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21:50 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ranginui: "@lhawthorn if we might be able to persuade you to come speak :) Also .. we are lacking rpm packages for #kohails .. we have .deb"
19:57 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bumping debian changelog
19:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #114: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/114/
19:38 cait hi rangi and jcamins
19:38 rangi hey cait and jcamins
19:36 jcamins Hello.
19:36 cait hi #koha
19:32 wahanui morning is, like, a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast
19:32 jcamins Morning.
19:23 rangi morning
18:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #114 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:29 druthb o/
14:34 mtompset Bye.
14:34 mtompset Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha folk.
14:22 mtompset For those who are lurking or reading the irc logs... anyone wish to set up a Koha RPM Repo? It's just an idea.
14:22 mtompset http://www.slideshare.net/davorg/perl-in-rpmland-presentation
13:30 mtompset Why would anyone care about "stability" over "current" so much that they are years behind?
13:28 mtompset That's 4 stable versions behind!
13:27 mtompset They are still supporting CentOS 5.X which only has 5.8.8!
13:27 mtompset Why would anyone want repositories that are so stale, the mold has mold.
13:26 jcamins 5.6, on the other hand, is.
13:26 jcamins mtompset: stability. Perl 5.10 isn't unreasonable.
13:26 mtompset Why would anyone want a perl 5.10.X when 5.16.X is out?!
13:25 * mtompset grins.
13:25 jcamins I reserve my OS hate for RPM-based distros.
13:25 jcamins No, I really liked Ubuntu up until 12.04 broke everything that I was used to.
13:25 mtompset I HATE CENTOS!
13:25 jcamins :P
13:25 mtompset You hate Ubuntu?
13:25 jcamins But mostly I'll be hearing from *un*happy users, unless I test it. In which case I won't hear from anyone.
13:25 mtompset Wow... EPEL only got me 7 more libraries?!
13:24 jcamins lol
13:24 mtompset So, don't think of it as "No one else is testing this," but rather, "I can't wait to hear back from the happy users."
13:23 mtompset I may even fix them occasionally too. :)
13:23 mtompset Yes, but I'll use them and probably complain about them when they bust.
13:22 jcamins mtompset: no one else is testing the Ubuntu-specific patches.
13:22 mtompset If you were a Debian user, you wouldn't care about Ubuntu's failings. ;)
13:21 mtompset no, you are a Debian-ist. :P\
13:21 mtompset ^that^the^
13:21 jcamins <-- Debian user
13:20 mtompset just delete that blank users and be happy, jcamins. ;)
13:20 jcamins Especially not if those anonymous logins take precedence over actual, authenticated users.
13:20 jcamins I get that the goal is to be more like windows, but having anonymous logins enabled by default is not the way to do it.
13:19 mtompset Yes, koha isn't as bad about security that way. :)
13:19 jcamins Insecure is not turned on by default.
13:17 mtompset Well, think about sessions being handed out without authorizations in Koha. ;)
13:16 jcamins "Anonymous logins? Let's totally add that!"
13:15 mtompset It's the nicest Ubuntu yet. -- though I have heard complaints that stuff in Quantal should have been in Precise.
13:14 mtompset Why?
13:11 jcamins Ugh. I do so loathe Ubuntu 12.04.
12:32 * mtompset grumbles about CentOS running so slowly compared to Ubuntu in my VM.
12:14 mtompset Hmm... wait... I didn't enable the extras repo.
12:13 mtompset They would require a CPAN.
12:13 mtompset There are 25 libraries missing under CentOS.
12:11 mtompset Greetings, drojf
12:08 mtompset if [ "$EQPOS" -eq "0" ]; then
12:03 mtompset else PARM=.... VAL=...
12:03 mtompset if it is 0, then PARM=$1 and VAL=1
12:03 mtompset basically I figure put a check for EQPOS=0
12:02 mtompset I'll tweak the script again, so it will be friendlier to --flags
12:01 * mtompset laughs.
12:01 jcamins But you write this in bash and not perl, so I couldn't figure out how to do that.
12:00 jcamins Really it should be an on/off parameter: --noupdate skips, no --noupdate does not.
12:00 mtompset and it will skip./
12:00 mtompset you could put --noupdate=sillyvalue
11:59 mtompset But this won't toggle.
