - both trying to take over the world
19:13 nengard         jcamins almost ? new screenshot coming
19:13 eythian         nengard: cheers :)
19:12 nengard         jcamins checking now
19:12 nengard         eythian change made and pushed - live tomorrow
19:12 jcamins         nengard: new patch uploaded.
19:11 eythian         ta :)
19:11 nengard         okey dokey
19:11 cait            the item tab is... messed up badly
19:11 eythian         nengard: a client got a little confused by the word 'show' when it doesn't actually show you.
19:11 * oleonard      winks knowingly at wahanui
19:10 pastebot        "eythian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "nengard: suggested manual content change" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/70
19:10 wahanui         the problem is probably its human beings doing it
19:10 oleonard        cait: What's the problem?
19:10 jcamins         However, I fixed the problem.
19:10 jcamins         I'm not sure I like OpenLibrary covers.
19:10 jcamins         Hm.
19:08 cait            so someone can check? please? :)
19:08 cait            probably
19:08 mbalmer         I guess it was missing firmware.
19:07 mbalmer         perfect.
19:07 cait            mbalmer: I think it is, but haven't seen her
19:07 jcamins         mbalmer: who? Huh?
19:07 mbalmer         is Jorgias ubuntu laptop now usable?
19:07 jcamins         So this is probably another field causing the problem.
19:06 jcamins         Since fixed.
19:06 jcamins         I don't get any embedded search screens, but there was a bug about a 7xx field causing it.
19:06 cait            can someone check a record without items in staff? detail page?
19:05 jcamins         You said you are using open library?
19:05 jcamins         That's really weird.
19:05 jcamins         Oh, wow.
19:04 nengard         jcamins bug updated
19:01 nengard         okey dokey
19:01 jcamins         And remember it is OPAC-only until we agree.
19:01 jcamins         nengard: try the new patch?
18:59 jcamins         I am making the assumption that anyone who sets indicator 2 knows what they are doing, but anyone who doesn't has even odds of getting it wrong.
18:58 cait            i would have fallen over if walking any slower
18:58 cait            trust me, i was slow
18:58 eythian         cait: you should have walked slower then.
18:57 jcamins         Ooh, the indent makes it a lot easier to read.
18:57 cait            was in the city today, but got tired of walking around pretty fast
18:57 cait            yeah it's warm here too
18:57 eythian         it's warm here.
18:57 eythian         cait: yep
18:57 cait            eythian: back in marseille now?
18:56 nengard         :)
18:56 jcamins         Good, 'cause that's what you're getting.
18:56 huginn          nengard: The operation succeeded.
18:56 nengard         @later tell rangi eythian says you're the only one with the power to update schema.k-c.org ? can you do that? It's months out of date and there are new db changes
18:56 nengard         rangi eythian says you're the only one with the power to update schema.k-c.org ? can you do that? It's months out of date and there are new db changes
18:55 nengard         i like the idea of an indent
18:54 cait            lol
18:53 eythian         oh wait
18:53 jcamins         nengard: in order to get this to play nicely with a previous non-enhanced TOC, I have to add a carriage return between the label "Contents:" and the actually contents. Thoughts on indenting it to make it more clear?
18:53 * eythian       flees to Europe to hide
18:53 cait            :)
18:53 cait            you got reported - uhoh
18:52 eythian         rangi does
18:52 eythian         nope, I don't have the power.
18:52 eythian         > robin is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
18:50 eythian         ahh, nginx, not apache
18:50 * eythian       looks more
18:50 eythian         I have access to the server, but I can't see schema on there...
18:49 nengard         ?
18:49 eythian         hmm weird
18:48 nengard         ooo
18:48 eythian         oh maybe
18:48 nengard         :(
18:48 nengard         meh
18:48 nengard         it was last updated in May and needs some new info
18:48 eythian         I don't think so
18:48 nengard         eythian do you have the power to refresh the db schema page?
18:47 nengard         changes pushed - they'll be live tomorrow
18:46 nengard         okay removing that note
18:46 nengard         whew
18:46 eythian         two different does ask.
18:46 eythian         nengard: I just checked, you are correct.
18:46 nengard         or did when i wrote that :)
18:45 nengard         if you have two of the same it shouldn't ask - if you have two diff it should
18:45 eythian         nengard: my client is saying that, I haven't checked. If you have two the same it doesn't ask. I'll test it now,.
18:44 nengard         if you have two of the same it doesn't ask
18:44 nengard         if you have two of different frameworks?
18:44 jcamins         Probably.
18:44 nengard         eythian - wait are you saying it doesn't ask which framework anymore?
18:44 nengard         jcamins i use openlibrary if that matters
18:44 jcamins         Odd. I don't see that.
18:44 eythian         cool :)
18:44 eythian         nengard: it doesn't appear to ever ask for the framework now
18:44 nengard         doing it now
18:44 nengard         eythian, thanks that was a new dev in 3.8 and i didn't update the text! :)
18:43 nengard         i just checked master and now it's a-ok but when i was looking at your patch it wasn't
18:43 eythian         nengard: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/stafflists.html#mergebibrecs -- "Merging will only work with two items that use the same bibliographic framework." ... "If the records were created using different frameworks, Koha will also ask you what Framework you would like the newly merged record to use."
18:43 nengard         in the opac
18:43 nengard         and the rest was below
18:43 jcamins         With the cover images?
18:43 nengard         it made it so that only the title floated to the right of the cover
18:43 nengard         jcamins your patch also did something strange with the cover images
18:41 nengard         :)
18:39 jcamins         Gotcha.
18:39 jcamins         have some fudge?
18:39 jcamins         Uhhh... that is...
18:39 * jcamins       doesn't generally submit patches fait accompli. What's the point of having a community if you're not going to intimidate them until they give you feedback? ;)
18:37 nengard         and then add spacing and it will be perfect
18:37 nengard         so i'd say put it back in the title notes just cause people will complain
18:36 nengard         got it!
18:36 jcamins         As for the intranet, I didn't update it yet because this is mostly CSS, so better to agree on the formatting before I put it in two places.
18:36 nengard         in the staff it doesn't have the fancy formatting at all, but doesn't run in to the previous TOC
18:36 nengard         bingo
18:35 jcamins         Sorry, I was looking at the next line, which looks perfectly correct to me.
18:35 nengard         :)
18:35 jcamins         I see.
18:35 jcamins         Ohhh.
18:35 nengard         right now the second starts on the same line the first left off
18:35 nengard         that's fine if the label is there only once, but we need some spacing between them
18:35 nengard         oh okay
18:35 jcamins         That was intentional.
18:35 jcamins         Yes.
18:35 nengard         i see the contents label only once
18:35 nengard         i'm lost
18:34 jcamins         Better?
18:34 jcamins         I suppose I could make it "Contents (continued):"
18:34 jcamins         The "Contents:" label implies that the contents are separate.
18:34 jcamins         Where they are continuations of each other.
18:34 jcamins         Yes, often there will be dozens.
18:34 nengard         the last library i trained had 4 505 fields on one record
18:34 jcamins         :)
18:33 jcamins         Oh, wait, there's more.
18:33 nengard         and yes I do, but only for testing - the 505 is a repeatable fieldand might have diff contents in each
18:33 jcamins         nengard: yes, I just looked at the screen shot.
18:33 nengard         jcamins see the bug
18:33 jcamins         nengard: you have two 505 fields with the same contents.
18:32 nengard         okay it was the indicator - in the opac it look like it will be nice, but if it's the second toc it's smooching it to the first :) screenshot coming
18:32 jcamins         Good point.
18:31 jcamins         Sounds like you may not have the indicator 2 set correctly. Now that you point it out, I realize that I made an almost certainly unreasonable assumption that it would be correct.
18:31 * oleonard      requests "Take on me" by A-Ha.
18:30 nengard         let me do a video
18:30 nengard         I have two 505s in the staff it shows them both but one is blank (the title/author one) in the opac the formatted one shows but there is no title/author one
18:30 jcamins         And you have an enhanced 505? ind2=0?
18:30 nengard         in the opac it looks the same
18:30 jcamins         Hence the removal.
18:30 jcamins         When I was at ByWater, I remember a lot of people complaining about it showing up *in* the Notes tab.
