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03:17 * mtj pushed some koha-qa-tools -> https://github.com/KohaAloha/koha-qa-tools
03:18 rangi sweet
03:18 * dcook finally figured out why the waitingreserves screen was clearing after cancelling a hold with multiple holds on it
03:18 mtj i've included the missed xt/author/vaild-template.t test , too
03:18 * dcook does a little dance to celebrate
03:19 rangi sweet
03:34 dcook Quick question...
03:34 rangi green
03:34 rangi (quick answer)
03:34 dcook To fix the aforementioned problem, there is just a quick little FOREACH to throw into the template
03:34 dcook :P
03:34 rangi yep
03:34 dcook However, I also want to fix some of the styling and wording. Should I include them as a single patch or separate ones?
03:34 dcook The FOREACH fix is needed
03:35 dcook The styling and wording is just preferable
03:35 rangi if you think it might be contentious, separate, if you think it wouldnt be, the same is fine
03:35 dcook Hmm, I thought that might be the case
03:35 dcook Merci :)
03:36 rangi basically that just means that the style changes won't hold up the bugfix part
03:36 dcook Yeah, that was my main concern
03:37 dcook Perhaps still best as one. Easy to change if people have issue with it
04:15 schnydszch good day koha community, i'm still stuck/at lost with items imported through stage marc import not showing in the OPAC
04:16 schnydszch bug 8393 and 8394
04:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8393 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , No physical item for this record for stage marc imported records with items
04:16 schnydszch yeah i filed that..
04:19 Amit_Gupta heya cait
04:19 Amit_Gupta good morning ;)
04:20 schnydszch good morning amit, good noon here from the Philippines :)
04:55 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @normnz: "Very nice, a visit from two of summer's @CatalystAcademy students, wanting to do some more open source. Looks like #kohails will benefit"
06:06 mib_nzkb83 Hi,
06:09 arungit I have set up patron enrollment period for one year... Now period was expired ... still patron account is not restricted for renewal kindly help me in this regard
06:11 alex_a bonjour
06:38 reiveune hello
06:54 julian_m hello
06:57 gaetan_B hi!
06:59 francharb good morning #koha
07:04 matts hi !
07:06 kf good morning #koha
07:21 kf guten morgen asaurat und sophie_m
07:22 asaurat hallo!
07:23 sophie_m Guten Morgen kf :-)
07:27 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @27point7: "quite weird to read "This feature is not active yet but will be released soon" in a syspref... #kohails"
07:27 alex_a kf: hello
07:28 alex_a kf: Can you tell what is the problem you found for the bug 8381 ?
07:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8381 blocker, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , Paging broken in OPAC search results
07:28 alex_a tell me*
07:39 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @ranginui: "@27point7 ahh found it it's http://t.co/pVvevb85 which set up a lot of new permissions for lists #kohails"
07:40 rangi alex_a: the problem she found was that it wasnt working for signed in users, so kf did a patch for that
07:40 rangi which now needs a sign off
07:41 * rangi hopes that makes sense
07:44 alex_a rangi: ok
07:44 alex_a thx
07:45 eythian good morning, #koha
07:45 rangi hi eythian
07:48 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @ranginui: "highlight of my day, a high school and uni student popping in to @CatalystNZ to ask if they can do some more work on #kohails"
07:50 gaetan_B hi eythian ! how is marseille ?
07:51 eythian hiya gaetan_B. It's nice and warm, especially compared to the UK :)
07:53 gaetan_B eythian: it should ;) hope the birds and mosquitoes will let you sleep though !
07:53 eythian I got a bit eaten last night.
07:54 eythian the seagulls are nothing compared to Brighton though, they're tiny (i.e. normal size) here.
08:16 marcelr morning #koha
08:16 gaetan_B eythian: there's a mosquito repelent plug somewhere in the room which could save your life ;)
08:17 eythian gaetan_B: I got up at 2am and plugged it in, it seemed to help :)
08:17 gaetan_B ah yes :)
08:17 eythian The previous night was not a mosquito night, so I didn't realise it'd be a necessary thing.
08:18 * marcelr stumbled over cannot access `/usr/share/kohadev/newclone/var/spool' while installing. Seems to be bug 8268. Anyone resolved it already?
08:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8268 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should offer way to backup entire db
08:19 eythian It sounds very plausible that it's that bug.
08:19 eythian It might be easy enough to resolve by changing the chmod to have an exists test first, or something.
