Time  Nick          Message
23:51 jcamins_away  Should I set the topic back to 3.8.2?
23:50 jcamins_away  Oh, sorry.
23:42 * rangi       hasn't done release announce for 3.8.3 yet
22:38 jenkins_koha  * jcamins: Bump version for 3.6.7 release
22:38 jenkins_koha  * jcamins: Add release notes for 3.6.7 release
22:38 jenkins_koha  * f.demians: Koha 3.6.7 Translation Update
22:38 jenkins_koha  * mtompset: Bug 8489: Revise Ubuntu install files
22:38 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_3.6.x build #55: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/55/
21:59 * jcamins     releases 3.6.7.
21:52 jenkins_koha  Starting build #55 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:07 jcamins       Also note that I successfully came up with a query which returns no results but accurately corrects your spelling. It was a challenge. :)
21:06 jcamins       (notice that the first word is misspelled)
21:06 * jcamins     comes up with what may be the weirdest query fed into Google ever: szygy abolitionist capitalism synagogue runes serger anticonstitutionnellement
21:05 jcamins       Thanks.
21:03 liw           that's pretty much what I'd use
21:00 jcamins       What I come up with is (cak.|ca.e|c.ke|.ake)
20:59 jcamins       (or any other language)
20:59 jcamins       ("cake" is just an example, and I'm actually wondering about more general regular expressions, but I don't really know how to express that in English)
20:59 jcamins       liw: I'm wondering if there is a clever way to write a regular expression that expresses "match any string like 'cake' *or* where any string for which three of the letters match."
20:58 liw           I like them
20:44 jcamins       Anyone around who likes regular expressions?
20:44 jcamins       Hm.
20:33 jcamins       Remind me not to read the Zebra source.
20:10 mtj           perhaps chris_n uses an irc_proxy already, but just has a bouncy connection...
20:08 mtj           jcamins: nope - its just a helpful suggestion...
20:06 jcamins       mtj: I don't think I can forcefully install that for him. :P
20:06 jcamins       Until his connection starts working again.
20:06 mtj           http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/znc
20:06 jcamins       Just for a little while.
20:06 jcamins       Anyone with ops to ban chris_n?
20:06 mtj           chris_n: seriously needs an irc-proxy (i'm using znc)
20:05 mtj           awesome :)
20:05 jcamins       Bother. I'll have to manually upload it because I forgot to tell the script to upload it.
20:04 jcamins       I decide what should go in, and run a command that does all the automated tests I can think of, then creates the release.
20:03 mtj           and every time a new release happens, that 'clean' test db can get updated for the new release
20:03 jcamins       Incidentally, isn't it awesome that I can do that?
20:02 jcamins       I guess I'll try releasing 3.6.7 again.
20:02 jcamins       I like the idea a lot.
20:02 mtj           a sane working db, thats known to correct work correctly for all the tests, in the repo
20:01 mtj           isnt it just
20:01 jcamins       No, but that's a great idea.
20:01 mtj           that i can just 'mysql koha < clean.sql' before testing?
20:01 jcamins       Clearly that's not the case anymore.
20:01 jcamins       It's supposed to be "check all boxes when installing."
20:00 mtj           heres what i wanna know... is there a 'clean' database within the repo?
20:00 pastebot      "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "mtj: failing tests" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/48
20:00 jcamins       My old clean test database works fine.
20:00 mtj           what tests are failing for you?
19:59 jcamins       Okay, ignore that outburst.
19:59 jcamins       o.O
19:59 mtj           but, my db looks a little glitchy here (its my dev koha)
19:59 jcamins       But jenkins doesn't, and wth didn't I ever get them before?
19:58 mtj           ftw, i get some fails too , on my 3.6.6
19:57 jcamins       But these three seem to be legit.
19:56 jcamins       It failed a few others due to the wrong data set.
19:56 jcamins       prove t/db_dependent
19:56 mtj           and.. whats yr testing command? prove ./t  ?
19:55 jcamins       On both 3.6.6 and 3.6.7.
19:55 jcamins       Same problem.
19:55 jcamins       I just tried creating a completely new database.
19:55 jcamins       Serials, Reserves, VirtualShelves.
19:55 mtj           hmm , where is it failing?
19:54 jcamins       AND IT DIDN'T WORK!?!?!?
19:53 * cait        sends more chocolate
19:53 jcamins       So I decided to test 3.6.6.
19:53 jcamins       Just the Ubuntu package files and translations.
19:53 jcamins       I mean, relating to actual functionality.
19:53 jcamins       I didn't change any files relating to Koha.
19:53 jcamins       They did not fail two commits ago.
19:52 jcamins       The unit tests failed.
19:52 jcamins       Well, I just tried to release 3.6.7.
19:52 cait          thx :)
19:52 * mtj         hands cait some juice...
19:52 cait          mtj: can I get some juice?
19:52 jcamins       I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, "why would you need to? 3.6.6 was already released, and all the tests passed."
19:51 jcamins       I can't get the unit tests to pass on 3.6.6.
19:51 jcamins       I need it.
19:51 jcamins       Thanks.
19:51 * mtj         hands jcamins some chocolate...
19:51 jcamins       mtj: how about some chocolate for me?
19:50 * mtj         hands chris_n an irc-proxy...
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17:23 Brooke        doh too slow
17:22 * mtompset    waves.
17:15 mtompset      And I think a Sunday afternoon nap later today will be in order. :)
17:15 jcamins       Good night.
17:15 mtompset      Well, with that news. I am headed to bed.
