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23:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8133 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , hourly loans doesn't know when library closed
23:28 bag bug 8133
23:18 * Oak goes to sleep
23:18 Oak kia ora #koha
22:40 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: 3.8.3 Release notes
22:40 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bunping db version for release
22:40 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Koha 3.8.3 Translation Update
22:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #99: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/99/
21:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #99 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:31 rangi fredericd++
20:17 oleonard Bye #koha, have a good weekend
19:44 * wizzyrea is teasing
19:44 * wizzyrea makes a habit of forcing square pegs into round holes
19:44 wizzyrea or you have an iron fisted control over what happens at every branch in your system.
19:40 oleonard Shelving location really ought to be branch-specific.
19:20 * wizzyrea is very jealous that oleonard has rhinestones falling from the sky
19:19 jcamins Though, just a warning, 505 is pretty gosh darn hideous.
19:19 wizzyrea no, not that.
19:19 oleonard Right, but it's not ravioli
19:19 wizzyrea rhododendrons?
19:19 wizzyrea rrrr...
19:19 wizzyrea r...
19:19 wizzyrea it's moist
19:19 wizzyrea oh um...
19:18 oleonard Hey wizzyrea, that stuff is falling from the sky again. You know, the... whatsit.
19:18 jcamins 505.
19:18 wizzyrea so i'd even rather them not be links
19:18 jcamins Okay...
19:18 wizzyrea in fact, clicking them is ERROR ERROR
19:18 jcamins (i.e. authority controlled)
19:18 wizzyrea oh they don't need to be live links
19:18 jcamins But I'd use 690 so that they'd be live links.
19:18 wizzyrea :P
19:18 jcamins I know.
19:17 wizzyrea it's a bout making it look pretty.
19:17 jcamins You know what, forget the 690 suggestion.
19:17 wizzyrea oh it's not about authority control
19:17 jcamins Except in order to have these authority controlled they'd have to be formatted not like that.
19:17 jcamins Then make Koha put the tag number in the class and, bingo, easy to format.
19:17 wizzyrea how does it display?
19:16 jcamins That's what I'd do.
19:16 wizzyrea 690 you say
19:16 jcamins You want them to be controlled headings.
19:16 jcamins I would use 690.
19:16 wizzyrea is a bit of a display nightmare
19:16 wizzyrea hehehe
19:16 wizzyrea trying to find a place besides subjects to put all that stuf fin
19:15 * jcamins runs around and shouts "I'm helping!"
19:15 wizzyrea http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=243386
19:15 huginn jcamins: Statement of responsibility (Repeatable)
19:15 jcamins @marc 505 r
19:15 huginn jcamins: Title (Repeatable)
19:15 jcamins @marc 505 t
19:15 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
19:15 huginn jcamins: Formatted contents note The format of the note is determined by the relevant cataloging rules.
19:15 jcamins @marc 505 a
19:15 wizzyrea hrmph.
19:15 huginn wizzyrea: unknown tag 505$a
19:15 wizzyrea @marc 505$a
19:15 huginn wizzyrea: unknown tag 505a
19:15 wizzyrea @marc 505a
19:15 jcamins wizzyrea: the note looks lik "Bound with: book / author."
19:14 huginn wizzyrea: The titles of separate works or parts of an item or the table of contents. The field may also contain statements of responsibility and volume numbers or other sequential designations. (Repeatable) [a,g,r,t,u,6,8]
19:14 wizzyrea @marc 505
19:14 wizzyrea hrm
19:14 martian523 =)
19:14 martian523 thanks, everything works now
19:14 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
19:14 huginn wizzyrea: A note that is used when more than one bibliographic work is contained in a physical item at the time of publishing, release, issue, or execution. The works usually have distinctive titles and lack a collective title. (Repeatable) [a,5,6,8]
19:14 wizzyrea @marc 501
19:09 martian523 ok, thanks, i'll try
19:06 oleonard martian523: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/patronpermissions.html
19:05 oleonard martian523: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/patrons.html#addnewpatron
19:05 oleonard The kohaadmin user is not meant to be used except to set up the main admin user
19:04 jcamins *now, not well
19:04 jcamins martian523: you can do almost everything you can do well, and you'll be able to get help.
19:04 oleonard Yes, because you can do it without random bugs related to using the kohaadmin user
19:04 martian523 by creating a new patron of "superlibrarian", i can do more than what i can do now?
19:03 oleonard Did you create a new patron?
19:03 martian523 i'm in kohaadmin at this point
19:03 martian523 how do you set up the superlibrarian privileges?
19:02 oleonard Sound doable martian523 ?
18:57 oleonard No IT ppl required
18:57 oleonard martian523: That just means a new patron in Koha with "superlibrarian" privileges
18:57 martian523 let me ask the IT ppl
18:56 martian523 wow
18:56 martian523 superlibrarian user account?
18:55 oleonard martian523: There's no point in investigating this bug further until you test with a regular account
18:55 oleonard Using kohaadmin is likely to lead to random errors
18:55 jcamins Morthland: agreed.
18:54 oleonard martian523: You should always create a new superlibrarian user account to use instead of kohaadmin
18:54 Morthland I figured. Always best to check, though.
18:54 jcamins Morthland: nope.
18:54 jcamins That's probably your problem.
18:54 Morthland Because of all my issues with importing my records, my biblio numbers start at 6121. That isn't a problem, is it?
18:53 martian523 yep
18:53 jcamins martian523: are you logged in as the kohaadmin user?
18:53 martian523 i'm running 3.8.1
18:52 oleonard I don't see this problem in Bywater's Koha demo which is running 3.8.0
18:52 martian523 to the previous page
18:52 martian523 redirected back to add new list
18:51 martian523 nope
18:51 oleonard martian523: After you create a new list, are you redirected to a page where you can add a new title to the list by barcode?
18:50 martian523 yes
18:50 martian523 access everything right?
18:50 jcamins Staff client = the interface that staff use.
18:50 martian523 staff client in master = admin, correct?
18:49 martian523 am i doing something wrong?
18:49 oleonard I don't have any trouble creating a new list in the staff client in master.
18:47 martian523 admin
18:39 oleonard Staff client martian523 ?
18:38 martian523 created a new list, saved, and doesn't appear in lists
18:38 martian523 I clicked on that, clicked new list
18:37 martian523 and there's a "Lists"
18:37 martian523 i'm using 3.8.1
18:36 mtompset I'm going to bed.
18:36 mtompset Well, it is 2:34AM here.