08:20 marcelr if you can find it somewhere in the make install run
08:24 eythian I know very little on how the makefile works
08:24 eythian though I see /skel/var/spool/koha referenced in there, maybe something needs to create it first?
08:29 marcelr yes i saw it too, and also the trimdir parameter -1; that goes to matchlevel and deeper and deeper
08:47 paul_p_ good morning #koha
08:47 marcelr hi paul_p
09:00 Amit_Gupta heya paul_p
09:00 paul_p hi Amit_Gupta & marcelr
09:01 kf morning all :)
09:01 kf koha++
09:01 marcelr hi kf
09:01 kf for importing and exporting data so nice and easy it just makes one smile
09:01 kf hi marcelr :)
09:01 * paul_p has switched to "summer mode" I think = most academic libraries closed, public libraries dealing with daily task, not project. That makes a lot of available time !
09:02 kf paul_p: not sure we will see that switch here, but it would be nice :)
09:05 kf and gaetan_B++ and asaurat++ again because I start liking the icons :)
09:05 asaurat hehe ;)
09:05 gaetan_B kf: :) yeah !
09:05 kf I got a new 3.8.x installation for my presentation on wednesday - so nice and shiny
09:07 kf eythian: 16 now
09:12 eythian kf: cool
09:12 dcook Yay for more 3.8.x :D
09:37 kf alex_a: you approve? :)
09:39 alex_a kf: yes !!
09:39 alex_a :)
10:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5644' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=39701b866676845e86cec0e1d5ca40a6b159288a> / Bug 5644 : Fixing the test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2598964b104a2ea91b999db53b2cb90fdc86a74a> / Bug 8351: Update wording on staged marc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4306c508d088d60274c031563
10:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #785 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 11 days ago)
11:21 jcamins_away marcelr: I'm testing the installation to see if I can identify the problem with the /var/spool
11:21 francharb hi jcamins_away
11:22 francharb jcamins, do you know if we can display analytics on the opac?
11:22 jcamins francharb: what do you mean?
11:22 kf jcamins: there are different ways to do analytics
11:22 kf and they display differently, but they display
11:22 francharb jcamins, the easy analytic
11:23 jcamins francharb: the 773 will show up.
11:23 francharb jcamins, it's marc21 right?
11:23 francharb kf, nope
11:23 francharb if you use the easy analytics
11:23 francharb feture
11:24 francharb featur
11:24 francharb e
11:24 kf heh
11:24 kf feature? :)
11:24 jcamins francharb: I don't know if the UNIMARC displays show the 561.
11:24 marcelr paul_p: could you look at the followup for bug 8268
11:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8268 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Koha should offer way to backup entire db
11:24 jcamins marcelr: oh, you have a follow-up?
11:24 kf francharb: sorry then - you are right, UNIMARC might be different
11:24 kf or is different
11:24 marcelr jcamins: yes, problem fixed
11:24 marcelr small thing
11:24 jcamins marcelr: I have one too.
11:24 marcelr of course
11:24 jcamins :)
11:24 francharb kf, jcamins and the unimarc 461 will be display for the analytic record
11:24 francharb but on the host record
11:25 francharb on the opac side
11:25 jcamins francharb: ah, no, there will not be any difference on the host record.
11:25 francharb there is nothing to find back the analytics linked to the items right?
11:25 jcamins That is correct.
11:25 francharb :(
11:25 francharb I needed it
11:25 kf :(
11:25 francharb ;)
11:26 jcamins Well- in MARC21 there are links in the XSLT, but I don't think there are for UNIMARC.
11:26 kf you could probably do something like we do in marc21 - stupid links
11:26 kf every serial has a link "show analytics"
11:26 francharb jcamins, kf, except that I liked the idea of having just a link next to the item
11:26 paul_p marcelr = 8268 is on my list
11:26 francharb like on the easyanalytic tab
11:27 francharb kf, on the biblio level or on the item level?
11:27 marcelr paul_p: it is a tiny fix that resolves critical error during install
11:27 francharb because, the library I'm working with can have more than 100 items linked to 1 record and each items are linked to more than 10 analytic records...
11:28 kf francharb: the links live on biblio level - we can't use the easyanalytics feature, so I don't know much about it. We overwrite records with union catalog records regularly, so libraries can't change things on bilbiographic level safely
11:28 francharb ok kf
11:29 francharb if the item $9 was display, I could do something with javascript...