17:11 mtompset      And with the release, have jumped into an LTS.
17:10 mtompset      If they were willing to use a non-LTS, they should have upgraded to 11.X by now.
17:10 jcamins       Agreed.
17:10 mtompset      YAY!
17:09 mtompset      and anyways, people shouldn't be using 10.10
17:08 jcamins       Well done. :)
17:08 jcamins       Okay, same issue before and after the patch, so it's going into 3.6.7.
17:08 jcamins       Right, I was testing the moved file as well.
17:08 mtompset      dselect doesn't use the script.
17:07 jcamins       Let me see if it always failed.
17:06 jcamins       Now the script runs but the dselect fails.
17:06 jcamins       Earlier the script wouldn't run.
17:06 jcamins       Drat.
17:05 mtompset      perhaps we can bullet proof this. ;)
17:04 mtompset      out of curiousity what was it?
17:04 jcamins       Must've been something I upgraded.
17:04 jcamins       Okay, restart fixed it.
17:04 mtompset      Really?
17:04 jcamins       mtompset: getting some problems with 10.10.
16:59 mtompset      So, hopefully that won't be a confusion for someone.
16:58 mtompset      Doesn't say (none)*
16:58 mtompset      When tracking down any "(none)" results...
16:58 mtompset      I was relooking at the INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid file.
16:57 mtompset      I think that is the only thing that could be questioned from a QA stance.
16:57 jcamins       I think the way it is makes sense.
16:57 mtompset      I was pondering if the (none)* was the best approach, or whether to leave it blank.
16:53 jcamins       Should be nearly done. :)
16:53 jcamins       I'm testing the scripts right now, actually.
16:53 mtompset      How goes the Maverick update, jcamins?
16:41 mtompset      just like the 2012 olympics only happens once... I hope Canada's athletes for the summer olympics do as well as they did for the winter ones.
16:40 mtompset      Just like the game on TV is only played live once.
16:40 mtompset      3.6.7 is only released one, Brooke. :P
16:40 libsysguy     and watching
16:39 libsysguy     its always waiting
16:39 mtompset      I'm working with jcamins on a patch for the 3.6.7 installation.
16:39 Brooke        I can assure you that Koha will be here when you wake up :)
16:39 Brooke        get some sleep then
16:39 mtompset      I hope I can wake up in time for church this morning.
16:38 mtompset      It's going late.
16:38 libsysguy     the work or the crazy
16:38 mtompset      (none)*
16:38 mtompset      The (noe)*
16:38 mtompset      The only thing that this patch does is introduce a newer, nicer behaviour. :)
16:38 Brooke        how's it going?
16:37 mtompset      Greetings AND Salutations, Brooke
16:37 Brooke        crazy like a fox!
16:37 mtompset      Feel free.
16:37 * jcamins     is testing 10.04 also, just to be sure.
16:36 mtompset      And I can confirm it is working on 10.04
16:36 libsysguy     just returning the love since you think im crazy Brooke
16:36 Brooke        wow greetings & salutations I am <3d
16:36 libsysguy     and salutations
16:35 jcamins       Greetings.
16:35 libsysguy     \o
16:35 Brooke        o/
16:34 jcamins       Okay, I can confirm it still works on 12.04.
16:30 jcamins       Right. Sounds good to me.
16:28 mtompset      And by that time, 10.04 will be so far back, we can dump 10.04 and 10.10
16:28 jcamins       Seems like a good plan to me.
16:28 jcamins       Right.
16:27 mtompset      then we copy it to the LTS version.
16:27 mtompset      So we just keep updating ubuntu.packages until we hit an LTS.
16:27 jcamins       That makes sense.
16:27 jcamins       Oh, got it.
16:26 mtompset      Because the file exists.
16:26 jcamins       If not, I'll add it.
16:26 mtompset      no.
16:26 jcamins       Does it give you that warning, too?
16:26 jcamins       10.10 is not an LTS release.
16:26 mtompset      So, when 12.10 comes out, technically, we just have to update ubuntu.packages. Same with 13.04 and 13.10
16:26 mtompset      So, when 12.10 comes out, technically, we just have to update ubuntu.packages.
16:25 mtompset      echo "WARNING! We strongly recommend an LTS release."
16:24 mtompset      If you try to run it on 11.04 or 11.10, you will get an error message about using an LTS.
16:24 jcamins       Makes sense to me.
16:24 mtompset      Maverick file existed, so I figured keep it.
16:24 jcamins       Good. I don't need to test them.
16:23 mtompset      No.
16:23 jcamins       We don't have any special files for 11.04 or 11.10, do we?
16:23 * jcamins     falls asleep waiting for Maverick to update.
16:17 mtompset      patch uploaded.
16:13 jcamins       In that case, obsolete the patch.
16:13 jcamins       Okay.
16:13 jcamins       Ah.
16:13 mtompset      I did a git-amend.
16:13 jcamins       Don't obsolete the previous one.
16:13 jcamins       Thanks.
16:12 mtompset      I believe I have a working patch... just a moment while I upload it.
16:12 mtompset      Yes it does.
16:12 mtompset      :)
16:11 jcamins       Heh. That works.
16:11 libsysguy     i just reset the VM
16:11 libsysguy     sadly no
16:11 jcamins       libsysguy: did you ever find where cpan put those files?
16:08 mtompset      number of lines difference between the packages files? 8
16:08 jcamins       Sounds about right.