18:35 oleonard Thanks jcamins
18:33 oleonard and remind me what version you're on
18:33 oleonard It should martian523. Where and how are you creating the list?
18:33 martian523 does the lists function not work?
18:33 martian523 the list i created doesn't show up after i saved it
18:32 jcamins Yeah, needs to be ,phr IMO.
18:32 martian523 have another question about "lists"
18:32 martian523 i'm back, sorry
18:32 mtompset I forgot to put some credit in my script to eythian? for the grep.
18:32 jcamins Looking now.
18:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8360 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , Author facet not working
18:31 oleonard jcamins: Could you comment on Bug 8360? Seems like something your expertise might help with
18:31 mtompset I sent an email. I suppose you got it. :)
18:30 jcamins Thanks.
18:30 mtompset It may be rejected. :P
18:28 tcohen now I leave :-P
18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8485 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Make koha_perl_deps.pl batch friendly
18:28 tcohen Bug 8485
18:26 jcamins jcamins at cpbibliography.com
18:26 jcamins mtompset: yes please!
18:25 mtompset While I'm sending my script, would you like a glimpse too, jcamins?
18:24 mtompset oh, okay.
18:24 jcamins mtompset: Gmail ignores dots.
18:23 mtompset no dot?
18:23 mtompset Thank you. You too.
18:23 tcohen bye everyone, have a nice weekend
18:21 tcohen nope, looks like quassel doesn't handle it
18:21 mtompset You didn't get the DCC SEND?
18:20 tcohen mtompset: email me at tomascohen gmail?
18:20 mtompset That's my script rough draft.
18:19 jcamins Just thought I'd let you know that this is pretty much the only patch I'd accept for 3.6.7 at this point.
18:18 jcamins If no one has time to do it in the next day, it'll keep until 3.6.8. :)
18:17 jcamins Send the message to patches@lists.koha-community.org
18:17 mtompset Maybe in 24 hours.
18:17 jcamins git send-email -1
18:17 jcamins (add description)
18:17 jcamins git commit
18:17 jcamins git add ubuntu.packages
18:17 jcamins Make any necessary changes to ubuntu.packages
18:17 tcohen i'm finishing writing the INSTALL.ubuntu.precise file
18:17 jcamins mtompset: git checkout origin/3.6.x
18:16 tcohen but i'd like to have it ready for 3.6.7!
18:16 mtompset how do I do this?
18:16 tcohen jcamins, unfortunately i'm leaving in 10''
18:15 * jcamins didn't know that.
18:15 jcamins You can transfer files over IRC?
18:15 tcohen yeap
18:15 mtompset Do you have a capable IRC client, tcohen?
18:15 jcamins If someone would like to submit a patch for ubuntu.packages for 3.6.7 (if there any missing), I will accept it.
18:14 mtompset Let's see.. I've never tried transferring a file via IRC in the last few decades.
18:13 tcohen and the package list
18:13 tcohen it could serve for maintaining the docs
18:13 mtompset It's easier to bash onto it, than modify something that I haven't had time to understand.
18:13 tcohen i'd like to take a look at it
18:13 tcohen and also that useful script you're doing
18:12 tcohen i'd add a switch to koha_perl_deps
18:12 mtompset Would you like to see my rough draft?
18:11 mtompset That's why I am writing the script.
18:11 mtompset ... I'll stop
18:11 wahanui it has been said that Template is a copy from output
18:11 mtompset Template
18:11 tcohen (the missing ones)
18:11 wahanui Storable is yellow and Graphics::Magick
18:11 mtompset Storable
18:11 tcohen to make it output just the library names
18:11 mtompset POSIX
18:11 mtompset Test
18:11 tcohen would be of help
18:10 tcohen thinking of useful scripts, adding a switch -B (fr batch) to koha_perl_deps.pl
18:10 mtompset JSON
18:10 mtompset GD
18:10 mtompset DBI
18:10 mtompset and whatever future mess that comes along.
18:09 tcohen it misses YAM Land CGI
18:09 mtompset YAML
18:09 mtompset CGI
18:09 mtompset That won't work
18:09 mtompset I told you.
18:09 tcohen for k in $(for i in $(./koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u | grep '::' | cut -d" " -f1 | perl -pi -e 's/::/-/g' | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]') ; do echo lib$i-perl ; done); do apt-cache search $k ; done
18:09 Morthland I CPANed it and had no problems
18:09 mtompset It was for my own personal use. :)
18:09 Morthland I figured it did, so I was a bit confused
18:09 tcohen mtompset, are you planning to add a new script?
18:08 mtompset But that dpesn't make sense, since the web installed probably uses the same module.
18:08 mtompset Worthy of a bug report.
18:08 mtompset that would be a failure to update PerlDependencies.pm
18:07 Morthland and the web installer still listed one.
18:07 Morthland and got to where I wasn't missing any dependencies,
18:07 Morthland I used that,
18:06 mtompset a bash script that uses ./koha_perl_deps.pl to see if the libraries exist or not.
18:06 jcamins That's how upgrades work.
18:06 jcamins Yup.
18:06 Morthland I wasn't sure whether Koha would be happy with that.
18:06 Morthland Good to know.
18:05 jcamins Morthland: for future reference, the best way to transfer a database between systems is to dump the entire database, and load it on the new system.
18:05 tcohen mtompset: what are you exactly working on?
18:05 jcamins Odd.
18:04 Morthland and we only have 1550 items.
18:04 Morthland my index daemon said it indexed 3400 entries,
18:04 Morthland allthough,
18:04 Morthland looks likek that works
18:04 * mtompset grins, "Sounds like it isn't any more."
18:03 tcohen and using set-selections tries to destroy it
18:03 tcohen i have a virgin 12.04 install
18:03 jcamins tcohen: I suspect it's appended, but I don't know.
18:02 tcohen does it overwrite the selections? is it appended?
18:02 jcamins Yeah, those look familiar.
18:02 tcohen what is the set-selections semantics?
18:02 mtompset Text::CSV::Encoded NOT FOUND!
18:02 mtompset PDF::API2::Simple NOT FOUND!
18:02 mtompset Memoize::Memcached NOT FOUND!
18:02 mtompset Locale::Currency::Format NOT FOUND!
18:02 mtompset HTTP::OAI NOT FOUND!
18:02 mtompset CGI::Session::Driver::memcached NOT FOUND!
18:01 mtompset BTW... you were right, jcamins. Half-dozen... I was tweaking my script.
18:01 jcamins fredericd++
17:59 tcohen otherwise something must be very wrong
17:58 tcohen I think i'm messing up with selections
17:58 jcamins Heh. Probably not.