11:29 francharb well, I will find a way
11:29 francharb maybe with the ISBD display
11:29 francharb thank you jcamins, kf
11:29 francharb :)
11:29 kf that's the right spirit :)
11:30 jcamins francharb: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library#Add_a_link_to_map_the_publisher.27s_location
11:31 francharb jcamins, can I kiss you?
11:31 francharb ;)
11:31 francharb It's perfect!
11:32 jcamins francharb: glad I could help. :)
11:32 francharb thank you
11:32 francharb I need to make it work now but I've got everything
11:32 francharb :)
11:32 kf that doesn't look right: of the the last:
11:33 jcamins Of the last what?
11:33 kf opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-topissues.tt:123
11:33 kf that' I can't tell you.... feel the pain of translators
11:35 jcamins Hm, no, that's correct.
11:35 kf of the the ?
11:35 * kf translates Shari Perkins :)
11:36 jcamins kf: :D
11:36 jcamins kf: "Limit to (Books) of the: (last 3 months)"
11:37 kf hm
11:37 kf that looks wrong
11:37 kf no second the
11:38 jcamins kf: "Limit to (Books) of the last: (3 months)", rather
11:38 jcamins There's no need for another the.
11:38 kf well, there is one
11:38 jcamins Oh, that's wrong.
11:38 jcamins :)
11:39 kf that's what I said ;)
11:39 jcamins My eyes skipped over the second the.
11:39 kf ah :)
11:40 kf Your library home ?
11:41 jcamins home library.
11:41 kf hm yeah
11:41 kf drojf: morning :)
11:42 eythian http://edenbrackstone.com/2012/07/the-epic-journey-south/ <-- what Queenstown (in Southern NZ) was looking like last night.
11:42 drojf hi #koha :)
11:42 eythian http://www.stuckincustoms.com/2012/07/16/the-solar-storm-hits-queenstown/ <-- also
11:42 drojf hey kf
11:43 jcamins Wow.
11:43 kf wow
11:47 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @B_U_LA_C: "@blds_library Welcome to the #kohails community users!"
11:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #785: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/785/
11:55 jenkins_koha * matted-34813: Bug 8375 - Patch for Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
11:55 jenkins_koha * chrish: bug 8322 removing additional spaces before fullstop on catalogue/detail and opac-detail pages.
11:55 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8351: Update wording on staged marc
11:55 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 5644 : Fixing the test
11:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Pushed to Master , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
11:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8322 minor, P5 - low, ---, chrish, Pushed to Master , Removing space between end of marc data and fullstops
11:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8351 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , fix wording when undoing an import
11:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5644 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , dropbox mode doesn't set the correct date
13:10 tcohen hi #koha, back from winter holidays here
13:10 tcohen ibadan++
13:15 jcamins tcohen: how is testing 3.8 going?
13:15 tcohen hi jcamins
13:16 tcohen we're going production this week
13:16 tcohen our users are really glad
13:16 tcohen happy
13:16 kf :)
13:17 jcamins tcohen: you got all the kinks ironed out?
13:17 jcamins That's excellent!
13:25 tcohen jcamins
13:25 tcohen we've decided to maintain our install schema
13:25 tcohen using an internal SVN repo for the deployment
13:25 tcohen so we go 3.8
13:25 kf svn?
13:25 tcohen and then, evaluate moving towards the .deb approach
13:26 jcamins Makes sense... one big change at a time, eh?
13:26 tcohen yeap
13:26 tcohen SVN is what was used here for everything when I arrived
13:26 tcohen we're moving to redmine+git everything
13:26 kf ah :)
13:39 tweetbot` [off] Twitter: @blds_library: "@b_u_la_c Thank you! #kohails"
13:46 * wizzyrea waves
13:47 * jcamins waves back.
13:57 * kf waves too
13:58 jcamins wizzyrea: useful factoid: green papaya makes for *amazing* curries.
13:58 wizzyrea oh wow, yea that sounds awesome
14:07 jcamins Another useful fact about green papaya is that it apparently does not ripen into non-green papaya.
14:15 * oleonard misses the exotic fresh fruit he ate in Thailand
14:17 * wizzyrea misses the delightful yellow butter and orange yolked eggs from New Zealand (still!)
14:17 * kf nods
14:17 wizzyrea and their coffee.
14:17 * jcamins misses the delicious fresh herbs from Morocco.