16:08 mtompset      10.04 version | wc = 117
16:07 mtompset      12.04 version | wc = 125 lines
16:07 mtompset      SWEET!
16:00 mtompset      Just re-running on 12.04
15:59 jcamins       Yup. Once you upload the follow-up, I will do that. :)
15:59 mtompset      But please wait for the ubuntu-pkg-check.sh patch.
15:59 mtompset      great... can test the 10.10 file.
15:58 jcamins       Ooh, and I have a Maverick install.
15:57 jcamins       Okay, works on 12.04.
15:57 jcamins       I will squash them.
15:56 jcamins       Okay, rather than amending your commit, could you provide a follow-up to fix the problem on Maverick?
15:56 mtompset      CPAN or external repo required.
15:55 mtompset      * means there is no library.
15:55 mtompset      YAY! Good output.
15:55 mtompset      libtext-csv-encoded-perl = (none)*
15:55 mtompset      libreadonly-xs-perl = (none)
15:55 mtompset      libreadonly-perl = (none)
15:55 mtompset      libpdf-api2-simple-perl = (none)*
15:55 mtompset      libmemoize-memcached-perl = (none)*
15:55 mtompset      liblocale-currency-format-perl = (none)*
15:55 mtompset      libhttp-oai-perl = (none)*
15:55 mtompset      libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl = (none)
15:55 mtompset      libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl = (none)*
15:55 mtompset      libbusiness-isbn-perl = (none)
15:53 mtompset      of course, after you get koha installed, you want to remove it. :)
15:53 mtompset      trust me... gcc in the list is GOOD.
15:53 mtompset      for some perl libraries it is.
15:53 mtompset      it is for a make.
15:53 jcamins       Is it?
15:53 jcamins       But, gcc isn't required for cpan.
15:53 jcamins       (rhetorical question)
15:52 mtompset      Just incase they CPAN.
15:52 jcamins       Why do we require gcc?
15:51 jcamins       Ah. Yeah, that'd be nice.
15:51 mtompset      I'd like to make it a clean run.
15:51 mtompset      There are ugly error messages.
15:51 jcamins       Okay, step one is find the files.
15:50 libsysguy     i didn't see it in /usr/lib/perl5/ either
15:50 jcamins       Yeah, it'll be missing some dependencies, but if there's no regression, I'll still put the patch in.
15:50 libsysguy     but i don't think its in tehre
15:50 libsysguy     jcamins there is
15:50 mtompset      Yes, but 10.04 it needs to be tweaked.
15:49 jcamins       Once I've tested that I'll test it on 10.04.
15:49 jcamins       mtompset: it seems to be working perfectly on 12.04 for me.
15:49 jcamins       *else
15:49 jcamins       libsysguy: see if there's anything is in /usr/local/lib/perl?
15:49 libsysguy     its ok, I can just roll the VM back
15:48 libsysguy     haha
15:48 mtompset      Working on the error handling of the .sh script.
15:48 jcamins       libsysguy: well, darn.
15:48 mtompset      jcamins, doesn't quite work under 10.10
15:48 libsysguy     sudo
15:48 libsysguy     thanks drojf, I should have installed this anyway
15:48 jcamins       Okay, did you install as your user or sudo?
15:48 libsysguy     and we all know sid is evil
15:48 libsysguy     it was that or SID
15:48 drojf         libsysguy: no answer to that, but for future experiments, i found that using dh-make-perl is a really nice thing on debian.  build packages with dh-make-perl --build --cpan yourpackage. or install directly, dh-make-perl --install --cpan yourpackage
15:47 libsysguy     but i was desperate
15:47 libsysguy     i don't usually do it from cpan
15:47 libsysguy     no
15:47 jcamins       Do you have anything installed via CPAN that wasn't a bad idea?
15:47 libsysguy     guess I'll be rolling back via time machine :-/
15:47 libsysguy     yeah i don't think you can
15:47 jcamins       No idea.
15:47 jcamins       Uhhh...
15:40 libsysguy_afk is there a way to uninstall from cpan with deps
15:40 libsysguy_afk now I realize that was a bad idea
15:40 libsysguy_afk i did a cpan installed that failed…so i forced it
15:40 libsysguy_afk so I may need a spot of advice
15:37 jcamins       Possibly patch -p1
15:37 jcamins       patch -p0 < patchfile should work.
15:34 cait          sorry, I think I am probably not of much help here
15:34 cait          hmmm...
15:31 mtompset      Hmm...
15:21 mtompset      and then see if ./ubuntu-pkg-check.sh works as expected until 10.10
15:21 mtompset      take bug 8489 and actually patch a virgin tar xvf directory of koha 3.6.6
15:20 mtompset      I found a web page that says patch -p0 < patchfile
15:20 cait          not sure what you are trying to do?
15:19 mtompset      yuck.
15:19 cait          copy and paste?
15:18 mtompset      Do you know of a way to install a patch on a non-git directory?
15:18 cait          home!
15:18 cait          hi again :)
15:17 mtompset      Greetings, cait
15:12 mtompset      is there a way to install a patch on a non-git?
15:10 jcamins       Bah, humbug. I don't think I have a 10.04 install anywhere.
15:10 jcamins       I just have to test that it actually works. :P
15:10 mtompset      but with it... I think we'll have a super-sweet install.
15:09 jcamins       Right.
15:08 mtompset      well, it will install, but with more hassle. :)
15:08 jcamins       Since 8489 is needed to get Koha 3.6.7 to install on Ubuntu, that's kind of a big deal.