17:58 mtompset -- which begs the question, should it be? it's there by default.
17:57 mtompset I thought 'apt' was in the install package list.
17:57 mtompset That's weird.
17:57 mtompset WHAT?!
17:55 tcohen it *should* work
17:55 tcohen not at all!
17:55 jcamins That's not good.
17:55 jcamins !!!
17:55 tcohen not sure WHY thou
17:55 tcohen apt ubuntu-keyring (due to apt) libapt-pkg4.12 (due to apt) libstdc++6 ...
17:55 tcohen This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
17:55 tcohen WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed.
17:54 jcamins But I guess set-selections is preferred for Ubuntu?
17:54 tcohen i'm trying to document the install procedure for precise on a amd64 box and it doesn't lookreliable
17:54 jcamins More self-explanatory.
17:54 jcamins I much preferred a script.
17:54 jcamins tcohen: to be honest, I do not.
17:53 tcohen do u #koha think --set-selections is a good method for setting the install of dependencies?
17:52 jcamins martian523: then, yes, the solution would seem to be upgrading. I guess that was a bug in 3.8.1 that was fixed in 3.8.2.
17:52 martian523 i'm running 3.08.01.000
17:52 oleonard SVR: http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=3
17:51 jcamins I imagine if you searched google for something like "koha change opac logo" you'd find a couple of blog posts.
17:50 jcamins SVR: if you look through the blog, there is lots of information about customizing the OPAC.
17:50 SVR i tried but no found correct result. tell me the script for simple log attaching to opac
17:49 jcamins Or whatever that command is.
17:49 jcamins koha-zebra-index --full
17:49 Morthland how do I do that?
17:49 jcamins You'll have to reindex from scratch.
17:48 Morthland but that isn't fixing the issue
17:48 Morthland i'm running the index-daemon
17:47 jcamins Even with rebuild_zebra running in cron.
17:47 jcamins Yeah, you'll need to reindex.
17:47 Morthland everything is still showing up.
17:46 Morthland haven't set up automatic indexing on the new server yet.
17:45 Morthland let me see what I got.
17:44 Morthland done.
17:44 * jcamins hopes no one tries copying that line, ever.
17:44 jcamins With a semicolon at the end.
17:43 jcamins Right.
17:43 Morthland *delete from biblio?
17:43 Morthland delete from biblio"?
17:43 jcamins No, I mean after the colon, but remove the word "everything".
17:42 Morthland the whole string, you mean "less "everything": delete from everything biblio"
17:42 * jcamins had sudden images of someone copying and pasting having gotten confused.
17:41 jcamins Run this command, less "everything": delete from everything biblio
17:41 Morthland ?
17:41 Morthland what should I do/
17:41 jcamins No need.
17:41 jcamins Oh, I must have gotten it backwards.
17:41 Morthland I might just drop all the tables and start from scratch.
17:41 Morthland cannot truncate table referenced in a foreign key constraint
17:39 jcamins What did it say?
17:39 Morthland wont let me truncate
17:39 Morthland no luck
17:37 jcamins But I don't think you have a choice.
17:37 jcamins I don't like using delete either.
17:37 jcamins I don't like using truncate.
17:37 Morthland ok
17:37 jcamins Yeah, truncate the table.
17:37 Morthland truncate?
17:36 oleonard SVR: Specifically, http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=3
17:35 jcamins martian523: what version are you running?
17:35 jcamins Also, in the manual you will find information about the OPAC sysprefs.
17:35 jcamins SVR: ^^ that's a good blog to look at.
17:34 wahanui oleonard's blog is http://www.myacpl.org/koha
17:34 jcamins oleonard's blog?
17:34 jcamins Morthland: truncate biblio *should* work.
17:34 SVR pls HOW TO CUSTOMIZE OPAC? Add our own logo *.gif file on desktop
17:30 martian523 so we have to upgrade?
17:30 Morthland how can I delete all the biblios+items?
17:29 jcamins Upgrading to 3.8.2 from 3.8.1 fixed it.
17:29 jcamins Ah, there was an e-mail about this problem.
17:28 * jcamins is advising based on hearsay.
17:28 martian523 i don't see it
17:28 jcamins A button with a plus sign?
17:28 martian523 + button?
17:27 jcamins Full disclosure: I am offering advice on a module I avoid using.
17:25 jcamins martian523: I think there's a + button that you click.
17:25 martian523 is that something that needs to be fixed?
17:24 martian523 another question, it seems like when i was trying to add quantity to my order basket, it wouldn't allow me until i delete "read only" in the html codes
17:23 Morthland Right.
17:23 jcamins You could try an overlay.
17:23 jcamins Well...
17:23 jcamins Yes.
17:23 Morthland That was a mistake
17:23 Morthland I clicked clean.
17:22 jcamins Morthland: if you used stage MARC import, you just go click "Revert import." If you used bulkmarcimport, the best option is probably just to delete the records.
17:21 mtompset YAML
17:21 mtompset CGI
17:21 Morthland is it just an option?
17:21 mtompset not quit.
17:21 Morthland how do I revert import?
17:20 jcamins martian523: not to my knowledge.
17:20 jcamins Revert the import, and reimport, this time making sure to set the framework the way you want.
17:20 martian523 is there anyway to add shipping costs?
17:20 melia dang it
17:20 jcamins Or, rather, you *should* select a framework.
17:20 sekjal melia: 8418 no longer applies
17:20 martian523 hi, i have a questions about adding shipping costs to acquisitions
17:20 jcamins You select a framework when importing records.
17:20 jcamins I know why it's set to the wrong framework.
17:19 jcamins Wait...
17:19 tcohen mtompset: for k in $(for i in $(./koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u | grep '::' | cut -d" " -f1 | perl -pi -e 's/::/-/g' | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]') ; do echo lib$i-perl ; done); do apt-cache search $k ; done
17:19 jcamins And by "almost always" I mean I cannot think of any counterexample.
17:19 jcamins Manually editing via the database almost always ends in disaster.
17:19 jcamins I don't think so.
17:19 Morthland is BIBLIO the correct table?
17:18 Morthland I already have this transfered, as well as my patrons. Seems simpler just to manually edit from here.
17:18 jcamins That way you will keep all your existing frameworks.
17:18 jcamins Is there any reason you can't do a mysqldump and transfer the entire database?
17:17 wahanui 3.8 is going to be great :)
17:17 jcamins Morthland: 3.8?
17:16 wahanui 12.968
17:16 Morthland 3.6 to 2.8
17:16 jcamins What version?