14:17 catgmc Hey can someone help me out?? I'm trying to set up Pidgin, rather than going through the IRC widget on the Koha Community page. I think I have a setting wrong, though. Pidgin says irc.oftc.net isn't a channel.
14:18 kf paul_p_: around? perhaps you can help me find some theological libraries? :)
14:18 jcamins catgmc: irc.oftc.net is the host.
14:18 jcamins The channel is #koha
14:18 jcamins :)
14:18 catgmc hmmm... let me try that... :)
14:23 catgmc when I go to "join a chat" it only gives me a prompt for "channel". If I enter #koha, I get this message: "The Koha Community's official IRC channel is located @ irc.oftc.net #koha, so if you cannot find help here, feel free to post your question there as well." which implies I am not in the official koha chat. THere are 4 members of that chat, currently.
14:24 wizzyrea I think you must be connected to freenode
14:24 jcamins Agreed.
14:24 catgmc yes
14:24 catgmc no bueno?
14:24 eythian_ kf: paul_p_ is in a meeting
14:24 wizzyrea no, you need to be connected to irc.oftc.net
14:24 jcamins Nope. However, the good news is it should be easy to fix.
14:24 catgmc how do I do that?
14:24 wizzyrea ^^
14:24 jcamins eythian: are you visiting BibLibre?
14:24 kf eythian: thx
14:24 eythian catgmc: you are using the wrong chat thing
14:25 eythian you need IRC
14:25 kf so... anyone... theological libraries?
14:25 eythian you are most likely attempting to join a jabber chat, or MSN group chat
14:25 jcamins I haven't used Pidgin in years, but if you go to accounts, probably there's somewhere to set an IRC account up?
14:25 catgmc does Pidgin do IRC?
14:25 jcamins eythian: ohhhh.
14:25 wizzyrea umm, piidgin does do IRC
14:25 eythian you'll have to tell pidgin to create an IRC connection as a new account.
14:25 jcamins catgmc: yes it does.
14:25 kf pidgin does
14:25 kf I am using it
14:25 eythian it does, but I don't think you're telling it to do so in this case,
14:25 eythian otherwise it'd ask you for a host/server
14:25 kf you create a new account first, and add the chat room/channel as a buddy later
14:25 wizzyrea or s/he is telling it to connect to freenode
14:25 catgmc makes sense
14:26 catgmc ah.
14:26 wizzyrea that is the message you get when you connect to #koha on freenode
14:26 wizzyrea or on irc.katipo
14:26 eythian oh good point
14:26 eythian I missed that
14:26 catgmc so I have to create an account first? where?
14:26 wizzyrea :)
14:27 kf under accounts (I have the German version :( )
14:27 kf sending a screenshot
14:27 eythian ctrl-A
14:27 eythian and go 'add'
14:27 catgmc in Pidgin?
14:27 eythian yeah
14:27 kf [off] http://opac.bsz-bw.de/koha_temp/pidgin.png
14:28 kf where kf is what you want to be
14:28 kf that's all
14:28 kf and then save it
14:28 eythian catgmc: with the buddy list higlighted in particular
14:29 kf catgmc: yes, you need the window with the buddy list, not your chat window - there second menu
14:29 kf and after creating the account for irc, you can go to buddys > add chat and add the koha channel
14:31 catgmc OK, did that. But I don't think I have an IRC account set up, somehow. "Join a chat" is greyed out.
14:32 eythian that dialogue that kf sent you is how you create the account.
14:32 catgmc k. let me back up...
14:35 kf you can have multiple accounts - no need to back up really
14:35 kf just add a new
14:36 wizzyrea maybe this will help
14:36 wizzyrea http://eclug.homelinux.org/content/view/192/59/
14:36 catgmc error msg: "unable to connect: error resolving irc.oftc.net:6667: 11004"
14:37 jcamins All you entered in was "irc.oftc.net:6667" right?
14:37 wizzyrea I think in server you do not put the port
14:37 jcamins Wait, you should only need to enter irc.oftc.net
14:37 wizzyrea in pidgin
14:37 wizzyrea so just server: irc.oftc.net
14:40 catgmc1 Yay! Got it... Thanks for the help!
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15:25 francharb jcamins, hi again
15:25 francharb I noticed something weird with the easy analytical feature
15:25 francharb Is it you who developed it?
15:25 jcamins francharb: nope.
15:25 francharb :(
15:25 francharb I going to look at the bugzilla then
15:26 francharb because, at the opac
15:26 jcamins I cleaned up the code when OSS Labs abandoned it right before the 3.4 release.