15:08 jcamins       It is just a warning, so it would be better not to put it in a stable branch prior to master.
15:07 jcamins       Bug 8487 will wait for 3.6.8.
15:06 mtompset      I suspect it is cross version-al.
15:06 mtompset      8487 fixes PerlDependencies.pm
15:05 mtompset      http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8487
15:05 mtompset      True, so basically, bug 8487 and 8489 are my labour of love this evening.
15:02 jcamins       mtompset: with the packages goodness only knows how out of date, it'd be hard to test whether the new packages list actually works.
15:02 * mtompset    laughs and cries.
15:01 jcamins       326 packages to upgrade.
15:00 * jcamins     sighs. Should've checked how out of date the install was a while ago.
14:55 jcamins       I can tell because it drives me batty.
14:55 jcamins       The other one is definitely 12.04, though.
14:55 druthb        Lol  tease.
14:54 jcamins       Drat.
14:54 jcamins       Wait, just kidding. This is not Lucid.
14:54 jcamins       Isn't it nice that I have both a lucid and a 12.04 install hanging around? :)
14:54 mtompset      we're currently on 3.6.3
14:53 mtompset      We hope to upgrade our library from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS 3.6.7 in the near future.
14:53 mtompset      As is mine.
14:53 jcamins       But my priority is 3.6.x. :)
14:53 mtompset      but since I was too slow for 3.8.3, it will have to wait until 3.8.4
14:53 jcamins       Also for master.
14:53 jcamins       I'm sure there will be.
14:52 mtompset      I should check to see if there are similar changes that need to be made for 3.8.X
14:52 mtompset      Yes.
14:52 jcamins       mtompset: thanks. Those are for 3.6.x, both of them?
14:51 mtompset      I'll stay up for another 40 minutes or so, just so you can let me know if there are problems with the patches, jcamins.
14:50 mtompset      http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8489
14:50 mtompset      oh right. huggin's is down.
14:49 mtompset      bug 8489
14:49 mtompset      The diff looks right on bugzilla.
14:49 mtompset      anyways... I think I got it gone correctly.
14:46 cait-m__      uncomment att. you want to obsolete
14:46 cait-m__      ...
14:46 cait-m__      git bz attach -e
14:45 cait-m__      -e
14:44 mtompset      How do i replace an attachment on bugzilla?
14:43 mtompset      there much better... re-attaching.
14:36 jcamins       That will amend your previous commit.
14:36 jcamins       Best thing to do, edit the file again, make the changes, do a git add, then do git commit --amend
14:36 jcamins       Yes, you can.
14:36 libsysguy_afk i think you can do that…jcamins correct me if im wrong
14:35 mtompset      - -?
14:35 libsysguy_afk if you are just adding that
14:34 libsysguy_afk well yes, but i would suggest just doing git commit —amend
14:34 jcamins       Right.
14:34 mtompset      So if I do a 'git reset HEAD^' it takes me back just before the last commit, correct?
14:33 mtompset      nevermind.
14:33 mtompset      got forgot to include an echo $UBUNTU_PACKAGES
14:32 mtompset      oh well....
14:17 mtompset      okay... now to attach the patch!
14:06 jcamins       Looks good to me.
14:06 mtompset      I think it looks right.
14:06 mtompset      #       modified:   ubuntu.packages
14:06 mtompset      #       new file:   ubuntu.12.04.packages
14:06 mtompset      #       renamed:    ubuntu_maverick.packages -> ubuntu.10.10.packages
14:06 mtompset      #       new file:   ubuntu.10.04.packages
14:06 mtompset      #       modified:   ubuntu-pkg-check.sh
14:06 * libsysguy   crosses fingers
14:05 mtompset      I think I have it... let's try again.
14:03 jcamins       Exactly. :)
14:02 mtompset      just cp and then git add?
14:02 jcamins       For copy you just do cp file1 file2 && git add file2
14:02 jcamins       Actually, no.
14:02 mtompset      I assume there is a git cp?
13:58 mtompset      git diff origin/3.6.x
13:58 libsysguy     then its git diff fileA fileB
13:58 mtompset      ah there it is....
13:58 libsysguy     unless you want changes betweent 2 files
13:58 libsysguy     git log will
13:58 mtompset      shouldn't a git diff list all the changes?
13:56 libsysguy     yeah you can do that
13:56 jcamins       Yeah, that should do it.
13:55 mtompset      mv it back, and then git mv?
13:55 mtompset      the git mv won't work.
13:55 mtompset      Okay, but the problem now is...
13:54 libsysguy     if all you did was move operations
13:53 libsysguy     should take you back one commit
13:53 libsysguy     git reset HEAD^
13:52 mtompset      Yes, but I already commited the other files.
13:52 libsysguy     you just won't be able to tab out for completion
13:52 libsysguy     well you can still run those commands
13:52 libsysguy     any file operation you can do from the shell just append a git in front
13:52 mtompset      okay, this sucks...
13:52 libsysguy     git mv
13:52 jcamins       No, for move you do git mv
13:52 mtompset      should have I done something other than mv?
13:51 libsysguy     with mv?
13:51 mtompset      but I renamed it.
13:51 jcamins       mtompset: you need to do git rm filename
13:50 libsysguy     mtompset: geez man you're still on
13:49 mtompset      Why didn't my file delete commit?
13:49 mtompset      jacmins?
13:38 mtompset      Working on commit.
13:26 jcamins       *committing
13:26 jcamins       If you run git add again, it will just stage the newest version for commiting.