18:29 nengard         checking the opac now
18:29 nengard         but, anyway, nothing has changed in the staff client
18:29 nengard         XSLT
18:29 jcamins         Okay, I can do that easily enough.
18:29 nengard         people can customize their XSLT and CSS if they want and I know people who are removing it from the top CSLT
18:29 nengard         I think it should be in both places always
18:29 jcamins         No.
18:28 nengard         and does it remove it from the notes even if xslt is off?
18:28 nengard         right
18:27 jcamins         You said it still appears in the XSLT, same as before, right?
18:27 jcamins         Per the commit message, I removed the 505 from the notes tab since it already appears in the XSLT.
18:27 nengard         it showed it before
18:27 nengard         not have it blank
18:27 nengard         okay - but if i don't do punctuation it should still show it
18:25 jcamins         nengard: note that the MARC standard requires you to enter punctuation into the record. It is not to be supplied by the ILS.
18:25 eythian         ("r" is regular reload)
18:24 eythian         I have pentadactyl installed. "R" is force reload in that which is handy.
18:24 jcamins         No scroll lock on the Mac laptop keyboard.
18:24 jcamins         eythian: okay, I confess... I actually just hold down all the modifier keys when I hit refresh.
18:23 oleonard        ctrl-shift-F5-~-Scroll lock-secrethandshake
18:22 eythian         jcamins: ctrl-shift-f5 in some browsers, innit?
18:21 * jcamins       was told that at some point, and, not being sure which was true, just uses Alt-Shift-refresh.
18:21 oleonard        ?
18:21 jcamins         oleonard: except on a Mac, where Shift doesn't reload the CSS, apparently?
18:20 oleonard        Shift-refresh
18:20 jcamins         Oh, and you did an Alt-refresh to reload the CSS, right?
18:20 jcamins         Screenshot please? :)
18:19 jcamins         "Test" does not appear anywhere in the patch.
18:19 jcamins         You're sure it says "Test" with that capitalization?
18:19 jcamins         I wonder what patch I just attached to the bug.
18:19 jcamins         With the word "Test"?
18:19 jcamins         But not right this moment because I am reindexing in a different branch.
18:19 jcamins         I can do that.
18:19 jcamins         And have two sysprefs?
18:18 nengard         it's still in the Marc though
18:18 nengard         jcamins still doesn't work .. it applies but now my toc is replaced with the word Test
18:17 oleonard        Since there will be one for the staff client
18:16 oleonard        Then I definitely think this first patch should create "OPACDidYouMeanFromAuthorities"
18:16 jcamins         oleonard: I'll do a follow-up adding it to the staff client. The markup is a bit different, and I figured it made more sense to start with one.
18:15 oleonard        I wonder if the pref name should be  OPACDidYouMeanFromAuthorities just to be clear. At the very least the description should say OPAC I think
18:15 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Socially tapping into the catalog! http://t.co/tNw27nqo"
18:14 jcamins         oleonard: yes.
18:14 oleonard        jcamins:  DidYouMeanFromAuthorities pref is only for OPAC?
18:13 nengard         can't wait to sign off
18:13 nengard         wanted that for years now
18:12 nengard         :)
18:12 nengard         woo hoo
18:12 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6617 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Patch doesn't apply , table of contents not printing right if entered right
18:12 jcamins         nengard: I'm rebasing bug 6617 now.
18:12 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6448 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , EAN-13 barcode support
18:12 jenkins_koha    * paul.poulain: Bug 6448 follow-up, DBrev number
18:12 jenkins_koha    * dpavlin: Bug 6448 [2/3] Barcodes::EAN13 autoBarcode
18:12 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8477 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Display home & holding branches when checking in
18:12 jenkins_koha    * dpavlin: Bug 6448 [1/3] EAN-13/UPC-A itemBarcodeInputFilter
18:12 jenkins_koha    * dpavlin: Bug 6448 [3/3] EAN-13 barcode labels
18:12 jenkins_koha    * paul.poulain: bug 8477 follow-up for [HTML4] coding guideline
18:12 jenkins_koha    * adrien.saurat: Bug 8477: Displays home/holding branches on return page
18:12 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8455 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Check ins processed through "Check Out" tab of the Patron Record ignore Circulation System Preferences
18:12 jenkins_koha    * kyle: Bug 8455 - Followup - perltidy renewscript.pl
18:12 jenkins_koha    * dcook: Bug 8455 - Check ins processed through "Check Out" tab of the Patron Record ignore Circulation System Preferences
18:12 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #799: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/799/
18:01 cait            heh
17:55 jcamins         Boy, reindexing 100k+ records is boring.
17:54 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Socially tapping into the catalog! http://t.co/IgP4VbiX #kohails"
17:46 nengard         I'm gonna report one and if it's wrong someone can mark it a dup
17:46 cait            hope I remembered correctly
17:46 melia           hi :)
17:46 nengard         those aren't it
17:46 nengard         aren't
17:46 nengard         i just looked
17:46 cait            oh hi melia :)
17:46 nengard         yeah those are it
17:46 melia           the ones I looked at were 5644 and and 8338
17:45 nengard         let's see if i can find that ;)
17:45 cait            the bug should have a reference to another bug maybe
17:45 nengard         okay
17:45 cait            the forgiving fines - and she was told it was a different proble than the wrong due date
17:45 cait            I think it included that
17:45 jcamins         I think melia reported a bug relating to dropbox mode.
17:45 nengard         but that's just with lost items ? but i think it's all items
17:45 huginn          04Bug 5216: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, ASSIGNED , Returning lost material with Forgive Fines does not forgive overdue charges
17:44 nengard         i found this http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5216
17:44 nengard         that's why it's bugging me
17:44 nengard         yeah
17:44 jcamins         Sounds familiar.
17:44 nengard         Like I said I thought I knew it was a bug but don't see a report
17:43 nengard         i don't see a bug for this - but i know it's a bug - does anyone know of a bug for forgive fines at check in not forgiving fines?
17:08 jenkins_koha    Starting build #799 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 29 days ago)
17:06 Morthland11     I can't seem to figure out this Named Virtual Host issue.
17:05 JoeLib001       jcamins: Thanks for the help. :-) Now I get to go do something less fun. ;-)
17:04 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6448 follow-up, DBrev number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6271f9b6c45e8c07cd2c0065884cb2311187d40a> / Bug 6448 [2/3] Barcodes::EAN13 autoBarcode <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=28e5427c600a2cfcf20c294713eb625b4b967f3a> / Bug 6448 [1/3] EAN-13/UPC-A itemBarcodeInputFilter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=089b1151f5d9222e7
17:01 jcamins         Hehe.
17:00 oleonard        Sure, especially if that helps track down my evil twin
17:00 jcamins         How about we leave it as it is for now and get more opinions, because I'm sure that's what I initially suggested and was shot down on.
16:59 jcamins         Hm.
16:59 oleonard        I'm picturing now having the box hidden by default and only shown if there are AJAX results...but I'm not sure how you accommodate the non-js users
16:58 jcamins         But there will always be a delay with AJAX.
16:57 oleonard        I don't see a problem with doing it via AJAX since there's a non-JS-dependent fallback.
16:57 jcamins         The problem with not doing it via AJAX is that the alternative would be to make every single search slower.
16:56 * oleonard      will insist he didn't until presented with IRC logs
16:56 jcamins         Someone did, and I gave it all the weight that I would give you.
16:56 jcamins         I think so.
16:56 oleonard        I did?
16:55 jcamins         Or something along those lines.
16:55 jcamins         When I proposed doing that, you said "don't shift the content by adding or removing the suggestion box."
16:55 oleonard        ?
16:55 jcamins         :P
16:55 jcamins         oleonard: you're the one who told me not to move content!
16:54 oleonard        jcamins: I also don't like the lag between the start of page load and whatever is going to happen in that box. I wonder if that could be handled differently.
16:53 oleonard        jcamins: I think the box should be removed if there are no suggestions.
16:53 cait            bbl :)
16:52 cait            yep
16:52 JoeLib001       So, it's in the loop. :-)
16:52 cait            and then it gets pushed to master (what will be 3.10) and after that if it's a bug to 3.8 and 3.6.x too
16:52 JoeLib001       Gotcha.