11:59 mtompset That way you should toggle the value with the parameter.
11:59 jcamins Exactly.
11:59 mtompset rather than $VAL
11:59 mtompset rather than $VAR
11:59 jcamins Right.
11:59 mtompset Because you put SKIP_UPDATE=1
11:58 mtompset Ah, oh okay.
11:58 jcamins Per the instructions.
11:58 jcamins ~/release-tools/check_deps.sh --koha-dir=/home/jcamins/koharelease --list-dir=/home/jcamins/release-tools/sources.lists --dist=debian --release=6.0 --noupdate=1
11:57 mtompset on the command line
11:57 mtompset PARM=${1:0:$((0-1))}
11:57 jcamins No = where?
11:57 mtompset (because there is no =)
11:57 mtompset EQPOS=0
11:57 jcamins What do you mean?
11:56 mtompset Because I would have thought it would truncate --noupdate since you don't have an =
11:56 jcamins Yup.
11:55 wahanui Of course!
11:55 mtompset Really?
11:55 jcamins Works great.
11:55 jcamins Yes.
11:55 mtompset Actually, did you do a test run of your change?
11:55 jcamins Sextuple check, actually. I install Koha six times.
11:53 mtompset Nothing wrong with a good triple check. :)
11:52 mtompset I think it is more OC than paranoid.
11:52 mtompset Yes, but you follow that process compulsively. :P
11:50 jcamins "Oh no, one of the dependencies might not be available. That would be terrible. Awful. Unacceptable. If it isn't, we can't release Koha! Oh, and what about the .packages files? One might be out of date! I think I'll check every time I run the tests. Ooh, it might have stopped installing in the last couple seconds. I'll do a dry run of the installation now."
11:48 mtompset what's to be paranoid about? I would call it obsessive-compulsive. :)
11:48 jcamins (want proof? I wrote release-tool.pl in that same repository)
11:47 jcamins And there's a slight chance that rangi and/or paul_p will use it, but I tend to be the more paranoid.
11:47 mtompset But that would require someone familiar with packaging under RPM-based OS's.
11:46 mtompset If there was a way to provide RPM's of missing CPAN libraries, we could provide repository information and yum update would grab them.
11:46 jcamins Sure I will.
11:45 jcamins No idea at all. That's why my response when someone says "we're using CentOS" is "you should switch to Debian."
11:45 mtompset You aren't going to tell other people about it?
11:45 * mtompset smirks.
11:45 jcamins I'm the only one who is going to use the script. :P
11:44 jcamins What other pair of eyes?
11:44 mtompset Any ideas on how to provide the missing perl dependencies to an RPM-based OS?
11:41 mtompset ...eyes...
11:40 mtompset You just rammed that through... shouldn't there have been a third pair of eye on it?
11:37 jcamins :)
11:37 jcamins Okay.
11:37 jcamins Bah.
11:37 mtompset the initial usage line.
11:37 mtompset missed a bit...
11:35 jcamins Fixed and pushed.
11:34 mtompset The problem is there are several holes in the repository contents/
11:34 mtompset I have the beginnings of a similar script under CentOS 6.3
11:33 * jcamins will fix that.
11:33 mtompset tsk. tsk.
11:33 mtompset And the usage function.
11:32 mtompset You forgot to modify the change log. :P
11:32 mtompset Okay, that makes sense...
11:31 jcamins I'll be running it four times in a row.
11:31 jcamins Right.
11:30 mtompset Oh, you mean for the refreshing the updates?
11:30 mtompset No, apt-get installs done.
11:30 mtompset There's no updating in the first place.
11:29 mtompset --noupdate?
11:26 jcamins mtompset: I added a --noupdate parameter.
11:26 jcamins mtompset: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=release-tools.git;a=blob;f=check_deps.sh;h=8b186f4411fb117926f32782fa390690ed2c0aec;hb=HEAD
10:58 mtompset Greetings, #koha
09:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8486 blocker, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Critical error in Koha::Calendar::days_between calculation
09:27 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 8486 - Follow up making the tests db independent
09:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #113: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/113/
08:23 jenkins_koha Starting build #113 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
04:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8486 blocker, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Critical error in Koha::Calendar::days_between calculation
04:45 jenkins_koha colin.campbell: Bug 8486 Correct calculation of days_between`
04:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #112: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/112/
03:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #112 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:42 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Fixing a cut and paste error in the updatedatabase.pl file
03:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #111: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/111/
03:22 jcamins Fixed it.