13:25 mtompset      do I git add it again, and what does that mean for the commit?
13:25 mtompset      if I git add'd a file, then decide to change it.
13:20 mtompset      Okay.
13:20 jcamins       Yeah.
13:20 mtompset      So duplicate file?
13:19 jcamins       Or git.
13:19 jcamins       Hm. I don't think we can do softlinks in a tgz.
13:18 mtompset      I was looking at the INSTALL.ubuntu instructions and they reference ubuntu.packages.
13:18 mtompset      question: are softlinks possible?
12:59 mtompset      I'm going to bug report this and provide patches now.
12:57 mtompset      I removed that -dev version of libmysqlclient from the 12.04 packages file.
12:56 mtompset      so I guess I just don't have it installed.
12:56 mtompset      well, it does exist.
12:55 jcamins       But you can take out the direct dependency on libmysqlclient.
12:55 jcamins       I don't know, we might need libyaz4-dev.
12:53 mtompset      We also have a libyaz4-dev
12:51 mtompset      should I correct the file?
12:51 mtompset      I only see libmysqlclient18 as a dependency.
12:51 mtompset      Yes, based on the ubuntu.packages mess I made, and the libraries in the my script...
12:49 mtompset      libdbd-mysql-perl is dep. on 18
12:48 mtompset      Just doing a mass list... checking.
12:44 jcamins       We use Perl not C. :P
12:44 jcamins       I don't think the headers are required at all, was my point.
12:43 mtompset      perhaps they changed their packaging philosophy.
12:43 mtompset      if I list what is in the dev version of 16, and see if the 18 version includes the headers too.
12:43 mtompset      that gives me an idea.
12:43 mtompset      hmmm...
12:42 mtompset      yes, that is where headers are.
12:42 jcamins       -dev is for headers, I think.
12:42 jcamins       Someone not understanding what -dev meant.
12:41 mtompset      Where did the -dev part come from?
12:41 mtompset      not the -dev.
12:40 mtompset      nice.
12:39 jcamins       apt-cache showpkg libdbd-mysql-perl
12:39 mtompset      how? I'm new to this gig. :)
12:38 jcamins       I think that will depend on libmysqlclient if it is required.
12:38 jcamins       Take a look at libdbd-mysql-perl and see what it depends on.
12:38 jcamins       I don't think that's a valid dependency.
12:38 mtompset      libmysqlclient16 doesn't exist on 12.04, but libmysqlclient18 does.
12:37 jcamins       Uhhh...
12:37 mtompset      libmysqlclient16-dev doesn't exist on 12.04
12:35 mtompset      libmysqlclient
12:35 mtompset      oh sucky!
12:33 mtompset      Make my life easy for our libraries impending upgrade. :)
12:33 mtompset      I want 3.6.7 to purr like a kitten.
12:30 jcamins       :)
12:30 cait          mtompset++ :)
12:30 cait          finished translations early this time - hope no bugs in the files
12:29 cait          I almost forgot about it
12:29 cait          ah
12:29 mtompset      I'm working madly at fixing ubuntu-pkg-chk.sh right now
12:29 jcamins       I'm writing proposals, and at some point I'll release 3.6.7.
12:29 cait          :)
12:29 cait          oh nice
12:29 jcamins       cait: mtompset is working on Ubuntu installation issues.
12:28 cait          what are you 2 working on?
12:18 jcamins       The package list for Pangolin should work fine, actually.
12:18 mtompset      which file should I default to?
12:18 jcamins       LTS releases are the ones that matter.
12:18 mtompset      What if someone tries them?
12:18 jcamins       Ignore 'em.
12:18 mtompset      What should we do about 11.04 and 11.10?
12:10 mtompset      https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
12:09 mtompset      yep, 10.10
12:08 jcamins       No, Maverick must have been 10.10?
12:07 jcamins       I don't know. I think it was 11.10?
12:07 mtompset      I hate naming conventions.
12:07 mtompset      maverick was 11, right?
12:06 jcamins       git -m oldbranch newbranch
12:06 mtompset      rename a branch?
12:05 mtompset      true.
12:05 jcamins       While git can often automatically merge patches, you'll be pretty frustrated when you have to rewrite a patch from scratch.
12:05 mtompset      Given my patches aim to be small, I'm not so worried...
12:04 jcamins       You should generally assume you *will* have to rebase any given patch.
12:04 jcamins       Right, that's what rebasing is for.
12:03 mtompset      only if the files in the patch have changed would it be unpleasant, though, right?
12:02 jcamins       If you need to rebase, and all you have is the patch file, it can be really unpleasant.
12:02 jcamins       You should keep branches until the patches have been integrated into master.
12:02 mtompset      I try to avoid keeping bug branches after submitting patches. :P
12:01 jcamins       Remember, eythian and I both avoid having a branch called "master".
12:01 jcamins       No, if you have your own master branch, you need to do `git checkout master`
12:01 mtompset      which should be the same ver as origin?
12:00 mtompset      would git checkout origin/master go back to my master?
12:00 mtompset      Hmmm...
12:00 mtompset      ...
12:00 mtompset      I know this is overkill, but would
12:00 jcamins       (or git checkout -b newbug origin/master, if you're going to work on a new bug right off)
11:59 jcamins       git checkout origin/master
11:59 mtompset      that's not 3.6.X?
11:59 mtompset      how do I get back to master?
11:59 mtompset      I branch off, do this bug fix.
11:59 mtompset      okay... next question.
11:58 jcamins       That won't go into 3.6.7, I don't think, but it should definitely be done.