17:16 jcamins Unless you deleted the default framework.
17:15 jcamins And if you didn't, everything should have showed up as "default" on the new.
17:15 jcamins Morthland: what you describe shouldn't happen if you had the same frameworks in the old database and the new one.
17:15 jcamins mtompset: yeah, that's what I'm wondering about.
17:13 Morthland hmm?
17:12 mtompset Is the default framework wrong, or something?
17:12 jcamins Ah.
17:10 Morthland stage records for import
17:10 Morthland Export bibliographics/holdings
17:09 jcamins How did you backup and restore your database?
17:09 Morthland They were all books/booklets
17:08 Morthland no.
17:08 jcamins Did you delete the default framework?
17:08 jcamins Okay.
17:08 Morthland my keyword-to marc mapping is messed up
17:07 Morthland instead of books
17:07 jcamins (why do you need to set it back)
17:07 Morthland They are all set to audio-cassetes
17:07 jcamins Why?
17:07 Morthland I need to set it back
17:07 Morthland it changed the framework
17:07 Morthland I imported my entire database from a backup
17:07 Morthland yes.
17:07 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
17:07 jcamins Morthland: the first question?
17:06 Morthland Should I pursue doing this through MYSQL?
17:06 jcamins I want to run it on Debian *for* Ubuntu.
17:06 jcamins To generate ubuntu.packages at release time.
17:06 mtompset No. I suppose it could run under Debian, but Debian has the packages. Why would you need it? :)
17:05 jcamins mtompset: does your script have to be run on Ubuntu?
17:05 jcamins Morthland: I think possibly there will be in 3.10.
17:05 jcamins Cool. :)
17:04 Morthland Is there a way to batch edit biblios?
17:04 mtompset Memoize::Memcached ~ NOT FOUND!
17:04 mtompset Locale::Currency::Format ~ NOT FOUND!
17:04 mtompset HTTP::OAI ~ NOT FOUND!
17:04 melia oh yay! thank you sekjal!!
17:03 mtompset Well, then PerlDependencies has changed. :)
17:03 jcamins When I installed 3.6.1 on 10.04, there were a half dozen that had to be installed manually.
17:03 mtompset Yep.
17:03 jcamins There were only three not found under 10.04?
17:02 sekjal melia: I'll try to take a look in the next hour or so
17:01 mtompset those libraries exist in 12.04
17:01 mtompset and for 3.6.6 there were only 3 libraries not found under 10.04
17:01 mtompset based on ./koha_perl_dep
17:00 mtompset My script that I just wrote does a mass grep. :)
17:00 jcamins Right.
17:00 mtompset I'm assuming the only reason the ubuntu.packages needs updating is because the file PerlDependencies is what is frequently updated, and not ubuntu.packages.
16:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8418 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Koha::Calendar is_holiday ignores all user data
16:58 melia are there any QA team people around at the moment? I desperately want critical Bug 8418 to get some QA so that it might get into the 3.8.3 release (if it's not too late already)
16:58 jcamins Jumping the queue a bit, but I'd like it to work on Ubuntu.
16:57 jcamins mtompset: and the package script fix may go into it.
16:56 mtompset 3.6.7 is going to be a dream to install on Ubuntu 12.04 -- no cpan requirements. :)
16:51 drojf wizzyrea++
16:51 Morthland And now it will not display the subtitle on OPAC
16:51 Morthland I recently updated koha to 3.8
16:48 wahanui somebody said C4 was a high explosive :-) or "Cheap & Cheerful Copy of (the ILS program HLT used to use)"
16:48 wizzyrea C4?
16:48 wahanui okay, wizzyrea.
16:48 wizzyrea C4 is also "Cheap & Cheerful Copy of (the ILS program HLT used to use)"
16:48 wahanui C4 is a high explosive :-)
16:48 wizzyrea C4?
16:48 wahanui it has been said that c4 is a high explosive :-)
16:48 wizzyrea c4?
16:48 wizzyrea C4 is "Cheap & Cheerful Copy of (the ILS program HLT used to use)"
16:47 wizzyrea if you want to know the story - http://blip.tv/the-curious-and-wondering-eye/kohacon10-video-1-rosalie-blake-4367524
16:46 wizzyrea she won't say the name of the old one
16:45 wizzyrea rosalie says C4 stands for "Cheap & Cheerful Copy of (the ILS program HLT used to use)"
16:35 mtompset to help me find the missing pieces/
16:34 mtompset I was tinkering with a script. :)
16:34 mtompset I was thinking of doing that.
16:34 mtompset okay, great to hear.
16:34 jcamins mtompset: tcohen just filed a bug and is working on a patch to update ubuntu.packages.
16:32 jcamins drojf: that's how I always think of it. ;)
16:32 * mtompset laughs.
16:32 wizzyrea that is the *other* meaning
16:32 drojf oh, i thought it was related to exploding when touched :D
16:32 wizzyrea the last c is the name of HLT's old ILS
16:32 wizzyrea it's cheap, cheerful … something
16:32 jcamins We'd keep it except it's such a mess it's hopeless.
16:32 jcamins No idea what it stands for, but it exists because that used to be the namespace.
16:32 wizzyrea oh I know this
16:31 mtompset So, the install_misc/ubuntu.packages should be the same, unless it has been patched with missing items? ;)
16:31 drojf what is C4 anyway? what does it stand for and why is it not all Koha::?
16:31 drojf heh
16:31 jcamins drojf: actually, I can't think of any.
16:30 jcamins Don't think so.
16:30 drojf jcamins: what would be a reason not to put something in Koha::?
16:30 jcamins Hm.
16:30 mtompset (more perl libraries)
16:30 mtompset have the dependencies changed between 3.6.6 and 3.6.7?
16:29 jcamins That second "won't" is a general rule.
16:29 jcamins (no reason to expect it won't, I won't push anything that makes problems with the release process, and I haven't found any problems with the proposed 3.6.7)
16:28 jcamins mtompset: yes, if all goes well.
16:28 mtompset So out of curiousity, will 3.6.7 be out early next week?
16:28 jcamins I see no reason not to put it in Koha::
16:26 drojf ah right
16:25 jcamins For sysprefs.
16:24 drojf not sure what C4:Context does right now
16:24 drojf i got use C4::Context; use MARC::Record; use MARC::Field;
16:23 jcamins What does it depend on?
16:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, 5p4m, Failed QA , Show HTML5 video/ audio in OPAC for media files in 856
16:22 drojf ok i got a seperate module now for bug 8377 (not attached to the bug yet), called HTML5Media.pm. It takes $template and $record and returns $template with template parameters based on field 856. this enhancement is for opac, but it should be possible to use the module for the staff client too. my question is: where is the module supposed to go? i have it in Koha/HTML5Media.pm now, is that ok or should it be somewhere else, eg. C4?
15:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8162 critical, P3, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , packaging scripts create user incorrectly
15:53 mtompset bug 8162
15:52 mtompset I don't see how to disable it, but I can change it to be a koha-community URL :)
15:49 jcamins (yes, I was joking about using one that's well-tested... you can probably just disable that "feature")
15:48 jcamins :P
15:48 jcamins Decades of testing!
15:48 jcamins I use irssi.
15:48 eythian see you all later
15:48 eythian I also have to go
15:48 eythian I like xchat
15:48 jcamins Use one that's well-tested.
15:47 mtompset silly people, tell me to get an IRC client, and then find a bug with the one I choose. :P
15:47 jcamins It's just text.
15:47 eythian most definitely
15:47 jcamins "bug 8162" isn't a link.
15:47 eythian yes
15:47 eythian ah
15:47 eythian yep, that's what it looks like to me too
15:47 mtompset Are you suggesting my chatzilla is getting in the way?
15:46 jcamins mtompset: error with your IRC client.
15:46 eythian no it didn't
15:46 huginn 04Bug 8162: critical, P3, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , packaging scripts create user incorrectly
15:46 eythian <huginn> Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8162 critical, P3, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , packaging scripts create user incorrectly
15:46 eythian <eythian_> Ubuntu package installation fix for anyone keen on looking in to that kind of thing on bug 8162
15:46 mtompset Same problem with jcamins.
15:46 mtompset Your link that you put in the chat was a mozilla bug link... huggin's followed up correctly.
15:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8162 critical, P3, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , packaging scripts create user incorrectly
15:45 jcamins Bug 8162
15:45 mtompset why did the link go to mozilla's bugzilla rather than koha's?!
15:45 eythian I don't know what you mean
15:44 mtompset Hmmm... 8162 doesn't match what you were talking about eythian \
15:37 jcamins paul_p: first I have to create the file. ;)
15:37 jcamins paul_p: right.
15:37 paul_p jcamins = just don't forget to add a FIXME to Koha::Data::AuthType.pm ;-)
15:37 paul_p tcohen++
15:37 jcamins tcohen++
15:36 jcamins Good idea!
15:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Passed QA , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin
15:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7420 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , Add max fines to circulation matrix
15:36 jcamins Yea!
15:36 * paul_p finally understand why bug 7420 does not work for him, it's because of bug 8251 :\\
15:36 tcohen i'm planning to add instructions for adding debian.k-c to sources.list in the .tar.gz install instructions
15:36 jcamins :D
15:36 jcamins paul_p: yeah, but yours is a lot less shim-y.
15:36 paul_p jcamins = we have 2 options here = mine is a kind of shim, yours is another one isn't it ?
15:35 jcamins tcohen: if we can, yes.
15:35 jcamins tcohen: all the ones required by Koha that will compile.
15:35 tcohen i mean, we add a perl dependancy, not packaged for debian, will we package it?
15:35 paul_p OK, then I understand the french word now !
15:35 tcohen jcamins: is there a pre-defined policy on what packages to add to debian.k-c.org ?
15:35 jcamins paul_p: a "shim" is a piece of code you put in so that the program will work without needing a complete rewrite.
15:35 paul_p jcamins = ggl translate says "cale", which doesn't help me at all :D
15:34 paul_p (chimère in french ?)
15:34 paul_p jcamins = I'm not sure I know what "shim" means ;-)
15:34 jcamins tcohen: nope.
15:33 tcohen Data::Paginator and Data::Pagination are the same thing?
15:33 jcamins Thanks.
15:33 jcamins Okay, so it sounds like you're saying you don't need for a shim, and the code might as well go where it belongs right away.
15:32 paul_p jcamins = I think we can move so basic & trivial subs, without using DBIx::Class,
15:32 jcamins paul_p: but we can't move anything to Koha::Data until we have the entire model, right?
15:31 paul_p (and singular, the default automatic behaviour of DBIx::Class)
15:30 paul_p this one should go to Koha::Data::AuthType (if we consider removing the _ and UCasing the names)
15:30 paul_p GetAuthType does select * from auth_types where authtypecode=?"
15:30 jcamins GetAuthTypeCode is easy to replace. It goes in Koha::Data::Authority.
15:29 jcamins Yeah, GetAuthType is the problematic one.
15:29 paul_p jcamins GetAuthTypeCode does = my $sth = $dbh->prepare("select authtypecode from auth_header where authid=?");
15:29 jcamins I think GetAuthType.
15:29 jcamins One of those is a simple SQL lookup.
15:29 paul_p C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm:sub GetAuthType {
15:29 paul_p jcamins = we have, currently: C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm:sub GetAuthTypeCode {
15:29 jcamins Basically all the routine does is look up something in the database.
15:28 jcamins So we need to have an alternative to GetAuthType/GetAuthorityType (whichever it's called), or we'll have duplicate code in C4:: and Koha::
15:28 jcamins But we use GetAuthType or GetAuthorityType in places we shouldn't in C4.
15:27 jcamins You are right, the right way to do it would be to have Koha::[View::]Authority->authtype.
15:27 jcamins I am asking where to put a shim.
15:27 jcamins The silly routine that we shouldn't need but use all over.
15:27 * paul_p not sure to understand well the question...
15:27 paul_p if it's a replace, it should not be called "Get" ?
15:27 jcamins (or maybe GetAuthType... I'm not at my computer right now)
15:26 jcamins It would replace the current GetAuthorityType.
15:26 paul_p jcamins what would do GetAuthorityTypeFromAuthTypeCode ?
15:26 jcamins I don't care what the module is called.
15:26 jcamins It's fine to change the name.
15:25 paul_p (I think i'm against Koha::Authority as is. Koha::View::Authority sounds better to me)
15:25 jcamins Eventually that should go away because all the authority view code should be centralized in object-oriented Koha::Authority, but we can't rewrite all of C4 just like that.
15:24 jcamins s/use //
15:24 jcamins Then it occurred to me... would it be better to just use have Koha::Authority::GetAuthorityTypeFromAuthTypeCode?
15:23 jcamins So I've been stumped on this for a while.
15:23 jcamins I have an object-oriented Koha::Authority module for the View layer, but $authority->authority_type would get the authority type for that particular authority, rather than (as is needed) a lookup based on authtypecode.