16:52 cait            but it will probably not be a different patch really :)
16:52 cait            then next is RM, who might also add a sign-off
16:52 cait            JoeLib001: QA looks at it and maybe adds another sign off
16:51 jcamins         oleonard: right.
16:51 JoeLib001       Cool. :-) So, now it goes through QA processing and an official patch will be released?
16:51 cait            will be back in around 30 min I think
16:51 cait            I think I should go and check if my bike is still there :)
16:51 cait            jcamins: it won't load the pic :( I will check from home
16:50 oleonard        jcamins: So the "not what you expected" box loads in the HTML, then is replaced with the actual results by JS
16:49 JoeLib001       There we go. :-)
16:49 jcamins         :)
16:49 jcamins         JoeLib001: now mark that bug "Signed off," and it'll be ready for QA.
16:48 huginn          04Bug 8550: normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Z39.50 searches for ISBN/ISSN problematic
16:48 JoeLib001       http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8550
16:48 JoeLib001       Woops.
16:48 cait            sloooow internet
16:48 cait            I am still waiting for the picture :)
16:48 JoeLib001       Ok, I think I did it. http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi
16:47 * jcamins       too.
16:47 * oleonard      likes that
16:46 jcamins         oleonard: cait: http://screencast.com/t/nkfkpNbTgyBG
16:45 cait            ah, I see there is some on the bug
16:44 wahanui         oleonard: I forgot ah, there
16:44 oleonard        wahanui: forget ah, there
16:43 cait            can you give me some hints about cataloguing?
16:43 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6617 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , table of contents not printing right if entered right
16:43 cait            jcamins: moving on to bug 6617
16:43 cait            hope you all read what I meant :)
16:43 cait            *sigh*
16:43 cait            and I meant sorting not searching...
16:42 jcamins         cait++
16:40 * jcamins       leaves wizzyrea to determine what needs fixing.
16:39 jcamins         wizzyrea: fix it! :D
16:39 * jcamins       likes this way of solving problems.
16:38 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6600 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Library name linking wrong if current location is different
16:38 jcamins         I objected to the side effect of bug 6600, but looks like I dealt with it by telling wizzyrea to fix it..
16:37 nengard         :)
16:37 nengard         he pushed it to 3.6.5
16:37 nengard         and jcamins did not object
16:37 nengard         if that's it
16:37 nengard         yep it was wizzy not me
16:37 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7271 normal, P3, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Stable , Revert getitems default sort to homebranch instead of holding branch
16:37 nengard         bug 7271
16:37 cait            hm didn't wizzyrea do something about item searching?
16:37 nengard         but 7271
16:37 jcamins         Chances are good that I objected.
16:36 nengard         :)
16:36 nengard         well that might help with the search
16:36 nengard         hehe
16:36 jcamins         nengard: you reported the bug, but I don't remember exactly which one it is.
16:35 nengard         Branch"."
16:35 nengard         "Current Location" in the staff client. Now they are alphabetical by "Home
16:35 nengard         "Prior to Koha 3.8 - Items in a record displayed in Alphabetical order by
16:35 nengard         can someone point me to the bug report that caused this to change:
16:31 oleonard        margin: .5em 0; padding: .5em;
16:31 oleonard        Yup
16:31 cait            oh, rounded corners!
16:31 jcamins         border-radius of... 3px?
16:31 jcamins         Yes, that's very nice.
16:30 * cait          waits for another reindex to finish
16:29 oleonard        border-color #F4ECBE, background-color #FFFBEA
16:28 jcamins         I like the yellow you came up with, oleonard. What color was it?
16:27 jcamins         JoeLib001: actually, you can just do `git format-patch -s -1`, then attach the file it creates to bugzilla.
16:26 JoeLib001       So all I need to do is run: git format-patch -s --subject-prefix='PATCH] [SIGNED-OFF' origin/master
16:20 wahanui         hmmm... signing off is a great idea! or at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
16:20 jcamins         signing off?
16:20 wahanui         okay, jcamins.
16:20 jcamins         signing off is also at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
16:20 wahanui         somebody said ah, there was none I think or another factor
16:20 JoeLib001       Ah, there.
16:20 jcamins         That's the one.
16:20 JoeLib001       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches ?
16:20 wahanui         signing off is a great idea!
16:20 jcamins         signing off?
16:20 jcamins         signing off is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
16:20 jcamins         JoeLib001: I am looking for the page where the instructions *are*.
16:20 jcamins         Sorry!
16:20 jcamins         JoeLib001: you're right. It isn't on that page.
16:19 cait            but I think a bit of blank space would be nicer
16:19 cait            or use some kind of separator
16:19 cait            oleonard: jcamins: maybe make the .. hm spacing between terms a bit wider?
16:18 JoeLib001       jcamins: I have looked at that page. I don't know what I am looking for for signing off on something.
16:18 jcamins         cait: actually, don't pull down the new version of bug 8209 yet. I'd prefer to amend the patch with the good CSS.
16:17 jcamins         Morthland11: yes.
16:17 Morthland11     http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/name-based.html
16:17 Morthland11     like here?
16:17 jcamins         Now, what CSS did you use to get something like that?
16:16 jcamins         Ooh, yes, I like that.
16:15 oleonard        Toned down: http://screencast.com/t/ZEd4ekv9 And I think I like it better left-justified?
16:15 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities
16:15 jcamins         Revised patch attached to bug 8209.
16:15 wizzyrea        set up named virtualhosts
16:15 francharb       see ya all
16:14 Morthland11     how can I make my urls pretty?
16:14 Morthland11     I mean,
16:14 cait            oleonard: his tests are using 1 record :P
16:13 jcamins         oleonard: well, do a search that returns one of them. ;)
16:13 oleonard        I could try, but I've got like two authority records total.
16:12 jcamins         oleonard: actually, what if I posted the revised patch, so you could take a look if you were so inclined.
16:12 mib_n2ebz7      jcamins: That is what I thought - damn. Thanks though. Just need to find a way to move tags to sort correctly!
16:11 jcamins         oleonard: any suggestions how to make it milder?
16:11 jcamins         mib_n2ebz7: sorts on 008.
16:10 mib_n2ebz7      jcamins: thanks!
16:10 jcamins         mib_n2ebz7: checking now.
16:10 Morthland11     * name hosts
16:10 jcamins         Morthland11: just google "dns propagation"
16:09 Morthland11     Can you link me to some help with this name servers issue?
16:09 jcamins         oleonard: maybe a little too much, but definitely better.
16:09 mib_n2ebz7      Hello - can anyone confirm (or not!) if the publication sort on Koha is derived from the 260 tag or the 008? Or is is customisable? Koha 3.6
16:08 wizzyrea        and they'll call their DNS guy, and he'll go, OH GOD MY SERVERS ARE BORKED WE ARE RUNING ON STALE CACHES and fix it ;)
16:08 wizzyrea        say "I can't resolve this URL but it works from the rest of the internet"
16:08 wizzyrea        but you can have the people complaining call their ISP
16:08 Morthland11     Just have to wait?
16:08 wizzyrea        you can't
16:08 oleonard        jcamins: Maybe a milder version of the stock "alert" dialog? http://screencast.com/t/54aguGV0 Or maybe that stands out /too/ much
16:08 Morthland11     How can I fix that?
16:08 wizzyrea        it does happen sometimes.
16:07 wizzyrea        it won't
16:07 wizzyrea        if it's not propagating everywhere, or a particular ISP's DNS servers aren't updating from the root
16:07 Morthland11     I've been wondering how to do that.
16:07 Morthland11     How would DNS be the issue? doesn't DNS just resolve the opac.morthland.org?
16:07 wizzyrea        pretty
16:07 wizzyrea        because then your urls will be prety
16:07 wizzyrea        also, I think you want to set up name hosts on your server
16:06 Morthland11     know that I've done anything.
16:06 * wizzyrea      whispers "DNS"
16:06 Morthland11     t
16:06 Morthland11     I don'
16:06 Morthland11     Maybe the problem is solved.
16:06 Morthland11     Well,
16:06 Morthland11     huh.
16:06 wizzyrea        it does redirect to an IP/Port combo
16:06 jcamins         The OPAC works fine.
16:06 wizzyrea        and search works and all of that
16:05 jcamins         I thought you were hosted on AWS?