03:18 jcamins Well, not that screwed up.
03:17 jcamins My release-tools repo is screwed up.
03:16 jcamins Bother.
02:49 rangi colinc++
02:46 rangi chris_n++
02:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #111 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:30 jcamins Good luck.
01:30 mib_cuhjfx :)
01:30 mib_cuhjfx signing off now... pleasure chatting with you. this was my second time on irc... and i was always leave here happy and relieved.
01:29 jcamins Yes, please do!
01:29 mib_cuhjfx the last thing i was saying was that i will update the wiki page on centos installation with my notes.
01:29 mib_cuhjfx sorry..
01:28 jcamins Sure is.
01:28 slef oooh bouncy bouncy
01:27 slef I think -a - does something. Not sure if it's relevant
01:26 mib_p1rm7k as in it shows in the logs
01:26 mib_p1rm7k it does register a connection from yaz-client
01:26 mib_p1rm7k that's the max i know
01:25 mib_p1rm7k zebrasrv is running with -v all
01:25 jcamins Yeah, that sounds like your next step, sorry. :(
01:25 slef rerun zebrasrv with the maximum logging options?
01:25 mib_p1rm7k i will have to take some time to add debugging statements and see what's happening.
01:25 jcamins mib_p1rm7k: are you sure that KOHA_CONF is set correctly?
01:25 mib_p1rm7k but i will have to check what koha is doing... maybe it is not using zebra somehow.
01:25 mib_p1rm7k no. i installed with zebra. all default options in Makefile.PL. I even checked with the install log.
01:24 slef if zebra doesn't register a connection from koha... did you install koha with nozebra and then switch it over?
01:24 slef yeah good move
01:23 slef errr which it shouldn't AFAIK because nozebra is deprecated
01:23 mib_p1rm7k hence, the efforts for zebra
01:23 jcamins It will be deleted shortly.
01:23 mib_p1rm7k ok. point taken.
01:23 jcamins Don't use nozebra. It's disastrous.
01:23 mib_p1rm7k Only that nozebra does not show me items... which is strange
01:23 mib_p1rm7k And the search works with nozebra
01:23 mib_p1rm7k it works fine.
01:22 jcamins I think you're the first one to have successfully installed it, in fact.
01:22 mib_p1rm7k Zebra does not even register a connection from koha
01:22 wahanui I know. That's why I said it.
01:22 jcamins Very true.
01:22 mib_p1rm7k Yes. But this is CentOS and koha 3.08 is not well tested here.
01:22 jcamins Usually it's Zebra being broken.
01:22 jcamins Yeah, I've never encountered that.
01:21 mib_p1rm7k hmm
01:20 slef yeah, I think you're at the adding debugging statements bit... sorry, you've found a less famous way to break it
01:20 mib_p1rm7k Same results as 'f data'
01:20 mib_p1rm7k This works too..
01:19 mib_p1rm7k What should I do next? My koha logs do not say anything... should I try and output some debugging information there?
01:19 slef try "f @attr 1=4 data"... I think
01:18 mib_p1rm7k They are basically verifying that the zebra index is built and the zebra server is running
01:18 jcamins Okay.
01:18 mib_p1rm7k I have looked at all the points in the FAQ
01:17 jcamins And you have problems in the staff client and the OPAC?
01:17 jcamins Okay, that's progress.
01:16 mib_p1rm7k zebra is reading the file right because it only accepts that password for the username.
01:16 jcamins mib_p1rm7k: ^^ that
01:16 jcamins search faq is http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/
01:16 wahanui jcamins: I forgot search faq
01:16 jcamins wahanui: forget search faq
01:16 slef it translates that I think
01:16 slef no, not to zebra
01:16 mib_p1rm7k it puts things like kw,wrdl: Data
01:16 slef :(
01:15 mib_p1rm7k 404 on that link
01:15 slef I'm pretty sure Koha puts something more complex there... looking it up now...
01:15 wahanui search faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
01:15 jcamins search faq?
01:15 jcamins And you went through this:
01:15 jcamins Hm.
01:15 mib_p1rm7k yes, that's literally "f data"
01:15 mib_p1rm7k i have checked the location and the contents of the file.