15:22 paul_p Koha::BusinessLogic::Authority.pm ? (s/BusinessLogic/Service/ if I move to the last koha-devel proposition)
15:21 jcamins paul_p: I've been thinking about where to put for example GetAuthorityType in Koha::
15:21 paul_p__ jcamins sure
15:21 jcamins paul_p__: do you have a moment to share an opinion?
15:20 drojf :)
15:20 jcamins drojf: I've done that a lot.
15:19 drojf jcamins++ # error gone, thanks
15:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8162 critical, P3, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , packaging scripts create user incorrectly
15:17 eythian_ Ubuntu package installation fix for anyone keen on looking in to that kind of thing on bug 8162
15:15 libsysguy well i feel retarded
15:14 libsysguy doh
15:14 jcamins libsysguy: it's because you use @ at the beginning of a sentence.
15:13 libsysguy from huginn
15:13 libsysguy no the one before
15:13 jcamins Marc Chantreux.
15:12 libsysguy heh who sent that
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15:12 huginn libsysguy: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
15:12 libsysguy @_ ftw
15:11 libsysguy ^^
15:11 jcamins drojf: don't forget if you're using OOP, the first argument is always $self.
15:00 mtompset eythian, I realized apt-file is a necessary evil, and simplified my script a WHOLE bunch. "apt-file list perl" dumps all perl related files. Then just grep the dump.
14:42 gaetan_B bye !
14:40 eythian (almost certainly are, otherwise you wouldn't have that error)
14:40 eythian but they may be getting different values in $template
14:39 drojf ok. but it works exactly like this if the subroutine is directly in opac-detail.pl
14:38 eythian so possibly it's a different object.
14:38 eythian template is getting a value in a different way
14:38 eythian <drojf> my $template = shift;
14:38 eythian <drojf> and in Koha/HTML5Media.pm i do
14:38 eythian <drojf> $template = Koha::HTML5Media->gethtml5media($template,$record,@HTML5Media_sets,@HTML5Media_fields);
14:38 eythian <drojf> in opac-detail.pl i do
14:37 drojf what do you mean by "is different"?
14:33 eythian that's possibly the key bit
14:33 eythian is different
14:33 eythian err
14:33 eythian right, so my $template = shift; is shift
14:32 drojf don't know if that came though, should have used paste
14:32 drojf *flood*
14:32 drojf return $template;
14:32 drojf HTML5MediaWidth => $HTML5MediaWidth);
14:32 drojf HTML5MediaParent => $HTML5MediaParent,
14:32 drojf HTML5MediaSets => \@HTML5Media_sets,
14:32 drojf HTML5MediaEnabled => 1,
14:32 drojf $template::param(
14:32 drojf [ a lot of ]
14:32 drojf my @HTML5Media_fields = shift;
14:32 drojf my @HTML5Media_sets = shift;
14:32 drojf my $record = shift;
14:32 drojf my $template = shift;
14:32 drojf and in Koha/HTML5Media.pm i do
14:32 drojf $template = Koha::HTML5Media->gethtml5media($template,$record,@HTML5Media_sets,@HTML5Media_fields);
14:32 drojf in opac-detail.pl i do
14:29 mtompset eythian's suggestions are better. :)
14:28 mtompset and you have the appropriate use?
14:28 eythian so in the new place, what does $template get assigned?
14:28 drojf like it was in the other file
14:28 drojf $template->param(
14:28 drojf hm. the line is
14:27 eythian i.e. with a -> rather than a :: perhaps
14:27 eythian or it's being called wrong
14:26 eythian presumably the object you're trying to access is a different type in the new place
14:26 mtompset Yes, and what dependencies does it have?
14:26 drojf it just does not work in the extra module
14:26 drojf mtompset: i copied that directly from a subroutine inside of opac-detail.pl that works
14:25 mtompset are you sure you didn't type params in one place, and param in another?
14:25 mtompset I had typos in my objects. :)
14:24 eythian_ and what is containing in the variable that is trying to have param accessed on it
14:24 eythian_ drojf: you'll have to see what hte line that's causing the error is
14:24 mtompset <path1>:<path2>:...:<path_n>
14:23 mtompset check your PERL5LIB.
14:23 drojf mtompset: no, just added a module (HTML5Media.pm) in a random folder (i used Koha, how is defined where to put it? doesn't work in c4 either) and tried to use it. i circumvented the problem for now, passing the field info to the module in the subroutine call instead of getting the field info directly in the subroutine. but now i got "Can't locate object method "param" via package "Koha::HTML5Media" at /home/pi/koha/Koha/HTML5Media.pm line 245." when i t
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14:11 sekjal hi, oleonard
14:10 oleonard Hi sekjal
13:57 mtompset Did you copy the C4 directory elsewhere and it expect it to work?
13:56 mtompset check your PERL5LIB?
13:56 mtompset Library paths are a pain. :)
13:55 mtompset That error sounds like the fun I was having when I was playing around with Perl OO.
13:55 mtompset drojf, are you still here?
13:55 mtompset Greetings.
13:55 tcohen hi #koha
13:11 drojf1 it works in a subroutine in opac-detail.pl, but when i try to put it in an extra module it doesn#t
13:11 drojf1 why do i get 'Can't locate object method "field" via package "C4::Templates" at /home/pi/koha/Koha/HTML5Media.pm line 74.' when i am pretty sure that field is supposed to come from MARC::Field and not C4::Templates ?
13:03 drojf1 oleonard: i don't know. since i work in an audio-visual library i hope we will actually use it one day. but i did it mostly to learn and for fun
13:01 oleonard drojf1: Cool enhancement by the way. I wonder how common it is to have media files in the 856?
13:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, 5p4m, Failed QA , Show HTML5 video/ audio in OPAC for media files in 856
13:00 drojf1 ok good to know, i won't have another syspref in my followup for bug 8377 then :D
12:58 oleonard Wow, trying to QA a bug with two sequential updatedatabase patches is really annoying.
12:54 drojf1 ok, very funny, perl. is that needed 1; at the end of a module some kind of developer initiation ritual?
12:25 oleonard So how hot is it in Croatia dpavlin?
11:21 oleonard Hi #koha
11:17 * mveron ...waits for better connection...
11:16 mveron Thanks, drojf.
11:13 drojf but it's just a guess
11:13 drojf mveron_: i assume only ascii for the category code
11:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7621 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories
11:13 mveron_ Oh, I see that Bug 7621 needs to be signed-off again...
11:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7628 normal, P3, ---, veron, Signed Off , Required format is not enforced for Patron Categories
11:11 mveron_ What are legal characters for Patron category codes? Discussion about in bug 7628
11:11 * mveron_ was disconnected...
11:10 drojf uh sounds weird. so your dsl flies away? :)
11:07 mveron Last day in Greece, hot but windy. Very bad internet DSL connection because overhead phone wires swing in the wind :-(
11:06 mveron Hi drojf!
11:06 drojf still in greece! nice
11:06 drojf hi mveron
11:04 mveron Hi #koha
10:43 mtompset Still has the problem of multiple matches.
10:42 mtompset I'll see about apt-file.
10:41 mtompset eythian++
10:41 mtompset true enough...
10:41 eythian it can be installed on Ubuntu
10:41 eythian if you're in a position to create lists of packages, you're in a position to install that
10:41 mtompset And I'm using Ubuntu. :P
10:41 mtompset Yes, but that isn't installed by default.
10:40 eythian debian/list-deps has a method that works well and is always correct
10:40 mtompset apt-file...
10:40 eythian (and, I think, badly)
10:40 eythian you're reinventing the wheel
10:40 mtompset if there is more than one match, I suspect it is the shortest one.
10:40 mtompset because if there is only one match, I know the lib name. :)
10:39 mtompset yes, but that's where the aptitude search -F "%p" comes in.
10:39 eythian but, then you end up with something that isn't a package name
10:39 mtompset then there's no problem.
10:39 eythian yes
10:38 mtompset if there is no ::, then $_ stays the same, does it not?
10:38 eythian s/change/method/
10:38 eythian but most importantly is that change won't work for all modules
10:37 mtompset My brain must be half awake.
10:37 mtompset I could have <'d.
10:37 mtompset DOH!
10:37 eythian arguably easier to read however.
10:36 eythian tr ... < $TMPFILE1 > $TMPFILE2
10:36 eythian it's shorter without cat
10:36 mtompset I don't like long lines. :P
10:36 eythian e) useless use of 'cat' ;)
10:35 eythian d) have a look in debian/list-deps for how to do it using apt-file
10:35 mtompset cat $TMPFILE1 | tr [:upper:] [:lower:] > $TMPFILE2
10:35 eythian c) case issues
10:34 eythian a) you're missing the lib prefix, b) it's not a given that a package will be of the form libmodule-name-perl
10:34 mtompset Is there a case it will break?
10:34 mtompset Seems to run just fine.
10:34 mtompset why not?
10:33 eythian that won't work.
10:33 mtompset cat $TMPFILE2 | perl -e '@data=<STDIN>; foreach (@data) { s/\:\:/\-/g; s/ //g; chomp $_; print "$_\-perl\n"; }' > $TMPFILE1
10:33 mtompset The worst I did today was:
10:32 eythian this was going to go in a script where I needed that value
10:32 eythian yes
10:32 mtompset but why not just look at the file? Or is this an automated process?
10:30 eythian I know how to use them, but they are the best way of processing text, as that's what they're for.
10:30 mtompset Are you a regular expression junkie?
10:29 eythian mtompset: turns out that, while it works, I don't want to be doing that after all.
10:29 mtompset That is some seriously ugly and beautiful code, eythian.
10:27 gaetan_B with the removal of items information from the marc data, items are gone from MARCdetail.pl (in the staff client) but still show up in opac-MARCdetail.pl (which is more convenient) is it a bug ? or is it intended ?
10:15 techno hi all
09:20 eythian My sin for the day: perl -e '$conf = do { local $/ = <> } ; ($clientpart) = $conf =~ m/\[client\]\n(.*?)(?:\n\[|$)/s ; @hostline = grep { /^host\W/ } split("\n", $clientpart) ; ($hostname) = $hostline[0] =~ m/^.*?=\s*(.*)$/ ; print $hostname."\n" ;' /tmp/koha-common.cnf
08:50 eythian BugZilla, yeah
08:49 mtompset bz was bug, right?
08:45 eythian gaetan_B, julian_m: bz8376 signed off with notes
08:22 mtompset Ah.
08:22 Brooke I only get that powah for meetings
08:22 Brooke I'm not an admin
08:22 mtompset Hmm... Brooke, you could change the topic to reflect the next meeting's date and time. :)
08:19 Brooke but I'm not sure if she's meant to
08:19 Brooke I know that she _can_
08:19 Brooke perhaps @later wizzyrea to change that?
08:19 * Brooke scratches her head to think of who maintains that...
08:18 mtompset I was just noticing that download.koha-community.org points to 3.6.5 as the current maintenance release, but 3.6.6 is out. I hope this gets fixed when 3.6.7 comes out. :)
08:17 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
07:56 Brooke o/
07:37 * mtompset waves.
07:36 * mtompset goes off to try to install another VM.
07:33 mtompset Someone really loves almonds and nuts.
07:26 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
07:26 cait rangi?
07:26 cait heya :)
07:26 francharb hi cait
07:26 francharb hi mtompset !;)
07:26 cait greetings to you too
07:25 wahanui francharb falls asleep easily at sea. Don't believe me? Just ask Brooke.
07:25 mtompset francharb?
07:25 mtompset I wanted to see what would be said, sorry. Greetings to you. :)
07:25 cait yes?
07:25 cait lol
07:24 wahanui That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :) or a librarian, you will get wahanui's information or a hero or signing off on wahanui's patch :)
07:24 mtompset cait?
07:21 cait hi francharb
07:21 francharb good morning all
07:19 cait :)
07:19 wahanui i already had it that way, Oak.
07:19 Oak oh look cait is here
07:19 * cait waves
07:15 mtompset I was hoping it would say something is a big mystery. ;)
07:15 wahanui yes, mtompset?
07:15 mtompset wahanui?
07:15 wahanui mtompset?
07:15 mtompset wahanui?
07:15 wahanui yes, mtompset?
07:15 mtompset wahanui?
07:15 wahanui yes, mtompset?
07:15 mtompset wahanui?
07:14 julian_m mtompset, wahanui is a big mistery for me :)
07:12 eythian hello
07:12 mtompset How does wahanui know you greet you in something other than English, julian_m
07:04 matts hi !