16:05 wizzyrea        works from Kansas
16:05 jcamins         Morthland11: I am confused. You called Amazon to troubleshoot a local server?
16:05 Morthland11     our OPAC is at http://opac.morthland.org
16:05 Morthland11     and the Amazon guy gets my IP address and Port.
16:04 Morthland11     I have forwarding from GoDaddy,
16:04 Morthland11     I doubt it,
16:04 Morthland11     likely the same IP
16:04 wizzyrea        yea probably DNS then
16:04 wizzyrea        or you are using the same DNS servers?
16:04 Morthland11     Yes.
16:04 wizzyrea        right, but you are still in the same ISP?
16:04 Morthland11     outside of the local network.
16:04 wizzyrea        can you ping the server by name?
16:04 Morthland11     I can access it from home,
16:03 wizzyrea        or not propagating correctly?
16:03 Morthland11     and they couldn't access it.
16:03 wizzyrea        your DNS is incorrect?
16:03 Morthland11     I called Amazon support,
16:03 Morthland11     Ha. No, I'm not out of town.
16:03 jcamins         Morthland11: or, more likely, your server is down and it just so happens you're out of town. ;)
16:03 jcamins         Morthland11: that sounds like an Apache/network configuration issue.
16:02 huginn          jcamins: The operation succeeded.
16:02 jcamins         @later tell mtj Ping me when you're around? I've run into trouble with the layout of the "Powered by Koha" code, and I don't want to fix it in a way that ruins the idea.
16:02 Morthland11     My OPAC cannot be reached on the internet out of town.
16:01 tcohen          thanks jcamins
16:01 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8463 major, P1 - high, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , Koha/SearchEngine/Solr/Search.pm fails perlcritic test
16:01 Morthland11     My OPAC seems to have some sort of localization.
16:01 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4198 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , deleting an authority refreshes the page
16:01 jenkins_koha    * mtj: Bug 8463 - Koha/SearchEngine/Solr/Search.pm fails perlcritic test
16:01 jenkins_koha    * kyle: Bug 4198 - Followup - PerlTidy authorities-home.pl
16:01 jenkins_koha    * kyle: Bug 4198 - deleting an authority refreshes the page
16:01 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #798: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/798/
16:00 jcamins         I have to ask druthb for an example bulkmarcimport command line every time I want to use it.
16:00 jcamins         tcohen: I don't think so. I always use a matching rule with stage_records and commit_records.
16:00 tcohen          jcamins: is that an option for bulkmarcimport?
15:59 jcamins         There we go. That page.
15:59 jcamins         The page that wahanui is not referring you to has instructions on how to do that.
15:59 wahanui         i heard git was http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
15:59 jcamins         git?
15:59 jcamins         JoeLib001: excellent! Time to sign off on it!
15:59 jcamins         tcohen: yup. Just overlay on biblionumber.
15:57 JoeLib001       jcamins: I got my Git Install working. I applied the patch and it works.
15:56 tcohen          jcamins: can that be done in a safe manner?
15:56 tcohen          thanks oleonard
15:55 * jcamins       generally exports everything, modifies with a script, then overlays.
15:55 JoeLib001       Only way I have batch modified biblio records is with MARCEdit.
15:55 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5725 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, laurence.lefaucheur, Patch doesn't apply , Batch modifications for Biblios
15:55 oleonard        tcohen: Work on Bug 5725? ;)
15:55 tcohen          and need to fix records so they use the same coded value
15:55 tcohen          I introduced the use of RELTERMS
15:55 jcamins         tcohen: depends what you want to do.
15:54 jcamins         Ah-ha! That's what I was missing. How should I make it stand out more?
15:54 tcohen          what's the best way to batch modify biblio records?
15:54 oleonard        I think plain links would be fine if the box stood out more
15:53 jcamins         oleonard: http://screencast.com/t/XKJR7kjBfKb <-- that is without a border
15:53 jcamins         That's with border.
15:53 libsysguy       blah the dialog needs some theming…as is looks like poop
15:53 jcamins         We need advice on what the suggestions in this page should be formatted as: http://screencast.com/t/gzA9ExcCx
15:53 JoeLib001       Hello. :-)
15:52 * cait          sends cookies
15:52 oleonard        Lay it on me.
15:51 jcamins         oleeeoooonnnnnaaaaaarrrrrrdddddddddd!!!! We need you! Help us, oh wise UI expert!
15:51 cait            if there is one, might be the browser
15:51 jcamins         oleonard:
15:51 cait            and the shadow
15:51 cait            nope
15:51 cait            I don't know exactly if that's the best way of displaying the suggestions... maybe we need oleonard :)
15:51 jcamins         I guess you don't like the border.
15:50 cait            jcamins: I think I kinda expected normal links, like the links in the records and in other places
15:49 jcamins         I will change the styling to look less button-y.
15:49 jcamins         Ah.
15:48 jcamins         I didn't use buttons.
15:48 cait            the HASH things looked like buttons
15:48 jcamins         cait: buttons?
15:48 cait            why can't you go up in 3.6?
15:48 wizzyrea        yea, sure I could
15:48 wizzyrea        and we can't go up in the 3.6 series
15:48 cait            wizzyrea: you could remodel one with sql reports?
15:48 jcamins         My parser is turned off whenever it hits quotes.
15:48 cait            wizzyrea: I undertand, you are stuck :(
15:48 jcamins         It's in a string.
15:48 cait            as a programmer... you should be sensitive to that :P
15:48 wizzyrea        because I do circ, and i'm not super confident about 3.8 yet.
15:47 cait            ))
15:47 jcamins         What is the typo?
15:47 jcamins         cait: I need a hint.
15:47 cait            oh
15:47 wizzyrea        and we won't get it for a while
15:47 wizzyrea        just we don't have it
15:47 cait            and it doesn't work still? :(
15:47 wizzyrea        there is
15:47 cait            I thought there was a patch from kyle for that, but I might be mistaken
15:47 cait            on master?
15:47 cait            hm
15:46 wizzyrea        in the export, I mean
15:46 wizzyrea        this thing where the overdues report doesn't list the patron name is really harshing my mellow.
15:46 cait            that sounds complicated :)
15:46 cait            oh
15:46 jcamins         So it was able to make stuff up. ;)
15:46 jcamins         On my system it worked, because I have every popssible combination of authorities patches in every order.
15:45 cait            i git pulled this morning, and it didn't apply, I tested on a new branch this afternoon
15:45 jcamins         cait: that patch de facto reverted a previous change.
15:45 cait            jcamins: not sure i do
15:44 cait            waiting for my reindex to finish :)
15:44 jcamins         cait: now that you describe the results of your testing, I understand why you got the error message about the SHA-1 information.
15:44 cait            and I love that you included a fallback for when javascript is deactivated
15:43 cait            much faster than I expected it to be
15:43 cait            it's very fast too
15:43 cait            I enjoyed testing :) I think the small glitch will be easy to fix
15:43 cait            jcamins: actually I don't think it's rough at all
15:43 cait            useicu seems to make a difference if my an index searches work or not
15:43 jcamins         The Did you mean feature is pretty rough, but I wanted someone other than me to look at it and give me opinions.
15:42 cait            working on the see also now
15:42 cait            i left you gazillions of messages :P
15:42 cait            jcamins: that's ok :)
15:42 jcamins         Will look at your feedback and incorporate it.
15:42 libsysguy       but I can have the dropdown open in the form as well
15:42 jcamins         cait: just got back.
15:42 libsysguy       checking the box will allow open the box
15:42 libsysguy       I had the click date expand the panel and removed all the verbage at the bottom for repeating holidays and replaced it with a checkbox for repeat.
15:41 oleonard        Seems weird to have two different "show me a new panel" type interaction on the same page
15:40 * libsysguy     is now worried
15:40 libsysguy       i can have it replace the whole thing
15:40 libsysguy       only part of it
15:40 oleonard        libsysguy: Does it replace the expanding panel the holidays page uses now?
15:39 * libsysguy     is building out recurrences to work similar to google calendar
15:39 libsysguy       holiday, to create a form based on what kind of recurrence you are setting up
15:38 oleonard        libsysguy: What will you use dialog for?