01:15 slef and that's literally "f data"?
01:14 mib_p1rm7k yes
01:14 jcamins Is that where the file that you installed is?
01:14 mib_p1rm7k s
01:14 mib_p1rm7k f data
01:14 mib_p1rm7k base biblios
01:14 mib_p1rm7k i do:
01:14 slef what query are you doing from yaz-client?
01:14 slef aha
01:13 mib_p1rm7k No separate instances here.
01:12 slef ps $(pgrep zebra) |cat # should show you what zebra thinks it is using
01:12 mib_p1rm7k That is the only one in CentOS.
01:12 mib_p1rm7k The configuration file I am using is /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
01:12 jcamins When I had problems with Zebra (a while ago), I was able to log in with any password only when I was using the wrong Zebra configuration file.
01:12 mib_p1rm7k :)
01:12 slef and try again
01:12 mib_p1rm7k agreed.
01:11 mib_p1rm7k haha
01:11 slef IT dept error: replace IT dept
01:11 mib_p1rm7k which is stupid
01:11 mib_p1rm7k but my IT dept would not give me anything other than centos
01:11 jcamins I will tell you how I reached the conclusion about the problem that I did.
01:11 mib_p1rm7k hmm... I know koha is much more happy with debian
01:11 slef meh... it should work... I've just not had to touch it for a looong time
01:10 jcamins Which is well known to work a lot better than CentOS with Zebra. :P
01:10 jcamins Of course, my troubleshooting is all based on my experiences with Debian.
01:10 mib_p1rm7k Just did.
01:09 jcamins Right. Stop it and start it again manually.
01:09 mib_p1rm7k There is no daemon program here.
01:09 mib_p1rm7k No. I am on CentOS so I have to manually start it.
01:09 jcamins Did you restart Zebra?
01:09 mib_p1rm7k I run zebrasrv as zebrasrv -v all -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
01:09 jcamins I think you'll find it's pointing to the wrong file.
01:08 jcamins mib_p1rm7k: the command line that started the Zebra daemon.
01:08 mib_p1rm7k what should i check next?
01:08 mib_p1rm7k yaz-client still works. with the username and password from koha-conf
01:07 jcamins slef: Zebra was run with the wrong config.
01:06 slef jcamins: zebra might be broken in some new and entertaining manner...
01:06 mib_p1rm7k Let me try this. yaz-client works without authentication, let me try it with the same username and password
01:06 slef jcamins: yeah, but "there's your problem" seems a bit early ;)
01:06 jcamins :P
01:06 jcamins slef: I'm helping!!!!!
01:05 slef jcamins: I like the way you clutch at those straws ;)
01:05 mib_p1rm7k Oh OK
01:05 slef retry with the details from koha-conf.xml? you'll need to say "auth user pass" to yaz-client before saying "open unix:/path/to/bibliosocket"
01:05 jcamins There's your problem. You need to have it set up with the same user/pass that is in koha-conf.xml.
01:03 mib_p1rm7k no. without user/pass
01:03 slef you're connecting with yaz-client with the user/pass from koha-conf.xml?
01:02 mib_p1rm7k I just don't get any results from koha
01:02 mib_p1rm7k There is no error message. Nothing in the logs either.
01:02 wahanui rumour has it second question is "What is the exact error message?"
01:02 slef mib_p1rm7k: second question?
01:02 mib_p1rm7k for a moment there, i got confused. :)
01:02 mib_p1rm7k haha
01:01 slef mib_p1rm7k: wahanui is a robot :)
00:59 mib_p1rm7k So... what should humans do here? :)
00:59 wahanui the problem is its human beings doing it
00:59 mib_p1rm7k What should I do to check what's the problem?
00:59 mib_p1rm7k But koha does not return any results on the same queries.
00:58 mib_p1rm7k The marc21 and xml records I get back look fine.
00:58 mib_p1rm7k My zebra server is running and I can connect to it using yaz-client
00:58 mib_p1rm7k I am running Koha 3.08 on CentOS 6.2
00:57 mib_p1rm7k Can somebody help me here with my Zebra problem
00:57 mib_p1rm7k Hello everyone!
00:24 slef bah, I've gigs of space but build-git-snapshot is crashing out with "No space left on device"... brb