15:26 francharb oki
15:26 francharb did you noticed that
15:26 francharb on the opac side
15:27 francharb you had a "virtual" item for the normal view but not for the marc and the ISBD view?
15:27 francharb on the staff client
15:27 francharb it makes sense
15:27 francharb because
15:27 jcamins Ooh. No I did not.
15:27 francharb you have a link to the host record
15:27 francharb but you dont have it on the opac
15:27 jcamins Wait... do we display items in the MARC and ISBD views?
15:28 francharb yep
15:28 kf hmmm
15:28 francharb in the marc view
15:28 francharb for sure
15:28 jcamins Hm. That's a bug, then.
15:28 kf yeah in the marc view
15:28 francharb on the ISBD view
15:28 kf but I think that is pulled from the fields
15:28 francharb you can set it up to dispal items
15:28 kf in the marc, done differently than on the normal view
15:28 francharb kf is right
15:28 kf and it's not in the marc
15:28 francharb kf, true!
15:29 kf hm so maybe doable, but you would have to pull in lots of stuff - would be my guess
15:29 francharb anyway, if I go from one view to another, it's weird having "no items available" for the marc view and 1 for the normal view
15:29 francharb kf, on the opac side
15:30 francharb I don"t understand why we can find the marc viex
15:30 francharb view
15:30 francharb is utterly not userfriendly
15:30 francharb ;)
15:30 francharb anyway
15:30 francharb ok
15:31 francharb you are as much surprised as I am
15:31 francharb so I'm not totally dumb
15:31 francharb and I just need to open up a bugzilla ticket
15:31 francharb :)
15:49 reiveune bye
15:49 jcamins eythian: cool!
15:49 eythian quite.
15:49 jcamins Sorry for the exceedingly delayed reaction.
15:50 eythian it suited my delayed answer :)
15:51 jcamins Oh, wow, your answer was quite delayed, wasn't it?
15:53 eythian Yeah, just a little :)
15:56 kf and I only get 3 weeks ;)
15:57 eythian it's cos you're more expensive :)
15:57 kf hmpf
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16:10 nengard isn't there a bug report about the grace period not working in fines?
16:10 nengard if so anyone know the number? my searches are not finding it
16:11 jcamins Bug 4906?
16:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , Problem with grace period calculation and fine intervals >1
16:11 jcamins Bug 8243?
16:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8243 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, calendar being ignored
16:11 nengard bug 8418
16:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8418 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Koha::Calendar is_holiday ignores all user data
16:11 nengard i think ?
16:11 jcamins Could be.
16:26 oleonard Anyone else get "nonresponsive script" errors from Firefox because of the OPAC's highlight-word script?
16:26 jcamins oleonard: yup.
16:27 oleonard Okay, glad it's not just me. There's a fork of that plugin that looks more recent, and I'm trying to test.
16:27 kf oleonard: do you have opacsearchhistory turned on?
16:27 oleonard Yes
16:27 kf try turning it off
16:28 kf I had similar problems, each search taking forever
16:28 kf and there is a patch for that, if that's the problem you have
16:28 kf turning the searchhistory off would fix it if it's the same
16:28 oleonard The trouble is I don't always get the error, so it'd be hard to tell
16:29 gaetan_B bye !
16:29 wizzyrea nengard i think the report on grace period was not a separate bug
16:29 wizzyrea but a comment on one of the other holiday related bugs.
16:31 kf oh
16:31 kf oleonard: maybe different problem then :( for me it was constantly broken
16:32 oleonard One problem I see with the highlight script is that it's always being passed the full "query_desc" string, which includes the "kw,wrdl:" stuff
16:33 oleonard So I'm sure the script spends time looking for that junk
16:33 oleonard I wonder how hard it would be to create a new variable which only included search strings and not other search parameters
16:37 * oleonard though that's what Bug 6985 was going to do, but never really paid attention until now
16:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6985 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Stable , Hide "kw,wrdl:" from Search Results
16:40 kf oleonard: I think the {QUERY_KW} does it too
16:41 oleonard What do you mean?