15:38 libsysguy       off to test my new dialog then :p
15:38 libsysguy       sweet
15:38 oleonard        It is included globally now
15:37 libsysguy       is jquery-ui included in one of the included header files or do I need to include it in the file I'm working on
15:36 oleonard        Of course
15:36 libsysguy       oleonard: I don't mean to beat you down with questions but I have one more
15:34 oleonard        Thanks for the update wahanui
15:33 wahanui         oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
15:33 libsysguy       ok oleonard
15:33 oleonard        libsysguy: No single file for dialog. Re-build the jquery-ui.js file and include the dialog widget.
15:32 libsysguy       then just replace jquery-ui.js
15:32 libsysguy       also oleonard, do I put the single file for dialog from the development file into the plugins folder for koha
15:31 libsysguy       and oleonard yes very much so
15:31 cait            rambutan: you can check with hlt if you want to make sure I think
15:31 libsysguy       it looks awesome
15:31 libsysguy       cait yes he did
15:31 cait            oleonard: :)
15:31 oleonard        Better to tell libsysguy something he already knows than for him to find out he's spent hours developing the seventh or eighth implementation of a mobile OPAC
15:31 cait            did he show you his prototype?
15:31 rambutan        [off]I'm jockeying to get the Koha logo on our new bookmobile (still down the road a few months). Should I have concerns about trademark/copyright?
15:30 libsysguy       mtj saw that I was looking into theming and said hey wait :p
15:30 cait            :P
15:30 cait            so ignore me
15:30 cait            ah ok :)
15:30 cait            libsysguy: he was working on that recently for the opac :)
15:30 * libsysguy     has cait ;)
15:29 libsysguy       but there are a lot of things id like to investigate given the time
15:29 cait            libsysguy: you should talk with mtj
15:29 libsysguy       id like to investigate bootstrap
15:29 cait            oleonard: thought so :( but at least from the wiki it looks like menu is pretty much done
15:29 oleonard        libsysguy: I'd be happy to help with theming
15:28 nengard         still good just not what i want :) hehe
15:28 oleonard        cait: That's the problem
15:28 nengard         meh
15:28 oleonard        nengard: More like coding guidelines
15:28 cait            oleonard: but I couldn't figure out when that will happen :(
15:28 * nengard       didn't read the backlog ? but documentation writing is always welcome :) hehe
15:28 cait            oleonard: did you see? it looks like the menu will be in the next release of jquery ui
15:27 * oleonard      should work on documentation today to get all this out in the open
15:27 libsysguy       i just don't want to hose the theming :p
15:27 libsysguy       i gotcha
15:27 oleonard        libsysguy: I've been using "smoothness" but I think it all gets overridden anyway
15:27 oleonard        Putting them all in one file reduces the number of http requests necessary
15:27 libsysguy       oleonard, do I just choose no theme?
15:26 libsysguy       oh i see, if you pick one you have to pick several
15:26 cait            oleonard: is that to make them smaller?
15:26 libsysguy       http://jqueryui.com/download
15:26 libsysguy       oh…I thought you could pick and choose
15:25 oleonard        libsysguy: They're all bundled into one file
15:25 huginn          cait: The operation succeeded.
15:25 cait            @later tell eythian ... just ignore me... I turned javascript off to test something *sigh*
15:25 libsysguy       can I not just add the dialog js file to the existing deps?
15:25 oleonard        So  core+widget+mouse+position+autocomplete+tabs+datepicker + dialog
15:24 oleonard        when you add the updated jqueryUI library file it should contain the existing dependencies plus only the one you're adding
15:24 oleonard        I haven't done good documentation on this process and I need to
15:24 cait            (take note sounds so important :) )
15:24 oleonard        libsysguy: When I add a new jQueryUI dependency I use the "build custom download" tool on jQueryUI.com
15:24 * cait          listens too :)
15:23 * libsysguy     is listening
15:23 oleonard        libsysguy: Take note...
15:23 libsysguy       nowI just have to figure out how to add it :p
15:23 oleonard        But...
15:23 huginn          cait: The operation succeeded.
15:23 cait            @later tell eythian running into the javascript problem in firefox now...
15:23 libsysguy       ok cool
15:23 oleonard        No it won't
15:23 libsysguy       as far as rebasing etc?
15:22 libsysguy       ahh ok, if I add it will it cause difficulties for you later
15:22 oleonard        ...but those obstacles were with Greybox features, not jqueryUI itself
15:22 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8290 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Replace Greybox library with jQueryUI Dialog
15:22 oleonard        No. I planned Bug 8290 but ran into obstacles.
15:21 libsysguy       I'd like to use it, do you see any issues with that?
15:21 oleonard        Not yet
15:21 libsysguy       oleonard are we using jquery ui dialog anywhere?
15:04 oleonard        eythian: I had two services turned on the other day and got double-ups. If someone changed something then it doesn't work for all of them
15:04 eythian         my dev system has the two turned on in 3.8.3 and I'm not getting double ups
15:04 eythian         oleonard: I haven't checked the code, but it seems to be the case.
15:04 eythian         oleonard: in case I lost signal too early before:
15:04 eythian         yes
14:57 jenkins_koha    Starting build #798 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 28 days ago)
14:57 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6720 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Saved authorities always show as 'Default'
14:57 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8520 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authorities display incorrectly in staff results
14:57 jenkins_koha    * jcamins: Bug 6720 follow-up: fix error when auth has been deleted
14:57 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7470 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Babeltheque improvement and social networks links (like, +1,...)
14:57 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8427 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Patron search results not consistent
14:57 jenkins_koha    * jcamins: Bug 8520: fix authority display in staff client
14:57 jenkins_koha    * elliott: Added a URI filter to encode a cardnumber for borrowers as to not break patronimage.pl
14:57 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8432 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Improvement of serials search results list
14:56 jenkins_koha    * jonathan.druart: Bug 7470: Followup: Changes mailto links
14:56 jenkins_koha    * paul.poulain: Bug 7470 follow-up: adding comments to avoid removal of this file
14:56 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6655 trivial, P5 - low, ---, meenakshi.r, Pushed to Master , Sorting order of serial issues in OPAC
14:56 jenkins_koha    * jonathan.druart: Bug 7470: Followup Move Babeltheque css into a specific file
14:56 jenkins_koha    * kyle: Bug 8427 - Patron search results not consistent
14:56 jenkins_koha    * paul.poulain: Bug 8432 follow-up, fixing error in T::T variable scope
14:56 jenkins_koha    * jonathan.druart: Bug 8432: Change serials results display
14:56 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7839 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Enhancement: Show routing lists attached to patron in Patron record
14:56 jenkins_koha    * meenakshi.r: Bug 6655 - Sorting order of serial issues in OPAC
14:56 jenkins_koha    * paul.poulain: Bug 7839 follow-up fixing HTML4 coding guideline error
14:56 jenkins_koha    * dcook: Bug 7839 [ENH] : Add tab in patron record to show patron's routing lists
14:56 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #797: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/797/
14:56 tcohen          thanks!
14:56 tcohen          will try and come back later!
14:56 tcohen          right
14:56 cait            and then you only have to construct your URL as in the examples
14:56 cait            tcohen: I think the bug has some examples - baically you create an sql report, you can specify how long it should be cached and if you want it publicly accessible or not
14:55 cait            wb eythian - train?
14:50 wizzyrea        ok back
14:47 wizzyrea        actually, brb - don't go away :)
14:47 wizzyrea        what do you want to know about it?
14:47 wizzyrea        that's an enhancement for the feature
14:47 wizzyrea        no, but that is the feature
14:44 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Reports webservice should allow selection by name
14:44 tcohen          bug 8256
14:43 cait            I have a very slw internet connection here - it's a bit painful to look things up
14:43 cait            hm I think look for webservice in bugzilla maybe
14:42 tcohen          cait: where do I search for that webservices?
14:42 tcohen          ok
14:40 oleonard        tcohen: Could it be integrated with custom reports? That would be really cool.
14:40 tcohen          do u think including that in the koha interface could be handy for anyone?
14:39 oleonard        tcohen: I don't have experience with any js charting library
14:39 cait            hm get
14:39 * cait          intends to play lots with that as soon as we got 3.8 :)
14:39 cait            it's very cool
14:39 tcohen          oh
14:39 cait            from sql reports
14:39 wizzyrea        ^^
14:38 cait            a web service that gives you json and caches it - I think you could use that as base for your reports maybe?