11:58 jcamins       That'd be great.
11:57 mtompset      would you like me to clean that up too as another bug?
11:57 jcamins       Makes sense to me.
11:56 mtompset      I'm thinking `lsb_release -r` used to choose the right ubuntu packages file would be better.
11:51 mtompset      Hmm... ubuntu-pkg-check.sh is hardcoded to ubuntu.packages.
11:46 jcamins       3.6.7.
11:46 jcamins       Right.
11:46 mtompset      3.6.7 is already out?
11:43 jcamins       I will test that, and, if it works, include it in 3.6.8.
11:43 jcamins       Seems to be.
11:43 mtompset      Is huggin offline?
11:43 jcamins       Thanks.
11:43 mtompset      bug 8488
11:32 mtompset      bug 8488 written... now to attach patch.
11:24 jcamins       Thanks.
11:23 mtompset      Now to bug report it, and attach the patch.
11:23 mtompset      changed 3 to 4 for yaz, and added those missing ones.
11:22 mtompset      okay... I think I got it.
11:15 * mtompset    nods.
11:15 mtompset      I am thinking, I'll create a Precise one.
11:15 jcamins       Maybe necessary?
11:14 jcamins       Oh boy. tcohen's proposal was to have a file for Lucid and a file for Precise.
11:14 mtompset      ls
11:14 mtompset      Ubuntu 12.04 has yaz4, not 3.
11:13 jcamins       Add the correct one.
11:11 mtompset      What is your suggestion for the modern-perl? add it, and leave the old one?
11:09 mtompset      libmodern-perl-perl has Modern::Perl.
11:09 mtompset      libmodern-perl-perl: /usr/share/perl5/Modern/Perl.pm
11:09 mtompset      libmodern-perl-perl: /usr/share/man/man3/Modern::Perl.3pm.gz
11:09 mtompset      libmodern-perl-perl: /usr/share/doc/libmodern-perl-perl/copyright
11:09 mtompset      libmodern-perl-perl: /usr/share/doc/libmodern-perl-perl/changelog.gz
11:09 mtompset      libmodern-perl-perl: /usr/share/doc/libmodern-perl-perl/changelog.Debian.gz
11:09 mtompset      libmodern-perl-perl: /usr/share/doc/libmodern-perl-perl/README
11:09 mtompset      libmodern-perl: /usr/share/doc/libmodern-perl/copyright
11:09 mtompset      libmodern-perl: /usr/share/doc/libmodern-perl/changelog.gz
11:09 mtompset      libmodern-perl: /usr/share/doc/libmodern-perl/changelog.Debian.gz
11:09 mtompset      koha@KohaGit:~/kohaclone/install_misc$ apt-file list libmodern-perl
11:08 mtompset      ah... libmodern-perl is the wrong library to install.
11:08 mtompset      didn't say my script was perfect, but it does give some clues where to look.
11:07 mtompset      I'm going to apt-file list to look at them.
11:06 jcamins       Is one universe and one supported?
11:06 jcamins       Uhhh...
11:06 mtompset      hmmm... there is a libmodern-perl and a libmodern-perl-perl?
11:04 mtompset      That was the first test. :)
11:04 jcamins       Yay!
11:04 mtompset      Yes.
11:04 jcamins       Are they all in 12.04?
11:04 jcamins       That's a lot.
11:04 jcamins       Really? Oh boy.
11:03 mtompset      I believe these are missing.
11:03 mtompset      < libxml-sax-perl
11:03 mtompset      < libwww-perl
11:03 mtompset      < liburi-perl
11:03 mtompset      < libtext-csv-xs-perl
11:03 mtompset      < libmodern-perl-perl
11:03 mtompset      < libjson-perl
11:03 mtompset      < libhttp-message-perl
11:03 mtompset      < libhttp-cookies-perl
11:03 mtompset      < libclass-accessor-perl
11:00 mtompset      The apt-file dump part of my script is sooooo slow. :)
10:57 jcamins       Right.
10:57 mtompset      I won't try to figure out which ones to remove.
10:57 mtompset      If not, I will just add what is not there.
10:57 mtompset      Working on second test: are all the libraries listed in ubuntu.packages
10:53 jcamins       :D :D
10:52 mtompset      first test: all librarys are available in Ubuntu 12.04 for 3.6.X :)
10:51 jcamins       Good morning. :)
10:51 cait          hi mtompset
10:51 jcamins       Never heard of those, nor seen them, so I guess my clients don't use them.
10:50 cait          hi #koha
10:50 mtompset      Greetings, cait
10:50 mtompset      There are documented security issues with widgets.
10:50 mtompset      http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/kill-those-vista-and-win7-gadgets-now/
10:50 jcamins       Uhhh... my clients use Windows.
10:49 mtompset      do you interact with windows machines at all?
10:48 mtompset      running my script now.
10:48 jcamins       Right.
10:48 mtompset      right?
10:48 mtompset      I'm assuming that means all the files in my git directory are the 3.6.X versions
10:48 mtompset      Okay, checkout done.
10:46 mtompset      It's still working on the checkout for 3.6.x
10:46 jcamins       Oh good.
10:46 mtompset      No, master.
10:45 jcamins       You're getting that on 3.6.x?
10:45 mtompset      Ubuntu 12.04 master.
10:45 mtompset      Template::Plugin::HtmlToText NOT FOUND!
10:45 mtompset      Data::Paginator NOT FOUND!
10:45 mtompset      Data::Pagination NOT FOUND!