16:47 kf sorry
16:47 kf it's a feature to show the search terms on the null results page
16:47 kf so you can construct a link to another source
16:48 kf and it only uses the search terms - so I thought that might have something you were looking for
16:50 kf oleonard: it's somewhere in bugzilla
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16:57 oleonard kf: Interesting that the patch (Bug 7620) just tries to clean up the existing query_desc string rather than build a clean version
16:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7620 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, Failed QA , OPACNoResult, add search string to available parameters
16:57 kf hm not a good example then probably
16:58 oleonard I guess if the alternative is a trip into Search.pm...
17:29 mbalmer euvening!
17:31 francharb_afk euvening mbalmer !
17:31 francharb ;)
19:31 rangi Morning
19:31 mbalmer in your timezone, maybe ;)
19:31 jcamins Morning.
19:31 wahanui morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
19:32 jcamins Brooke++
19:33 oleonard Eh?
19:45 cait evening #koha
19:50 rangi Hey cait
19:50 cait hi rangi
19:50 jcamins Welcome back.
20:04 rangi My stop bb after coffee
20:17 rangi back
20:20 libsysguy is there a way in the staff client to move people from deleted borrowers to borrowers?
20:20 cait no, but there should be one :)
20:20 libsysguy agreed
20:20 cait and wb rangi
20:20 libsysguy a giant undo button on every page
20:20 cait and same for items and records
20:20 cait perhaps not giant and hidden behind a permission... but yeah
20:20 libsysguy agreed
20:21 libsysguy heh
20:21 libsysguy perhaps you should be required to type something demeaning to get it to work
20:21 libsysguy like "i acknowledge that I screwed up and must now pray to the koha gods/developers to fix my mistake"
20:21 jcamins "only a plonker would have deleted this record earlier"? :P
20:32 wizzyrea "plonker"
20:32 wizzyrea that is is made of win.
20:32 jcamins BOFH FTW!
20:32 wizzyrea but yes, undo delete would be super handy
20:33 wizzyrea both for items and borrowers.
20:33 wizzyrea and bibs.
20:33 ibeardslee and databases?
20:33 wahanui databases are not automated.
20:33 wizzyrea even if we didn't store the whole of the record, maybe only a skeleton record (name, cardnumber)
20:34 jcamins wizzyrea: we do store the whole record.
20:34 * wizzyrea was thinking punitively "you delete this record, as a tax on being wishy washy, you have to re-enter the info"
20:34 jcamins lol
20:35 wizzyrea users hate that stuff though, best to just restore the whole thing ;)
20:35 jcamins Agreed.
20:35 libsysguy :p
20:35 jcamins Plus, why add complexity?
20:35 wizzyrea :)
20:35 wizzyrea since we already keep all the stuffs it makes sense to restore all of the stuffs :P
20:36 cait yeah
20:36 cait but also a tool to really really delete them would be good
20:36 jcamins cait: not so sure I agree about that.
20:36 cait because you can't keep them in there forever... especially if a patron asks that all his date is deleted
20:36 jcamins Oh, patrons, yes.
20:36 jcamins I thought you meant bibs.
20:36 cait no
20:36 cait bibs we should keep forever
20:37 cait accession books
20:37 jcamins It shouldn't be possible to *entirely* erase a bib.
20:37 cait nope
20:37 cait because you need the history
20:37 jcamins It *should* be possible to entirely erase a patron.
20:37 cait but there should be a nice way to indicate why you deleted them
20:37 jcamins That would be excellent.
20:37 cait hm you can always dedicate a field to that... maybe I should define one
20:37 cait but... hm.
20:37 cait needs more thought. but yeah.
20:37 * jcamins is so glad that libsysguy is doing this.
20:37 cait yeah me too :)
20:38 cait hooray for libsysguy ;)
20:38 libsysguy whoa whoa
20:38 libsysguy I got committed to a testing system
20:38 libsysguy when did I get undo too :p
20:39 wizzyrea libsysguy: just use paul's sandboxen
20:39 wizzyrea and be done with it. then you can do undelete.
20:39 libsysguy heh
20:41 rangi how long til votes close?
20:41 jcamins rangi: 36 hours-ish?
20:41 jcamins Ehhh... 40?
20:41 jcamins nengard is up early, but not that early!
20:41 rangi heh :)
20:41 rangi cool
20:41 jcamins I think.
20:41 rangi she confirms
20:42 cait she said when she wakes up on the 18th she will close
20:42 rangi *nod*
20:42 rangi just chatting with her too
20:42 jcamins Ibadan way ahead?
20:42 rangi hmm not anymore
20:42 cait oh?
20:48 drojf wow. where did the 80 new voters come from today?