14:38 tcohen          which feature?
14:38 cait            tcohen: there is a nice new feature for reports
14:38 tcohen          do u think jqplot is a goog squery library for that? would u recomend another one?
14:38 tcohen          i'll have to implement them again
14:37 tcohen          daily circulation reports
14:37 tcohen          when moving to 3.8 our users lost some nice reports with graphics I made for them
14:37 oleonard        No
14:37 tcohen          oleonard, do we have jqplot in koha?
14:34 wizzyrea        [off] or like this: http://www.beckbookmanlibrary.org/
14:34 wizzyrea        you just cracked me up
14:34 wahanui         oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
14:34 wizzyrea        oleonard
14:34 wizzyrea        HAHAHAHAHAHA
14:33 cait            jcamins_away: ping?
14:33 * oleonard      had not heard of anything like that
14:32 oleonard        eythian: Can you confirm that someone has done something to hide redundant covers?
14:32 cait            I only go into ie when I have to test something.... and I don't like doin git
14:32 * cait          nods
14:31 oleonard        [off] How my library home page would look if I put everything on it that I was asked to: http://codinghorror.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a85dcdae970b0120a86d6311970b-pi
14:31 eythian         And I'm doing it ;)
14:31 eythian         that's an even better idea.
14:31 eythian         load everything hidden, and unhide the things we want to show.
14:31 cait            never use ie?
14:31 eythian         though there is a better idea
14:31 eythian         cait: yeah, I said that
14:30 cait            I think the answer may be to turn off one?
14:30 cait            good strategy
14:30 cait            heh
14:29 eythian         (If it's any consolation, every time an IE issue comes up, I am telling them that IE is the source of the issue and we're working around it for them :)
14:28 eythian         However, in IE this causes a flash of doubled covers to show which vanishes after a moment.
14:28 eythian         It seems someone has added something that means if you have both google and amazon covers turned on, smart things happen (i.e. one of them gets hidden.)
14:21 cait            :)
14:21 francharb       ;)
14:21 * francharb     waves back to cait
14:21 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8463 - Koha/SearchEngine/Solr/Search.pm fails perlcritic test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9226ae46419a5c54447c7d6e27b6163d2c6fd95a> / Bug 4198 - Followup - PerlTidy authorities-home.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=90db8c0e22d5ce9a9203b54d24aa51f99425a78c> / Bug 4198 - deleting an authority refreshes the page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p
14:21 * cait          waves
14:21 francharb       :)
14:21 francharb       thank you
14:20 oleonard        Your broken English > my broken French = you win ;)
14:19 francharb       ;)
14:19 francharb       I go back to my xslt
14:19 francharb       :)
14:19 francharb       \0/
14:18 francharb       "I'm afraid my family lifetime is shorter but I can try" broken english of the day
14:18 francharb       ;)
14:18 francharb       I will  be 119 years old. I'm afraid my family lifetime is shorter but I can try
14:16 oleonard        I hope you can wait francharb
14:15 francharb       hehe
14:15 francharb       ;)
14:15 wahanui         Of course!
14:15 francharb       really?
14:15 wahanui         well, next time is in 87 years or something... ;-)
14:15 francharb       next time
14:14 magnuse         bad planning ;-)
14:14 eythian         afraid so :)
14:14 francharb       ;)
14:14 francharb       to short to  be your guide here
14:14 eythian         heh
14:13 oleonard        Lyon Part-Deux: Lyonier
14:13 eythian         francharb_afk: about 5-10 minutes, when the train starts moving again.
14:13 francharb_afk   eythian, how long do you stay in lyon?
14:13 eythian         (it must be a sequel station or something)
14:13 eythian         francharb_afk: sitting in Lyon Part-Duex right now
14:12 francharb_afk   ;)
14:12 * francharb_afk wave to eythian
14:12 eythian         heh
14:12 eythian         If not, I think I'd be well into Germany by now :)
14:12 oleonard        eythian: Wave to francharb_afk as you go by
14:08 magnuse         eythian: as long as you are headed in the right direction... :-)
14:08 eythian         ah, I'm in Lyon. Good to know.
14:08 * oleonard      discovers he somehow unfollowed rangi on Twitter.. how did that happen?
14:05 oleonard        I only see it once in #kohails search results
14:04 nengard         is the second one cause I was RT'd?
14:03 nengard         :)
14:03 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @nengard: "a quote from en email I got today: "I really think Koha is a winner. It’s intuitive, and the help/doc/tutorials are excellent." #kohails :)"
14:03 eythian         magnuse: hiya. Not sure where I am right now, on a train heading back to Marseille in general though.
14:03 oleonard        Yay us!
14:00 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @nengard: "a quote from en email I got today: "I really think Koha is a winner. It’s intuitive, and the help/doc/tutorials are excellent." #kohails :)"
13:57 * magnuse       waves to eythian, wherever he happens to be today :-)
13:53 tcohen          hi #koha
13:53 jenkins_koha    Starting build #797 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 28 days ago)
13:51 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6720' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=98a207ef955effae8d6b26a1c74bddd9a3c9a801> / Bug 6720 follow-up: fix error when auth has been deleted <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=983012d5b8d32abebf862f348b0de13aa3e549f3> / Bug 8520: fix authority display in staff client <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=c
13:45 paul_p          ... and it work nicely ;-)
13:45 * jcamins       wanders off.
13:44 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4198 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , deleting an authority refreshes the page
13:44 * paul_p        is back to QAing bug 4198 !
13:44 jcamins         Yeah, this is why BiblioAddsAuthorities was a profoundly bad idea.
13:44 talljoy         if you are importing records through z3950
13:44 talljoy         that's a bigger problem than i thought.
13:44 jcamins         Authorities cannot be entered or autogenerated.
13:43 talljoy         so if biblioaddsauthorites is set to don't allow then authorities cannot be autogenerated?
13:43 jcamins         talljoy: yes, because without BiblioAddsAuthorities you can't actually enter in headings.
13:43 paul_p          jcamins right
13:43 talljoy         and setting it to allow breaks things
13:42 talljoy         well autocreatesuthorities says "BiblioAddsAuthorities must be set to "allow" for this to have any effect"
13:42 jcamins         paul_p: excellent! That fixed your problem, right?
13:42 paul_p          jcamins thx, it' s pushed !
13:42 jcamins         talljoy: autocreateauthorities does things. biblioaddsauthorities merely changes the javascript.
13:41 talljoy         jcamins: you said yesterday thatj "as of 3.8, BiblioAddsAuthorities is essentially a no-op."  But I see that sys pref is tied to the AutoCreateAuthorities syspref.  Are both of those sys prefs 'no-op'?
13:34 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8520 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authorities display incorrectly in staff results
13:34 jcamins         Bug 8520.
13:34 jcamins         No.
13:34 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5520 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, pianohacker, RESOLVED FIXED, No .packages file for Ubuntu Maverick
13:34 jcamins         Bug 5520.
13:34 jcamins         paul_p: there's a patch for the HASH() display.
12:55 jcamins         It should be the item's branch, because that's what HomeOrHolding is for.
12:54 nengard         does anyone know (on another note) when we set circ and fine rules is the branch we select from the pull down the it's branch or the patron's branch?
12:53 oleonard        Yes
12:53 nengard         the lost item one?
12:52 * oleonard      is reading nengard's bug report
12:51 oleonard        It's still on their record... why apply a replacement charge?
12:51 * oleonard      doesn't understand some libraries' policy of assessing a fine when making something long overdue
12:30 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6151 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , IndependantBranches and HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn can prevent items from being checked in
12:30 khall           bug 6151 followup needs signoff. It's an easy one.
12:30 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8554 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , marck bibliographic framework test
12:29 oleonard        Given Bug 8554, it sounds like the user is mucking around with mappings and frameworks
12:28 jcamins         I prefer A.
12:28 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8553 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , encountered a problem in searching through Barcode
12:28 oleonard        Bug 8553 sounds like a support request. Close it and direct them to the mailing list, or leave it?
11:41 jcamins         Sure.
11:39 kf              I have some authority linking questions
11:39 kf              jcamins: do you have a minute?
11:38 magnuse         hehe, there is that too...