10:44 mtompset      It would install several X dependencies, yes.
10:44 mtompset      and something about drupal using xpm, and koha using noxpm at one point in time.
10:44 jcamins       I think -xpm installs X.
10:44 jcamins       Hm.
10:44 mtompset      in koha.
10:44 mtompset      I was seeing the the xpm version was used in 2009.
10:43 jcamins       :P
10:43 jcamins       Choose the one that won't install all of X.
10:43 jcamins       noxpm is to be preferred.
10:43 mtompset      how do I decide which one is the one I should suggest in my script?
10:42 mtompset      xpm or noxpm
10:42 mtompset      One thing that came up was GD related.
10:42 mtompset      I made a few more tweaks to the script.
10:40 mtompset      whatever sounds like a good name, until I see if there is a bug I'd like to report. :)
10:40 jcamins       git checkout -b bug_whatever origin/3.6.x
10:39 mtompset      what is the git command to get a 3.6 branch in my dev system?
10:38 jcamins       If you hadn't asked just now it would be, but you did, so you can check. ;)
10:38 jcamins       It is not.
10:36 mtompset      for 3.6.7?
10:36 mtompset      okay... is it too late to check if ubuntu.packages needs updating?
10:35 mtompset      Only really matters if you run the db_dependent tests.
10:33 mtompset      Oh well.
10:30 jcamins       mtompset: too late for 3.8.3.
09:54 jenkins_koha  * dcook: Bug 8422 - Fix impossible warning in circulation.pl when OverduesBlockCirc set to Block
09:54 jenkins_koha  * nengard: Bug 8351: Update wording on staged marc
09:54 jenkins_koha  * chrish: bug 8322 removing additional spaces before fullstop on catalogue/detail and opac-detail pages.
09:54 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_3.8.x build #100: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/100/
09:51 mtompset      Only applies to 3.8.X and up. 3.6.X doesn't have the problem.
09:06 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8487 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , C4::Installer::PerlDependencies needs Test::Strict hash corrected
09:06 mtompset      I know it is pushing it, but I thought I'd point out a tiny bug I found: bug 8487
09:05 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
08:51 jenkins_koha  Starting build #100 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:51 cait          a
07:51 cait          morning #koh
07:33 mtompset      Now, I apologize for being unable to assist you. Please excuse me, and do come back during the week when someone who is more familiar with the importing processes can help you.
07:32 NehaSharma    what is SOPAC2?
07:30 mtompset      That's a valid, but totally unrelated section name.
07:30 mtompset      7. Installation of SOPAC2
07:30 NehaSharma    means ?
07:29 mtompset      Then tell me a valid section name.
07:29 NehaSharma    sure sir i read it
07:28 mtompset      I don't think you've read the documentation.
07:28 mtompset      There are no such sections.
07:27 NehaSharma    add books & imports book
07:27 mtompset      What part don't you understand?
07:27 NehaSharma    i read all documentation but not understanding about this
07:26 wahanui       mtompset: I forgot it
07:26 mtompset      wahanui forget it
07:25 wahanui       or the "weekend". You are more likely to have success finding someone during the week.
07:25 mtompset      it?
07:25 wahanui       okay, mtompset.
07:25 mtompset      It is also the "weekend". You are more likely to have success finding someone during the week.
07:24 mtompset      As I am not a user of koha (I've never done data entry, or data imports), I can't help much beyond this.
07:23 mtompset      Books are items.
07:23 mtompset      I suggested looking at the documentation.
07:23 wahanui       http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/ is the whole manual
07:23 mtompset      http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/
07:23 mtompset      Rina was here asking the same thing.
07:22 NehaSharma    yes u know them?
07:22 mtompset      Do you work with Rina?
07:22 NehaSharma    3.06.05.000
07:21 wahanui       i guess third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/find-version-koha-running/
07:21 mtompset      third question?
07:21 mtompset      N/A...
07:21 wahanui       well, second question is "What is the exact error message?"
07:21 mtompset      second question?
07:20 mtompset      okay.
07:20 mtompset      -- items.
07:20 NehaSharma    facing import the books
07:20 NehaSharma    ok
07:19 mtompset      Because perhaps I can point you to a URL with information that can.
07:19 NehaSharma    u r not user then how can help me?
07:18 NehaSharma    thx
07:18 wahanui       "What are you trying to do?"  "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
07:18 mtompset      first question?
07:18 mtompset      I'm not a user... I fix bugs when they appear, so I may not be able to help you.
07:18 NehaSharma    what?
07:18 mtompset      Not really?
07:17 NehaSharma    any body koha user there?
07:17 NehaSharma    hello every one
06:48 mtompset      Does anyone have any ideas on how to decide between xpm and noxpm versions of a library?\
05:54 Rina          ok
05:54 mtompset      I'm not a librarian, so I am not familiar with the process exactly. However, if you understand the terminology (like item is more than just a book, but can include CD's, Video's, etc.), then the documentation should be sufficient.
05:53 Rina          ??
05:53 Rina          just tell me import the book
05:53 mtompset      Excuse me, but I'm going to fix a couple bugs. Have a good day.
05:52 mtompset      No such section. Rina, I don't think you have read the link I gave you.
05:52 Rina          ??
05:51 Rina          adding book
05:51 Rina          books import
05:50 Rina          boos import
05:50 mtompset      What part don't you understand?
05:49 Rina          i read lof of time but not understanding
05:49 mtompset      This should give you some clues as to why you are having your difficulties.