06:55 wahanui privet, julian_m
06:55 julian_m hello
06:53 mtompset Greetings, gaetan_B
06:52 gaetan_B hello
04:41 libsysguy ill see *some of you* tomorrow
04:40 libsysguy and that means it bed time for me
04:40 rangi but now, its beer oclock
04:40 * libsysguy needs that for rest
04:40 rangi http://search.cpan.org/~kasei/Class-Accessor-0.34/lib/Class/Accessor.pm#EFFICIENCY
04:39 rangi and its Fast
04:39 * mtompset nods, "Very handy"
04:39 rangi makes all your setters and getters for you
04:39 mtompset Yes, following best practice is cool.
04:39 libsysguy that is awesome
04:39 libsysguy 0.0
04:39 * mtompset grins.
04:39 rangi __PACKAGE__->follow_best_practice
04:38 rangi this is the bit i like the best
04:38 libsysguy so I have to write logins the old way :-/
04:38 libsysguy I can't even get it to compile from cpan
04:38 libsysguy I was just working on catalyst and apparently catalystx doesn't work on debian
04:38 rangi http://search.cpan.org/~kasei/Class-Accessor-0.34/lib/Class/Accessor.pm
04:38 libsysguy well that is fancy
04:37 rangi so no need to install anything
04:37 libsysguy hmm
04:37 rangi and its perl core
04:37 mtompset It does look nice.
04:37 libsysguy mistake
04:37 rangi as a low overhead object class
04:37 libsysguy i wrote a very small indexing engine once in object oriented perl
04:37 rangi i still like class::accessor
04:37 rangi :)
04:37 libsysguy well…object oriented perl not paradigm
04:36 mtompset Nice pure perl, no extra classes. :)
04:36 libsysguy OOP can kill am man mtompset
04:36 mtompset If you didn't scroll back in the IRC logs, I got my perl object working. I was so tired, I missed several typos. :)
04:35 mtompset rangi++
04:35 rangi fair enough
04:35 mtompset it is failing, but I don't like error logs building up. :)
04:34 mtompset thank you.
04:32 rangi goneski
04:31 rangi it shouldl be failing because of no password but yes ill remove it for you
04:30 mtompset I added a robots.txt, but I'd like to not have the staff client show up in Google at all.
04:29 mtompset http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-05-31#i_982072
04:29 mtompset I think Google picked up the URL and now is trying to index our site, which is the staff client.
04:28 mtompset Hmmm... Is there a way to get a URL removed from historical #koha logs?
03:54 mtompset Sweet... it does the difference between 'you' and 'libsysguy'.
03:53 wahanui libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
03:53 mtompset libsysguy?
03:28 libsysguy ohh wahanui got an update?
03:28 wahanui you are Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
03:28 libsysguy libsysguy?
02:59 mtompset Ah, okay. italicized means super idle. I'm still figuring out ChatZilla.
02:44 libsysguy i hate it when you find a package in debian only to eventually see its in sid
02:43 * mtj sips a beer...
02:23 mtompset thanks.
02:23 mtompset mtj++
02:22 mtj mtompset: -> http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=README.robots
02:22 libsysguy my favorite comic
02:22 libsysguy mtompset++
02:22 mtompset It is. :)
02:22 libsysguy and it is
02:22 * libsysguy crosses fingers for balmers peak comic
02:21 mtompset http://xkcd.com/323/ -- like this, libsysguy
02:20 libsysguy well koha development does
02:20 mtompset I found it funny that it is on a kohaaloha domain... almost suggests that koha goes with beer. ;)
02:20 mtj mwahahahahaaa... beer
02:18 libsysguy see…mtj is a cruel person
02:18 * mtompset laughs, "I just looked at the site. No wonder libsysguy wants a beer. soba-winter-ale-festival combined with the budweiser 'wuzzap' = beer craving."
02:17 libsysguy heh true story
02:16 mtompset Aren't all developers? ;)
02:14 * libsysguy is a paranoid kind of guy
02:14 libsysguy im a little afraid of why I haven't gotten any replies to the devel list
02:14 libsysguy this is just kind of my idea of getting the ball rolling
02:14 mtj dancer looked 'just right' for what i wanted
02:14 libsysguy there is lots of stuff out there
02:14 mtj libsysguy: mojo looked clever and snazzy, but too much learning curve for what i wanted....
02:13 libsysguy why is it so needy all the time
02:13 libsysguy ack forgot to export cpan to always say yes
02:13 mtompset And you too, Oak
02:13 Oak Hello mtompset :) good to see you!
02:12 mtompset Sorry for the slow reply, but greetings Oak
02:12 * mtompset grins.
02:12 mtompset By the way, does koha have any robots.txt to prevent indexing by web-spiders
02:12 libsysguy dang it mtj now I want a beer
02:11 libsysguy druthb seems to like it as well
02:11 mtj -> soba.kohaaloha.com
02:11 mtj ive only used dancer so-far (for a toy-app) , but had a very pleasant experience
02:10 mtompset http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tauYnVE6ykU (because of the way you guys greeted me and each other) :)
02:10 libsysguy we all know how much software can change in 3 years :p
02:10 libsysguy but that was about 3 years ago
02:10 libsysguy I used it at a previous job
02:09 libsysguy oops - one ?
02:09 mtj i dont have enuff experience with catalyst to say disagree
02:09 mtompset Actually, a couple late replies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz8yg9MYf8Q (ballerina girl due to 'dancer')
02:09 libsysguy do you prefer mojo or dancer over catalyst??
02:09 mtj libsysguy: yeah, i thought that was the most likely reason
02:09 mtompset Thanks, libsysguy
02:08 Oak :)
02:08 libsysguy ello Oak
02:08 libsysguy mtompset: i like the way you think :p
02:07 libsysguy dancer is lighter but it doesn't have quite the backing that catalyst does
02:07 Oak Ahoy me hearties
02:07 mtompset I was thinking ... why not pure perl, because the hard way is more fun. :P
02:07 libsysguy ugh mtj you and druthb with dancer
02:07 mtj i *was* thinking hmm, why not dancer or mojo?
02:06 mtj heh, nah... :p
02:06 libsysguy actually I was just looking at it
02:06 mtompset No, no pouncing.
02:06 libsysguy am I about to get pounced
02:06 mtompset Have you revised the authentication module already? :)
02:06 libsysguy uh oh
02:06 mtj yeah, me too :)
02:06 libsysguy heh
02:06 mtj sup libz mtompz
02:06 mtompset I noticed your post about the Catalyst framework.
02:05 mtompset Greetings, libsysguy.
02:05 libsysguy sup mtompset
02:05 mtompset Greetings, mtj
02:05 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
02:05 mtj mle or slef?
02:04 mtj random Q, anyone know where a koha or kohacon12 vector file is?
00:21 libsysguy o/