11:37 jcamins         Not that it wouldn't be cool, but no one would actually use it.
11:35 magnuse         ouch!
11:33 jcamins         magnuse: nah, that would cost as much as all my other authority-related development put together.
11:32 paul_p          'morning oleonard
11:32 oleonard        Hi #koha
11:32 magnuse         ah, ok, just thought maybe there was some overlap
11:31 paul_p          very quiet mailbox those weeks (outsite from bugzilla mails ;-) )
11:31 jcamins         magnuse: not yet.
11:31 magnuse         ...and g'day!
11:31 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8538 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , true browse for authorities
11:31 magnuse         jcamins: will Bug 8538 be covered by some of your work/plans?
09:34 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8556 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , "Mark seen and continue" not translatable in inventory.tt
09:34 mveron          kf: Found one translation issue not related to pootle: Bug 8556
08:49 * paul_p        head to bugzilla and will try to QA & push for the rest of the day...
08:16 dcook           'night everyone. Have a good day of Kohaing!\
08:04 mveron          :-)
08:03 kf              sorry - will try to look into it today
08:03 mveron          ...but I will do the fixes for de-CH as well  ;-)
08:02 kf              no problem then :)
08:02 kf              ah
08:02 mveron          I have no 3.6 installed, so i can not double check
08:01 kf              and if you need corrections in 3.6.x there too
08:01 kf              yep, in the newest project
08:01 kf              ah right
08:01 mveron          I fix it there..
08:01 kf              yes?
08:00 mveron          i.e. http://translate.koha-community.org/de/38/de-DE-i-staff-t-prog-v-3006000.po/translate/
07:59 kf              i think that's the problem gaetan ran into
07:59 kf              be careful with the versions - always fix in the newest too - so it does not come back with the next update
07:58 kf              mveron: yes :)
07:56 mveron          kf: If I see mistakes in the German translation, I can fix them directly in Pootle, right?
07:36 kf              hehe
07:35 magnuse         hehe
07:35 paul_p          magnuse 188cm ! wow! almost like you ! (when I was young, my mother used to say for kidding = "boy, you're like weed, you grow without needing care")
07:33 magnuse         paul_p: she is 188cm so yeah, we expect he'll grow a bit :-)
07:32 paul_p          magnuse if your wife is kinda like you in size, i'm sure he's gaining weight & length steadily :D
07:31 magnuse         gaining weight and length steadily too :-)
07:31 magnuse         paul_p: all well - just had a routine 2-month checkup yesterday with a doc and a midwife, and they could find nothing wrong
07:28 paul_p          magnuse = what are the news of the baby ? (and mother)
07:27 huginn          dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 14.0°C (5:00 PM EST on August 02, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
07:27 dcook           @wunder sydney, australia
07:27 huginn          paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 24.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 02, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
07:27 paul_p          @wunder Marseille, france
07:24 kf              :)
07:23 magnuse         yup :-)
07:23 kf              something named leonard? :)
07:22 magnuse         it's a good thing we have something to distract us... :-)
07:19 kf              ouch :(
07:19 magnuse         two days in july with a temp over 20C...
07:19 kf              quite rainy here too, but it gets better
07:19 wahanui         hmmm... Summer is here now
07:19 mveron          Summer?
07:19 huginn          kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 22.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 02, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
07:19 kf              @wunder Konstanz
07:19 magnuse         it's official - we had a lousy summer
07:19 huginn          mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 21.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 02, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
07:19 mveron          @wunder basel
07:18 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on August 02, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
07:18 magnuse         @wunder boo
07:18 mveron          ...and hi kf  :-)
07:18 magnuse         kf: sorry about that ;-)
07:18 kf              hi mveron :)
07:18 kf              see, that's whathappens when you are away that long - my norwegian gets all rusty
07:18 magnuse         hiya mveron
07:18 mveron          good morning paul_pand and  magnuse  :-)
07:18 magnuse         nope, 100% correct!
07:18 kf              hm that looks wrong :)
07:18 kf              god morgen (?) magnuse
07:17 magnuse         oops, bonjour...
07:17 magnuse         bomjour paul_p
07:16 kf              almost vacation time for you :)
07:16 kf              good morning paul_p
07:16 paul_p          good morning #koha
07:09 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @taratj: "#thatsMYboy! @ranginui: bart just increased statement coverage for C4::Matcher from 6% to 14% & subroutine coverage from 23% to 44% #kohails"
06:57 mveron          dcook:   :-)
06:54 dcook           I've been wondering about this for ages ;)
06:54 dcook           For good detective work...
06:54 dcook           mveron++
06:34 rangi           Ok my bus stop back later
06:33 mveron          Indeed...
06:33 rangi           Ah yep small world
06:32 mveron          I found out because I do the web site for an artist located in New Zealand, and one of his paintings was relatedt to that myth
06:32 rangi           Hehe
06:31 papa            I refuse to be a mother
06:31 rangi           Ah yep it's my middle name
06:30 mveron          http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangi_und_Papa
06:30 rangi           Hmm?
06:30 mveron          and hi dcook
06:30 mveron          rangi: Yesterday I found out the origin of your nickname :-)
06:30 dcook           Hey mveron
06:29 mveron          Hi cait and rangi
06:29 cait            got my mail?
06:29 cait            hi mveron :)
06:29 rangi           Hi mveron
06:29 mveron          Good daytime #koha
06:25 cait            ugh
06:20 rangi           Hi magnuse
06:17 * magnuse       waves
06:11 cait            you are welcome :)
06:10 francharb       thanks for the advice!
06:08 cait            i use notepad++ on windows and geany/padre (still testing too...) on linux
06:08 cait            :)
06:07 francharb       :)
06:07 francharb       cait, geany looks cool! I'm going to test it right now!
06:06 francharb       :)
06:05 francharb       I'm working on a xslt stylesheet, so I'm testing editors at the same time
06:05 cait            not sure this was helpful :) but hoping you find something oyu like
06:04 francharb       thanks
06:04 francharb       cait, ok, I will check this out!
06:04 cait            I like geany for an editor, but it's not specifically for xml
06:03 cait            sorry francharb - I don't have any recommendation
06:03 francharb       ;)
06:03 francharb       I will try somthing else randomly on synaptic then...
06:02 francharb       thanks anyway :)
06:02 francharb       ok
06:01 dcook           Sorry, francharb. I got nothing :/
06:01 francharb       if anyone use any good tool, let me know! ;)
06:00 francharb       weird
06:00 francharb       and... well this morning, it's still the same...
05:59 francharb       yesterday, at the end of the day, the writting cursor was two letters ahead of where it should be... was kind of hard to edit anything!
05:58 francharb       and it's a little bit buggy
05:58 francharb       right now, I'm working with XML Copy Editor
05:57 francharb       guys, ladies, do you have an xml editor to recommend me (that works with ubuntu)?
05:55 * dcook         stores it in the ol' memory bank
05:55 dcook           Yep. It's a handy thing to know :)
05:54 mtj             but its the same idea -  pull the perldoc markup from a perl file, and display it
05:53 mtj             yep, cpan and perldoc.kc.org are doing the same formatting trick  (cpan is perhaps a little prettier, tho..)
05:50 dcook           Mmm, you're right. It does look like a wiki markup
05:50 mtj             so, perldoc syntax is kinda like a 'wiki' markup language...
05:49 dcook           mtj*
05:49 dcook           O_o myj
05:49 mtj             all that pretty info , is generated from this file here... -> http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/GMCHARLT/MARC-Record-2.0.3/lib/MARC/Record.pm
05:48 mtj             like this... -> http://search.cpan.org/dist/MARC-Record/lib/MARC/Record.pm
05:48 mtj             dcook:  if you look at CPAN, most of the info you read is straight from the perldoc
05:48 dcook           Sounds like a good test. I wish you luck :)
05:47 cait            but there are no plans for that :)
05:46 cait            where people speak english.
05:46 cait            well. in this case it would enable me to study abroad.
05:46 cait            hm?
05:46 dcook           ^dangling preposition = bad :P
05:46 dcook           What's the test for?