05:49 mtompset      Anyways... I would recommend reading the manual: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/
05:48 Rina          ?
05:48 Rina          sorry
05:48 Rina          my mistake
05:47 mtompset      Ah, okay. Why did you say 3.26?
05:47 Rina          this version i m using now
05:47 Rina          3.06.05.000
05:46 Rina          how can see?
05:46 Rina          i Do:t know
05:46 Rina          i Do:t know?
05:45 mtompset      Do you know which kind? Debian?
05:45 Rina          mto ?
05:44 Rina          linex
05:44 mtompset      Are you running this under Linux or Windows?
05:43 mtompset      Rina, you are several versions behind.
05:42 Rina          hi any body there?
05:42 Rina          I m using 3.26 version
05:41 Rina          hi
05:39 mtompset      I guess people don't run -a very often.
05:39 mtompset      Shoot... exists in master.
05:39 mtompset      [Sat Jul 21 13:36:33 2012] koha_perl_deps.pl: Use of uninitialized value in formline at ./koha_perl_deps.pl line 65, <DATA> line 522.
05:37 wahanui       libsysguy: I forgot wait
05:37 libsysguy     wahanui forget wait
05:37 wahanui       wait is it snowing in marseille?
05:37 rina          wait?
05:36 mtompset      What version of koha are you using?
05:36 wahanui       documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
05:36 mtompset      documentation?
05:36 mtompset      Let me see if I can find a documentation link.
05:36 mtompset      There are multiple ways to add a book.
05:36 rina          k
05:35 mtompset      Slow down. You have asked TWO questions.
05:35 mtompset      http://people.oregonstate.edu/~reeset/marcedit/html/index.php
05:35 rina          how can add book with koha?
05:35 mtompset      Under Windows, which I work in. There is a program I use called MarcEdit.
05:34 mtompset      http://www.loc.gov/marc/
05:34 rina          .mrc format?
05:34 mtompset      that's so helpful, silly bot.
05:34 wahanui       marc is the standard that isn't
05:34 mtompset      marc?
05:34 rina          yes
05:33 mtompset      did you mean success when you said 'sussese'?
05:33 rina          marc format?
05:33 rina          what is the marc file?
05:32 rina          i want add book with koha but not sussese
05:31 wahanui       "What are you trying to do?"  "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
05:31 mtompset      first question?
05:31 mtompset      can? don't know. will try? perhaps. :)
05:31 rina          can anybody help me?
05:30 rina          yes
05:30 wahanui       mtompset?
05:30 mtompset      wahanui?
05:30 mtompset      wahanui is a bot.
05:29 rina          r u user?
05:29 wahanui       hi, rina
05:29 rina          hi
05:29 wahanui       hey, rina
05:29 rina          hi
05:28 wahanui       irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
05:28 mtompset      irc logs?
05:27 mtompset      That's not good.
05:27 mtompset      [Sat Jul 21 13:25:17 2012] koha_perl_deps.pl: Use of uninitialized value in formline at ./koha_perl_deps.pl line 65, <DATA> line 522.
05:24 mtompset      Thar she be!
05:24 Oak           Ahoy me hearties !
05:24 Oak           :)
05:24 mtompset      Greetings, Oak. You lost your pirate greeting. :(
05:23 Oak           hello mtompset
05:23 Oak           yes
05:23 mtompset      Greetings, Oak. Are you really there?
05:13 mtompset      I have to remember to power down and not reset.
05:12 mtompset      Triggered by VirtualBox doing a Reset call on a VM.
05:12 mtompset      yep.
05:07 libsysguy     BSOD?
05:06 mtompset      Now that was a fun crash. :(
05:00 * libsysguy   is determined to get authentication working before he goes to bed
04:56 Oak           wrong window
04:56 Oak           ls
04:55 libsysguy     what are you trying to make git do mtompset
04:46 wahanui       mtompset is a human being in the Philippines, and is having musical flashbacks.
04:46 libsysguy     hey mtompset
04:46 mtompset      Greetings, libsysguy
04:16 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
03:34 libsysguy     later
03:34 drojf         see you
03:34 drojf         hope you solve the problem in your sleep ;)
03:33 libsysguy     good talking with you drojf
03:33 drojf         bright daylight now. i'll try to sleep. good luck with the monk
03:33 libsysguy     alright im off for the night…this will have to wait for another day
03:32 libsysguy     so…no probably not
03:32 libsysguy     haha only 40 oz
03:32 libsysguy     yeah the porting project I am working on
03:31 drojf         are you sure it was enough beer? :P
03:31 drojf         a problem that beer could not solve? ouch
03:31 drojf         i should have had a little beer time too. but now it's 5:30am so i won't start
03:31 libsysguy     sadly it didn't help me solve my problem
03:31 * libsysguy   just had a little beer time :p
03:31 drojf         or both :)
03:30 libsysguy     or beer time
03:30 drojf         isn't it like afternoon in nz right now? he will probably have some family weekend time
03:28 libsysguy     but sadly the monk sleeps :p
03:28 libsysguy     i wish he had some words of wisdom for the project im working on
03:27 drojf         heh
03:21 libsysguy     he is like a wise monk
03:21 libsysguy     rangi has a way of doing that kind of thing
03:18 drojf         rangi++ # for making me do the module thing with my patch. i learned a lot of little things on the way
03:16 drojf         who rules over bugzilla? i could use the keyword "sandboxtest" that was agreed on in the last irc meeting
03:01 * drojf       leaves a wasteland of obsoleted patches behind. too tired