20:49 jcamins drojf: I have no idea.
20:50 drojf from the us, obviously
20:50 jcamins drojf: ah, well, yeah, I got that far in my reasoning. ;)
20:50 drojf :)
20:51 jcamins drojf: did my pqf query work on your server?
20:51 drojf yes it did. sorry, had to run off yesterday
20:51 jcamins It did?
20:51 jcamins Well, huh.
20:51 jcamins That's odd.
20:51 jcamins Well, I have made my diagnosis:
20:51 jcamins C4::Search--
20:51 jcamins C4::Search--
20:51 jcamins C4::Search--
20:51 jcamins C4::Search--
20:51 jcamins C4::Search--
20:53 jcamins Unfortunately, I am kind of stymied as to what the problem could be.
20:55 drojf i have not tried to put the data in a 3.6 installation, but i guess that would bring some db structure problems anyway. bus as long as i dont know why it happened i will live in fear of that happening the day after we go live
20:55 cait I think blaming C4::Search-- is a good guess
20:55 drojf :D
20:55 cait is this the installation with your customizations to search?
20:56 jcamins Wait, you customized the search?
20:56 drojf it was, but i also replaced all files i edited with those from the tar.gz of 3.8.2
20:56 drojf and it is the same in a fresh 3.8.2
20:57 jcamins Hm.
20:57 jcamins What changes did you make?
20:57 jcamins They shouldn't have affected the database, but I suppose it's possible.
20:57 drojf added some indexes. and that worked without any problems
20:58 jcamins Okay, shouldn't make any problem.
21:01 cait drojf: did you set Search.pm back?
21:02 drojf yes
21:02 cait hm
21:02 cait maybe some new files you are missing?
21:02 * cait is guessing wildly
21:03 drojf there was actually a depencency missing, i found out when i created another library. htmltotext or something like that. but it was not related
21:13 rangi http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/public-sector/3348475/munich-mayor-says-switch-to-linux-is-much-cheaper-and-has-reduced-complaints/
21:17 wizzyrea eff ya
21:19 drojf "christian socialist union"? rofl. i don't think that translation is appropriate
21:20 * jcamins appreciates the thread in the comments about the People's Front of Judaea.
21:22 drojf whoch one of the 20 external domains i did not allow makes the comments? i don't see any
21:22 drojf *which
21:22 jcamins drojf: no idea. I closed the window a while ago.
21:37 francharb wtf
21:38 francharb I can't tweet
21:38 francharb is twitter ui messed up
21:38 francharb or maybe I am
21:38 francharb to late to really know...
21:38 francharb I will tweet here
21:38 francharb Crazy in love (beyonce cover) / Antony and the Johnsons http://youtu.be/n8V94WQjMAw
21:38 francharb good song
21:38 francharb and good evening
21:38 francharb ;
21:38 francharb ;)
21:39 francharb cait, I maybe found out what it's going to be my first koha contribution
21:39 francharb when it's done, I will let you know
21:39 francharb ;)
21:40 francharb sooner or later, I'm going to make it happen! ;)
21:40 francharb see ya all
21:41 jcamins francharb: you should tell us now so we can offer advice if you need it. :)
21:41 jcamins And so no one else does it at the same time.
21:41 jcamins ;)
21:41 francharb_afk jcamins, don't worry
21:42 francharb_afk since i'm not a developper, it's going to be some kind of small fixes
21:42 francharb_afk jcamins, I guess it's going to be on what we talked about earlier today
21:42 jcamins francharb_afk: ah. Don't worry, probably no one will be working on that. :)
21:42 francharb_afk :)
21:43 francharb_afk like displaying on the normal view the correct link to unimarc host record
21:43 francharb_afk really?
21:43 francharb_afk I'm the only one interested?
21:43 francharb_afk ;)
21:44 jcamins No, I'm interested, but I have a very long to-do list already...
21:44 francharb_afk \0/
21:44 francharb_afk welcome
21:45 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0TYun-Nq1Q
21:45 rangi for all the librarians
21:50 jcamins Hehe.
21:52 cait now he is gone
21:52 cait and I am curious :(
21:52 cait oh
21:53 cait link
21:53 cait scrolling broken again :)
22:31 rangi hi LBA
22:46 rangi http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-17/the-aurora-australis-covers-the-sky/4135056
22:46 rangi the sky is pretty cool in this part of the world at the moment
23:07 libsysguy wow that is pretty cool