05:44 cait            I want to take an english test in autumn.. guess that will force me to repeat some of the english grammar we learned at school
05:42 dcook           I can explain French grammar, but my explanations of English are based on what I learned from that
05:42 dcook           Mmm, that's how I feel about English
05:42 cait            dcook: I started to understand it when I learned russian - but I still couldn't explain to someone else really
05:42 cait            dcook: makes sense to me
05:39 francharb       0/ dcook
05:39 dcook           I met some guys from Bavaria when I was in Prague and they said that even they didn't understand German grammar :p
05:39 dcook           hi francharb :)
05:39 dcook           Fair enough
05:39 francharb       hello
05:38 cait            ah kugelschreiber says my dictionary... always confusing those
05:37 cait            füllfederhalter?
05:37 cait            heh
05:37 dcook           But yes...I've heard that the german for "pen" is quite the mouthful
05:37 cait            yep, read what you meant :)
05:37 dcook           Sorry, that's what I meant
05:37 dcook           Right
05:36 cait            please and you are welcome
05:36 cait            hm no
05:36 cait            dcook: yep :)
05:36 cait            for once german is shorter and easier to type... doesn't happen all that often
05:36 dcook           Bitte means thank you and you're welcome, yes?
05:36 dcook           Danke, cait ;)
05:36 cait            you can just say Danke ;)
05:35 dcook           I don't know where all these comma splices are coming from...
05:35 dcook           Merci beaucoup*
05:35 dcook           Ack..
05:35 dcook           Merci, beaucoup rangi and cait :)
05:34 dcook           Answered my own question :p
05:34 dcook           Nvm
05:33 dcook           Do I access them through the perldoc command at the command line?
05:33 dcook           So the man pages show the same thing that I'm looking at on perldoc?
05:32 dcook           I've been pondering a bit lately about how to document well in Perl
05:32 dcook           Very cool!
05:31 rangi           etc
05:31 rangi           http://perldoc.koha-community.org/opac/opac-MARCdetail.html
05:31 cait            jcamins :)
05:31 rangi           http://perldoc.koha-community.org/misc/link_bibs_to_authorities.html et voila
05:30 rangi           misc/links_bibs_to_authorities.pl
05:30 rangi           check out
05:29 rangi           nope .pl too
05:29 dcook           I think that's the only place I've seen it
05:29 dcook           So you can only use POD in .pm files, yes?
05:29 dcook           Always a good thing :D
05:29 cait            document! :)
05:28 dcook           I believe that I'm starting to catch on...haha
05:26 rangi           which is why you should always write POD
05:26 rangi           its created (like the man pages are) from the POD in the perl files
05:26 dcook           I follow you now, cait. It seems that I was looking at a few less than useful pages, but I see what you mean
05:24 cait            perldoc is for developers, I use it for finding which function to use and which arguments it takes and so on - easier to browse than the source code
05:24 * dcook         isn't quite sure of the purpose of perldoc either :p
05:23 dcook           I'm just curious as to how to use these man pages
05:22 dcook           I remember seeing koha-create was a command that came with packages
05:22 rangi           http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages  <-- packages
05:22 rangi           or in the perldoc?
05:21 rangi           in where the packages?
05:21 dcook           Interesting. What type of things are in there?
05:19 rangi           except for the scripts in the packages like koha-create
05:19 rangi           not end user docs
05:19 rangi           its programmer docs
05:18 dcook           Hmmm
05:17 rangi           http://perldoc.koha-community.org/ <-- all there
05:17 dcook           Are those command line accessible onnly?
05:17 rangi           nope
05:17 dcook           I figured it must be a by-product of the install, but wasn't sure if it was still used in some way
05:16 rangi           its where the man pages live
05:16 rangi           its created by make
05:15 dcook           At the moment, I'm trying to figure out the purpose of the "man" directory in Koha
05:14 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @ranginui: "bart just increased statement coverage for C4::Matcher from 6% to 14% and subroutine coverage from 23% to 44% #kohails"
05:14 dcook           Busy, really busy
05:13 dcook           Mid-afternoon ;)
05:11 cait            how is your... evening?
05:11 dcook           Glad to hear it :)
05:09 cait            mostly :)
05:09 cait            hm yes
05:07 dcook           Having a good morning?
05:07 dcook           hey cait :)
05:06 cait            hi dcook :)
05:06 cait            jorgia++ :)
05:02 dcook           Allo #koha
04:52 rangi           jorgia is fixing the purchasing suggestions layout thing on the staff homepage
04:50 cait            yay! :)
04:50 cait            :)
04:50 tweetbot`       [off] twitter: @ranginui: "one student working on fixing a layout bug on the staff page, another unit testing, just another thursday afternoon #kohails fixing session"
04:09 cait            morning #koha
03:21 Judit1          i am looking forward the future- in tv/broadcast industry too
03:19 rangi           :)
03:19 Judit           http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/gaming-the-games-how-net-tools-dodge-network-tv-coverage-20120802-23gw8.html
03:17 Judit           i dont like that tv stations decide on what i want to see
03:17 Judit           and just all tohetger
03:17 rangi           true
03:16 Judit           no coverage at all
03:16 Judit           and i would be interested in the hungarian teams
03:16 rangi           eek, that wouldnt help
03:16 Judit           i guess
03:16 Judit           i ended up with no internet connection, and no tv
03:16 rangi           not so good in our timezones
03:15 Judit           rangi, no not really
02:52 rangi           have you been watching any of the olymics?
02:51 rangi           Judit: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/547876_10151042138853763_798192009_n.jpg
02:32 wahanui         privet, Judit
02:32 Judit           hi
02:10 druthb          hiya, rangi
02:09 rangi           hi druthb
02:09 druthb          o/
01:31 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8518 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Self checkout does not display debt amount if syspref AllowFineOverride is set to allow
01:31 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8503 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Software error n edit items with EasyAnalyticalRecords
01:31 jenkins_koha    * veron: Bug 8518 - Self checkout does not display debt amount if syspref AllowFineOverride is set to allow
01:31 jenkins_koha    * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8503: Software error in edit items with EasyAnalyticalRecords
01:31 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.8.x build #118: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/118/
00:29 jenkins_koha    Starting build #118 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:29 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8204 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Authority viewer in OPAC ugly, unfriendly, and mostly useless
00:29 jenkins_koha    jcamins: Bug 8204 follow-up: quiet warn
00:29 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.8.x build #117: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/117/
00:22 JoeLib001       How do I say it worked?
00:22 JoeLib001       The patch worked.
00:22 JoeLib001       Yay! :-)
00:20 rangi           and now im going to lunch :)
00:20 rangi           yay
00:19 JoeLib001       Woot! :-) It's up. :-)
00:14 JoeLib001       <intrahtdocs>/home/joe/kohaclone/koha-tmpl</intrahtdocs>
00:12 JoeLib001       <includes>/home/joe/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/</includes>
00:12 JoeLib001       Sounds like some more configuration fun.
00:12 JoeLib001       Hmm... not found. :-)
00:12 JoeLib001       Oh.
00:11 JoeLib001       Ok, I got all the dependencies in that were important. I'm still getting this error though: Template process failed: file error - /home/joe/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/prog/en/modules/installer/auth.tt: not found at /home/joe/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 127.
00:08 rangi           they are to dowith the SolR stuff
00:08 JoeLib001       'cause they aren't in my list. hehe.
00:08 JoeLib001       Ah, awesome. :-)
00:08 rangi           but again you dont need them
00:07 rangi           libdata-paginator-perl
00:07 rangi           shouldnt
00:07 JoeLib001       Do I need to pull those using cpan?
00:06 JoeLib001       I'm not finding  a package for Data::Paginator or Data::Pagination
00:03 rangi           yep you want all of those
00:03 JoeLib001       Any of those optional?
00:03 JoeLib001       libstring-rewriteprefix-perl
00:03 JoeLib001       libtest-mockmodule-perl
00:03 JoeLib001       libtime-progresss-perl
00:03 JoeLib001       Ok.
00:03 rangi           id leave them
00:03 rangi           o
00:03 rangi           ahhh, those are optional to
00:03 JoeLib001       I would guess the first one?
00:02 JoeLib001       Do I want libmoosex-types-perl or libmoosex-types-perl-perl?
00:01 rangi           http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=82312383117ec5df678262391ba7a17e94b75336;hp=29891f38f90b14d50da741715fe3e9c31ce0d170
00:01 rangi           hmm this changes the behaviour quite a lot